bookmyname et dkim

[bernard . schoenacker]

bonjour,

j'ai essayé de faire entrer la syntaxe de dkim
 dans une entrée txt ...

malheureusement ce n'est pas pris en compte lorsque 
je fait un essai :


host -t TXT happy-tux.org 

donne l'entrée spf et pas dkim

pouvez vous m'indiquer si j'ai fait quelque erreur ?

merci de votre aimable attention

slt
bernard

Re: Victor lino

[remgasis remgasis]

Desde hace años deberían considerar seriamente usar MariaDB.​


Libre
de virus. www.avast.com

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Re: Victor lino

[Juan Lavieri]

  
  
Hola.


El 23-05-2017 a las 03:52 p.m., Guido
  Ignacio escribió:


  

  El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan
Lavieri 
escribió:

  

  

  


El
23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio
escribió:
  

  

  2017-05-23 14:34
  GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino :


  Quiciera dar ideas

  
  yo también, adquirí un diccionario
urgente!
  




Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!

Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.

Saludos


-- 
Juan M Lavieri

Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
  

  
  

No se
que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es
grato que te lo digan

  


En primer quisiera presentar mis excusas a Guido y a todo aque que
se haya sentido afectado de alguna manera.

Agradezco que se me haya permitido entender que existen expresiones
que usamos localmente, que bien pudieran hasta ofender a personas
nativas en otros lugares distintos a los nuestros.

No quisiera responder directamente acerca del significado de la
expresión que causó esta controversia, por lo que me tomo la
libertad de agregar algunos enlaces que tal vez lo aclaren;  aqui
están algunos:

http://www.tubabel.com/definicion/35141-te-la-comiste
http://www.blindworlds.com/publicacion/70069  (favor buscarla en la
letra "T")
http://untiposerio.com/el-lenguaje-del-vendedor-venezolano/    (aqui
es la número 8)
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/te-la-comiste.1089821/?hl=es 
(la penúltima entrada)

Saludos.

-- 
Juan M Lavieri

Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
  

Re: Victor lino

[Felix Perez]

El día 23 de mayo de 2017, 22:14, Hector Colina  escribió:
> ¿Y si más bien se le preguntan cuáles son sus ideas? quizás no todos
> tengamos ortografía excelente, eso se aprende.
>
> ¿Así construiremos una comunidad? ¿así la sostenemos?
>
> Victor, ¿cuáles son tus ideas?
>

A mi se me ocurren dos:
- No hacer top posting.
- No responder al privado


>
>
> El día 23 de mayo de 2017, 18:59, Aradenatorix Veckhôm Avecælus
>  escribió:
>> En mi país, sobre todo en el norte dirían "Te la bañaste", y no suena
>> tan malo como la versión venezolana, aquí tampoco sería grato eso.
>>
>
>
>




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como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
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Re: Victor lino

[Hector Colina]

¿Y si más bien se le preguntan cuáles son sus ideas? quizás no todos
tengamos ortografía excelente, eso se aprende.

¿Así construiremos una comunidad? ¿así la sostenemos?

Victor, ¿cuáles son tus ideas?

Saludos.


El día 23 de mayo de 2017, 18:59, Aradenatorix Veckhôm Avecælus
 escribió:
> En mi país, sobre todo en el norte dirían "Te la bañaste", y no suena
> tan malo como la versión venezolana, aquí tampoco sería grato eso.
>



-- 
**
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Debian user, aka e1th0r
Mérida-Venezuela http://colina.net.ve
Key fingerprint = E81B 8228 8919 EE27 85B7  A59B 357F 81F5 5CFC B481
LA REVOLUCIÓN NO SE HACE UNICAMENTE CON LAS ARMAS

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Felix Miata]

Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 08:24 (UTC-0500):

> I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
> interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
> playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes

Playback of what? With which player? All players? SMplayer? VLC? MPV? Kodi?

> unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
> recommendations here
> (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
> install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
> firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
> non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I

Show us what firmware is currently installed:

dpkg -l | grep mware

If firmware-linux-free is already installed, as it should be, unless there's
something in firmware-misc-nonfree and it is not installed, I don't think adding
any more firmware will help you. Realtek is only ever about network or sound.

> missing. I am happy my sytem is working, but graphics work better in> 
> Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me

Now that you've switched to Stretch we need to see /var/log/Xorg.0 again.
Send it to https://paste.debian.net/

It might be helpful to report your problem on the Intel video driver mailing 
list:
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[David Wright]

On Tue 23 May 2017 at 13:42:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:

> It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with
> sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie.

I hope you mean simple, and not that you're being simplistic!

Cheers,
David.

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[Mark Fletcher]

On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:18:06PM -, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Mark Fletcher wrote:
> >
> > My home network consists of 2 Debian machines, one Jessie and one 
> > Stretch, an LFS mini-ITX machine acting as my firewall, another LFS 
> > laptop that is connected only occasionally, a Windows 8.1 laptop, 3 
> > iPhones of varying ages, 2 iPads, 1 Android tablet device, a couple of 
> > other proprietary tablets and a Buffalo Linkstation that provides most 
> > of the connectivity.
> 
> Quick google doesn't show any "Linkstation" devices with more than one
> ethernet port (much less wifi).  Do you perhaps mean an "Airstation"?
> Could you provide the model number, so we can look it up?

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I"m now travelling for business, 
hence the delay in replying. I will check on my return at the end of the 
week and reply.


Mark
> 
> > [...]
> > I have my doubts about cross-LAN throughput. For example, as I write I 
> > am using WinSCP on the Windows 8.1 laptop to copy a movie file from my 
> > Jessie box to the laptop. (The movie concerned is not copyright before 
> > anyone asks). The Jessie box is connected to the LinkStation by wired 
> > ethernet, and the Windows 8.1 laptop by WiFi. I am getting a transfer 
> > rate consistently across the life of the connection of 880KB/s. I'd 
> > expect it to be a lot faster than that. I checked the WinSCP software is 
> > capable of limiting the connection speed, but is set not to.
> 
> 
> 880KB (we'll call it 1 MB) / kilobytes per second is about 8 megabits
> per second (1 byte = 8 bits).  8 mbit is a touch low (but in the
> "range") of what you can expect from 802.11g.  802.11n may also fall
> this low, but generally only when there's interference / poor signal.
> 
> A VERY rough rule of thumb is that on a perfectly clear channel, you can
> expect your throughput to be approximately 1/3 to 1/2 of the "on the
> box" speed (so 802.11g - 54mbit/sec yields roughly 18-24 mbit) for ONE
> device connected to the AP.
> 
> >From there, you have to divide up the available throughput by number of
> clients (i.e. a given wifi client's speed is 1/n, assuming that all
> clients are using the same technology).  So if your wifi was *perfect*
> for 802.11g, and one client got 24 mbit -- 2 clients would average 12
> mbit each, 3 would average 8, and so on.  
> 
> In addition to "your clients", you have to contend with neighbors on the
> same channels (who add to the 1/n throughput troubles).  5 GHz helps
> here, as it's less likely that the clients in your home will see the 5
> GHz signal from your neighbors, even if you are on the same channel.
> 
> > [...]
> >
> > I'd like to be able to diagnose what's going on here, why the transfer 
> > was so slow. Any recommendations for tools I should research? I am very 
> > willing to read man pages etc, but am a bit lost where to start. Google 
> > gave me a lot of Windows-based stuff which I could look into but I would 
> > prefer to use Linux-based tools if possible.
> >
> > Pointers to tools I should research -- and even better, links to good 
> > tutorials on those tools if you know any -- would be much appreciated.
> 
> iperf would be a solid start.  Run it from one machine to another (e.g.
> the wireless laptop to a wired desktop).  Don't try running it on the
> router / access point / switch (if you have any of those), as iperf can
> be resource intensive, so you "lose" a lot of speed due to their
> processor not being able to keep up with the packet generation.
> 
> Also check your wifi channel usage -- 2.4 GHz should be on channel 1, 6,
> or 11 (if you're somewhere where 13 is allowed, you could try that too).
> If you use any other channel (2-5 or 7-10), you're going to be getting a
> lot of interference (and throughput losses) from your neighbors.
> 
> 
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Re: error en instalacion de mysql en debian 8 jesie

[Paynalton]

en jessie está como mysql-server y mysql-client.

