maven-core tests fail when invoked via ant.

2011-06-19 Thread Kasun Gajasinghe
Hi,
We are in the process of integrating Maven in to Gentoo. Currently, we are
trying to bootstrap maven. Our strategy is to integrate each and every
sub-project of Maven-2.2.1 [1] separately. So, we first transformed these to
an ant projects by generating the build.xml via `mvn ant:ant`. I know that
Maven provides a build.xml in the parent, but we have to integrate each and
every project separately. We will be moving to 3.x after 2.x is complete. We
chose 2.x as it's much stable, and is much popular currently.

So far, we have successfully integrated project up-to maven-core in the
build order. But, we are encountering an issue in maven-core. When invoked
via mvn (mvn install), it passes the tests successfully (obviously!). But
when I invoke the project via ant, a test fails with an ERROR.

I'm sending this to the dev group thinking this error is probably obvious to
you all.

=
test:
[mkdir] Created dir:
/gentoo-sources/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core-2.2.1/target/test-reports
[junit] Running org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest
[junit] Testsuite: org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest
[junit] Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Time elapsed: 2.361 sec
[junit] Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Time elapsed: 2.361 sec
[junit]
[junit] Testcase: testSelectHttpWagonFromDefault took 0.358 sec
[junit] Caused an ERROR
[junit] Error starting container
[junit] org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusContainerException: Error starting
container
[junit] at
org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.start(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:795)
[junit] at
org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusTestCase.setUp(PlexusTestCase.java:121)
[junit] at
org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest.setUp(WagonSelectorTest.java:76)
[junit] Caused by:
org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.exception.ComponentRepositoryException:
Component descriptor role:
'org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.SecDispatcher',
implementation:
'org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.DefaultSecDispatcher', role
hint: 'maven' has a hint, but there are other implementations that don't
[junit] at
org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.DefaultComponentRepository.addComponentDescriptor(DefaultComponentRepository.java:184)
[junit] at
org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.addComponentDescriptor(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:515)
[junit] at
org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.discoverComponents(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:738)
[junit] at
org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.start(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:779)
[junit]

BUILD FAILED
/gentoo-sources/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core-2.2.1/maven-build.xml:206:
Test org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest failed

=

Any clues on getting rid of this error? I'm thinking whether the generated
build.xml has some issue. Much appreciate your help!

The maven-build.xml is at [2]. The full ant output of the test failure is at
[3]. I'm using maven-ant-plugin-2.3 with maven-2.2.1. The test fails with
both ant 1.7.1 and 1.8.1. Please do let me know if any other information is
needed.

[1]
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core/
[2] http://pastebin.com/9eWM0xjN
[3] http://pastebin.com/vRC6qVa8

Thanks,
--Kasun

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Struberg
a very good idea

+1

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: The JIRA chocolate box
 To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org
 Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 3:05 AM
 I am only proposing this for MNG at
 this point.
 
 On Jun 18, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
 wrote:
 
  My guess is a reference to Forrest Gump - you never
 know what you are going to get.
 
  Ralph
 
  On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Martin Gainty wrote:
 
 
  agreed
  although scanning the Surefire JIRA i did notice
 some of jasons original jiras were'nt addressed for upwards
 of 3-4 years (by Brett Porter)
 
  I havent heard of JIRA chocolate box..maybe an
 implementation of a Finite State Machine or perhaps this is
 a non sequitir?
  Bedankt,
  Martin
  __
 
  Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:30:04 -0400
  Subject: The JIRA chocolate box
  From: bimargul...@gmail.com
  To: dev@maven.apache.org
 
  I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have
 a variety of very old
  JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have
 a self-contained test
  case that would can be downloaded, run, and
 converted to an
  integration test, etc.
 
  What's the policy? My temptation would be to
 comment on them asking if
  the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5
 years later), and, if so,
  can they come up with a repeatable test case,
 and if not close as not
  a real bug.
 
  I don't mind in some cases doing work to build
 a test case, but to go
  to all this trouble for a bug that was opened
 about maven 2.0.x, where
  it may not be that easy to reconstruct the
 critical components of the
  problem, seems a dubious use of time.
 
 
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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Olivier Lamy
Nice idea +1.

BTW asking a test case is not very easy.
As most of the time issues happen on corpo/private *complex* project.
So extracting a test case can be hard.

2011/6/19 Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com:
 If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
 an email like the following to the user list.

 --snip--

 Dear Maven Users,

 Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
 (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
 issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
 problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
 self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
 to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
 We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're going
 to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
 return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar it
 up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
 link.

 To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
 backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
 If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.

 We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
 long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
 be more responsive in the future.

 --snip--


 On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed if the
 2nd weeks was too short

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
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 On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 +50

 I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no response

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

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Re: Get thee to the Core...

2011-06-19 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
I opened MNG-5119 to track this. We can use the Wiki too [2], if useful at any 
time.
I already did some minor improvements and published 3.0.4-SNAPSHOT site [3] 
(sync pending) to see the actual state, to be compared with 3.0.3 [4]

I'm starting to test ideas on shared components, since they are the other 
place where components (not plugins) need documentation improvement

Regards,

Hervé

[1] http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5119

[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Proposals

[3] http://maven.apache.org/ref/3.0.4-SNAPSHOT/

[4] http://maven.apache.org/ref/3.0.3/

Le samedi 18 juin 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit :
 Returning to the very start of this thread:
 
 Now that I seem to have caught up with my current box of itches on
 plugins for the moment, I'd be more than happy to join this parade.
 Could some more experience committer grab a defect JIRA that has a
 some value to it, throw it up here on the list, and shout 'pull'?
 
 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr 
wrote:
  While we have a good standard for plugin site organization [1] that was
  debated a few years ago to improve Maven documentation, we have nothing
  for components. And the actual state is not good: see Maven core, where
  even simplest description of every component is not done but inherited
  from parent...
  
  I think we could define something for components like plugins, relatively
  easy to follow and definitely useful as a starting point.
  I have a few ideas:
  - a site descriptor with links to javadoc and jxr (since code is the most
  important thing expected from components), and a FAQ
  - an introduction with a list of component interfaces and implementations
  provided (I have no precise idea on the form)
  
  Any other idea?
  
  I'll try to implement some ideas on Maven core for the next version:
  we'll write a guide later with practices found.
  
  Regards,
  
  Hervé
  
  [1]
  http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-plugin-documentation.ht
  ml
  
  Le vendredi 10 juin 2011, Evgeny Mandrikov a écrit :
  HI all,
  Just my 2 cents :
  
  Main problem with jumping into Maven core development is understanding
  of internal architecture and core parts. Also this affects development
  of plugins. Thus IMO improving this can definitely animate Maven
  ecosystem (Core, Core Plugins, Mojo, ...) in general.
  
  Another point is that improving core without visible user features
  doesn't bring a lot of value. But such things (like slf4j, @Inject)
  also interesting as a paralel process together with new features.
  
  On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 20:21, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org wrote:
   CC'ing dev@: I hope the PMC doesn't mind.
   
   We've been spending some time on-and-off talking about how we can open
   up development in the Maven core, and see if we can attract some
   fresh minds and ideas. I'd like to copy a list of some things we've
   been talking about, and open it up to anyone here on the dev list who
   has an opinion.
   
   This list is not meant to be comprehensive, that's the point! I (and
   others) would like to start the conversation about what we need to do
   to get more of the community involved in developing the core of
   Maven.
   
   If you're interested, please read on, and give us your thoughts!
   
