date:20120227

El Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:45:45 +0100, EULALIO LOPEZ escribió:

 Aqui un off topic, les cuento, resulta que quiero contratar un numero en
 skype para que me puedan marcar  (en México) a skype y poder desviarlo
 al celular o contestar en la computadora etc, tambien quisiera contratar
 un plan para llamadas nacionales, y asi poder prescindir del servicio de
 telmex(México), ustedes han tenido alguna experiencia con estos
 servicios, y bueno conocen alguna ocpion libre que me de estos
 servicios.

Bueno, yo usaba Ekiga como softphone para llamadas voip y como proveedor 
12voip¹ que tiene buenas tarifas y opciones interesantes (envío de SMS 
vía web y llamadas desde el móvil o teléfono asociado a su cuenta).

Al final, como esto de la voip funciona tan bien, me di de alta en 
LocalPhone² para obtener un número de teléfono convencional y poder 
recibir llamadas (y de regalo te llevas un iNum) y compré un teléfono 
dedicado de Cisco (multi-proveedor) con el que estoy más contenta que 
unas castañuelas O:-)

¹http://www.12voip.com
²http://www.localphone.com

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Re: /usr/bin/X lo mato y revive

2012-02-27 Thread Jhosue Rui


Hola.

Llego algo tarde al hilo.

El 25/02/12 13:10, Camaleón escribió:

El Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:29:42 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió:


On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:34:09 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com
wrote:

Es Debian 6.0.4 (squeeze)


¿Y qué haces con gdm? Deberías tener gdm3 ¿no? :-?


Coincido con esto, no se supone que el comando es /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop 
esto claro esta si tienes instalado el GDM3 y no el 2.





Si hice todo como me indicaste, miro todos los procesos y demás.

Pero usa la tty8 para cargar el escritorio.


¿Y qué tienes en la tty 7?

De todas formas que use una tty distinta de la 7 es indiferente. Curioso
pero irrelevante para el caso.


A su vez en la tty9 me sale un cartel en azul indicando

Ya existe un servidor X en ejecución en la pantalla O: Desea intentar
otro Nº de pantalla? Si responde No, GDM volverá a intentar iniciar el
servidor en O: otra vez.

Como que esta tildada


Prueba a cambiar de nivel de ejecución, pasa al 1. Es decir, en lugar de
detener el servicio gdm, ejecuta un init 1 (ojo, que te tira la red) y
entra a la consola de mantenimiento. Una vez dentro, comprueba si aún
tienes algún proceso de las X activo.

Saludos,



Por comentar.

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convertir particion de logica a primaria

2012-02-27 Thread Miguel Barrera Fernández

Hola 
Necesito convertir particion de logica a primaria, alguien sabe como hacerlo


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Re: convertir particion de logica a primaria

2012-02-27 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez

El lun, 27-02-2012 a las 13:39 -0600, Miguel Barrera Fernández escribió:
 Hola 
 Necesito convertir particion de logica a primaria, alguien sabe como hacerlo
 
backupeas los datos
eliminas la particion logica
creas la particion primaria
formateas la particion primaria
copias los datos backupeados a la particion primaria


 



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Re: convertir particion de logica a primaria

2012-02-27 Thread Felix Perez

El día 27 de febrero de 2012 17:34, Angel Claudio Alvarez
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:
 El lun, 27-02-2012 a las 13:39 -0600, Miguel Barrera Fernández escribió:
 Hola
 Necesito convertir particion de logica a primaria, alguien sabe como hacerlo

 backupeas los datos
 eliminas la particion logica
 creas la particion primaria
 formateas la particion primaria
 copias los datos backupeados a la particion primaria

Antes de todo lo anterior verificar su tengo disponible particiones
primarias para crear.

Suerte.



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fordwardear una ip externa a una interna por medio de debian

2012-02-27 Thread El Ale...

Gente buenas tardes, molesto una vez mas tengo un debian squezee
instalado y a el entro de forma remota por una cuestion de seguridad
para dar soporte a equipos dentro de la red del debian. Este consta de
dos placas de red una (LAN) y otra (WAN), algunos compaeros de aqui me
ayudaron a poner a punto mis placas, ahora la consulta va a que tengo
un router cnofigurado con una ip externa que es por donde hago un fw y
doy con este debian ¿hay alguna posibilidad de conectar por (WAN) a
una ip que esta dentro de la misma (LAN) del debian? a modo de ejemplo
mi placa (WAN) tiene la ip 192.168.0.2 mi router 200.200.200.201 (que
es el que me hace el FW a la pc, y la placa (LAN) tiene la 10.104.0.3
y yo quiero entrar a la pc que esta dentro de la lan que es la
10.104.0.12:8080, ¿este esquema es posible?, averigue un poco de
iptables pero no lo pude lograr.

Muchisimas gracias!


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Ayuda con Micrófono Webcam USB

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Jesús

Hola lista, gracias por toda la información que aportan. Necesito
vuestr@ayuda, por favor:

Por más que investigo no logro saber el device name de mi micrófono
webcam usb,
googleando veo que sugieren /dev/audio* || /dev/dsp* || /dev/mixer*, pero
nada, alsa en mi Debian no llama de ninguna de esas formas al módulo ov519.
Siguiendo instrucciones de alsa, me encuentro con esto:


The /dev/snd device interface

For now just this snippet from Takashi Iwai:


device files under /proc/asound/dev/ (or /dev/snd/)
generally the file is named as aaaCxDy,
where aaa is the service name,x the card number (0-7),y the device number (0-).

controlC? control devices (i.e. mixer, etc.)
hwC?D?  hwdep devices
midiC?D? rawmidi devices
pcmC?D?p pcm playback devices
pcmC?D?c pcm capture devices
seq sequencer device
timer timer device



como veis, se crea una carpeta en /dev llamada snd, con los pseudónimos
para el módulo, en este caso me interesa /dev/snd/pcmCXDXc como el
dispositivo de captura, pero  nada de nada, ni vlc, ni ffmpeg, ni
streamer lo reconocen como el micro.
Os agradezco vuestra atención ya que no sé a qué recurrir.

P.D.: (lsusb, dmesg, lshw, tail -f /var/log/syslog, lsmod, lspci) Nada de
esto me ha resuelto el problema, ni siquiera viendo en /proc/asound/dev y
deduciéndolo como hw:1,0

Gracias y un saludo a tod@s.

Re: Ayuda con Micrófono Webcam USB

2012-02-27 Thread Javier San Román

On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 01:22:46 usted escribió:
 Hola lista, gracias por toda la información que aportan. Necesito
 vuestr@ayuda, por favor:
 
 Por más que investigo no logro saber el device name de mi micrófono
 webcam usb,
 googleando veo que sugieren /dev/audio* || /dev/dsp* || /dev/mixer*, pero
 nada, alsa en mi Debian no llama de ninguna de esas formas al módulo ov519.
 Siguiendo instrucciones de alsa, me encuentro con esto:
 
 
 The /dev/snd device interface
 
 For now just this snippet from Takashi Iwai:
 
 
 device files under /proc/asound/dev/ (or /dev/snd/)
 generally the file is named as aaaCxDy,
 where aaa is the service name,x the card number (0-7),y the device number
 (0-).
 
 controlC? control devices (i.e. mixer, etc.)
 hwC?D?  hwdep devices
 midiC?D? rawmidi devices
 pcmC?D?p pcm playback devices
 pcmC?D?c pcm capture devices
 seq sequencer device
 timer timer device
 
 
 
 como veis, se crea una carpeta en /dev llamada snd, con los pseudónimos
 para el módulo, en este caso me interesa /dev/snd/pcmCXDXc como el
 dispositivo de captura, pero  nada de nada, ni vlc, ni ffmpeg, ni
 streamer lo reconocen como el micro.
 Os agradezco vuestra atención ya que no sé a qué recurrir.
 
 P.D.: (lsusb, dmesg, lshw, tail -f /var/log/syslog, lsmod, lspci) Nada de
 esto me ha resuelto el problema, ni siquiera viendo en /proc/asound/dev y
 deduciéndolo como hw:1,0
 
 Gracias y un saludo a tod@s.

y cat /proc/asound/cards ¿que dice?


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Re: Ayuda con Micrófono Webcam USB

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Jesús

Pues me nombra las tarjetas:
___
# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [AudioPCI   ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
  Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0x2080, irq 16
 1 [Camera ]: USB-Audio - Logitech EyeToy USB Camera
  Sony Corporation Logitech EyeToy USB Camera at
usb-:02:00.0-1, full speed

Siendo 1 la eyetoy(ov519), luego voy al paso siguiente:
_
# cat /proc/asound/card1/pcm0c/info
card: 1
device: 0
subdevice: 0
stream: CAPTURE
id: USB Audio
name: USB Audio
subname: subdevice #0
class: 0
subclass: 0
subdevices_count: 1
subdevices_avail: 1
_

Y nada.Pero claro, el administrador de sonidos de gnome, y alsamixer
lo reconocen perfectamente. No sé. Voy a mirar en asound.conf.
Gracias por la ayuda, a ver si damos en el clavo, lista.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Javier San Román deb...@caolin.net wrote:

 On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 01:22:46 usted escribió:
  Hola lista, gracias por toda la información que aportan. Necesito
  vuestr@ayuda, por favor:
 
  Por más que investigo no logro saber el device name de mi micrófono
  webcam usb,
  googleando veo que sugieren /dev/audio* || /dev/dsp* || /dev/mixer*, pero
  nada, alsa en mi Debian no llama de ninguna de esas formas al módulo ov519.
  Siguiendo instrucciones de alsa, me encuentro con esto:
 
  
  The /dev/snd device interface
 
  For now just this snippet from Takashi Iwai:
 
 
  device files under /proc/asound/dev/ (or /dev/snd/)
  generally the file is named as aaaCxDy,
  where aaa is the service name,x the card number (0-7),y the device number
  (0-).
 
  controlC? control devices (i.e. mixer, etc.)
  hwC?D?  hwdep devices
  midiC?D? rawmidi devices
  pcmC?D?p pcm playback devices
  pcmC?D?c pcm capture devices
  seq sequencer device
  timer timer device
 
 
  
  como veis, se crea una carpeta en /dev llamada snd, con los pseudónimos
  para el módulo, en este caso me interesa /dev/snd/pcmCXDXc como el
  dispositivo de captura, pero  nada de nada, ni vlc, ni ffmpeg, ni
  streamer lo reconocen como el micro.
  Os agradezco vuestra atención ya que no sé a qué recurrir.
 
  P.D.: (lsusb, dmesg, lshw, tail -f /var/log/syslog, lsmod, lspci) Nada de
  esto me ha resuelto el problema, ni siquiera viendo en /proc/asound/dev y
  deduciéndolo como hw:1,0
 
  Gracias y un saludo a tod@s.

 y cat /proc/asound/cards ¿que dice?


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RE: fordwardear una ip externa a una interna por medio de debian

2012-02-27 Thread Lic. Domingo Varela Yahuitl

Iptables es tu solucion

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Asunto: fordwardear una ip externa a una interna por medio de debian


Gente buenas tardes, molesto una vez mas tengo un debian squezee
instalado y a el entro de forma remota por una cuestion de seguridad
para dar soporte a equipos dentro de la red del debian. Este consta de
dos placas de red una (LAN) y otra (WAN), algunos compaeros de aqui me
ayudaron a poner a punto mis placas, ahora la consulta va a que tengo
un router cnofigurado con una ip externa que es por donde hago un fw y
doy con este debian ¿hay alguna posibilidad de conectar por (WAN) a
una ip que esta dentro de la misma (LAN) del debian? a modo de ejemplo
mi placa (WAN) tiene la ip 192.168.0.2 mi router 200.200.200.201 (que
es el que me hace el FW a la pc, y la placa (LAN) tiene la 10.104.0.3
y yo quiero entrar a la pc que esta dentro de la lan que es la
10.104.0.12:8080, ¿este esquema es posible?, averigue un poco de
iptables pero no lo pude lograr.

Muchisimas gracias!


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Re: Ayuda con Micrófono Webcam USB

2012-02-27 Thread Antonio Jesús

#dmesg
...
[ 3530.438607] input: ov519 as
/devices/pci:00/:00:11.0/:02:00.0/usb2/2-1/input/input6


Bueno, yo por hoy ya no doy más de sí. Espero ayuda.
De nuevo, gracias


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Re: Ayuda con Micrófono Webcam USB

2012-02-27 Thread Javier San Román

On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 02:29:40 usted escribió:
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Javier San Román deb...@caolin.net wrote:
  On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 01:22:46 usted escribió:
   Hola lista, gracias por toda la información que aportan. Necesito
   vuestr@ayuda, por favor:
   
   Por más que investigo no logro saber el device name de mi micrófono
   webcam usb,
   googleando veo que sugieren /dev/audio* || /dev/dsp* || /dev/mixer*,
   pero nada, alsa en mi Debian no llama de ninguna de esas formas al
   módulo ov519. Siguiendo instrucciones de alsa, me encuentro con esto:
   
   
   The /dev/snd device interface
   
   For now just this snippet from Takashi Iwai:
   
   
   device files under /proc/asound/dev/ (or /dev/snd/)
   generally the file is named as aaaCxDy,
   where aaa is the service name,x the card number (0-7),y the device
   number (0-).
   
   controlC? control devices (i.e. mixer, etc.)
   hwC?D?  hwdep devices
   midiC?D? rawmidi devices
   pcmC?D?p pcm playback devices
   pcmC?D?c pcm capture devices
   seq sequencer device
   timer timer device
   
   
   
   como veis, se crea una carpeta en /dev llamada snd, con los pseudónimos
   para el módulo, en este caso me interesa /dev/snd/pcmCXDXc como el
   dispositivo de captura, pero  nada de nada, ni vlc, ni ffmpeg, ni
   streamer lo reconocen como el micro.
   Os agradezco vuestra atención ya que no sé a qué recurrir.
   
