[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- This is forwarded, because I was not allowed to respond Saturday night to the posts I finally had time to make response to. List Serv said I had to wait and resend. So here it is. - Original Message - Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 1:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Kris, You're on which ever side you choose... I know you don't believe in the devil or Satan... because you have said so, several times. So there are no sides for you. A civil lawyer once told me that there are three sides to the truth, our side, their side and the truth. However, Christ said it best in his description of those who ride the fence... "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of clothing; and knowest that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. " Revelation 3:v15-17 Just remember here that I only quoted the words. I am not the one who passes the judgment. By the way, I do not have a problem with Scriptural haggling, and that is not what I perceive it as, but rather a wholesome discussion However, if Scriptural haggling is what you want to call it, as long as it's not brought up, I won't bring it without provocation... eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 1/20/00 10:34:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are going to believe what you want to believe. I am not here to convince you to believe as I do. I merely provided the documentation you asked for. eagle 1 Very interesting. Arguments over interpretative values of scripture as they concern they last days. So telling . . . . Your dualism is also very telling. I am saying you are wrong. I am saying that your dualistic framing is wrong spiritually? I am against you dividing peoples beliefs into God and the Devil.I would much rather prosecute the traitors now and leave a better world to our children. So since I oppose you , who side am I on? By the way, how old is the earth? Your rhetoric is classic. The type one can expect from memewarfare and ignorance. PLEASE can ya'll please take the scriptorial haggling off list. I believe we all know about the innate dichotomies present in the Bible. And they won't be solved by email arguments about the finer points of eschatology. MHO Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Again, another one of those that was not allowed to be posted by List Serv. - Original Message - Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! KDS, Tracking huh? Well, if you would, please explain, in common sense, this one... with regard to the *RIGHT HAND* . (it has the same meaning as Revelation 13 where it is used and abused). ""And He had in His RIGHT HAND seven stars; and out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and His countenance was as the sun shineth in His strength. And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead, and He laid His RIGHT HAND upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and the last; I am He that liveth, and was dead; and behold, I am alive for ever more, Amen: and have the keys of hell and of death. "" - Revelation 1:v16-18 eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "KDS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I used the word tracking, to keep track, but the Bible is clear that no man may buy, sell, or trade, unless he receiveth the mark...therefore, common sense would dictate that , that in itself will keep a record of anyone's transactions.. as far as the spirit of delusion sent , so that they might believe the lie..hello, that is the lie that the anti-christ is the messiah...and many will believe just that..the lie , has nothing to do w/ the rapture, and if you really believe that a born-again Christian who happens to believe in a rapture will not be saved then you have indeed missed the whole message of Christ. and let's try speaking the 'truth in love' you seem very judgemental of other christians beliefs..remember, the messure you give, will be the measure you get judge not, lest you be judged more harshly.and all that... no, the Bible doesn't specify a chip, ect..but, we know that computer chips are indeed extremely small, they can hold thousands of pieces of information, and can be inserted under the skin...it is not a great leap to discern that, that could be used, and probably will be... curious, if any of you saw the Oprah Winfrey show in the early 90's, it was a show on the year 2000, the guest said by then we should be in a cashless society, where buying and selling would be kept track of by a chip in the hand..?? and it's been mentioned countless times since then, as well you know, if you pay attention to that sort of thing and Eagle, don't assume that you are the only one on the list who studies the Bible...and just because I disagree w/ a LOT of what you think, doesn't mean I'm unintelligent or believe in a bunch of hooey...I can back myself up w/ countless scripture also..and that being said..I bid you, good day! ks A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, Find me the word "RAPTURE" in the Bible... anywhere in the Bible. I don't want a twist of scripture... or a combination of scripture that makes it "sound" like it is a rapture... I only want to know where to find this word "rapture" specifically. Thank you very much. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. Sorry, but if it's the word of God, it's not a theory. It's truth. As for pre-trib or post trib, I've discussed this issue 100 times over and have yet to find anything that would make me believe it to be post trib. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, Find me the word "RAPTURE" in the Bible... anywhere in the Bible. I don't want a twist of scripture... or a combination of scripture that makes it "sound" like it is a rapture.= .. I only want to know where to find this word "rapture" specifically. Thank you very much. eagle 1 You won't find it in the "English" version, however that doesn't mean it's not there. The word "Rapture" is Latin, if you have the Latin Vulgate you would be able to read it, but you would have to alos be able to read and understand Latin. Our word "Rapture" is the Greek translation of the same word. You can have different translations of the same book, which of course has different wording, however, the general meaning stays the same. "A rose by any other name stays as sweet" -Shakespeare You're welcome very much. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 1/24/00 2:05:29 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "A rose by any other name stays as sweet" -Shakespeare Er, ya' mean Bacon! Sir Francis Bacon! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It doesn't matter what it is, we won't be here to see it. But I disagree, it is physical thing. [Rev 13:16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: So, you're saying that's not physical? Rev 16:2] And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell *a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.* So you're saying these people that take this "not physical mark" will somehow get a sore from something that's not physical? It's obvious it's physical, and it's going to cause health problems according to Rev 16:2. Why do you believe what you believe about the mark? What scriptures do you have for support of this theory? Jamie You are absolutely right, Eagle1. The "mark" is not a physical thing. People are so worried about being forced to get a smartcard or chip implant...ridiculous! Even if this chip were to be used as an identification, it only menas that technology has improved. If we aren't going to burn for having a social security number, this is no different. I just wonder how many people would end up as refugees or dead by insisting on not getting a chip, if it were ever required. Identification or credit is not a crime against God. What did Jesus say about the coin with Caesar's image on it? Or what did Paul say about obeying the earthly rulers, for God put them in power? Put your trust in God, or you might be "marked" by the One who really counts. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- well Dale, I guess if you trust the gov. to not abuse the power this would give them.more-power to YOU! however, since we know absolute power corrupts absolutely, why give the gov.even more power over us? and it seems to me, you are comparing apples to oranges... Dale Stonehouse wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- So may I infer from this that anything that can be used for any purpose other than good should be caused to cease to exist if possible? If so, then: If guns can be used for other than good, let's cause them to cease to exist. If abortion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If government can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If science can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If religion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If splitting the atom can be used for other than good, let's cause atoms to cease to exist. The sentiment itself may have merit, but the logic fails - every time. Whose reality are we talking about here? On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, memmerrise [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I found this after very little Research, and found it interesting as to how prevailant this technology may become. Hmmm I wonder if there is a single person out there that could actually believe that this will only be used for good. If so they need to join Reality. Memmerrise Current trends in transponder systems Major successes using RFID technologies in use today are: Electronic Article Surveillance (EAS) Market penetration of this technology is already reportedly reaching 6 000 million units per year and growing strongly. However there is still lack of standardisation between the different manufacturers, which causes confusion with the end users. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, I absolutely resemble your remark.. and agree w/ ya, wholeheartedly. kimmy "Stopforth, Jamie" wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. Sorry, but if it's the word of God, it's not a theory. It's truth. As for pre-trib or post trib, I've discussed this issue 100 times over and have yet to find anything that would make me believe it to be post trib. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, KDS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: well Dale, I guess if you trust the gov. to not abuse the power this would give them. I don't trust or distrust the government any more than I believe or disbelieve any particular religion. This would be engaging in dualistic, black-or-white thinking, which is the trap "they" are counting on us to keep ourselves in. Nearly all of reality is in the grey area which is ignored by the masses. Wishing for technology to go away does not make it so. "I wish the Earth was still flat." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- oh, well, the reality of the situation is black and white..in that if you study history you will see that any government who had full control over its peoples abused that power and their people.and that is the REALITY of the situation... nothing grey there, and that has nothing to do w/ your or anyone's religious beliefs. and I personally do not trust the government and that opinion I hold is based on fact not feeling... ks Dale Stonehouse wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, KDS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: well Dale, I guess if you trust the gov. to not abuse the power this would give them. I don't trust or distrust the government any more than I believe or disbelieve any particular religion. This would be engaging in dualistic, black-or-white thinking, which is the trap "they" are counting on us to keep ourselves in. Nearly all of reality is in the grey area which is ignored by the masses. Wishing for technology to go away does not make it so. "I wish the Earth was still flat." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 1/20/00 10:34:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are going to believe what you want to believe. I am not here to convince you to believe as I do. I merely provided the documentation you asked for. eagle 1 Very interesting. Arguments over interpretative values of scripture as they concern they last days. So telling . . . . Your dualism is also very telling. I am saying you are wrong. I am saying that your dualistic framing is wrong spiritually? I am against you dividing peoples beliefs into God and the Devil.I would much rather prosecute the traitors now and leave a better world to our children. So since I oppose you , who side am I on? By the way, how old is the earth? Your rhetoric is classic. The type one can expect from memewarfare and ignorance. PLEASE can ya'll please take the scriptorial haggling off list. I believe we all know about the innate dichotomies present in the Bible. And they won't be solved by email arguments about the finer points of eschatology. MHO Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