El lun., 22 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 03:29, lizard king 
escribió:

> Yo lo instalé con apt-get install MySQL ( minúsculas) y todo bien
>
> Obtener Outlook para Android 
>
> --
> *From:* Oscar Martinez 
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:52:32 PM
> *To:* Lista Debian
> *Subject:* error en instalacion de mysql en debian 8 jesie
>
> buenas, estoy tratando de instalar mysql-server en debian 8 jesie
>
> me dice que mysql no es un candidato para la instalacion la verdad no
> conozco bien linux estoy aprendiendo he cambiado repositorios
> instale
>
> mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide-en.html-chapter.tar
>
> y no he podido pasar de ese punto he observado que cuando hago el
>
> apt-get update y apt-get upgrade me dice fallo en los repo- mysql
>
> quien me puede ayudar o darme una guia para determinar cual es mi error o
> cual es el paso que estoy omiendo gracias
>

Re: Victor lino

[Aradenatorix Veckhôm Avecælus]

En mi país, sobre todo en el norte dirían "Te la bañaste", y no suena
tan malo como la versión venezolana, aquí tampoco sería grato eso.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 23:06:44 Felix Miata wrote:
> Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500):
> > Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100):
> >> What is your graphics card?
> >
> > Im not sure, this is the output from lspci
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22b1] (rev 21)
> > as I posted before.
>
> That's incomplete as before, so we have to look it up.
>
> You were asked:
>
>   inxi -c0 -G
> or
>   inxi -c0 -v1
> or
>   lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'
>
> Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
> important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months
> after Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.
>
> Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.

He says that it isn't, so there may be a driver missing??  It is hard to tell 
since he is so reluctant to provide information. :-(

Lisi

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[Dan Purgert]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 22, 2017 08:28:54 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> Probably WPA2-PSK ("Pre Shared Key") -- just means "password auth".
>> TBH, not having the SSID transmitted is actually LESS secure (overall)
>> than just having it transmit, due to the fact that your client devices
>> (phone, laptop, etc) have to broadcast "hey, I'm looking for SSID,
>> any APs in range have that one?"
>
> Interesting--I didn't know that, and I need to think about chaning my
> setup. 
> Thanks!

NP, kinda took me by surprise when I first heard it ... but when you sit
back and think about it, it makes sense that the client device has to
ask if the SSID is present.

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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Felix Miata]

Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500):

> Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100):

>> What is your graphics card?

> Im not sure, this is the output from lspci 
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:22b1] (rev 21)
> as I posted before.

That's incomplete as before, so we have to look it up.

You were asked:

inxi -c0 -G
or
inxi -c0 -v1
or
lspci -nnk | grep -A4 'VGA'

Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all
important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months after
Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie.

Gnome *should* be working fine since he installed Stretch.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: Spammers go personal

[Joel Rees]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:38 AM, Fungi4All  wrote:
> I think I got it like anyone else may have but I can't be sure of it.
> It shows me as the one forwarding it.  Did you get one?
> I can understand picking up addresses off the archive and using them to fake
> impersonate a list member, but it doesn't seem like it went through the
> list, it came direct.  This is why I'm quoting it.

Only you can tell, from the headers, and from your own setup, whether the
junk-fraudmailers just spoofed your address or actually used your computer
to send it.

I think most of us have automatic filters that shunted the original into their
junkmail boxes.

And, yes, the junkmailers are finding it harder to get responses from the
buckshot approach, so they are getting a bit more sophisticated with the
headers. Until we, as a race, learn to quit fighting poverty with more
opportunities to make people poor, this kind of problem will only get
worse.

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Spammers go personal
> Local Time: May 23, 2017 10:31 PM
> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 7:31 PM
> From: b...@fineby.me.uk
> To: Debian Users ML 
>
> On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:13:54 -0400
> Fungi4All  wrote:
>
> Hello Fungi4All,
>
>>If any of you received such a message I for sure did not send it, but
>>I'm pretty sure the theist spammer got it of the list.
>
> But you're happy to quote it.
>
> --
> Regards _
> / ) "The blindingly obvious is
> / _)rad never immediately apparent"
> It's cool to know nothin'
> Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs
>
>



-- 
Joel Rees

One of these days I'll get someone to pay me
to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C.
Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef,
run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define,
and stop all integer size bugs with a bare cast.

More of my delusions:
http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:30:15 +0900 Joel Rees 
wrote:

> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Bartek 
> wrote:
> >
> > A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread
> > about why there is no choice of inits during an initial install.
> >
> > Since that time, I've tested several systemd-less distros[1] as
> > well as Stretch as replacements for my aging Wheezy system.  With
> > Stretch my plan was to see if I could replace systemd as the init
> > without removing it just leaving its components (some or all as
> > necessary) to meet dependencies without it breaking the system
> 
> ???

Could you be a little more specific?  Or should I?

> > That way there would be no
> > need for third party repos or jumping through hoops to keep a
> > systemd-less working. I figured it would be a somewhat difficult,
> > time consuming process. However, I made a discovery during these
> > tests: The Debian developers had already done it for me.  They made
> > switching from systemd as the init to sysvinit or runit easy just
> > by issuing a couple commands. Here's what you do.
> 
> I thought that information came out several times in the thread you
> mention having started -- that it was possible to install the base
> system, then disable and remove the main systemd component, just
> leaving some of the pieces that have been picked up as dependencies
> by other packages.

That scenerio was mentioned and was known by me, but usually used to
prevent systemd from being installed all.  But since Debian is now
systemd dependent and doing that will cause problems.  You either have
to use third party repos or compile stuff yourself, have local repos,
etc just to get things to work.  I ended up with a simplier solution:
Just treat systemd like any other dependency, then no special repos,
compiling, etc.  And it worked!  And the Stretch developers made it
easy to do which wasn't available with Jessie. Thank you developers.

My original thread was on why there is no choice of init at install
time. You have choices on almost everything else. Anyway, most of the
answers were ambiguous, a few acrimonious.  No matter.

> Maybe the discussion of using more advanced techniques to keep from
> ever installing systemd in the first place hid the information about
> the removal approach.

Too many hoops to jump through to eliminate systemd if major
components (GNOME, udev, udisks2, policykit-1, etc) have it (or parts of
it) as dependencies.  Just look at all Devuan had to go through to do
it.

> If so, it would seem to be worthwhile to have this separate thread,
> as well.

I don't think it would do any good.  Debian has chosen systemd, for
better or worse, and I don't see that changing.  Users and
administrators will either adapt or adopt another distro.