   P.D.: (lsusb, dmesg, lshw, tail -f /var/log/syslog, lsmod, lspci) Nada
   de esto me ha resuelto el problema, ni siquiera viendo en
   /proc/asound/dev y deduciéndolo como hw:1,0
   
   Gracias y un saludo a tod@s.
  
  y cat /proc/asound/cards ¿que dice?

 Pues me nombra las tarjetas:
 ___
 # cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [AudioPCI   ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
   Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0x2080, irq 16
  1 [Camera ]: USB-Audio - Logitech EyeToy USB Camera
   Sony Corporation Logitech EyeToy USB Camera at
 usb-:02:00.0-1, full speed
 
 Siendo 1 la eyetoy(ov519), luego voy al paso siguiente:
 _
 # cat /proc/asound/card1/pcm0c/info
 card: 1
 device: 0
 subdevice: 0
 stream: CAPTURE
 id: USB Audio
 name: USB Audio
 subname: subdevice #0
 class: 0
 subclass: 0
 subdevices_count: 1
 subdevices_avail: 1
 _
 
 Y nada.Pero claro, el administrador de sonidos de gnome, y alsamixer
 lo reconocen perfectamente. No sé. Voy a mirar en asound.conf.
 Gracias por la ayuda, a ver si damos en el clavo, lista.


El problema, si no he entendido mal, ¿cual es?, ¿que el micrófono de la cámara 
no te captura el sonido con las aplicaciones?.

Mira a ver como tienes el .asoundrc.

Yo, en kmix (kde), tengo que activar el micrófono de la cámara para que 
capture. Es una tontería pero, ¿lo tienes marcado así y con el volumen 
arriba?.


 
  
  
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Re: Ayuda con Micrófono Webcam USB

2012-02-27 Thread Javier San Román

On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 03:37:43 usted escribió:
 On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 02:29:40 usted escribió:
  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Javier San Román deb...@caolin.net 
wrote:
   On Martes, 28 de Febrero de 2012 01:22:46 usted escribió:
Hola lista, gracias por toda la información que aportan. Necesito
vuestr@ayuda, por favor:

Por más que investigo no logro saber el device name de mi micrófono
webcam usb,
googleando veo que sugieren /dev/audio* || /dev/dsp* || /dev/mixer*,
pero nada, alsa en mi Debian no llama de ninguna de esas formas al
módulo ov519. Siguiendo instrucciones de alsa, me encuentro con esto:


The /dev/snd device interface

For now just this snippet from Takashi Iwai:


device files under /proc/asound/dev/ (or /dev/snd/)
generally the file is named as aaaCxDy,
where aaa is the service name,x the card number (0-7),y the device
number (0-).

controlC? control devices (i.e. mixer, etc.)
hwC?D?  hwdep devices
midiC?D? rawmidi devices
pcmC?D?p pcm playback devices
pcmC?D?c pcm capture devices
seq sequencer device
timer timer device



como veis, se crea una carpeta en /dev llamada snd, con los
pseudónimos para el módulo, en este caso me interesa
/dev/snd/pcmCXDXc como el dispositivo de captura, pero  nada
de nada, ni vlc, ni ffmpeg, ni streamer lo reconocen como el micro.
Os agradezco vuestra atención ya que no sé a qué recurrir.

P.D.: (lsusb, dmesg, lshw, tail -f /var/log/syslog, lsmod, lspci)
Nada de esto me ha resuelto el problema, ni siquiera viendo en
/proc/asound/dev y deduciéndolo como hw:1,0

Gracias y un saludo a tod@s.
   
   y cat /proc/asound/cards ¿que dice?
  
  Pues me nombra las tarjetas:
  ___
  # cat /proc/asound/cards
  
   0 [AudioPCI   ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
   
Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0x2080, irq 16
   
   1 [Camera ]: USB-Audio - Logitech EyeToy USB Camera
   
Sony Corporation Logitech EyeToy USB Camera at
  
  usb-:02:00.0-1, full speed
  
  Siendo 1 la eyetoy(ov519), luego voy al paso siguiente:
  _
  # cat /proc/asound/card1/pcm0c/info
  card: 1
  device: 0
  subdevice: 0
  stream: CAPTURE
  id: USB Audio
  name: USB Audio
  subname: subdevice #0
  class: 0
  subclass: 0
  subdevices_count: 1
  subdevices_avail: 1
  _
  
  Y nada.Pero claro, el administrador de sonidos de gnome, y alsamixer
  lo reconocen perfectamente. No sé. Voy a mirar en asound.conf.
  Gracias por la ayuda, a ver si damos en el clavo, lista.
 
 El problema, si no he entendido mal, ¿cual es?, ¿que el micrófono de la
 cámara no te captura el sonido con las aplicaciones?.
 
 Mira a ver como tienes el .asoundrc.
 
 Yo, en kmix (kde), tengo que activar el micrófono de la cámara para que
 capture. Es una tontería pero, ¿lo tienes marcado así y con el volumen
 arriba?.
 

Prueba a ver si Audacity te reconoce el micrófono de la webcam y puedes grabar 
sonido.

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Re:

2012-02-27 Thread P. J.

bom... nesse ambiente vc pode usar como cliente no M$ Windows o Winscp:

http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction

para o linux se for gnome o bom e velho nautilus quebra um galhão... =-D

Em 26 de fevereiro de 2012 10:37, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
Bom dia a Todos,

Estou precisando de informações e ajuda, segue abaixo o que preciso:

1 - Estou montando um servidor FTP em linux, porém, esse servidor será uma
máquina virtual DENTRO de um windows xp. Tipo, eu estou numa rede, dominio,
dentro da empresa onde trabalho, uso um desktop com windows xp sp3, quero
montar dentro desse sistema que uso, 1 servidor FTP em Linux, e quero
conseguir acessar esse servidor pelo sistema windows e por qualquer outra
maquina de rede da empresa. Tem como ? Alguem pode me da informações de
como fazer ? Muito obrigado =D

2 - Eu sei como montar o servidor FTP, minha dúvida é em relação em como
fazer para outras maquinas da rede conseguirem acessar esse servidor dentro
da maquina virtual, usando a rede da empresa. Uso o VirtualBox, queria saber
como tenho que marcar essa conexao, Bridge, Internal Network e etc.
quais configurações de IP que devo usar, etc.

Abraços.

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Re:

2012-02-27 Thread Rafael Bedendo

É só configurar a interface rede da VM em modo Bridge e configurar a 
rede de sua VM para a mesma classe de sua rede Windows.


Abs

Rafael Bedendo

Em 27-02-2012 11:49, P. J. escreveu:

bom... nesse ambiente vc pode usar como cliente no M$ Windows o Winscp:

http://winscp.net/eng/docs/introduction

para o linux se for gnome o bom e velho nautilus quebra um galhão... =-D

Em 26 de fevereiro de 2012 10:37, Rodolforof20...@gmail.com  escreveu:

Bom dia a Todos,


Estou precisando de informações e ajuda, segue abaixo o que preciso:

1 - Estou montando um servidor FTP em linux, porém, esse servidor será uma
máquina virtual DENTRO de um windows xp. Tipo, eu estou numa rede, dominio,
dentro da empresa onde trabalho, uso um desktop com windows xp sp3, quero
montar dentro desse sistema que uso, 1 servidor FTP em Linux, e quero
conseguir acessar esse servidor pelo sistema windows e por qualquer outra
maquina de rede da empresa.  Tem como ? Alguem pode me da informações de
como fazer ? Muito obrigado =D


2 - Eu sei como montar o servidor FTP, minha dúvida é em relação em como
fazer para outras maquinas da rede conseguirem acessar esse servidor dentro
da maquina virtual, usando a rede da empresa. Uso o VirtualBox, queria saber
como tenho que marcar essa conexao, Bridge, Internal Network e etc.
quais configurações de IP que devo usar, etc.




Abraços.






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gnome-terminal capturando a tecla F10

2012-02-27 Thread Fred Maranhão

Caros,

Estou acessando uma máquina via ssh de um gnome-terminal. nesta
máquina preciso realizar uma ação através da tecla f10, mas o
gnome-terminal acha que eu quero abrir o menu. Como faço para que o
gnome-terminal passe o comando para o shell?

no xterm a tecla f10 funciona. tem como funcionar no gnome-terminal?

Fred


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Re: Dica para o squid!!

2012-02-27 Thread Dane



Sarg é muito bom, e o sqstat tbm.

Legal é usar o sqstat é junto fazer um esquema que vc possa killar as 
conexões.


Fiz isso aqui na empresa, ficou excelente, principalmente para usuários 
sem conhecimento poderem killar uma conexão que está matando a banda.


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Olá Pessoal!!

Estou montando um novo firewall/squid aqui e estou avaliando algums 
softwares complementares para instalar junto com o squid, gostaria de 
dicas de software auxiliares!!!


Até o momento já está aprovadoo squidguard:

Estou avaliando o: Sarge e o Sqstat

Aceito sugestões de softwares.

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Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Olá pessoal!

Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.

Cheguei a baixar os fontes diretamente do site oficial do squid, compilei
etc e tal, mas de início já estava dando dor de cabeça. A cada
./configure ele reclamava de algum pacote. Depois a cada make, perdi um
bom tempo até conseguir compilar sem erros. Em função disso, não executei o
make install

Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em testing.
Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.

Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing fiz o
seguinte:

/etc/apt/source.list dupliquei o repositório de pacotes adicionando o
testing
deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences criando
o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
Package: *
Pin: release a=squeeze
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 50

Atualizei a lista
apt-get update

Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
apt-cache show -t testing squid3

Tudo OK, é só instalar:
apt-get install -t testing squid3

Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da versão
stable.

Obrigado pelas sugestões.

[ ]'s

Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte
conteúdo:

2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

Eu já tive de compilar sim, mas usei o método de instalar as
dependencias de compilação em uma máquina de testes (apt-get build-dep
pacote) e instalar os fontes (apt-get source pacote). A partir daí
fiz o download do fonte do site do desenvolvedor e passei os
diretórios de controle do fonte do pacote Debian pra dentro dele e
madei construir o deb.

Outra alternativa, mais simples, é verificar se no testing já tem a
versão nova, com o bug corrigido. Neste caso você adiciona a linha do
repositório de fontes do testing na máquina de testes, instalar as
dependencias de compilação com apt-get build-dep pacote e manda
baixar e compilar automaticamente com apt-get -b source pacote.

Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
escreveu:
Olá pessoal!

Configurei recentemente um servidor proxy baseado no Squid 3.1.6 no
Debian
6. Instalei via APT e configurei os detalhes para a necessidade do
ambiente.
Acontece que a versão 3.1.6 tem um BUG que já foi corrigido em versões
posteriores (a atual é 3.1.19). Como sabemos que o Debian o processo de
atualização dos pacotes é um pouco mais rigoroso, estou num dilema cruel:
compilar ou não a versão do site.

O bug afeta diretamente a estabilidade do serviço, ou seja, não dá para
conviver com ele. A última versão estável do squid já está instalada e o
servidor está exclusivamente para rodar o squid.

Ao meu ver, quando se compila uma versão específica, você acaba ficando
preso a ela. Não dá para comparar a comodidade de manter o sistema
atualizado com o gerenciador de pacotes.

Alguém já passou por esse dilema?

P.S: para quem tiver curiosidade o bug é: Bug 3177: assertion failed:
comm.cc:1583: fd = 0

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Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será alterada.
Fiz o congelamento do pacote.

echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections

[ ]'s

2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

Olá pessoal!

Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.

Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em testing.
Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.

Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing fiz
o seguinte:

Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences criando
o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
Package: *
Pin: release a=squeeze
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 50

Atualizei a lista
apt-get update

Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
apt-cache show -t testing squid3

Tudo OK, é só instalar:
apt-get install -t testing squid3

Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
versão stable.

Obrigado pelas sugestões.

[ ]'s

Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
seguinte conteúdo:

2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
escreveu:
Olá pessoal!

Ao meu ver, quando se compila uma versão específica, você acaba ficando
preso a ela. Não dá para comparar a comodidade de manter o sistema
atualizado com o gerenciador de pacotes.

Alguém já passou por esse dilema?

P.S: para quem tiver curiosidade o bug é: Bug 3177: assertion failed:
comm.cc:1583: fd = 0

[ ['s

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Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Olá Bruno!!

Só uma sugestão, não se você tem o costume de manter o sistema sempre
atualizado com o apt-get update, pode ser que essa instalação que você fez
der problemas na hora de atualizar o sistema, era bom você fazer esse teste
antes de colocar em produção.

Abraços!!

Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:41, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será
alterada. Fiz o congelamento do pacote.

echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections

[ ]'s

2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

Olá pessoal!

Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.

Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em testing.
Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.

Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing fiz
o seguinte:

Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences
criando o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
Package: *
Pin: release a=squeeze
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 50

Atualizei a lista
apt-get update

Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
apt-cache show -t testing squid3

Tudo OK, é só instalar:
apt-get install -t testing squid3

Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
versão stable.

Obrigado pelas sugestões.

[ ]'s

Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
seguinte conteúdo:

2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
escreveu:
Olá pessoal!

O bug afeta diretamente a estabilidade do serviço, ou seja, não dá para
conviver com ele. A última versão estável do squid já está instalada e
o
servidor está exclusivamente para rodar o squid.

Ao meu ver, quando se compila uma versão específica, você acaba ficando
preso a ela. Não dá para comparar a comodidade de manter o sistema
atualizado com o gerenciador de pacotes.

Alguém já passou por esse dilema?

P.S: para quem tiver curiosidade o bug é: Bug 3177: assertion failed:
comm.cc:1583: fd = 0

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Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Olá Pessoal!

Esse bug me preocupa, estou exatamente no momento de atualizar meu debian
para o 6 e o squid também, se a versão atual é bugada é um problema, alguém
aqui usa a mesma versão do Bruno e funciona?

Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:54, Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com
escreveu:

Olá Bruno!!

Abraços!!

Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:41, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será
alterada. Fiz o congelamento do pacote.

echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections

[ ]'s

2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

Olá pessoal!

Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.

Cheguei a baixar os fontes diretamente do site oficial do squid,
compilei etc e tal, mas de início já estava dando dor de cabeça. A cada
./configure ele reclamava de algum pacote. Depois a cada make, perdi um
bom tempo até conseguir compilar sem erros. Em função disso, não executei o
make install

Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em testing.
Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.

Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing
fiz o seguinte:

Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences
criando o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
Package: *
Pin: release a=squeeze
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 50

Atualizei a lista
apt-get update

Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
apt-cache show -t testing squid3

Tudo OK, é só instalar:
apt-get install -t testing squid3

Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
versão stable.

Obrigado pelas sugestões.

[ ]'s

Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
seguinte conteúdo:

2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
escreveu:
Olá pessoal!

Configurei recentemente um servidor proxy baseado no Squid 3.1.6 no
Debian
6. Instalei via APT e configurei os detalhes para a necessidade do
ambiente.
Acontece que a versão 3.1.6 tem um BUG que já foi corrigido em versões
posteriores (a atual é 3.1.19). Como sabemos que o Debian o processo
de
atualização dos pacotes é um pouco mais rigoroso, estou num dilema
cruel:
compilar ou não a versão do site.

O bug afeta diretamente a estabilidade do serviço, ou seja, não dá
para
conviver com ele. A última versão estável do squid já está instalada
e o
servidor está exclusivamente para rodar o squid.

Ao meu ver, quando se compila uma versão específica, você acaba
ficando
preso a ela. Não dá para comparar a comodidade de manter o sistema
atualizado com o gerenciador de pacotes.

Alguém já passou por esse dilema?

P.S: para quem tiver curiosidade o bug é: Bug 3177: assertion failed:
comm.cc:1583: fd = 0

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Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Olá Fagner!


Faço os updates regularmente. Esse era o meu receio em instalar o pacote do
testing. Mas fazendo o holding do pacote não garante que o mesmo não será
atualizado?

*echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections*


P.S: Percebi o BUG analisando o cache.log e o messages as saídas são algo
assim:

messages
squid[3133]: Squid Parent: child process 3139 exited due to signal 6 with
status 0

cache.log
comm_old_accept: FD 30: (22) Invalid argument
FTP data connection from unexpected server ([::]), expecting 186.228.51.73
assertion failed: comm.cc:1583: fd = 0
Starting Squid Cache version 3.1.6 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu...

2012/2/27 Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com

 Olá Pessoal!

 Esse bug me preocupa, estou exatamente no momento de atualizar meu debian
 para o 6 e o squid também, se a versão atual é bugada é um problema, alguém
 aqui usa a mesma versão do Bruno e funciona?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:54, Fagner Patricio 
 fagner.patri...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá Bruno!!

 Só uma sugestão, não se você tem o costume de manter o sistema sempre
 atualizado com o apt-get update, pode ser que essa instalação que você fez
 der problemas na hora de atualizar o sistema, era bom você fazer esse teste
 antes de colocar em produção.

 Abraços!!

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:41, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será
 alterada. Fiz o congelamento do pacote.


 echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections




 [ ]'s




 2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

 Olá pessoal!


 Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.


 Cheguei a baixar os fontes diretamente do site oficial do squid,
 compilei etc e tal, mas de início já estava dando dor de cabeça. A cada
 ./configure ele reclamava de algum pacote. Depois a cada make, perdi um
 bom tempo até conseguir compilar sem erros. Em função disso, não executei o
 make install


 Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em testing.
 Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.


 Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing
 fiz o seguinte:

 /etc/apt/source.list dupliquei o repositório de pacotes adicionando o
 testing
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free


 Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences
 criando o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
 Package: *
 Pin: release a=squeeze
 Pin-Priority: 500

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 50

 Atualizei a lista
 apt-get update


 Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
  apt-cache show -t testing squid3

 Tudo OK, é só instalar:
  apt-get install -t testing squid3


 Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
 versão stable.



 Obrigado pelas sugestões.


 [ ]'s




 Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
 seguinte conteúdo:



 2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

 Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
 mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
 squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

 Eu já tive de compilar sim, mas usei o método de instalar as
 dependencias de compilação em uma máquina de testes (apt-get build-dep
 pacote) e instalar os fontes (apt-get source pacote). A partir daí
 fiz o download do fonte do site do desenvolvedor e passei os
 diretórios de controle do fonte do pacote Debian pra dentro dele e
 madei construir o deb.

 Outra alternativa, mais simples, é verificar se no testing já tem a
 versão nova, com o bug corrigido. Neste caso você adiciona a linha do
 repositório de fontes do testing na máquina de testes, instalar as
 dependencias de compilação com apt-get build-dep pacote e manda
 baixar e compilar automaticamente com apt-get -b source pacote.

 Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
 escreveu:
  Olá pessoal!
 
 
  Configurei recentemente um servidor proxy baseado no Squid 3.1.6 no
 Debian
  6. Instalei via APT e configurei os detalhes para a necessidade do
 ambiente.
  Acontece que a versão 3.1.6 tem um BUG que já foi corrigido em
 versões
  posteriores (a atual é 3.1.19). Como sabemos que o Debian o processo
 de
  atualização dos pacotes é um pouco mais rigoroso, estou num dilema
 cruel:
  compilar ou não a versão do site.
 
  O bug afeta diretamente a estabilidade do serviço, ou seja, não dá
 para
  conviver com ele. A última versão estável do squid já está instalada
 e o
  servidor está exclusivamente para rodar o squid.
 
  Ao meu ver, quando se compila uma versão específica, você acaba
 ficando
  preso a ela. Não dá para comparar a comodidade de manter o sistema
  atualizado com o gerenciador de pacotes.
 
 
  Alguém já passou por esse dilema?
 
 
  P.S: para quem tiver curiosidade o bug é: Bug 3177: assertion failed:
  comm.cc:1583: fd = 0
 
 
  [ ['s
 
 
 
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Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Vendo na página do pacote, me parece que já é um bug conhecido a tempo:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486211
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=643328

Não se é o mesmo bug que acontece com você!!!

Os mantenedores dos pacotes tiveram dificuldades em reproduzir esse bugs
relatados

Me parece também que tem haver com o tipo de memória utilizada, qual a
máquina que vocês está usando o debian com squid?

Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 17:19, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá Fagner!


 Faço os updates regularmente. Esse era o meu receio em instalar o pacote
 do testing. Mas fazendo o holding do pacote não garante que o mesmo não
 será atualizado?


 *echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections*


 P.S: Percebi o BUG analisando o cache.log e o messages as saídas são algo
 assim:

 messages
 squid[3133]: Squid Parent: child process 3139 exited due to signal 6 with
 status 0

 cache.log
 comm_old_accept: FD 30: (22) Invalid argument
 FTP data connection from unexpected server ([::]), expecting 186.228.51.73

 assertion failed: comm.cc:1583: fd = 0
 Starting Squid Cache version 3.1.6 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu...


 2012/2/27 Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com

 Olá Pessoal!

 Esse bug me preocupa, estou exatamente no momento de atualizar meu debian
 para o 6 e o squid também, se a versão atual é bugada é um problema, alguém
 aqui usa a mesma versão do Bruno e funciona?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:54, Fagner Patricio 
 fagner.patri...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá Bruno!!

 Só uma sugestão, não se você tem o costume de manter o sistema sempre
 atualizado com o apt-get update, pode ser que essa instalação que você fez
 der problemas na hora de atualizar o sistema, era bom você fazer esse teste
 antes de colocar em produção.

 Abraços!!

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:41, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será
 alterada. Fiz o congelamento do pacote.


 echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections




 [ ]'s




 2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

 Olá pessoal!


 Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.


 Cheguei a baixar os fontes diretamente do site oficial do squid,
 compilei etc e tal, mas de início já estava dando dor de cabeça. A cada
 ./configure ele reclamava de algum pacote. Depois a cada make, perdi um
 bom tempo até conseguir compilar sem erros. Em função disso, não executei 
 o
 make install


 Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em
 testing. Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.


 Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing
 fiz o seguinte:

 /etc/apt/source.list dupliquei o repositório de pacotes adicionando o
 testing
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free


 Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences
 criando o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
 Package: *
 Pin: release a=squeeze
 Pin-Priority: 500

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 50

 Atualizei a lista
 apt-get update


 Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
  apt-cache show -t testing squid3

 Tudo OK, é só instalar:
  apt-get install -t testing squid3


 Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
 versão stable.



 Obrigado pelas sugestões.


 [ ]'s




 Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
 seguinte conteúdo:



 2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

 Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
 mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
 squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

 Eu já tive de compilar sim, mas usei o método de instalar as
 dependencias de compilação em uma máquina de testes (apt-get build-dep
 pacote) e instalar os fontes (apt-get source pacote). A partir daí
 fiz o download do fonte do site do desenvolvedor e passei os
 diretórios de controle do fonte do pacote Debian pra dentro dele e
 madei construir o deb.

 Outra alternativa, mais simples, é verificar se no testing já tem a
 versão nova, com o bug corrigido. Neste caso você adiciona a linha do
 repositório de fontes do testing na máquina de testes, instalar as
 dependencias de compilação com apt-get build-dep pacote e manda
 baixar e compilar automaticamente com apt-get -b source pacote.

 Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
 escreveu:
  Olá pessoal!
 
 
  Configurei recentemente um servidor proxy baseado no Squid 3.1.6 no
 Debian
  6. Instalei via APT e configurei os detalhes para a necessidade do
 ambiente.
  Acontece que a versão 3.1.6 tem um BUG que já foi corrigido em
 versões
  posteriores (a atual é 3.1.19). Como sabemos que o Debian o
 processo de
  atualização dos pacotes é um pouco mais rigoroso, estou num dilema
 cruel:
  compilar ou não a versão do site.
 
  O bug afeta diretamente

Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Olá Bruno!!

O problema do Update é se foi instalado alguma outra dependência no
repositório teste!!

Você percebeu isso?

Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 17:43, Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com
 escreveu:

 Vendo na página do pacote, me parece que já é um bug conhecido a tempo:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486211
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=643328

 Não se é o mesmo bug que acontece com você!!!

 Os mantenedores dos pacotes tiveram dificuldades em reproduzir esse bugs
 relatados

 Me parece também que tem haver com o tipo de memória utilizada, qual a
 máquina que vocês está usando o debian com squid?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 17:19, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá Fagner!


 Faço os updates regularmente. Esse era o meu receio em instalar o pacote
 do testing. Mas fazendo o holding do pacote não garante que o mesmo não
 será atualizado?


 *echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections*


 P.S: Percebi o BUG analisando o cache.log e o messages as saídas são algo
 assim:

 messages
 squid[3133]: Squid Parent: child process 3139 exited due to signal 6 with
 status 0

 cache.log
 comm_old_accept: FD 30: (22) Invalid argument
 FTP data connection from unexpected server ([::]), expecting
 186.228.51.73

 assertion failed: comm.cc:1583: fd = 0
 Starting Squid Cache version 3.1.6 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu...


 2012/2/27 Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com

 Olá Pessoal!

 Esse bug me preocupa, estou exatamente no momento de atualizar meu
 debian para o 6 e o squid também, se a versão atual é bugada é um problema,
 alguém aqui usa a mesma versão do Bruno e funciona?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:54, Fagner Patricio 
 fagner.patri...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá Bruno!!

 Só uma sugestão, não se você tem o costume de manter o sistema sempre
 atualizado com o apt-get update, pode ser que essa instalação que você fez
 der problemas na hora de atualizar o sistema, era bom você fazer esse teste
 antes de colocar em produção.

 Abraços!!

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:41, Bruno Ayub 
 bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será
 alterada. Fiz o congelamento do pacote.


 echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections




 [ ]'s




 2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

 Olá pessoal!


 Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.


 Cheguei a baixar os fontes diretamente do site oficial do squid,
 compilei etc e tal, mas de início já estava dando dor de cabeça. A cada
 ./configure ele reclamava de algum pacote. Depois a cada make, perdi um
 bom tempo até conseguir compilar sem erros. Em função disso, não 
 executei o
 make install


 Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em
 testing. Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.


 Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do testing
 fiz o seguinte:

 /etc/apt/source.list dupliquei o repositório de pacotes adicionando o
 testing
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free


 Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences
 criando o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
 Package: *
 Pin: release a=squeeze
 Pin-Priority: 500

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 50

 Atualizei a lista
 apt-get update


 Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
  apt-cache show -t testing squid3

 Tudo OK, é só instalar:
  apt-get install -t testing squid3


 Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
 versão stable.



 Obrigado pelas sugestões.


 [ ]'s




 Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
 seguinte conteúdo:



 2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

 Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
 mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
 squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

 Eu já tive de compilar sim, mas usei o método de instalar as
 dependencias de compilação em uma máquina de testes (apt-get
 build-dep
 pacote) e instalar os fontes (apt-get source pacote). A partir
 daí
 fiz o download do fonte do site do desenvolvedor e passei os
 diretórios de controle do fonte do pacote Debian pra dentro dele e
 madei construir o deb.

 Outra alternativa, mais simples, é verificar se no testing já tem a
 versão nova, com o bug corrigido. Neste caso você adiciona a linha do
 repositório de fontes do testing na máquina de testes, instalar as
 dependencias de compilação com apt-get build-dep pacote e manda
 baixar e compilar automaticamente com apt-get -b source pacote.

 Em 14 de fevereiro de 2012 14:53, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com
 escreveu:
  Olá pessoal!
 
