Re: write to then read from the serial port
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:23:10PM +0200, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, Please I just need a small program which write a character ( or several) then read it from that serial port. I used a null modem ( since I have just on serial port device). I want a simple serial connection. I consulted Howto on tdlp and other , nothing is simple for me, ?? I can write on the port but not read So the coffee HOWTO didn't help? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120717114506.GB12041@tal
Re: Can't run iceweasel [Couldn't load XPCOM]
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:09:18PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: I'd purge that, and reinstall it, someone has tampered with it; otherwise why would /usr/lib/xulrunner-10.0/libxul.so be missing. It was not missing but was being reported as missing. Weird! Anyway I did remove and purge: xulrunner-10.0 iceweasel Were there any suspicious messages during the purge? JFTR, what does: root@tal:~# apt-cache policy xulrunner-10.0 show? I've got: Installed: 10.0.5esr-2 Candidate: 10.0.5esr-2 | xulrunner-dev10.0.5esr-1 Why is xulrunner-dev installed? I'd purge that. And xulrunner-dev Do you remember why/how that package was installed? IOW, have you at any stage tried to compile a local version? Then reinstalled iceweasel which pulled in xulrunner-10.0. Were there any suspicious messages during the reinstall? (if not sure, could you wrap the purge and reinstall in a typescript showing all commands and their output.) And now: iceweasel XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib/xulrunner-10.0/libxpcom.so: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Couldn't load XPCOM. And still: ls -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-10.0/libx* root root15048 Jun 29 09:52 /usr/lib/xulrunner-10.0/libxpcom.so root root 20280312 Jun 29 09:52 /usr/lib/xulrunner-10.0/libxul.so OK, same as mine. Just as a matter of interest does this: root@tal:~# ls -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-10.0/ total 24032 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Feb 18 12:30 chrome - ../../share/xulrunner-10.0/chrome -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 Jun 30 01:52 chrome.manifest drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 13 16:50 components lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Feb 18 12:30 defaults - ../../share/xulrunner-10.0/defaults -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 137 Jun 30 01:51 dependentlibs.list lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jun 30 01:52 dictionaries - ../../share/hunspell lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Feb 18 12:30 icons - ../../share/xulrunner-10.0/icons -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6904 Jun 30 01:52 libmozalloc.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jun 30 01:52 libmozjs.so - ../libmozjs.so.10d -rw-r--r-- 1 root root15048 Jun 30 01:52 libxpcom.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20280312 Jun 30 01:52 libxul.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root41780 Jun 30 01:52 mozilla-xremote-client -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3872319 Jun 30 01:52 omni.ja -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48 Jun 30 01:51 platform.ini -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root32432 Jun 30 01:52 plugin-container -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 586 Jun 30 01:51 reportbug-helper-script -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root10380 Jun 30 01:51 run-mozilla.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root6 Jun 30 01:51 update.locale -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root33164 Jun 30 01:52 updater -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root93296 Jun 30 01:52 xpcshell -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3913 Jun 30 01:51 xulrunner -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root63828 Jun 30 01:52 xulrunner-bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root68048 Jun 30 01:52 xulrunner-stub root@tal:~# agree with yours? So not an ounce of progress... I guess. au contraire. :) Just for interest, can you do (as root) updatedb, then locate libxul And: apt-cache policy libnss3 Also, does this help? root@tal:~# ls -al /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ total 24 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 10 14:56 . drwxr-xr-x 112 root root 12288 Jul 17 21:45 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 108 Dec 26 2011 i486-linux-gnu.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root44 Jan 24 2011 libc.conf root@tal:~# less /etc/ld.so.conf.d/i486-linux-gnu.conf # Multiarch support /lib/i386-linux-gnu /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu /lib/i486-linux-gnu /usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu root@tal:~# less /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf # libc default configuration /usr/local/lib root@tal:~# root@tal:~# ls -al /usr/local/lib/ total 20 drwxrwsr-x 5 root staff 4096 Jun 10 15:02 . drwxrwsr-x 10 root staff 4096 Mar 12 2011 .. drwxrwsr-x 4 root staff 4096 Jul 13 16:54 python2.6 drwxrwsr-x 4 root staff 4096 May 13 11:03 python2.7 drwxr-sr-x 4 root staff 4096 Jun 20 20:45 site_ruby root@tal:~# -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120717124614.GH12041@tal
Re: [OT] Re: Test Post
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:35:38AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 15:27 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:35:40 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: * Do not send test messages to determine whether your mail client is working. Shouldn't be (or wouldn't be nice to have, I don't want to sound too agressive) a dedicated mailing list for this purpose? No! IMO it's ok to sent a test mail. If the subject would be KMail, headers are coming through improper and the mail's body would inquire, if somebody else experienced the same, it wouldn't offend against the code of conduct. Troll. http://www.debian.org/./MailingLists/#codeofconduct * Do not send test messages to determine whether your mail client is working. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120717125010.GI12041@tal
Re: What does group consider to be on topic?
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 04:07:38PM +, Camaleón wrote: Anyway, whether you are in doubt you can always tag the subject accordingly to avoid complains from the rest of the mailing list participants. Oh, right! like if you turn your hazard lights on in your car you can park anywhere you like. :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120717170628.GA19399@tal
Re: What does group consider to be on topic?
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:57:11PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:06:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 04:07:38PM +, Camaleón wrote: Anyway, whether you are in doubt you can always tag the subject accordingly to avoid complains from the rest of the mailing list participants. Oh, right! like if you turn your hazard lights on in your car you can park anywhere you like. :( Well, exactly... that's what an OT flag is for: you are saying hey, people, something happens here but I don't know what, watch out! Okay, what do you prefer, that people stops asking here because they're afraid of the mailing list users reaction? Nah, that would be even worst, I'm more in the line of you first shoot and then ask as no one can be harmed here ;-) How about suggesting the use of: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic instead? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120718115836.GD31237@tal
Re: what graphic card to buy?
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:21:03AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: The original justification for patents was that the government would protect your invention for a short period if you told the world about how it works. I thought that too, but ... :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Monopolies_1623 Copyright and patents were never about promoting culture and innovations; from the very start they were legalized bribes to give the king some income and to let businesses get rid of competition. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120718123527.GE31237@tal
Re: What does group consider to be on topic?
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:57:11PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:06:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Oh, right! like if you turn your hazard lights on in your car you can park anywhere you like. :( Well, exactly... that's what an OT flag is for: you are saying hey, people, something happens here but I don't know what, watch out! As an aside, I was referring to people parking anywhere they like and thinking it is ok to do so if they turn their hazard lights on, not in the genuine case of watch out! something happens here An accident, or **genuine** haard. Relating this to the [OT] flag; sometimes during a thread, a sub-topic will start, perhaps by a misleading statement or remark which prompts a corrective statement by an eagle eyed reader. This corrective action, may in fact, be unrelated to the original topic, and hence the [OT] flag is a good indicator that the discussion in this sub-thread is, infact off-topic. A threaded MUA, like mutt allows you to hide such sub-threads. If it is a case of hey, people, something happens here but I don't know what then IMHO, an [OT] flag is not needed. HTH, HAND. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120718141800.GA10523@tal
Re: What does group consider to be on topic?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:19:20AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: You are missing the point: Chris is talking about people that would be able to make it to the next parking place or even repair garage, but chose to stop in the middle of the road asking other traffic participants about his problem (which they may not know anything about). The least they could do would be to try not disturbing the traffic :( No not really. Imagine lady with kids in car and she wants to park to quickly get some shopping, she can't be bothered looking for park, so she illegally parks. One of her kids says Hey mum you can't park here its dangerous. So she turns the blinkers/hazard lights on. Now correlate that to marking post as [OT] (turning blinkers on) versus looking for legal park (posting to off topic list, googling for correct list, asking etc ...) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120720043228.GC11794@tal
Why have d-community-offtopic? (Re: What does group consider to be on topic?)
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:45:15PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:58:36 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: How about suggesting the use of: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic instead? It does not apply for the case we are treating here: you post into the offtopic mailing list when you know *beforehand* that you are not going to ask for something related to Debian not when you are in doubt :-) Wouldn't it make more sense that if you **think it could** be off topic that you post to the off topic list? What sort of posts would go to d-community-offtopic? How do I cook brocolli? How do I spell brocolli? I genuinely interested in any thoughts. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120720044631.GD11794@tal
Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law [WAS: Re: what graphic card to buy?]
