[CTRL] Why an Amnesty Bill Would Pass
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16787-2002Mar12.html Because they, the INS / Gov't, doesn't know what the F*** they're / it's doing. To have this bunch of incompetents try to round up 9 million people when they can't even screen for two of the most famous dead men in American history, that would be like having drug addicts on the narco squad or sex addicts on the vice squad or bureaucrats in the gov't. They're addicted to the politics and the bennies. AER }}}Begin Terrorist Pilots' Student Visas Arrive Officials Blame 'Antiquated' System for Delay of Paperwork By Dan Eggen and Mary Beth Sheridan Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, March 13, 2002; Page A01 Exactly six months after terrorists Mohamed Atta and Marwan Alshehhi flew two jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Florida flight school that trained the men received paperwork showing that their student visas had been approved. The two suicide hijackers had applied for the visas through their flight school, Huffman Aviation International, in August 2000. But because of backlogs and an antiquated processing system at the Immigration and Naturalization Service, notification of the approval did not arrive at the Venice, Fla., flight school until Monday. The belated receipt of the documents underscores the chronic problems that continue to plague the beleaguered INS -- the target of strenuous reform efforts since the Sept. 11 attacks -- and prompted howls of outrage yesterday from Capitol Hill. This shows once again the complete incompetence of the immigration service to enforce our laws and protect our borders, said U.S. Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.), who has co-sponsored legislation to break up the agency. If you look at the chronology of this, it shows why the INS has to be dismantled and put back together again. INS and Justice Department officials acknowledged yesterday that the delayed mailings were embarrassing, but stressed that the change to student visas for Atta and Alshehhi was actually approved last summer. The pair had entered the United States on tourist visas. In addition, the INS said in a statement, when the applications were approved, the INS had no information indicating that Atta or Alshehhi had ties to terrorist organizations. The records received by Huffman, first reported by CNN, show that Atta's visa was approved on July 17 and Alshehhi's was approved Aug. 9. The visa approvals came well after the two would-be hijackers had completed their training course at Huffman, which cost $27,300 each and ended in January 2001. That means it took the INS nearly a year to process the visa applications after they were submitted by a Huffman official in August 2000, and seven months more to return the forms to the flight school. The schools are not required to deny instruction to foreign nationals once the application has been filed, officials said. Huffman owner Rudi Dekkers said he feels vindicated by receipt of the forms, because they prove his school followed INS guidelines. It's very strange, Dekkers said. I have no idea why it took so long. INS officials said in a statement last night that the agency regrets the late arrival of notifications to the school, and blamed the delay on an antiquated, inaccurate, untimely and inefficient paper-based processing system. The INS is switching over to a computer- based system, which was first mandated by Congress as part of an immigration reform package in 1996. How can these guys get training before they're approved to get training? That's a legitimate issue, one senior Justice official said. But it's important to note that these guys were approved long before anyone in law enforcement knew they had ties to terrorist groups. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), head of a congressional caucus that seeks reduced immigration, said the agency is completely and totally dysfunctional. The INS is the Mickey Mouse Club of federal agencies, but this actually would indicate that's an insult to Mickey Mouse, Tancredo said. I do not know what straw is possibly going to be the one that will break this back. The pile is so high now you can't see over it. A spokeswoman for ACS Inc., the contractor that runs the London, Ky., processing center that mailed the paperwork to Huffman, said that INS rules allow the company to wait six months before sending approved student visa applications to flight schools. There was no delay, said Lesley Pool. We perform our services according to their dictates. INS and Justice officials said last night that the company's latest contract, announced last fall, reduces the deadline to 30 days, officials said. Ben Ferro, a former INS district administrator who now runs a consulting firm, said the Atta and Alshehhi cases reflect how the immigration service has lost control of its own documents. What happened here is an embarrassment and worse, Ferro said. Clearly INS doesn't discriminate in its backlogs and
[CTRL] German press turns anti-American
-Caveat Lector- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Germany German press turns anti-American Editorial of Gleichheit, published by the Socialist Equality Party of Germany By Peter Schwarz 13 March 2002 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author The March/April edition of the German magazine Gleichheit, reproducing important articles from the World Socialist Web Site, is soon to be published. The new edition will take as its theme Europe and America. It contains several contributions analysing the significance of the war in Afghanistan, as well as a detailed article by Peter Schwarz concerning the growing tensions between Europe and America. The following is the editorial of the forthcoming edition. Over the last few weeks a significant change of opinion can be discerned within influential circles in Germany. The traditional feeling of attachment to the US, characterised by a general harmoniousness since the end of the Second World War, has soured into a sceptical and even hostile attitude. In particular, publications normally regarded as belonging to the liberal or social-democratic spectrum Frankfurter Rundschau, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Der Spiegel, Die Zeit have taken on an increasingly anti-American tone which is also finding an echo in government circles. When Chancellor Gerhard Schröder pledged the Bush government unqualified solidarity in the war against terrorism after September 11, his statement was received with hardly any criticism. But since then it has become clear that the US government is not prepared to coordinate its political and military moves with its allies. Commenting on the general state of disillusionment, the magazine Der Spiegel asserts: The calculation by Europeans that the zealously promised unqualified solidarity would strengthen its ability to influence its big brother has proven to be an illusion. And Die Zeit suggests: The Europeans have deceived themselves. George W. Bush has not changed from Saul to Paul. The Afghan campaign rapidly developed into the triumphal display of unilateralism. According to Der Spiegel, what is predominating in governmental circles recently is the view that pure power politics rather than the fight against terrorism lies behind American moves in the Middle East. In the latest edition of Die Zeit, Theo Sommer states that Europe should react to Americas arrogance of power with self-confidence, calm and determination. He believes that the European Union should resist Americas unreasonable demand to reduce world politics to the military component and instead strive for patient diplomacy, multilateral solutions and the strengthening of the United Nationsin other words, it must forge its own alliance against the US. Sommer stresses that in no way should Europeans allow themselves to become Americas global deputy sheriff. Germanys federal government is also heading for confrontation with the US. During a cabinet meeting, Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer, until recently firmly committed to the transatlantic partnership, gave warning of a day when Europeans will have to make it clear that the Americans are no longer pursuing our kind of politics. Behind this swing in opinion lies the realisation that the geopolitical interests of Europe and America cannot be reconciled permanently. The further the US extends its military operations in Central Asia and the Middle East, the weaker appears the official justification that it is fighting a war against terrorism. The stationing of American troops in an increasing number of former states of the Soviet Union, together with threats of war against Iraq and Iran, reveal that the US government is striving to dominate strategically important regions and sources of raw materials, which are also vital to the European economy. In its latest issue, Spiegel magazine quoted an unnamed European foreign minister, saying he certainly did not want to insinuate that [the US government] was planning a permanent occupation of oilfields in the whole regionbut in order to protect themselves, there will eventually be no other course open to the Americans and this will have unforeseeable consequences for the Middle East region and world peace as a whole. While American and European troops in Afghanistan fight side by side, contradictions and tensions between the respective ministries and state departments are sharpening. Under these circumstances, criticism of aggressive American foreign policy also serves to mobilise support for the equally aggressive aims of German and European foreign policy. In order to pursue this objective, a deliberately anti-American tone is being assumed. Disapproval of American policy is also being voiced by right-wing politicians like Friedrich Merz, chairman of the CDU (conservative Christian Democratic Union) parliamentary faction, who normally regards any criticism of US governmental policy as sacrilegious. But
[CTRL] Stupid White Men
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.rense.com/general21/sw.htm }}}Begin Rense.com San Diego Police Raid Booksigning For 'Stupid White Men' From Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3-11-2 Dear Friends, It's a few minutes before midnight, on Friday night on 3/8/2002. I'm in San Diego, and I have just escaped being arrested by the San Diego police. This book tour keeps getting more surreal, but the last hour has been unlike anything I have yet seen. I have come to San Diego to speak at an event organized for my book (Stupid White Men). The event is being held at a middle school in an auditorium that seats about 800 people. I have spent the week in California, pretty much at my own expense. Weeks ago, the publisher informed me that they would not be sending me to this state if they had to pay to get me there. So I called up my friends at Politically Incorrect and asked if they could book me on the show and bring me out there. They were more than happy to help out. I can't believe the crap this show has had to endure because its host one night, early on in America's NEW War had the guts to state the truth as he saw it. Now advertisers have dropped like flies, affiliates in DC, Columbus, and other cities have canceled the program, and ABC seems eager to deep-six the whole hour it shares with Nightline. But, for now, they have come to my aid, and I am grateful. In the past six days, I have spoken to 15 separate mobs of people. I don't know what other word to use because, quite simply, wherever I go, there is this unbelievable pandemonium. Every day, every night, hundreds -- or thousands -- jam themselves into halls, arenas, churches, auditoriums to listen to me talk about my book and whatever else is struggling to make its way through my brain. Forget about standing room only -- these venues look more like breathing room only. A clever fire marshal could have made a small fortune tailing me across this state. As I look out at the crowds of humans doing their best to impersonate sardines, I worry not that some deranged person may shout Fire! but rather that someone may belt out, There's an extra six inches over here by the radiator! I have visited the most out-of-the-way places in California and, no matter where I go or how right-wing the congressman is that represents their district, all sorts of people are desperate to get inside to be with the thousands of others who want to be part of United We Stand Against the Thief-in-Chief. Grass Valley, Hayward, San Francisco, Santa Rosa, Ukiah, Arcata, Berkeley, Westwood, East L.A., Koreatown (L.A.) -- I wish all of you could see what I have seen. In every town, at every stop, huge throngs of Americans who are sick and tired of the silence that has been demanded of them, lest they be thought of as unpatriotic should they dare to question the actions of George W. Bush and company. That's what this tour is all about. It's time to come out and start acting like Americans again. And then there was San Diego. Over a thousand people are packed inside the 800-seat auditorium. Outside, another thousand people are on the lawn trying to get in. The traffic on the street is tied up and the stream of San Diegoans keeps filing up the sidewalk. I tell the organizers that I am going to spend a half-hour outside here speaking to the people who cannot get in. They are, after all, like me -- slackers who are habitually late. The crowd outdoors is wired and jazzed that they are being honored for being tardy. Then I go inside, give my usual talk, and begin to sign books. There's a 90-year-old lady whose granddaughter has driven her down from Orange County. There's a union organizer from the antiunion San Diego Union- Tribune newspaper who announces that his grandfather was a sit-down striker with my uncle back in 1937 in Flint. Some punk-poet kid tries to finish me off for good by offering me two Krispy Kreme donuts. Hundreds line up to have their books, their Awful Truth DVDs and, in one case, an Iron Maiden jean jacket, signed. I am told that we are getting close to the time when we will have to leave the school, as it has only been rented until 11pm. That is not good. Hundreds are still in line. I don't think any of these signings this week have been over before midnight. Somewhere around 11:30pm, I hear a commotion at the back of the auditorium. I see people start to scatter. The San Diego police are coming down the aisle, their large flashlights out (the auditorium lights are still on, so we all understand the implied other use of these instruments). The police are telling everyone to VACATE THESE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY OR YOU WILL ALL BE ARRESTED! I cannot believe what I am hearing. YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE ANOTHER WARNING. LEAVE NOW -- OR FACE ARREST! The cops approach the stage where I am signing the books. People are visibly frightened -- and about half the book-line bolts toward the doors. I stand up and speak to the officers. I am the author of this book, I tell them politely.
[CTRL] They Eerily Die
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?dir=1story=273152host=1printable=1 }}}Begin News | Sport | Argument | Education | Money | Travel | Enjoyment Independent Third former militiaman with links to Sabra and Chatila is murdered By Robert Fisk in Beirut 11 March 2002 Internal links Israeli warplanes destroy Arafat's headquarters Thousands mourn victims of suicide bomber who struck at crowded cafe Bruce Anderson: Perhaps blood is the only way to peace in Palestine The secrets of the Sabra and Chatila Palestinian camp massacres in 1982 have gone to the grave with yet another former Phalangist militiaman, the third Lebanese to die mysteriously in little more than two months. Michael Nassar, who was a former associate of Elie Hobeika the Phalangist leader murdered in a car bombing in Beirut in January was shot dead in Brazil by a man firing a pistol equipped with a silencer. His young wife, Marie, was shot down beside him. A Belgian court has postponed a decision over whether to indict Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister, for his role in the massacres he was held personally responsible by an Israeli commission of inquiry while lawyers for the survivors produce more evidence. But the vital evidence that may lie in the memories of those involved with the killers, who were allied to Israel at the time, is disappearing almost by the week as the death list grows. Nassar grew immensely wealthy from the Lebanese civil war, selling former Phalangist weapons to Croatian militias during the Balkan conflict. One of his ships ended up in the hands of the Serb navy, which sent Nassar a warehouse bill after the guns were impounded. He fled Beirut in 1997 after a Lebanese court demanded he explain his wealth, put at £70m . Nassar was apparently already worried when he pulled his car into a petrol station in the suburbs of Sao Paolo on Friday; he had used his mobile phone to tell a friend that he was being followed by men in a car. He made a second call telling his friend that his pursuers seemed to have vanished just before the gunman fired five bullets into his body and another seven into his wife. Israel has denied that Hobeika, who had agreed to testify against Mr Sharon less than 24 hours before he was killed, was murdered by its own death squads. The Lebanese authorities say the opposite. Nassar a nephew of the former general Antoine Lahd who commanded Israel's one-time proxy, the south Lebanon army militia might have been the victim of a Brazilian mafia killing. Certainly, robbery was not the motive. The first former right-wing Christian to be struck down was one of Hobeika's old colleagues, Jean Ghanem, who drove his car into a tree on New Year's Day. He died after being in a coma for two weeks. Then came Hobeika's murder and now Nassar's. Other former Phalangists live in fear of their lives, either from Israel or from Palestinians seeking revenge for the 1982 massacre in which up to 1,700 Palestinian civilians were slaughtered. One of them recently said that dozens of Palestinians who survived the massacres were executed at a former barracks near Jounieh, north of the capital, after being held in containers for two weeks. The prisoners had been handed over to the Phalangists, he said, by Israeli troops at the ruined sports stadium in Beirut. The location of their mass grave is known to The Independent. © 2001 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd End}}} ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than
[CTRL] Do you write articles?