 
  Configurei recentemente um servidor proxy baseado no Squid 3.1.6
 no Debian
  6. Instalei via APT e configurei os detalhes para a necessidade do
 ambiente.
  Acontece que a versão 3.1.6 tem um BUG que já foi corrigido em

Re: Compilar ou não eis a questão.

Sim,

foram poucos pacotes, todos relacionados com o squid. A máquina está
exclusiva para proxy. Já coloquei em produção e está funcionando
perfeitamente. Antes de aplicar as mudanças eu fiz um laboratório simulando
as mudanças.


Você perguntou, a configuração da máquina:

Dell 2950
16GB de RAM DDR2 667MHz


O problema era muito sutil. Mas o squid caia em questão de segundos
voltava. Se o usuário fizesse uma requisição nesse intervalo ele perceberia
a indisponibilidade.





2012/2/27 Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com

 Olá Bruno!!

 O problema do Update é se foi instalado alguma outra dependência no
 repositório teste!!

 Você percebeu isso?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 17:43, Fagner Patricio 
 fagner.patri...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Vendo na página do pacote, me parece que já é um bug conhecido a tempo:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486211
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=643328

 Não se é o mesmo bug que acontece com você!!!

 Os mantenedores dos pacotes tiveram dificuldades em reproduzir esse bugs
 relatados

 Me parece também que tem haver com o tipo de memória utilizada, qual a
 máquina que vocês está usando o debian com squid?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 17:19, Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá Fagner!


 Faço os updates regularmente. Esse era o meu receio em instalar o pacote
 do testing. Mas fazendo o holding do pacote não garante que o mesmo não
 será atualizado?


 *echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections*


 P.S: Percebi o BUG analisando o cache.log e o messages as saídas são
 algo assim:

 messages
 squid[3133]: Squid Parent: child process 3139 exited due to signal 6
 with status 0

 cache.log
 comm_old_accept: FD 30: (22) Invalid argument
 FTP data connection from unexpected server ([::]), expecting
 186.228.51.73

 assertion failed: comm.cc:1583: fd = 0
 Starting Squid Cache version 3.1.6 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu...


 2012/2/27 Fagner Patricio fagner.patri...@gmail.com

 Olá Pessoal!

 Esse bug me preocupa, estou exatamente no momento de atualizar meu
 debian para o 6 e o squid também, se a versão atual é bugada é um problema,
 alguém aqui usa a mesma versão do Bruno e funciona?

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:54, Fagner Patricio 
 fagner.patri...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá Bruno!!

 Só uma sugestão, não se você tem o costume de manter o sistema sempre
 atualizado com o apt-get update, pode ser que essa instalação que você fez
 der problemas na hora de atualizar o sistema, era bom você fazer esse 
 teste
 antes de colocar em produção.

 Abraços!!

 Em 27 de fevereiro de 2012 16:41, Bruno Ayub 
 bruno.a...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Só mais um detalhe, para garantir que a versão instalada não será
 alterada. Fiz o congelamento do pacote.


 echo squid3 hold|dpkg --set-selections




 [ ]'s




 2012/2/27 Bruno Ayub bruno.a...@gmail.com

 Olá pessoal!


 Somente para informá-los sobre a decisão.


 Cheguei a baixar os fontes diretamente do site oficial do squid,
 compilei etc e tal, mas de início já estava dando dor de cabeça. A cada
 ./configure ele reclamava de algum pacote. Depois a cada make, perdi 
 um
 bom tempo até conseguir compilar sem erros. Em função disso, não 
 executei o
 make install


 Resolvi testar a outra sugestão. Instalei a versão que está em
 testing. Atendeu perfeitamente a necessidade.


 Para manter o sistema em stable e instalar somente o squid do
 testing fiz o seguinte:

 /etc/apt/source.list dupliquei o repositório de pacotes adicionando
 o testing
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free


 Defini a prioridade de repositório no caminho /etc/apt/preferences
 criando o arquivo 00preferences com o seguinte conteúdo:
 Package: *
 Pin: release a=squeeze
 Pin-Priority: 500

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 50

 Atualizei a lista
 apt-get update


 Para verificar a versão do squid (pretendida 3.1.19)
  apt-cache show -t testing squid3

 Tudo OK, é só instalar:
  apt-get install -t testing squid3


 Como eu havia citado, essa necessidade surgiu por conta de um BUG da
 versão stable.



 Obrigado pelas sugestões.


 [ ]'s




 Dentro de /etc/apt/preferences criei o arquivo 00preferences com o
 seguinte conteúdo:



 2012/2/14 China china.lis...@gmail.com

 Normalmente as correções de bugs são feitas e distribuidas pelos DDs
 mantenedores do pacote. O que você pode fazer é procurar o time do
 squid@debian e perguntar quando haverá a incorporação.

 Eu já tive de compilar sim, mas usei o método de instalar as
 dependencias de compilação em uma máquina de testes (apt-get
 build-dep
 pacote) e instalar os fontes (apt-get source pacote). A partir
 daí
 fiz o download do fonte do site do desenvolvedor e passei os
 diretórios de controle do fonte do pacote Debian pra dentro dele e
 madei construir o deb.

 Outra alternativa, mais simples, é verificar se no testing já tem a
 versão nova, com o bug corrigido. Neste caso

Re: grub gets confused when I upgrade the kernel

Hendrik Boom wrote:
 I'm getting the kernels in the /boot partition of one system matched with 
 the file-system root partition of the other system.

I looked at the update-grub script and at first glance I don't see how
that is possible It looks for kernels in /boot.  I don't see how it
can be pulling files from some other /boot unless it is the mounted
one.  The mounted /boot should be the one that matches your current
filesystem.

Perhaps you could debug /usr/sbin/update-grub with 'set -x' and such
and see why it is doing what it is doing on your system.

Bob


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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

Jason Heeris wrote:
 I have an image of a Debian Squeeze system that I want to put onto
 multiple systems (flash-based disks for a single-board computer). I'd
 like each system to have a different hostname, but have that hostname
 persist across subsequent reboots.

If you are generating random hostnames then does it actually matter
what name the current host uses?  Would localhost be as good as any
randomly generated one?

 Is there another point in the rcS.d script sequence where I can
 persist the current hostname? After S10mountall.sh? Or is there a
 better way to achieve this that I'm missing?

You could still set the hostname randomly.  Then later come back and
write the current hostname to the /etc/hostname file when it is
writable.

But I think you might be just as well off using localhost as making
up a random name.  (shrug)

Bob


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Re: iptable time module following incorrect time

J. Bakshi wrote:
 I have the following to block facebook during 9 AM to 6 PM
   iptables -I FORWARD -p tcp -m multiport --dport 80,443 -d 69.171.224.0/19 
 -m time \ --timestart 09:00 --timestop 18:00 -j REJECT
 But the time scheduled is followed incorrectly. The stat time
 activated at 1 PM and the stop time at 23 PM. What is the wrong with
 time module ? The server timezone is set to Asia/Kolkata

Isn't that the difference between you local timezone and UTC?  I know
that --localtz is supposed to be the default but it is appearing as if
--utc is set there.

(And isn't your timezone +0530 not +0500 so shouldn't that have been
1:30 and 23:30?
  $ TZ=Asia/Kolkata date -R -d 9:00
  Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:00:00 +0530
)

Try setting --localtz explicitly.  Or try subtracting your timezone
+0530 from the timestart and timestop options with --timestart 03:30
--timestop 12:30.  Or try setting the times in UTC.

Bob


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Re: iptable time module following incorrect time

2012-02-27 Thread Dom


On 27/02/12 06:07, J. Bakshi wrote:


Hello,

I have the following to block facebook during 9 AM to 6 PM

``
iptables -I FORWARD -p tcp -m multiport --dport 80,443 -d 69.171.224.0/19  -m 
time \
   --timestart 09:00 --timestop 18:00 -j REJECT
`

But the time scheduled is followed incorrectly. The stat time activated at 1 PM 
and the stop time
at 23 PM. What is the wrong with time module ? The server timezone is set to 
Asia/Kolkata

Thanks




From man iptables:

All times are interpreted as UTC by default.

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Re: [1/2OT] something about sed

lina wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
 Lina, I am dissappointed and hurt that my messages aren't of high
 enough quality to make the cut for your reading.  What may I do to
 improve them?  :-)
 
 Oh Bob, I am terribly wrong (haha ... I am kidding here. gotta be
 serious. please don't be disappointed and really appreciate you
 pointed it out.)
 sometimes I just missed lots of things, and barely realized it.

That's okay.  Obviously I was mostly just having fun with that
comment.  There is always too much email.

 friend's girlfriend, she told me that sometimes some person know how
 to swim fast, but not necessarily know how to teach people.

That is very true.  Being good at doing something does not mean that
you are good at teaching something.

 she implied that I shouldn't have took advice from everyone. she was
 an innocent bystander, in swimming pool she never said something
 about how to swim. But I was shocked (even I didn't give any
 comments about her smart insight at that time.)

I disagree with your friend that you shouldn't listen to the advice of
other people, even those that might not know what they are doing.
Instead I think you should listen and make your own judgement about
whether it is worthwhile or not.  Some advice you should ignore.  And
it might even be this advice right now.  Or maybe not.  You will have
to decide.

But I think there is something to learn from everyone.  Even if
someone doesn't know how to teach then if you know how to learn then
you can learn from them even if they cannot teach.  It is more work
and effort for the student but sometimes it is worthwhile.

I am a pilot.  I learned to fly in the modern age in an old vintage
taildragger.  One of my instructors is an awesomely good pilot.  He is
a stereotypical grissled old grey haired guy.  I love to fly with
him because he is just so good at what he does.  But he is a terrible
teacher!  I have to pry the knowledge out of him.  It is hard.  If I
just flew with him and had him sign off my logbook that he flew with
me then I wouldn't have learned anything.  But knowing I have to work
for it means that I am taking it as my job to learn and so I ask him
questions and take an active approach to learning from him.  In doing
this I have picked up some lessons that have been invaluable to me.  I
wouldn't have gotten those anywhere else.

 What's happened on that learning is the same as what's going on with
 this learning. I just feel I am not good, so wanna to improve by
 following others and then sometimes even lost something true.

Then you have taken the first step.  Good job!  The journey of 10,000
miles begins with a single step.  If you are motivated and persistent
then you will get there.  But often a goal like this is always a
moving target.  With something like this you never reach an end.  I
know that I have not reached mine.  But that is okay.  Life is a
journey, not a destination.  It is the journey and how you travel it
that is important.

Good luck!
Bob


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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

2012-02-27 Thread Jason Heeris

On 27 February 2012 16:19, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 If you are generating random hostnames then does it actually matter
 what name the current host uses?  Would localhost be as good as any
 randomly generated one?

The randomness is needed to avoid name collisions when multiple
devices are running. They offer SSH/SFTP and Samba services over the
network, and need to be available by hostname rather than IP address
(via Avahi and whatever Samba uses, NetBIOS I think).

 You could still set the hostname randomly.  Then later come back and
 write the current hostname to the /etc/hostname file when it is
 writable.

Later in the rcS sequence, or in rc[2-5]?

Cheers,
Jason


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Re: iptable time module following incorrect time

Dom wrote:
 From man iptables:
 
 All times are interpreted as UTC by default.

Aha!  This is a change beween Squeeze and Wheezy.
The Squeeze version says:

   --localtz
  Interpret the times given for --datestart, --datestop,
  --timestart and --timestop to be local kernel
  time. (Default)

But the Wheezy/Sid version does say utc as you indicate.  And the
--utc and --localtz options have been removed.  So this is a behavior
change between the Squeeze and Wheezy.

Bob


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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

Jason Heeris wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  You could still set the hostname randomly.  Then later come back and
  write the current hostname to the /etc/hostname file when it is
  writable.
 
 Later in the rcS sequence, or in rc[2-5]?

I would do it later in runlevel 2 (same as 2-5).  Even at the very end
would be fine.  You could use Required-Start: $all if you like.  It
just needs to happen once and at the very end of the boot should be
fine.  Then the filesystem is mounted read-write and the file can be
updated with the current hostname.  Should work fine.

Alternatively instead of a random name have you considered using the
name it gets from reverse dns lookup of the ip address?  Still
wondering about the whole random hostname thing.  But feel free to
ignore my questions here.  If you know that is what you want then that
is fine with me.

Be sure to understand The Birthday Paradox if you go down the path of
random hostnames.  It surprises people who are not aware of it.

  If you are generating random hostnames then does it actually matter
  what name the current host uses?  Would localhost be as good as any
  randomly generated one?
 
 The randomness is needed to avoid name collisions when multiple
 devices are running. They offer SSH/SFTP and Samba services over the
 network, and need to be available by hostname rather than IP address
 (via Avahi and whatever Samba uses, NetBIOS I think).

Of course I am sitting here thinking that other hosts use dns to look
up the name and to get an ip address.  That is independent of the
hostname that actually exists on the host at that address.  And so the
hostname is rather irrelevant.

But I see now you mentioning avahi and netbios and some other scruffy
protocols that I have never taken the time to understand.  So I will
stop while I am behind.  :-)

Bob


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Re: [1/2OT] something about sed


On Monday 27,February,2012 04:49 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

lina wrote:

Bob Proulx wrote:

Lina, I am dissappointed and hurt that my messages aren't of high
enough quality to make the cut for your reading.  What may I do to
improve them?  :-)


Oh Bob, I am terribly wrong (haha ... I am kidding here. gotta be
serious. please don't be disappointed and really appreciate you
pointed it out.)
sometimes I just missed lots of things, and barely realized it.


That's okay.  Obviously I was mostly just having fun with that
comment.  There is always too much email.


friend's girlfriend, she told me that sometimes some person know how
to swim fast, but not necessarily know how to teach people.


That is very true.  Being good at doing something does not mean that
you are good at teaching something.


she implied that I shouldn't have took advice from everyone. she was
an innocent bystander, in swimming pool she never said something
about how to swim. But I was shocked (even I didn't give any
comments about her smart insight at that time.)