   ---
   
   On 6/8/11 8:18 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
   List of suggestions to improve hacking on the core
   
   * Move to a more sustainable architecture (Stephens started this with
   plexus-utils)
   
* Upgrading Wagon (Mark)
   
   
* Open up access to the community somehow (suggested by Kristian)
   
   
* Draw in more developers to core (suggested by John)
   
   
* Component annotations via more standard notations (suggested by
   John)
   
   
* do stuff that is interesting to others (see the reaction to the
   
   mixin stuff I started) (suggested by Brett)
   
* apply patches from people that genuinely can help (suggested by
   Brett)
   
   John also suggested
   
- the Maven App Engine stuff I've been working on. which allows
   people
   
   to cobble together Maven-based apps, and play around with the
   different internal services / subsystems of Maven
   
   this is under:
   
   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/mae
   
   if anyone is interested...
   
- blogs explaining the way to do various tasks inside the core...how
   
   different subsystems work, or something
   
   see below...
   
- putting together some sort of call for people to come help with
   
   specific new features in the core, like versionless parents, multiple
   POM syntaxes, etc...
   
   I think this thread is going to be the call...or at least, the first
   of many such calls.
   
   Here I think etc needs to be expanded :)
   
   Please, that's the point of the conversation...expand it!
   
p.s. I really like the idea of versionless parents that would save
   
   some pain I'm 

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
 To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
 Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
 
 Hi,
 
 We solved 3 issues:

Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

Gav...

+-0 non-binding


 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375
 
 
 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
 SCmode=hide
 
 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/
 
 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
 
 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
 Vote open for 72 hours.
 
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RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being
resolved.

+1 binding 

Given the amount of *work* staging a release is, I hardly doubt anyone
does a release they don't think is worth it.

Kristian


sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
  To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
  Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
  
  Hi,
  
  We solved 3 issues:
 
 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?
 
 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.
 
 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.
 
 Gav...
 
 +-0 non-binding
 
 
  
  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375
  
  
  There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
  http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
  project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
  SCmode=hide
  
  Staging repo:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/
  
  Staging site:
  http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
  
  Guide to testing staged releases:
  http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
  
  Vote open for 72 hours.
  
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  [ ] +0
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Re: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
don't knock somebody who is taking the time and effort to actually run a
release.

any improvement is an improvement... you could quibble that maybe it should
have been a 2.5.1 and not a 2.6 but it is down to the person who steps up to
make the release.

speaking with my pmc hat on, any improvement merrits a release... the
decision as to whether to take that effort is down to the individual
committer who steps up. it may be that benson needs the release in another
project, so what you see as trivial may be a blocker to somebody else
(personally in those cases I usually add a ref to the project needing the
fast release, but there is no requirement to have such a ref).

lets keep things positive, and benson, keep up the hard work

I'll review the release when at a computer where I can test it

- Stephen

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On 19 Jun 2011 09:35, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
 To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
 Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

 Hi,

 We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding



 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375


 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
 SCmode=hide

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/

 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -1

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2011-06-19 00:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

This is one of the major obstacles we have at the Maven project. The
sheer amount of old and sometimes really old issues in JIRA. For the
last couple of years I've pinged reporters of new issues straight away
for test cases, if none was attached to a new issue. But as you say
there are lots of old ones that are practically impossible to resolve
without some kind of test case.

Maybe we should plan a JIRA cleanup day? Let's find a date where some of
us on the dev team can work together to clean up old issues. We announce
that together with your proposed letter to the users list as well.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

I've done this kind of thing for plugins in the past. For those I have
opted to close the issue as Incomplete, because it lacks a
reproducible test case.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

Agreed.

 
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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
This is a great idea.
Some minor comments inline.


On 2011-06-19 04:22, Benson Margulies wrote:
 If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
 an email like the following to the user list.
 
 --snip--
 
 Dear Maven Users,
 
 Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
 (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
 issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
 problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
 self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
 to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
 We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're going
 to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
 return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar it
 up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
 link.

Over the years I've sometimes had problems reading tar files attached to
JIRA from users on my Windows machine, even though I have the proper
tools for it. I think ZIP of JAR files are generally more portable than
TAR files.

To be able to keep our stuff in one place, I prefer attached compressed
archives in JIRA over something pushed to GitHub. What happens if
someone, after a couple of years, wants to download the test case and
github no longer exists.

 To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
 backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
 If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
 
 We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
 long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
 be more responsive in the future.

Excellent stuff!

 --snip--
 
 
 On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed if the
 2nd weeks was too short

 - Stephen

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 On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 +50

 I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no response

 - Stephen

 ---
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 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread sebb
On 19 June 2011 11:52, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 On 2011-06-19 00:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

 This is one of the major obstacles we have at the Maven project. The
 sheer amount of old and sometimes really old issues in JIRA. For the
 last couple of years I've pinged reporters of new issues straight away
 for test cases, if none was attached to a new issue. But as you say
 there are lots of old ones that are practically impossible to resolve
 without some kind of test case.

 Maybe we should plan a JIRA cleanup day? Let's find a date where some of
 us on the dev team can work together to clean up old issues. We announce
 that together with your proposed letter to the users list as well.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

 I've done this kind of thing for plugins in the past. For those I have
 opted to close the issue as Incomplete, because it lacks a
 reproducible test case.

+1

This will make it easier to find later if necessary.

I think it's vital that the resolution distinguish such cases from
fixed bugs and non-bugs.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

 Agreed.


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Re: svn commit: r1137235 - /maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Hmm, I not quite sure what happened here. Benson?

On 2011-06-18 22:00, bimargul...@apache.org wrote:
 Author: bimargulies
 Date: Sat Jun 18 20:00:55 2011
 New Revision: 1137235
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1137235view=rev
 Log:
 [maven-release-plugin] rollback the release of maven-changes-plugin-2.6
 
 Modified:
 maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml
 
 Modified: maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml?rev=1137235r1=1137234r2=1137235view=diff
 ==
 --- maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml (original)
 +++ maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml Sat Jun 18 20:00:55 2011
 @@ -507,7 +507,6 @@ under the License.
locales
  localede/locale
  localefr/locale
 -localept_BR/locale
  localesv/locale
/locales
  /configuration
 
 
 


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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
FWIW, I've spent plenty of time on the 'trying to make a test case'
side of the fence and I appreciate how hard it can be.

If someone makes a cogent case that they can't come with a testcase,
then there are possible outcomes:

1: A dev finds the story sufficiently compelling to try to build a
test case or otherwise analyze the problem, soon enough that the
caravan does not move on.
1a: they come up with something and the OP can confirm that it fixes things.
1b: they are stumped or whatever they come with doesn't work.
2: no one in the dev community is willing to tackle.

In short, stating this policy doesn't stop us from trying to be
helpful in the impossible case, I just think that we should be
realistic in declaring failure to avoid recreating the compost heap.

As for github, I don't mind having the email stick to 'attach a zip'.
There are cases where github, or even, 'this svn URL of another Apache
project' allows collaboration with the OP in refining a test case, but
OPs will think of this for themselves.

I don't know that we need a JIRA day; we need everyone willing on dev@
to start digging down the JIRAs pinging.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:02 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19 June 2011 11:52, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 On 2011-06-19 00:30, Benson Margulies wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

 This is one of the major obstacles we have at the Maven project. The
 sheer amount of old and sometimes really old issues in JIRA. For the
 last couple of years I've pinged reporters of new issues straight away
 for test cases, if none was attached to a new issue. But as you say
 there are lots of old ones that are practically impossible to resolve
 without some kind of test case.

 Maybe we should plan a JIRA cleanup day? Let's find a date where some of
 us on the dev team can work together to clean up old issues. We announce
 that together with your proposed letter to the users list as well.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

 I've done this kind of thing for plugins in the past. For those I have
 opted to close the issue as Incomplete, because it lacks a
 reproducible test case.

 +1

 This will make it easier to find later if necessary.

 I think it's vital that the resolution distinguish such cases from
 fixed bugs and non-bugs.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

 Agreed.


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Re: svn commit: r1137235 - /maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
I know what I think I did.

1) my copy of the pom was one back from Dennis' change for the locale.
2) I started the release process.
3) I got an error to the effect that pom.xml was out of date.
4) release:rollback
5) svn up, with a G on the pom, which I thought merged Dennis in.