d settle this issue to know which mark you possess. And by the way, the plagues / vials have nothing whatsoever to do directly with the mark. The plagues of the vials is the wrath of God (Revelation 16:1) which are poured out on the unrighteous, the wicked and the rebellious who followed not the truths of God, but rather followed the spurious messiah and his false prophets. The wrath of God is not 'poured out' until after the tribulation of antichrist, which involves the marking of the beast. It is apparent that you are confusing the chronological order of things in your interpretation and may be why you are also confused on what the mark of the beast really is. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It doesn't matter what it is, we won't be here to see it. But I disagree, it is physical thing. [Rev 13:16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: So, you're saying that's not physical? Rev 16:2] And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell *a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.* So you're saying these people that take this "not physical mark" will somehow get a sore from something that's not physical? It's obvious it's physical, and it's going to cause health problems according to Rev 16:2. Why do you believe what you believe about the mark? What scriptures do you have for support of this theory? Jamie You are absolutely right, Eagle1. The "mark" is not a physical thing. People are so worried about being forced to get a smartcard or chip implant...ridiculous! Even if this chip were to be used as an identification, it only menas that technology has improved. If we aren't going to burn for having a social security number, this is no different. I just wonder how many people would end up as refugees or dead by insisting on not getting a chip, if it were ever required. Identification or credit is not a crime against God. What did Jesus say about the coin with Caesar's image on it? Or what did Paul say about obeying the earthly rulers, for God put them in power? Put your trust in God, or you might be "marked" by the One who really counts. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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itude' is truly a spiritual mark. Anyone who would tell you such nonsense that it is a card, bar code, tattoo, or computer chip implant or anything else for that matter, is dealing in speculation of what the mark truly is. Why would you believe in speculation? God was very exact and true in explaining this mark, and has gone out of His way to make sure we understand it in truth. Just remember that the mark of the beast is not something you can see outwardly. Emphatically, it is *not* a tattoo, a card, barcode, or a computer chip of any kind. As stated, those ideas came from people who "speculate" on what the mark of the beast is. If you find yourself believing that the mark of the beast is any of those nonsensical things, check out what God has said about it in His Word. This will be the only way you can know the truth within yourself and settle this issue to know which mark you possess. And by the way, the plagues / vials have nothing whatsoever to do directly with the mark. The plagues of the vials is the wrath of God (Revelation 16:1) which are poured out on the unrighteous, the wicked and the rebellious who followed not the truths of God, but rather followed the spurious messiah and his false prophets. The wrath of God is not 'poured out' until after the tribulation of antichrist, which involves the marking of the beast. It is apparent that you are confusing the chronological order of things in your interpretation and may be why you are also confused on what the mark of the beast really is. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It doesn't matter what it is, we won't be here to see it. But I disagree, it is physical thing. [Rev 13:16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: So, you're saying that's not physical? Rev 16:2] And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell *a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.* So you're saying these people that take this "not physical mark" will somehow get a sore from something that's not physical? It's obvious it's physical, and it's going to cause health problems according to Rev 16:2. Why do you believe what you believe about the mark? What scriptures do you have for support of this theory? Jamie You are absolutely right, Eagle1. The "mark" is not a physical thing. People are so worried about being forced to get a smartcard or chip implant...ridiculous! Even if this chip were to be used as an identification, it only menas that technology has improved. If we aren't going to burn for having a social security number, this is no different. I just wonder how many people would end up as refugees or dead by insisting on not getting a chip, if it were ever required. Identification or credit is not a crime against God. What did Jesus say about the coin with Caesar's image on it? Or what did Paul say about obeying the earthly rulers, for God put them in power? Put your trust in God, or you might be "marked" by the One who really counts. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis
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-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It doesn't matter what it is, we won't be here to see it. But I disagree, it is physical thing. Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, The clue is given... "RIGHT" hand. That is where you must dig into your history and you will find that the Hebrews and others at the time believed that spiritual POWER was always given IN to the 'right' hand to do the work of God. First of all, it's NOT merely a state of mind, as you put it... and really, I don't care if you disagree... but at least admit that your brain is *in your forehead* and within the casing of your cranium. IF it's not... then that is where the problem of understanding this comes from. :-) AGAIN... I don't know how or why you are dragging something out of chronological order, such as the vials to the time of the mark of the beast. The vials (wrath of God) as you've quoted from Revelation 16 do not occur until AFTER the (6) SIXTH SEAL, the (6) SIXTH PLAGUE (vial) and the (6) SIXTH TRUMPET . The reason God pours out his wrath is because of his anger with the spurious messiah who comes claiming to be Christ, but who is none other than Lucifer, Satan that old Dragon, the devil (See Revelation 12:7-9) and who has perverted the true image of Christ (the image of Jealousy which Ezekiel saw and is that which provoked God to wrath in Ezekiel 8 and has all to do with the Babylonian