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[CTRL] Story of the Maps
-Caveat Lector- From http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/WRACK/id46.html MAPS @ SITE show details of proposed and actual partitions of Palestine. Needless to say, there's a lot left to be desired. For a country that came into being as a result of a UN mandate, it ought ot consider paying attention to what the UN has to say about things. AER }}}Begin What is history but the story of how politicians have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race. - Thomas Sowell The Maps Tell The Story Emotions hit another round of intensity with the uproar from the recently published map of Palestine from the State Information Service. The popular clamor asks, is this the ultimate goal of the PLO - remove Israel from the map of the middle east altogether? Few can offer even the faintest glimmer of the chances for a peaceful resolution to the full scale warfare that has erupted in this ancient land. But how many people know the history of the last fifty plus years and the background that has brought the world to the brink of the ultimate holocaust? Millions of words have been written about who is at blame and the reasons for this eternal hatred. But a few pictures may explain better than appeals to reason. United Nations Partition Plan - 1947 MAP Starting with the United Nations Partition Plan, 1947, the original borders for the state of Israel are quite limited. This index illustrates the significant border changes after the 1949 War of Independence, after the six day war of 1967, than after the 1982 return of Sinai and the invasion of Lebanon, and finally after Palestinian autonomy and Lebanon withdrawal in 2000. But the most notable map is the one that identifies the Israeli settlements on the West Bank. A careful analysis of the locations and the areas that are an effective no man's land, demonstrates the consequences of the expanded settlements. It is hard to believe that Israel will ever agree to remove their own population from these areas. West Bank 2002 Settlement MAP Any rational person would likely conclude that a land for peace agreement would need to establish sovereignty for a Palestinian State. Under Ariel Sharon, the prospects for serious negotiations that will accept a geographic realignment are bleak. Yasser Arafat's authority has been emasculated and his own survival is in serious doubt. Under these dire and hostile circumstances, America needs to take a sober approach and reexamine our own national interests in this endless conflict. Balance towards the middle east has never been the central tenant of U.S. foreign policy. It just might be time to start regarding the strife as unsolvable and change direction for the benefit of America. The Bush administration has recognized that Sharon is out to inflict a maximum military response that will surely risk total open warfare. Colin Powell said about Sharon's actions: he has to take a hard look at his policies to see whether they will work., hardly the clearest indication that U.S. support will be withheld from Israel. The prospect of a removal of that patronage is as likely as Sharon removing the Jewish settlements on the West Bank. Efforts to foster an America obligation to side with Israel and defend the expansionist objectives of a greater Jewish state is insanity for our country. Can there be any doubt that the latest escalation in targeting Iraq as the next focal point in the 'so called' war on terror has more to do with providing cover for Sharon to unleash his forces, then eradicating imminent threats against America? With the recent leaking of the Pentagon Nuclear Posture Review with its strategy to use first strike nuclear weapons, Pat Buchanan asks a question that demands a thoughtful response. Why would we use nuclear weapons on Iraq in retaliation for an attack on Israel, when Israel has its own nuclear weapons? Under what conceivable circumstances would we use atomic weapons on Syria? Does the United States claim a right of first use of atomic weapons against any rogue state that develops a weapon of mass destruction? Again the maps tell the tale . . . The encouragement of West Bank settlements have been policy of several Israeli administrations. Until the map changes, the blood will continue to spill. President Bush has not been an honest broker. Our national interest is imperiled when we subordinate our policies to the goals of foreign countries. This folly has been common for decades. Britain has played America for the fool while China treats us as her stooge. So why allow the U.S. to be Israel's bitch? Look at the maps, again . . . Then ask Bush if the destruction of an America city is the price that will need to be paid, in the defensive of any expanding empire? Isn't it time to reverse the hostile attitudes of over a billion Muslims toward the U.S.? Surely you don't want to change all those maps to redesign even more borders, policed by American troops? The solution is clear from our interests as a
[CTRL] Blast mapper
-Caveat Lector- Now that everyone's all up in arms about Arbusto's DoO doing their periodic atomic weapons assessment (they don't just sit around and Simonise them things for kicks), at the site shown below is a PBS rendition of what a blast would look like somewhere in the world, depending on the warhead and other assorted factors. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/mapablast.html Blast Mapper: Map a Blast Would you survive a nuclear blast? Nuclear Blast Mapper will show you how terribly destructive thermonuclear weapons are. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Der Fuhrer Mayor Bloomberg
Speer giving his first radio interview (sounding rather nervous) speaking about his designs for the Zepplin field. What was to become known later as his famous Cathedral of Light. Strange - when these two guys came up with the idea of the light memorial shortly after the WTC demise and demolition they should have given a credit line as to whom and what used these symbols quite effectively and it was the Architech Albert Speer who did same. Nor would they expect later Mayor Bloomberg would speak as Hitler once did at the feet of great lights memorializing the or a, Cathedral of Light. A holocaust was committed on the Twin Tower site - but what will always be remembered is Larry Silverstein with the new plans (when he even stole that idea from somebody else for they were plans submitted but not chosen for first World Trade Center) - anywyay it will always be remembered it was Larry Silverstein who the next day had the new plans on the drawing board waiting for his 7 billion dollar insurance policy to bear fruit. These lights are a nice memorial to Albert Speer - eerie, depressing, and a constant reminder to what has become known as The Silverstein Twin Towers Now all we need is to hear Amazing Grace played day and night until the people of New York cannot tolerate anymore of this holocaust. Meanwhile the firemen are still being brought up but had it not been for the firemen, these dead bodies would have been all dumped in the dumpsters which commenced the day they found the gold truck, retrieved the gold, which evidently was more precious than the remains of the dead firemen. A proper tribute to the World Trade Center would be to find out who took them out, cui bono, and who made the big bucks from their demise for we already knowo when it came to some of the money paid out, a janitor's life, or a secretary's life was not worth as much as one of those big time lawyersbut then looks like quite a few did not show up for work that day. OSaba Here you have the opportunity to hear Speer by a few wav-files. Please click below... speer1.wav (244 kB) From his first speech, as Minister of Armaments, held in a snowstorm. (The death march music for Todt has been dubbed in the background). (Music always added for propaganda purposessaba note) No matter how great our grief is, (Speer is referring to the death of Todt) the Fuhrers grief is greater. Through our unceasing work, let us ease his pain. The success of our work is crucial to Germany's victory. I have vowed to the Fuhrer to devote my strength to this end. speer2.wav (207 kB) Speer giving his first radio interview (sounding rather nervous) speaking about his designs for the Zepplin field. What was to become known later as his famous Cathedral of Light. We have come to the conclusion that with a field of length 1000 metres, we need to design the stage from which the Fuhrer will speak in a way that makes him look particularly impressive to everyone at the rally. speer3.wav (259 kB) A speech from late 1942 (?) Speer is saying how despite heavy losses, due to allied bombing, production has increased from month to month to make sure front line troops have the weapons they need. speer4.wav (409 kB) Speer's speech to the conference at Posen. Given on the morning before Himmler's infamous speech regarding the Final solution to the Jewish Problem. (Speer left following his own speech.) The exact translation is printed in Gitta Sereny's book Albert Speer His Battle With Truth. In this excerpt Speer says that any districts not complying with his directives will be dealt with severely by Reichsmarshall Himmler. speer5.wav (423 kB) Speer's speech from a Hamburg radio station on May 3rd 1945. The text of which is also printed in Ms. Serenys book. This section includes : The German people in this war. .God Save Germany. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.dataphone.se/~ms/speer/sounds.htm ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Story of the Maps
-Caveat Lector- I am more interested in why the King James Bible in Joel - why Palestine was stricken out of the book, rather like blotting someone's name out of the book - right? Masonic stuff or what? Who permitted this one and last reference to be taken out of the King James Bible? Maps I have of Palestine - one is nearly 200 years old - all borders show clearly. So the genocide has really begun in Israel and we see who and what was really behind Hitler, right? For he did work well with the Zionists to pave the roads to Israel. And to think, at first Herzi wanted UGANDA.Tell me do you think the people of Uganda might have objected for today we see churches being burned, people being locked into churches and burned alive - maybe something like the Twin Towers that day - where the innocents fell from the Falling Towers. So whose Master Plan is this? Don't we really know what is over the hill and from where this rotten to the core bunch operates? Spokes for a Wheel? Many Domes but only one rock. Well at last Israel is receiving due recognition for it is about to become most loathesome country in world. Maybe when the pipeline is finished in Afghanistan Israel will not be afforded much more attention? Is this really what it is about and why Israeli sabotuers operate over the world . So Remember the USS Liberty this Easter..no memorial to them is there? No memorial to WWII Veterans either who died for their constitution along with 55 million others plus.' The Holocaust of the USS Liberty wil NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.perhaps a statute of Israeli planes and the napalming of our wounded lying on deck dying - perhaps this would be a most impressive monument to our dear friend, Israel. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US sends suspects to face torture - The Guardian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4372442,00.html US sends suspects to face torture Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles Guardian Tuesday March 12, 2002 The US has been secretly sending prisoners suspected of al-Qaida connections to countries where torture during interrogation is legal, according to US diplomatic and intelligence sources. Prisoners moved to such countries as Egypt and Jordan can be subjected to torture and threats to their families to extract information sought by the US in the wake of the September 11 attacks. The normal extradition procedures have been bypassed in the transportation of dozens of prisoners suspected of terrorist connections, according to a report in the Washington Post. The suspects have been taken to countries where the CIA has close ties with the local intelligence services and where torture is permitted. According to the report, US intelligence agents have been involved in a number of interrogations. A CIA spokesman yesterday said the agency had no comment on the allegations. A state department spokesman said the US had been working very closely with other countries - It's a global fight against terrorism. After September 11, these sorts of movements have been occurring all the time, a US diplomat told the Washington Post. It allows us to get information from terrorists in a way we can't do on US soil. The seizing of suspects and taking them to a third country without due process of law is known as rendition. The reason for sending a suspect to a third country rather than to the US, according to the diplomats, is an attempt to avoid highly publicised cases that could lead to a further backlash from Islamist extremists. One of the prisoners transported in this way, Muhammad Saad Iqbal Madni, is allegedly linked to Richard Reid, the Briton accused of the attempted shoe bomb attack on an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami in December. He was taken from Indonesia to Egypt on a US-registered Gulfstream jet without a court hearing after his name appeared on al-Qaida documents. He remains in custody in Egypt and has been subjected to interrogation by intelligence agents. An Indonesian government official said disclosing the Americans' role would have exposed President Megawati Sukarnoputri to criticism from Muslim political parties. We can't be seen to be cooperating too closely with the United States, the official said. A Yemeni microbiology student has also been taken in this way, being flown from Pakistan to Jordan on a US-registered jet. US forces also seized five Algerians and a Yemeni in Bosnia on January 19 and flew them to Guantanamo Bay after the men were released by the Bosnian supreme court for lack of evidence, and despite an injunction from the Bosnian human rights chamber that four of them be allowed to remain in the country pending further proceedings. The US has been criticised by some of its European allies over the detention of prisoners at Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. After the Pentagon released pictures of blindfolded prisoners kneeling on the ground, the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, was forced to defend the conditions in which they were being held. Unsuccessful attempts have been made by civil rights lawyers based in Los Angeles to have the Camp X-Ray prisoners either charged in US courts or treated as prisoners of war. The US administration has resisted such moves, arguing that those detained, both Taliban fighters and members of al-Qaida, were not entitled to be regarded as prisoners of war because they were terrorists rather than soldiers and were not part of a recognised, uniformed army. __ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
[CTRL] Bush's Stealth Policy on Nuclear Arms
-Caveat Lector- http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/071/oped/Bush_s_stealth_policy_on_N_arms+.shtml Bush's Stealth Policy on Nuclear Arms By Thomas Oliphant, March 12, 2002 WASHINGTON | It is not simply the fresh list of countries that the United States is willing to consider nuking someday. What is truly significant - as well as stupid, scary, and outrageous - is the almost casual breaking of long-standing policy taboos about the unthinkable and the implications of this cavalier attitude for relations with the rest of the world and for future arms races. The Russians and Chinese already know the United States is unilaterally departing from the 1972 treaty effectively banning missile defense systems. Now the world has reason to doubt the American commitment to the 1974 treaty to guard against nuclear proliferation as well as the honesty and good will of Bush administration pledges to cut back our post-Cold War nuclear arsenal and to maintain a moratorium on testing. The cover story the administration sought to peddle on last weekend's TV talk shows - via Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice - is that contingency plans to target Syria, Libya, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Russia, and China are more theoretical exercises than serious policy work and that no special notice need be taken. The cover story is belied by actual intentions as revealed to Congress in a freshly completed Nuclear Posture Review and in the very faint, fine print of the recently unveiled Bush budget. Over the weekend the headline-making list of countries leaked from Capitol Hill, but as part of a leak of the underlying policy document that began four weeks ago. On Feb. 13, the Natural Resources Defense Council - well-known for its thorough, documented research - put out the first detailed summary of the posture review that had been ordered by Congress in late 2000 and of a special briefing the Defense Department had conducted on the document - without the secret list of countries. At the time, no one really noticed. With the addition of the countries, The Los Angeles Times got noticed. Here's the council's highly critical but accurate summary view four weeks ago: Behind the administration's rhetorical mask of post-Cold War restraint lie expansive plans to revitalize US nuclear forces and all the elements that support them, within a so-called New Triad of capabilities that combine nuclear and conventional offensive strikes with missile defenses and nuclear weapons infrastructure. If the basic purpose of nuclear weapons since the end of World War II had been to prevent their use and proliferation, the deadly serious review by the Bush administration - with the force plans and massive spending as accompaniments - results in a doctrine that contemplates their use and appears indifferent to their proliferation. Numbers tell a large chunk of the story. When the administration's intention unilaterally to abrogate the ABM treaty was made known, President Bush made much of a supposed intention to reduce its supply of deployed warheads from roughly 8,000 to below 4,000 in 2007 and eventually to between 1,700 and 2,200. What the posture review actually reveals is a plan to cut immediate force requirements for operationally deployed forces. What's going on here is more a change of terms than in posture, hidden by a new, gobbledygook accounting system that the council properly declared worthy of Enron. Behind the clearly visible nuclear inventory, the council found a huge, hidden arsenal. It included, but no longer counted, warheads on two Trident submarines being overhauled at all times, as well as 160 more now listed as spare. It included nearly 5,000 intact warheads now in a status called inactive reserve, not to mention a few thousand more bombs and cruise missile warheads as part of a new responsive force. And on top of that there is to be a stockpile of weapons-grade plutonium and other components from which thousands more weapons could be assembled quickly. Extrapolating the information, the Defense Council estimated that the United States would have a total of 10,590 warheads at the end of 2006, compared with 10,656 this year. And there's more. The administration's posture review also discloses plans to greatly expand the nuclear war infrastructure and to prepare for a resumption of testing, in part to make possible a new generation of warheads that could penetrate deep into the ground. The rules of the nuclear road from the US perspective have never included a flat-out promise never to be the first combatant to resort to nuclear war. During the Cold War, the United States was always prepared to go nuclear to stop a massive, conventional attack from the east in Europe, and before the Gulf War, Saddam Hussein got a stern message that all bets were off if he used chemical or biological weapons. But this is different. This is a plan to use nukes in conventional war-fighting and to maintain a
[CTRL] Slaughterman Cometh: Gaza raid, civilians killed too