I can't rule out the possibility that I reversed the rollback and the up.

I'll cancel the vote, fix the pom, and re-roll.


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 Hmm, I not quite sure what happened here. Benson?

 On 2011-06-18 22:00, bimargul...@apache.org wrote:
 Author: bimargulies
 Date: Sat Jun 18 20:00:55 2011
 New Revision: 1137235

 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1137235view=rev
 Log:
 [maven-release-plugin] rollback the release of maven-changes-plugin-2.6

 Modified:
     maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml

 Modified: maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml?rev=1137235r1=1137234r2=1137235view=diff
 ==
 --- maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml (original)
 +++ maven/plugins/trunk/maven-changes-plugin/pom.xml Sat Jun 18 20:00:55 2011
 @@ -507,7 +507,6 @@ under the License.
                locales
                  localede/locale
                  localefr/locale
 -                localept_BR/locale
                  localesv/locale
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Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Derricutt
I'd rather see a release with 3 bug fixes if they code base is idle than see
not see a release for weeks/months whilst someone waits for N more issues to
be resolved.


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On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.auwrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
  To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
  Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
 
  Hi,
 
  We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding


 
  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375
 
 
  There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
  http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
  project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
  SCmode=hide
 
  Staging repo:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/
 
  Staging site:
  http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
 
  Guide to testing staged releases:
  http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
  Vote open for 72 hours.
 
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Re: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
1: This [VOTE] is cancelled due to a merge snafu in the prep.

2: for Gavin: I spent several days fixing up a very broken feature to
render the plugin actually usable with customized JIRA installations.
I want to put that work to work in the real world, and I didn't see
any other outstanding issues that I felt qualified to tackle straight
off. I also invited the dev@ and pmc@ community to comment on the
proposal to make a release several days before I started it, and
received no doubts.

If people would prefer to call it 2.5.1 tell me now, but I think that
the amount of code furniture movement, pace the small JIRA count,
justifies 2.6.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 don't knock somebody who is taking the time and effort to actually run a
 release.

 any improvement is an improvement... you could quibble that maybe it should
 have been a 2.5.1 and not a 2.6 but it is down to the person who steps up to
 make the release.

 speaking with my pmc hat on, any improvement merrits a release... the
 decision as to whether to take that effort is down to the individual
 committer who steps up. it may be that benson needs the release in another
 project, so what you see as trivial may be a blocker to somebody else
 (personally in those cases I usually add a ref to the project needing the
 fast release, but there is no requirement to have such a ref).

 lets keep things positive, and benson, keep up the hard work

 I'll review the release when at a computer where I can test it

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
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 -Original Message-
 From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
 To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
 Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

 Hi,

 We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding



 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375


 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
 SCmode=hide

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/

 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Kristian,

How are you seeing 10?

--benson


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being
 resolved.

 +1 binding

 Given the amount of *work* staging a release is, I hardly doubt anyone
 does a release they don't think is worth it.

 Kristian


 sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald:

  -Original Message-
  From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
  To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
  Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
 
  Hi,
 
  We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding


 
  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375
 
 
  There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
  http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
  project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
  SCmode=hide
 
  Staging repo:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/
 
  Staging site:
  http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
 
  Guide to testing staged releases:
  http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
  Vote open for 72 hours.
 
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Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11212version=17375

??

Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 13:40 skrev Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com:

 Kristian,

 How are you seeing 10?

 --benson


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
 kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being
 resolved.

 +1 binding

 Given the amount of *work* staging a release is, I hardly doubt anyone
 does a release they don't think is worth it.

 Kristian


 sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald:

 -Original Message-
 From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
 To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
 Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

 Hi,

 We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding



 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375


 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
 SCmode=hide

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/

 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2011-06-19 13:39, Benson Margulies wrote:
 Kristian,
 
 How are you seeing 10?

In the release notes:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=17375styleName=TextprojectId=11212

In JIRA 4 the default layout changed so that it shows some sort of
summary, which I don't understand the need for at all. It shows the 3
most recently updated issues:
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375

If you want to see *all* issues for that version (who doesn't?) you need
to click on the Issues tab on the left. Not very user friendly is you
ask me...


 
 --benson
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
 kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being
 resolved.

 +1 binding

 Given the amount of *work* staging a release is, I hardly doubt anyone
 does a release they don't think is worth it.

 Kristian


 sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald:

 -Original Message-
 From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
 To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
 Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

 Hi,

 We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding



 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375


 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
 SCmode=hide

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/

 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

 Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Well, that explains that. 2.6 it is, and new vote coming soon.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 On 2011-06-19 13:39, Benson Margulies wrote:
 Kristian,

 How are you seeing 10?

 In the release notes:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=17375styleName=TextprojectId=11212

 In JIRA 4 the default layout changed so that it shows some sort of
 summary, which I don't understand the need for at all. It shows the 3
 most recently updated issues:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375

 If you want to see *all* issues for that version (who doesn't?) you need
 to click on the Issues tab on the left. Not very user friendly is you
 ask me...



 --benson


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
 kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being
 resolved.

 +1 binding

 Given the amount of *work* staging a release is, I hardly doubt anyone
 does a release they don't think is worth it.

 Kristian


 sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald:

 -Original Message-
 From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
 To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
 Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

 Hi,

 We solved 3 issues:

 Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?

 Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.

 Don’t release for the sake of releasing.

 Gav...

 +-0 non-binding



 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375


 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
 SCmode=hide

 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/

 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/

 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

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[VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Hi,

We solved 10 issues:

http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=17375styleName=TextprojectId=11212


There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DESCmode=hide

Staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-025/

Staging site:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/

Guide to testing staged releases:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html

Vote open for 72 hours.

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Re: [VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
+1 

BTW: Your reply-to and send-to headings are not totally according to
maven common release procedure;
http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-project-release-procedure.html

Kristian

sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 08.16 -0400, skrev Benson Margulies:
 Hi,
 
 We solved 10 issues:
 
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=17375styleName=TextprojectId=11212
 
 
 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DESCmode=hide
 
 Staging repo:
 https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-025/
 
 Staging site:
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
 
 Guide to testing staged releases:
 http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
 
 Vote open for 72 hours.
 
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Help in starting with maven prompter

2011-06-19 Thread goutham vasireddi
Hi

I would like to create this scenario on running a maven project:

Do you want to enter module-name? ( Y / N)
(on entering Y  , i should ask for the parameter)
*Y
module-name: nameofthename
*
(on entering N  , i should terminate the asking process and the rest of the
project build should be completed)

*N
.
.
Project Build Success Full *

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Is this possible with ArchetypeCreationQueryer ?

If so i dont know how to implement it in my project and run it and see how
it works?

Any help will be thank full


Regards
-Goutham


Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread John Casey

+1

Great idea!

On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
an email like the following to the user list.

--snip--

Dear Maven Users,

Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
(http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're going
to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar it
up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
link.

To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.

We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
be more responsive in the future.

--snip--


On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com  wrote:

they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed if the
2nd weeks was too short

- Stephen

---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
screen
On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:

+50

I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no response

- Stephen

---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
screen
On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com  wrote:

I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
integration test, etc.

What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
a real bug.

I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
problem, seems a dubious use of time.

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
so we can focus on the remaining bugs?

I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
shared custom lists...?

K

Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:

 +1

 Great idea!

 On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
 If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
 an email like the following to the user list.

 --snip--

 Dear Maven Users,

 Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
 (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
 issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
 problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
 self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
 to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
 We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're going
 to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
 return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar it
 up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
 link.

 To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
 backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
 If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.

 We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
 long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
 be more responsive in the future.

 --snip--


 On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed if the
 2nd weeks was too short

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 +50

 I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no response

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

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Re: [VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

i've checked the web site and found that the link 
(http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/index.html) 
to the changes.xsd file does not work...