I disagree with your friend that you shouldn't listen to the advice of
other people, even those that might not know what they are doing.
Instead I think you should listen and make your own judgement about
whether it is worthwhile or not.  Some advice you should ignore.  And
it might even be this advice right now.  Or maybe not.  You will have
to decide.

But I think there is something to learn from everyone.  Even if
someone doesn't know how to teach then if you know how to learn then
you can learn from them even if they cannot teach.  It is more work
and effort for the student but sometimes it is worthwhile.



I do love learning form others and very open about advice. Just another 
thing inspired me. that girl once she stayed in another side of swimming 
pool, away form us. to correct her position alone. Her swimming has 
already been very perfect in my eyes. sometimes once we know the key 
points, what we might really needs is more practice than advice. Even 
for scripting, actually sometimes I know something basic, what I need 
most maybe just thinking and writing my own, not blindly following.



I am a pilot.  I learned to fly in the modern age in an old vintage

cool.

taildragger.  One of my instructors is an awesomely good pilot.  He is
a stereotypical grissled old grey haired guy.  I love to fly with
him because he is just so good at what he does.  But he is a terrible
teacher!  I have to pry the knowledge out of him.  It is hard.  If I
just flew with him and had him sign off my logbook that he flew with
me then I wouldn't have learned anything.  But knowing I have to work
for it means that I am taking it as my job to learn and so I ask him
questions and take an active approach to learning from him.  In doing
this I have picked up some lessons that have been invaluable to me.  I
wouldn't have gotten those anywhere else.


What's happened on that learning is the same as what's going on with
this learning. I just feel I am not good, so wanna to improve by
following others and then sometimes even lost something true.


Then you have taken the first step.  Good job!  The journey of 10,000
miles begins with a single step.  If you are motivated and persistent
then you will get there.  But often a goal like this is always a
moving target.  With something like this you never reach an end.  I
know that I have not reached mine.  But that is okay.  Life is a
journey, not a destination.  It is the journey and how you travel it
that is important.


Thanks. Just recently I felt I am confused/lost in many things. The 
judgment I made neither poor nor wrong, and for the things I should 
really focus on just failed to being took seriously, lost balance. 
Anyway, I gotta stop now, otherwise the 1/2 OT will slide to 100% OT.




Good luck!


Best wishes,


Bob



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Re: Bad news for Epson Perfection v330 - SOLVED

2012-02-27 Thread Anthony Campbell

On 24 Feb 2012, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
 On 02/15/2012 02:29 PM, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  On 15 Feb 2012, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 
  Sorry to follow up to myself but I found a solution. The missing
  dependency was libltdl3, which is no longer available. But after more
  googling I found libltdl3_1.5.26-4+lenny1_i386.deb. This allows me to
  install iscan. Panic over - apologies for over-reaction.
 
 I have this same scanner, and I was surprised to find out that it
 wouldn't work out of the box with Debian Squeeze.
 
 I eventually found this same solution (using iscan), including
 grabbing libtld3 from the Lenny archive.
 
 It should be easier than this.
 


According to a correspondent on uk.comp.os.linux I downloaded the wrong
file. I should have got iscan_2.28.1-3.ltdl7_i386.deb, which would have
included the missing library. As this correspondent rightly remarks, the
Epson site is confusing. I have pointed this out to them.

AC


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Re: iptable time module following incorrect time

2012-02-27 Thread J. Bakshi

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:52:46 -0700
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Dom wrote:
  From man iptables:
  
  All times are interpreted as UTC by default.
 
 Aha!  This is a change beween Squeeze and Wheezy.
 The Squeeze version says:
 
--localtz
   Interpret the times given for --datestart, --datestop,
   --timestart and --timestop to be local kernel
   time. (Default)
 
 But the Wheezy/Sid version does say utc as you indicate.  And the
 --utc and --localtz options have been removed.  So this is a behavior
 change between the Squeeze and Wheezy.
 
 Bob

Many many thanks to all of you for pointing out the issue.
When I look into squeeze I get  --localtz 
BUT
in wheezy I get  --kerneltz

In wheezy it also warns that

`
The  caveat with the kernel timezone is that Linux distributions may ignore to 
set the kernel timezone, 
and instead only set the system time. Even if a particular distribution does 
set the timezone at boot, it
is usually does not keep the kernel timezone offset - which is what changes on 
DST - up to date. 
ntpd will not touch the kernel timezone, so running it will not resolve the 
issue. As such, one may encounter a
timezone that is always +, or one that is wrong half of the time of the 
year. 
As such, using --kerneltz is highly discouraged.

`

So I am continuing with UTC , once again thanks to all of you.



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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

2012-02-27 Thread Jason Heeris

On 27 February 2012 17:05, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
I would do it later in runlevel 2 (same as 2-5). Even at the very end
would be fine. You could use Required-Start: $all if you like.

I'll try it.

Alternatively instead of a random name have you considered using the
name it gets from reverse dns lookup of the ip address?

The IP address will change depending on where it's plugged in, so it
won't be constant for a given device.

Be sure to understand The Birthday Paradox if you go down the path of
random hostnames. It surprises people who are not aware of it.

Heh, yes, I know about that! I'm pretty sure, given the number of
total devices, there will be enough room in the
random-letter-number-space.

Of course I am sitting here thinking that other hosts use dns to look
up the name and to get an ip address. That is independent of the
hostname that actually exists on the host at that address. And so the
hostname is rather irrelevant.

But I see now you mentioning avahi and netbios and some other scruffy
protocols that I have never taken the time to understand. So I will
stop while I am behind. :-)

mDNS (and NetBIOS, maybe?) operate a bit differently, I think. I mean,
you're half right — either way, the technician has to log in to the
machine to find out what the IP/random string is. BUT when there's a
bunch of other things plugged in to the network, it'll be much easier
to find it if there's an obvious prefix. Plus there's the fact that
the IP address will not be consistent, and will not allow us to
identify the machine again later, or if it's offline.

Cheers,
Jason

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Re: Wheezy - aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get dist-upgrade

2012-02-27 Thread Monsieur Louk

I think you'll find every thing you need in the Debian doc:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal

Quote: The difference between safe-upgrade/upgrade and full-upgrade/
dist-upgrade only appears when new versions of packages stand in different
dependency relationships from old versions of those packages. The aptitude
safe-upgrade command does not install new packages nor remove installed
packages.

HTH

Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Keith McKenzie


On 27/02/12 10:11, Weaver wrote:

Hello one and all.

I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
what's good?
Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.

I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.

re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
stable, etc,?

Thanking you for any time and trouble.
Regards,

Weaver.
   

You'll have to work at understanding how to browse with them.

I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links',  'elinks'; I 
didn't get on with any of them.


The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript  flash, 
etc. They don't conform to www standards.



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Re: Wheezy - aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get dist-upgrade

2012-02-27 Thread Shaun

On 27/02/2012 02:38, Whit Hansell wrote:
 OK, Y'all.  Confusin', confusin', confusin.
 
 
 Quetjun'  Is it safe to do an apt-get dist-upgrade?  I mean it says
 it will add over a Gig of new files and stuff while removing a number of
 files.  I know that when I do an aptitude safe-upgraade I always get
 recommended files at the end of the statement and assume that those
 recommended files are a big part of this upgrade.
 
 Can anyone shed some light on this and let me know I'm most likely NOT
 going to brick my system by doing this major apt-get dist-upgrade?

The equivalent of aptitude safe-upgrade is apt-get upgrade.


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Re: Exim : change hostname in SMTP greeting

2012-02-27 Thread Shaun

On 26/02/2012 16:13, Camaleón wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:38:41 +, Shaun wrote:
So you basically want to change the SMTP greeting?

Yes, but I wanted to give the reason why also. Just in case it changes
the solution or recommendation.

MAIN_HARDCODE_PRIMARY_HOSTNAME='mail.mydomain.com' in
The above seems to indicate the used variable is not recognized, at least
in that config file... Mmm, I've found this:

Indeed. But strangely, despite this, it still works. The hostname in the
SMTP greeting _is_ changed. Bizarre.

1.2.3. How does exim find out its host name to use in HELO/EHLO?
http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#How_does_exim_find_out_its_host_name_to_use_in_HELO.2BAC8-EHLO.3F

So I'm not sure you really wanted to do this because editing the primary
hostname for a MUA will make deep changes on what hosts can send/relay
from/to destinations :-/

I read this and it basically says primary_hostname isn't used by Debian
and changing it is dangerous. changing the hostname _should_ only
change what is regarded as another delivery location _aside_ from the
configured dc_other_hostnames. i.e. the domains in dc_other_hostnames
should still be accepted just fine.

I don't know Exim too much (I'm a Postfix fellow) but it seems there is a
variable that takes cares of the welcome message (dc_smtp_banner)
although not sure if this will make your DNS tool checker happier :-)

I'll take a look into dc_smtp_banner to see if it can be used. Thanks. I
also wanted to just check with the people here that the suggestion by
this DNS health checking tool was actually good. i.e. I'm not following
bad advice.

Shaun

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NFS trouble

2012-02-27 Thread Raffaele Morelli

Hi,

I am setting up (tryin at least) a nfs mount on a remote machine, there's a
firewall in between so I asked the net administrator to open ports 111 and
2049 on the server.

/etc/exports on the server is
/home/username/ CLIENT_IP(ro,sync)

mount command is
mount -v -t nfs REMOTE_IP:/home/username/ /local/mount/point

I got this error:

mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Feb 27 11:28:00 2012
mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=REMOTE_IP,
clientaddr=CLIENT_IP'
mount.nfs: mount(2): No such file or directory
mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'addr=remote_ip_addr'
mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6
mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049
mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17
mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 34449
mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Timed out
mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6
mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 58566

showmount -e REMOTE_IP fails with
rpc mount export: RPC: Timed out

- server is running debian squeeze with nfs-kernel-server from wheezy
- client is running debian wheezy

any idea?

regards

Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Jude DaShiell

There is a learning curve to edbrowse, but it does do javascript if the 
latest version is used.  In that package is a setup-ebrc script that has 
to be run by a user not root once package installation is complete and the 
script needs to be in the user's directory when run.  The support group 
for edbrowse is commandline-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and it's usually 
pretty low volume.  Unfortunately with edbrowse debian version one of its 
real dependencies isn't downloaded along with the package but that's on 
the package maintainers.  You won't need the dependency until you run into 
javascript and /usr/share/edbrowse-3.xx has a good readme file in it.On 
Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Keith McKenzie wrote:

 On 27/02/12 10:11, Weaver wrote:
  Hello one and all.
 
  I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
  what's good?
  Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
  is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.
 
  I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.
 
  re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
  stable, etc,?
 
  Thanking you for any time and trouble.
  Regards,
 
  Weaver.
 
 You'll have to work at understanding how to browse with them.
 
 I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links',  'elinks'; I didn't
 get on with any of them.
 
 The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript  flash, etc. They
 don't conform to www standards.
 
 
 


Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net
http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html


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NFS trouble

2012-02-27 Thread Raffaele Morelli

Hi,

I am setting up (tryin at least) a nfs mount on a remote machine, there's a
firewall in between so I asked the net administrator to open ports 111 and
2049 on the server.

/etc/exports on the server is
/home/username/ CLIENT_IP(ro,sync)

mount command is
mount -v -t nfs REMOTE_IP:/home/username/ /local/mount/point

I got this error:

mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Feb 27 11:28:00 2012
mount.nfs: trying text-based options
'vers=4,addr=REMOTE_IP,clientaddr=CLIENT_IP'
mount.nfs: mount(2): No such file or directory
mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'addr=remote_ip_addr'
mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6
mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049
mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17
mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 34449
mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Timed out
mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6
mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 58566

showmount -e REMOTE_IP fails with
rpc mount export: RPC: Timed out

- server is running debian squeeze with nfs-kernel-server from wheezy
- client is running debian wheezy

any idea?

regards
-r

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #325

2012-02-27 Thread pastor alexander


fairly basic function, bootcd doesnt produce a bootable image.
seeing this is a simple command that works without complication or error  
in my pclinuxos, am i missing something??

is there some other way of doing a simple remaster in debian??
it starts to boot then craps on about permission changes and hangs.
remastersys stopped working after an upgrade. which is new to me also.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:20:27 +1100,  
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:



Content-Type: text/plain

debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2012 : Issue 325

Today's Topics:
  Re: iceweasel update from 9 to 10.0.  [ Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk ]
  Re: New computer planned  [ Doug  
dmcgarr...@optonline.net ]

  Re: New computer planned  [ Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org ]
  [SOLVED] Re: iceweasel update from 9  [ Eike Lantzsch zp6...@gmx.net  
]
  Re: How to avoid screen blanking? [ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  
hmh@de ]
  Wheezy - aptitude safe-upgrade vs ap  [ Whit Hansell  
skippe...@comcast.net ]

  Box-drawing characters.   [ peasth...@shaw.ca ]
  Re: [1/2OT] something about sed   [ lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com  
]

  Re: Re: Re: How to avoid screen blan  [ Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com ]
  Re: is there no sane, minimal, graph  [ Celejar cele...@gmail.com ]
  Re: grub gets confused when I upgrad  [ Hendrik Boom  
hend...@topoi.pooq.co ]
  Persisting a one-off hostname change  [ Jason Heeris  
jason.hee...@gmail.co ]
  No sound from Adobe's flash player[ Stefan Monnier  
monnier@iro.umontre ]
  Re: is there no sane, minimal, graph  [  
=?UTF-8?B?Sm9oYW4gR3LDtm5xdmlzdA==? ]
  =?UTF-8?Q?Zosta=C5=82o_ma=C5=82o_cza  [ konta...@pilki-2012.pl  
kontakt2@ ]
  iptable time module following incorr  [ J. Bakshi  
baksh...@gmail.com ]
  Re: notify osd stop working   [ J. Bakshi  
baksh...@gmail.com ]

  Re: grub gets confused when I upgrad  [ Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com ]




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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread SM

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:11:59AM -0800, Weaver wrote:
 I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
 what's good?
 snip
 re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
 stable, etc,?