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 03:20:03PM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:08:58 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote: Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux user--I'm certainly one of them--needs to realize what real specialized software is, and what it costs to develop, and why it's not free. Please don't confuse free (beer) with free(dom). Also, I don't have a It's not that simple. If I realize my software as FLOSS, even if I charge money for it, how many copies can I realistically hope to sell if any and all my customers are perfectly free to distribute it gratis? There are plenty of Debian consultants making money. Just because the source code is available, doesn't mean you have to spoon feed the user for free. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120720052637.GF11794@tal
Re: To pulse or not to pulse?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:41:20AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: However, here's the instruction how to build a dummy package for Debian based distros: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html titleAPT HOWTO (Obsolete Documentation) - Very useful helpers/title ^^ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120720133312.GA19764@tal
Re: Why have d-community-offtopic? (Re: What does group consider to be on topic?)
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 02:46:43PM +, Camaleón wrote: But I wouldn't post there how to configure an Oracle database with the current Debian stable. Hope you see the slightly difference between a brocolli and Oracle. Umm, I think so. :) I hope you see Oracle support doesn't come under the umbrella of debian-user. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012072907.GB7688@tal
Re: Problems of Second writing of MBR with GRUB
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 08:02:49AM +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: I have already installed windows xp and squeezei386 with grub in MBR. I would like install squeeze amd64 in other partition for multi boot. If I install grub in MBR while installing squeezeamd64, then how do I boot squeezei386 as its boot info is not in its partition boot sector. How should I go about to boot all the three OSes. Or change to wheezy where multi arch support is available. http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/ http://www.osnews.com/story/24991/Debian_7_Wheezy_To_Introduce_Multiarch_Support/ wheezy will be next stable in about 5 months anyway, might save trouble later on. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120721125041.GC7688@tal
Re: Why have d-community-offtopic? (Re: What does group consider to be on topic?)
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:32:14AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:19:07 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 02:46:43PM +, Camaleón wrote: But I wouldn't post there how to configure an Oracle database with the current Debian stable. Hope you see the slightly difference between a brocolli and Oracle. Umm, I think so. :) I hope you see Oracle support doesn't come under the umbrella of debian-user. No, of course; it was just an example for a question that can fit here tagged with [OT]. But, it **IS** ON TOPIC if they are not looking for Oracle support, so marking it [OT] is counter productive. logical conclusion: d-community-offtopic would be the list to post to if they wanted free Oracle support. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120722070647.GB19708@tal
Re: What does this mean?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:58:52AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running a computer box that is recently purchased second hand - new to me, but not new. While running a script that does a disk to disk copy with some reformatting on a file of a few GB, I got this burst of lines on all open gnome-terminal windows: start of cut and paste: [snip kernel messages. end The computer is a Dell desktop on which I have loaded Squeeze and Gnome. I've seen this type of outburst from this computer before, but haven't had the presence of mind to capture a copy and send it to this list. The computer is running only a home brew data processing script in written in Bash and there are several window open to monitor different aspects of its progress. The script does not crash. It continues to be possible to interact with it, including, even using aptitude to install software. What does this outburst mean? Dunno, but I wouldn't trust it. I'd suspect a h/w problem. Don't store any important data on it. Can you guarrantee that the data integrity is ok? Boot a knoppix cd, run memtest. Find a test disk to test h/w HDD, motherboard, etc Anyone know of any good ones? I'm on the lookout for some myself :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120722072400.GC19708@tal
Re: Why have d-community-offtopic? (Re: What does group consider to be on topic?)
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 01:38:27PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:06:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: But, it **IS** ON TOPIC if they are not looking for Oracle support, so marking it [OT] is counter productive. And when is that to happen? What's the line that makes the difference between both? In the end, you are asking for support about an Oracle product, right? It could be an installation issue; working in with the Debian system. Then it is not [OT] d-community-offtopic would be the list to post to if they wanted free Oracle support. The list to post would be in that case the Oracle forum or mailing lists Oracle don't tend to give out free help. Could you find a mailing list? but the OP already knows that and he/she is not looking for *that kind* of support, Free help is better than paying for it. :) that's why he/she tags the subject as OT here, not in debian offtopic ML. Are you suggesting that some posts to d-community-offtopic be marked as [OT] ? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120722200306.GB31191@tal
Re: is it rational to close the 139 port
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:01:50PM +0800, lina wrote: Just today one website I cared about failed to open, certainly it's under attack. And how does a firewall help in that case. If you don't want your intranet web server being accessed from outside, then that's what a firewall is for. It doesn't make any sense having a firewall on a standalone machine, like a laptop, if you see what I mean. Well, that's my understanding of it. P.S, In the past, if some books/webpage/blogs or anything which inspired you lots in this area, appreciate to share. I don't have CS background. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/552 -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120722202735.GC31191@tal
Re: What does this mean?
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 04:18:07PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I have already downloaded Knoppix v7.0.1, per Chris' suggestion, but have not yet found out what to do with it. Does it have memory, component test software on it? Yes. At boot prompt read help screens. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120722230432.GB4492@tal
Re: What does this mean?
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:21:34PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20120723_110432, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 04:18:07PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I have already downloaded Knoppix v7.0.1, per Chris' suggestion, but have not yet found out what to do with it. Does it have memory, component test software on it? Yes. At boot prompt read help screens. :) Using the disk I downloaded yesterday and got burnt today, there is a fancy KDE gui, but no help screens about such trivia as getting it Did you not see this: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix701-bootscreen.png -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120723142817.GA17379@tal
ultimatebootcd (was ... Re: What does this mean?)
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:21:34PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: fancy KDE gui, but no help screens about such trivia as getting it working on possibly defective, broken, hardware. I got it working on a different computer and discovered that it uses UNIONFS to overlay an Regarding testing other components, have a look at the ultimatebootcd http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ I'm downloading it now (359.8MB) via bittorrent. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120723143449.GB17379@tal
Folding at home with Debian
Hi, Home page: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage Package available here (for wheezy): https://fah-web.stanford.edu/file-releases/beta/release/fahclient/debian-testing-32bit/v7.1/fahclient_7.1.52_i386.deb BUT dependency problem with: fahclient : Depends: libssl0.9.8 but it is not installable BUT EASILY fixed by following directions here: http://foldingforum.org/./viewtopic.php?f=67t=21736p=217859hilit=Debian#p217860 THEN dpkg -i fahclient_7.1.52_i386.deb That last link shows the true versatility of the Debian package system, and even if you don't want to help get rid of all world diseases, it has some handy information in it. Once installed edit: /etc/fahclient/config.xml The Debian team is 2019 hint, hint. Read: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey A passkey will make sure your contributions are unique even if someone has the same user name. Once rec, just paste it into the passkey value=/ section of /etc/fahclient/config.xml You can run more instances by running /usr/bin/FAHClient as a user. Good luck! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120724142941.GC8663@tal
Re: Why have d-community-offtopic? (Re: What does group consider to be on topic?)
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 01:16:43PM +, Camaleón wrote: Ah, you finally got it! Now you see why someone would ask an OT here? :-) Grin I have always got it!, my point is regarding YOU *encouraging* that behaviour. OP: Paraphrase: Just mark it [OT] and it's OK (side note: yes, there are forums and mailing lists available at their site) Link, to mailing list? Handy to know for redirection purposes. :-) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120724144747.GE8663@tal
Re: What does this mean?