Al Q'aida - wonder how the Aida Refugee Camp was given its name..RACHE RACHE RACHE - vengance was the call of over 1,000 mourners when the body of a 14 yeara old kid was buried .this was April 2000 this call was heard. Slaughter of more innocents. What wer the words again Timothy McVeigh circled in the Gideon Bible - Wrath of God.and like a Samson, he took out the Murrah Building while the news media screamed mideast terrorists did it.only mideast terrorists in this country are of questionable origin. OSaba Duri During Gaza raid, civilians killed tooSome slain without apparent provocation; families enragedBy Lee Hockstader THE WASHINGTON POST GAZA CITY, March 12 As Israeli forces rumbled close to his house, 54-year-old Abdul Rahman Izzadin headed up the stairs and called down to his wife, children and grandchildren to stay indoors. Those were the last words they heard him say. Jabalya has a long, bitter history of fighting the Jews. Fifteen years ago, it was where the first intifada, or Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation, erupted. AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, as he reached to close the metal door leading to the rooftop, he was shot three times in the ear, neck and cheek and killed instantly, apparently by an Israeli sniper on the roof of an adjacent house that neighbors said the army had commandeered. Moments later, when Izzadin's 36-year-old son Walid rushed to his father's aid, he, too, was shot to death. It is not known why they were fired upon. The Izzadins, killed as Israel invaded the Gaza Strip's Jabalya refugee camp late Monday, were buried today. Weeping family members accused Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of terrorism, and called him a beast. Oh, my son, my son, my beloved son! sobbed Abdul Rahman's widow and Walid's mother tears streaming down her cheeks. Her enraged daughters and daughters-in-law grabbed the two men's bloodstained clothes from a plastic sack and held them out to foreign visitors, as if demanding an explanation. EXACTED A HEAVY TOLL Massive Israeli force enters Ramallah Special report: War and peace in the Mideast The Israeli invasion of Jabalya lasted just three hours, from 10:30 p.m. Monday to 1:30 this morning, but it exacted a heavy toll. Eighteen Palestinians, some of whom tried to fight back, were killed in the raid. Several dozen were wounded, including gunmen as well paunchy middle-aged tailors and construction workers who were shot in their homes for no apparent reason. There were no Israeli casualties. Few places in the Middle East are as poor, overcrowded, desperate and radicalized as Jabalya, a teeming camp of 100,000 that is fertile ground for the Islamic Resistance Movement, known as Hamas, which has carried out suicide bombings and other attacks on Israelis. Israeli officials say they attacked Jabalya in self-defense. At the camp's edge, troops blew up four metal workshops, which Israel says were used to make mortars and rockets that have been fired at Israeli communities inside and beyond the Gaza Strip. We had to guard our civilians, a senior Israeli security official said today. If our people are being shelled, we have to prevent this. But in the camp, where most of the men are jobless and thousands of children scamper barefoot amid open sewage and broken sidewalks and streets of sand, the attack was not a defeat. It prompted calls for revenge. Hey, Jews, you cowards! announces a typical bit of wall graffiti in Jabalya. We swear we'll answer your aggression. Just wait. LONG, BITTER HISTORY Advertisement Jabalya has a long, bitter history of fighting the Jews. Fifteen years ago, it was where the first intifada, or Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation, erupted. The Israelis finally pulled out of the camp in 1994, under the Oslo peace agreement, but they did not go far. Israeli troops and army bases remained inside the Gaza Strip within a couple of miles of Jabalya and within easy striking distance, as the camp's residents were reminded Monday. With little warning, the tanks and armored vehicles streamed toward Jabalya from the north. Helicopter gunships roared overhead. The electricity was cut and phone service collapsed in most areas. Word that the army was approaching raced through Jabalya's warren of narrow alleyways and trash-choked streets, and hundreds of the camp's young militants, armed and unarmed, raced south toward Gaza City to escape by car and on foot. Many headed for the main hospital, calculating that it was unlikely to be hit by the Israelis. Latest Mideast news WSJ: Palestinian advantage NBC exclusive: Al-Aqsa militants emerge Newsweek: Saudi plan NBC analysis: Chances for the Saudi plan? Brian Williams: Modest hopes, high anxiety WashPost coverage America strikes back At least some militants stayed to fight, and fared poorly. One
[CTRL] Fwd: News Bites
In a message dated 3/13/02 12:50:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/11, the most powerful nation in the world, equipped with the most sophisticated spying technology available and a $396 billion defense budget was brought to its' knees by a handful of rouges with 99 cent box cutters. In my opinion, there is something very foul smelling about that. I believe that in time, the truth will come out. The mayor of New York, Time Magazine's man of the year, ordered thousands of tons of WTC steel sold and melted down before a proper investigation of the greatest crime scene the country has ever witnessed could be conducted. Much of it was sent to South Korea where Bush/Bin Laden's Carlyle Group has a massive investment. Something foul smelling about that too. In my opinion, an 85% approval rating only proves one thing. Einstein was correct when he said: Two things are infinite, human stupidity and the universe, and I am not sure of the latter. ---BeginMessage--- If you have received this e-mail, then you are on the mailing list of the Center for an Informed America. If you feel you have received this in error, please send back a reply asking to be removed from the list. If this message was forwarded to you and you would like to receive future mailings, e-mail a request to be added to the list. US sends suspects to face torture Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles Tuesday March 12, 2002 The Guardian The US has been secretly sending prisoners suspected of al-Qaida connections to countries where torture during interrogation is legal, according to US diplomatic and intelligence sources. Prisoners moved to such countries as Egypt and Jordan can be subjected to torture and threats to their families to extract information sought by the US in the wake of the September 11 attacks. The normal extradition procedures have been bypassed in the transportation of dozens of prisoners suspected of terrorist connections, according to a report in the Washington Post. The suspects have been taken to countries where the CIA has close ties with the local intelligence services and where torture is permitted. According to the report, US intelligence agents have been involved in a number of interrogations. A CIA spokesman yesterday said the agency had no comment on the allegations. A state department spokesman said the US had been "working very closely with other countries - It's a global fight against terrorism". "After September 11, these sorts of movements have been occurring all the time," a US diplomat told the Washington Post. "It allows us to get information from terrorists in a way we can't do on US soil." The seizing of suspects and taking them to a third country without due process of law is known as "rendition" [Editor's Note: It's also known as "kidnapping."] A Yemeni microbiology student has also been taken in this way, being flown from Pakistan to Jordan on a US-registered jet. US forces also seized five Algerians and a Yemeni in Bosnia on January 19 and flew them to Guantanamo Bay after the men were released by the Bosnian supreme court for lack of evidence, and despite an injunction from the Bosnian human rights chamber that four of them be allowed to remain in the country pending further proceedings. snip 'Inadequate' US troops pulled out of battleground From Catherine Philp in Leg Diwawl, Afghanistan March 12, 2002 The Times (UK) HUNDREDS of American troops were pulled out of the ground battle with al-Qaeda forces because they failed to adapt to the guerrilla tactics required for fighting in the mountains, according to their Afghan allies. More than 1,000 Afghan troops rushed to the front line yesterday to take up the slack after the withdrawal of 400 US troops from the mountains of eastern Afghanistan. The American military has described the withdrawal as a tactical reappraisal of their battleplan, but Afghan commanders told a different story of inexperienced American soldiers unable to advance through the unfamiliar mountains to track down al-Qaeda and Taleban foes. They were not trained for the kind of fighting we do in the mountains and, in these conditions, their kind of fighting is useless, Commander Allah Mohammed said. They were weakening our morale, it was better for them to go Shah Mahood Popal, their deputy commander, believed it was self-preservation that stopped the Americans from launching a more decisive attack "They should stick to bombing, he said Afghan commanders believe that the US has exaggerated the number of casualties in the bombing campaign, saying that at least several hundred al-Qaeda forces are up in mountain caves ready to fight back. We have been very close to their positions and we have seen no dead bodies, Commander Mohammed said Shahi-Kot has been called the last bastion of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, but there is evidence that other pockets of resistance still exist in provinces to the south This battle will not be the last, one
[CTRL] Fwd: Marching Into Georgia
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Re: [CTRL] CONGRESS SCREWS AMERICA / AMNESTY PASSES
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/12/02 8:43:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you consider forcibly ejecting people from their homes, destroying their culture and food supplies, and handing out disease infested supplies to them, legal. This came later in the story. First the Europeans came and settled. Then they moved the native population west. Or removed them by other means. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Secret behind Secret Societties
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Secret behind Secret Societties Jon Rapoprt©1998 Truth Seeker Co, Inc. PO Box 28550 San Diego, CA 92198 ISBN 0-939040-08-5 410 pages - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - 46 Karen introduced me to a man named Avi, a former member of the group at another level. He helped me see how far a little secret society, with its curtain of enticing art, could go up the line toward really nasty consequences. Avi told me that the group definitely had Nazi connections, that beyond the mystical symbols, the stories, the Seal of Solomon, the ceremonies, the costumes, the ascended masters, there was another compartment. I asked Avi what the group's Nazi connections had been. Drugs, he said. Cocaine. He shrugged. Karen didn't know. I spent a little time reviewing several old radio shows I had done on KPFK in Los Angeles on Nazi influences. According to one line of scholarly thought, it was the German psychiatrists who really influenced Hitler to set up the extermination camps and begin the elimination of inferior genetic types. Earlier, the psychiatrists had been sterilizing German inmates at mental hospitals, and had been murdering some of those inmates under the heading of euthanasia. The Nazis credited their eugenics laws to American pioneers like Paul Popenoe. America had a considerable tradition of sterilization of mental patients in California, and before the Second World War there were very reputable medical doctors in the U.S. who wrote articles upholding eugenics as a tool to weed out compromised people whose genes were obviously defective. The Nazi Party, in its fervor to elevate the pure Aryan and dispose of so-called lower genetic influences, spurred on research fanatics who wanted nothing more than to experiment on human bodies and brains. In general, business connections between American and German corporations and major players, before, during, and after World War II are legendary Leading up to the War, a number of industrial and banking leaders in the U.S. and Britain and Germany as well as government officials in those countries supported both the U.S. and Germany These agreements held during the War. The banks which represented all these men were National City Bank and Chase National Bank in the U.S. The Nazi lawyers who handled matters among these elite double-agents were Gerhardt Westrick and Heinrich Albert. Emil Puhl, a Nazi economist, functioned as a kind of go-between. Puhl worked for the Nazi Reichsbank and the Bank for International Settlements (BIS). BIS had originally been set up to receive German reparations from World War I. It however became a conduit for money to Germany out of the U.S., England, and, eventually, from conquered European nations. Again, this money flowed to Germany. To Hitler. In gold alone, we are talking about $378 million. U.S. government officials were aware of this and condoned it, even though they were both contributors to, and administrative officials of, BIS. In December 1941, Standard Oil of New Jersey, General Motors, ITT, and Ford had a total of $200 million invested in Germany. It stayed there during the War. This is only the beginning of a much longer story, in which many of the names are known. Avi told me that the cult in, California he and Karen had belonged to sent cash to a Nazi cult out of the country Cash? I said. Why does a Nazi group need money if the big shots got out of Germany with millions? Rich church, poor church, he said. Ever hear of it? The Vatican owns huge tracts of land but their private schools can't buy new books. Same with the Nazis. The nest egg is held back and the groups have to hustle. So that's it? This California cult sent cash out of the country? That's the connection? They sent it to Chile. Who to? The Colonia Dignidad. In the south. I've heard about it. Well, he said, then you know they helped overthrow President Allende. It's a Nazi torture center. For real Nazis who got out of Germany after the War, and their proteges. They set up a sophisticated communications link there, so they can talk to other Nazis in different countries. They're allied with the worst right-wing lunatics in Chile. I've read about it, I said. They have 30,000 acres. Soundproofed torture rooms. They hook people up to shock machines and sit in other rooms,. It's remote control. Amnesty International finally got in and inspected the place. Insane. The Colonia, an estate outside the town of Parral, is notorious among Nazi hunters and human rights groups like Amnesty. People have disappeared there and have never been seen again. I said, I understand they do cultish rituals too. I think so, Avi said. The ancient Teutonic stuff. The California cult group has sent a few people there. A few of their members. For what? I don't know what they told them, but the result may have been torture. I guess you could say they supplied victims for the Nazis. What the hell for? How should I know? he
Re: [CTRL] Der Fuhrer Mayor Bloomberg
-Caveat Lector- From: saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strange - when these two guys came up with the idea It was a consortium of artists who came up with the idea, not just 'two guys'... of the light memorial shortly after the WTC demise and demolition they should have given a credit line as to whom and what used these symbols quite effectively and it was the Architech Albert Speer Idiot. Even the previous article you provided to ostensibly 'prove' your point had everyone except the liberal Green Party mayor who was insisting on Political Correctness quite rightly saying that absolutely no one today associates light shows with Albert Speer... Light shows were done years before Speer came on the scene, most notably at amusement parks from 1900 thru the 1930s, when the use of electrical lights on a large scale was still a novel idea and therefore was as much an attraction for the public as the sideshows and rides at such parks... Hitler was an art student who did paintings; does that mean every painter since Hitler is secretly honoring Hitler? Hitler also loved Wagner, and thought his operas described the New Reich of the Aryan Superman; does that mean that every performance of Twilight of the Gods since 1945 is a tribute to Hitler? Does the Wagner/Nazi connection to Parsifal mean that the cartoon strip Prince Valiant is really a 'nod' to the Nazis? Speer didn't create anything new, he just built on what had been done before, albeit with unlimited resources at his disposal. If there was any one TRUE creative genius of Nazi Germany, it was the filmmaker Leni Reifenstahl (sp?), whose Triumph of the Will and Olympia contained such ground-breaking techniques that almost every filmmaker since has utilized at least one technique that Reifenstahl originated... But that doesn't mean that all those subsequent filmmakers were honoring either Reifenstahl or Hitler or the Nazis, only that they recognized dramatic artistic techniques that could be used for other purposes... A holocaust was committed on the Twin Tower site - but what will always be remembered is Larry Silverstein with the new plans (when he even stole that idea from somebody else for they were plans submitted but not chosen for first World Trade Center) - anywyay it will always be remembered it was Larry Silverstein who the next day had the new plans on the drawing board waiting for his 7 billion dollar insurance policy to bear fruit. It's been pointed out to you time and time again, duncehead, that Silverstein did NOT have 'new plans' the day after the attacks, he had one of many alternative plans that had been submitted to the Port Authority back in the early 1960s when the WTC was first proposed and put out to bid for design...the PA has kept all of the other plans in storage and they are all available for consideration for possible reconstruction of the site... These lights are a nice memorial to Albert Speer Only for you...but since you admire the Nazis and all things Aryan, this is no surprise... Now all we need is to hear Amazing Grace played day and night until the people of New York cannot tolerate anymore of this holocaust. Actually we HAVE been hearing it almost every day since 9/11, as more remains of firefighters are recovered and yet another funeral is held... We in the NYC metro area are far from becoming intolerant 'of this holocaust'... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rosie: 'I Am Gay Parent'; Invites Bush to Spend Weekend :-)
From today's list of non-news events, we have this rather interesting titular pun from the Sultan of Sensationalism, Matt Drudge: ~ Source: http://www.drudgereport.com/mattro.htm X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MARCH 13, 2002 12:18:35 ET X ROSIE: 'I AM GAY PARENT'; INVITES BUSH TO SPEND WEEKEND **World Exclusive** Talkshow Queen Rosie O'Donnell unloads in a high-impact interview with ABC-TV set for air Thursday night [9-11 PM ET]. I am the gay parent, O'Donnell tells Diane Sawyer on PRIMETIME THURSDAY, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. ...I first fell in love at 20, with a woman. MORE In the interview, O'Donnell challenges President Bush to spend a weekend with her family, network sources claim. DIANE SAWYER: President Bush has said...I believe children ought to be adopted in families with a woman and a man who are married. ROSIE O'DONNELL: Well, he's wrong. President Bush is wrong about that. He's really wrong. And, you know, he and his wife are invited to come spend a weekend at my house with my children. MORE The DRUDGE REPORT can now reveal details from the ABC interview. On why she decided to talk publicly about her experiences as a gay parent: Part of the reason for doing this interview, I don't think America knows what a gay parent looks like. I am the gay parent. America has watched me parent my children on TV for six years. They know what kind of a parent I am. So when you think of gay parenting, you don't have an image to hold onto. I will be that image, because I am a gay parent... I was stunned into action. I mean I never knew that there were a half a million kids in foster care in America I always thought to use my voice as an advocate for children because...they have no right legally. On whether her audience is aware that she is gay: I don't really know... you know, I don't think about that. Everybody who is in my life has always known...So I'm not really sure. You know, it's not something that I'm going to change my show. I mean the only thing different about my show yesterday and the day after this airs, is that now the audience knows one more thing about me. It doesn't make me different than I was the day before. I've just let them in a little bit more. I'm the same person that I was. You know there are many, many housewives out there who watch the show and who love me. And you know, people had said to me, 'Well, you don't want to do this case because what if they stop watching? I said I have more faith in them than that. I really do. I think if they felt as though it was a lie, if they felt like I was pretending to be who I am on the show, they would turn away. But I haven't lied to them yet. This is another element that I hadn't shown them. But it was never a lie. On why she waited to tell her audience about her sexual orientation: Well, I wanted to make sure, until I was in a committed, long term relationship. I've been in one for about four years. A person I'm going to spend my life with. I wanted to ... to make sure that, um, I was ready to handle whatever it is that comes with this. And I wanted there to be a reason. And the Lofton case, this young boy Bert, ten years old, being threatened to take away from the only family he's known. That's a good reason for me. That's a really good reason. And all those 3,400 children in Florida, it's a really good reason I think. You know, I'm not really doing it for a big coming out thing and I don't begrudge anyone who does that. For some people being gay is a huge challenge in their life. It never was for me. And if it's a big challenge in your life when you finally say it, it's fanfare and trumpets and confetti. It's not that for me. I'm saying it now because I want people to know that I'm the kind of parent that the State of Florida...thinks is unworthy and it's wrong. On whether her decision to take up this issue is tied to the end of her television show: DIANE SAWYER Any of this, have anything to do with your decision to leave the show. That you want to take on this issue. Any part of it? ROSIE O'DONNELL Oh, some of it definitely had to do with my leaving the show. You know, I feel creatively I've done everything that I wanted to do on the program, and, you know, we've had a great run. On whether her TV show or magazine will change focus: The magazine will be the same. We take really adult approach. We treat women with respect and dignity and we assume that they're intelligent...It's not going to become the gay Rosie magazine and it's not going to be the gay Rosie O'Donnell show. It's just going to be the Rosie O'Donnell show. On how she became involved in the Florida gay adoption case: When I read it, I thought, my Lord, if somebody came to me now, and said, Oh, Parker, you know, he's a foster kid? And the parents' rights are terminated. But we're gonna take him now because you're gay, my world would collapse. I'm lucky to have adopted my