Mysticism that was carried by the apostate Jews to the Temple in Jerusalem, and that Judeo mysticism of belief is called the "Kabbalah"). THUS, you have the image of the beast. It is called the "BEAST" because it is a profane perversion of the true image of Christ. So, if you want to believe that the mark is a physical mark... then, please, do so. I am not here to convince you of what it is or isn't. You asked for documentation. I provided it. And provided you a place off this list for further study at http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html You are asking me for documentation, yet, you don't seem to be providing anything sound or documentable. You just keep repeating Revelation 16:2, which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the mark of the beast... except that God's wrath will be poured out upon those who accept that mark of that religious perversion, known as Mystery Babylon (and her harlot daughters), which is false religions and false doctrines. You can research that study by going to http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/whore.html It is NOT a physical mark. If it were, Cain, too, and his progeny would have been marked the same, for it means almost the exact same word in Aramaic (Greek). NONE of them are physically marked, but are definitely recognizable. There is a study available on this subject matter at the site also. You are going to believe what you want to believe. I am not here to convince you to believe as I do. I merely provided the documentation you asked for. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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ignature. The matrix comprising the antenna and crystals can have a footprint as small as a postage stamp and is available even in a thin layered paste. Currently the developers claim 400 million such radio frequency signature transponders are now in circulation. Dairy tagging This technology is widely accepted throughout the world, particularly for identifying cows in a dairy. By using eartags a computer system is able to identify the cow when close to the reader. This identification allows a computer to record the milk output of the cow and also allows it to provide the correct feed mixture to the particular cow while it is being milked. These feature allows a few staff to manage a large herd and also to change the diet of the cow through different phases of its milking cycle. Recently an Australian State has called for a marking system to be applied to all herd animals in the region. Petrol and chemical dispensing Companies conveying different chemicals in road and rail tankers are seeking technologies to allow computer verification that the tanker is only filled from the correct nozzle in order to prevent contamination of product. This has resulted in developments of transponder systems suitable for attaching to the filling nozzles and computer compatible reading equipment to verify the identification of the nozzle and the tanker before allowing loading. A recent patent proposes extending this principle to petrol stations. By placing a small transponder alongside the filler cap of motor vehicle's fuel tank, whereby the pump can sense the users requirements automatically to dispense the correct fuel grade as well as authenticate the accounting systems. For identifying customers and debiting their credit cards with the appropriate charges, two major petrol companies are trying out transponder systems. Mobil is using Speedpass and Shell is calling its system EasyPay. Transponders are either windscreen mounted, operating at the 900 or 2.45GHz band which communicate with reading equipment situated in the pump alongside which the motorist pulls up, or they are 125Khz magnetic coupled versions in a key ring holder, where the motorist swipes the transponder over a reader at the pump to provide identity details. TIRIS have aligned with a pump manufacturer to provide systems complete with pumps. Enviromental monitoring of transport environment A company in Canada has recently developed an active tag with a large memory, programmable microprocessor, sensors and RFID communications interfaces that allow the tag to monitor at regular intervals the enviromental conditions experienced by the tag and its labelled cargo while in transit. This could have application in the shipping of for example frozen goods allowing the recipient to verify that their shipping requirements were adhered to. - Original Message - From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I have that book with the same name called Implantable Biochip Technology, see below. Every technical detail on what the companies are developing for this whole system. (no preaching! - all 80 pages of technology) The address is there below and its $US 10 Nicky The Mark of the New WorldOrder: I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! http://www.prophezine.com/search/database/is2.5.html By: Terry L. Cook Clinton's proposed health care card, a disguised NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD is an ingenious device for tracking and controlling the lives of American citizens. This new ID card will allow Big Brother and Big Sister (uncle Bill and aunt Hillary, or any other New World Order representative) to maintain digitized, permanent, and accessible records on every man, woman and child in America. The government wants us to believe that this socialistic plan will benefit us by allegedly improving the quality and/or general availability of health care coverage in the United States. But nothing could be further from the truth! Indeed, the ulterior objective of this plan is not to improve the quality or availability of health care insurance. Rather, it is a devious means of consolidating and computerizing all available information on each of us into a new electronically digitized, centralized government data base that will ultimately lead to a complete loss of privacy, enslavement, and control. To make this enslaving system work, each of us must have a unique ID number that can be accessed by various local, national and international computer banks. That is why the National Health Board, which would be set up under this socialistic "Health Care" program, would "enforce unique identification numbers for all consumers," according to government literature. This is already being done in Canada and other countries. The Clintonista National Identity Card