I just hope my little "fix" is useful to someone else.  FWIW, I found
without systemd as the init and supervisor, I have about 7.5 MB more
free RAM.

B

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 19 May 2017 15:18:28 +0100 Jonathan Dowland 
wrote:

> 
> Thank you for sharing your experiences!

You're welcome.

It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with
sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie.  I
know.  I tried it.  jessie required manual configuration on numerous
files after the appropriate components where installed even if you had
no intentions of removing systemd.  And then, there were problems.
Some people reported systemd init would be "reinstalled" after a basic
update/upgrade, or installing an app with a systemd dependency.  With
Stretch, this doesn't seem to be the case even with a dist-upgrade.
Nice.

B

Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!

[Joe]

On Tue, 23 May 2017 13:43:20 -0500
Dennis Wicks  wrote:

> How do I get the setup procedure to run?
> 
> I use a url of 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/setup like I found in
> the docs but it keeps asking for a user and password. I have
> tried many combos that I have found: root, admin, pma,
> phpmyadmin. I tried using localhost in the url but it gets
> changed to www.localhost.com! I tried setting the
> config.sample.inc.php AllowNoPassword to TRUE but that
> didn't help. I have run out of places to look and ideas.
> 
> Does anybody know how to get this thing started?
> 
> If I have to setup mysql first, that is just as great a
> mystery! I was hoping that phpmyadmin would take care of
> that for me too!
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
> 


Yes, you've done it backwards, but it's no big deal in Debian.
phpmyadmin needs the root password of mysql in order to install, and if
you haven't installed mysql, it obviously doesn't have one. phpmyadmin
itself needs to set up data in mysql.

So remove phpmyadmin, then install mysql. The mysql installation will
ask you to create a root password. Note that the mysql root user and his
password are completely separate from the Linux root user and password.
Don't lose this password, as mysql takes security seriously and will
not allow you to recreate a root password unless you already have it. If
you forget it, you need to reinstall, and all data that you can't
manage to backup without the root password will be lost. A wise
precaution is to backup all the data regularly, even if the computer
itself is being backed up regularly.

Having installed mysql, it will have created some data tables of its
own for housekeeping. Now install phpmyadmin (it's really just a few
scripts, you're not actually installing anything, just hooking it into
the apache configuration). It will want the mysql root password in
order to make some data of its own.

As far as I recall, that's it. It is possible that there will be php
or even apache issues, as both are much more tightly controlled than
when I last set this up. It may be necessary to enable something here
or there, but I suspect Debian will sort that out.

You'll need at least a vague idea of how mysql works, as it's not
really intuitive if you haven't used something like it before. There
are reams of information and tutorials on the Net, in addition to
the official mysql site. Note particularly that mysql users (again,
completely separate from Linux users) are specified by both user name
and client computer hostname. From a recent post of mine:

"Note also what someone else here was confused about recently, that
mysql knows users by both name and client computer hostname, so
richard@comp1 is a different user to richard@comp2, and different again
to richard@localhost and richard@%. The '%' is the SQL wildcard. As
different users, they can have different privileges and passwords e.g
richard@comp1 can use database fred but not database bill, and
richard@localhost can use bill but not fred. Wordpress will almost
certainly name its user(s) 'xxx@localhost', and that account will not
work from anywhere else. I mention this in detail because it took me a
while to get the hang of it.

List the users/hosts with USE mysql; SELECT * FROM user;

Don't mess with user privileges until you understand them, a large
variety of privileges can exist globally, per database, per table and
per column. A user set up by an application will (hopefully) have
exactly the correct set of privileges."

You are right for the most part, with phpmyadmin you shouldn't need to
use the mysql command line, but it is worth knowing that it is there,
and what you can do from it (i.e. everything) and if you ever have
trouble with your web server, the command line will still be there. You
may also one day want to involve some or all of your mysql databases in
your backup scripts, and again, the command line is what you will need
then.

Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!

[Richard Owlett]

On 05/23/2017 01:43 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote:

How do I get the setup procedure to run?

I use a url of 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/setup like I found in
the docs but it keeps asking for a user and password. I have
tried many combos that I have found: root, admin, pma,
phpmyadmin. I tried using localhost in the url but it gets
changed to www.localhost.com! I tried setting the
config.sample.inc.php AllowNoPassword to TRUE but that
didn't help. I have run out of places to look and ideas.

Does anybody know how to get this thing started?

If I have to setup mysql first, that is just as great a
mystery! I was hoping that phpmyadmin would take care of
that for me too!

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!

TIA!
Dennis




Sounds like symptoms I've reported:
• Initial thread
  "Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints"
  
• Major sub-thread
  "A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [..."
  

The symptoms I've seen revolve around Debian's move from MySQL to 
Mariadb. If you are using Stretch, I don't know the solution yet.


If Jessie the key is to stick with MySQL without taking any options for 
Mariadb.

Re: Victor lino

[Guido Ignacio]

El 23 de mayo de 2017, 16:05, Juan Lavieri  escribió:

>
>
> El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m., Guido Ignacio escribió:
>
> 2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino :
>
>> Quiciera dar ideas
>>
> yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!
>
>
> Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!
>
> Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.
>
> Saludos
>
> --
> Juan M Lavieri
>
> Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
>
>
No se que será allá "te la comiste" pero acá en Argentina no es grato que
te lo digan

Re: Spammers go personal

[Fungi4All]

I think I got it like anyone else may have but I can't be sure of it.
It shows me as the one forwarding it. Did you get one?
I can understand picking up addresses off the archive and using them to fake 
impersonate a list member, but it doesn't seem like it went through the list, 
it came direct. This is why I'm quoting it.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Spammers go personal
Local Time: May 23, 2017 10:31 PM
UTC Time: May 23, 2017 7:31 PM
From: b...@fineby.me.uk
To: Debian Users ML 

On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:13:54 -0400
Fungi4All  wrote:

Hello Fungi4All,

>If any of you received such a message I for sure did not send it, but
>I'm pretty sure the theist spammer got it of the list.

But you're happy to quote it.

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
It's cool to know nothin'
Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs

Re: puppy Linux reports problems with USB/network drive

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: puppy Linux reports problems with USB/network drive
UTC Time: May 21, 2017 11:33 AM
From: pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org

Le 21/05/2017 à 04:56, Albert Hodge a écrit :
>
> When I plugged it into the USB port it gave a warning message, that the
> NTFS -3g driver was able to mount the NTFS partition but says, Dirty
> volume mount was forced by the "force" mount option. It is mounted
> read/write, but advice is only write to it in emergency situation.
> recommendation is boot windows and fix the filesystem first!
>
> It's going to be a while before I can get a system built to run winxp,
> is there a Linux option I can run on this old computer to fix the drive?

You can try ntfsck or ntfsfix from ntfs-3g (formerly ntfsprogs).
Use with caution.

testdisk may be able to at least tell you what if anything may be wrong with it.

Also I am told that team-os https://www.teamos-hkrg.com/index.php iso of win 
installations are pretty reliable and download quick. Just plug in and install, 
no keys nothing ... Make sure you get their latest security fixed edition.

Re: Spammers go personal

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:13:54 -0400
Fungi4All  wrote:

Hello Fungi4All,

>If any of you received such a message I for sure did not send it, but
>I'm pretty sure the theist spammer got it of the list.

But you're happy to quote it.