[CTRL] FW: [Zero] Erosion of Freedoms in America (not a joke this time)
Title: FW: [Zero] Erosion of Freedoms in America (not a joke this time) -- Doubt. Doubt thyself. Doubt even if thou doubtest thyself. Doubt all. Doubt even if thou doubtest all. It seems sometimes as if beneath all conscious doubt there lay some deepest certainty. O kill it! Slay the snake! The horn of the Doubt-Goat be exalted Dive deeper, ever deeper, into the Abyss of Mind, until thou unearth the fox THAT. On, hounds! Yoicks! Tally-ho! Bring THAT to bay! Then, wind the Mort! Uncle Al. the kiddies pal NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew [Editor's Note: The following is a speech that Dennis Kucinich, U.S. Congressman from Cleveland, Ohio, gave this past weekend at the University of Southern California. Rep. Kucinich is the leader of the Progressive Caucus and a longtime defender of free speech, civil liberties and international peace. This speech makes him the first member of the United States Congress to openly repudiate President Bush's war rationale.] I offer these brief remarks today as a prayer for our country, with love of democracy, as a celebration of our country. With love for our country. With hope for our country. With a belief that the light of freedom cannot be extinguished as long as it is inside of us. With a belief that freedom rings resoundingly in a democracy each time we speak freely. With the understanding that freedom stirs the human heart and fear stills it. With the belief that a free people cannot walk in fear and faith at the same time. With the understanding that there is a deeper truth expressed in the unity of the United States. That implicate in the union of our country is the union of all people. That all people are essentially one. That the world is interconnected not only on the material level of economics, trade, communication, and transportation, but interconnected through human consciousness, through the human heart, through the heart of the world, through the simply expressed impulse and yearning to be and to breathe free. I offer this prayer for America. Let us pray that our nation will remember that the unfolding of the promise of democracy in our nation paralleled the striving for civil rights. That is why we must challenge the rationale of the Patriot Act. We must ask, why should America put aside guarantees of constitutional justice? How can we justify in effect canceling the First Amendment and the right of free speech, the right to peaceably assemble? How can we justify in effect canceling the Fourth Amendment, probable cause, the prohibitions against unreasonable search and seizure? How can we justify in effect canceling the Fifth Amendment, nullifying due process, and allowing for indefinite incarceration without a trial? How can we justify in effect canceling the Sixth Amendment, the right to prompt and public trial? How can we justify in effect canceling the Eighth Amendment which protects against cruel and unusual punishment? We cannot justify widespread wiretaps and internet surveillance without judicial supervision, let alone with it. We cannot justify secret searches without a warrant. We cannot justify giving the Attorney General the ability to designate domestic terror groups. We cannot justify giving the FBI total access to any type of data which may exist in any system anywhere such as medical records and financial records. We cannot justify giving the CIA the ability to target people in this country for intelligence surveillance. We cannot justify a government which takes from the people our right to privacy and then assumes for its own operations a right to total secrecy. The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration. Let us pray that our nation's leaders will not be overcome with fear. Because today there is great fear in our great Capitol. And this must be understood before we can ask about the shortcomings of Congress in the current environment. The great fear began when we had to evacuate the Capitol on September 11. It continued when we had to leave the Capitol again when a bomb scare occurred as members were pressing the CIA during a secret briefing. It continued when we abandoned Washington when anthrax, possibly from a government lab, arrived in the mail. It continued when the Attorney General declared a nationwide terror alert and then the Administration brought the destructive Patriot Bill to the floor of the House. It continued in the release of the Bin Laden tapes at the same time the President was announcing the withdrawal from the ABM treaty. It remains present in the cordoning off of the Capitol. It is present in the camouflaged armed national guardsmen who greet members of Congress each day we enter the Capitol campus. It is present in the labyrinth of concrete barriers
Re: [CTRL] Rosie: 'I Am Gay Parent'; Invites Bush to Spend Weekend :-)
-Caveat Lector- So Rose should take that picture of the then 2 year old who had her front teeth knocked out, and who was oh so accident prone but Rosie would tell us about their accidents...this little 2 year old accidently hit her little nose damaging same, blood, etc., while trying to open a can of legos. And then the night the police was called because of a child's scream in the night - the neighbors were concerned but Rosie just told the Police I am Rosie O'Donnell and am a foster mother Later the one child was removed from her home but all her neighbors, were talking because at the time unknown to the public in general she had her lesbian paramour living in with her and the kids. Paula Poundstone her counterpart who also tried to work herself into the Kids shows, like Sesame Street and played elves with this Rob Reiner's wife in TV commercials - Paula got caught and had it not been for 911, she would not have gotten off so light but then this pig ended up in the slammer anyway. It was Paula Poundstone who said she always checked the sodomy laws before she would go into any state.well now I can see why .so sodomy in some states no longer illegal but some of these wonderful stories such as these two queers who murdered a 14 year old and got caught - oh must keep this oh so quiet for we do not want the public to get a rope and hang the bastards do we. So Rosie just lost another kid.the Court would not let her adopt this one child and there she sat looking like a pig minus an apple in her mouth, playing Mother with her little blonde friend - each holding a child. Hey we got a guy like that once in our town, and I am the one who got him..later I saw this creep and he was sufering from a wasting disease - he looked decadent - he was in like Flynt with the mob too..then one day and this was in the time frame AIDS was announced, his paramour live in boyfriend murdered him..nobody cared.and I often wonder those three little kids he took in ages 5 and 9, etcwhether they too have AIDS today. He virtually bought them from an alcoholic father. Latest trend, rightlike little Michael Jackson but the mark of Cain put upon him for his nose fell off.. So Rosie and Paula Poundstone bet they both double check the sodomy laws now before they move ino a state an I bet K Mart rues the day they ever had that this mother on their payroll. Oh yes, her other cause was taking away guns from the public while she armed her bodyguards.think they could find a bodyguard who would dodge a bullet met for her? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CONGRESS SCREWS AMERICA / AMNESTY PASSES
-Caveat Lector- lets leave what the brits did to the scots and irish out of theis! ;^P thew wrote: -Caveat Lector- on 3/12/02 11:12 PM, Archibald Bard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Alas! Most of our Ancestors came here LEGALLY. Bard Sure If you consider forcibly ejecting people from their homes, destroying their culture and food supplies, and handing out disease infested supplies to them, legal. Om -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. Edward R. Murrow NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israeli Attack on Liberty: Update
-Caveat Lector- @ http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20020312_665.html Israeli Army Fires on Journalists Israeli Army Fires on Hotel Where Journalists Were Filming Assault on Al-Amari Refugee Camp The Associated Press RAMALLAH, West Bank March 12 Israeli forces fired for 10 to 15 minutes from tank-mounted machine guns on a hotel where journalists were photographing armor targeting the al-Amari refugee camp early Tuesday. Remainder of story at site A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Colorado Rocky Mountain Stasi
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.denverpost.com/cda/article/detail/0,1040,53%257E456680%257E36%25 7E%257E,00.html }}}Begin Police 'spy files' assailed ACLU criticism spurs city review of log on protesters By Sean Kelly Denver Post Staff Writer Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - Denver police have been keeping secret spy files on local activists and protest groups, the American Civil Liberties Union said Monday, prompting Mayor Wellington Webb to call for a review of department procedure. The ACLU of Colorado produced copies of two police records documenting protesters at recent demonstrations held by groups such as Amnesty International and the Justice for Mena Committee. Keeping such records could have a chilling effect on peaceful protests, said Mark Silverstein, legal director of the local chapter. The group called on the city to end the practice and open the files to public scrutiny. The ACLU may file a lawsuit if the surveillance continues, he said. It's our position that people in Denver should feel free to peacefully protest and to peacefully express their views, said Silverstein, who would not divulge how his group obtained the records. The Constitution protects those rights. Webb believes they raise some very legitimate issues, said his spokesman, Andrew Hudson. He was unaware these intelligence files were being kept and he wants more information from the Police Department to explain how those types of files are being used. C.L. Harmer, spokeswoman for Manager of Safety Ari Zavaras, said the files are kept for a maximum of five years and are considered highly confidential raw data only available to the intelligence division - not patrol or traffic officers. She could not say how many total files exist. It's not the police's intent to dampen free speech or lawful political activity, Harmer said. You shouldn't be concerned as long as you're being lawful. But if you engage in civil disobedience, the consequences are that you may be arrested. Police Chief Gerry Whitman is out of the office this week. His two immediate predecessors, retired Chief David Michaud and Capt. Tom Sanchez, said these files were not kept on their watch. There was no concerted effort to keep track of who was at protests, said Michaud, who retired in 1998. (Police) are there to monitor and look for law violations. We have no business keeping tabs, and we didn't do that. You shouldn't be keeping dossiers on law-abiding citizens, agreed Sanchez, whom Whitman replaced in 2000. Representatives from the mayor's office met with Deputy Chief Dave Abrams on Monday. Webb will ask police exactly how long they've been keeping files. We don't know if they go back five years or 40 years, Hudson said. Quite frankly, it will be interesting to see if there's a file on Mayor Webb. For Webb, it's a personal matter. In 1977, an FBI informant admitted he had spied on then- U.S. Rep. Pat Schroeder and other Colorado politicians, including Webb, then a state representative. Monday, Silverstein demanded Webb put a stop to the surveillance. He also called for public disclosure of the files and notification of anyone listed in them. The files should be preserved, he said, because they may become evidence in an upcoming suit. Stephen Nash, a well-known activist who has participated in demonstrations with Amnesty International, the Justice for Mena Committee and other groups, is the subject of one report. In the report, police say Nash was seen at a Justice for Mena rally and anti- Columbus Day protest. It also lists his wife, his cars and his address. Two groups to which he belongs - the American Friends Service Committee and End the Politics of Cruelty - are classified as Criminal Extremist. Nash angrily denied that label - he has a clean criminal record - and said the police tactics belong in a Third World country. The police are operating their own political agenda when they're supposed to be an agency of the city, he said. Another group, the Chiapas Coalition, which protests human rights violations of indigenous people in Mexico, publicized its file. Members of the group were arrested for disrupting a 1999 luncheon featuring Gov. Bill Owens, but none was convicted. Spokesman Kerry Appel, however, said that is no reason for the authorities to keep spy files on the group. I am already convinced in my heart it is a violation of our rights, Appel said. Hispanic activist Nita Gonzales said the files harken back to COINTELPRO, the FBI's infamous surveillance and disruption of protest groups that ended after coming to light in the 1970s. Gonzales said she recently was told by Zavaras and Whitman that no such files exist in Denver. She said she will push the city's leaders to enact a municipal ordinance banning the practice. Everyone in the files should be frightened, she said. You're profiled already. It puts you in danger and at riGonzales said. Silverstein cited municipal laws in San Francisco, Seattle and Portland, Ore., that
[CTRL] More Leanky Nukies
-Caveat Lector- @ http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Site=TODate=20020312Categor y=NEWS17ArtNo=103120042Ref=AR This is a printer friendly version of an article from www.toledoblade.com ©2001 The Blade. Privacy and Security Statement. By using this service, you accept the terms of our visitor agreement: Please read it. To print this article open the file menu and choose Print. Back to: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ article?Site=TODate=20020312Category=NEWS17ArtNo=103120042Ref=AR Article published March 12, 2002 Boric acid leak eats 6-inch hole in cap of Davis-Besse reactor By TOM HENRY BLADE STAFF WRITER OAK HARBOR - FirstEnergy Corp.'s Davis-Besse nuclear plant became the focus of a national investigation yesterday after officials learned that acid from the plant's reactor ate a half-foot chunk out of a steel cap that covers the vessel. Described by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the utility as the most extensive corrosion ever found on top of an American nuclear plant reactor, the radioactive boric acid came within a half-inch of burning a hole through the huge vessel head - a domelike structure that is 17 feet wide and made primarily of two types of steel. Remainder of story at site ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MidEast Fracas, Free-For-All, Rumble, Donnybrook
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=140911contrassID=1su bContrassID=0sbSubContrassID=0 }}}Begin w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m Two Israelis stabbed in attack on settlement near Ramallah Two Israelis were wounded Wednesday evening, one critically, in a stabbing attack in the West Bank settlement of Nahliel, north of Ramallah. The other victims suffered moderate injuries. The two were airlifted by helicopter to Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer for treatment. Israel Radio reported that IDF troops were searching the area for two perpetrators of the attack, who fled the scene after the stabbing. It also said that residents of the settlement had been ordered to stay inside their homes. IDF soldier dies of wounds sustained in Ramallah gunbattle Lieutenant Gil Badihi, 21, from Nataf, died Wednesday afternoon in Hadassah University Hospital, Ein Karem of head injuries sustained earlier in the day during a gunbattle in the neighborhood of A-Tira in the West Bank city of Ramallah. Also Wednesday, an Italian freelance journalist was killed by IDF tank fire in Ramallah, Palestinian hospital officials and witnesses said. Photographer Rafael Ciriello, 42, on assignment for the Italian daily Courier della Sera, had worked in many of the world's hot spots. He was shot six times in the chest while covering the IDF takeover of Ramallah and is believed to be the first journalist killed in the year and a half of intense Israeli-Palestinian fighting. A witness to the fatal shooting, fellow journalist Amide Rococo, said he and his colleague were following Palestinian gunmen through the center of Ramallah at about 9:30 A.M. (07:30 GMT) when an IDF tank appeared from around the corner. He said soldiers on the tank fired a machine gun from about 150 meters (yards) without warning, striking Ciriello in the stomach. Doctors said he was hit six times in the abdomen. Rococo and another colleague, both of whom work for Italian television Rae No, were not hurt. Suddenly a tank appeared from a corner and it opened fire, Rococo said. There was no fighting in the area. In an interview with Rae TV, Rococo said in hindsight it appeared the Palestinian gunmen they saw earlier were signaling the arrival of the Israelis. He also added that after the burst of machine gunfire from the tank, he saw that an armed Palestinian had come out from behind the corner. The IDF, which tightened its grip on Ramallah on Wednesday against the backdrop of daily Palestinian attacks in Israel, said it did not know the circumstances of Ciriello's death and had opened an investigation. There has been cross fire for several days, said IDF spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Olivier Rafowicz. We are not rushing to conclusions. It is important to remember that there have been exchanges of fire in Ramallah, and that this was the reason the army closed off the area to journalists yesterday, Rafowicz said. The French photographer, known to colleagues only by his first name, was hit by shrapnel while working with colleagues near Manara Square, not far from where Ciriello was killed an hour earlier. The journalists saw a Palestinian gunman firing down a street, when suddenly a bomb went off near the gunman, sending shrapnel flying, said Benjamin Lazily, a French photographer present. Palestinian gunmen often plant small bombs in the streets intended for IDF tanks. In a third incident, a 35-year-old Egyptian TV correspondent, Tare Abel Jabber, said IDF soldiers fired at least five shots at his car, clearly marked with big TV signs, when he and a cameraman were driving in Ramallah. Jabber said one bullet struck him in the right side, but was stopped by a flak jacket. Abu Fadi, deputy commander in Ramallah for Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat's Force 17 elite guard, was killed in new fighting, Palestinian security sources said. They gave no details. At least one other Palestinian was said to have been killed Wednesday in the fighting, which has claimed dozens of Palestinian lives in the West Bank and Gaza this week. Ramallah, to which Arafat was confined by Israeli decree since December, was taken over by IDF troops in a large-scale operation over the past few days. Two wounded in Wadi Ara shooting attack A gunman opened fire overnight Tuesday on a convoy of cars driving to the Israeli town of Katzir, just inside the Green Line border with the West Bank, wounding two Israelis. The town is in the Wadi Ara area, a predominately Israeli Arab area close to Palestinian villages in the West Bank. Police said footprints led from the site of the attack to across the Green Line to a Palestinian town. One of the wounded was in moderate to serious condition while the other sustained light injuries. The gunman apparently shot at cars heading toward the settlement from a water tower. Security forces end search for terrorists in northern attack Security forces Wednesday ended their search for possible
[CTRL] Better Dying Through Chemistry
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Study Assesses Risk of Attack on Chemical Plant
By Eric Pianin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 12, 2002; Page A08
A previously undisclosed study by the Army surgeon general concludes that as many
as 2.4 million people could be killed or injured in a terrorist attack against a U.S.