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 08:50:44PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20120724_022817, Chris Bannister wrote: Did you not see this: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix701-bootscreen.png In the bottom left hand corner there is boot:. The rest is art work, not information. Huh? what happens when you press F2 there, or F3 or Fx (0 x 10) You should find a screen with boot options. ONE of them¹ mentions booting into memtest. Are you sure you can't find it? ¹ There are heaps of other boot options. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120724145614.GF8663@tal
Re: lost libnss3.so.1d
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:47:05AM +0200, Tom Rausner wrote: Hi Just a little update; I've noticed the guys in the UBUNTU branch is having problems with Evolution after the upgrade to 11.10. Bug #855725 ; Evolution does not start after the latest updates (evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) OK, there is a slight difference. Their problem is libnss3.so and not libnss3.so.1d... but it seems very related. Are we having a bug in Evolution too, or is it running smoothly everywhere.. apart from here ? Try *purging* evolution, reinstalling libnss3, then installing evolution again. It MIGHT work, see thread Can't run iceweasel [Couldn't load XPCOM] oops, broken thread, but see: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg01316.html -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120724150950.GG8663@tal
Re: the rest of the postgresql mystery
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 06:25:45AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Files from previous versions of postgresql are on the system and I found it impossible to remove those packages with aptitude after several attempts. For that reason I will be reinstalling debian and not reinstalling postgresql later. Which packages, and what commands did you use? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120728093511.GB29181@tal
Re: startx vs. xdm
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:31:51PM -0400, John L. Cunningham wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:20:02AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: In the process of trying to make xmonad work I've found that startx fails whereas xdm succeeds. The logs are here. startx fails: http://carnot.yi.org/Xorg.0.log.old xdm succeeds: http://carnot.yi.org/Xorg.0.log My summary of the differences follows. Any insights to direct further studies? I would only note that startx and xdm don't necessarily look at the same startup files. xdm looks for .xsession and startx looks for .xinitrc. I use startx, and only have an .xsessionrc file. I know it is read because of the xterm settings. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120728155202.GF29181@tal
Re: mail server
[Please trim your posts.] On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:53:19PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any good howto on Debian Squeeze on following tools Google is your friend. It also corrects spelling mistakes. :) -postfidx Web Results 1 - 10 of about 276,000 for +squeeze +postfidx +howto. (0.34 seconds) -dovecot Web Results 1 - 10 of about 65,300 for +squeeze +dovecot +howto. (0.34 seconds) -postfixadmin (web interface) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 36,000 for +squeeze +postfixadmin +howto. (0.41 seconds) -roundcube Web Results 1 - 10 of about 27,200 for +squeeze +roundcube +howto. (0.31 seconds) -spamassassin Web Results 1 - 1 of about 1 for +squeeze +spamassassin +how to. (0.16 seconds) Showing results for +squeeze +spamassassin +how to. Search instead for +squeeze +spamassassin +howto -clamv Web Results 1 - 10 of about 24,800,000 for +squeeze +clamv +howto. (0.41 seconds) Did you mean: +squeeze +clamav +howto -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729044808.GA1884@tal
Re: Debian 8 to be called Jessie
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 02:31:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: Hi, I just read it from debian-devel-announce¹: *** Surprise! - It's become a tradition that the reward for reading all the way through our first post-freeze mail is to be one of the first few to know the name of the next release. Continuing in that vein, we are happy to announce that Debian 8.0 will be known as Jessie. *** Ladies come back to Debian :-P Jessie James shot a lot of people, perhaps that was the reason. :) ¹http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg4.html -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729061105.GB1884@tal
.xinitrc doesn't work, .xsessionrc does! (was ... Re: startx vs. xdm)
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:52:58AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Chris Bannister I use startx, and only have an .xsessionrc file. I know it is read because of the xterm settings. Resources, whether for xterm, urxvt, or similar, usually are not configured into .xinitrc, neither .xsession (I never used .xsessionrc). Instead they are specified in .Xresources and .Xdefaults. However it might be you xrdb them from .xsessionrc, though .Xdefaults the old days was supposed to beloaded automatically without being loaded through xrdb. Now, to make both startx and xdm (and other DMs using .xsession) what is required is to have .xinitrc with execute permissions (.xsession requires them for for several DMs if I recall correctly since it gets executed), and then create a link from .xinitrc to .xsession. If I don't call it .xsessionrc, startx doesn't work, it just dumps me back to the tty with: X.Org X Server 1.12.1.902 (1.12.2 RC 2) Release Date: 2012-05-19 [snip other] xinit: connection to X server lost The screen doesn't even flicker. I am using fvwm, no DM at all. I have tried, .xinitrc, .xsession, with and without execute permission, all give above message¹: xinit: connection to X server lost I don't have either an .Xdefaults or a .Xresources file. .xsessionrc works whether it is executable or not ¹ I also get that message when I quit fvwm. The point is, X doesn't even start in this case. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729065031.GC1884@tal
Re: internet probably broken
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 09:28:27PM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:12:11PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free amd64 Packages 47% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]E: Method gave invalid 200 URI Start message Every contact made with http.debian.net eventually gave the kind of message shown above today. Probaly some link in the internet between me and all of these servers got broken. Eventually I'll be able to do a full aptitude update but apparently not today. I'm confused. You're using debian.net OR debian.org? AFAK *net is the official address for repositories. JFTR Other way around. :) debian.net -- unnoficial debian.org -- official -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729065342.GD1884@tal
Re: what graphics card to choose
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 07:04:34AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: Actually, right now, the nVidia-provided nVidia driver packaged in Debian has a number of problems with 3D support on several cards. For example I use an nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ which is 2-3 years old -- in other words, neither old nor bleeding edge -- and 3D support is completely broken right now and has been since the last working version at 290.10. You can get a Gnome 3 session going but once you start to exercise the graphics subsystem, eg watching a video, JFTR, you don't need accelerated graphics to watch a video. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120730093338.GC14154@tal
Re: Printers using free software only
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 04:51:11PM +, Camaleón wrote: I just wanted to point a scenario where the jump to a PDF filter as the default backend can have its troubles and not be nor as good nor as simple nor as easy as the white papers say. Companies have always showed different needs than users and these jumps are seen differently when you have to hold them as user or as admin. The understanding I got from reading Roger's post was that if you are using CUPS, *THEN* you are automatically using a PDF filter paradigm because it **is considered superior/more robust**. That was my reading of it. Please, someone correct me if my reading of Roger's post is incorrect. The discussion of whether it **actually is** superior/more robust is irrelevant, and better discussed with the CUPS developers. :-) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731074313.GC17427@tal
Re: what graphics card to choose
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 02:09:54PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 30 iul 12, 21:33:38, Chris Bannister wrote: JFTR, you don't need accelerated graphics to watch a video. But you may need something like VDPAU. Ohh, OK. Interesting ... -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731074823.GD17427@tal
strong passwords (was ... Re: is it rational to close the 139 port)
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 07:14:06AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Andrei POPESCU wrote: http://xkcd.com/936/ (I wonder how much truth there is behind this comic...) Don't bother wondering. Read the paper. http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginally-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices/ http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/03/passphrases-maybe-not-as-secur.php You need to have gibberish passphrases if you want it to be secure... Right!, so people write it down on the side of the monitor cause they can't remember it. Yeah, I've seen it. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731075646.GE17427@tal
Re: is it rational to close the 139 port
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 06:15:26PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:54:14 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Hello John, Brad Rogers writes: Yeah, on a Post-It note. Stuck to the monitor. That's what people do when you tell them not to write it down. _Tell_ them to write it down and tell them _how_. As it happens, I agree with you; write 'em down, and keep 'em safe. Or just have one, but make it a good 'un, and never tell anyone. Reasons: 1) If someone can brute force guess it, you've got other problems. i.e. -- you're targetted! 2) Clothes, possessions, etc. can be searched. You may never know until its too late! 3) If someone wants it, at least you'll know about it¹ Well, actually 2 - one for really important stuff, other for unimportant stuff; I can trust my bank to keep it safe, but local supermarket is another story. ¹ I consider this an advantage. See reason 2) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731083156.GK17427@tal
Re: .xinitrc doesn't work, .xsessionrc does! (was ... Re: startx vs. xdm)
