(no problems) Re: X, new video card, and servers.

1999-03-08 Thread Daniel J. Brosemer
  When you say that it's a 3.3.3.1 server, I assume this means it won't work
  with 3.3.2, and I've heard that compiling xfree is a pain (though haven't
  tried it).  Is there an experimental version somewhere (I've looked in
  /debian/project/experimental -- is there another repository of
  experimental packages?)
 
 It's working without a hint of trouble on my system.  I'm currently
 running the most current X packages out of slink (3.3.2.3), plus the
 pre-compiled 3DLabs server (glibc2, 3.3.3.1) from the XFree86 site.  Now
 whether it's by chance or design that the two versions co-exist peacefully,
 I really can't say...

This is excellent news!

 I heard on debian-devel a week or so ago that someone had some
 experimental 3.3.3.1 packages available, though I don't have the address
 handy.  A quick search through the mailing-list archives ought to turn
 it up, tho.

I'll have a look.

Thanks for the info, I'll report back when I pop the card in.

-Dano


X, new video card, and servers.

1999-03-07 Thread Daniel J. Brosemer

I recently bought a new 2D/3D video card based on the 3DLabs chipset, and
the www.xfree86.org serverlist tells me to use the XF86_3DLabs server.
This isn't included in the debian distrobution.  I'm not sure if that
server is only for 3.3.3 and I'm not quite sure how to find out.

My question is a) is it for 3.3.3 only and if so, are there any 3.3.3
debs?  If not, are there docs on compiling my own X server and inserting
it into debian's list?  I would want to remove my old xserver-mach64, but
AFAIK dpkg would complain about dependencies.

Just a few frantic questions before the card makes it to my door.  Thanks
a lot!

-Dano


Re: X, new video card, and servers.

1999-03-07 Thread Daniel J. Brosemer
On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Gregory T. Norris wrote:

Thanks very much.  I was actually kind of hoping for an RTFM answer too so
that I could find this stuff out in the future without posting
questions to the list that I could probably find out by reading some
manual. the XFree howto doesn't have specific info on 3.3.2 vs 3.3.3,
and I find the xfree86.org site difficult to navigate.

the /etc/X11/Xserver tip is exactly what I needed, thanks a million!

I've banged my head on aliening RPMs before, do Xservers typically alien
well?

When you say that it's a 3.3.3.1 server, I assume this means it won't work
with 3.3.2, and I've heard that compiling xfree is a pain (though haven't
tried it).  Is there an experimental version somewhere (I've looked in
/debian/project/experimental -- is there another repository of
experimental packages?)

Thanks again for your help.

-Dano

 It is indeed a 3.3.3.1 server.  Essentially, you can just download the
 pre-compiled binary from your favorite XFree86 mirror-site, and extract
 it under /usr/local somewhere.  Then edit the first line of
 /etc/X11/Xserver to specify the new server.  Of course, once 3.3.3.1 has
 been packaged (probably won't be much longer, now that slink is [again]
 almost out the door), you won't need to worry about all of the above.
 
 If you'd prefer, I can send you a .deb package for that server which was
 converted from the tarball via alien (it's not particularly large).  You'd
 still need to edit /etc/X11/Xserver manually.
 
  I recently bought a new 2D/3D video card based on the 3DLabs chipset, and
  the www.xfree86.org serverlist tells me to use the XF86_3DLabs server.
  This isn't included in the debian distrobution.  I'm not sure if that
  server is only for 3.3.3 and I'm not quite sure how to find out.
  
  My question is a) is it for 3.3.3 only and if so, are there any 3.3.3
  debs?  If not, are there docs on compiling my own X server and inserting
  it into debian's list?  I would want to remove my old xserver-mach64, but
  AFAIK dpkg would complain about dependencies.
  
  Just a few frantic questions before the card makes it to my door.  Thanks
  a lot!
  
  -Dano
 
 


Re: X, new video card, and servers.

1999-03-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 12:46:16PM -0500, Daniel J. Brosemer wrote:
 I recently bought a new 2D/3D video card based on the 3DLabs chipset, and
 the www.xfree86.org serverlist tells me to use the XF86_3DLabs server.
 This isn't included in the debian distrobution.  I'm not sure if that
 server is only for 3.3.3 and I'm not quite sure how to find out.

Yes, I believe that card is supported by the 3.3.3 servers.

 My question is a) is it for 3.3.3 only and if so, are there any 3.3.3
 debs?  If not, are there docs on compiling my own X server and inserting
 it into debian's list?  I would want to remove my old xserver-mach64, but
 AFAIK dpkg would complain about dependencies.

See http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html.  Also, I doubt anything
depends explicitly on xserver-mach64; once another X server is installed,
it should be perfectly safe to remove the Mach64 server.

-- 
G. Branden Robinson  |There's nothing an agnostic can't do
Debian GNU/Linux |if he doesn't know whether he believes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |in it or not.
cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |-- Graham Chapman


pgpl8mZ3TVBch.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: X, new video card, and servers.

1999-03-07 Thread Gregory T. Norris
On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 03:12:08PM -0500, Daniel J. Brosemer wrote:
 On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Gregory T. Norris wrote:
 
 Thanks very much.  I was actually kind of hoping for an RTFM answer too so
 that I could find this stuff out in the future without posting
 questions to the list that I could probably find out by reading some
 manual. the XFree howto doesn't have specific info on 3.3.2 vs 3.3.3,
 and I find the xfree86.org site difficult to navigate.
 
 the /etc/X11/Xserver tip is exactly what I needed, thanks a million!

No problem.  I was never able to find the XFree86 3.3.2 vs 3.3.3 stuff
spelled out clearly either.  In fact, most of the info I got on came
from this very list. g

 I've banged my head on aliening RPMs before, do Xservers typically alien
 well?

In this case they will.  The tarballs from the XFree86 ftp-site each
contain only a single file - the precompiled binary itself.  Running
alien on it will only extract it from the original archive and repack it
into a debfile.  I'd be a little more reluctant to convert it had it
originally been a rpm archive, as I've had much less luck with those...
generally because of the differing file-structure layout between Debian
and Red Hat.  Still, if there's only one file in the archive...

 When you say that it's a 3.3.3.1 server, I assume this means it won't work
 with 3.3.2, and I've heard that compiling xfree is a pain (though haven't
 tried it).  Is there an experimental version somewhere (I've looked in
 /debian/project/experimental -- is there another repository of
 experimental packages?)

It's working without a hint of trouble on my system.  I'm currently
running the most current X packages out of slink (3.3.2.3), plus the
pre-compiled 3DLabs server (glibc2, 3.3.3.1) from the XFree86 site.  Now
whether it's by chance or design that the two versions co-exist peacefully,
I really can't say...

I heard on debian-devel a week or so ago that someone had some
experimental 3.3.3.1 packages available, though I don't have the address
handy.  A quick search through the mailing-list archives ought to turn
it up, tho.