toxic
chemical plant in a densely populated area.
The medical hazard threat assessment, completed less than a month after the Sept.
11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, suggests that terrorist assaults on
chemical industry complexes could result in twice as many casualties as previously
assumed in other worst-case scenarios envisioned by the government.
Even middle-range casualty estimates from a chemical weapons attack or explosion
of a toxic chemical manufacturing plant are as high as 903,400 people, according to
the analysis, a copy of which was obtained yesterday by The Washington Post.
Lyn Kukral, a spokeswoman for the Army's office of the surgeon general, said the
data were meant to be more illustrative than a precise casualty projection. But
officials used the casualty estimates during an internal government conference last
fall to plan medical responses to a broad range of terrorist scenarios.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks, lawmakers, federal officials and environmental groups
have repeatedly warned the chemical industry that terror attacks could turn
hazardous-materials plants into weapons of mass destruction. Industry officials say
they have instituted important safeguards, but critics say much more is needed.
Yesterday, the Natural Resources Defense Council, a 400,000-member advocacy
group, filed a lawsuit in federal court charging that the Justice Department has failed
to submit a report to Congress on U.S. chemical plants' vulnerability to terrorist
attacks, as required by an amendment to the Clean Air Act.
The Justice Department missed an August 2000 deadline for filing an interim report,
and Bush administration officials have notified Congress that they will not meet an
Aug. 5 deadline for the final report because of inadequate funding.
Chemical plants are an incredibly urgent priority for homeland security, but they are
being ignored at the highest levels of government, said Rena Steinzor, an attorney
at NRDC.
A Justice Department spokesman said yesterday that officials have not seen the suit
and were withholding comment.
Reps. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.) and Frank Pallone Jr. (D-N.J.), senior members of
the Committee on Energy and Commerce, recently asked the General Accounting
Office to conduct a detailed review of chemical manufacturing plants'preparedness
for acts of terrorism.
According to an analysis last year by the Environmental Protection Agency, at least
123U.S. plants each keep amounts of toxic chemicals that, if released, could form
deadly vapor clouds that would endanger more than 1 million people.
The Army surgeon general's analysis, dated Oct. 29, showed that attacks on toxic
chemical plants or chemical stockpiles could produce more than twice as many
casualties. The study ranked the threat of attacks against chemical plants second
only to the widespread use of biological weapons, such as the introduction of a
smallpox virus or contamination of the country's water or food supply, which could
generate as many as 4.18 million casualties.
The study did not assess the potential casualties from a nuclear attack.
The U.S. Public Interest Research Group and other environmental groups have
called for legislation to require operators of chemical facilities to reduce the
quantities
of hazardous chemicals stored at their sites or switch to safer materials.
The American Chemistry Council, an industry group, issued guidelines last fall
suggesting ways to improve physical security at facilities and protect the
transportation of hazardous materials. The council recently decided to require its
members to complete security studies and make necessary changes, using a
framework developed by the Justice Department.
Chris VandenHeuvel, a spokesman for the council, said the industry remains one of
the safest manufacturing sectors in America and is doing everything feasible to
make the facilities as safe and secure as possible.
Staff writer Bill Miller contributed to this report.
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Annan blasts Israel's 'illegal occupation'
By Melissa Radler
March, 13 2002
UNITED NATIONS (March 13) - UN Secretary General Kofi Annan yesterday blasted
Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and warned that continued
IDF military action against the Palestinians is breeding more terrorism.
In an address to the UN Security Council followed by closed consultations on the
situation in the Middle East, including the Palestinian question, Annan pleaded with
both sides to halt the violence that he said has claimed more than 1,200 Palestinian
and 350 Israeli lives, including 230 in the past 10 days.
He described the current level of violence in the Middle East as horrifying and
called on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser
Arafat to lead your peoples away from disaster.
Annan took Israel to task for its increasing use of heavy weaponry... in civilian
areas, including combat helicopters, tanks, and F-16s, and he demanded that Israel
stop the bombing of civilian areas, the assassinations, the unnecessary use of lethal
force, the demolitions, and the daily humiliation of ordinary Palestinians.
Such actions gravely erode Israel's standing in the international community and
further fuel the fires of hatred, despair, and extremism among Palestinians, he said.
He insisted that Israel end the illegal occupation, thus marking the first time he
has
termed Israel's presence in the West Bank and Gaza as illegal, said Annan's
spokesman, Fred Eckhard, after the meeting.
The Palestinians, said Annan, have played their full part in escalating the cycle of
violence, and he said he was particularly disturbed by suicide attacks, which
deliberately target civilians, spreading fear and anxiety throughout the general
population.
The continuation of such attacks is making Israelis believe that it is their existence
as a state, and not the occupation, that is being opposed, he said.
You must stop all acts of terror and all suicide bombings, said Annan, a phrase that
one Israeli official said could be interpreted to mean that not all suicide bombings
are
necessarily acts of terrorism.
Diplomatic sources in Jerusalem responded to Annan's speech with four questions:
Why is his voice not heard when children and babies are murdered by Palestinian
brutality; does he know that between 1948 and 1967 when there was no occupation,
there already was Palestinian terror; does he know that when former prime minister
Ehud Barak offered to end the occupation, the Palestinians responded with a terror
campaign; does he think that with this vicious attack on Israel, he can ever be an
honest broker?
Citing the Mitchell and Tenet proposals as the basis for negotiations, Annan
praised Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah's peace initiative, the terms of which have not
yet been made public, as a clear and compelling vision for peace in the Middle
East. He also lauded US envoy Anthony Zinni's upcoming visit to the region.
When asked how the PA plans to rein in suicide bombers, Palestinian representative
to the UN Nasser Kidwa said after the meeting that the PA is not bound to stop such
attacks until Israel halts all military action against the Palestinians.
While the Israeli aggression is going on, it's a hopeless case and [we] cannot, we
should not take any actions against any Palestinians under such circumstances, he
said.
Kidwa also announced that the 22-member Arab League plans to draw up a new
draft resolution, to be introduced into the Security Council as soon as possible. He
said that a provision calling for international monitors to be sent to the region in a
February 20 Arab League resolution would most likely be dropped. The resolution
was never formally introduced into the council due to concern that the US would veto
it.
Israeli Ambassador to the UN Yehuda Lancry warned that a Security Council
resolution that criticizes Israel and does not speak of Palestinian terror... will
only
lead to a biased position. Such a position will not help the situation on the ground,
he said.
(Gil Hoffman contributed to this report.)
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[CTRL] Up In Flames
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Toronto synagogue deliberately torched
By CP
TORONTO -- One of Toronto's oldest synagogues was broken into early yesterday
and set ablaze, angering the Jewish community, which regarded the building as a
landmark in its history.
It appears that there was a forced entry and a case of arson, Sgt. Ralph Brookes
said of the fire at Anshei Minsk synagogue, the only downtown synagogue that is fully
orthodox and provides daily prayer services.
Police and fire investigators were working with members of the congregation to
determine who might have set the fire and the extent of damage caused to the
building.
The fire was believed to have started on the second floor. It left the structure
intact,
but caused extensive smoke damage.
Charred religious texts and papers drenched by firehoses spilled from the
synagogue's main doors and down the front steps to the street.
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Then accept it and live up to it.
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-Caveat Lector- Was there EVER *any* doubt? Regard$, --MJ I like seeing Sumo wrestlers. They make me feel like I am not so overweight, after all. -- Thomas Sowell A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Senator Byrd: Why Congress Has to Ask Questions
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/12/opinion/12BYRD.html Senator Byrd: Why Congress Has to Ask Questions By ROBERT C. BYRD March 12, 2002 WASHINGTON - Do members of Congress have any business questioning a president's military strategy in the midst of war? That was the question swirling around Capitol Hill last week. In the heat of debate, some went so far as to insinuate that any questioning of a wartime president is divisive and unpatriotic. What dangerous nonsense this is. Congress not only has the right to question a president's policies, but also the duty. In a war, the American people have every right to a full accounting of what their sons and daughters are fighting for and what their government expects to achieve. To question is not to accuse or to condemn. To question is to seek the truth. The less forthcoming a president is, the more Congress will have to probe for answers. Such is the current situation. In the wake of Sept. 11, President Bush declared all-out war on terrorism. Money is no object; time is no deterrent. We will win this war, the president vowed. We will hunt down and destroy the terrorists. Those words constitute a sweeping manifesto. I support the president's commitment, but as a senator, I have a responsibility to look beyond the rhetoric. How will we win this war? What are the costs? What are our objectives? What are the standards by which we measure victory? How long will we be in Afghanistan? Where else will we go? The Constitution states that the president shall be commander in chief, but it is Congress that has the constitutional authority to provide for the common defense and general welfare, to raise and support armies, and to declare war. In other words, Congress has a constitutional responsibility to weigh in on war-related policy decisions. Yet in this war on terrorism, Congress, by and large, has been left to learn about major war-related decisions through newspaper articles. One day we hear that American military advisers are heading to the Philippines. Another day we read that military personnel may go into the former Soviet republic of Georgia. The next day we are sending advisers into Yemen. And, oh yes, we also learn from news reports that we have a shadow government in our own backyard, composed of unknown bureaucrats, up and running at undisclosed locations, for an indeterminate length of time. Is it any wonder that members of Congress are beginning to question whether the administration is deliberately leaving Congress in the dark - or whether the administration is making major policy decisions on the fly, without taking time for due consideration or consultation? Neither scenario is comforting. And while the administration has started to meet with some members of Congress, it appears to be more in reaction to criticism than in genuine cooperation and consultation. Last Wednesday, the remains of seven American servicemen killed in combat in Afghanistan were brought home to Dover Air Force Base. The ceremony was a somber and chilling reminder of what is involved in prosecuting America's war on terror. It was a reminder that the waging of war is not merely a matter of political debate. It is a matter of guns and bullets and bombs and bloodshed. It is a matter of committing our sons and daughters to a life-and-death struggle. The loss of American lives in Afghanistan requires that we question the president's wartime policies, no matter how uncomfortable the questioning may be. We owe that to the Americans who have died, and who will die, in the course of what may be a long and murky war. Robert C. Byrd is a Democratic senator for West Virginia. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [pr-x] Petition/Ariel Sharon (fwd)
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[CTRL] Fw: War Criminal Solana Arrives In Belgrade
http://www.irna.com/en/world/020313090912.ewo.shtml Solana to hold talks in Belgrade Brussels, March 13, IRNA -- Javier Solana, the EU High Representative for Common Foreign and Security Policy, will visit Belgrade on Wednesday for talks with Yugoslav officials. He will hold talks with the President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Vojislav Kostunica, the President of Montenegro Milo Djukanovic and other political leaders in the framework of the dialogue on the future of the Federation, said a press release issued by Solana's office Tuesday night. NK/LS
[CTRL] Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general20/cc.htm Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails By William Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3-4-2 VANCOUVER, Canada - As continuing chemtrail activity culminated in massive aerial spraying over Vancouver Island and Washington state yesterday- and broadening plumes once again fanned out to haze clear blue skies - Air Traffic Controllers at major airports across the United States expressed concern over the emissions constantly showing up on their radar screens. 'Chemtrails' is the term widely used to describe the brilliant white trails laid down by U.S. Air Force tanker planes photo- identified over North America and a dozen other allied nations in a process the U.S. Air Force calls 'aerial obscuration'. First confirmed by Airport Authority Terry Stewart at the Victoria International Airport on Dec. 8, 2000 as a 'joint Canada- U.S. military operation' and stridently denied by senior officers at Canadian Forces Base (where Stewart later told the Vancouver Courier he had received his information) - these multi-plane missions were verified in March, 2001 by the Air Traffic Control (ATC) manager for the northeastern seaboard of the United States. In three taped interviews with this reporter and veteran radio journalist S.T. Brendt, our 'Deep Sky' source said that he had been ordered to divert incoming commercial flights away from USAF tankers spraying s substance that showed up on ATC radars as a 'haze'. These radar returns are the signature of the fine aluminum particles found in laboratory tests of chemtrail-contaminated rain taken in Espanola, Ontario in the summer of 1999. The lab analysis found reflective quartz particles in the chemtrail fallout - and levels of aluminum FIVE TIMES higher than Ontario's maximum permissible health safety standards. After NDP Defense critic Gordon Earle presented a petition signed by 550 Espanola residents to Parliament in November, 1999 demanding an end to aerial spraying by commercial or military aircraft, foreign or domestic, which appeared to be making many people sick, DND eventually replied, It's not us. The aluminum found in chemtrails over Ontario matches the 10 micron aluminum oxide called for in a 1994 patent issued to Hughes Aircraft Company. 'Welsbach Seeding for Reduction of Global Warming' refers to spreading highly reflective materials in the atmosphere to reflect enough incoming sunlight (1 to 2%) to slow rapidly-accelerating global warming. Edward Teller, father of the H-bomb, called for this billion dollar a year 'sky shield' program after computer simulations at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory showed it would prevent warming over 85% of the planet's surface despite a predicted doubling of heat-trapping C02 in the atmosphere over the next 40 years. But Ken Caldeira - the climate expert who ran the computer model - has warned that the stratospheric spraying of sunlight- reflecting chemicals could 'destroy the ozone layer' and pose human health risks. CONTROLLERS CONCERNED ACROSS U.S. Starting last December, on heavy 'spray days' Deep Sky began calling companion controllers across the country. Were they seeing the same thing on their scopes? What were they being told? In a fourth interview with reporter S.T. Brendt last week, Deep Sky stated that Air Traffic Controllers at Chicago's O'Hare airport, all three major airports in New York, Los Angeles LAX, San Francisco, Atlanta, Cleveland, San Diego, Washington DC's Dulles and Jacksonville, Florida were being
[CTRL] U.N. Council affirms 'vision' of Palestinian state
Title: U.N. Council affirms 'vision' of Palestinian state U.N. Council affirms 'vision' of Palestinian state March 13, 2002 Posted: 1:23 AM EST (0623 GMT) UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- The U.N. Security Council late Tuesday approved a U.S.-sponsored resolution that affirms a vision of a Palestinian state. The resolution described a vision of a region where two States, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders. In the 15-member council, there were no votes against the resolution, with Syria offering the only abstention. The resolution: * Demands immediate cessation of all acts of violence, including all acts of terror, provocation, incitement and destruction. * Calls upon the Israeli and Palestinian sides and their leaders to cooperate in the implementation of the Tenet work plan and Mitchell Report recommendations with the aim of resuming negotiations on a political settlement. * Expresses support for the efforts of the Secretary-General and others to assist the parties to halt the violence and resume the peace process. We advanced this resolution to assist them and those who are trying to help them in the region, said John Negroponte, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. It is the first time the United States has voted for a resolution that includes language regarding a Palestinian state, although both President Bush and Secretary of State Colin Powell have described their vision of a future that includes a Palestinian state. The president endorsed a Palestinian state during his speech to the U.N. General Assembly in November 2001. The approval of the resolution Tuesday night was deemed an important and significant vote by Nasser Al-Kidwa, the Palestinian U.N. observer, something with which we can build on in the future. Israeli Ambassador to the U.N. Yehuda Lancry called it a balanced resolution and quite a novelty. Past draft resolutions have often included harsh language regarding Israel's handling of the Palestinian territories. In explaining his nation's abstention, Mikhail Wehbe, Syria's U.N. ambassador, said the U.S. resolution failed to address Arab concerns about the treatment of Palestinians. It does not deal with the question in its roots -- the roots of the question being the Israeli occupation, he said. The draft treats the killer and victim on equal -- We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. President John F. Kennedy
Re: [CTRL] Holocaust Survivor Outraged At Israel's Nazi Tactics
-Caveat Lector- Oi Vey I woz only followeeng orders ??? numbers on the wrist, machine guns in the ghettos, house arrest, non burial of dead, random sniping, demolition of buildings, doctors shot, water cut off - Why don't we get Spielberg to make a 3rd millennium sequel to SCHINDLERS LIST - maybe the western media can put the PAL back into PALESTINE ?? andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rosie: 'I Am Gay Parent'; Invites Bush to Spend Weekend :-)
In a message dated 3/13/02 3:27:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was there EVER *any* doubt? I'd assume that the "closet" just gained quite a bit of breathing room! Bill.