Furthermore the link Cobertura Test Coverage links to the index.html 
page...and not to a cobertura test coverage...


And a question about the the homepage link on the 
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/project-summary.html
Shouldn't that a be a different location than so many ../../.. why no 
simple http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin/; ?


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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
 Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
 so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
 
 I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
 shared custom lists...?

We should be able to use Labels for this:
http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue

I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.


 
 K
 
 Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
 
 +1

 Great idea!

 On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
 If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
 an email like the following to the user list.

 --snip--

 Dear Maven Users,

 Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
 (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
 issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
 problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
 self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
 to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
 We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're going
 to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
 return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar it
 up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
 link.

 To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
 backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
 If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.

 We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
 long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
 be more responsive in the future.

 --snip--


 On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed if the
 2nd weeks was too short

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 +50

 I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no response

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
 JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
 case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
 integration test, etc.

 What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking if
 the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if so,
 can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as not
 a real bug.

 I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to go
 to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x, where
 it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of the
 problem, seems a dubious use of time.

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Re: [VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Benson,

Did you use Maven 3 to deploy the site?

I recommend using Maven 2 for site deployment until we get
maven-site-plugin 3.0-beta-4 released.

On 2011-06-19 19:00, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i've checked the web site and found that the link
 (http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/index.html) to
 the changes.xsd file does not work...
 
 Furthermore the link Cobertura Test Coverage links to the index.html
 page...and not to a cobertura test coverage...
 
 And a question about the the homepage link on the
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/project-summary.html
 
 Shouldn't that a be a different location than so many ../../.. why no
 simple http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin/; ?
 
 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise


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Re: [VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
1) yes. WHen I use 2 I got stumped on authentication in the deploy.

2) I can redeploy. Little did I know.

I don't see any reason to rewind the vote. I'll redeploy.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 Benson,

 Did you use Maven 3 to deploy the site?

 I recommend using Maven 2 for site deployment until we get
 maven-site-plugin 3.0-beta-4 released.

 On 2011-06-19 19:00, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
 Hi,

 i've checked the web site and found that the link
 (http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/index.html) to
 the changes.xsd file does not work...

 Furthermore the link Cobertura Test Coverage links to the index.html
 page...and not to a cobertura test coverage...

 And a question about the the homepage link on the
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/project-summary.html

 Shouldn't that a be a different location than so many ../../.. why no
 simple http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin/; ?

 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise


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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they are
really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
The need is to define them and follow a common convention

Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state Need
Triage and additional status like Verified ...
This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
It's not really difficult to create if we want.
The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance to
create our own workflow.

Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3 

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:

 On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
  Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
  so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
 
  I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
  shared custom lists...?

 We should be able to use Labels for this:
 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue

 I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.


 
  K
 
  Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
 
  +1
 
  Great idea!
 
  On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
  If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
  an email like the following to the user list.
 
  --snip--
 
  Dear Maven Users,
 
  Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
  (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
  issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
  problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
  self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
  to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
  We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're going
  to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
  return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar it
  up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
  link.
 
  To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
  backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
  If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
 
  We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
  long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
  be more responsive in the future.
 
  --snip--
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed if
 the
  2nd weeks was too short
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
 nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on
 the
  screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  +50
 
  I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
 response
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
 nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
 on the
  screen
  On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very old
  JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained test
  case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
  integration test, etc.
 
  What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them asking
 if
  the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if
 so,
  can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as
 not
  a real bug.
 
  I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to
 go
  to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x,
 where
  it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of
 the
  problem, seems a dubious use of time.
 
 
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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:13:11 PM Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
  Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
  so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
  
  I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
  shared custom lists...?
 
 We should be able to use Labels for this:
 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
 
 I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.

For CXF, we have a special NeedMoreInfo version that we use for this.   We 
set the FixFor version to that when we've added a comment that requires more 
information from the user.   We can easily get a list of all the issues that 
require more information, when we asked for it, etc.  

Probably an abuse of the version field though.   :-)

Dan


 
  K
  
  Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
  +1
  
  Great idea!
  
  On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
  If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which
  is
  an email like the following to the user list.
  
  --snip--
  
  Dear Maven Users,
  
  Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
  (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
  unresolved
  issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
  problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
  self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
  difficult
  to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
  bench.'
  We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
  going
  to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
  return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
  it
  up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
  link.
  
  To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
  backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
  If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
  
  We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
  long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help
  us
  be more responsive in the future.
  
  --snip--
  
  
  On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
  
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been
  closed if the 2nd weeks was too short
  
  - Stephen
  
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using
  swype to type on the screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen
  Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
  
  wrote:
  +50
  
  I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
  response
  
  - Stephen
  
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using
  swype to type on the screen
  
  On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com  
wrote:
  I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of
  very old
  JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
  test
  case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
  integration test, etc.
  
  What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
  asking if the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years
  later), and, if so, can they come up with a repeatable test
  case, and if not close as not a real bug.
  
  I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case,
  but to go to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about
  maven 2.0.x, where it may not be that easy to reconstruct the
  critical components of the problem, seems a dubious use of
  time.
  
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Re: [VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
I have redeployed using 2.x.


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 1) yes. WHen I use 2 I got stumped on authentication in the deploy.

 2) I can redeploy. Little did I know.

 I don't see any reason to rewind the vote. I'll redeploy.

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 Benson,

 Did you use Maven 3 to deploy the site?

 I recommend using Maven 2 for site deployment until we get
 maven-site-plugin 3.0-beta-4 released.

 On 2011-06-19 19:00, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
 Hi,

 i've checked the web site and found that the link
 (http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/index.html) to
 the changes.xsd file does not work...

 Furthermore the link Cobertura Test Coverage links to the index.html
 page...and not to a cobertura test coverage...

 And a question about the the homepage link on the
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/project-summary.html

 Shouldn't that a be a different location than so many ../../.. why no
 simple http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin/; ?

 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise


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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
labels seems reasonable, assuming that Codehaus deploys them.

Given the positive response to this idea, I plan to send the email
tomorrow some time and start on MNG.



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:13:11 PM Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
  Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
  so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
 
  I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
  shared custom lists...?

 We should be able to use Labels for this:
 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue

 I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.

 For CXF, we have a special NeedMoreInfo version that we use for this.   We
 set the FixFor version to that when we've added a comment that requires more
 information from the user.   We can easily get a list of all the issues that
 require more information, when we asked for it, etc.

 Probably an abuse of the version field though.   :-)

 Dan



  K
 
  Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
  +1
 
  Great idea!
 
  On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
  If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which
  is
  an email like the following to the user list.
 
  --snip--
 
  Dear Maven Users,
 
  Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
  (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
  unresolved
  issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
  problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
  self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
  difficult
  to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
  bench.'
  We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
  going
  to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
  return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
  it
  up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
  link.
 
  To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
  backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
  If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
 
  We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
  long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help
  us
  be more responsive in the future.
 
  --snip--
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
 
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been
  closed if the 2nd weeks was too short
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using
  swype to type on the screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen
  Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
  +50
 
  I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
  response
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using
  swype to type on the screen
 
  On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of
  very old
  JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
  test
  case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
  integration test, etc.
 
  What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
  asking if the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years
  later), and, if so, can they come up with a repeatable test
  case, and if not close as not a real bug.
 
  I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case,
  but to go to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about
  maven 2.0.x, where it may not be that easy to reconstruct the
  critical components of the problem, seems a dubious use of
  time.
 
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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be for
maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-) (our
at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)

- Stephen

---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
screen
On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they are
 really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
 We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
 The need is to define them and follow a common convention

 Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state Need
 Triage and additional status like Verified ...
 This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
 It's not really difficult to create if we want.
 The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance to
 create our own workflow.

 Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3 

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
wrote:

 On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
  Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
  so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
 
  I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
  shared custom lists...?

 We should be able to use Labels for this:
 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue

 I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.