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:14:54AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: Have you tried not having your .xssesionrc at all? Does it provide the same result to you as with .xsessionrc? Yes, except for: -8 .xsessionrc -8 /home/chrisb/background.sh xterm -fn 10x20 -xrm XTerm.vt100.background: #CCA8AA -xrm \ XTerm.vt100.foreground: blue -geom 120x15 -8 .xsessionrc -8 -8 background.sh -8 feh --bg-max /home/chrisb/images/logo.gif -8 background.sh -8 IOW, it reads .xsessionrc If I call it .xsession/.xinitrc it doesn't work, probably cause I haven't got the exec fvwm cantation at the end of the .xsessionrc file. Starting fvwm is handled via the alternatives system: t@tal:~# update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/fvwm2 /usr/bin/fvwm2 - priority 50 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/fvwm2.1.gz Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/fvwm2'. I've been using .xinitrc and .xsession with plain fluxbox (no DE), to work with plain startx or xdm (other DMs as well such as slim and wdm), and I have had no problems for around 10 years (well I no longer use slim neither wdm now a days)... For setting resources I use .Xresources and .Xdefaults. What does: update-alternatives --display x-window-manager display for you? Any ways if you look at the startx man page, you'll see at the bottom the configuration files. It only talks about .xinitrc, and .xserverrc (not .xsessionrc), and I would not play around with .xserverrc, the I read about .xsessionrc somewhere, can't remember where, cause I was having trouble on an upgrade. Not sure if it was etch - lenny, or lenny - squeeze Now, this is the reason I recommended, to reduce maintaining several initialization files, just provide execute permissions for .xinitrc, and then make a link from it to .xsession. Make sure you call the WM Already now you have two initialization files. :) I could get away with none (no .xinitrc, no .xsession, no .xsessionrc) but then I'd have to put all configuration in the ~/.fvwm/config file. Although the default setup is quite good. That is, if you don't have a ~/.fvwm/config file. BTW, startx does not use .xession at all... Right. Can you provide the .xinitrc you're trying for your startx attempts? See above explanation. As a fallback, before calling your WM, you can also call xterm, or some other term, to keep Xorg up while the term is up... If that works, then it might be something is wrong when calling the WM... JTFR, there *IS* no problem. This may be because I'm using fvwm which is hooked into the alternatives system *AND* has a working default. IOW, if I try some other WM, I could very well need an .xinitrc with some exec WM - here cantation, BUT it looks like it is handled by the alternatives system. Using .xinitrc could be defunct, but no one has told us. :-) Maybe, if you use .Xresources and/or .Xdefaults you need an .xinitrc. P.S. Possibly this exec fvwm cantation not working was the cause of my search, leading to the use of an .xsessionrc -- but It was a long time ago now and my memory is a bit hazy on the details. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731185651.GA25954@tal
Re: startx vs. xdm
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:52:58AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: I use startx, and only have an .xsessionrc file. I know it is read because of the xterm settings. Resources, whether for xterm, urxvt, or similar, usually are not configured into .xinitrc, neither .xsession (I never used .xsessionrc). Instead they are specified in .Xresources and .Xdefaults. However it might be you xrdb them from .xsessionrc, though .Xdefaults the old days was supposed to beloaded automatically without being loaded through xrdb. A quick search in google: http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/28595-Create-.xsessionrc-for-quick-session-changes Although it says .xsessionrc is read by .xsession, yet I have no .xsession file. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1130521.html But from here: root@tal:~# file /usr/bin/startx /usr/bin/startx: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable which points to (if you have no $HOME/.xinitrc): /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc # global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx) which sources: /etc/X11/Xsession which AHAH! [...] SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources SYSSESSIONDIR=/etc/X11/Xsession.d USERXSESSION=$HOME/.xsession USERXSESSIONRC=$HOME/.xsessionrc ALTUSERXSESSION=$HOME/.Xsession ERRFILE=$HOME/.xsession-errors [...] # use run-parts to source every file in the session directory; we source # instead of executing so that the variables and functions defined above # are available to the scripts, and so that they can pass variables to # each # other SESSIONFILES=$(run-parts --list $SYSSESSIONDIR) if [ -n $SESSIONFILES ]; then set +e for SESSIONFILE in $SESSIONFILES; do . $SESSIONFILE done set -e fi etc, etc, etc, -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731194012.GB25954@tal
Re: is it rational to close the 139 port
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 10:22:09AM -0400, Celejar wrote: There have been numerous well-publicized breaches at banks, major retailers, etc. (and doubtless even more unpublicized ones). If / when hackers get your credentials to one institution, do you really want them to have the keys to all your accounts? OK, I downloaded pwgen, issued pwgen -s 15 3 changed chosen password. All I have to worry about now is someone getting hold of that piece of paper. IOW, http://xkcd.com/792/, and Glenn's post tipped my thinking. Perhaps it is misleading for pwgen to state: [...] -s, --secure These should only be used for machine passwords, since otherwise it's almost guaranteed that users will simply write the password on a piece of paper taped to the monitor... -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120803072656.GA7609@tal
Re: Debian multimedia repository
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 03:17:08PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: It's not Christian's fault that there are incompatibilities. There are things in the programs he packages that require libraries to be compiled differently from the ones in the Debian repositories. He's aware of the conflicts but is not in a position to resolve them as far as I can tell. It may not even be possible to resolve them. So you seem to know more than: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-April/026170.html http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-April/026219.html A google search: Christian Marillat site:lists.alioth.debian.org is also revealing. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120803080052.GB7609@tal
Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 03:27:40PM +, Camaleón wrote: As per the INSTALL file, have you built libeap.so as instructed? Why is this a Debian problem? Nobody has said so. He is asking for support when compiling a program ;-) Right, which has nothing to do with Debian SUPPORT. There are more appropriate mailing lists for those sort of questions, jeesh! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120804160327.GA12364@tal
Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 08:05:06PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 04:03:27 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 03:27:40PM +, Camaleón wrote: As per the INSTALL file, have you built libeap.so as instructed? Why is this a Debian problem? Nobody has said so. He is asking for support when compiling a program ;-) Right, which has nothing to do with Debian SUPPORT. You have to be kidding, right? Umm, no. Debian is a binary distribution. but: A quick google turns up this: https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2011-October/012503.html Just because a farmer prepares a field with his tractor for planting turnips, that means he should ring the manufacturer to find out how? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120804221833.GA15630@tal
Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:38:29PM -0500, hvw59601 wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:02:12 -0500, hvw59601 wrote: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/ has in it 8 debian kernel source packages that I want to install consecutively to see if bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683768 is present. I want to do the installs with apt-get source. How does one do this? Specifically, what should the sources.list say? Does this help? http://snapshot.debian.org/ Hint: Usage section :-) I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are nothing like where the linux source files are. In that case, your message is best directed to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120804223148.GB15630@tal
Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:09:20AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:31:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:38:29PM -0500, hvw59601 wrote: I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are nothing like where the linux source files are. In that case, your message is best directed to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/ Oh, come on... yet again with this? You're starting to sound boring :-) What? Get off your high horse! :-) This list covers discussion and maintenance of the snapshot.debian.org archive as well as the development of enhancements of this service. Seems entirely appropriate. Unclear/incorrect documentation is a bug. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805124718.GA17886@tal
Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:12:13AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:18:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: A quick google turns up this: https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2011-October/012503.html Glad to see you're returning to the common sense side :-) Huh?, I was indicating how a quick google can more often than not solve, or at least, steer you in the right direction without wasting network resources. Why are you so worried that people might work out how to help themselves? Do you disagree with: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/solving-problems.html in particular: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.common-procedures.html#idp9613688 HAND -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805131058.GB17886@tal
Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:31:07PM +, Camaleón wrote: Yeah, that's the spirit. Thanks for understanding :-) No problem. :-) Now, why did you snip the main part of my post?: Why are you so worried that people might work out how to help themselves? Do you disagree with: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/solving-problems.html in particular: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.common-procedures.html#idp9613688 -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805135351.GA18422@tal
Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:29:10PM +, Camaleón wrote: Sorry, but I don't get what kind of documentation issue do you find here. There's a small Usage section in the front page. Sources and binary files are there, so...? Not me, The OP found an issue, ... so ... why can't he bring it up there? Entirely appropriate, IMNSVHO. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805140619.GB18422@tal
Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 02:32:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:06:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Not me, The OP found an issue, ... so ... why can't he bring it up there? Entirely appropriate, IMNSVHO. But you seemed to dissect the issue and found a documentation problem. I wonder what info is what you're missing (if any). I went as far as having a look (as I may need it myself at some stage), saw the Usage section which you referred to but that was it, IOW I haven't tried it. According to the OP, he did, but it didn't work for him. I noticed there was a debian-snapshot ML there ..., the rest is history. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805150625.GA18690@tal
Re: [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 09:28:13PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: So... I'd really welcome any feedback on the questions who cares about project management collaboration tools, how to reach them, and what might motivate them enough to take a look at what I'm doing? Instead of motivation think inspiration. Maybe people who already need that sort of thing already have it, and don't need to look further. I'm thinking gantt charts, pert charts etc. AIUI, a lot of project management is done using a whiteboard, diary, phone etc. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805170037.GA19240@tal
Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 03:23:04PM +, Camaleón wrote: I don't recall Hugo has said what he tried (exactly) and what was the result. Really? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg00310.html Seems like problem solved? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120805174618.GB19240@tal
Re: [LAU] OnDemand-performance was(OT: klang)
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:34:03AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: every email address in the mail is shown as is, so at least respect the privacy of others and remove email addresses, or much better, If you post to a mailing list, there *is* no privacy. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809122212.GA2687@tal
Re: BD-RE mount problem
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:51:36PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I'm using Memorex BD-RE 2x discs. I've used an LG, ASUS and Pioneer BluRay writer - the first two on the older machine. The ASUS and Pioneer are brand new writers. Any ideas? Have you tried different media? Also a quick google shows that you might get some help on the cdwrite list: http://lists.debian.org/cdwrite/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809141202.GF2687@tal
