Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:36:59 + (UTC) Zing z...@fastmail.fm wrote: What makes you think these same users won't then also edit and enable rawhide at this point? It's not much of a stretch to think these seemingly innocent users might see this rawhide package, install, and then also enable it; in fact, ISTM, a package that they don't have that promises some type of newest whizbang gadgets that they're missing out on might entice more of this class of user. :( Because it won't be on the live media that many of the install from, or the default groups that would be choosen from the dvd install. Which is more likely: 1. I am going to enable all the repos I can, oh look, something called rawhide is already here. I'll just enable it. 2. I am going to enable all the repos I can, ok. Now I am going to randomly look through the almost 19,000 packages for some that might have repo files to enable. Might I suggest: $ chattr +i /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo just kidding, well, half-kidding :) I don't want to lock rawhide in a cabinet in the basement with a 'beware of leopard' sign on it. I just don't want it to be in the same packet of stuff that everyone who comes into the store gets by default. ;) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Meeting Summary/logs for (20100108) FESCo meeting
Full logs at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-08/fesco.2010-01-08-16.59.html http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-08/fesco.2010-01-08-16.59.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-08/fesco.2010-01-08-16.59.log.html Meeting started by nirik at 16:59:54 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary init process (nirik, 17:00:27) New Chair (nirik, 17:04:53) Meeting time (nirik, 17:06:52) AGREED: Will try and come up with a better time/day for meeting and announce it early next week. (nirik, 17:12:38) #298 Revoke Paul Johnsons pacakger access and put him on probation. - (nirik, 17:13:54) #278 Better Hostname - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname (nirik, 17:15:19) #299 Feature: AtSpiTwo - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AtSpiTwo (nirik, 17:19:11) AGREED: The AtSpiTwo feature is accepted. (nirik, 17:21:55) https://labs.codethink.co.uk/index.php/p/qt-atspi2/ (Kevin_Kofler, 17:22:05) (the Qt implementation) (Kevin_Kofler, 17:22:08) #300 Feature: BetterWebcamSupportF13 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupportF13 (nirik, 17:22:27) AGREED: The BetterWebcamSupportF13 feature is approved. (nirik, 17:25:18) #291: Man pages Packaging Guideline (nirik, 17:26:01) Open Floor (nirik, 17:28:20) #225 Bugzilla 484855 - Mediawiki Fedora-only patch (nirik, 17:39:23) AGREED: ajax will take a look at the issue for FESCo (nirik, 17:52:03) Open Floor (again) (nirik, 17:54:35) http://whenisgood.net/fesco-meeting (cwickert, 18:01:17) Meeting ended at 18:36:29 UTC (full logs). kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum-presto and comps
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:42:06 +0100 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Jens Petersen wrote: In F12 we shipped yum-presto in @gnome-desktop - a kind of a compromise I guess. Presto/deltarpm is very useful for machines with low net connectivity to mirrors but enough resources to rebuild rpms. But yum-presto is not a desktop package at all and certainly does not belong in the gnome-desktop group. [1] +1 In fact, we voted in FESCo that it should be added to one of the base groups instead (@base, I guess). It makes no sense to have it in @gnome-desktop nor in the KDE .ks file (which is where it is at the moment – for KDE, it's in the .ks because we refused to add it to @kde-desktop as it has nothing to do with KDE). I guess I would be fine with it being in @base or something. We can always - it in the Xfce kickstart or any other spin that doesn't want it by default. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:28:59 + Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote: You must do a lot more Fedora user support than I do; is it really a frequent occurrence that users unwittingly enable Rawhide and screw up their systems? Not a criticism, I'm just surprised it happens at all. Yeah, I would say we get about 1 person a week or so in #fedora that decided they wanted as many choices as possible, so they enabled every repo file they had installed. I guess it's sometimes more, sometimes less. Maybe the problem could be solved just by labelling it clearer, rawhide-development or something. Currently it says: # These packages are untested and still under development. This # repository is used for development of new releases. # # This repository can see significant daily turnover and major # functionality changes which cause unexpected problems with other # development packages. Please use these packages if you want to work # with the Fedora developers by testing these new development packages. # # fedora-test-l...