 
  K
 
  Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
 
  +1
 
  Great idea!
 
  On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
  If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
  an email like the following to the user list.
 
  --snip--
 
  Dear Maven Users,
 
  Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
  (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
  issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
  problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
  self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
  to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
  We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
going
  to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
  return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
it
  up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
  link.
 
  To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
  backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
  If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
 
  We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
  long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
  be more responsive in the future.
 
  --snip--
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed
if
 the
  2nd weeks was too short
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
 nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
on
 the
  screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  +50
 
  I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
 response
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
 nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
 on the
  screen
  On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very
old
  JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
test
  case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
  integration test, etc.
 
  What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
asking
 if
  the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if
 so,
  can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as
 not
  a real bug.
 
  I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to
 go
  to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x,
 where
  it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of
 the
  problem, seems a dubious use of time.
 
 
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Convoluted jiras

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Since my lame attempt at humor on the last thread led to some
confusion, I'll keep this relatively straight.

Consider, if you please, http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2258.

For one thing, this report is marked as 'superceded by' another, but
it's still open. What's that mean?

For another, it wends it ways through various topics, ending up with a
supposition that the OP's original problem might have, in fact, been a
result of a more-or-less by design behavior. At least, a behavior with
the possibility of causing havoc if lightly changed.

Personally, I don't find this sort of thing helpful. I would give it
the same treatment as discussed in the other thread. Either there's a
concrete unwanted behavior, with a test case, or not. If there is, we
should endeavor to resolve it in a comprehensible way.

Other opinions?

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Yes I am admin on the codehaus instance thus technically it is possible for
now.
It will be perhaps less easy when we'll be @ Apache.

Arnaud



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Stephen Connolly 
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:

 as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be for
 maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-)
 (our
 at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
  Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they are
  really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
  We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
  The need is to define them and follow a common convention
 
  Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state Need
  Triage and additional status like Verified ...
  This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
  It's not really difficult to create if we want.
  The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance to
  create our own workflow.
 
  Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3 
 
  On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
   Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
   so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
  
   I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
   shared custom lists...?
 
  We should be able to use Labels for this:
  http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
 
  I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.
 
 
  
   K
  
   Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org
 :
  
   +1
  
   Great idea!
  
   On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
   If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which
 is
   an email like the following to the user list.
  
   --snip--
  
   Dear Maven Users,
  
   Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
   (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
 unresolved
   issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
   problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
   self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
 difficult
   to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
 bench.'
   We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
 going
   to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
   return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
 it
   up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
   link.
  
   To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
   backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
   If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
  
   We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
   long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help
 us
   be more responsive in the future.
  
   --snip--
  
  
   On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
   stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
   they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed
 if
  the
   2nd weeks was too short
  
   - Stephen
  
   ---
   Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense
   words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
 on
  the
   screen
   On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   +50
  
   I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
  response
  
   - Stephen
  
   ---
   Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense
   words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to
 type
  on the
   screen
   On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very
 old
   JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
 test
   case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
   integration test, etc.
  
   What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
 asking
  if
   the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and,
 if
  so,
   can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as
  not
   a real bug.
  
   I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but
 to
  go
   to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x,
  where
   it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical components of
  the
   problem, seems a dubious use of time.
  
  
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   To unsubscribe, 

Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Arnaud Héritier
yes label are available @ Codehaus

Arnaud

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 labels seems reasonable, assuming that Codehaus deploys them.

 Given the positive response to this idea, I plan to send the email
 tomorrow some time and start on MNG.



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote:
  On Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:13:11 PM Dennis Lundberg wrote:
  On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
   Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
   so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
  
   I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
   shared custom lists...?
 
  We should be able to use Labels for this:
  http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
 
  I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.
 
  For CXF, we have a special NeedMoreInfo version that we use for this.
 We
  set the FixFor version to that when we've added a comment that requires
 more
  information from the user.   We can easily get a list of all the issues
 that
  require more information, when we asked for it, etc.
 
  Probably an abuse of the version field though.   :-)
 
  Dan
 
 
 
   K
  
   Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org
 :
   +1
  
   Great idea!
  
   On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
   If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which
   is
   an email like the following to the user list.
  
   --snip--
  
   Dear Maven Users,
  
   Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
   (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
   unresolved
   issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
   problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
   self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
   difficult
   to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
   bench.'
   We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
   going
   to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
   return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
   it
   up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
   link.
  
   To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
   backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
   If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
  
   We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
   long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help
   us
   be more responsive in the future.
  
   --snip--
  
  
   On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
  
   stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
   they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been
   closed if the 2nd weeks was too short
  
   - Stephen
  
   ---
   Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
   nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using
   swype to type on the screen
   On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen
   Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
   +50
  
   I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
   response
  
   - Stephen
  
   ---
   Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
   nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using
   swype to type on the screen
  
   On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of
   very old
   JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
   test
   case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
   integration test, etc.
  
   What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
   asking if the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years
   later), and, if so, can they come up with a repeatable test
   case, and if not close as not a real bug.
  
   I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case,
   but to go to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about
   maven 2.0.x, where it may not be that easy to reconstruct the
   critical components of the problem, seems a dubious use of
   time.
  
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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
We're good here. I just added the label maven-messy to
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2258 as an experiment.

I suggest that we use a specific label for the backlog, so:

   Old report, no test case:

   maven-backlog-cleanup

   New report, no testcase:

   maven-needs-testcase

   Has a patch (this works better than the checkbox)

  maven-patch-available

   Needs design attention and not just a bug fix:

 maven-design




On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be for
 maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-) (our
 at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they are
 really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
 We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
 The need is to define them and follow a common convention

 Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state Need
 Triage and additional status like Verified ...
 This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
 It's not really difficult to create if we want.
 The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance to
 create our own workflow.

 Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3 

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
 wrote:

 On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
  Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
  so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
 
  I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
  shared custom lists...?

 We should be able to use Labels for this:
 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue

 I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.


 
  K
 
  Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
 
  +1
 
  Great idea!
 
  On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
  If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which is
  an email like the following to the user list.
 
  --snip--
 
  Dear Maven Users,
 
  Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
  (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many unresolved
  issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
  problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
  self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very difficult
  to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the bench.'
  We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
 going
  to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
  return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
 it
  up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
  link.
 
  To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
  backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
  If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
 
  We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
  long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help us
  be more responsive in the future.
 
  --snip--
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed
 if
 the
  2nd weeks was too short
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
 nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
 on
 the
  screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  +50
 
  I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
 response
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
 nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
 on the
  screen
  On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very
 old
  JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
 test
  case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
  integration test, etc.
 
  What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
 asking
 if
  the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and, if
 so,
  can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as
 not
  a real bug.
 
  I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but to
 go
  to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x,
 where
  it may not be that easy to reconstruct 

Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
All committers will have access to 'edit' issues at Apache, and that's
all you need to work with labels.


2011/6/19 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com:
 Yes I am admin on the codehaus instance thus technically it is possible for
 now.
 It will be perhaps less easy when we'll be @ Apache.

 Arnaud



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Stephen Connolly 
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:

 as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be for
 maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-)
 (our
 at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)

 - Stephen

 ---
 Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
  Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they are
  really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
  We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
  The need is to define them and follow a common convention
 
  Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state Need
  Triage and additional status like Verified ...
  This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
  It's not really difficult to create if we want.
  The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance to
  create our own workflow.
 
  Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3 
 
  On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
   Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
   so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
  
   I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
   shared custom lists...?
 
  We should be able to use Labels for this:
  http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
 
  I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.
 
 
  
   K
  
   Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org
 :
  
   +1
  
   Great idea!
  
   On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
   If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component, which
 is
   an email like the following to the user list.
  
   --snip--
  
   Dear Maven Users,
  
   Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
   (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
 unresolved
   issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the real
   problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
   self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
 difficult
   to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
 bench.'
   We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
 going
   to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
   return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can tar
 it
   up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
   link.
  
