Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade
You really are on a hiding to nothing trying to work with or upgrade a buster distribution because Python 2.7 has been obsoleted. A much quicker pathway would be to Install the latest 2.9.2 Iso from https://linuxcnc.org/iso/LinuxCNC_2.9.2-amd64.hybrid.iso If you really want to use 2.10 from the buildbot 2 at http://buildbot2.highlab.com/ edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxcnc.list to use the lines shown on the buildbot page to be something like deb http://buildbot2.highlab.com/debian/ bookworm master-uspace Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network www.vehiclemods.net.au On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 07:37, Hans Unzner wrote: > I am using the latest Glade version (3.40.0), probably THE latest > version unfortunately. > But also versions like 3.38.0 should be fine. > You have to make sure that you have the catalogs, that is easiest done > when editing it in a run-in-place environment > ( > https://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html#_building_for_run_in_place > ) > > Am 30.12.23 um 17:22 schrieb melhima: > > Hi Hans > > > > Thanks for your answer > > Ok got that no problem to restart the job > > But could you tell me wich one version of glade can edit the gmoccapy > > file and match with the components > > I would like to make sure this time will.be the right one ;) > > Thanks a lot > > > > Cordialement, > > > > Moustapha Elhima > > *ELMO - machines outils > > *+33 6 09 99 21 97 > > > > Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci > > > > > > Message d'origine > > De : Hans Unzner > > Date : 30/12/2023 16:57 (GMT+01:00) > > À : emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > Objet : Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade > > > > I'm afraid but I think you have to do your modifications once more for > > LinuxCNC 2.9/2.10. There have been so many changes during the upgrade > > from Python2 to Python3 and Gtk2 to Gtk3, which make it almost > > impossible to merge from 2.8, especially the glade file. Also a huge > > number of deprecated widgets have been replaced in Gmoccapy for > > LinuxCNCN 2.9. > > So I would recommend to just do it again for the current version. Sorry. > > > > Hans > > > > Am 30.12.23 um 15:08 schrieb ELHIMA Moustapha via Emc-developers: > > > Hi guy's > > > > > > Houston I have a problem... I project to use the mesa 5i25T instead > > off the 5i25 ( was good for me) > > > For the I need at list the linuxcnc2.10pre version > > > > > > I had customized the gmoccapy interface (gmoccapy.glade) to get some > > other functionality and work also on the bin file of it > > > After few hours of work... I get the suprise to had made all of this > > stuff on the 2.8 version of linuxcnc. > > > > > > I said " ok lets spend again a part of your life time again...". So > > I decided to merge to the buster version and install linuxcnc from the > > biuldbot. > > > Linuxcnc2.10pre and the mesa 5i25T working fine. > > > So 2nd step was to make the same modification on the gmoccapy > > interface and I get a terrible headache. > > > Python need to be version 3 instead off 2 for linuxcnc2.8 but ok no > > problem for that ( or maybe there is a script to merge python 2 to 3?) > > > For Glade I had installed v3.40 and no way to get the hal library > > and gladevcp. > > > > > > Is it possible to get the right way to update gmoccapy on linuxcnc > > 2.10pre??? > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > > > Cordialement, > > > > > > Moustapha Elhima > > > ELMO - machines outils > > > +33 6 09 99 21 97 > > > > > > P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci > > > > > > ___ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > ___ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade
I am using the latest Glade version (3.40.0), probably THE latest version unfortunately. But also versions like 3.38.0 should be fine. You have to make sure that you have the catalogs, that is easiest done when editing it in a run-in-place environment (https://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html#_building_for_run_in_place) Am 30.12.23 um 17:22 schrieb melhima: Hi Hans Thanks for your answer Ok got that no problem to restart the job But could you tell me wich one version of glade can edit the gmoccapy file and match with the components I would like to make sure this time will.be the right one ;) Thanks a lot Cordialement, Moustapha Elhima *ELMO - machines outils *+33 6 09 99 21 97 Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci Message d'origine De : Hans Unzner Date : 30/12/2023 16:57 (GMT+01:00) À : emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade I'm afraid but I think you have to do your modifications once more for LinuxCNC 2.9/2.10. There have been so many changes during the upgrade from Python2 to Python3 and Gtk2 to Gtk3, which make it almost