[CTRL] Slaves Of The United Nations:Their Most Dangerous Meeting Ever!
http://www.toogoodreports.com/column/general/caruba/20020313.htm Slaves Of The United Nations: Their Most Dangerous Meeting Ever! By Alan Caruba Next week, March 18 through March 21, is going to determine whether liberty continues to exist in the world or whether everyone will fall pray to the schemes of the United Nations to become a one-world government imposing a New World Order. My friend, Henry Lamb, the chairman of Sovereignty International, recently wrote about the similarities between Hitler´s mad dreams of global dominance and the United Nations´ careful, slow creep and crawl toward the same goal. In the end, just as the United States and its allies put an end to Herr Hitler´s villainy, the US remains the only power on Earth capable of ending the nightmare of enslavement by the global government plotters and schemers in the United Nations. To make the bad news worse, President Bush will be among the more than fifty world leaders who will attend the event. Will he sign off on this most dangerous threat to our national sovereignty? Consider the list of world conferences the United Nations has sponsored in just the passed decade. Conferences on children (1990); on the environment (1992); on human rights (1993); on global governance (1993 1995); on world trade (1994); on world population (1994); on social development (1995); on sustainable development (1995); on women (1995); on human habitats (1996); on global warming (1996); on the International Criminal court (1998); and its Millennium Assembly and Summit in 2000. There was an aborted conference on racial prejudice in 2001 that was so filled with hatred it swiftly sank into the mire of its own hypocrisy. Let me borrow a sentence from the Declaration of Independence, by action of the Second Continental Congress, July 4, 1776: "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." The United States fought the War of Independence over the issue of "taxation without representation." Who represents you at the United Nations? A single appointed ambassador! With one vote in the General Assembly! Next week, in Monterey, Mexico, the UN High Level Panel of Financing Development will meet. The United Nations was set up to be financed by dues from its member states, but the UN has been cautiously working toward becoming financially independent of its own members by imposing a series of taxes that would increase its income by trillions. These taxes would include those on international and other air transportation, the use of all coal, oil and natural gas, taxes on all currency transactions, and a dozen others they have lined up such as taxes on weapons exports, the Internet, and who knows what else? The UN Conference in Mexico will propose consolidating all international financial and development institutions under its control. If the UN were to control which nations receive development funding and which do not, it will have a total chokehold on the future over every nation. It will even propose that immigrants will have to pay taxes not only to their new nation of residence, but the one from which they may well have fled! With trillions, the cabal that runs the United Nations would no longer have to take notice of the United States or any other nation. It would soon be putting together its own vast military force capable of invading any nation to impose its will. The UN already has an International Court that already claims jurisdiction over every nation and its citizens, even if that nation is not a signatory to the conference that created it. What is at stake here is the prospect of raw, unlimited power in the hands of people who are not elected by anyone other than themselves, if they can get their hands on the money to achieve this goal! Who would support such an obscenity? How about former President Clinton´s Deputy Secretary of State, Strobe Talbot, who said, "Nationhood as we know it will be obsolete, all states will recognize a single, global authority, and national sovereignty wasn´t such a great idea after all." Multiply Talbot by the unknown, countless people in Congress and elsewhere throughout our government, along with others ranging from openly communist or socialist organizations to so-called environmental organizations, the people who run multinational corporations who see profit signs if there are no borders or restraints, the mysterious clique who run some of nation´s wealthiest foundations, and all the others who see themselves acquiring power and wealth under the aegis of the United Nations. No single event occurring in the world during the second week of March 2002 has the importance of this United Nations conference. Unless its goals are utterly defeated, the rights of the
[CTRL] Dirty Tricks, Inc.:The DynCorp-Government Connection
http://www.conspiracydigest.com/dirtytricks.html Dirty Tricks, Inc.: The DynCorp-Government Connection by Uri Dowbenko Organized White-Collar Crime is the absolute essence of Mega-Corporate-Government Business. As Jim Hougan wrote in his landmark book, Spooks: The Haunting of America - The Private Use of Secret Agents, "With their cultural and career investments in upholding the stereotype of the Mafia as the vehicle of organized crime, the public and the press have generally failed to grasp the felonious nature of the outfit's WASP counterparts on the Big Board. Whereas some petty hoodlums put out contracts on individuals, the multinationals have begun to place contracts on entire countries (for example, ITT versus Chile). With that difference, their operational styles are similar: offshore laundries used to wash bribes paid in clandestine support of a sales effort designed to create and satisfy the potentially lethal addictions of their would be customers. Whether the product is heroin or Starfighter jets, the result is often the same: profits that corrupt and impoverish… In short it appears that some multinationals had evolved into genuinely criminal enterprises." (p. 441) Likewise, outsourcing State Terrorism is the fastest growing segment of the US Government market. In fact, white-collar criminal activities, like Federal IT, or Information Technology, which involves "privatizing" the financial database management of government agencies, accounts for some of the most lucrative contracts available anywhere on earth. The practice of privatizing (using private companies for government work) has been long exploited by the CIA and the Pentagon, who like to use proxies, like contractors or mercenaries, to fight their covert wars. The benefits for federal agencies include "plausible deniability" with respect to assassination and drug trafficking, as well as the ability to bypass the Military Code of Honor and the accords of the Geneva Convention, which hold "official" combatants to a different standard. In other words, by privatizing "dirty tricks," a federal agency cannot be held liable to the standards one would expect of, well, the US Government. Acting as one of the US Government's primary privatized Dirty Tricks Divisions, DynCorp has become one of the leading prime federal contractors, reaping a global harvest of shame and disgrace. The Murky Origins of DynCorp And where did DynCorp come from? In the apocryphal story, DynCorp began as an Air Force contractor in 1954. Since then, however it has garnered a reputation as a shadowy company with a spooky pedigree, rumored to be a CIA "cutout," or front company, for the Agency's dirty tricks. Using high-level government insider connections, DynCorp provides a range of "services" one would expect to facilitate fraud and money laundry activities, acting like a virtual conduit between the corporate (private) and government (public) worlds. According to DynCorp, the US Government is its biggest client, accounting for more than 95% of its revenues. After it gobbled up GTE Information Services LLC in 1999, DynCorp has become one of the nation's largest Federal contractors for IT, or Information Technology, services. Along with Lockheed Martin, SAIC, AMS, and others, DynCorp contracts with federal government agencies to "manage" federal databases. Dyncorp's clients include the Drug Enforcement Agency, the Department of Defense, Department of State, Department of Justice, Internal Revenue Service, Securities and Exchange Commission, FBI, CIA, and HUD -- all government agencies notorious for rampant, unchecked and egregious fraud. For example, the Pentagon cannot account for a mind-boggling $2.3 trillion. In fact, at Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's confirmation hearing in January 2001, Sen. Robert Byrd wondered aloud, "How can we seriously consider a $50 billion dollar increase in the Defense Department's budget when the DoD's own auditors cannot account for $2.3 trillion in transactions?" After September 11, of course, fresh fraud at DoD will become virtually limitless because of the new "War on Terrorism," a black hole of a boondoggle that may surpass even the "Cold War" in Pentagon corruption, waste and malfeasance. Meanwhile, HUD cannot account for $59 billion, according to the testimony of former HUD Inspector General Susan Gaffney. (See "Why Is $59 Billion Missing from HUD?" by Kelly O'Meara, Insight Magazine) Coincidentally, that was the year that "HUD Taps DynCorp for Services," according to a Washington Post headline from August 2, 1999, describing a new $51 million contract to provide desktop services to the Office of Inspector General at Housing and Urban Development. Even more sinister is the fact that DynCorp manages email and information systems for many federal investigation agencies like FBI, DOJ and SEC. What does
[CTRL] Denver Police Keeping Illegal Files
-Caveat Lector- from - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020312/ap_on_re_us/polic e_surveillance_1 Denver Police Keeping Illegal Files Tue Mar 12,11:09 AM ET By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer DENVER (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) has accused the Denver Police Department of keeping illegal files on peaceful protest groups including Amnesty International and the Nobel Peace Prize-winning American Friends Service Committee. The ACLU's Colorado legal director, Mark Silverstein, showed reporters files he said came from the police department. Silverstein wouldn't say how he obtained the files. He said they were marked as permanent, not simply reports that would be discarded at the end of the day. These are a small sampling of documents we have that show Denver police are monitoring peaceful protest activities of individuals and law-abiding groups, he said at a news conference Monday. The ACLU has asked the mayor to stop all monitoring, make all files available to their subjects and have police disclose who has been given the information, Silverstein said. He threatened to sue if the practice (news - Y! TV) isn't stopped. Andrew Hudson, spokesman for Mayor Wellington Webb, said Webb had asked police for a full report to answer the group's concerns. The mayor thinks their concerns are legitimate, Hudson said. Denver Public Safety Department spokeswoman C.L. Harmer said police would comply with the mayor's request. Stephen B. Nash, who was identified in one of the files as an event organizer for Amnesty International, said police could not say the files were needed for security because of the Sept. 11 attacks. My file goes back to 2000, well before Sept. 11, Nash said. The American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker group, acts in the best tradition of nonviolence, said Barry Leaman-Miller, who was identified in one file as a member of the American Friends Service Committee (criminal extremist G). There was no immediate explanation for the criminal extremist note. Harmer said people named in the files were not considered criminals and the files were collected because legal gatherings are sometimes the scene of illegal actions. Law-abiding groups sponsoring lawful assemblies can be unwitting magnets for unlawful activity, she said. If you go to a peaceful demonstration, is your name going to come up when you get a traffic ticket? The answer is no, because the data isn't shared, she said. I don't think this is a retreat to the era of J. Edgar Hoover. Harmer said that although the intelligence-gathering started before the terrorist attacks, the attacks illustrated the need for such files. Among the events mentioned in the files were a protest of an Italian-led parade honoring Columbus, protests of a killing by a police SWAT team that went to the wrong house, protests against the International Monetary Fund (news - web sites) and World Bank (news - web sites), and demonstrations by the Chiapas Coalition against alleged civil rights violations in Mexico's poorest state. This is really outrageous to me ... since Sept. 11 immigration equals terrorism, said Luis Espinosa, a member of the Chiapas group. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE 'URBAN MYTH' GAMBIT:Apologists 'spin' Israel's spy operation in the US
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j031302.html March 13, 2002 THE 'URBAN MYTH' GAMBIT Apologists 'spin' Israel's spy operation in the US There is growing evidence that, prior to 9/11, a rather impressive Israeli spy network in the US went into overdrive and launched a concerted effort to penetrate US law enforcement and military facilities: a recent flurry of news stories on the subject provoked an angry reaction from Israel's apologists, who are loudly and insistently denying it. The denialists range from the Justice Department, whose spokesperson derided the widely-reported story as "an urban myth," to Daniel Pipes, the chief ideologue of anti-Arabism in the US, whose op ed for the New York Post this morning [March 11] is, er, rather odd…. DO YOU HAVE TO ASK? To begin with, the title asks a question the obvious answer to which contradicts the article's thesis: "An Israeli spy network in the United States?" After Jonathan Pollard's arrest and imprisonment, is this a question that even needs to be asked? Only the terminally naïve believe that our wonderful allies don't spy on us – and, in the case of the Israelis, you can bet they're doing a good job of it. THE BITTER TEARS OF JONATHAN POLLARD The official response of the Israeli consulate to the allegations – "Israel does not spy on the United States of America" – must've provoked gales of bitter laughter from the federal prison in Butner, N.C., where Pollard is serving a life sentence, and yet Pipes expects us to believe just that. His piece merely reiterates the allegations without refuting them – and without acknowledging the accumulating body of evidence. A disparaging tone is enough, he apparently believes, to dispel the cloud of suspicion that has hung over Israel since the first stories about a massive round-up of Israelis in the US began to appear last year. "American journalists," Pipes avers, "found not a shred of evidence to support the claim. More important, it met with wall-to-wall derision from the U.S. and Israeli governments." More important, that is, as far as Mr. Pipes is concerned. After all, governments don't lie, especially about intelligence matters – right? Discounted by Pipes as legitimate evidence is a four-part series broadcast by Fox News last December that cited law enforcement sources – albeit anonymous – testifying to the existence of "a vast Israeli spy operation in the US." Also discounted is Le Monde, France's leading daily: "Le Monde's account - with its crazy-quilt of unsourced allegations, drive-by innuendoes, and incoherent obscurities, but no hard facts - is nonsense." JUST THE FACTS, PLEASE Here are a few of the facts that Pipes cannot be bothered to mention: *that the US government's National Counterintelligence Center put out an alert in March 2001 warning of persistent attempts by individuals identifying themselves as "art students" from Israel to penetrate US government facilities, *that as many as 200 were arrested in the months prior to and after 9/11, that the majority of these were members of the Israeli army's intelligence and counter-terrorism unit, ^that some failed polygraph tests when asked if they were engaged in surveillance activities against the US, *and that fully one-third lived within shouting distance of Hollywood, Florida, the 9/11 hijackers' base. CHANGING THE SUBJECT But none of the above will satisfy or even interest Pipes. He doesn't deign to address any of these issues, and instead spends a lot of space changing the subject. He mentions Gary Sick's "October surprise" allegations about Ronald Reagan, attacks CNN's controversial "Valley of Death" documentary, and rattles on about authors Gordon Thomas and Victor Ostrovsky – none of which have anything to do with the charge that the Israelis, as Carl Cameron of Fox News put it, "may have gathered intelligence about the [9/11] attacks in advance, and not shared it." When it comes to the issue of Israeli undercover activities in the US, that country's legions of professional apologists automatically go into their "deny, deny, deny" mode, and smear anyone who dares to ask a few questions. MORE TRUTH COMES OUT Certainly these people will be unimpressed by the latest revelations, detailed in an article written by Paul Rodriguez for Insight – a magazine published by the Washington Times, editorially a staunch supporter of Israel. For the rest of us, however, Rodriguez's effort to get at the truth, regardless of politics, provides yet another fascinating window into the underground world of Israeli covert action in America. He provides us with a few more "hard facts" – hard enough so that Pipes and his compadres will soon have to come up with a better "spin" than the "urban myth" gambit. LIVING FOR THEIR ART Citing internal DEA documents and unnamed senior federal officials, Rodriguez basically confirms the thesis first pursued in this space [11/28/01], and also (a few weeks later) by Carl Cameron: that, starting last