   To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
   backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other followup.
   If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
  
   We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
   long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will help
 us
   be more responsive in the future.
  
   --snip--
  
  
   On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
   stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
   they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been closed
 if
  the
   2nd weeks was too short
  
   - Stephen
  
   ---
   Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense
   words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type
 on
  the
   screen
   On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   +50
  
   I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
  response
  
   - Stephen
  
   ---
   Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
  nonsense
   words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to
 type
  on the
   screen
   On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of very
 old
   JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
 test
   case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
   integration test, etc.
  
   What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
 asking
  if
   the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 years later), and,
 if
  so,
   can they come up with a repeatable test case, and if not close as
  not
   a real bug.
  
   I don't mind in some cases doing work to build a test case, but
 to
  go
   to all this trouble for a bug that was opened about maven 2.0.x,
  where
   it may not be that easy to reconstruct the critical 

Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Arnaud Héritier
It was about to (re-)define the workflow which requires full jira admin

Arnaud

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 All committers will have access to 'edit' issues at Apache, and that's
 all you need to work with labels.


 2011/6/19 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com:
  Yes I am admin on the codehaus instance thus technically it is possible
 for
  now.
  It will be perhaps less easy when we'll be @ Apache.
 
  Arnaud
 
 
 
  On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Stephen Connolly 
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be
 for
  maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-)
  (our
  at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on
 the
  screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
   Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they
 are
   really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
   We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
   The need is to define them and follow a common convention
  
   Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state
 Need
   Triage and additional status like Verified ...
   This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
   It's not really difficult to create if we want.
   The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance
 to
   create our own workflow.
  
   Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3
 
  
   On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
  wrote:
  
   On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging
 process
so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
   
I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or
 create
shared custom lists...?
  
   We should be able to use Labels for this:
   http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
  
   I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.
  
  
   
K
   
Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey 
 jdca...@commonjava.org
  :
   
+1
   
Great idea!
   
On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component,
 which
  is
an email like the following to the user list.
   
--snip--
   
Dear Maven Users,
   
Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
(http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
  unresolved
issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the
 real
problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
  difficult
to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
  bench.'
We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
  going
to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can
 tar
  it
up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
link.
   
To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other
 followup.
If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
   
We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will
 help
  us
be more responsive in the future.
   
--snip--
   
   
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been
 closed
  if
   the
2nd weeks was too short
   
- Stephen
   
---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
   nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to
 type
  on
   the
screen
On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
   stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:
+50
   
I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
   response
   
- Stephen
   
---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
   nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to
  type
   on the
screen
On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of
 very
  old
JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
  test
case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
integration test, etc.
   
What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on them
  asking
   if
the OP is still interested (in some cases, 5 

Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Yes, indeed.

2011/6/19 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com:
 It was about to (re-)define the workflow which requires full jira admin

 Arnaud

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Benson Margulies 
 bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 All committers will have access to 'edit' issues at Apache, and that's
 all you need to work with labels.


 2011/6/19 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com:
  Yes I am admin on the codehaus instance thus technically it is possible
 for
  now.
  It will be perhaps less easy when we'll be @ Apache.
 
  Arnaud
 
 
 
  On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Stephen Connolly 
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be
 for
  maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-)
  (our
  at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)
 
  - Stephen
 
  ---
  Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
  words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on
 the
  screen
  On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
   Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they
 are
   really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
   We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
   The need is to define them and follow a common convention
  
   Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state
 Need
   Triage and additional status like Verified ...
   This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
   It's not really difficult to create if we want.
   The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance
 to
   create our own workflow.
  
   Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3
 
  
   On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
  wrote:
  
   On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging
 process
so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
   
I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or
 create
shared custom lists...?
  
   We should be able to use Labels for this:
   http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
  
   I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.
  
  
   
K
   
Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey 
 jdca...@commonjava.org
  :
   
+1
   
Great idea!
   
On 6/18/11 10:22 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
If no one objects to this idea, I'd like to add a component,
 which
  is
an email like the following to the user list.
   
--snip--
   
Dear Maven Users,
   
Over the years, the JIRA for core Maven
(http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG) has accumulated many
  unresolved
issues. All this clutter makes it difficult to tell where the
 real
problems are. Further, many of these issues do not contain
self-contained test cases. Practically speaking, it is very
  difficult
to diagnose and resolve a problem without a test case 'on the
  bench.'
We developers would like to turn over a bit of a new leaf. We're
  going
to ask you to supply a test case to go with your bug reports. In
return, we're going to try very hard to attend to them. You can
 tar
  it
up and attach it to the jira, or just push it to github and add a
link.
   
To clean up the current mess, we plan to start going through the
backlog. We'll add comments asking for test cases or other
 followup.
If we don't hear back in two weeks, we're going to close.
   
We're sorry for any frustration felt by the originators of
long-neglected reports, but we believe that this process will
 help
  us
be more responsive in the future.
   
--snip--
   
   
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
they can always reopen if they want after the issue has been
 closed
  if
   the
2nd weeks was too short
   
- Stephen
   
---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
   nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to
 type
  on
   the
screen
On 19 Jun 2011 00:20, Stephen Connolly
   stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:
+50
   
I say lets give each issue a ping, wait 2 weeks and close if no
   response
   
- Stephen
   
---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random
   nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to
  type
   on the
screen
On 18 Jun 2011 23:30, Benson Marguliesbimargul...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
I just looked at the 'blocker' issues. We have a variety of
 very
  old
JIRAs here. None of the ones I looked at have a self-contained
  test
case that would can be downloaded, run, and converted to an
integration test, etc.
   
What's the policy? My temptation would be to comment on 

Re: [VOTE take 2]: release maven-changes-plugin version 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2011-06-19 19:42, Benson Margulies wrote:
 1) yes. WHen I use 2 I got stumped on authentication in the deploy.
 
 2) I can redeploy. Little did I know.
 
 I don't see any reason to rewind the vote. I'll redeploy.

Me neither. A redeploy will do nicely, thanks.
I'll try to review tomorrow.

 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org wrote:
 Benson,

 Did you use Maven 3 to deploy the site?

 I recommend using Maven 2 for site deployment until we get
 maven-site-plugin 3.0-beta-4 released.

 On 2011-06-19 19:00, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
 Hi,

 i've checked the web site and found that the link
 (http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/index.html) to
 the changes.xsd file does not work...

 Furthermore the link Cobertura Test Coverage links to the index.html
 page...and not to a cobertura test coverage...

 And a question about the the homepage link on the
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/project-summary.html

 Shouldn't that a be a different location than so many ../../.. why no
 simple http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin/; ?

 Kind regards
 Karl Heinz Marbaise


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RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Kristian Rosenvold [mailto:kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 7:50 PM
 To: 'Maven Developers List'
 Subject: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
 
 Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being resolved.

Probably not, I'm looking at the link that Benson gave:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375 

and combining that with the words:

   We solved 3 issues:

I think you are looking in the wrong place.

 
 +1 binding
 
 Given the amount of *work* staging a release is, I hardly doubt anyone does
 a release they don't think is worth it.

Compared to some other projects, not much work at all.

Gav...

 
 Kristian
 
 
 sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald:
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
   To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
   Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
  
   Hi,
  
   We solved 3 issues:
 
  Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?
 
  Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.
 
  Don’t release for the sake of releasing.
 
  Gav...
 
  +-0 non-binding
 
 
  
   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375
  
  
   There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
   http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQu
   ery=
  
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
   SCmode=hide
  
   Staging repo:
   https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/
  
   Staging site:
   http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
  
   Guide to testing staged releases:
   http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-
 releases.ht
   ml
  
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RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Derricutt [mailto:m...@talios.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 9:37 PM
 To: Maven Developers List; ga...@16degrees.com.au
 Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
 
 I'd rather see a release with 3 bug fixes if they code base is idle than see 
 not
 see a release for weeks/months whilst someone waits for N more issues to
 be resolved.