impossible to merge from 2.8, especially the glade file. Also a huge number of deprecated widgets have been replaced in Gmoccapy for LinuxCNCN 2.9. So I would recommend to just do it again for the current version. Sorry. Hans Am 30.12.23 um 15:08 schrieb ELHIMA Moustapha via Emc-developers: > Hi guy's > > Houston I have a problem... I project to use the mesa 5i25T instead off the 5i25 ( was good for me) > For the I need at list the linuxcnc2.10pre version > > I had customized the gmoccapy interface (gmoccapy.glade) to get some other functionality and work also on the bin file of it > After few hours of work... I get the suprise to had made all of this stuff on the 2.8 version of linuxcnc. > > I said " ok lets spend again a part of your life time again...". So I decided to merge to the buster version and install linuxcnc from the biuldbot. > Linuxcnc2.10pre and the mesa 5i25T working fine. > So 2nd step was to make the same modification on the gmoccapy interface and I get a terrible headache. > Python need to be version 3 instead off 2 for linuxcnc2.8 but ok no problem for that ( or maybe there is a script to merge python 2 to 3?) > For Glade I had installed v3.40 and no way to get the hal library and gladevcp. > > Is it possible to get the right way to update gmoccapy on linuxcnc 2.10pre??? > > Thanks for your help > > Cordialement, > > Moustapha Elhima > ELMO - machines outils > +33 6 09 99 21 97 > > P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci > > ___ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade
Hi SteffenOk I see, so no way to edit the file with glade?Gmoccapy was created with witch version?Thanks again for your helpCordialement,Moustapha ElhimaPenser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci Message d'origine De : Steffen Möller via Emc-developers Date : 30/12/2023 22:10 (GMT+01:00) À : emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Cc : Steffen Möller , emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade Well, there may be another option if you still have (or can still retrieve) the tarball from which you started.It is three steps:1. Rename your current source tree to avoid overwriting it, call it "mywork"2. Unpack the original tarball of LinuxCNC of version 2.8 that you edited.3. Create a diff of the two and redirect that into a file: diff -r original mywork > whateverpathto/mywork.patch4. Clone the current master branch of LinuxCNC5. patch it with what you saved in mywork.patch: patch -p1 < whateverpathto/mywork.patchNot all hunks of that patch will work, but many will be just fine.Good luck!Steffen> Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 16:55 Uhr> Von: "Hans Unzner" > An: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade>> I'm afraid but I think you have to do your modifications once more for > LinuxCNC 2.9/2.10. There have been so many changes during the upgrade > from Python2 to Python3 and Gtk2 to Gtk3, which make it almost > impossible to merge from 2.8, especially the glade file. Also a huge > number of deprecated widgets have been replaced in Gmoccapy for > LinuxCNCN 2.9.> So I would recommend to just do it again for the current version. Sorry.> > Hans> > Am 30.12.23 um 15:08 schrieb ELHIMA Moustapha via Emc-developers:> > Hi guy's> >> > Houston I have a problem... I project to use the mesa 5i25T instead off the 5i25 ( was good for me)> > For the I need at list the linuxcnc2.10pre version> >> > I had customized the gmoccapy interface (gmoccapy.glade) to get some other functionality and work also on the bin file of it> > After few hours of work... I get the suprise to had made all of this stuff on the 2.8 version of linuxcnc.> >> > I said " ok lets spend again a part of your life time again...". So I decided to merge to the buster version and install linuxcnc from the biuldbot.> > Linuxcnc2.10pre and the mesa 5i25T working fine.> > So 2nd step was to make the same modification on the gmoccapy interface and I get a terrible headache.> > Python need to be version 3 instead off 2 for linuxcnc2.8 but ok no problem for that ( or maybe there is a script to merge python 2 to 3?)> > For Glade I had installed v3.40 and no way to get the hal library and gladevcp.> >> > Is it possible to get the right way to update gmoccapy on linuxcnc 2.10pre???> >> > Thanks for your help> >> > Cordialement,> >> > Moustapha Elhima> > ELMO - machines outils> > +33 6 09 99 21 97> >> > P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci> >> > ___> > Emc-developers mailing list> > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers> > > > ___> Emc-developers mailing list> Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers>___Emc-developers mailing listEmc-developers@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade
Well, there may be another option if you still have (or can still retrieve) the tarball from which you started. It is three steps: 1. Rename your current source tree to avoid overwriting it, call it "mywork" 2. Unpack the original tarball of LinuxCNC of version 2.8 that you edited. 3. Create a diff of the two and redirect that into a file: diff -r original mywork > whateverpathto/mywork.patch 4. Clone the current master branch of LinuxCNC 5. patch it with what you saved in mywork.patch: patch -p1 < whateverpathto/mywork.patch Not all hunks of that patch will work, but many will be just fine. Good luck! Steffen > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 16:55 Uhr > Von: "Hans Unzner" > An: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade > > I'm afraid but I think you have to do your modifications once more for > LinuxCNC 2.9/2.10. There have been so many changes during the upgrade > from Python2 to Python3 and Gtk2 to Gtk3, which make it almost > impossible to merge from 2.8, especially the glade file. Also a huge > number of deprecated widgets have been replaced in Gmoccapy for > LinuxCNCN 2.9. > So I would recommend to just do it again for the current version. Sorry. > > Hans > > Am 30.12.23 um 15:08 schrieb ELHIMA Moustapha via Emc-developers: > > Hi guy's > > > > Houston I have a problem... I project to use the mesa 5i25T instead off the > > 5i25 ( was good for me) > > For the I need at list the linuxcnc2.10pre version > > > > I had customized the gmoccapy interface (gmoccapy.glade) to get some other > > functionality and work also on the bin file of it > > After few hours of work... I get the suprise to had made all of this stuff > > on the 2.8 version of linuxcnc. > > > > I said " ok lets spend again a part of your life time again...". So I > > decided to merge to the buster version and install linuxcnc from the > > biuldbot. > > Linuxcnc2.10pre and the mesa 5i25T working fine. > > So 2nd step was to make the same modification on the gmoccapy interface and > > I get a terrible headache. > > Python need to be version 3 instead off 2 for linuxcnc2.8 but ok no problem > > for that ( or maybe there is a script to merge python 2 to 3?) > > For Glade I had installed v3.40 and no way to get the hal library and > > gladevcp. > > > > Is it possible to get the right way to update gmoccapy on linuxcnc > > 2.10pre??? > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Cordialement, > > > > Moustapha Elhima > > ELMO - machines outils > > +33 6 09 99 21 97 > > > > P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci > > > > ___ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > ___ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade
I'm afraid but I think you have to do your modifications once more for LinuxCNC 2.9/2.10. There have been so many changes during the upgrade from Python2 to Python3 and Gtk2 to Gtk3, which make it almost impossible to merge from 2.8, especially the glade file. Also a huge number of deprecated widgets have been replaced in Gmoccapy for LinuxCNCN 2.9. So I would recommend to just do it again for the current version. Sorry. Hans Am 30.12.23 um 15:08 schrieb ELHIMA Moustapha via Emc-developers: Hi guy's Houston I have a problem... I project to use the mesa 5i25T instead off the 5i25 ( was good for me) For the I need at list the linuxcnc2.10pre version I had customized the gmoccapy interface (gmoccapy.glade) to get some other functionality and work also on the bin file of it After few hours of work... I get the suprise to had made all of this stuff on the 2.8 version of linuxcnc. I said " ok lets spend again a part of your life time again...". So I decided to merge to the buster version and install linuxcnc from the biuldbot. Linuxcnc2.10pre and the mesa 5i25T working fine. So 2nd step was to make the same modification on the gmoccapy interface and I get a terrible headache. Python need to be version 3 instead off 2 for linuxcnc2.8 but ok no problem for that ( or maybe there is a script to merge python 2 to 3?) For Glade I had installed v3.40 and no way to get the hal library and gladevcp. Is it possible to get the right way to update gmoccapy on linuxcnc 2.10pre??? Thanks for your help Cordialement, Moustapha Elhima ELMO - machines outils +33 6 09 99 21 97 P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - first impressions
Rod, Thank you for your kind and swift reply. HDMI sound works perfectly with the Raspbian default. Also, I think this would find quite some user base, since anyone reusing an old TV or a feature-rich monitor with the RPi would immediately benefit. I also mentioned games before :) The RPi image we come up with does not need to be perfect. Our users should just not be surprised with anythin when using it. My wishlist would be * A pointer to our manual at all the places where the image could be downloaded * The manual describing - how the image is created so they can contribute - what not to do with that image On a sidenote, please have a look at http://raspi.debian.net/. Nothing on the RPi5, though maybe this resonates somehow with what we are after. Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 14:16 Uhr > Von: "Rod Webster" > An: "EMC developers" > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - > first impressions > > Steffen, > > Some good feedback thanks. > I'm really not surprised things broke on an update because we compile the > kernel from the Raspberry sources at a specific point in the commit tree. > It's not a generic Debian build by any means. LIkewise installing a > different desktop is also asking for trouble. > > Having no sound is also not surprising because in the absence of an audio > jack you are dependent on HDMI and I know other SBC's have issues with HDMI > sound. If someone has a solution please let me know > > Please bear in mind that this image is over 6 weeks old and there have been > several kernel releases and countless commits to the raspberry pi kernel > since then. > > But for me, the main thing is that it's only in the last few days that the > kernel version and the PREEMPT_RT patch align perfectly so I am hoping my > next version is more robust. That has never happened in the life of the pi5 > before. > > To test latency on the console, you can install the debian rt-tests > package. I have found that our latency-histogram yields similar results. > > I don't think a single 400 usec spike when opening a browser is of concern. > Thats not something you do when running a gcode program. > > Hopefully I will have some peace and quiet over the weekend to build a new > version. > > Rod Webster > *1300 896 832* > +61 435 765 611 > Vehicle Modifications Network > www.vehiclemods.net.au > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 21:58, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers < > emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > Heya, > > > > Not only that we have a RPi4/5 confusion, you managed to add a Rod/b one. > > > > So, the image Andy pointed to (which I understand has its roots with Rod) > > works very nicely. While idle latencies did not exceed 12µs, mostly below > > 10. That was truly impressive. Once I got wifi up and initiated some > > downloads, it doubled to 24µs, much like the value Andy got. When I started > > up firefox and selected youtube, I got a single value of 400µs, though. > > > > A complaint I have is that there was no sound in the default installation. > > The 400µs I like to speculate may be associated with the failed attempt to > > perform the respective initialisations. > > > > Another complaint is that the image is not stable when it comes to > > updates. I was curious on the effect that the installation of KDE would > > have on the latencies, and if the missing sound would install with it. So I > > installed the package "task-desktop-kde" with debfoster. That ruined the > > reboot since the expected kernel image was no longer found. I made a > > screenshot with my phone and send it to whoever is interested, but my hunch > > is that Rod's new image if depending more on Debian's installation will > > likely solve such inconsistency issues. > > > > Do we have any latency tools that would run without X, so we get a > > baseline of what software layer is costing us how much? I recall that we do > > but latency-test at least does not. I am asking since the latency-sensitive > > gaming industry should have some strong incentive to look into what we are > > doing but I have not seen too much from them, yet. Ok - this may be > > something for another thread. > > > > Best, > > Steffen > > > > > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 04:15 Uhr > > > Von: "Rob M" > > > An: "EMC developers" > > > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - > > first impressions > > > > > > Umm Rod Old Mate was referring to the my linked images for the RPi4, not > > > your ones, the ones I built for other reasons. > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 1:26 PM Rod Webster > > wrote: > > > > > > > >None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in the > > file > > > > > > > > Well yes they are. Andy and Steffan are using pi5 variant of my image > > which > > > > is used for the 2.9.1 release from here: > > > > > > > > > >
[Emc-developers] Linuxcnc 2.10pre with glade
Hi guy's Houston I have a problem... I project to use the mesa 5i25T instead off the 5i25 ( was good for me) For the I need at list the linuxcnc2.10pre version I had customized the gmoccapy interface (gmoccapy.glade) to get some other functionality and work also on the bin file of it After few hours of work... I get the suprise to had made all of this stuff on the 2.8 version of linuxcnc. I said " ok lets spend again a part of your life time again...". So I decided to merge to the buster version and install linuxcnc from the biuldbot. Linuxcnc2.10pre and the mesa 5i25T working fine. So 2nd step was to make the same modification on the gmoccapy interface and I get a terrible headache. Python need to be version 3 instead off 2 for linuxcnc2.8 but ok no problem for that ( or maybe there is a script to merge python 2 to 3?) For Glade I had installed v3.40 and no way to get the hal library and gladevcp. Is it possible to get the right way to update gmoccapy on linuxcnc 2.10pre??? Thanks for your help Cordialement, Moustapha Elhima ELMO - machines outils +33 6 09 99 21 97 P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - first impressions