@redhat.com is available as a discussion forum for # testing and troubleshooting for development packages in conjunction # with new test releases. # # More information is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing # # Reproducible and reportable issues should be filed at # http://bugzilla.redhat.com/. However, the people who enable all repos (including source and debuginfo) aren't the ones who would stop doing that after reading most anything I don't think. They want everything enabled so they can have the most choice/newest stuff, and then are very sad when they find out they have to re-install to go back to the stable release. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:24:05 +0100 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: You propose that the repo should be enabled by default if the package is installed. I don't like this. This make it a lot easier to break a system with Rawhide, if one installs the repo file, e.g. only to be able to easily download the src.rpm files with yumdownloader or to query it with repoquery, but not to actually install the unsigned packages from it. How many folks do this? I suppose this is a downside... we could also ship it with default disabled, so you would need to install and then enable it. It will probably also auto break systems that just install everything, which is also not nice. I don't think it's possible to 'install everything'. There are a number of packages in the collection that conflict. Or do you have some other meaning for 'everything'? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20100108) FESCo meeting
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (noon EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Welcome New members - Adam Jackson, Christoph Wickert, Peter Jones and Matthew Garrett Farewells to departing members - Jon Stanley, Dan Horák, Jarod Wilson, and David Woodhouse Elect New Chair #298 Revoke Paul Johnsons pacakger access and put him on probation. #278 Better Hostname - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname #299 Feature: AtSpiTwo - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AtSpiTwo #300 Feature: BetterWebcamSupportF13 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupportF13 Open Floor For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. Kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-05
Argh. It looks like some or all of the spec files in this run were from an old checkout I had instead of the new one. ;( I'm going to run a clean checkout and re-run the checker now, so expect a more up to date output in a few days. ;( Sorry about this folks. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
PLEASE READ THIS FIRST: Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-05
Argh. It looks like some or all of the spec files in this run were from an old checkout I had instead of the new one. ;( I'm going to run a clean checkout and re-run the checker now, so expect a more up to date output in a few days. ;( Sorry about this folks. Please wait for the new output... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage
Greetings. I'd like to propose splitting out the /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo file into a fedora-release-rawhide subpackage which is NOT installed by default or shipped on the live media. I wrote up this using the Feature template, but I don't guess it's really that much of a feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RawhideRepoSubpackage (except in that it needs coordination across the distro and docs updates, etc). Thoughts? (either here or the talk page of the above wiki link). Thanks, kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: qstat conflicts
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:57:31 +0200 Andy Shevchenko andy.shevche...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Does Fedora dead? I have submit new qstat packages and filed bugs against applications which are using its [qstat] old binary name. There were several weeks when qstat update on hold due to bug #533777 Should we obsolete blocking pacakge(s)? So, qstat is changing names, you filed bugs on any of the packages that are using the old name to update and they haven't yet done so? Are you waiting for them to update before pushing the new qstat? Perhaps the maintainer could use some more co-maintainers to help, or no longer wishes to maintain the package. Have you tried a direct email to them? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit?