I would be happy with weeks to be honest. Then again I have been used to being 
around
slower projects that have released only every 2 or 3 years once 1 or 2 hundred 
issues have
been gathered into a release. And the release process itself takes weeks of 
work to 
achieve.

Therefore ignore me, 3 issues seems like doing a days work, then release, then 
another days
work, then release etc ...

Gav...

 
 
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 Porcupine Tree
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Gavin McDonald
 ga...@16degrees.com.auwrote:
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM
   To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List
   Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6
  
   Hi,
  
   We solved 3 issues:
 
  Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues?
 
  Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more.
 
  Don’t release for the sake of releasing.
 
  Gav...
 
  +-0 non-binding
 
 
  
   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375
  
  
   There are plenty of issues left in JIRA:
  
 http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=
  
 project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DE
   SCmode=hide
  
   Staging repo:
   https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-024/
  
   Staging site:
   http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.6/
  
   Guide to testing staged releases:
   http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-
 releases.html
  
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1.5 policy

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
http://maven.apache.org/developers/java5.html

Should we update the above?

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Re: maven-core tests fail when invoked via ant.

2011-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Is there a reason you can't use the build.xml we've already provided for those 
that need to bootstrap? Hopefully that would simplify things for you.

The problem you're seeing is probably related to an incorrect definition of a 
META-INF/plexus/components.xml file related to that SecDispatcher component. 
You're probably pulling in a file you didn't intend to. Hopefully you can grep 
through the test resources and find the culprit.

- Brett

On 19/06/2011, at 4:34 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote:

 Hi,
 We are in the process of integrating Maven in to Gentoo. Currently, we are
 trying to bootstrap maven. Our strategy is to integrate each and every
 sub-project of Maven-2.2.1 [1] separately. So, we first transformed these to
 an ant projects by generating the build.xml via `mvn ant:ant`. I know that
 Maven provides a build.xml in the parent, but we have to integrate each and
 every project separately. We will be moving to 3.x after 2.x is complete. We
 chose 2.x as it's much stable, and is much popular currently.
 
 So far, we have successfully integrated project up-to maven-core in the
 build order. But, we are encountering an issue in maven-core. When invoked
 via mvn (mvn install), it passes the tests successfully (obviously!). But
 when I invoke the project via ant, a test fails with an ERROR.
 
 I'm sending this to the dev group thinking this error is probably obvious to
 you all.
 
 =
 test:
[mkdir] Created dir:
 /gentoo-sources/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core-2.2.1/target/test-reports
[junit] Running org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest
[junit] Testsuite: org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest
[junit] Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Time elapsed: 2.361 sec
[junit] Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Time elapsed: 2.361 sec
[junit]
[junit] Testcase: testSelectHttpWagonFromDefault took 0.358 sec
[junit] Caused an ERROR
[junit] Error starting container
[junit] org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusContainerException: Error starting
 container
[junit] at
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.start(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:795)
[junit] at
 org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusTestCase.setUp(PlexusTestCase.java:121)
[junit] at
 org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest.setUp(WagonSelectorTest.java:76)
[junit] Caused by:
 org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.exception.ComponentRepositoryException:
 Component descriptor role:
 'org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.SecDispatcher',
 implementation:
 'org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.DefaultSecDispatcher', role
 hint: 'maven' has a hint, but there are other implementations that don't
[junit] at
 org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.DefaultComponentRepository.addComponentDescriptor(DefaultComponentRepository.java:184)
[junit] at
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.addComponentDescriptor(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:515)
[junit] at
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.discoverComponents(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:738)
[junit] at
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.start(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:779)
[junit]
 
 BUILD FAILED
 /gentoo-sources/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core-2.2.1/maven-build.xml:206:
 Test org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest failed
 
 =
 
 Any clues on getting rid of this error? I'm thinking whether the generated
 build.xml has some issue. Much appreciate your help!
 
 The maven-build.xml is at [2]. The full ant output of the test failure is at
 [3]. I'm using maven-ant-plugin-2.3 with maven-2.2.1. The test fails with
 both ant 1.7.1 and 1.8.1. Please do let me know if any other information is
 needed.
 
 [1]
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core/
 [2] http://pastebin.com/9eWM0xjN
 [3] http://pastebin.com/vRC6qVa8
 
 Thanks,
 --Kasun
 
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Re: 1.5 policy

2011-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
IMO yep, no need to go through that much effort - we haven't supported running 
Maven on Java 1.4 in the core for quite some time now.

On 20/06/2011, at 8:29 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 http://maven.apache.org/developers/java5.html
 
 Should we update the above?
 
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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Thanks for initiating this. The cleanup is something I've worked on from time 
to time and each time burned out before getting to the end :) It's definitely a 
case of many hands make light work.

At the moment, we use versions to measure triage, but labels sound like a much 
better alternative. I like yours, though I think backlog cleanup should apply 
to all issues regardless of test case / old / new / patch that we can work down 
to 0. You also have a gap - there's nothing to specify that it's reviewed, has 
sufficient information to reproduce (preferably a test case), but doesn't have 
a patch. 

How about we have 3 label states to describe triage:
* no label in this group - brand new issue, needs review. We should send this 
list to dev@ once a week to remind us to look at them...
* maven-backlog-cleanup - old issues that have not been reviewed recently
* maven-triaged - new issues get this once they've been reviewed but nobody is 
ready to work on it yet

Then the other two labels are additive to the above:
* maven-needs-testcase
* maven-patch-available

Both are self explanatory, the first calling on the reporter to push it 
forward, the second calling on the committers to push it forward.

What we have now:

1) 1 issue for 2.2.2 (because it's a regression on the 2.2.x branch)

We can either discard the changes on the 2.2.x branch (resume from 2.2.1 if we 
ever need a patch release), or fix this and push 2.2.2 as the EOL version

2) 1 issue for 3.0.4

Something Hervé is working on - but in general we need a list of stuff to do 
for this release, if at all.

3) 42 issues for 3.1

This list is probably out of date now, but they were at least triaged. We 
should decide what really is going to constitute 3.1, and move the rest to the 
triaged area

4) 325 Issues to be reviewed for 3.x

Not yet triaged issues, moved out so that new stuff coming in could be more 
easily identified (!). I suggest we remove this version and label them 
maven-backlog-cleanup

5) 30 in 3.x / Backlog

Triaged issues (bearing in mind that it happened over a year ago, and so may 
have aged again). I suggest we remove the version and label it maven-triaged

6) 52 Documentation Deficit

These would be best moved to a dedicated documentation project, or a label 
within MNG. We sometimes use MNG, sometimes MNGSITE - a strategy around this 
would be helpful. I continue to favour versioned documentation, but I know 
that's not everyone's preference - best leave that decision to those working on 
it more recently :)

7) 96 Unscheduled

Not yet triaged issues. We can either keep these as new, or filter by time and 
put some in the cleanup bucket.

Cheers,
Brett

On 20/06/2011, at 5:34 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 We're good here. I just added the label maven-messy to
 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2258 as an experiment.
 
 I suggest that we use a specific label for the backlog, so:
 
   Old report, no test case:
 
   maven-backlog-cleanup
 
   New report, no testcase:
 
   maven-needs-testcase
 
   Has a patch (this works better than the checkbox)
 
  maven-patch-available
 
   Needs design attention and not just a bug fix:
 
 maven-design
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as I know ben made you me and brett admins... but that might be for
 maven stuff only... I can always bash ben on the head if we want to ;-) (our
 at least ask someone to bash ben on the head)
 
 - Stephen
 
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 words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
 screen
 On 19 Jun 2011 19:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Labels are now a native feature in recent releases of Jira and they are
 really useful to tag issues for a need like this one.
 We could use them also to give a complexity level of the issue, ...
 The need is to define them and follow a common convention
 
 Another solution is to have a custom workflow with a default state Need
 Triage and additional status like Verified ...
 This is what they have @ Atlassian if i remember well.
 It's not really difficult to create if we want.
 The only limitation is that we need to be admin of the jira instance to
 create our own workflow.
 