[CTRL] Magazine: Osama's Wife (?) Interviewed
-Caveat Lector- from - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020313/ap_on_re_mi_ea/at tacks_bin_laden_s_wife_3 Magazine: Osama's Wife Interviewed Tue Mar 12, 7:55 PM ET By MAAMOUN YOUSSEF, Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt - A woman claiming to be a wife of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) is quoted by a Saudi magazine as saying he took tranquilizers and became enraged when she asked who was behind the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa. The woman - identified in the Al-Majalla interview only as A.S., the initials of bin Laden's fourth and youngest wife, Amal al-Sadah - also said she believes bin Laden is alive and in Afghanistan (news - web sites), but has no proof. Amal al-Sadah is thought be a 19-year-old Yemeni. Shortly before the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States, bin Laden he moved his family to a safe house in a remote corner of Afghanistan, the woman told Al-Majalla. I feel inside me that he is still alive and, if he were dead, the whole world would know because the death of Osama cannot be concealed, she was quoted as saying. She said that after the United States began bombing al-Qaida and the Taliban on Oct. 7, we moved to a mountainous area with some children and lived in a cave for two months. The family moved again, she said, and were then taken to Pakistan by one of bin Laden's sons and some tribesmen and handed over to local authorities there. He always wished to die there and he once told me if he ever leaves Afghanistan, he will leave to meet God, she was quoted as saying. The woman also said bin Laden took tranquilizing drugs and suffered from kidney ailments. She also said he grew extremely angry when she questioned him on who was responsible for the nearly simultaneous bombing attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania on Aug. 7, 1998. U.S. officials blame bin Laden for the attacks, which killed 224 people, and he has been indicted for his suspected role. The United States fired missiles at an al-Qaida camp in Afghanistan in an attempt to kill him after the bombings. Al-Majalla is a sister publication of the respected London-based, Saudi-owned newspaper Asharq al-Awsat. The media group's owners are believed close to the Saudi ruling family, which has sought to distance the kingdom from bin Laden and weaken any influence he might have among Saudis. The magazine did not say where or when the interview was conducted but published a picture of the woman's identity card with the photograph and essential details obscured. Essam Abdallah, senior political editor at Al-Majalla, said the details were blurred out in order to protect her privacy. She wanted to talk with us but at the same time she did not want to be disturbed later by other newspapers, Abdallah told The Associated Press. Some greeted the story with skepticism. Saad al-Fagih, a Saudi dissident living in London, doubted that anyone close to bin Laden would reveal negative details about him - an act that would be considered highly disloyal and unlikely within such a traditional Muslim family. You would not expect an ordinary wife to say these things about her husband, let alone a wife of bin Laden, he said. Al-Fagih said such comments might have been made under duress if the wife was in custody or being closely watched by authorities. If this interview is authentic, I would say she's either in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia under some sort of house arrest, he said. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israel Shamir:Not Another Peace Plan
http://palestinechronicle.com/article.php?story=20020312162143110 Not Another Peace Plan Tuesday, March 12 2002 @ 04:21 PM GMT By Israel Shamir It is warm in the low hills bordering the plain; purple-dark lupines, a favourite flower of March, run along the dirt track from the refugee camp to a nearby quarry. The place is swarming with soldiers, who assist the security in the selection job. Men are separated from their womenfolk; they are handcuffed by mass-produced plastic handcuffs, standard black sacks on their heads. They are taken to the quarry, beaten, some are shot, and some are tortured. Their houses were demolished by huge Caterpillar machines. Twenty men are executed by 8 o’clock. It is another morning of ethnic cleansing in Palestine. In another world, twenty miles away, Israelis fight with heavy road traffic. It is another day of shopping and entertainment. In the Qiriya government buildings, politicians and officials discuss the Saudi Peace plan. HRH Prince Abdullah proposed to Israel full acceptance of the Arab world in exchange for full withdrawal from territories occupied in 1967. Israeli responses show the true difference between opposing streams of Israeli public opinion. Brutal Sharon and his right-wing followers flatly reject the proposal. They do not give a damn about Arab recognition. Liberal Peres of Labour party replies as follows: Yes, we gladly accept the Saudi Peace plan. It is a great plan, and Prince’s idea to recognise and accept Israel is a wonderful thing. Surely we won’t give up the lands or withdraw, but the plan is good. In the quid pro quo trade, the Jewish ‘Left’ is for the quid. Quo can wait, as it waited last fifty years. Israeli Right is not all that much interested even in playing the game of ‘peace process’. The purpose of this game is to calm the frayed nerves of contemporaries, who became witnesses of an unpleasant thing, a Palestinian Holocaust. It is hard to live without hope, and that is why fertile minds invent new proposals, new frameworks and discussion tables. While the proposals are being discussed, the Holocaust goes on. Palestine is destroyed, Palestinians murdered and tortured, and it is still the first stage of the new an-Naqba. In today’s (12.03.2002) Haaretz[i], Amnon Barzilai reports on the new opinion poll carried out by Jaffe Institute for Strategic Studies. According to it, 46% of Jews in Israel support mass deportation (transfer) of the Palestinians. If the question is asked in more ‘soft’ form, the support for the Final Solution raises to 60%. Nazis never openly declared their intention to massacre Jews and Gypsies, they spoke of ‘deportation’ and ‘transfer’ as of their ‘Final Solution’. Even in 1938, these ideas have not had such wholehearted support in Nazi Germany, as they have now in the Jewish state. But what is the Jewish state? Is it Israel, the small sliver of land in the Middle East? How would it be able to bend the will of Europeans and Americans? The Jewish historian, Solomon Lurie, author of the fundamental study of anti-Semitism in antiquity, spoke of a ‘non-territorial Jewish nation-state’. Now this powerful non-territorial state stretching from New York to Moscow accepted Nazi doctrine as its policy and genocide as its praxis. A good example is provided by the Jewish American law professor from Harvard, Alan Dershowitz, who writes in Sir Conrad Black’s owned Jerusalem Post[ii]: “the first act of [Palestinian] terrorism should result in the destruction of a small village which has been used as a base for terrorist operations. The residents would be given 24 hours to leave, and then troops will come in and bulldoze all of the buildings”. It was the standard practice of Nazi troops in occupied Europe. Provided that Dershowitz and others of that ilk taught American students for a generation, while Black and his comrades-in-arms busily promoted this agenda, it is not strange that the US gives its full support to the Judeo-Nazi war machine. Rumours of the impending US attack on Iraq and Saudi Arabia were designed to freeze the neighbouring Arab nations in the state of horrified expectation. Apparently they succeeded. The Saudi Prince Abdullah probably understands as well as anybody in the Middle East that any ‘peace proposal’ will be utilised by Zionists in order to stall the talks and to go on with their homicidal plans. But he apparently felt his first duty was to his people, to the Saudis, threatened by the Damocles’ Sword of the US Air Force. There is not a slight chance for this or other peace plan, be it Zinni, Tenet, or Mitchell plan. In 1970-72, a whole set of peace proposals were produced by Jarring and other statesmen. Israel used the time to beef up its Bar-Lev line along the Suez, while stalling or rejecting proposals. The pattern repeated itself after Madrid and Oslo. The Judeo-Nazi plans are laid out. The media they control stifles reporting and discussion of the Palestinian
[CTRL] The Pentagon thinks the unthinkable
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26794 The Pentagon thinks the unthinkable Patrick J. Buchanan Posted: March 12, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern Stepping back from the abyss of the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, Americans and Russians took away separate lessons. To JFK's inner circle, the lesson was: Never again can we tread so close to the brink of Armageddon. To the Soviets, the lesson was: Never again will we leave ourselves in a position where we have to back down before U.S. superiority in a nuclear face-off. After 1962, Moscow began a 20-year buildup of nuclear weapons that gave the Soviet Union an arsenal as awesome as that of the United States. This weekend's leak of the Pentagon Nuclear Posture Review, wherein U.S. strategic planners discuss building small new atomic weapons for use against North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Libya, may provide a similar spur to the spread of nuclear weapons. "One of the most sensitive portions of the report," says The New York Times, "is a secret discussion of contingencies in which America might need to use its 'nuclear strike capabilities.'" Among these are "an Iraqi attack on Israel ... a North Korean attack on South Korea or a military confrontation over the status of Taiwan." The Pentagon has not ruled out the pre-emptive use of nuclear weapons – on non-nuclear nations. And while all nations have war plans that are never implemented, this secret document raises grave questions about U.S. policy and the mindset of Pentagon planners. Why would we use nuclear weapons on Iraq in retaliation for an attack on Israel, when Israel has its own nuclear weapons? Under what conceivable circumstances would we use atomic weapons on Syria? Does the United States claim a right of first use of atomic weapons against any "rogue state" that develops a weapon of mass destruction? If so, where does the president get the authority to launch such wars? Or was this document leaked to intimidate the "Axis of Evil"? Is it perhaps a product of the Office of Strategic Influence, the now-defunct disinformation agency of the Pentagon? While a North Korean attack on the South would imperil U.S. troops on the DMZ, this is not 1950. Why should we fight the South's war, with atomic weapons, when the South's population is twice that of the North and its economy is 30 times as large? Would it not make more sense to get U.S. forces out of South Korea and sell Seoul the weapons she needs to conduct her own defense? And if, as the Nuclear Posture Review argues, we must be prepared to use atomic weapons on China, to defend Taiwan, why did we abrogate our mutual security treaty with Taiwan? And how can the president commit us to war to defend Taiwan, when six previous presidents have said that Taiwan is "part of China"? Again, where is the Congress of the United States? During the Cold War, U.S. nuclear weapons were used primarily to deter Moscow from attacking America or Western Europe. But when Khrushchev sent his tanks into Budapest, Eisenhower did not even break diplomatic relations. Nor did JFK when Khrushchev built the Wall. Nor did LBJ when Brezhnev crushed the Prague Spring. Nor did Reagan when Moscow ordered Solidarity smashed. Nor did Bush when Gorbachev sent Spetnatz troops into the Baltic republics. Yet, this Pentagon document lists Russia as a potential target of U.S. nuclear strikes. But, with the Soviet empire history and the Soviet Union dissolved, what could justify using atomic weapons on a Russia that retains thousands of atomic weapons of her own? None of this is to suggest that the use of nuclear weapons is never to be contemplated. We have them because, in extremis, we may have to use them. If, for example, the United States suddenly discovered that Saddam Hussein was about to fire a weapon of mass destruction at U.S. forces in Saudi Arabia, the president might have to act with dispatch to eradicate such a threat. But a primary goal of U.S. statesmen should be never to have any weapon of mass destruction used against America, her forces or her friends. What is the best policy to achieve that goal? As the technology for poison gas dates to Ypres in 1917, and for atomic weapons to Hiroshima in 1945, rogue nations may one day acquire such weapons. China already has them, and North Korea may. But again, what is the best way to prevent their use against us? Is it for the United States to threaten atomic strikes against non-nuclear rogue states? Will that threat intimidate them – or cause them to accelerate their efforts to acquire the bomb? Or is the way to make America secure to pull out of regions where we are hated and let the rogues and radicals settle their own murderous tribal, religious and territorial quarrels themselves?