Re: BD-RE mount problem
[Ccing cdwr...@other.debian.org] Any ideas? On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 03:49:13PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 06/08/12 11:51 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I've been using BD-RE discs for backups on a Debian/Squeeze server for a couple of years now. In the last week or so the backups have been failing. I haven't modified my backup script so I thought about possible hardware issues. - I tried changing the BluRay writer but got the same problem. - I tried new discs but got the same problem. - I tried replacing the PCI-SATA controller that the machine needed for the BluRay writer, but still got the same problem. - the discs do formate correctly when I try dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/sr0 Finally, I tried an entirely different machine with a different model of BluRay writer and I'm still getting the same problem. This new machine has a different architecture (AMD64) and is running Debian/Wheezy. Why am I getting the same problem? I tried a new disc again, and this time formatted it through K3B instead of using dvd+rw-format directly. It appeared to format correctly - and no longer shows as an empty BD-RE disc when I insert it - but still wouldn't mount. All the mount attempts give exactly the same result: # mount /media/dvd mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so The /etc/fstab entry is the same between the two machines: /dev/sr0/media/dvd udf user 0 0 I'm using Memorex BD-RE 2x discs. I've used an LG, ASUS and Pioneer BluRay writer - the first two on the older machine. The ASUS and Pioneer are brand new writers. Any ideas? Further to above, I did a file copy using K3B onto one of the BD-RE discs that won't mount. K3B appeared to recognize that there was a udf file system on the disc. After it finished, it automounted as /media/cdrom0 with fs type iso9660. However, I could also mount it as /media/dvd. Switching to root, I was also able to mount it using mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /media/dvd Running mount shows that it is mounted as a udf file system. However, I can't mount it -rw. It insists that the file system is read-only. Also, I booted my computer from a USB key containing system rescue CD. Again, the mount fails. Here's a sequence I just tried: root@transponder:/home/garydale# mkudffs /dev/sr0 Error opening device: Read-only file system root@transponder:/home/garydale# mount /media/dvd mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so root@transponder:/home/garydale# mount /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so Afterward, I started up k3B and tried tools | format. The format dialog has a pulldown for the media which shows Complete Data BD-RE. It wouldn't do a format - said it didn't need to do one - unless I do a force, which I decided against. I was able to burn a data project, after which the BluRay disc automounts as /media/cdrom0 again. The mount command (no options) shows it as: /dev/sr0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) I can also mount it as /media/dvd, where the mount command shows it mounted as: /dev/sr0 on /media/dvd type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,utf8) Trying to format the disk using dvd+rw-format is now giving me: root@transponder:/home/garydale# dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/sr0 * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by ap...@fy.chalmers.se, version 7.1. * 24.2GB BD media detected. * formatting .:-[ FORMAT UNIT failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN PARAMETER LIST]: Input/output error I get the same if I try to -blank or -format as well. And of course, the device shows as 100% full under df, since it seems to really be an iso9660 formatted disc. Here's the dvd+rw-mediainfo: root@transponder:/home/garydale# dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/sr0 INQUIRY:[PIONEER ][BD-RW BDR-207D][1.10] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 43h, BD-RE Media ID: RITEK/BW1 Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Write Speed #0:2.0x4495=8990KB/s Speed Descriptor#0:00/11826175 R@2.0x4495=8990KB/s W@2.0x4495=8990KB/s READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: complete Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ
Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 06:48:39PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The best thing is to be an anarchist! apt-get install anarchism :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809142205.GH2687@tal
Re: [OT] Intellectual Property Law
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 02:54:01AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 19:47 -0500, John Hasler wrote: I don't think you understand what money is. I'm able to handle money to survive very good, but you're right, I don't understand, let's call it the black box of the way money is handled international. Perhaps, I hope that I don't understand it, in hope that it's not that evil as I guess it is. Unless you're an investment banker: Web Results 1 - 10 of about 984,000 for investment banking corruption. (0.26 seconds) :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809143857.GI2687@tal
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #1981
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 04:48:44PM +, crunchbang.b4d...@gmail.com wrote: Ty Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry So if you send from a mobile you are forced to top post? The reason I ask is that I thought I saw a message from a mobile which was formatted correctly for mailing lists. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809145538.GJ2687@tal
Re: which one is faster?
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 09:00:18PM +0800, lina wrote: I don't know the reliable of the connection between the two servers, I guess it's okay. But from my side, the wireless is not stable. I don't know how to let it stable. I mean, not login every 10~15 minutes. (btw, Is big wind affects the wireless signal, kinda of silly to ask, I prefer the fresh air outside, so move laptop outside) Wind won't affect the signal, but if you are outside you may be in a spot where the signal is weak. Can you see what the signal strength is? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809150547.GK2687@tal
Re: iceweasle saving username and password
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 02:05:58PM +0800, lina wrote: Hi, My question is that how can I let the iceweasle kept the saved password as un-readable? Right now I felt very bad, I can access some database with my user name and password, (it's a universal password and username, which means it's also the one I use for email and many other things, such as wireless access and etc, it set up by administrator). If you know the administrator reasonably well, explain to him/her what has happened, he/she won't be happy, but will at least help in fixing situation, and if the administrator is in the know, then it won't be misconstrued as malicious. One girl she need access the database, and she asked me for help. basically it's harmless. but I don't want to share my password and I don't know how to refuse. so I input my password and username in her firefox and let it remember. Ouch! Bad move. I'd also be worried that you may have violated company policy. Just now I found that iceweasle can show the password I saved. very bad, hope she didn't realize it and read my password. Don't risk it. I don't know how to do in this situations. If its for anything important like online banking etc, change it immediately, so that the one she has is no longer useful. You should have told her to see the administrator, that is his job; granting access etc. Don't give out passwords! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809153702.GL2687@tal
Re: which one is faster?
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:00:12AM +0800, lina wrote: I don't know how to check the signal strength except seeing the icon of the network manager. Sorry, I don't use network manager, but you could check by going inside to test. The reason the transfer speeds could be slow, is because of a flaky connection where it has to do retransmits every so often. Compare speeds of large file transfer, if same inside as outside, then at least you can sit outside and try the other suggestions from this thread. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120809175158.GA5072@tal
Re: package wxmacmolplt broken
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:05:56PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:27:22 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: (please, don't cross-post without warning the users about it) Huh? Since when? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting A crossposted message takes up less server storage space, and creates less network traffic, than if individual messages had been posted to multiple newsgroups. You might be confusing cross posting with multi posting; multi posting is frowned upon. Besides, it is obvious in the headers whether the message is cross posted, the warning is hence redundant, extra typing, and therefore unnecessary. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812134529.GA19516@tal
Re: could not grab your keyboard
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:07:23AM +0800, lina wrote: With time going, still not work, the keyboard. then the screen popped up this message, I looked around, nobody, so there was no worry about eavesdropping. So I just shutdown the laptop and came back inside. :), the eavesdropping message probably refers to MITM (man in the middle) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack Google the exact message, it might lead you to the appllication which sprouts it. I would mention it to your administrator, he/she would probably want to know. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812140118.GB19516@tal
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 08:30:55PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: For professional artists (music and drawing) Linux breaks the workflow Linux hasn't anything todo with this! GIMP is available for Windows as well. http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-understanding-ui-changes -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812141935.GC19516@tal
Re: [OT] Cross-posting (was: package wxmacmolplt broken)
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 05:40:14PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Some days ago I cross-posted, apologized and warned! It's anyway not the best idea to do so. Excepted of some announcements cross-posting isn't a good idea, sometimes it's just less work for the person who does the post, but it e.g. very often leads to dead threads etc.. Cross posting is way better than multi-posting though. The reasons should be obvious, and if you have ever tried to have a conversation between two or more people in different rooms you will have an understanding of what I mean. Bring them all into the one room, and problem solved. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812162806.GA20343@tal
Re: [OT] Cross-posting (was: package wxmacmolplt broken)
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 03:27:25PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:45:29 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Besides, it is obvious in the headers whether the message is cross posted, the warning is hence redundant, extra typing, and therefore unnecessary. Not that obvious! Not all of us use the same kind of readers nor have the same configuration settings nor have that information expanded in front of our eyes. All I can suggest is that you get a better MUA. I mean what MUA doesn't show you (at least) the CC header? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812163140.GB20343@tal
Re: could not grab your keyboard
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:52:11PM +0800, lina wrote: I don't know how to examine it, will wireshark be helpful in examing here? It use RDP protocol, with username and password. If you know enough to know how to use it and interpret the results, then sure, why not? Mmmm, what does your network/system administrator get paid for again? :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812163518.GC20343@tal
Re: strange behavior after reboot, iceweasel locking everything up
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:45:03PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
Yesterday I had to reboot my machine.