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:54:13 + Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote: -- Start Rootkit Hunter Scan -- Warning: Network TCP port 47107 is being used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird-3.0/thunderbird-bin. Possible rootkit: T0rn Use the 'lsof -i' or 'netstat -an' command to check this. Results of lsof -i' and 'netstat -an' http://fpaste.org/xOOO/ This is a false positive. basically it saw that something was using port 47107, which is used by a known rootkit. It then printed a warning for you to check it. Likely thunderbird just happened to be using that tranisitory port when the check was run. If you re-run it now does it show ok? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit? SOLVED
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:31:30 -0500 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: _Most_ of the time. Despite some people including me, asking about /usr/sbin/unhide, one of fedora's forensic tools if I read the manpage correctly, no one has managed to come up with a way to add that file to the rkhunter database as a legit file. So we get at least 2 emails a day mewling about it. More trouble than its worth if it isn't going to be supported any better than that. asking about? I don't see a bug in bugzilla on it can you file one and attach the message you get to it? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit? SOLVED
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:57:20 -0500 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: When I asked about it Kevin, F10 was under active support for another 2 or 3 months, now it is not, so why waste our time? I built rkhunter from the latest tarball, and that still didn't fix it. Well, I am just trying to find out where you asked about it. I would have been happy to try and address it in a bug. If it was on this list, then I missed it, and would suggest you file issues as bugs to make sure I see them. Thanks, kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming Fedora IRC Classes - 2010-01-04
Happy new year! We have 3 classes coming up this week: Date and Time (UTC) Class topic and Instructor 2010-01-06 -- 1500 UTC Packaging Sugar Activities -- SebastianDziallas 2010-01-07 -- 0200 UTC Basic Troubleshooting of Fedora problems -- KevinFenzi 2010-01-07 -- 1500 UTC Ambassadors tips and training -- MaxSpevack I hope you will join us for one or several of these classes. Please see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information on the Fedora IRC Classroom, including how to sign up to teach a class or attend classes. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:48:43 -0500 Randy Yates ya...@ieee.org wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? ...snip... I suggest some possible approaches for you: - If someone is upsetting you or not providing the info you seek, tell them that you don't think they are helping you, and /ignore them. - If you find yourself getting frustrated or upset, step away from the channel for a while and do something relaxing. - Try another support channel and see if that more matches your needs. This mailing list or the forums may match your needs better than IRC. See more ideas at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Maximizing_Support_from_IRC I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have helped me: http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm Have you considered joining up with the docs team? Have a good New Year! You too! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
rpms/fontforge/devel fontforge-20090923-rel-path.patch, NONE, 1.1 fontforge.spec, 1.48, 1.49
Author: kevin
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontforge/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29629
Modified Files:
fontforge.spec
Added Files:
fontforge-20090923-rel-path.patch
Log Message:
Add patch to fix relative paths for fontlint (fixes #530760)
fontforge-20090923-rel-path.patch:
fsys.c | 21 +++--
1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
--- NEW FILE fontforge-20090923-rel-path.patch ---
diff -Nur fontforge-20090923.orig/gutils/fsys.c fontforge-20090923/gutils/fsys.c
--- fontforge-20090923.orig/gutils/fsys.c 2009-01-25 11:06:49.0
-0700
+++ fontforge-20090923/gutils/fsys.c2009-12-31 09:59:54.0 -0700
@@ -41,6 +41,15 @@
static char dirname_[1024];
+static void savestrcpy(char *dest,const char *src) {
+forever {
+ *dest = *src;
+ if ( *dest=='\0' )
+break;
+ ++dest; ++src;
+}
+}
+
char *GFileGetAbsoluteName(char *name, char *result, int rsiz) {
/* result may be the same as name */
char buffer[1000];
@@ -62,13 +71,13 @@
if ( *spt=='/' ) ++spt;
for ( pt = spt; *pt!='\0' *pt!='/'; ++pt );
if ( pt==spt ) /* Found // in a path spec, reduce to / (we've*/
- strcpy(spt,pt); /* skipped past the :// of the machine name) */
- else if ( pt==spt+1 spt[0]=='.' )/* Noop */
- strcpy(spt,pt);
- else if ( pt==spt+2 spt[0]=='.' spt[1]=='.' ) {
+ savestrcpy(spt,spt+1); /* skipped past the :// of the machine
name) */
+else if ( pt==spt+1 spt[0]=='.' ) { /* Noop */