Don't know about intuitive. There's more or less a learning curve in
any of these, IMO. w3m gets my vote. Easily customized once you get
the hang of it.

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gcc unable to find 32-bit gtk-x11-2.0 library (x86_64)

2012-02-27 Thread Andreas Sewe

Hi all,

I am currently investigating a build failure of GNU Classpath/Jikes RVM
on Debian Squeeze 6.0.4 (cf. http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/RVM-942):

The problem is that gcc is unable to find the 32-bit gtk-x11-2.0
library, even though it sits right there in /usr/lib32:

 ls /usr/lib32/libgdk-x11-2.0*
 /usr/lib32/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0  /usr/lib32/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1

The offending gcc command used by during the Jikes RVM build boils down
to this:

 gcc -m32 -L/usr/lib32 -lgdk-x11-2.0
 /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible 
 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../libgdk-x11-2.0.so when searching 
 for -lgdk-x11-2.0
 /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible 
 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../libgdk-x11-2.0.a when searching 
 for -lgdk-x11-2.0
 /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so when searching 
 for -lgdk-x11-2.0
 /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.a when searching 
 for -lgdk-x11-2.0
 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk-x11-2.0

(The -m32 is needed as Jikes RVM itself is really a 32-bit VM.)

Also, /usr/lib32 *is* part of gcc's search dirs, at least as far as I
can tell:

 gcc -m32 -L/usr/lib32 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -print-search-dirs  
 install: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/
 programs: 
 =/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/:/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/bin/
 libraries: 
 =/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/../lib32/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib32/:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/lib/../lib32/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/usr/lib/../lib32/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/32/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/../lib32/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/lib/:/usr/lib/x86_64-
linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/

Does anyone see what's causing the problem? (It's probably really
obvious for someone more experienced with this 32/64-bit mess, but
Google didn't turn up an answer useful to me.)

Best wishes,

Andreas


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Re: Problem Installing libc6 (eglibc) from netboot image

On Jo, 23 feb 12, 18:33:13, Bob Proulx wrote:
 
 You realize that skype is one of those evil applications!  A kitten
 dies every time another user signs up for it.  :-)

I'd be very happy to know of any real alternative that can do:

- sound + video
- NAT traversal
- support for Linux, Windows and Mac OS X

Thanks,
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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:53:58 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

 On 26/02/12 17:30, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:59:16 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

 Whenever I start an xterm, I notice that it starts in ~/Documents
 rather than in the home directory. Why is that? Where is it set?

 And can it be set to the HOME directory?

 Weird... are you running xterm inside GNOME or KDE session? Have you
 tried with another console (gnome-terminal or konsole)? Does the same
 happen when you go fall to init 1 from a tty and run xterm from there?

 It could be that some environmental variable is taking preference over
 xterm settings but I'm running GNOME in up-to-date testing and this is
 not happening here :-?


 I'm running KDE on a siduction distribution. Konsole starts in $HOME.
 Xterms started from the KDE Launcher-System-Uxterm or Xterm start in
 ~/Documents. There's nothing in the environment which mentions
 ~/Documents. I've been through all the KDE settings and there's no
 mention of it. It is definitely weird.

Sure, it's not the usual behaviour.

Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE) and 
issue xterm from there? If that works, you will have to investigate 
your KDE settings and look for any configuration value that can be making 
noise here as Hans-J. Ullrich suggested.

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Re: New computer planned

On Vi, 24 feb 12, 15:34:51, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 
 I recommend Wheezy for Sandybridge. For Squeeze you´d need recent 
 backports of kernel, X.org and mesa.

Which are available in backports.

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Re: NFS trouble

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Raffaele Morelli
raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am setting up (tryin at least) a nfs mount on a remote machine, there's a
 firewall in between so I asked the net administrator to open ports 111 and
 2049 on the server.

 /etc/exports on the server is
 /home/username/ CLIENT_IP(ro,sync)

 mount command is
 mount -v -t nfs REMOTE_IP:/home/username/ /local/mount/point

 I got this error:

 mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Feb 27 11:28:00 2012
 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=REMOTE_IP,
 clientaddr=CLIENT_IP'
 mount.nfs: mount(2): No such file or directory
 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'addr=remote_ip_addr'
 mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6
 mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049
 mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17
 mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 34449
 mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Timed out
 mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6
 mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 58566

 showmount -e REMOTE_IP fails with
 rpc mount export: RPC: Timed out

 - server is running debian squeeze with nfs-kernel-server from wheezy
 - client is running debian wheezy

 any idea?

(untested on wheezy but ok on squeeze)

You have to use static ports for statd, mountd, and lockd if you're
not using nfsv4. (You don't have to use the same static assignments
used below.)

- Set
STATDOPTS=--port 4003 --outgoing-port 4004
in /etc/default/nfs-common

- Set
RPCMOUNTDOPTS=-p 4002
in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server

- Set
options lockd nlm_udpport=4001 nlm_tcpport=4001
in /etc/modprobe.d/lockd.conf

- Open the relevant ports with iptables


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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE) and
 issue xterm from there?

No X, no xterm. :(


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rsync episode


Hi,

When I tried the rsync -rvz source destination

It re-copied part of already-copied, any idea to prevent it.

Thanks with best regards,


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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 February 2012 16:19, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 If you are generating random hostnames then does it actually matter
 what name the current host uses?  Would localhost be as good as any
 randomly generated one?

 The randomness is needed to avoid name collisions when multiple
 devices are running. They offer SSH/SFTP and Samba services over the
 network, and need to be available by hostname rather than IP address
 (via Avahi and whatever Samba uses, NetBIOS I think).

Aren't your users going to hate the random names?

Will they know to use hostname.local for ssh/sftp?


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Re: Mutt and HTML signatures

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:07:59 -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

 On Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:22:20 +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 I feel your pain :-)
 
 You sound like Master Yoda :-D
 
 I hope this is not the way to the dark side...

I still have to think about that :-)
 
  Is there any way to use HTML signatures with Mutt? More than 10 years
  that I use Mutt and I would not like having to change it just for
  this.  I tried using a signature file with HTML code, but after
  reviewing the receipt of the message, HTML code is seen rather than
  rendering.
 
 Sure! You can just create html encoding messages with Ctrl+T (default
 combo) and change the Content-Type: header field to text/html
 instead text/plain. Then write down (or append) html code tags on
 your message - or signature template- and that should be all.
 
 Interesting... the problem is to manually type the text with HTML tags
 is depressing. Is there any command line HTML editor can be used with
 Mutt?

Uf, maybe you're asking too much for a text based MUA :-)

I know you can instruct Mutt to use an external editor of your choice 
(and thus you can call any html editor of your liking) but I'm not sure 
if that solution will work fine or if there is a better way to get the 
job done. 

I would definitely ask this at Mutt's mailing list, although my guess is 
that people in there won't be very much interested in such things like 
seeing html code in their lovely e-mail client they can be able to tell 
you the best ways to do this and maybe even some alternatives (like 
having a set of templates or pre-formatted messages...).
 
 It also occurs to me that another alternative would be to write the
 message body in plain text as one normally does, then to have some
 process to attach the HTML version for that version in plain text, each
 with its signature in plain text and HTML as appropriate. Is that
 possible?

Yup, I think it can be feasible. 

Anyway, what I do (and usually gives me the best results) is keep things 
separate: at work I use Thunderbird that allows me send/receive all that 
fancy messages with that big banners and company signatures, disclaimers 
at the bottom, et al. For my own stuff, I use Mutt with my Gmail account 
and a newsreader for mailing lists. 

Just another possibility for your consideration.
 
 A few annoyances that must be taken to add two silly pictures when there
 are more important things as using the time to more productive things as
 working.

Agree. 

Moreover, my guess is that if you only need to put some basic html code 
in the signature, you can set two Mutt profiles: one for html and another 
for text based messages with a predefined Content-Type: header on each 
them so you don' have to start making changes on the fly. Also, for the 
html profile you can define a signature with the required code and write 
the body of the message with no formatting at all. While this is not 
compliant to html coding standards, I think that most of the MUA will 
render the message just fine, so maybe something worth to try.

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Re: rsync episode

2012-02-27 Thread Shaun

On 27/02/2012 12:49, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I tried the rsync -rvz source destination
 
 It re-copied part of already-copied, any idea to prevent it.
 
 Thanks with best regards,
 
 

rsync -avz


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Re: Box-drawing characters.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:08:11 -0800, peasthope wrote:

 This Squeeze  Iceweasel has access to a font of box-drawing characters
 and renders them as described here.
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_drawing_character;
 
 Which package would be providing this font?  Can anyone tell me, or
 least tell me how to discover the answer?

I don't understand the question.

What kind of symbols do you wnat to render? Anyone of these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box-drawing_character

If so, in GNOME you can enter unicode characters with this combo:

right ctrl+shift+u (release the keys) [+ code] [enter]

I.e., 

To get ┛ I have to type ctrl+shift+u+251B
To get ╠ I have to type ctrl+shift+u+2560

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Re: ext browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Johann Spies

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:32:29PM +0200, Keith McKenzie wrote:

 I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links',  'elinks'; I 
 didn't get on with any of them.
 
 The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript  flash, 
 etc. They don't conform to www standards.

links2 handles javascript and can be used as in graphical mode also.

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Re: Wireless networking in Debian

On Vi, 24 feb 12, 09:44:31, George wrote:
 I have a Compaq CQ60 laptop running squeeze, and I have never gotten
 wireless networking to work. My chipset appears to be supported,
 however wicd never detects any networks in the area (even though there
 are several) and nm-tool reports State: unavailable for the network
 adapter.
 
 I know that I'm not providing all the information, but I don't really
 know where to start.

dmesg | grep -i firmware

and look for missing firmware files. You can find the correct package 
with

apt-cache search filename

because firmware packages usually (always?) mention the filename in the 
description. You will need to enable non-free first.

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Re: rsync episode

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Shaun deb...@gmsl.co.uk wrote:
 On 27/02/2012 12:49, lina wrote:
 Hi,

 When I tried the rsync -rvz source destination

 It re-copied part of already-copied, any idea to prevent it.

 Thanks with best regards,



 rsync -avz

Thanks,

Still the same and pretty weird is that it's only partial and every
time form that points.



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Re: temperature

2012-02-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:40:16 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jiduag$69j$3...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:56:20 +0100, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote:
 
  which package to use to see the hardware temperature on AMD
  FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor and GPU using  Debian Squeeze, Linux
  2.6.32-5-amd64
 
 lm-sensors? :-)
 
  I use 'sensors' (first I use 'sensors-detect' to detect it) and
  widgets on KDE Desktop, but there no information about CPU
  temperature and also no information about GPU temperature. I have
  the following card: GeForce with CUDA GTX 550Ti MSI 1GB 2xDVI 
  mHDMI (PCI-E) Cyclone II
 
 I don't know if lm-sensors can read the temps for nvidia cards when
 using the closed source driver. Are you using nuvó

..she meant nouveau, X.org's driver.

 or nvidia's own
 driver for your VGA card?
 
 (btw, nvidia driver provides an utility -nvidia-settings- to read the 
 card temps)
 
  I have a water cooling system.
  
  I got:
  # sensors
  it8720-isa-0228
 
 It seems that you have only loaded one kernel module (it87). Did 
 sensors-detect suggest any additional modules to load?
 
 (...)
  fan1:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM) 
  fan2:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM) 
  fan3:587 RPM  (min =0 RPM) 
  fan4:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM) 
 
 These are the detected fan sensors. As you're using a water cooling
 system, having only one fan enabled can be right but does this match
 with your current chassis configuration?
 
  temp1:   +31.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor =
  thermistor temp2:   +27.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high =
  +127.0°C)  sensor = thermal diode temp3:   +27.0°C  (low  =
  +127.0°C, high = +60.0°C)  sensor = thermal diode
 
 And here are the detected temps. I'm not familiar with AMD micros but
 temp1 can be for CPU, temp2 for the chipset and temp3 for the cabinet
 though they seem to be very low... Are these temps matching the BIOS
 values?
 
 Greetings,
 


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Re: a quick Q: what is the .alias for

On Sb, 25 feb 12, 00:55:48, lina wrote:
 
 Here I asked about the extension, why use .alias, In the book, it's 
 said related to X stuff.

Under Unix (and Linux) filename extensions are just another part of the 
name, mostly to give humans an indication of what it *might* contain. 

Both cases of .alias extensions mentioned here are just simple text 
files. The 'file' utility tries to guess the file type.

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Re: New computer planned

2012-02-27 Thread Andreas Weber

Funny enough nobody talked about energy consumption yet. If you would
buy a car or any other device, this would immediately be a point worth
considering, wouldn't it?

I suggest you buy a Mac Mini (-Server if you like to have 2 disks).

- works fine with Debian
- uses only a fraction of power compared to others
- is *very* small
- is *extremely* quiet
- has all necessary connectors
- you can connect any peripherals you like
- has all wireless stuff built-in
- has a card reader built-in
- has fine 3D power graphics (Tuxracer runs very fine)

Should I go on? And if you do so, you'll get flamed by _everyone_ for
the rest of your life for using a superior OS on superior hardware. ;-)

HTH, ändu


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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

2012-02-27 Thread Jason Heeris

On 27 February 2012 20:50, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aren't your users going to hate the random names?