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How can you track the buying and selling of every person on the planet, if the mark is not a physical thing Revelation needs to be interpreted by using the book of Daniel...they go togetheryes, I know there are a few others also and the 'right hand ' term is used regarding Jesus, because he is seated at the right hand of God now, it also says that all who takes the markwill fall down and worship the beastso, you are taking something, receiving something...so that you may be able to buy, sell or trade.that is pysicalas i said, the Greek word meaning to 'incise, to put into' a physical putting intolook it up in the Greek Concordance if you don't believe me.. anyhoo, regardless we should strongly object to anyone who would have us put a computer chip anywhere in our bodies...it will subject us to full governmental slavery.and you know it ks pennie hammons wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misd
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHO said anyone is tracking anything? My Bible says nothing about tracking anything or anyone... it talks about a MARK... to buy or sell. ANYTHING ELSE is imposed by false doctrine. The Bible says nothing about a chip, a tattoo, a card or electromagnetic anything... those are traditions of men who deal in speculation, and is a bunch of hooey. As a matter of fact, you are way off track, and as a famous man once said... you need to read it again... and as Jesus said, "IT IS WRITTEN". eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "KDS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How can you track the buying and selling of every person on the planet, if the mark is not a physical thing Revelation needs to be interpreted by using the book of Daniel...they go togetheryes, I know there are a few others also and the 'right hand ' term is used regarding Jesus, because he is seated at the right hand of God now, it also says that all who takes the markwill fall down and worship the beastso, you are taking something, receiving something...so that you may be able to buy, sell or trade.that is pysicalas i said, the Greek word meaning to 'incise, to put into' a physical putting intolook it up in the Greek Concordance if you don't believe me.. anyhoo, regardless we should strongly object to anyone who would have us put a computer chip anywhere in our bodies...it will subject us to full governmental slavery.and you know it ks pennie hammons wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- So may I infer from this that anything that can be used for any purpose other than good should be caused to cease to exist if possible? If so, then: If guns can be used for other than good, let's cause them to cease to exist. If abortion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If government can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If science can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If religion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If splitting the atom can be used for other than good, let's cause atoms to cease to exist. The sentiment itself may have merit, but the logic fails - every time. Whose reality are we talking about here? On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, memmerrise [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I found this after very little Research, and found it interesting as to how prevailant this technology may become. Hmmm I wonder if there is a single person out there that could actually believe that this will only be used for good. If so they need to join Reality. Memmerrise Current trends in transponder systems Major successes using RFID technologies in use today are: Electronic Article Surveillance (EAS) Market penetration of this technology is already reportedly reaching 6 000 million units per year and growing strongly. However there is still lack of standardisation between the different manufacturers, which causes confusion with the end users. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. Sorry, but if it's the word of God, it's not a theory. It's truth. As for pre-trib or post trib, I've discussed this issue 100 times over and have yet to find anything that would make me believe it to be post trib. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I used the word tracking, to keep track, but the Bible is clear that no man may buy, sell, or trade, unless he receiveth the mark...therefore, common sense would dictate that , that in itself will keep a record of anyone's transactions.. as far as the spirit of delusion sent , so that they might believe the lie..hello, that is the lie that the anti-christ is the messiah...and many will believe just that..the lie , has nothing to do w/ the rapture, and if you really believe that a born-again Christian who happens to believe in a rapture will not be saved then you have indeed missed the whole message of Christ. and let's try speaking the 'truth in love' you seem very judgemental of other christians beliefs..remember, the messure you give, will be the measure you get judge not, lest you be judged more harshly.and all that... no, the Bible doesn't specify a chip, ect..but, we know that computer chips are indeed extremely small, they can hold thousands of pieces of information, and can be inserted under the skin...it is not a great leap to discern that, that could be used, and probably will be... curious, if any of you saw the Oprah Winfrey show in the early 90's, it was a show on the year 2000, the guest said by then we should be in a cashless society, where buying and selling would be kept track of by a chip in the hand..?? and it's been mentioned countless times since then, as well you know, if you pay attention to that sort of thing and Eagle, don't assume that you are the only one on the list who studies the Bible...and just because I disagree w/ a LOT of what you think, doesn't mean I'm unintelligent or believe in a bunch of hooey...I can back myself up w/ countless scripture also..and that being said..I bid you, good day! ks Eagle 1 wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHO said anyone is tracking anything? My Bible says nothing about tracking anything or anyone... it talks about a MARK... to buy or sell. ANYTHING ELSE is imposed by false doctrine. The Bible says nothing about a chip, a tattoo, a card or electromagnetic anything... those are traditions of men who deal in speculation, and is a bunch of hooey. As a matter of fact, you are way off track, and as a famous man once said... you need to read it again... and as Jesus said, "IT IS WRITTEN". eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "KDS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How can you track the buying and selling of every person on the planet, if the mark is not a physical thing Revelation needs to be interpreted by using the book of Daniel...they go togetheryes, I know there are a few others also and the 'right hand ' term is used regarding Jesus, because he is seated at the right hand of God now, it also says that all who takes the markwill fall down and worship the beastso, you are taking something, receiving something...so that you may be able to buy, sell or trade.that is pysicalas i said, the Greek word meaning to 'incise, to put into' a physical putting intolook it up in the Greek Concordance if you don't believe me.. anyhoo, regardless we should strongly object to anyone who would have us put a computer chip anywhere in our bodies...it will subject us to full governmental slavery.and you know it ks pennie hammons wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the ma
[CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I have that book with the same name called Implantable Biochip Technology, see below. Every technical detail on what the companies are developing for this whole system. (no preaching! - all 80 pages of technology) The address is there below and its $US 10 Nicky The Mark of the New WorldOrder: I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! http://www.prophezine.com/search/database/is2.5.html By: Terry L. Cook Clinton's proposed health care card, a disguised NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD is an ingenious device for tracking and controlling the lives of American citizens. This new ID card will allow Big Brother and Big Sister (uncle Bill and aunt Hillary, or any other New World Order representative) to maintain digitized, permanent, and accessible records on every man, woman and child in America. The government wants us to believe that this socialistic plan will benefit us by allegedly improving the quality and/or general availability of health care coverage in the United States. But nothing could be further from the truth! Indeed, the ulterior objective of this plan is not to improve the quality or availability of health care insurance. Rather, it is a devious means of consolidating and computerizing all available information on each of us into a new electronically digitized, centralized government data base that will ultimately lead to a complete loss of privacy, enslavement, and control. To make this enslaving system work, each of us must have a unique ID number that can be accessed by various local, national and international computer banks. That is why the National Health Board, which would be set up under this socialistic "Health Care" program, would "enforce unique identification numbers for all consumers," according to government literature. This is already being done in Canada and other countries. The Clintonista National Identity Card will become so ubiquitous, so necessary in order to comply with government regulations, that we will be forced to carry it with us at all times! That leads to a very serious problem. What if we lose it? What if someone steals it? Will we be able to function without it? Probably not! But don't fret, your "friendly" New-World-Order government has a solution. You see, there is a new, more advanced and sophisticated system of identification that cannot be lost or stolen! It will make the ID card obsolete. It's a syringe-implantable ID transponder biochip that goes into your body. A tiny microchip, the size of a grain of rice, is simply injected under the skin of your RIGHT HAND! Unlike laser-light bar code marking systems, biochip implants utilize low frequency FM radio waves (125 kHz) that pass through objects. These ID biochips are therefore much more effective and efficient than any previous method of verifying one's identity. In fact, biochip transponder technology is the only viable means of identifying living creatures. ID implants will eventually replace all existing forms of identification devices for people.' These amazing, relatively simple biochip radio transceiver implants are battery-free, passive devices that will have everyone's unalterable, international 18 digit ID number electronically encoded into them. Once they have been injected under our skin, we will have been ELECTRONICALLY BRANDED for life! Liken it to a modern, electronic TECHNOLOGICAL TATTOO if you will. Of course, most of us (especially Christians) will find such a surgically implanted government microchip unacceptable and repugnant. But it will be forced on us nevertheless. In fact many will be easily coerced into this new totalitarian system of identification because without accepting it no one will be permitted to buy or sell anything, anywhere in the coming cashless, global economy. Yes, that's correct! In the coming New World Order system of communistic control there will be no jobs, no food, no homes, no cars, no health care, no retirement benefits, no bank accounts or money without this hightech electronic ID Mark IN YOUR BODY. You'll not be able to function in any respect whatsoever without this world government ID/debit chip in your right hand. Nor will you have any privacy. Individual privacy will be eliminated! Transponder ID/debit chips will not only replace cash, checks and credit cards, they will supplant all existing forms of identification. These biochip implants will become our passports, driver's licenses, health care cards, social security cards, etc. In other words, they will become our UNIVERSAL ID and ATM / DEBIT CHIPS all in one. One World, One Biochip. Presently, ATT advertises it's new contactless, electronic smart card as, "One World. One Card." Simply pass your right hand over a radio-frequency (RFID) scanner and you will be identified instantaneously and processed automatically wherever you are. A radio wave will pass through the skin of your hand, activate your ID transponder, and transmit your unique ID number