[CTRL] The Face of Evil
The Face of Evil by Jeff Elkins MSNBC, in its documentary The .50-caliber militia has been kind enough to reveal the true nature of one of the states most noxious congresspersons: Rep. Henry Waxman, D-California. The central figure of the MSNBC Investigates documentary is Bob Stewart, creator of the Maadi-Griffin .50 caliber rifle kit. Very popular with enthusiasts, the Maadi-Griffin retails for under $1,600 compared to $8,000 for a Barrett .50 caliber rifle. The Maadi-Griffin also has the added advantage of having no serial numbers and under current law, buyers do not have to register the kits with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Rep. Waxman wants to change that, pronto. In fact, Waxman wants to reclassify all .50 caliber rifles as either destructive devices or Class III weapons, thus making them effectively unavailable to commoners. Actually, what Waxman really wants is to take away all your guns so he can enslave you or kill you. Id like to illustrate with some choice Waxman quotes, interspersing my comments. Quoting Waxman: I dont think everybody has a right to a weapon that can be used to kill innocent people and maybe threaten the life of a president of the United States. That could cover something as prosaic as a butter knife. Reagan was shot with a cheap .22 caliber revolver. What Waxman is saying here is that you have no right to any weapon. Quoting Waxman: The legislation were trying to get through would upgrade the classification of .50-caliber weapons to the same level as machine guns and other similar kinds of weapons. Until 1934, it was not at all uncommon for free Americans to own select-fire weaponry. Technically, you still can, but the hoops you have to jump through combined with the inflated cost and waiting period makes ownership of any Class III device impractical for most citizens. Additionally, I would never purchase a Class III weapon under the constraints currently imposed by the State . God only knows what kind of list that would put you on at BATF central. Quoting Waxman: This kind of weapon can blow up a limousine or a helicopter, can take out a vehicle, armored vehicle, maybe even a mile away. It can shoot through seven buildings! This begins to get to the core of Waxmans fear. Who commonly rides in limousines, helicopters, and armored vehicles? Hes afraid of the very citizens he was elected to represent. His fear of the general citizenry lurks behind every word from his statist mouth. In addition to fearing you, he hates you as well. Quoting Waxman: I dont believe we should wait until another tragedy takes place before we act in an appropriate, common-sense way. Another tragedy? Im unaware of any crimes committed with a .50 caliber rifle. No school shootings, bank robberies, assassinations or car jackings accomplished with the aid of a .50 caliber rifle have been reported, to my knowledge. Anyone who can afford a .50 caliber rifle is probably fairly upstanding, at least in an economic sense. Quoting Waxman: If they are militia people who think theyre going to defend America from Americans by having these weapons, and using them for that purpose, I dont think they ought to have them. Im ecstatic that the honorable Representative Waxman was not an attendee for the events following a certain shot heard in Concord many, many years ago. Perhaps his spiritual forefathers were we called them Tories and most of them fled to Canada. They seem to have made a comeback, unfortunately. Quoting Waxman: If I had my druthers, Id go further than legislation. I dont wanna see some people with this weapon at all. I dont wanna see a statist slavemaster like Waxman as an elected official of my country and it is amazing that so-called citizens would elect such a peculiar animal to a position of street sweeper, much less to the United States House of Representatives. It almost makes one think fondly of the poll tax and perhaps a property ownership requirement for voting. And Im curious as to what he means by further than legislation. Concentration camps, perhaps? Quoting Waxman: If someone is so fearful that, that theyre going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all! I saved the worst quote for last. Please read that quote. Then read it again and memorize it. Its the perfect illustration of the face of evil we confront. Waxman is correct to be nervous. In fact, he should be terrified. I rather think he is, dont you? May 16, 2001 Jeff Elkins [send him mail] is a freelance consultant and writer living in North Central Florida. His personal website is located at www.elkins.org. Copyright © 2001 LewRockwell.com ---end article--- - -InfoWarz The Constitution shall never be construed . . . to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams ...to disarm the people is the best and most
[CTRL] Slaves Of The United Nations
(UN meeting to decide what to do with all you useless eaters and malcontents. And FAKE-FRAUD-PHONEY so-called Conservative, GW. Bush will be there, just like his Daddy. Can you say, Yes, Massa, boys and girls?) -- Slaves Of The United Nations: Their Most Dangerous Meeting Ever! By: Alan Caruba Published in the March 20, 2002 issue of Ether Zone. Next week, March 18 through March 21, is going to determine whether liberty continues to exist in the world or whether everyone will fall pray to the schemes of the United Nations to become a one-world government imposing a New World Order. My friend, Henry Lamb, the chairman of Sovereignty International, recently wrote about the similarities between Hitlers mad dreams of global dominance and the United Nations careful, slow creep and crawl toward the same goal. In the end, just as the United States and its allies put an end to Herr Hitlers villainy, the US remains the only power on Earth capable of ending the nightmare of enslavement by the global government plotters and schemers in the United Nations. To make the bad news worse, President Bush will be among the more than fifty world leaders who will attend the event. Will he sign off on this most dangerous threat to our national sovereignty? Consider the list of world conferences the United Nations has sponsored in just the passed decade. Conferences on children (1990); on the environment (1992); on human rights (1993); on global governance (1993 1995); on world trade (1994); on world population (1994); on social development (1995); on sustainable development (1995); on women (1995); on human habitats (1996); on global warming (1996); on the International Criminal court (1998); and its Millennium Assembly and Summit in 2000. There was an aborted conference on racial prejudice in 2001 that was so filled with hatred it swiftly sank into the mire of its own hypocrisy. Let me borrow a sentence from the Declaration of Independence, by action of the Second Continental Congress, July 4, 1776: But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. The United States fought the War of Independence over the issue of taxation without representation. Who represents you at the United Nations? A single appointed ambassador! With one vote in the General Assembly! Next week, in Monterey, Mexico, the UN High Level Panel of Financing Development will meet. The United Nations was set up to be financed by dues from its member states, but the UN has been cautiously working toward becoming financially independent of its own members by imposing a series of taxes that would increase its income by trillions. These taxes would include those on international and other air transportation, the use of all coal, oil and natural gas, taxes on all currency transactions, and a dozen others they have lined up such as taxes on weapons exports, the Internet, and who knows what else? The UN Conference in Mexico will propose consolidating all international financial and development institutions under its control. If the UN were to control which nations receive development funding and which do not, it will have a total chokehold on the future over every nation. It will even propose that immigrants will have to pay taxes not only to their new nation of residence, but the one from which they may well have fled! With trillions, the cabal that runs the United Nations would no longer have to take notice of the United States or any other nation. It would soon be putting together its own vast military force capable of invading any nation to impose its will. The UN already has an International Court that already claims jurisdiction over every nation and its citizens, even if that nation is not a signatory to the conference that created it. What is at stake here is the prospect of raw, unlimited power in the hands of people who are not elected by anyone other than themselves, if they can get their hands on the money to achieve this goal! Who would support such an obscenity? How about former President Clintons Deputy Secretary of State, Strobe Talbot, who said, Nationhood as we know it will be obsolete, all states will recognize a single, global authority, and national sovereignty wasnt such a great idea after all. Multiply Talbot by the unknown, countless people in Congress and elsewhere throughout our government, along with others ranging from openly communist or socialist organizations to so-called environmental organizations, the people who run multinational corporations who see profit signs if there are no borders or restraints, the mysterious clique who run some of nations wealthiest foundations, and all the others who see themselves acquiring power and wealth under the aegis of the United Nations. No single
[CTRL] INC News Center - 11/12/2001: Bin Laden-Saddam nuclear pact?
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[CTRL] Fwd: Who Benefits from the World Trade Center/Pentagon Attacks?
Note this DEBKA news again revealing US secrets but also lies for the Israelis are the ones with these little nuclear back packs and note, while an American General who received the Congressional Medal of Honor was searched, stripped, and agents were going to take his Medal from him for scrap - but Ehud Barak free to travel as he pleases with base operation in Texas - the phone company again. NOTE: Debka File claims to have military intelligencne' sources but they are not USA sources, they are the enemy within - MOSSAD sources, and by their own admission their military intelligence information serves a dual purpose. First it creates problems with Arab Nations - they are hell bent on having Iraq destroyed. Second note always with DEBKA it is sources say this, sources say that - when it is double dealing two faced Israelis doing the double dealing. Interesting item..and then consider DEBKA an Israeli garbage sheet - reveals troop locations and maybe it has gone by unnoticed but when these locations are published - our Special Forces are attacked. Israels have 80 some nuclear backpacks.triggers everything necessaryhow east for the Israels to plant a few of these little bombs to cause chaos and blame it once again on the Muslims - the Arab Nations. But to be rational about this and see the truth - what the hell would these big rich Arab Nations, all that oil, gold rubies, pearls, diamonds - what the hell would they want with this state of Israel? Only Palestinians have any use for the stones. Just like Vietnam when the UFO nutz reported UFOs over George and Alabama, like stars picked up by newspaper and Vietkong knew and targeted date and time of their return. OSaba Who Benefits from the World Trade Center/Pentagon Attacks? Who Benefits? That's always the first question to consider when a terrorist attack occurs. Instead of clenching one's fist, waving one's flag and shouting vindictive slogans, let's just stop for a moment of calm analysis of the basic facts. When we analyze who benefits, we immediately will know with over 99% surety, who did it! What was the tone of U.S. and world opinion just a week or two before the attacks? In the U.S., the economy was lagging badly, the stock market was falling, many were questioning if the government's taxes were legal, the Gary Condit case had been poorly handled, people continued to question Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing, they questioned our support of Israel in her policies regarding the Palestinians, and the approval rate of President Bush was low. What about World Opinion? Just 8 days before the WTC/Pentagon attacks, Israel was stunned by a UN decision equating Zionism with Racism, according to Ha'aretz Daily.com. Israel was branded a racist apartheid state by thousands of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) attending a U.N. World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa. The conference was attended by representatives of 153 governments. The declaration, adopted by 3,000 NGOs in 44 regional and interest-based caucuses, shocked Jewish groups. Foreign Minister Shimon Peres called the anti-Israel declarations a disgrace, and said that Israel was seriously contemplating withdrawing from the conference in protest. The Israeli delegation to the conference blasted the language of the NGO declaration as an incitement to hatred of Jews. Jewish delegates walked out. The U.S. delegates followed. The Forum accused the Jewish state of systematic perpetration of racist crimes including war crimes, acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing in its treatment of the Palestinians. In addition, the head of the Danish Red Cross, Freddy Karup Pederson, told the Danish Parliamentary Foreign Affairs Committee that the lifestyle of Jewish settlers in the Palestinian territories resembles that of whites under the former racist apartheid system. He also criticized Israel's collective punishment of the Palestinian population. There is NO doubt that Israel is a racist state. Its own human-rights advocates call it that. The laws of the state of Israel allow a Jew anywhere in the world to become a citizen of Israel, but a Palestinian driven out of his own country, deprived of his home and all his possessions in 1948, cannot return. There are certain neighborhoods in Israel where a Palestinian cannot be issued a building permit, nor have the opportunity to buy or rent a home. Wouldn't the ACLU scream racism if those laws were applied to the Jews - or to the Blacks - in this country. The U.S. Was Set to Support Palestinian Statehood! The Bush administration planned to promote and support the recognition of a Palestinian state in a speech to be given by Secretary Colin L. Powell, but the plan was derailed by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, according on the Washington Post, Oct 2, 2001. Powell had planned to discuss the initiative with Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador to the United States on Sept. 13!
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Who Benefits from the World Trade Center/Pentagon Attacks?
-Caveat Lector- on 3/14/02 12:33 AM, saba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note this DEBKA news again revealing US secrets but also lies I know it's my own limitation - but Saba - which is it? I'm confused How do we tell which are the secrets and which are the lies? -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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March 13, 2002
National Review Editor
Suggests Nuking Mecca
CounterPunch Wire
American Muslim groups are calling on the National Review to apologize for
published statements by editor Rich Lowry who suggested that nuking Mecca
would send a signal to Muslims. National Review online calls itself America's
premier conservative website.)
In an online forum called The Corner, editor Rich Lowry wrote on March 7:
Lots of sentiment for nuking Mecca. Moderates opt for something more along these
lines: Baghdad and Tehran would be the likeliest sites for a first strike. If we have
clean enough bombs to assure a pinpoint damage area, Gaza City and Ramallah
would also be on list. Damascus, Cairo, Algiers, Tripoli and Riyadh should be put on
alert that any signs of support for the attacks in their cities will bring immediate
annihilation...
This is a tough one, and I don't know quite what to think. Mecca seems extreme, of
course, but then again few people would die and it would send a signal. Religions
have suffered such catastrophic setbacks before...And, as a general matter, the time
for seriousness-including figuring out what we would do in retaliation, so maybe it can
have some slight deterrent effect--is now rather than after thousands and thousands
more American casualties.
National Review writer Rod Dreher also took part in the discussion of an attack on
Mecca. He wrote: ...I'd say Baghdad, Tehran and Riyadh should make the list, tout
ensemble, and maybe even Damascus. As for Mecca, well, it would feel good, but
we'd have every Muslim on the planet enraged unto ages of ages...
These statements are a call to violence against Muslims and Islam. Inflammatory
rhetoric suggesting mass murder and the destruction of religious sites is wildly
irresponsible and beyond the bounds of reasoned debate. The National Review
should apologize immediately and discipline Lowry and Dreher for their offensive
remarks. Hate speech can never be justified or excused, said CAIR Executive
Director Nihad Awad.
Awad added that these statements are part of a disturbing trend in which some
commentators attack the faith of Islam under the cover of political debate. (Lowry
now says his remarks were merely sarcastic.) In a September column published on
National Review, Ann Coulter wrote: ...We should invade their [Muslim] countries,
kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.
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[CTRL] An Enigma: Vast Israeli Spy Network Dismantled in the US
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/rep/lemonde1.html An Enigma: Vast Israeli Spy Network Dismantled in the US By Sylvain Cypel Le Monde March 5, 2002 Translated by Malcolm Garris It is undoubtedly the largest case of Israeli spying in the United States that has been made public since 1986. In June 2001, an investigative report detailed the activities of more than one-hundred Israeli agents, some presenting themselves as fine arts students, others tied to Israeli high-tech companies. All were challenged by the authorities, were questioned, and a dozen of them are still imprisoned. One of their tasks was to track the Al-Qaida terrorists on American territory without informing the federal authorities. Elements of this investigation, taken up by American television Fox News, reinforce this thesis: that Israel did not transmit to the United States all the evidence in its possession on the preparation of the September 11 attacks. The latest issue of the Online Intelligence Letter, a publication specializing in questions of information, has revealed that a vast Israeli spy network operating on American territory was dismantled. It is the biggest affair involving the Mossad (the Israels external security agency) in activity against the United States since Jonathan Pollard, an employee of the US Navy, was condemned to life in prison, in 1986, for spying for Israels benefit. Which was the real scale of this network? The facts evoked by an American investigative report do not indicate if the network obtained the information it was after, or if the authorities dismantled it in its initial phase. According to the chief editor of Online Intelligence, Guillaume Dasquié, this vast network of Israeli intelligence agents was neutralized by the counter- espionage services of the Department of Justice. The Americans would have apprehended or expelled close to 120 Israeli nationals. M. Dasquié gives a report on a 61-page review article from June 2001, given to the American justice department by a task force made up of agents of the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) and some INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) agents who were associated with the FBI and the office of investigation of the US Air Force. Questioned by Le Monde, Will Glaspy, of the Public Affairs department of the DEA, authenticated this report, and said the DEA holds a copy. This is not the first time that information relating to Israeli espionage appeared in the United States since the Pollard affair. In June 1999, the review Insight had described, at length, a secret investigation by division 5 of the FBI regarding Israeli phone-tapping targeting the White House, the State Department and the National Security Council. After the attacks of September 11, very little detailed information had come out about the arrest of some sixty Israelis. Finally, from the 11th to the 14th of December 2001, the Fox News television channel aired an investigation in four parts into Israeli espionage in the United States, in the broadcast Carl Cameron Investigates. The Israeli embassy in Washington immediately responded by stating that it did not contain anything true. American Jewish organizations such JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs), AIPAC (America-Israel Political Action Committee) and others, denounced the report as a machination. Fox withdrew from its Internet site, one day and half after its posting, all the material related to this investigation. Le Monde requested three times with Fox News to provide a tape of the broadcast. It was never done. On February 26, Fox told our correspondent in New York that sending it posed a problem, without being specific. Le Monde, however took note of the whole script in this investigation. Carl Cameron evokes a vast secret investigation held there relating to 140 Israelis made to pass for students of the University of Jerusalem or Betzalel Academy of Arts [which have] unceasingly sought to come into contact with civil servants and, according to a document, targeted and penetrated military bases, dozens of buildings of the DEA, FBI, and others. His investigation focused on two aspects. Firstly, could the Israelis have had preliminary knowledge of the September 11 attacks and not informed the Americans? His sources, explains Carl Cameron, tell him: The principal question is how they could they have not known? On the screen, his editor-in- chief tells him thus: Certain reports confirm that the Mossad sent representatives to the United States to warn them, before September 11, of the imminence of a major terrorist attack. That does not go in the direction of an absence of warning. Camerons response: The problem is not the absence of warning, but the absence of useful details compared to those which American services suspect Israel of having held. The second round of the investigation touched on Israeli companies providing administrative services for American companies, which
[CTRL] Tents for Mass in Mass. ?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/sett03132002.htm Costly deal: Church working to raise millions by Eric Convey, Tom Mashberg and Maggie Mulvihill Wednesday, March 13, 2002 The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston is scrambling to come up with tens of millions of dollars - some of it from wealthy donors ready to sign checks as soon as today - to pay for a rash of settlements expected to follow yesterday's $20 million deal in the John J. Geoghan sex abuse scandal. Leading the effort is a coalition of moneyed Catholics that has already met privately to coordinate a giving campaign aimed at covering the overall abuse pricetag, which could hit $100 million after cases brought by about 200 victims of Geoghan and a dozen other priests are resolved. Rest of story at site A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