 Arnaud, who is fighting in // to upgrade a Jira 4.2 instance to 4.3 
 
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Dennis Lundberg denn...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
 On 2011-06-19 18:46, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
 Is there any smart way to tag a bug as processed in a triaging process
 so we can focus on the remaining bugs?
 
 I've always wondered if there's any option to tag an issue or create
 shared custom lists...?
 
 We should be able to use Labels for this:
 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA043/Labelling+an+Issue
 
 I haven't used them myself yet, but they seem to fit the bill.
 
 
 
 K
 
 Den 19. juni 2011 kl. 18:42 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org:
 
 +1
 

Re: Convoluted jiras

2011-06-19 Thread Brett Porter

On 20/06/2011, at 5:30 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 Since my lame attempt at humor on the last thread led to some
 confusion, I'll keep this relatively straight.
 
 Consider, if you please, http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2258.
 
 For one thing, this report is marked as 'superceded by' another, but
 it's still open. What's that mean?

That's not very helpful. I'd remove that link, or maybe make it related.

 
 For another, it wends it ways through various topics, ending up with a
 supposition that the OP's original problem might have, in fact, been a
 result of a more-or-less by design behavior. At least, a behavior with
 the possibility of causing havoc if lightly changed.
 
 Personally, I don't find this sort of thing helpful. I would give it
 the same treatment as discussed in the other thread. Either there's a
 concrete unwanted behavior, with a test case, or not. If there is, we
 should endeavor to resolve it in a comprehensible way.
 
 Other opinions?

I agree with the current state - it should stay closed, and anyone that wants 
to report a different case can create a new issue linking back to that one.

If I catch a comment on a closed issue I generally tell them to start a new 
one. I'll only reopen if there hasn't been a release and it can be reclosed in 
a reasonable time (otherwise you mess up historical release notes). 

- Brett

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Re: Convoluted jiras

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
It's closed because I, myself, closed it today :-)

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote:

 On 20/06/2011, at 5:30 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 Since my lame attempt at humor on the last thread led to some
 confusion, I'll keep this relatively straight.

 Consider, if you please, http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2258.

 For one thing, this report is marked as 'superceded by' another, but
 it's still open. What's that mean?

 That's not very helpful. I'd remove that link, or maybe make it related.


 For another, it wends it ways through various topics, ending up with a
 supposition that the OP's original problem might have, in fact, been a
 result of a more-or-less by design behavior. At least, a behavior with
 the possibility of causing havoc if lightly changed.

 Personally, I don't find this sort of thing helpful. I would give it
 the same treatment as discussed in the other thread. Either there's a
 concrete unwanted behavior, with a test case, or not. If there is, we
 should endeavor to resolve it in a comprehensible way.

 Other opinions?

 I agree with the current state - it should stay closed, and anyone that wants 
 to report a different case can create a new issue linking back to that one.

 If I catch a comment on a closed issue I generally tell them to start a new 
 one. I'll only reopen if there hasn't been a release and it can be reclosed 
 in a reasonable time (otherwise you mess up historical release notes).

 - Brett

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
There is one critical issue open only because it was never ported to
2.0.x. Presumably that also gets closed?

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Re: The JIRA chocolate box

2011-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Yes.

On 20/06/2011, at 11:10 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 There is one critical issue open only because it was never ported to
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Re: maven-core tests fail when invoked via ant.

2011-06-19 Thread Kasun Gajasinghe
Hi Brett,

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote:



 The problem you're seeing is probably related to an incorrect definition of
 a META-INF/plexus/components.xml file related to that SecDispatcher
 component. You're probably pulling in a file you didn't intend to. Hopefully
 you can grep through the test resources and find the culprit.


Yes, thanks. maven-core uses plexus-sec-dispatcher version 1.3, which
doesn't contain a role-hint in META-INF/plexus/components.xml. So, I've
updated the version to 1.4, and the test error I mentioned is gone.

Well, now there's a test _failure_ (not error), in MavenCliTest, which I've
identified as due to the wrong compilation version. i.e. according to
maven-core pom, **/cli/*.java files should be compiled using JDK 1.4 while
the rest of classes using 1.5. But apparently, the generated build.xml
disregard this setting and compiles the whole bunch using 1.5.
Is this a bug in the maven ant plugin or ant is incapable of handling this
kind of thing?

Is there a reason you can't use the build.xml we've already provided for
 those that need to bootstrap? Hopefully that would simplify things for you.


Since we have to package the sub-modules separately, we can't use the
provided build.xml. Building via mvn ant:ant too isn't a much of a problem.
But these test failures is a concern.

Thanks for the help!
--Kasun



 - Brett

 On 19/06/2011, at 4:34 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote:

  Hi,
  We are in the process of integrating Maven in to Gentoo. Currently, we
 are
  trying to bootstrap maven. Our strategy is to integrate each and every
  sub-project of Maven-2.2.1 [1] separately. So, we first transformed these
 to
  an ant projects by generating the build.xml via `mvn ant:ant`. I know
 that
  Maven provides a build.xml in the parent, but we have to integrate each
 and
  every project separately. We will be moving to 3.x after 2.x is complete.
 We
  chose 2.x as it's much stable, and is much popular currently.
 
  So far, we have successfully integrated project up-to maven-core in the
  build order. But, we are encountering an issue in maven-core. When
 invoked
  via mvn (mvn install), it passes the tests successfully (obviously!). But
  when I invoke the project via ant, a test fails with an ERROR.
 
  I'm sending this to the dev group thinking this error is probably obvious
 to
  you all.
 
  =
  test:
 [mkdir] Created dir:
 
 /gentoo-sources/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core-2.2.1/target/test-reports
 [junit] Running org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest
 [junit] Testsuite: org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest
 [junit] Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Time elapsed: 2.361 sec
 [junit] Tests run: 1, Failures: 0, Errors: 1, Time elapsed: 2.361 sec
 [junit]
 [junit] Testcase: testSelectHttpWagonFromDefault took 0.358 sec
 [junit] Caused an ERROR
 [junit] Error starting container
 [junit] org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusContainerException: Error starting
  container
 [junit] at
 
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.start(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:795)
 [junit] at
  org.codehaus.plexus.PlexusTestCase.setUp(PlexusTestCase.java:121)
 [junit] at
  org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest.setUp(WagonSelectorTest.java:76)
 [junit] Caused by:
 
 org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.exception.ComponentRepositoryException:
  Component descriptor role:
  'org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.SecDispatcher',
  implementation:
  'org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.DefaultSecDispatcher',
 role
  hint: 'maven' has a hint, but there are other implementations that don't
 [junit] at
 
 org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.DefaultComponentRepository.addComponentDescriptor(DefaultComponentRepository.java:184)
 [junit] at
 
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.addComponentDescriptor(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:515)
 [junit] at
 
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.discoverComponents(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:738)
 [junit] at
 
 org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.start(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:779)
 [junit]
 
  BUILD FAILED
 
 /gentoo-sources/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core-2.2.1/maven-build.xml:206:
  Test org.apache.maven.WagonSelectorTest failed
 
  =
 
  Any clues on getting rid of this error? I'm thinking whether the
 generated
  build.xml has some issue. Much appreciate your help!
 
  The maven-build.xml is at [2]. The full ant output of the test failure is
 at
  [3]. I'm using maven-ant-plugin-2.3 with maven-2.2.1. The test fails with
  both ant 1.7.1 and 1.8.1. Please do let me know if any other information
 is
  needed.
 
  [1]
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-core/
  [2] http://pastebin.com/9eWM0xjN
  [3] http://pastebin.com/vRC6qVa8
 
  Thanks,
  --Kasun
 
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