-- 
 Regards  _
 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
It's cool to know nothin'
Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs


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Re: Qs re: ActiveDirectory authentication & perms

[Kent West]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, George42  wrote:

> Kent West wrote:
>
> > I'm not quite sure what questions to ask...
> >
> > I have a Debian box used by 10 or 12 people on a university campus;
>
> ... snip...
>
> > After considerable hair-pulling, I've managed to get the box to
> > authenticate using their AD credentials,
>
> ... snip ...
>
> > Since it's just a dozen users or so, I can easily "id" their AD UID
> > and "chown -R" their files in their home directory (which have been
> > copied over manually from the old Debian box) to their AD UID.
> >
> > But that leaves several questions:
> >
> > 1) If I just "chown -R", that changes the ownership of all the files,
> > regardless how the files may have been set-up on the old box. For
> > example, I notice in at least one web directory for one user, the
> > files were owned by www-data, with the group ownership set to the
> > group name corresponding to the user's name on the old box. Changing that
> > ownership from "www-data" to "joe_user" might break things. Is there a
> way
> > to just chown the ownership of files already owned by the old username?
>
> You should be able to use a combination of find and xargs to chown only
> files
> owned by a certain user. This command should be approximately what you
> want:
>
> find /home/username -user local_user -print0 | xargs -0 chown ad_user
>


I found this same (essentially) answer about an hour ago, in this form:

find /home -user local_user -exec chown ad_user {} \;

This seems to have worked. I'm not sure if your method might or might not
be better, but I appreciate you giving a good answer.



> > 2) The group that all the AD-authenticated users are in is "domain
> users".
> > That means that any files formerly owned by suzy:suzy are now owned by
> > suzy:"domain users", and if a file is set to 770 (or similar), any one
> > of the people logging in can access any other person's files as a
> > member of that group. Not good.
>
> In that case, you will have to either change the file permissions to 700
> or change the group on the files.
>
> > 2a) What's the best route for dealing with this group ownership issue?
> > Can I remap the group for all AD-authenticated users to be their own
> > username, like it was in the old Debian setup? Is that even a good idea?
>
> If the files should be accessible only by the user who owns them, then you
> could set the permissions to 700. No need to create groups. That is what I
> would do. The main thing will be to set up a create mask for new files.
> Changing owner on the existing files shouldn't set the group to "domain
> users"
> unless you tell it to.
>
> In order to have groups that match the usernames, you would have to create
> them manually. AD setups that I am familiar with do not have a group for
> each user like a local Linux system typically does. I would recommend
> against this. It will be extra work, extra clutter and not as clear from
> an admin point of view since it is not normally done.
>

Again, I found out about an hour ago that AD doesn't have a group for each
user:

from
https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/groupmapping.html

"Windows does not permit user and group accounts to have the same name.
This has serious implications for all sites that use private group
accounts. A private group account is an administrative practice whereby
users are each given their own group account. Red Hat Linux, as well as
several free distributions of Linux, by default create private groups."

I at first tried to manually create a group for each user (using only a
couple as tests), but found that doesn't work because the group name in
/etc/groups is not recognized when using the AD setup.

So I decided I'd have to chown the ownership of all the files to 700 (just
as you've now suggested, which validates that I'm thinking along the right
direction) and figure out how to set the perms by default on new files
created. Your mentioning of a "mask for new files" sounds just like what I
need to look up next (from vague memory from long ago, it seems it's an
easy fix - ah, 30 seconds of googling just now points me to "umask"; I'll
study another few minutes in a few minutes, and have it working in a few
minutes, I bet).

Not having group membership the same as the owner membership will be a new
way of thinking for me, but I bet I can wrap my brain around it.



> > 2b) I'm skittish of having spaces in group names (or files, etc), and
> > would rather that "domain users" be something like "domain_users";
> > does the AD authentication process have some way of remapping that
> > name to one without spaces? (Or this may be a moot question, depending
> > on the answer to 2a above.)
>
> You would have to look at the documentation for the AD authentication
> process that you are using. I have never seen such a thing. I have been
> using
> sssd to authenticate against AD for a little while now and the only issue I
> have run into 

Spammers go personal

[Fungi4All]

If any of you received such a message I for sure did not send it, but I'm 
pretty sure the theist spammer got it of the list.

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Re: Victor lino

[Juan Lavieri]

  
  

  


El 23-05-2017 a las 02:13 p.m.,
Guido Ignacio escribió:
  

  

  2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor
  Lino :


  Quiciera dar ideas

  
  yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!
  


Como decimos acá en Venezuela, Guido ¡Te la comiste!

Mira que me hiciste reir un buen rato.

Saludos


-- 
Juan M Lavieri

Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
  

phpmyadmin ... need help!

[Dennis Wicks]

How do I get the setup procedure to run?

I use a url of 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/setup like I found in
the docs but it keeps asking for a user and password. I have
tried many combos that I have found: root, admin, pma,
phpmyadmin. I tried using localhost in the url but it gets
changed to www.localhost.com! I tried setting the
config.sample.inc.php AllowNoPassword to TRUE but that
didn't help. I have run out of places to look and ideas.

Does anybody know how to get this thing started?

If I have to setup mysql first, that is just as great a
mystery! I was hoping that phpmyadmin would take care of
that for me too!

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!

TIA!
Dennis

Re: Victor lino

[Guido Ignacio]

2017-05-23 14:34 GMT-03:00 Víctor Lino :

> Quiciera dar ideas
>
yo también, adquirí un diccionario urgente!

Re: Qs re: ActiveDirectory authentication & perms

[George42]

Kent West wrote:

> I'm not quite sure what questions to ask...
>
> I have a Debian box used by 10 or 12 people on a university campus;

... snip...

> After considerable hair-pulling, I've managed to get the box to
> authenticate using their AD credentials,

... snip ...

> Since it's just a dozen users or so, I can easily "id" their AD UID
> and "chown -R" their files in their home directory (which have been
> copied over manually from the old Debian box) to their AD UID.
>
> But that leaves several questions:
>
> 1) If I just "chown -R", that changes the ownership of all the files,
> regardless how the files may have been set-up on the old box. For
> example, I notice in at least one web directory for one user, the
> files were owned by www-data, with the group ownership set to the
> group name corresponding to the user's name on the old box. Changing that
> ownership from "www-data" to "joe_user" might break things. Is there a way
> to just chown the ownership of files already owned by the old username?

You should be able to use a combination of find and xargs to chown only files
owned by a certain user. This command should be approximately what you want:

find /home/username -user local_user -print0 | xargs -0 chown ad_user

> 2) The group that all the AD-authenticated users are in is "domain users".
> That means that any files formerly owned by suzy:suzy are now owned by
> suzy:"domain users", and if a file is set to 770 (or similar), any one
> of the people logging in can access any other person's files as a
> member of that group. Not good.

In that case, you will have to either change the file permissions to 700
or change the group on the files.

> 2a) What's the best route for dealing with this group ownership issue?
> Can I remap the group for all AD-authenticated users to be their own
> username, like it was in the old Debian setup? Is that even a good idea?

If the files should be accessible only by the user who owns them, then you
could set the permissions to 700. No need to create groups. That is what I
would do. The main thing will be to set up a create mask for new files.
Changing owner on the existing files shouldn't set the group to "domain users"
unless you tell it to.