Cleaning house, I had dislodged the plug for a power strip that powered
the computer, monitor, and printer.
Now, I am seeing very odd behavior.
Iceweasel hangs forever on some of the simplest tasks, such as loading a
static html page.
Not only that, but when it does so, other tasks on my machine are held
up. For instance, if I have iceweasel loading a page on my first
workspace, and try to load a message in mutt on another, mutt waits for
iceweasel to finish what it's doing before proceeding, which was not
previously the case.
I find this very, very odd.
I've suffered the same problem, very annoying. A ps indicates its
plugin-container, have to wait for ages to get mouse response so I can
quit iceweasel.
It seems to happen sometimes If I leave iceweasel open for a long time.
I have installed noscript (highly recommended!) but am not sure if it is
a script causing it. Once there was a message about a script being busy,
which tied up iceweasel and that was before I installed noscript. There
was a dialog box indicating this.
For instance, the machine will be using 2% of CPU and 4% of ram, but be
completely dormant until iceweasel succeeds in downloading a page.
This machine is a 2.8ghz x 4core AMD APU with 16gb of ram, too, so I'm
not exactly lacking in resources.
Mmmm, is this from ps?
The only anomalies I have noted in dmesg, etc., are that some sectors of
my hdd are not reading correctly, or something.
A file system check forced on a second reboot yesterday failed, which is
disconcerting, but I'm not certain what to make of that.
eeek! Grab any data you need, quick.
dmesg | tail gives me
[79477.080607] ata6.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT
[79477.080621] ata6.00: cmd 25/00:08:9d:23:9f/00:00:6c:00:00/e0 tag 0
dma 4096 in
[79477.080624] res 51/40:00:9d:23:9f/40:00:6c:00:00/00 Emask
0x9 (media error)
[79477.080631] ata6.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
[79477.080635] ata6.00: error: { UNC }
[79477.196994] ata6.00: configured for UDMA/33
[78506.185310] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled sense code
[78506.185315] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK
driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
[78506.185322] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Sense Key : Medium Error [current]
[descriptor]
[78506.185331] Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):
[78506.185335] 72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00
[78506.185351] 6c 9f 23 9d
[78506.185358] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error -
auto reallocate failed
[78506.185368] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 6c 9f 23 9d 00 00
08 00
[78506.185378] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 1822368669
[78506.185398] ata6: EH complete
I don't know what to make of that.
Hard disk *could* be on way out. Get a testdisk, or use smartctl, but
I'd treat it as though its going to fail any minute and get any crucial
data off it now!
But just a heads up about iceweasel problems. So not necessarily related
to hdd errors.
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Re: package wxmacmolplt broken
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 02:48:44PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Huh? Since when? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting A crossposted message takes up less server storage space, and creates less network traffic, than if individual messages had been posted to multiple newsgroups. Of course that applies to usenet newsgroups but does not apply to mailing lists such as debian-user. Mailing lists will generate a new message with the same message-id for every message regardless of whether it is crossposted to several mailing lists or not. Eeek! of course, humble apologies. But crossposting is still preferable to multi posting as far as ML are concerned, would you agree? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120813132128.GC24618@tal
Re: xml editor ?
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 08:35:58PM +0200, Slavko wrote: I never used any XML editor (i don't need it yet), then sorry, that i cannot share my experiences. But i don't forget yet, how confused was i when some one recommend me to use some editor and here are a lot of editors! Which to use??? Why not just use vim? It has syntax highlighting for xml files, what more do you need? What features does an xml editor offer that vim doesn't? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120814221255.GA30871@tal
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:32:10 +0200, maderios wrote: This new Gimp's behaviour is not a bug but a (weird) developper's choice Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think they're wrong or simply badly put. That's when you can open a wishlist bug report to politely ask for a review of the default settings. In message http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg00713.html I posted this link: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/gimp-2.8-understanding-ui-changes That explains the changes fairly well. Also this is makes an interesting point: (regarding Linux and choice) http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012081404.GB30871@tal
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 02:50:37PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. Not sure if things are better now, but there was a time when some packages were only available in 32bit versions. So running a 64bit kernel to cater for the bigger address space and a 32bit userland can sometimes be the better option. YMMV -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120816000812.GB6970@tal
Re: How to install SchoolTool 2.0 on Debian?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:06:06AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: Edited it to correspond the newest version of Ubuntu: echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/$ppa_name/ubuntu precise main [snip] ^^ cough, cough. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120818104700.GA17742@tal
Re: having a problem removing a package
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 08:43:40PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I'm having trouble installing/removing a program bandwidthd. It's now in a weird state of not being installed or being able to remove. i've tried to upgrade to get it installed, and I get this; sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be upgraded: bandwidthd 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. Ok, first I'd do an apt-get clean Then I'd do an apt-get update Then I'd do an apt-get upgrade again just to see if the errors were still there. If so, I'd probably do an apt-get dist-upgrade just to see what it wanted to do. You could use the -s switch just to simulate the actions. Depending if it was going to correct itself or dig a deeper hole ... Then I'd either use one of the force options of dpkg, and try and purge the existing package, or edit the problem script and put exit 0 at the beginning of the script and try again. Preparing to replace bandwidthd 2.0.1 (using .../bandwidthd_2.0.1+cvs20090917-4.1_i386.deb) ... /etc/init.d/bandwidthd: 19: Syntax error: ( unexpected invoke-rc.d: initscript bandwidthd, action stop failed. dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... /etc/init.d/bandwidthd: 19: Syntax error: ( unexpected invoke-rc.d: initscript bandwidthd, action stop failed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bandwidthd_2.0.1+cvs20090917-4.1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 configured to not write apport reports insserv: warning: script 'K01bitmeterweb' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'K01bitmeter' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'K01bandwidthd' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'bandwidthd' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'bitmeter' missing LSB tags and overrides insserv: warning: script 'bitmeterweb' missing LSB tags and overrides /etc/init.d/bandwidthd: 19: Syntax error: ( unexpected invoke-rc.d: initscript bandwidthd, action start failed. dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/bandwidthd_2.0.1+cvs20090917-4.1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Has a google search given any help here? Have you checked the BTS? How can I get this program uninstalled? See above regarding forcing dpkg or editing the problem script, either way I'd probably drop the maintainer a note, depending if there was no fix from Google, or the BTS. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120819012838.GA20471@tal
Re: having a problem removing a package
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:10:46PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 19 aug 12, 13:28:38, Chris Bannister wrote: Ok, first I'd do an apt-get clean Why would you delete the downloaded packages cache because a package fails to remove/purge? When I saw this: dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... /etc/init.d/bandwidthd: 19: Syntax error: ( unexpected invoke-rc.d: initscript bandwidthd, action stop failed. dpkg: error processing I thought just to be on the safe side it might be a good idea to clean out any old cruft. And considering everything seemed to be uptodate except for 2 packages I presumed there would be no harm done. Why keep old ones around anyway? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120819111628.GA22364@tal
package cache (was ... Re: having a problem removing a package)
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 08:04:39PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 19 aug 12, 23:16:28, Chris Bannister wrote: When I saw this: dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... /etc/init.d/bandwidthd: 19: Syntax error: ( unexpected invoke-rc.d: initscript bandwidthd, action stop failed. dpkg: error processing I thought just to be on the safe side it might be a good idea to clean out any old cruft. And considering everything seemed to be uptodate except for 2 packages I presumed there would be no harm done. As far as I know apt (and dpkg?) have rigorous integrity checks for the debs. I also vaguely remember that quite a while a go, (couple of years or so?), you might remember Andrei, that a bit of advice that was offered when someone had trouble installing a package was to clean out the cache, and I don't think it was because of lack of disk space. I haven't heard of any problems since though, and that wasn't in my mind when I suggested the above. It may have been due to the package version interacting, but I think an archive search would be too time consuming. e.g. why was the tilde (~) character introduced into the version string ... -- to ensure one package is newer/older than another? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820052433.GA26218@tal
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:42:28PM +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: be ironed out but as far as I am concerned, skype works very well with all the dependencies under my debian 32/64bits hybrid. All you need to do is adding [arch=amd64,i386] between deb and your mirror URL in /etc/apt/source.list Is that documented anywhere, with examples? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820233659.GA29451@tal
Re: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 07:48:42AM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, r...@aarden.us wrote: I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. Because it's /sbin/fdisk and /sbin isn't in $PATH. Interesting that there has been a long discussion about this very thing: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1 - http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/08/threads.html#00130 -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820234941.GB29451@tal
Re: [OT] Is it possible to hide the ip in ssh connection
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 01:39:42PM +0800, lina wrote: I felt I made some mistakes before, like put the public keys from those servers into my own laptop, just for the convinence of connection. I am on my way correcting my mistakes. Public keys are meant to be public, its the secret/private key(s) you should be protecting. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120822015440.GA15009@tal