Steffen, Some good feedback thanks. I'm really not surprised things broke on an update because we compile the kernel from the Raspberry sources at a specific point in the commit tree. It's not a generic Debian build by any means. LIkewise installing a different desktop is also asking for trouble. Having no sound is also not surprising because in the absence of an audio jack you are dependent on HDMI and I know other SBC's have issues with HDMI sound. If someone has a solution please let me know Please bear in mind that this image is over 6 weeks old and there have been several kernel releases and countless commits to the raspberry pi kernel since then. But for me, the main thing is that it's only in the last few days that the kernel version and the PREEMPT_RT patch align perfectly so I am hoping my next version is more robust. That has never happened in the life of the pi5 before. To test latency on the console, you can install the debian rt-tests package. I have found that our latency-histogram yields similar results. I don't think a single 400 usec spike when opening a browser is of concern. Thats not something you do when running a gcode program. Hopefully I will have some peace and quiet over the weekend to build a new version. Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network www.vehiclemods.net.au On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 21:58, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers < emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Heya, > > Not only that we have a RPi4/5 confusion, you managed to add a Rod/b one. > > So, the image Andy pointed to (which I understand has its roots with Rod) > works very nicely. While idle latencies did not exceed 12µs, mostly below > 10. That was truly impressive. Once I got wifi up and initiated some > downloads, it doubled to 24µs, much like the value Andy got. When I started > up firefox and selected youtube, I got a single value of 400µs, though. > > A complaint I have is that there was no sound in the default installation. > The 400µs I like to speculate may be associated with the failed attempt to > perform the respective initialisations. > > Another complaint is that the image is not stable when it comes to > updates. I was curious on the effect that the installation of KDE would > have on the latencies, and if the missing sound would install with it. So I > installed the package "task-desktop-kde" with debfoster. That ruined the > reboot since the expected kernel image was no longer found. I made a > screenshot with my phone and send it to whoever is interested, but my hunch > is that Rod's new image if depending more on Debian's installation will > likely solve such inconsistency issues. > > Do we have any latency tools that would run without X, so we get a > baseline of what software layer is costing us how much? I recall that we do > but latency-test at least does not. I am asking since the latency-sensitive > gaming industry should have some strong incentive to look into what we are > doing but I have not seen too much from them, yet. Ok - this may be > something for another thread. > > Best, > Steffen > > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 04:15 Uhr > > Von: "Rob M" > > An: "EMC developers" > > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - > first impressions > > > > Umm Rod Old Mate was referring to the my linked images for the RPi4, not > > your ones, the ones I built for other reasons. > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 1:26 PM Rod Webster > wrote: > > > > > >None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in the > file > > > > > > Well yes they are. Andy and Steffan are using pi5 variant of my image > which > > > is used for the 2.9.1 release from here: > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_q0Ra-27ZDOhquvq179beUZQNVlex1f/view?usp=sharing > > > Filename (with rpi-5 in it): > > > rpi-5-debian-bookworm-6.1.61-rt15-arm64-ext4-2023-11-17-1520.img.xz > > > It was built for the Pi 5's BCM2712 board. > > > Username: cnc Password: cnc > > > to finalise the installation (wifi, password , locale etc) type: sudo > > > menu-config > > > > > > If the screen resolution is not right, it should be able to be fixed > with > > > a parameter in one of the pi's config files. > > > > > > I have just completed and tested a 2.9.2 installer for X86 on Debian > 12.4. > > > I managed to bypass the raspberry-firmware installation bug in earlier > > > versions (Inherited from Debian) > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nw0dGt5aZXVo8k68lLf4N_nzc0wTczAg/view?usp=sharing > > > I will also rebuild the images for the Pi4 and Pi5, but I am kernelled > out > > > for today! > > > > > > Rod Webster > > > *1300 896 832* > > > +61 435 765 611 > > > Vehicle Modifications Network > > > www.vehiclemods.net.au > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 12:00, Rob M wrote: > > > > > > > None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in the > file > > > > name would made the obvious, but as this a
Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - first impressions
Heya, Not only that we have a RPi4/5 confusion, you managed to add a Rod/b one. So, the image Andy pointed to (which I understand has its roots with Rod) works very nicely. While idle latencies did not exceed 12µs, mostly below 10. That was truly impressive. Once I got wifi up and initiated some downloads, it doubled to 24µs, much like the value Andy got. When I started up firefox and selected youtube, I got a single value of 400µs, though. A complaint I have is that there was no sound in the default installation. The 400µs I like to speculate may be associated with the failed attempt to perform the respective initialisations. Another complaint is that the image is not stable when it comes to updates. I was curious on the effect that the installation of KDE would have on the latencies, and if the missing sound would install with it. So I installed the package "task-desktop-kde" with debfoster. That ruined the reboot since the expected kernel image was no longer found. I made a screenshot with my phone and send it to whoever is interested, but my hunch is that Rod's new image if depending more on Debian's installation will likely solve such inconsistency issues. Do we have any latency tools that would run without X, so we get a baseline of what software layer is costing us how much? I recall that we do but latency-test at least does not. I am asking since the latency-sensitive gaming industry should have some strong incentive to look into what we are doing but I have not seen too much from them, yet. Ok - this may be something for another thread. Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 04:15 Uhr > Von: "Rob M" > An: "EMC developers" > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - > first impressions > > Umm Rod Old Mate was referring to the my linked images for the RPi4, not > your ones, the ones I built for other reasons. > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 1:26 PM Rod Webster wrote: > > > >None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in the file > > > > Well yes they are. Andy and Steffan are using pi5 variant of my image which > > is used for the 2.9.1 release from here: > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_q0Ra-27ZDOhquvq179beUZQNVlex1f/view?usp=sharing > > Filename (with rpi-5 in it): > > rpi-5-debian-bookworm-6.1.61-rt15-arm64-ext4-2023-11-17-1520.img.xz > > It was built for the Pi 5's BCM2712 board. > > Username: cnc Password: cnc > > to finalise the installation (wifi, password , locale etc) type: sudo > > menu-config > > > > If the screen resolution is not right, it should be able to be fixed with > > a parameter in one of the pi's config files. > > > > I have just completed and tested a 2.9.2 installer for X86 on Debian 12.4. > > I managed to bypass the raspberry-firmware installation bug in earlier > > versions (Inherited from Debian) > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nw0dGt5aZXVo8k68lLf4N_nzc0wTczAg/view?usp=sharing > > I will also rebuild the images for the Pi4 and Pi5, but I am kernelled out > > for today! > > > > Rod Webster > > *1300 896 832* > > +61 435 765 611 > > Vehicle Modifications Network > > www.vehiclemods.net.au > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 12:00, Rob M wrote: > > > > > None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in the file > > > name would made the obvious, but as this a topic about the 4 I guess > > there > > > could be some confusion. > > > > > > As for the recent RPi5 image you tried does that have any issues with > > > screen resolution? Is it stuck on a single resolution? Does it detect the > > > display it's attached to ? These issues, as mentioned previously, a game > > > stopper for myself. If they aren't an issue could you say what > > > kind-brand-model display you're using ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023, 11:40 andy pugh, wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 00:27, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Andy's image was a success - I just did not know the passwords. > > > > > > > > I mentioned it in a previous message, but it is cnc / cnc > > > > > > > > -- > > > > atp > > > > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > > > > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > > > > lunatics." > > > > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > >