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-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The body is branded but what of brain transplants? So, is the Brain branded? The Pied Piper ps with the way they are wiping out the bacteria that the plants and humans need for life - I wonder will the human race be around another 10 years to worry about it? Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I have that book with the same name called Implantable Biochip Technology, see below. Every technical detail on what the companies are developing for this whole system. (no preaching! - all 80 pages of technology) The address is there below and its $US 10 Nicky The Mark of the New WorldOrder: I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! http://www.prophezine.com/search/database/is2.5.html By: Terry L. Cook Clinton's proposed health care card, a disguised NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD is an ingenious device for tracking and controlling the lives of American citizens. This new ID card will allow Big Brother and Big Sister (uncle Bill and aunt Hillary, or any other New World Order representative) to maintain digitized, permanent, and accessible records on every man, woman and child in America. The government wants us to believe that this socialistic plan will benefit us by allegedly improving the quality and/or general availability of health care coverage in the United States. But nothing could be further from the truth! Indeed, the ulterior objective of this plan is not to improve the quality or availability of health care insurance. Rather, it is a devious means of consolidating and computerizing all available information on each of us into a new electronically digitized, centralized government data base that will ultimately lead to a complete loss of privacy, enslavement, and control. To make this enslaving system work, each of us must have a unique ID number that can be accessed by various local, national and international computer banks. That is why the National Health Board, which would be set up under this socialistic "Health Care" program, would "enforce unique identification numbers for all consumers," according to government literature. This is already being done in Canada and other countries. The Clintonista National Identity Card will become so ubiquitous, so necessary in order to comply with government regulations, that we will be forced to carry it with us at all times! That leads to a very serious problem. What if we lose it? What if someone steals it? Will we be able to function without it? Probably not! But don't fret, your "friendly" New-World-Order government has a solution. You see, there is a new, more advanced and sophisticated system of identification that cannot be lost or stolen! It will make the ID card obsolete. It's a syringe-implantable ID transponder biochip that goes into your body. A tiny microchip, the size of a grain of rice, is simply injected under the skin of your RIGHT HAND! Unlike laser-light bar code marking systems, biochip implants utilize low frequency FM radio waves (125 kHz) that pass through objects. These ID biochips are therefore much more effective and efficient than any previous method of verifying one's identity. In fact, biochip transponder technology is the only viable means of identifying living creatures. ID implants will eventually replace all existing forms of identification devices for people.' These amazing, relatively simple biochip radio transceiver implants are battery-free, passive devices that will have everyone's unalterable, international 18 digit ID number electronically encoded into them. Once they have been injected under our skin, we will have been ELECTRONICALLY BRANDED for life! Liken it to a modern, electronic TECHNOLOGICAL TATTOO if you will. Of course, most of us (especially Christians) will find such a surgically implanted government microchip unacceptable and repugnant. But it will be forced on us nevertheless. In fact many will be easily coerced into this new totalitarian system of identification because without accepting it no one will be permitted to buy or sell anything, anywhere in the coming cashless, global economy. Yes, that's correct! In the coming New World Order system of communistic control there will be no jobs, no food, no homes, no cars, no health care, no retirement benefits, no bank accounts or money without this hightech electronic ID Mark IN YOUR BODY. You'll not be able to function in any respect whatsoever without this world government ID/debit chip in your right hand. Nor will you have any privacy. Individual privacy will be eliminated! Transponder ID/debit chips will not only replace cash, checks and credit cards, they will supplant all existing forms of identification. These biochip implants will become our passports, driver's licenses, health care cards, social security cards, etc. In other words, they will become our UNIVERSAL ID and ATM /
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Where can I get mine? I'd just as soon do it and get it over with... It only means that the end of the earth age is closer at hand (no pun intended)... Mark me, electrify me, chip me, tattoo me, give me a card... It doesn't change what I believe *in my forehead* (the governing part of my brain)... (between the frontlets) ... NOR does it change what I will do with the information from my brain to the use of my *right* (or left) hand(s)... eagle 1 http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html "There can be no connection between the mind and the hand without the heart" ~author unknown~ Welcoming the NWO... Let's get it over with. - Original Message - From: "ThePiedPiper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The body is branded but what of brain transplants? So, is the Brain branded? The Pied Piper ps with the way they are wiping out the bacteria that the plants and humans need for life - I wonder will the human race be around another 10 years to worry about it? Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I have that book with the same name called Implantable Biochip Technology, see below. Every technical detail on what the companies are developing for this whole system. (no preaching! - all 80 pages of technology) The address is there below and its $US 10 Nicky The Mark of the New WorldOrder: I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! http://www.prophezine.com/search/database/is2.5.html By: Terry L. Cook Clinton's proposed health care card, a disguised NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD is an ingenious device for tracking and controlling the lives of American citizens. This new ID card will allow Big Brother and Big Sister (uncle Bill and aunt Hillary, or any other New World Order representative) to maintain digitized, permanent, and accessible records on every man, woman and child in America. The government wants us to believe that this socialistic plan will benefit us by allegedly improving the quality and/or general availability of health care coverage in the United States. But nothing could be further from the truth! Indeed, the ulterior objective of this plan is not to improve the quality or availability of health care insurance. Rather, it is a devious means of consolidating and computerizing all available information on each of us into a new