They won't be end users, but production staff. (I can certainly see
how you'd be sceptical of doing this for some poor end user...) There
will be multiple devices being built in a workshop, and they'll need
to be plugged into the network for tests and the like. Test results or
session logs can be retrieved via Samba or SFTP after they've
completed. Doing it this way means that production staff can quickly
log in over a serial line, write down the hostname *once*, and then
find the device later on the network. They can move it around, not
worrying about needing to write down the IP address each time the box
moves. And having a common prefix makes it easier to hone in Windows
Explorer, on a network that has all sorts of stuff connected to it.

The clients themselves have other plans for the embedded computer, and
will most likely erase our stuff as soon as they receive it.

(Perhaps I should have gone into all of this before, but you know how
it is when you're working on the same thing for weeks... you think
it's everyone must know what the bigger picture is.)


 Will they know to use hostname.local for ssh/sftp?


They will if it's written in the commissioning procedure ;)

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Re: aptitude ndoessn't ask permission

On Du, 26 feb 12, 15:50:38, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 I just did an
aptitude safe-upgrade
 and aptitude just went ahead and did it, instead of showing the list of 
 packages it wanted to add/update/remove and asking permission.
 
 This appears to be new behaviour.  Is it a change of specs?  Or has some 
 configuration been damaged?

unreproducible
 
 I have to take special precautions every time a kernel is updated, 
 because grub always seems to match up my kernels and root partitions 
 wrong unless I hand-edit menu.lst.

This seems wrong, did you post about it on list?

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Re: notify osd stop working

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:55:50 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:13:14 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:

(...)
 
  Any idea please ??
 
 Nope, sorry :-(
 
 Check if a previous version works fine and if so, you can report a bug
 against the updated package.
 
 
 
 well, If I execute
 
 ` ` ` `
 /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd 
 
 ` ` ` `
 
 The notification is working  

But that's another package, right? I mean, notify-send is installed 
with libnotify-bin package and if it worked once it should still work 
unnless otherwise specified at the docs :-)

 Should we need a deamon or include it at .xinitrc ?

I can't tell. I would read the documentation to see how the binary has to 
be used/called now or what have been the changes :-?

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Re: rsync episode

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Shaun deb...@gmsl.co.uk wrote:
 On 27/02/2012 12:49, lina wrote:
 Hi,

 When I tried the rsync -rvz source destination

 It re-copied part of already-copied, any idea to prevent it.

 Thanks with best regards,



 rsync -avz

the ps au showed
  rsync -zav hpc:/home/lina/share/b1009a/* .
  ssh hpc rsync --server --sender -vlogDtprz . /home/lina/share/b1009a/*
  rsync -zav hpc:/home/lina/share/b1009a/* .


 Thanks,

 Still the same and pretty weird is that it's only partial and every
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Re: grub gets confused when I upgrade the kernel

On Du, 26 feb 12, 20:54:31, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 I have two different Debian systems on my EEEPC -- stable and testing.
 
 Whenever testing installs a new kernel as a result of the routing update, 
 my grub/menu.list file gets rewritten.  WHen it does this, it matches the 
 kernels I have in one Debian sysstem with the fie-system root I have in 
 the other.  I have to hand-edit menu.list to make things right again, 
 using static boot stanzas in front of the AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST.
 
 (a) Is there any way I can stop this misbehaviour? 
 
 (b) If I were to progress to grub2, where I gather I can't take control 
 of the boot process by editing menu.lst, is there some other way of 
 making sure things go right?  I fear that one of these years, upgrading 
 to grub2 will become inevitable.

Assuming the two installs are *not* sharing /boot[1] this should work 
with grub-pc + os-prober out of the box, *but* I recommend letting only 
one install deal with the MBR (stable would be the obvious choice, 
unless you need features from testing grub-pc).

[1] it's still not obvious from your replies to Bob

For maximum flexibility you can also let each system install its own 
grub in the partition and have one master grub in the MBR with a 
static grub.conf to select between the systems. I have such a setup 
(with a shared /home) and I could be convinced to detail it somewhere on 
the web.

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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0500, Tom H wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE) and
 issue xterm from there?
 
 No X, no xterm. :(

Ouch!

Cannot be run without the X part? :-?

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Re: NFS trouble

2012-02-27 Thread Raffaele Morelli

2012/2/27 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Raffaele Morelli
 raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am setting up (tryin at least) a nfs mount on a remote machine,
 there's a
  firewall in between so I asked the net administrator to open ports 111
 and
  2049 on the server.
 
  /etc/exports on the server is
  /home/username/ CLIENT_IP(ro,sync)
 
  mount command is
  mount -v -t nfs REMOTE_IP:/home/username/ /local/mount/point
 
  I got this error:
 
  mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Feb 27 11:28:00 2012
  mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=REMOTE_IP,
  clientaddr=CLIENT_IP'
  mount.nfs: mount(2): No such file or directory
  mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'addr=remote_ip_addr'
  mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6
  mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049
  mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17
  mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 34449
  mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Timed out
  mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6
  mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 58566
 
  showmount -e REMOTE_IP fails with
  rpc mount export: RPC: Timed out
 
  - server is running debian squeeze with nfs-kernel-server from wheezy
  - client is running debian wheezy
 
  any idea?

 (untested on wheezy but ok on squeeze)

 You have to use static ports for statd, mountd, and lockd if you're
 not using nfsv4. (You don't have to use the same static assignments
 used below.)

 - Set
 STATDOPTS=--port 4003 --outgoing-port 4004
 in /etc/default/nfs-common

 - Set
 RPCMOUNTDOPTS=-p 4002
 in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server

 - Set
 options lockd nlm_udpport=4001 nlm_tcpport=4001
 in /etc/modprobe.d/lockd.conf

 - Open the relevant ports with iptables


Ok, so I guess I should ask my net admin to open all relevant ports for
mountd, nlockmgr and status as showed in `rpcinfo -p` OR whatever port I
would like to use for STATDOPTS, RPCMOUNTDOPTS and lockd.
Is it right?

regards
-r

Re: Exim : change hostname in SMTP greeting

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:43:32 +, Shaun wrote:

On 26/02/2012 16:13, Camaleón wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:38:41 +, Shaun wrote: So you basically want
to change the SMTP greeting?

Yes, but I wanted to give the reason why also. Just in case it changes
the solution or recommendation.

Sure, just wanted to confirm your main goal :-)

MAIN_HARDCODE_PRIMARY_HOSTNAME='mail.mydomain.com' in
The above seems to indicate the used variable is not recognized, at
least in that config file... Mmm, I've found this:

Indeed. But strangely, despite this, it still works. The hostname in the
SMTP greeting _is_ changed. Bizarre.

Such varible exists, but it is placed in a different file (/var/lib/
exim4/config.autogenerated), or maybe is just I use a non-splitted
Exim configuration? I'm afraid I'll never understand Exim's inners :-)

1.2.3. How does exim find out its host name to use in HELO/EHLO?
http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#How_does_exim_find_out_its_host_name_to_use_in_HELO.2BAC8-EHLO.3F

So I'm not sure you really wanted to do this because editing the
primary hostname for a MUA will make deep changes on what hosts can
send/relay from/to destinations :-/

Yes, that variable manages the main hostname and at least in other mail
servers is a vital variable you won't like to play with on a production
system because it can break many things.

I don't know Exim too much (I'm a Postfix fellow) but it seems there is
a variable that takes cares of the welcome message (dc_smtp_banner)
although not sure if this will make your DNS tool checker happier :-)

Well, my e-mail server usually fails for some DNS checks because I'm not the
owner of the IP I have assigned, but my ISP, and the ISP does not have a PTR
setting that matches with my domain name but theirs.

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Re: temperature

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:15 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:40:16 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jiduag$69j$3...@dough.gmane.org:

(...)

 I don't know if lm-sensors can read the temps for nvidia cards when
 using the closed source driver. Are you using nuvó
 
 ..she meant nouveau, X.org's driver.

I call them nuvó kinda as a joke... In the end it's easier to write :-)

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Re: NAS no longer mounting at boot

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:55:10 +, Russell Gadd wrote:

 I have this in /etc/fstab
 //nasbox/dataNAS /mnt/dataNAS cifs 
 rw,user,exec,iocharset=utf8,user=xyz,password=xxx,uid=1000,gid=1000

Mmm, I would try with a simpler line for the share, just to check:

//ip_address/dataNAS /mnt/dataNAS cifs rw,user=xyz,pass=password 0 0

 Up to recently it used to mount at boot time but doesn't any more. I
 assume some update changed things. Unfortunately I only use this system
 once or twice a week and I noticed it a week or so ago, so I can't tell
 you exactly when this behaviour started. Can't see anything obvious in
 dmesg (but then I'm not particularly clued up on Debian).

Do you have something registered at /var/log/boot? Note that bootlogd 
has to be enabled first.

 If I use mount -a at a root terminal the NAS mounts ok, so it's not a
 show-stopper but is a bit annoying to do this manually at each boot.

That can indicate the problem is just at booting time and thus it could 
be related to the (lack of) network intialization.

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Re: hostname question during Debian installation

 I'm going to try it too.

 Ha! Beat you to it! :-)

:)

I'd forgotten about this hostname and postfix business until your
email arrived last Monday but I haven't had the time to do my (far
less thorough) test.



On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 Tom H wrote:
  Bob Proulx wrote:



 AFAIR, myhostname is /etc/hostname

 Not quite. For Debian's Postfix configuration the postfix myhostname
 variable is set to the fqdn in /etc/postfix/main.cf. Postfix requires
 myhostname to be the fqdn. The default value for Postfix is to use
 the value of `hostname`. However in Debian the default hostname is
 the short hostname without the domain name. Therefore Postfix's
 default of `hostname` isn't suitable and must be supplemented by
 setting the FQDN explicitly.

 Well... What I said wasn't quite true. It is the summary of the
 overall result. What Postfix actually does is somewhat circular.
 Here are the official docs and a somewhat longer explanation.

 mydomain (default: see postconf -d output)

   The internet domain name of this mail system. The default is to
   use $myhostname minus the first component, or localdomain
   (Postfix 2.3 and later). $mydomain is used as a default value for
   many other configuration parameters.

 myhostname (default: see postconf -d output)

   The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use
   the fully-qualified domain name (FQDN) from gethostname(), or to
   use the non-FQDN result from gethostname() and append
   .$mydomain. $myhostname is used as a default value for many
   other configuration parameters.

 If not set then it sets mydomain from the fqdn obtained from hostname
 or to localdomain if that isn't a fqdn.  On Debian with a short
 hostname set that means mydomain always defaults to localdomain.

 If not set then it sets myhostname from the non-fqdn obtained from
 hostname and appends mydomain. On Debian with a short hostname that
 means myhostname always defaults to somename.localdomain. And if the
 hostname was chosen to be localhost then it would default to
 localhost.localdomain which is one consistent and desirable strategy
 for thin client systems without a network and without a network domain
 name.

 [Postfix was born on systems where the hostname was normally set to
 the fqdn. In that environment the above makes a lot of sense. On
 Debian with the short hostname it means that myhostname should always
 be set to provide that supplemental domain name information.]

I set /etc/hostname to the fqdn so my memory was correct but my
setup non-standard. Apologies for the misinformation!



 and myorigin is /etc/mailname.

 Yes. If an MTA has been installed. That file does not exist if no
 MTA has been installed.

 What I find somewhat weird is that when you install Debian,
 /etc/hostname and /etc/mailname are the same.

 They are only the same if you choose a fqdn for the hostname. By your
 comment I read that it implies that you do choose a fqdn for your
 hostnames? (And that you always choose either Standard system or
 otherwise install an MTA?) That is why they would be the same for
 you. If you choose a short name for the hostname, which is the worded
 with recommendation from the debian-installer and so most people
 probably choose it, then they are different. /etc/hostname will be
 the short name and /etc/mailname will be the fqdn.

I usually use preseed with
d-i netcfg/get_hostname string box
d-i netcfg/get_domain string company.internal
but then overwrite /etc/hostname with the fqdn in late_command and
install various packages starting with
tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard
I'll have to try
d-i netcfg/get_hostname string box.company.internal



 What I find somewhat weird is that when you install Debian,
 /etc/hostname and /etc/mailname are the same.
 So if it's box.company.internal and bob runs mail tom, bob's
 address'll be bob@box.company.internal.

 Yes. Seems reasonable to me. That is exactly what I want. It is
 traditional BSD/Unix behavior.

But the address should be bob@company.internal!



 There was a debian-devel thread where there was an argument about
 whether /etc/mailname should be box.company.internal or
 company.internal.

 Oh! Well... If you want address masquarading then I think that
 should be an explicit choice. I wouldn't default to address
 masquarading by default. That would be wrong for many environments.
 It assumes that an environment has a central mail relay to handle mail
 for the entire domain and it routes all mail through that central mail
 relay. But in a simple environment with a few machines (or several
 thousand) that wants email to route directly from machine to machine
 then that is the wrong configuration. I have environments both ways.
 It is easy enough to set up address masquarading if desired.

 Either set the local domain in /etc/mailname for an MTA agnositc
 solution OR for postfix explicitly set:

 masquerade_domains = example.com
 masquerade_exceptions =

Why did UDEV renumber my ethernet interface again?

2012-02-27 Thread Curt Howland

Dear Debianistas,

I'm aware of _what_ UDEV is doing, that is, renumbering my ethernet
ports to prevent conflicts. Yeah. There's only one, but it's getting
renumbered eth3.

Trouble is, it wasn't renumbered yesterday. Just today. And a week ago.

About a week ago, UDEV decided to let eth0 remain eth0, which was
nice, but I had to change /etc/network/interfaces because it had
previously decided that eth0 should be eth3, and had been doing that
since I installed it two years ago.

Yes, I'm running Unstable, so it's the UDEV updates that are doing
this. That makes sense.

What doesn't make sense is _why_. There is only one ethernet interface
in this machine. Why is UDEV renumbering them _at_all_?