Re: Problems with printing/scanning on Squeeze on a Lexmark aio
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 08:42:16AM +0100, Lisi wrote: Hello, all! This is a cross-post. I posted to the Trinity list several days ago. It In that case its more correctly referred as a multipost. A crosspost is when you cc/to more than one list/group simultaneously. Just to be picky. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120822020131.GB15009@tal
Re: gnome-session charsh
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: I suggest that in Debian mirrors, gnome is so arranged that launching it be an optional. In computational chemistry/biochemistry, particularly with amd64, most work is at the linux prompt. Now, with It would be better not to install gnome at all then. Just install a basic window manager, and open an xterm as needed. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120825052552.GB29162@tal
Re: gnome-session charsh
[Please don't top post on this ML, and trim unnecessary content] On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 09:53:54AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: I am bound to gnome for the program gchempaint. In my experience, it is the only program, freely available as gnu, that allows drawing chemical structures as required by chemical journals. So why not just install gchempaint on its own, or is it tied so much into gnome that it is more trouble than its worth? If that is the case, what about loose coupling and strong cohesion principle? :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120825131437.GD30989@tal
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:44:18AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:52:06 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? Well, you can stil install a 32-bits guest OS but for 64-bits you need a VT-x enabled micro, yes. OK, now a lovely little E8400 power my machine which is VT-x and VT-d capable. http://ark.intel.com/products/33910/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E8400-%286M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB%29 This one looks better, your system will thank (more cache, fsb speed yet still the same low TDP) :-) You have been reported to the . (American Association for the Abuse of Acronyms) :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120825132004.GE30989@tal
Re: Standard for soft return by automatic word and line wrap
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 08:31:06PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I used gvim, but kate and gedit and even leafpad and others are more comfortable. IIRC common shortcuts didn't work with gvim, the only difference to vi(m) was, that I didn't need to know all the commands by heart. The trick to using vi(m) etc, is not to try and learn everything by heart, just start using it and it gradually becomes second nature. Start with vimtutor, and read through the documentation, but don't try and learn it by heart or you will soon be overwhelmed and confused. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120826153552.GD2695@tal
Re: pulseaudio configuration question
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:45:12PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: By way of update, typing: pulseaudio --cleanup-shm cr pulseaudio --start cr and got no errors from pulseaudio this time. Unfortunately though both mplayer and vlc can connect to streams neither provides any sound output yet. sound card is an nvidia CK804 and pulse appears to have control of it from aplay -L output. Rather than fight with it, I just purge it and related pulseaudio-x11. After that everything seems to work OK. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120827020819.GF2695@tal
Re: pulseaudio configuration question
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 07:18:04PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day, Jude. The Holy Father is neither jude jdash...@shellworld.net Could You please stop This Name in vain?! Could You please stop criticising people's signatures?! What people put in their signature is their own business! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120827061336.GF7818@tal
Re: Standard for soft return by automatic word and line wrap
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 01:22:09PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 03:35:52AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 08:31:06PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I used gvim, but kate and gedit and even leafpad and others are more comfortable. IIRC common shortcuts didn't work with gvim, the only difference to vi(m) was, that I didn't need to know all the commands by heart. The trick to using vi(m) etc, is not to try and learn everything by heart, just start using it and it gradually becomes second nature. Start with vimtutor, and read through the documentation, but don't try and learn it by heart or you will soon be overwhelmed and confused. :) Or even have a go at http://vim-adventures.com/ Ha! you must be doran. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120831205331.GB12794@tal
Re: How upstart-job is performing in debian system ?
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 02:48:11PM +, Camaleón wrote: With my admin's hat on, I prefer the old and well-know sysvinit because I don't need anything special for the booting process but I understand that people with specific requirements (or those called early adopters) are awaiting for a change. If you had a maintainer's hat to put on, then you most likely would have a different opinion. I'm not a maintainer, but from what I've read and AFAIU, its not an admin issue. There are well known problems with the sysvinit system where copious amounts of sticky plaster (band aid?) code is needed to help deal with them. So it is not just people with specific requirements or early adopters which see the need for a better more robust system. systemd and upstart go a long way in fixing the problems, but in there own way introduce some undersirable features. Systemd is a bit too monolithic and hence doesn't fit into the Unix philosophy. Upstart may be a replacement: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/09/msg3.html (a lot of things can change in three years, though) There are also some people looking at openrc: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/openrc/ as a possible replacement, There is file-rc, but AIUI, it too, has some undesirable aspects. A google search should/will/maybe be a bit more enlightening. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120831221220.GC12794@tal
Re: Query about failure of Debian 6 64 bit to swap properly
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:07:12PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 29 August 2012 21:15:01 Claudius Hubig wrote: A problem that I (appear to) have found, is that the malware named javascript appears to cause havoc in continually increasing usage of RAM. Javascript is a programming language, not a malware. He knows that. He is expressing his opinion of Javascript. Or he might be confusing java with javascript (LOL, while ducking) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120831222049.GG12794@tal
Re: 200% OT: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 04:19:15PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:50:02 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing Exactly Ralf..I'm always wearing a towel instead of my sarong that often goes missing. You see it's true, a man who knows where his towel is, is never exposed. The trouble with towels are that they get wetter as they dry. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120901160038.GA18296@tal
Re: Re: upgrading to wheezy: punctual list of issues
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:59:00PM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: songbird wrote: does update-grub as root accomplish anything? check the release notes (in progress) at: http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes for your architecture. songbird Yep! Thanks! Now I got a very nice kernel panic, but booted 3.2! It would be good to find out why. I will reinstall from scratch. There is no point in fighting against a kernel panic. Please don't. The reason you are running wheezy (aka testing) is to test it for the next stable release (well that is supposed to be the reason to run testing), so if you find any problems it is a good idea to sort it out, whether it is a documentation problem for an issue to be aware of when upgrading, or a latent bug you have discovered. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120901161524.GB18296@tal
Re: xsesssion-errors
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 09:54:32AM +0200, lee wrote: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca writes: I keep seeing references to NVidia in my .xsesssion-errors file. I (firefox:2707): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The results of running '# apt-file search libvdpau_nvidia.so' would indicate that you may need to install the nvidia-vdpau-driver package :) Why, AFAIR, he has not been using nvidia for a while. I'd do a locate on vdpau, he might have nvidia-vdpau-driver installed? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120901164503.GC18296@tal
Re: copying data from a partition with badblocks
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:50:09PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: developing bad blocks. They are usually at room temperature (no air conditioning), partitioned via cfdisk + mke2fs. I think room temperature is a vague term considering the temperature range which occurs in each country. The specifications of a device normally give the operating range. Personally, I believe that it is sudden changes in temperature which is more problematic. So if someone says room temperature to me: I'm assuming 18 degrees C to around 25 degrees C. Of course, this is not always the actual temperature. For example, in the Summer It can reach lower 30's (unusual in this neck of the woods, but occassionally happens) whereas in the Winter it only drops to around -5 at the extreme, although this is only occassionally as well. My guess is that in hot countries, where, during the day the temperatures can be reasonably unbearable, and then at night where the temperatures can be a bit chilly will be more problematic than in countries where the temperatures don't vary as much. So even if the operating temperature is well within the specifications, the amount of variation may be a factor. The term controlled environment says to me, that it is controlled as far as the equipment is concerned, not humans. I am not too sure what the ideal temperature for a hard drive to operate at but I remember that in an unmanned electronic telephone exchange it was rather uncomfortable for humans, and there was a switch on the wall which you could press which would alter the humidity (and temperature?) so as to be a bit more healthy for humans. I think a better term would be office environment for where it is controlled for human comfort. Also I forgot to mention that humidity could be a major factor on hard drive reliability and MTBF. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903061819.GC25171@tal
Re: Alsa-Base breaks Linux-Sound-Base
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:06:30PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:02 +0200 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I experienced no issues with the dist-upgrade. In my troubles with that I'm sure they installed alsa-base with everything muted. I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason why everything was muted was so that there were no unpleasant surprises, i.e. you had to actually explicitly unmute it and therefore set the volume control to your own choosing. Consider the situation where everything was not muted, then what volume setting would be appropriate? Too high -- ears blasted, bugreports! Too low -- hard to hear, bugreports! Therefore, the best option, to leave it muted, was taken in my view. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903081028.GD25171@tal
Re: need kernel update for lenny ..