electronically digitized, centralized government data base that will ultimately lead to a complete loss of privacy, enslavement, and control. To make this enslaving system work, each of us must have a unique ID number that can be accessed by various local, national and international computer banks. That is why the National Health Board, which would be set up under this socialistic "Health Care" program, would "enforce unique identification numbers for all consumers," according to government literature. This is already being done in Canada and other countries. The Clintonista National Identity Card will become so ubiquitous, so necessary in order to comply with government regulations, that we will be forced to carry it with us at all times! That leads to a very serious problem. What if we lose it? What if someone steals it? Will we be able to function without it? Probably not! But don't fret, your "friendly" New-World-Order government has a solution. You see, there is a new, more advanced and sophisticated system of identification that cannot be lost or stolen! It will make the ID card obsolete. It's a syringe-implantable ID transponder biochip that goes into your body. A tiny microchip, the size of a grain of rice, is simply injected under the skin of your RIGHT HAND! Unlike laser-light bar code marking systems, biochip implants utilize low frequency FM radio waves (125 kHz) that pass through objects. These ID biochips are therefore much more effective and efficient than any previous method of verifying one's identity. In fact, biochip transponder technology is the only viable means of identifying living creatures. ID implants will eventually replace all existing forms of identification devices for people.' These amazing, relatively simple biochip radio transceiver implants are battery-free, passive devices that will have everyone's unalterable, international 18 digit ID number electronically encoded into them. Once they have been injected under our skin, we will have been ELECTRONICALLY BRANDED for life! Liken it to a modern, electronic TECHNOLOGICAL TATTOO if you will. Of course, most of us (especially Christians) will find such a surgically implanted government microchip unac
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- You are absolutely right, Eagle1. The "mark" is not a physical thing. People are so worried about being forced to get a smartcard or chip implant...ridiculous! Even if this chip were to be used as an identification, it only menas that technology has improved. If we aren't going to burn for having a social security number, this is no different. I just wonder how many people would end up as refugees or dead by insisting on not getting a chip, if it were ever required. Identification or credit is not a crime against God. What did Jesus say about the coin with Caesar's image on it? Or what did Paul say about obeying the earthly rulers, for God put them in power? Put your trust in God, or you might be "marked" by the One who really counts. From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:11:22 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Where can I get mine? I'd just as soon do it and get it over with... It only means that the end of the earth age is closer at hand (no pun intended)... Mark me, electrify me, chip me, tattoo me, give me a card... It doesn't change what I believe *in my forehead* (the governing part of my brain)... (between the frontlets) ... NOR does it change what I will do with the information from my brain to the use of my *right* (or left) hand(s)... eagle 1 http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html "There can be no connection between the mind and the hand without the heart" ~author unknown~ Welcoming the NWO... Let's get it over with. - Original Message - From: "ThePiedPiper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The body is branded but what of brain transplants? So, is the Brain branded? The Pied Piper ps with the way they are wiping out the bacteria that the plants and humans need for life - I wonder will the human race be around another 10 years to worry about it? Nicky Molloy wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I have that book with the same name called Implantable Biochip Technology, see below. Every technical detail on what the companies are developing for this whole system. (no preaching! - all 80 pages of technology) The address is there below and its $US 10 Nicky The Mark of the New WorldOrder: I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! http://www.prophezine.com/search/database/is2.5.html By: Terry L. Cook Clinton's proposed health care card, a disguised NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD is an ingenious device for tracking and controlling the lives of American citizens. This new ID card will allow Big Brother and Big Sister (uncle Bill and aunt Hillary, or any other New World Order representative) to maintain digitized, permanent, and accessible records on every man, woman and child in America. The government wants us to believe that this socialistic plan will benefit us by allegedly improving the quality and/or general availability of health care coverage in the United States. But nothing could be further from the truth! Indeed, the ulterior objective of this plan is not to improve the quality or availability of health care insurance. Rather, it is a devious means of consolidating and computerizing all available information on each of us into a new electronically digitized, centralized government data base that will ultimately lead to a complete loss of privacy, enslavement, and control. To make this enslaving system work, each of us must have a unique ID number that can be accessed by various local, national and international computer banks. That is why the National Health Board, which would be set up under this socialistic "Health Care" program, would "enforce unique identification numbers for all consumers," according to government literature. This is already being done in Canada and other countries. The Clintonista National Identity Card will become so ubiquitous, so necessary in order to comply with government regulations, that we will be forced to carry it with us at all times! That leads to a very serious problem. What if we lose it? What if someone steals it? Will we be able to function without it? Probably not! But don't fret, your "friendly" New-World-Order government has a solution. You see, there is a new, more advanced and sophisticated system of identification that cannot be lost or stolen! It will make the ID card obsolete. It's a syringe-implantable I