+ savestrcpy(spt,spt+2);
+} else if ( pt==spt+2 spt[0]=='.' spt[1]=='.' ) {
for ( bpt=spt-2 ; bptrpt *bpt!='/'; --bpt );
if ( bpt=rpt *bpt=='/' ) {
- strcpy(bpt,pt);
+savestrcpy(bpt,pt);
spt = bpt;
} else {
rpt = pt;
@@ -99,7 +108,7 @@
if ( dir==NULL || *dir=='\0' ) {
if ( strlen( fname )size-1 ) /* valgrind didn't like my
strncpies but this complication makes it happy */
- strcpy(buffer,fname);
+savestrcpy(buffer,fname);
else {
strncpy(buffer,fname,size-1);
buffer[size-1]='\0';
Index: fontforge.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontforge/devel/fontforge.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.48
retrieving revision 1.49
diff -u -p -r1.48 -r1.49
--- fontforge.spec 8 Nov 2009 18:37:27 - 1.48
+++ fontforge.spec 1 Jan 2010 04:23:06 - 1.49
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
Name: fontforge
Version:20090923
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:Outline and bitmap font editor
Group: Applications/Publishing
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ Source1:fontforge.desktop
Source2:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/fontforge/fontforge_htdocs-%{docs_version}.tar.bz2
Source3:fontforge.xml
Patch1: fontforge-20090224-pythondl.patch
+Patch2:fontforge-20090923-rel-path.patch
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
Requires: xdg-utils
@@ -57,6 +58,7 @@ to compile applications against fontforg
%setup -q -n %{name}-%{version}
%patch1 -p1
+%patch2 -p1
mkdir htdocs
tar xjf %{SOURCE2} -C htdocs
@@ -147,6 +149,9 @@ update-mime-database %{_datadir}/mime
%{_libdir}/pkgconfig/*.pc
%changelog
+* Wed Dec 30 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 20090923-2
+- Add patch to fix relative paths for fontlint (fixes #530760)
+
* Sun Nov 01 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 20090923-1
- Upgrade to 20090923
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Re: RAID 1 Mismatches
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:41:53 -0800 Rick Wagner rjwgn...@verizon.net wrote: I have three disks in my system, divided into a mix of RAID-1 and RAID-5 partitions. I have /boot as a RAID-1 on MD0 (SDA1, SDB1), / as RAID-1 on MD1 (SDA2, SDB2), and the remainder as RAID-5 with LVM (SDA3, SDB3, SDC3). The intent is that for boot and root, if SDA fails, I can boot off SDB. Every week I get an Anacron job 'cron.weekly' e-mail telling of: WARNING: mismatch_cnt is not 0 on /dev/md1. If I look at /sys/block/md1/md/mismatch_cnt, I will see a number, usually 128, sometimes 64. If I manually invoke a scan, I will see the same number. Note that neither MD0 or MD3 report any errors. If I set SDB1 bad, then remove then re-add it, it will rebuild fine, and a scan shows no errors. Scanning the messages (current and historical), I see no reports of medium errors reported for any of SD[ABC]. I have several questions: 1) Where can the errors be coming from? I would understand if a drive were reporting errors. Could it be during boot, one of the R-1 members is being written too before MD is started? This warning means that there are blocks that are not identical between your raid drives, in free space. 2) Sans drive errors messages, how to determine which drive is out of sync. I have resynced SDA2 to SDB2, but that is basically a coin flip; if SDB2 were correct, then I may have damaged files on SDA2. How can I determine where the mismatches occur, and then determine the file(s) potentially affected? No need to. Just ask it to run a repair. echo repair /sys/block/md#/md/sync_action then another check: echo check /sys/block/md#/md/sync_action kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming Fedora IRC Classes for the week of 2009-12-28
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: Date and Time (UTC) Class topic and Instructor 2010-01-06 -- 1500 UTC Packaging Sugar Activities -- SebastianDziallas 2010-01-07 -- 0200 UTCBasic Troubleshooting of Fedora problems -- KevinFenzi 2010-01-07 -- 1500 UTC Ambassadors tips and training -- MaxSpevack We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover this? Trying it in a gnome desktop? :) Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, groovy Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause problems moving forward. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora mailing list handles signed email incorrectly
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:10:37 -0500 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote: Problem All the fedora mail lists are not handling domain keys and dkim signed mail correctly. You mean all the ones from the redhat.com mailman? This should not apply to the lists on lists.fedoraproject.org... The mail list leaves the original signatures but breaks the headers thereby making the signature fail. ...snip... See: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DKIM When all the @redhat.com lists move over to lists.fedoraproject.org we will be using mailman 2.1.9, which strips out the DKIM sigs. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Koji stuck?