In order to have groups that match the usernames, you would have to create
them manually. AD setups that I am familiar with do not have a group for
each user like a local Linux system typically does. I would recommend
against this. It will be extra work, extra clutter and not as clear from
an admin point of view since it is not normally done.

> 2b) I'm skittish of having spaces in group names (or files, etc), and
> would rather that "domain users" be something like "domain_users";
> does the AD authentication process have some way of remapping that
> name to one without spaces? (Or this may be a moot question, depending
> on the answer to 2a above.)

You would have to look at the documentation for the AD authentication
process that you are using. I have never seen such a thing. I have been using
sssd to authenticate against AD for a little while now and the only issue I
have run into with the spaces was trying to limit ssh access based on a group
that had a space. For the most part, don't worry about the spaces. If something
doesn't work with a group that has a space, check the documentation for the
particular command. Usually you either enclose it in quotes or use a \ to
escape the space.

> 3) Can I limit logins/file-sharing to just a subset of campus users
> (one department, not just anyone having a campus account)?

It seems based on your next message you figured out a way.

> 4) I haven't even begun to think about how to tie this into their
> samba (or is it "cifs" nowadays?) file shares. Any pointers dealing
> with that would be appreciated.

It all depends on how you set up samba. If you want to know how things
affect your samba configuration, then you need to learn how to configure
samba so that you understand the configuration you are using.

Hope that helps some.

- george

Victor lino

[Víctor Lino]

Quiciera dar ideas

Re: problemas de red

[Fredy Guio]

hola oscar.

me imagino que el servidor debian DHCP debe ser el defaul gateway para tu red.
Partiendo desde hay podrias hacer algunas verificaciones.

- verificar en el momento de la caida cual es el default gateway de
los clientes para saber si hay algun otro dispositivo cambiandote ese
parametro

-  verificar si hay un router entre tus equipos clientes y tu servidor
que este sirviendo como servidor DHCP.

- si tus equipos de red tienen la opcion de restringir las peticiones
DHCP (DHCP snooping) habilitarlo y permitir solo al servidor este
trafico,y lo que los administradores de red menos les gusta: verificar
la configuracion equipo por equipo si hay alguno sirviendo de server
DHCP ( 150 clientes trabajito largo )

no creo que sea un equipo que tenga configurada su ip estatica ya que
esto solo generaria un conflicto de Ip con otro equipo almenos que sea
la ip del dispositivo gateway

Despues de solucionar el problema seria bueno que tu sysadmin haga
cambios en las configuraciones de los clientes para que no vuelva a
suceder, por ejemplo:

- en los equipos MSW darle las politicas de seguridad con AD para que
no modifique ni agregen tarjetas de red y a los linux no darle acceso
como root a ningun usuario, bien gestionar el sudo para evitar que los
clientes puedan modificar los parametros de su tarjeta de red, ni
subir servicios como DHCP en pocas palabra hacer un buen trabajo.

como hacer todo esto estoy seguro que lo encontraras googleando



El día 23 de mayo de 2017, 10:04, Guido Ignacio
 escribió:
> El 22 de mayo de 2017, 20:14, Oscar Martinez 
> escribió:
>>
>> buenas tardes.
>> la verdad con este grupo he visto la luz, a tantos problemas que se me
>> estan presentando donde trabajo tenemos un servidor en debian 6 el cual
>> supuestamente solo estaa para reparte ip a 150 equipos con linux min 17 y 20
>> maquinas con windows xp y 7, el administrador de red me indica que las
>> maquinas tienen configurada una ip fija, y no tiene un proxy configurado el
>> firewall esta desactivado, y sufrimos de caidas del servicio de internet
>> sucesivamente.
>>
>> y el administrador de la red, nos explica que es un equipo, en especial
>> que nos tumba la red
>>
>> antes estabamos totalmente en windows y desde que migramos a linux se nos
>> esta presentando el problema quien me puede dar luces para resolver y
>> determinar cual es el problema gracias lista
>
>
> El servidor debian solo sirve de servidor dhcp? Por donde tiene salida a
> internet los clientes conectados?

Re: Debian + vidéosurveillance

[BM]

Le 22/05/2017 à 00:51, kaliderus a écrit :

Le bonjour,

Connaissez-vous des solutions de vidéosurveillance qui tournent avec
notre Debian préférée ?
Si vous avez quelques références "professionnelles" j'apprécierai...


Merci




Bonsoir,

j'utilise motioneye qui s'appuie sur motion:

https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki

bm

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Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Im not sure, this is the output from lspci 
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
[8086:22b1] (rev 21)
as I posted before.

On Tue, May 23, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
> > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
> > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes
> > unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
> > recommendations here
> > (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
> > install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
> > firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
> > non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I
> > missing. I am happy my system is working, but graphics work better in
> > Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me.
> > thanks a lot,
> 
> What is your graphics card?
> 
> Lisi
> >
> > On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > > On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > > > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and
> > > > full response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > > > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > > > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> > > > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible
> > > > graphics and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from
> > > > backports (4.9), these problems were resolved. I have tried installing
> > > > Linux-image 4.9 from backports (using the command line) now again, the
> > > > problem persists. However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who
> > > > said he has the exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running
> > > > Gnome-Classic (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem
> > > > but have received no response from him.
> > > > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > > > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > > > Outputs:
> > > > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > > > lspci  :
> > > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > > > (rev 35)
> > > >
> > > > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> > > >
> > > > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> > > >
> > > > thanks a lot,
> > >
> > > If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg
> > > and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
> > > --
> > > Jimmy Johnson
> > >
> > > Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
> > > Registered Linux User #380263
> 

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote:
> Hello,
> I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
> interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
> playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes
> unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
> recommendations here
> (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
> install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
> firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
> non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I
> missing. I am happy my system is working, but graphics work better in
> Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me.
> thanks a lot,

What is your graphics card?

Lisi
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and
> > > full response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> > > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible
> > > graphics and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from
> > > backports (4.9), these problems were resolved. I have tried installing
> > > Linux-image 4.9 from backports (using the command line) now again, the
> > > problem persists. However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who
> > > said he has the exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running
> > > Gnome-Classic (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem
> > > but have received no response from him.
> > > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > > Outputs:
> > > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > > lspci  :
> > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> > > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > > (rev 35)
> > >
> > > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> > >
> > > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> > >
> > > thanks a lot,
> >
> > If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg
> > and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
> > --
> > Jimmy Johnson
> >
> > Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
> > Registered Linux User #380263

Re: problemas de red

[JavierDebian]

El 23/05/17 a las 12:00, Andrés R. escribió:

El 23/05/17 a las 01:14, Oscar Martinez escribió:

buenas tardes.
la verdad con este grupo he visto la luz, a tantos problemas que se me
estan presentando donde trabajo tenemos un servidor en debian 6 el
cual supuestamente solo estaa para reparte ip a 150 equipos con linux
min 17 y 20 maquinas con windows xp y 7, el administrador de red me
indica que las maquinas tienen configurada una ip fija, y no tiene un
proxy


Revisa que ninguno de los 150 equipos con IP estática tenga asignada la
IP del DHCP/GATEWAY/ROUTER


configurado el firewall esta desactivado, y sufrimos de caidas del
servicio de internet sucesivamente.