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:54:32PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 29.08.2012 17:45, Lisi wrote: but I don't know what happened to Lenny backports when Lenny was archived. They were archived too. http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian-backports/ has folder dists, which seems to contain lenny-backports. To use it, add the following to your sources.list: ``` deb http://http.debian.net/debian-archive/debian-backports/ stable-backports main contrib non-free No! deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main contrib non-free deb-src entry unnecessary unless you are in the unusual position of needing source packages. [snip 34 lines, includes ridiculous signature] -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903083746.GE25171@tal
Re: need kernel update for lenny ..
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:24:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:08:58 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 29/08/12 17:28, Camaleón wrote: It does not matter that Lenny is out of support (formerly codenamed oldstable) because even the current stable release (Squeeze) neither get kernel upgrades (for kernel upgrades I mean going from 2.6.26 to 2.6.32 or 3.x branch, for instance). Kernel upgrades in Debian only happen in testing (until becomes frozen) and sid. Unless there's an upgrade to fix a security issue, I believe? Sure, that's what I said in an earlier post¹ ;-) LOL, come on ... nice try though. Hey! we all make misteaks But still security updates for the kernel keep the same branch (2.6.32), they can't jump so far because of compatibility (ABI) issues. Huh? For a start, the fix is backported so that only the problematic code is corrected. Not all kernels are vulnerable to the same security fault, hence a vulnerability in a 3.x kernel doesn't mean that it affects kernels in the 2.6.26 - 2.6.32 range. ¹http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg01890.html No mention about security support in that post either ..., or was it in another thread? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903085816.GF25171@tal
Re: need kernel update for lenny ..
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 06:49:31PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 29 August 2012 18:08:58 Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 29/08/12 17:28, Camaleón wrote: It does not matter that Lenny is out of support (formerly codenamed oldstable) because even the current stable release (Squeeze) neither get kernel upgrades (for kernel upgrades I mean going from 2.6.26 to 2.6.32 or 3.x branch, for instance). Kernel upgrades in Debian only happen in testing (until becomes frozen) and sid. Unless there's an upgrade to fix a security issue, I believe? Not for Lenny. Lenny will get nothing new, not even security updates, now that it has been archived. Yes, correct, but Squeeze will, that was Tony's point. oldstable is supported for about a year, to give people time to plan migration. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903090312.GG25171@tal
Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 07:31:02PM +0200, lee wrote: packages from these when needed? And if I removed Debian multimedia, I would miss a lot of packages. You might be suprised. The Debian Multimedia team is constantly improving Debian's multimedia support. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903115826.GI25171@tal
Re: xsesssion-errors
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 01:19:49PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On 01/09/12 12:45 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 09:54:32AM +0200, lee wrote: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca writes: I keep seeing references to NVidia in my .xsesssion-errors file. I (firefox:2707): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The results of running '# apt-file search libvdpau_nvidia.so' would indicate that you may need to install the nvidia-vdpau-driver package :) Why, AFAIR, he has not been using nvidia for a while. I'd do a locate on vdpau, he might have nvidia-vdpau-driver installed? The only reference I find is to libvdpau1which is being kept installed by mplayer. So I removed both..(I use VLC but not mplayer) and we'll see what happens. But it seems other stuff is also looking for the library...time will tell :) What stuff? Ahh! I also see the messages on exiting iceweasel, but I _like_ mplayer Mmmm, interesting: tal% ls -alh .xsession-errors -rw--- 1 chrisb chrisb 76K Sep 3 21:16 .xsession-errors tal% less .xsession-errors | grep VDPAU tal% tal% less .xsession-errors | grep nvidia tal% root@tal:/home/chrisb/.rawdog# locate vdpau /etc/vdpau_wrapper.cfg /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libvdpau.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libvdpau.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/vdpau /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/vdpau/libvdpau_trace.so.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/vdpau/libvdpau_trace.so.1.0.0 /usr/share/doc/libvdpau1 /usr/share/doc/libvdpau1/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/libvdpau1/copyright /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.shlibs /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvdpau1:i386.symbols At least there is a bug open: see chameleon's post in this thread. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903124311.GQ25171@tal
Re: xsesssion-errors
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 03:07:09PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Camaleón wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Camaleón wrote: But it seems the problem remains (read comment #45) so dunno why it was archived with apparently no additional clues on the current status: This was the message that closed it. It was sent to 617940-done and so the bug was marked as closed. The other bug was forcibly merged with this one and so it was closed too. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617940#26 Yes, but regardless the bug status (closed or archived) the issue persists as reported later: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=33;bug=617940 Or is that I am wrongly reading the notfixed 617940 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 tag? What I see by looking now is: * 617940 is/was assigned to the libvdpau1 package * notfixed 617940 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 removes any indication that version 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 was fixed. * libvdpau1 never had any version 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 in the archive according to http://packages.qa.debian.org/libv/libvdpau.html and therefore marking it as not fixed does not mark any existing version as buggy. The version number is just completely bogus. I think 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 was meant to apply to mplayer not libvdpau1 and therefore the intended bug maintenance actions did not occur as intended. The bug remained closed and was archived according to the standard schedule for closed bugs. Bob So what now? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903125904.GR25171@tal
Re: Why is Nautilus using 38% CPU?
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 09:29:32PM +0200, lee wrote: Mark Allums m...@allums.com writes: I am going to temporarily retreat to another window manager and desktop for a while, and see if this bug gets fixed. Fvwm-crystal is awesome. Huh? Compare apt-cache show fvwm-crystal with apt-cache show awesome They are completely different. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903131740.GS25171@tal
Re: xsesssion-errors
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 12:59:04AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: What I see by looking now is: * 617940 is/was assigned to the libvdpau1 package * notfixed 617940 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 removes any indication that version 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 was fixed. * libvdpau1 never had any version 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 in the archive according to http://packages.qa.debian.org/libv/libvdpau.html and therefore marking it as not fixed does not mark any existing version as buggy. The version number is just completely bogus. I think 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-2 was meant to apply to mplayer not libvdpau1 and therefore the intended bug maintenance actions did not occur as intended. The bug remained closed and was archived according to the standard schedule for closed bugs. Bob So what now? Ahh!, so I thought: The following message to 617940-o...@bugs.debian.org was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'Unknown or archived bug' :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903132940.GA27546@tal
Re: xsesssion-errors
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 12:43:11AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: At least there is a bug open: see chameleon's post in this thread. Correction was open, now closed and archived. :( -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903133152.GB27546@tal