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:02:24 + Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I kicked off a couple of builds last night which appear stuck on koji. I had checked they build locally with a make mockbuild before submitting and all was fine. The builds are: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=147755 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=147756 Should I just cancel and resubmit, or? I've seen this same thing in some other emacs packages builds. Something just causes them to get stuck. ;( I guess I would say try canceling and re-submitting, if that doesn't work, try a local mock and see if you can see where it's getting stuck. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: kernel/accounting question ...
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:23:49 -0400 William W. Austin waus...@speakeasy.net wrote: (I know that this question might be more reasonable on a kernel list, but a while back I posted the question twice and got no answers.) Possibly because the system you are sending email from thinks it's 2006, so many people wouldn't notice your old post if they are sorting by date? snip question Fix your date and try the kernel list again? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 XFCE spin on eeepc 901
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:19:33 -0500 fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Hi gang! I've got F12 (gnome) on my 901, but now that the LXDE spin has been reissued I thought I'd try the live-cd-on-a-usb-stick method to see how I like it. ...snip... how does booting a live-cd-on-a-usb-stick actually work? How is it SUPPOSED to work? I've got 2 or more gigs of persistence here, so it should be possible to install a kernel and have it boot. but I can't figure it out. clues appreciated. TIA. You cannot replace the kernel or base items like that using the persistence on the live usb. Sorry. You will need to install, upgrade your kernel and then install the modules you want. BTW, your subject line is a bit misleading here... I see no mention of Xfce. ;) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new webkitgtk incremental release for F12
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:02:04 -0800 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:38 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: There is currently a new incremental release to webkitgtk (the current release in F12 is 1.1.15-3, latest is 1.1.15-4) and I wanted to shoot out to the list to find out if there is anything that would need a new build against webkitgtk if I were to build the latest as a potential stable update for F12 (possibly pywebkitgtk and/or $other?). I've done a scratch build and tested with Midori which has been a positive experience so far, so if there are any other alternative web browsers that use webkitgtk they should work as well against the new build, but testing is always best. Isn't the Epiphany in F12 the webkit version? Yep. I think kazehakase may use it too, but not 100% sure. And I think quite a lot of bits of GNOME use webkit for HTML rendering these days. A quick-n-dirty check gives: [ad...@adam Download]$ repoquery --whatrequires ...snip... Note that this update does not change ABI. It's a stable bugfix release only... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming Fedora IRC CLass
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-12-08 02:00 UTC How to report bugs to the Fedora Project - Kevin Fenzi Note that this is This evening in North America. We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Proposed F13 feature: drop separate updates repository
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:27:17 +0100 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 12/02/2009 05:09 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Matthew Booth (mbo...@redhat.com) said: The separate updates directory has been a pain for as long as I've been using RHL/Fedora Core/Fedora. It means you have two places to look when searching for packages manually, and twice as much to configure when you're configuring yum. It has never benefitted me, or anybody I know, but it has caught me out on any number of occasions. What's more, nobody really seems to know why it's like that: it seems it's always been that way, and nobody ever bother to fix it. So lets fix it. The package set at release time is only interesting to historians. If any of them are really that bothered, I'm sure somebody can come up with a yum module which finds the oldest available version of a package in a repo. The separate Everything tree that does not get obsoleted is required in some form for GPL compliance, with respect to the ISO images that we ship. Isn't this the Fedora repo? To my knowledge the Fedora repos corresponds 1:1 to the isos. To the DVD iso, yes. To any of the spins/desktop/live... nope. They use packages from Everything/ kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rkhunter warning after updating