Si tienes caídas de Internet, habla con tu ISP para que te revisen
router o instalación de su cableado externo a tu LAN.



y el administrador de la red, nos explica que es un equipo, en
especial que nos tumba la red



Si es un equipo concreto, desconectad ese equipo


antes estabamos totalmente en windows y desde que migramos a linux se
nos esta presentando el problema quien me puede dar luces para
resolver y determinar cual es el problema gracias lista




Prueba todo lo que Andrés te indicó.
¿La máquinas Linux están corriendo Samba?
Es una "tara" de quienes migran de Windows.
Si es así, también puede ser que algún equipo esté configurado como 
"domain master" y te esté metiendo ruido.



JAP

PD: Si estás en Argentina, y tu ISP es Telefónica, puede haber "otros" 
problemas.





https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html

domain master (G)

Tell smbd(8) to enable WAN-wide browse list collation. Setting this 
option causes nmbd to claim a special domain specific NetBIOS name that 
identifies it as a domain master browser for its given workgroup. Local 
master browsers in the same workgroup on broadcast-isolated subnets will 
give this nmbd their local browse lists, and then ask smbd(8) for a 
complete copy of the browse list for the whole wide area network. 
Browser clients will then contact their local master browser, and will 
receive the domain-wide browse list, instead of just the list for their 
broadcast-isolated subnet.


Note that Windows NT Primary Domain Controllers expect to be able to 
claim this workgroup specific special NetBIOS name that identifies them 
as domain master browsers for that workgroup by default (i.e. there is 
no way to prevent a Windows NT PDC from attempting to do this). This 
means that if this parameter is set and nmbd claims the special name for 
a workgroup before a Windows NT PDC is able to do so then cross subnet 
browsing will behave strangely and may fail.


If domain logons = yes, then the default behavior is to enable the 
domain master parameter. If domain logons is not enabled (the default 
setting), then neither will domain master be enabled by default.


When domain logons = Yes the default setting for this parameter is Yes, 
with the result that Samba will be a PDC. If domain master = No, Samba 
will function as a BDC. In general, this parameter should be set to 'No' 
only on a BDC.

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

[rhkramer]

On Monday, May 22, 2017 08:28:54 AM Dan Purgert wrote:

> Probably WPA2-PSK ("Pre Shared Key") -- just means "password auth".
> TBH, not having the SSID transmitted is actually LESS secure (overall)
> than just having it transmit, due to the fact that your client devices
> (phone, laptop, etc) have to broadcast "hey, I'm looking for SSID,
> any APs in range have that one?"

Interesting--I didn't know that, and I need to think about chaning my setup.  
Thanks!

Re: problemas de red

[Andrés R .]

El 23/05/17 a las 01:14, Oscar Martinez escribió:

buenas tardes.
la verdad con este grupo he visto la luz, a tantos problemas que se me 
estan presentando donde trabajo tenemos un servidor en debian 6 el cual 
supuestamente solo estaa para reparte ip a 150 equipos con linux min 17 
y 20 maquinas con windows xp y 7, el administrador de red me indica que 
las maquinas tienen configurada una ip fija, y no tiene un proxy 


Revisa que ninguno de los 150 equipos con IP estática tenga asignada la 
IP del DHCP/GATEWAY/ROUTER


configurado el firewall esta desactivado, y sufrimos de caidas del 
servicio de internet sucesivamente.


Si tienes caídas de Internet, habla con tu ISP para que te revisen 
router o instalación de su cableado externo a tu LAN.




y el administrador de la red, nos explica que es un equipo, en especial 
que nos tumba la red




Si es un equipo concreto, desconectad ese equipo

antes estabamos totalmente en windows y desde que migramos a linux se 
nos esta presentando el problema quien me puede dar luces para resolver 
y determinar cual es el problema gracias lista

Re: Apt Question

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/23/2017 08:47 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:23:46AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: Apt Question
>> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 11:54 AM
>> From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org
> 
>>> If he
>>> is already running a sid linux kernel and some other core packages by
>>> switching to jessie he will be stuck with those packages almost 
>>> indefinitely,
> 
>> He's not running jessie, nor could he "switch to jessie" if he wanted
>> to. Once you've installed a single binary package from post-jessie,
>> there is no going back.
> 
> That will depend... on the dependencies :)
> 
> Of course, if some package from the N+1 distro pulls in something
> really fat, like, say libc, which upgrades half of your box (yes,
> that's doable: my box looks a bit like that at the moment), then
> your way back will be a bit... painful. 
Absolutely !! :) That's why I always check the proposed changes before
upgrading to a post-Stretch package to make sure that nothing that
drastic is going to be done.  There is a limit to how close to the edge
I will go!!  In fact, should the changes look too heavy, I also explore
going upstream and getting the source package for the newer version and
compiling it on the existing systemsometimes that will work,
sometimes it really needs the newer libraries that I suspect might break
the system.  In which case, I usually decide that bleeding edge probably
would cause too much blood loss!!
But if the package has no
> or very little dependencies, you just have to remember that apt
> (and most probably aptitude) have a natural aversion against
> downgrading packages and that you have to let them know that yes,
> you actually want to do such a seemingly foolish thing.
> 
> As Paracelsus put it once, "Sola dosis facit venenum" (i.e. "It's
> the dosis, stupid" ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> -- tomás
> 

-- 
73's,
WB5VQX -- The Very Quick X-ray



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Re: Apt Question

[Michael Milliman]

On 05/23/2017 03:57 AM, Fungi4All wrote:
> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: Apt Question
>> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 11:02 PM
>> From: songb...@anthive.com
>>
>> Michael Milliman wrote:
>> > I have, for various reasons, the repositories from stable (Jessie),
>> > stretch, and sid in my sources.list file. I have Stretch installed and
>> > have it running for some time. On occasion, there is a bug in Stretch
>> > and I revert to the stable version of the package until the bug gets
>> > worked out. I also, on occasion, use a more advanced version of the
>> > package and get it from sid (with a careful look at the proposed changes
>> > to the system when doing so). I have set synaptic to prefer the Stretch
>> > distribution. However, when I reload, and tell synaptic to mark all
>> > upgrades, it marks upgrades which it will pull from sid. Is there a way
>> > to tell synaptic to ignore those upgrades, while allowing me to manually
>> > install them should I wish to do so? I had thought that telling
>> > synaptic to prefer the Stretch distribution would have handled that, but
>> > I guess not. I figure I'm just missing something.
>>
>> you can always uncheck the apt lines for stretch,
>> and sid in the Settings -> Repositories and then do
>> an update to reload. then that will show you only
>> the versions available in Jessie. then any versions
>> you have upgraded beyond Jessie will show up as
>> Installed (local or obsolete) in the Status selection.
> 
> I don't know, I am not being sarcastic, is this really good practice?
>  If he is already running a sid linux kernel and some other core
Actually, I'm running Stretch, with occasional packages reverted to
jessie distribution, and other occasional packages advanced to sid
distribution.
> packages by switching to jessie he will be stuck with those packages
> almost indefinitely, if the system doesn't eventually break due to
> inconsistencies.  Meanwhile any security and important updates in jessie
> will not apply to all those testing and unstable till their version gets
> superseded, and if ever.  Let's say he has linux 4.9.. on and jessie
> does an upgrade to 3.20, and packages in jessie are checked to all work
> with 3.20.  Who says that their update will work with an outdated 4.9?
I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that packages that run on previous
kernels (3.16 say) will continue to work under new kernels (4.9). I have
not been bitten by this as of yet, though it is always a possibility.
As far as packages advanced to Sid distribution, I make no assumptions,
I try out the package, if it works, great, if not, I can always revert
it to Stretch or Jessie.  I always inspect the changes made to the
system when installing from Sid to make sure that the changes are not
likely to break the whole system.  Again, I have not been bitten by this
as of yet, though it is probable that I will be at some time :)


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RE: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

[Robert Hardy (r.hardy)]

Thanks for the suggestions. However, this isn't an issue with the URL in 
sources.list. I've tried the following:

* installing using httpredir.debian.org (deb.debian.org isn't in the list of 
mirrors in the installer) - same error results.
* modifying the URL to deb.debian.org in sources.list and running apt-get 
update, same error results (see below).
* attempting to download the file Translation-en.bz2 from the repository 
(http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-updates/main/i18n/) - 
download times out.

It looks like there is an issue with the mirror, which I'll report as a bug. 
However, I would appreciate advice on whether we should trust the installed 
system, given the missing file, or if it is likely that we will encounter 
ongoing issues arising from this.

Yours,
Rob

###   ###   ###   ###   ###   ###

rob@DebianTemplate8:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get update
Hit http://security.debian.org jessie/updates InRelease
Ign http://deb.debian.org jessie InRelease
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates InRelease [145 kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main Sources [196 kB]
Get:3 http://deb.debian.org jessie Release.gpg [2,373 B]
Get:4 http://deb.debian.org jessie Release [148 kB]
Get:5 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Sources [15.5 kB]
Get:6 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:7 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main Sources [196 kB]
Get:8 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:9 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:10 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main Sources [196 kB]
Get:11 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main amd64 Packages [406 kB]
Get:12 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:13 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:14 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:15 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main amd64 Packages [406 kB]
Get:16 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main Translation-en [213 kB]
Get:17 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:18 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:19 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main Translation-en [213 kB]
Get:20 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
...
Get:103 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Get:104 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en [12.6 kB]
Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en

Get:105 http://deb.debian.org jessie/main Sources [7,055 kB]
Get:106 http://deb.debian.org jessie/main amd64 Packages [6,790 kB]
Get:107 http://deb.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en [4,583 kB]
Get:108 http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main amd64 Packages [15.5 kB]
Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en

Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en

Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en

Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en
  404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.16.204 80]
Fetched 18.8 MB in 3h 8min 24s (1,659 B/s)
W: Failed to fetch 
http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en  404 
 Not Found [IP: 151.101.16.204 80]

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.

Yours,
Rob Hardy
Applications and Systems Developer
York St. John University
01904 876953

-Original Message-
From: Liam O'Toole [mailto:liam.p.oto...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 May 2017 14:07
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 2017-05-17, RavenLX  wrote:
>
>
> On 05/17/2017 12:20 PM, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I received this message when installing from the Debian 8.8
>> netinstall ISO (debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso)
>>
>> Initial error was for ftp.uk.debian.org . I
>> tried several others (including ftp.fr.debian.org
>>  and  mirror.bytemark.co.uk) with similar errors.
>>
>> Continued with the install, which appeared to go OK otherwise. Found
>> that two lines were commented out in sources.list, post install:
>>
>> # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
>>
>> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
>>
>> #deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main
>>
>> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
>>
>> #deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main
>>
>> Uncommented these, and received the following errors on running
>> apt-get
>> update:
>>
>> Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en
>>
>> Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en
>>
>> Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en
>>
>> Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org 

Re: problemas de red

[Guido Ignacio]

El 22 de mayo de 2017, 20:14, Oscar Martinez 
escribió:

> buenas tardes.
> la verdad con este grupo he visto la luz, a tantos problemas que se me
> estan presentando donde trabajo tenemos un servidor en debian 6 el cual
> supuestamente solo estaa para reparte ip a 150 equipos con linux min 17 y
> 20 maquinas con windows xp y 7, el administrador de red me indica que las
> maquinas tienen configurada una ip fija, y no tiene un proxy configurado el
> firewall esta desactivado, y sufrimos de caidas del servicio de internet
> sucesivamente.
>
> y el administrador de la red, nos explica que es un equipo, en especial
> que nos tumba la red
>
> antes estabamos totalmente en windows y desde que migramos a linux se nos
> esta presentando el problema quien me puede dar luces para resolver y
> determinar cual es el problema gracias lista
>

El servidor debian solo sirve de servidor dhcp? Por donde tiene salida a
internet los clientes conectados?

Re: Apt Question

[tomas]

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On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:23:46AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Apt Question
> UTC Time: May 23, 2017 11:54 AM
> From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org
> 
> > If he
> > is already running a sid linux kernel and some other core packages by
> > switching to jessie he will be stuck with those packages almost 
> > indefinitely,
> 
> He's not running jessie, nor could he "switch to jessie" if he wanted
> to. Once you've installed a single binary package from post-jessie,
> there is no going back.

That will depend... on the dependencies :)

Of course, if some package from the N+1 distro pulls in something
really fat, like, say libc, which upgrades half of your box (yes,
that's doable: my box looks a bit like that at the moment), then
your way back will be a bit... painful. But if the package has no
or very little dependencies, you just have to remember that apt
(and most probably aptitude) have a natural aversion against
downgrading packages and that you have to let them know that yes,
you actually want to do such a seemingly foolish thing.

As Paracelsus put it once, "Sola dosis facit venenum" (i.e. "It's
the dosis, stupid" ;-)

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: WannaCry "ransomware" cyber attack :

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 19/05/2017 à 21:16, Haricophile a écrit :

[...]
La description de l'exploit est détaillée au point 2 dans ce document du 
CERT-FR :

http://www.cert.ssi.gouv.fr/site/CERTFR-2017-ACT-021/CERTFR-2017-ACT-021.html

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

[Anil Duggirala]

Hello, 
I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical
interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video
playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes
unwatchable (it starts using up a lot of CPU power). In the
recommendations here
(https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH) it says to
install non-free firmware, the Debian installer asked for
firmware-realtek, I provided it and I believe that I installed. But what
non-free firmware could possible correct my graphics problems? what am I
missing. I am happy my system is working, but graphics work better in
Windows, and that is morally inacceptable to me.
thanks a lot,

On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 09:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 05/21/2017 05:24 PM, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for your responses. I did not expect such quick and full
> > response. I also really don't believe it has anything to do with
> > partitioning (Debian deleted the partitions and created exactly
> > corresponding partitions with guided partitioning).
> > More info: When I installed initially with LXDE, I had horrible graphics
> > and no touchpad, upon installing the Linux-image from backports (4.9),
> > these problems were resolved. I have tried installing Linux-image 4.9
> > from backports (using the command line) now again, the problem persists.
> > However, in the debian-laptop users list, I guy who said he has the
> > exact same laptop (Asus X441SA) said he is running Gnome-Classic
> > (Gnome), I have tried asking him if he got this problem but have
> > received no response from him.
> > All commands outputs here are in a new installation (I have installed 3
> > times now), with the regular kernel (3.16)
> > Outputs:
> > inxi commands say 'command not found'
> > lspci  :
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
> > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > 00:0b.0 Signa processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Device
> > [8086:22dc] (rev 35)
> > Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc. Device [1043:1290]
> > 00:13.0 SATA Controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:22a3]
> > (rev 35)
> >
> > I have pasted Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/933539
> >
> > Should I just try Mate or XFCE?? is it possible that works?
> >
> > thanks a lot,
> 
> If you have not already upgraded again, do you have the packages "xorg 
> and dkms" installed. If not install them and reboot.
> -- 
> Jimmy Johnson
> 
> Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15
> Registered Linux User #380263
> 

Synaptic reports outdated information

[Richard Owlett]

I am using Testing with MATE D.E.