Curt-


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Re: NFS trouble

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Raffaele Morelli
raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/2/27 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Raffaele Morelli
 raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am setting up (tryin at least) a nfs mount on a remote machine,
  there's a
  firewall in between so I asked the net administrator to open ports 111
  and
  2049 on the server.
 
  /etc/exports on the server is
  /home/username/ CLIENT_IP(ro,sync)
 
  mount command is
  mount -v -t nfs REMOTE_IP:/home/username/ /local/mount/point
 
  I got this error:
 
  mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Feb 27 11:28:00 2012
  mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=REMOTE_IP,
  clientaddr=CLIENT_IP'
  mount.nfs: mount(2): No such file or directory
  mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'addr=remote_ip_addr'
  mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6
  mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049
  mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17
  mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 34449
  mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Timed out
  mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6
  mount.nfs: trying REMOTE_IP prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 58566
 
  showmount -e REMOTE_IP fails with
  rpc mount export: RPC: Timed out
 
  - server is running debian squeeze with nfs-kernel-server from wheezy
  - client is running debian wheezy
 
  any idea?

 (untested on wheezy but ok on squeeze)

 You have to use static ports for statd, mountd, and lockd if you're
 not using nfsv4. (You don't have to use the same static assignments
 used below.)

 - Set
 STATDOPTS=--port 4003 --outgoing-port 4004
 in /etc/default/nfs-common

 - Set
 RPCMOUNTDOPTS=-p 4002
 in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server

 - Set
 options lockd nlm_udpport=4001 nlm_tcpport=4001
 in /etc/modprobe.d/lockd.conf

 - Open the relevant ports with iptables

 Ok, so I guess I should ask my net admin to open all relevant ports for
 mountd, nlockmgr and status as showed in `rpcinfo -p` OR whatever port I
 would like to use for STATDOPTS, RPCMOUNTDOPTS and lockd.
 Is it right?

Yes, but you have to fix the port numbers by editing the files above
because they'll be variable otherwise.


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Re: New computer planned. Now: New computer delivered.

2012-02-27 Thread Sian Mountbatten

Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 20:00 -0500, Celejar wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:22:32 +0100
 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
 
  Am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2012 schrieb Celejar:
   Curt Howland howl...@priss.com wrote:
Well, I have the new computer and booting up is definitely faster.
As it happened, both HDDs in my old computer were IDE, so because the 
new motherboard only has SATA connectors, I only have the SSD.

One problem. The Wifi card is a RealTek TL-WN781ND which according to 
my web search for Linux drivers, is based on an Ath9K chip. Anyone 
know how to get Wifi working for this Wifi card? The mini-CD provided 
with the board has drivers for Windoze only. So my desktop, which is 
whisper quiet, is just sitting not being used because of the lack of a 
driver for the Wifi card.
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Re: Why did UDEV renumber my ethernet interface again?

2012-02-27 Thread Carlo Borelli

2012/2/27 Curt Howland howl...@priss.com

 Dear Debianistas,

 I'm aware of _what_ UDEV is doing, that is, renumbering my ethernet
 ports to prevent conflicts. Yeah. There's only one, but it's getting
 renumbered eth3.

 Trouble is, it wasn't renumbered yesterday. Just today. And a week ago.

 About a week ago, UDEV decided to let eth0 remain eth0, which was
 nice, but I had to change /etc/network/interfaces because it had
 previously decided that eth0 should be eth3, and had been doing that
 since I installed it two years ago.

 Yes, I'm running Unstable, so it's the UDEV updates that are doing
 this. That makes sense.

 What doesn't make sense is _why_. There is only one ethernet interface
 in this machine. Why is UDEV renumbering them _at_all_?


Sincerely dunno why, it appear a strange behaviour.
Do you tried to manually modify  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
and restart udev and networks services?

Re: Why did UDEV renumber my ethernet interface again?

2012-02-27 Thread Javier Barroso

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Curt Howland howl...@priss.com wrote:
 Dear Debianistas,

 I'm aware of _what_ UDEV is doing, that is, renumbering my ethernet
 ports to prevent conflicts. Yeah. There's only one, but it's getting
 renumbered eth3.

 Trouble is, it wasn't renumbered yesterday. Just today. And a week ago.

 About a week ago, UDEV decided to let eth0 remain eth0, which was
 nice, but I had to change /etc/network/interfaces because it had
 previously decided that eth0 should be eth3, and had been doing that
 since I installed it two years ago.

 Yes, I'm running Unstable, so it's the UDEV updates that are doing
 this. That makes sense.

 What doesn't make sense is _why_. There is only one ethernet interface
 in this machine. Why is UDEV renumbering them _at_all_?
mmm, what does /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rule file say ?


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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

2012-02-27 Thread Cybe R. Wizard

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:12:53 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0500, Tom H wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no
  KDE) and issue xterm from there?
  
  No X, no xterm. :(
 
 Ouch!
 
 Cannot be run without the X part? :-?
 
 Greetings,
 
--
cybe@wizardstower:~$ dict xterm
1 definition found

From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (26 July 2010) [foldoc]:

  xterm
  
 operating system A {terminal emulator} program for the {X
 Window System}.
--

Seriously, when not in an X windowing session one is already at the
terminal.  What Earthly use would an xterm be?

Cybe R. Wizard
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Unity through faith.
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Re: Why did UDEV renumber my ethernet interface again?

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:46:59 -0500, Curt Howland wrote:

 I'm aware of _what_ UDEV is doing, that is, renumbering my ethernet
 ports to prevent conflicts. Yeah. There's only one, but it's getting
 renumbered eth3.

Your ethernet card is having some sort of personality problem :-P

 Trouble is, it wasn't renumbered yesterday. Just today. And a week ago.

Oh, clearly udev wants to test your patience.
 
 About a week ago, UDEV decided to let eth0 remain eth0, which was nice,
 but I had to change /etc/network/interfaces because it had previously
 decided that eth0 should be eth3, and had been doing that since I
 installed it two years ago.

You know how to prevent this, right?
 
 Yes, I'm running Unstable, so it's the UDEV updates that are doing this.
 That makes sense.

Have been any updates for the kernel?
 
 What doesn't make sense is _why_. There is only one ethernet interface
 in this machine. Why is UDEV renumbering them _at_all_?

Does dmesg (dmesg|grep -i eth) tell you something about what's going on?

Greetings,

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3dm2 and iceweasel/firefox 10 - Connection reset

2012-02-27 Thread Henry Jensen

Hello,

I am running 3dm2 from http://hwraid.le-vert.net/ on several Debian boxes.

Since the upgrade to iceweasel 10, I can't connect to the 3dm2 web interface 
any more and get a The connection was reset error page instead. Other 
browsers are still working. 
It is only the combination Iceweasel 10 and 3dm2. 

On a windows box with Firefox 10 shows the same behavior - connection reset. A 
shot analysis with wireshark shows indeed that the 3dm2 builtin https server 
sends a RST. Firefox 3.6.x works.

Can anyone confirm that the 3dm2 web interface isn't working with 
iceweasel/firefox 10?

Regards,

Henry







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Re: New computer planned. Now: New computer delivered.

2012-02-27 Thread Kelly Clowers

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 06:43, Sian Mountbatten
poenik...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 One problem. The Wifi card is a RealTek TL-WN781ND

You mean TP-Link TL-WN781ND
RealTek is a wifi (and other) chip manufacture, not a card maker.
Atheros is the the chip make for this one.

 which according to
 my web search for Linux drivers, is based on an Ath9K chip. Anyone
 know how to get Wifi working for this Wifi card?

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k

Any kernel newer than 2.6.32 has Ath9k by default.
A newer kernel might have better/more specific support
for that card.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:12:23 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

 On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:12:53 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0500, Tom H wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE)
  and issue xterm from there?
  
  No X, no xterm. :(
 
 Ouch!
 
 Cannot be run without the X part? :-?
 --
 cybe@wizardstower:~$ dict xterm
(...) 
 Seriously, when not in an X windowing session one is already at the
 terminal.  What Earthly use would an xterm be?

Well, for this specific case, to check if there's an environment variable 
overriding xterm's default starting folder.

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Re: ext browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Keith McKenzie


On 27/02/12 12:58, Johann Spies wrote:

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:32:29PM +0200, Keith McKenzie wrote:

   

I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links',  'elinks'; I
didn't get on with any of them.

The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript  flash,
etc. They don't conform to www standards.
 

links2 handles javascript and can be used as in graphical mode also.

Regards
Johann
   

Thanks for that nugget of info; I may give that a go sometime.


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Re: Why did UDEV renumber my ethernet interface again?

2012-02-27 Thread David Goodenough

On Monday 27 Feb 2012, Curt Howland wrote:
 Dear Debianistas,
 
 I'm aware of _what_ UDEV is doing, that is, renumbering my ethernet
 ports to prevent conflicts. Yeah. There's only one, but it's getting
 renumbered eth3.
 
 Trouble is, it wasn't renumbered yesterday. Just today. And a week ago.
 
 About a week ago, UDEV decided to let eth0 remain eth0, which was
 nice, but I had to change /etc/network/interfaces because it had
 previously decided that eth0 should be eth3, and had been doing that
 since I installed it two years ago.
 
 Yes, I'm running Unstable, so it's the UDEV updates that are doing
 this. That makes sense.
 
 What doesn't make sense is _why_. There is only one ethernet interface
 in this machine. Why is UDEV renumbering them _at_all_?
 
 Curt-
I had the same thing, and I think it is because a bug in the script
that processes network udev events was fixed.  I forget the bug 
number, but there was a trailing \ missing from a line.

David


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Re: New computer planned

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Andreas Weber ae...@worldwideweber.ch wrote:

 Funny enough nobody talked about energy consumption yet. If you would
 buy a car or any other device, this would immediately be a point worth
 considering, wouldn't it?

 I suggest you buy a Mac Mini (-Server if you like to have 2 disks).

 - works fine with Debian
 - uses only a fraction of power compared to others
 - is *very* small
 - is *extremely* quiet
 - has all necessary connectors
 - you can connect any peripherals you like
 - has all wireless stuff built-in
 - has a card reader built-in
 - has fine 3D power graphics (Tuxracer runs very fine)

 Should I go on? And if you do so, you'll get flamed by _everyone_ for
 the rest of your life for using a superior OS on superior hardware. ;-)

Superior hardware?! The enclosure might be insanely great but the
innards are the same as any other x86 PC.

If I were buying a Mac Mini, I'd buy the lowest spec disk and upgrade
it myself because Apple makes you pay through the nose for disk/RAM
upgrades... (I'm assuming that you can buy a single-disk Mac Mini and
add a second disk!)


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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0500, Tom H wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE) and
 issue xterm from there?

 No X, no xterm. :(

 Ouch!

 Cannot be run without the X part? :-?

:)


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Re: CUPS on Sid printing blank sheets

2012-02-27 Thread Brian

On Sun 26 Feb 2012 at 18:20:25 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:

 I suspect that if this update hits Testing that many more users will
 be impacted.  I know that I will have to put CUPS on my laptop in Hold
 status just so I have a machine to print from should it migrate to
 Testing in its current state.

Quite possibly. But that's the nature of Testing, isn't it? Preventing
packages in a good state (like CUPS) from migrating there defeats its
purpose.

As to your problem: you could pursue Camaleón's suggestion and find the
last CUPS package which works for you. The changelog for the following
version might give you something to base debugging on. Not that I'd envy
your doing this; there have been quite a few important changes in CUPS
recently including, but not confined to, a new upstrem version.

Changing the ppd is another, simpler option. Your printer supports PCL 6
so under Generic there are quite a few to try. Using 'lp -d' is also an
alternative to printing through Iceweasel.


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Re: Why did UDEV renumber my ethernet interface again?

2012-02-27 Thread Brad Rogers

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:46:59 -0500
Curt Howland howl...@priss.com wrote:

Hello Curt,

 What doesn't make sense is _why_. There is only one ethernet interface
 in this machine. Why is UDEV renumbering them _at_all_?

I'm guessing, as I don't understand UDEV at all.  Could it be that the
update sees the existing rules, sees that they don't match the current
setup, assumes hardware has been changed, and assigns a new port number
to be safe.

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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:46:38 -0500, Tom H wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0500, Tom H wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried with falling into init 1 (no X server and so no KDE)
 and issue xterm from there?

 No X, no xterm. :(

 Ouch!

 Cannot be run without the X part? :-?
 
 :)

Mmm, no dice?

Okay, there has to be a way to run xterm with the X server running but no 
KDE env in place... Maybe from a remote ssh session.

Greetings,

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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 February 2012 20:50, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:

Aren't your users going to hate the random names?

They won't be end users, but production staff. (I can certainly see
how you'd be sceptical of doing this for some poor end user...) There
will be multiple devices being built in a workshop, and they'll need
to be plugged into the network for tests and the like. Test results or
session logs can be retrieved via Samba or SFTP after they've
completed. Doing it this way means that production staff can quickly
log in over a serial line, write down the hostname *once*, and then
find the device later on the network. They can move it around, not
worrying about needing to write down the IP address each time the box
moves. And having a common prefix makes it easier to hone in Windows
Explorer, on a network that has all sorts of stuff connected to it.

The clients themselves have other plans for the embedded computer, and
will most likely erase our stuff as soon as they receive it.

(Perhaps I should have gone into all of this before, but you know how
it is when you're working on the same thing for weeks... you think
it's everyone must know what the bigger picture is.)

Will they know to use hostname.local for ssh/sftp?

They will if it's written in the commissioning procedure ;)

Thanks for the explanation. It's a good plan but I think that you
name'll be invoked in some non-flattering contexts once this is
implemented... :)

I forgot about your earlier question about a one-time hostname change.

I think that this'll work:

cp /etc/rc.local /etc/rc.local.final and vi /etc/rc.local to add
your /dev/random hostname stuff followed by mv /etc/rc.local.final
/etc/rc.local.

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Re: CUPS on Sid printing blank sheets