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:09:26 +0100 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I updated my f10 this week-end (last update before f10 desappearing...) and today rkhunter sends these warnings: Warning: Application 'exim', version '4.69', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.9', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'httpd', version '2.2.11', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'named', version '9.5.2', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8g', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'php', version '5.2.9', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'sshd', version '5.1p1', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. ??? What can I do else? Upgrade to f12? I don't want to do this now. Are f10 packages so obsolete? Disable the application checks. I am going to likely push out a new rkhunter package that does this soon. The problem is that upstream pushes out a dat file with the versions of those packages that are up to date and proof against known security issues. Fedora often backports fixes for stable releases, so the version isn't very good as an indicator when you are safe or not. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rkhunter warning after updating
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:24:11 + Andy Blanchard zoc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure that disabling the application checks is the best approach. There is a mechanism in rkhunter.conf to whitelist specific applications (APP_WHITELIST), either by name or name and version. I'd rather know about it when things change, so I've put the version numbers in as well since it's a quick update if and when Fedora updates the release instead of back-porting patches. The line in my rkhunter.conf on F11 is as follows: APP_WHITELIST=gpg:1.4.0 httpd:2.2.13 named:9.6.1 sshd:5.2p1 You'd need to adapt the version numbers per Fedora release of course (or forego them entirely) but IMHO it's still preferable to disabling the application checks entirely. Sure, that works fine if you are willing to keep up to date on security updates on those applications and update your config each time one changes in fedora. For the out of box package that would result in pushing an update to rkhunter anytime any of those updated and there could be lag between the updates and when someone applied the rkhunter one. I fear it would lead to more confusion... But sure, if you want to maintain a list locally, feel free. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming IRC Classroom Session for the week of 2009-11-23
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Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:38:49 +0100 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, some Fedora users just pointed me out that the x86 DVD image names are not accurate. The install DVD is called Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso while the live DVD is called Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso. Please note the i386 text in the install DVD file name. This is creating some confusion among users because they tend to believe that packages are still compiled for i386 and not for i686. Yeah, everything was supposed to be 'i386' for f12. i386 in this case meaning 32 bit. ;( I agree this causes confusion... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Session for the week of 2009-11-23
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-12-08 02:00 UTC How to report bugs to the Fedora Project - Kevin Fenzi We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Also, last week we had 2 Classes. Transcripts are now available on the above page for those who were unable to attend. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming IRC Class tomorrow! (2009-11-17)
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-11-17 14:00 Dan Walsh - Secure Virtualization sVirt Note that this is in the morning in North America, just before the F12 release. (Use 'date -u' to see your current time and date in UTC). Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see lots of folks there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upcoming IRC Class tomorrow! (2009-11-17)