While following leads for a background image display problem I used 
Synaptic to get descriptive information about mate-control-center .


As I'm troubleshooting a graphic problem, I clicked "Get Screenshot". It 
displayed an out of date image (From Jessie I suspect).


HOWEVER, when I chose "Get Changelog" it displayed apparently current 
information ( a date-stamp of "26 Apr 2017").


I need one more piece of data to determine what package to report against.
The button click response is too fast to be able to chose "Show 
individual files".
I need that information to determine if the outdated image is being 
requested or there is outdated information on the web.


Is there a local log with data?

TIA

Re: Apt Question

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Apt Question
UTC Time: May 23, 2017 11:54 AM
From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org

> If he
> is already running a sid linux kernel and some other core packages by
> switching to jessie he will be stuck with those packages almost indefinitely,

He's not running jessie, nor could he "switch to jessie" if he wanted
to. Once you've installed a single binary package from post-jessie,
there is no going back.

Doesn't it relate to how essential the package is for the system to continue 
running? With kernels beeing completely different packages it only matters 
which one you use to boot from. I don't think you can completely remove systemd 
and reinstall it. But something non essential that would only run when you call 
it you can completely remove and reinstall from jessie. But I agree that once 
you have moved up a notch there are too many packages to replace without 
crashing. I've never tried it but synaptics says you can select and force from 
which repository to keep. I don't know whether it is possible to revert this 
way, I'll be trying it soon if nobody says it doesn't work.

Likewise, once you have installed a single binary package from
post-stretch (e.g. sid), there is no going back.

I don't think this is completely true and always. I remember having something 
that was flaky in testing and switched repositories, installed one from 
unstable I think, it had the same problem, I didn't updgrade anything else, 
completely removed, readjusted sources.list and reinstalled the current 
package. But it was a package the system could live without. Maybe it just 
happened that its dependencies in testing and unstable were the same.

(AK)

Re: Packaging problem: impossible to build package from source

[Tomaž Šolc]

Hi

On 21. 05. 2017 06:27, Michele wrote:
> I don't know if this is the best suited place for this kind of
> assistance, but I'm currently trying to create a debian .deb package
> from the official source obtained from debian repositories.
> In my case I'm trying to build openvpn, the procedure I follow is:
> apt-get source openvpn
> dpkg-source -x openvpn..dsc
> dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc
> 
> However after the whole compilation goes fine, I obtain the following
> error:

I don't know what exactly is going wrong in your case, but it is very
rare that a package wouldn't build from source. Most likely there is
something unusual about your local user or system setup that is causing
the error.

You can try building the package from a new, clean user account to see
if that makes any difference.

Another way is to use pbuilder. Pbuilder builds package in a clean build
environment in a chroot jail. Documentation is here:

https://pbuilder.alioth.debian.org/

For example, openvpn 2.4.0-5 builds fine for me with:

# pbuilder create
# pbuilder build openvpn_2.4.0-5.dsc

Best regards
Tomaž



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Re: Apt Question

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 04:57:03AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
> Michael Milliman wrote:
> > I have, for various reasons, the repositories from stable (Jessie),
> > stretch, and sid in my sources.list file. I have Stretch installed and
> > have it running for some time.

> I don't know, I am not being sarcastic, is this really good practice?

I wouldn't advise it.  The stretch + jessie part is fine, as long as
he realizes he is running stretch, which seems to be the case.  Adding
sid binaries is not wise.  If he needs a package from post-stretch,
he should backport the sid *source* package to his stretch system.

> If he
> is already running a sid linux kernel and some other core packages by
> switching to jessie he will be stuck with those packages almost indefinitely,

He's not running jessie, nor could he "switch to jessie" if he wanted
to.  Once you've installed a single binary package from post-jessie,
there is no going back.

Likewise, once you have installed a single binary package from
post-stretch (e.g. sid), there is no going back.

Re: Apt Question

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Apt Question
UTC Time: May 22, 2017 11:02 PM
From: songb...@anthive.com

Michael Milliman wrote:
> I have, for various reasons, the repositories from stable (Jessie),
> stretch, and sid in my sources.list file. I have Stretch installed and
> have it running for some time. On occasion, there is a bug in Stretch
> and I revert to the stable version of the package until the bug gets
> worked out. I also, on occasion, use a more advanced version of the
> package and get it from sid (with a careful look at the proposed changes
> to the system when doing so). I have set synaptic to prefer the Stretch
> distribution. However, when I reload, and tell synaptic to mark all
> upgrades, it marks upgrades which it will pull from sid. Is there a way
> to tell synaptic to ignore those upgrades, while allowing me to manually
> install them should I wish to do so? I had thought that telling
> synaptic to prefer the Stretch distribution would have handled that, but
> I guess not. I figure I'm just missing something.

you can always uncheck the apt lines for stretch,
and sid in the Settings -> Repositories and then do
an update to reload. then that will show you only
the versions available in Jessie. then any versions
you have upgraded beyond Jessie will show up as
Installed (local or obsolete) in the Status selection.

I don't know, I am not being sarcastic, is this really good practice? If he is 
already running a sid linux kernel and some other core packages by switching to 
jessie he will be stuck with those packages almost indefinitely, if the system 
doesn't eventually break due to inconsistencies. Meanwhile any security and 
important updates in jessie will not apply to all those testing and unstable 
till their version gets superseded, and if ever. Let's say he has linux 4.9.. 
on and jessie does an upgrade to 3.20, and packages in jessie are checked to 
all work with 3.20. Who says that their update will work with an outdated 4.9?

Re: Custom Debian LiveCD?

[Fungi4All]

 Original Message 
Subject: Custom Debian LiveCD?
UTC Time: May 22, 2017 10:23 PM
From: anonym...@foto.nl1.torservers.net

I'd like to make my own custom Debian livecd for private
use. However, when I search for this on the web it's either
posts which talk about discontinued programs which have
been abandoned and/or no longer work, or pages with step by
step instructions, dozens of pages long, and usually followed
by posts with attempts to correct the tutorial, complain
about it being broken and so on. Thank you for the fish.

This seems as straight forward as it gets 
http://docs.kali.org/development/live-build-a-custom-kali-iso
If you are planning on using this on a variety of boxes I assume you have to 
load it with a variety of firmware or rely at the root console and the net 
connection to install them as necessary. Kali is just debian plus custom tools.

If it is not so important to plug in and play in any x64 box then why not 
install a system on usb? For use on vm configure the vm and save it. Or, a 
minimal debian oem live that can get update as they do, and an encrypted 
persistent partition in the usb with all the packages locally available. In 
which case why try to do what tails does best?

(AK)

Re: Lire des vidéos sur Vimeo avec Firefox?

[Stephane Ascoet]

Le 21/05/2017 à 02:17, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :

Au cas où ça marcherait pour certaines, voici un exemple qui ne
fonctionne pas: https://vimeo.com/183181894


Bonjour, chez moi ca fonctionne et j'utilise le greffon FlashStopper 
pour empecher les videos de demarrer toutes seules.


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Bien cordialement, Stephane Ascoet