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:32:02 +1030 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:34 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-11-17 14:00 Dan Walsh - Secure Virtualization sVirt Note that this is in the morning in North America, just before the F12 release. (Use 'date -u' to see your current time and date in UTC). This is confusing. Are you saying that time is a UTC time? Yes. All Classroom times are in UTC. Use 'date -u' to see your current time in UTC. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Broken dependencies: wqy-zenhei-fonts
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:16:05 -0600 Qianqian Fang fan...@gmail.com wrote: hi I received broken dependencies warnings from build robot for all 3 wqy fonts. I am wondering if this needs me to do anything to fix. I used the spec template for single font for these packages. I don't see sh explicitly called in the spec file. Please let me know. thanks. Ignore these emails. ppc is becoming a secondary arch in f13, and the script isn't setup to cope, so it sent emails to every maintainer about every package. Qianqian kevin -- -- Forwarded message -- From: build...@fedoraproject.org Date: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM Subject: Broken dependencies: wqy-zenhei-fonts To: wqy-zenhei-fonts-ow...@fedoraproject.org wqy-zenhei-fonts has broken dependencies in the development tree: On ppc: wqy-zenhei-fonts-0.8.38-3.fc12.noarch requires /bin/sh wqy-zenhei-fonts-0.8.38-3.fc12.noarch requires /bin/sh On ppc64: wqy-zenhei-fonts-0.8.38-3.fc12.noarch requires /bin/sh wqy-zenhei-fonts-0.8.38-3.fc12.noarch requires /bin/sh Please resolve this as soon as possible. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
FESCO meeting summary - 2009-11-13
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2009-11-13) === Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-13/fesco.2009-11-13-17.00.log.html Meeting summary --- * ticket 263 - Sponsorship request: hubbitus (nirik, 17:03:47) * AGREED: ticket 263 is rejected for now. (nirik, 17:06:41) * ticket 268 - Proven packager request - Daniel Drake (nirik, 17:06:54) * AGREED: ticket 268 is approved. (nirik, 17:08:13) * ticket 269 - Request to approve mether a sponsor for package maintainers (nirik, 17:08:34) * AGREED: ticket 269 is rejected for now, please do some more detailed reviews and come back in a while. (nirik, 17:11:24) * ticket 270 - FESCO topic proposal - preupgrade and F-12 (nirik, 17:11:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Preupgrade (jlaska, 17:36:27) * AGREED: preupgrade plan is approved. (nirik, 17:39:01) * ticket 41 - SystemTap Static Probes - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapStaticProbes (nirik, 17:42:06) * back to preupgrade talk (nirik, 17:45:38) * ticket 41 - SystemTap Static Probes - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapStaticProbes (nirik, 17:47:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Features/SystemtapStaticProbesdiff=113907oldid=99276 (nirik, 17:49:46) * AGREED: SystemTap Static Probes feature is approved for F13 (nirik, 17:51:18) * ticket 260 - SIP Witch Domain Telephony - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SIP_Witch_Domain_Telephony (nirik, 17:51:36) * AGREED: the SIP Witch Domain Telephony Feature is approved for F13. (nirik, 17:55:00) * ticket 271 - Automatic Print Driver installation - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutomaticPrintDriverInstallation (nirik, 17:55:22) * AGREED: Automatic Print Driver installation feature is approved for F13 (nirik, 18:02:20) * ticket 272 - Intellij IDEA - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IntelliJ_IDEA (nirik, 18:02:35) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/ (Kevin_Kofler, 18:08:14) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.jsp#openSource seems to indicate that its for open source developers only (dgilmore, 18:10:44) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/nextversion/free_java_ide.html (dgilmore, 18:12:05) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/company/press/pr_151009.html (Kevin_Kofler, 18:12:15) * AGREED: the Intellij IDEA Feature is deffered until next week for more info from the feature owner. (nirik, 18:15:34) * ticket 273 - Python 3 F13 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python3F13 (nirik, 18:15:51) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Python3 (dmalcolm, 18:20:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Python3#Python_modules_for_non-standard_runtimes in fact (dmalcolm, 18:21:03) * AGREED: Python 3 F13 feature is approved for F13 (nirik, 18:25:59) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:26:06) Meeting ended at 18:37:11 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * nirik (123) * Kevin_Kofler (92) * wwoods (83) * j-rod (55) * skvidal (46) * dgilmore (31) * jlaska (27) * dmalcolm (19) * zodbot (16) * sharkcz (16) * Oxf13 (14) * oget (7) * tibbs (6) * abadger1999 (5) * jrb (4) * thomasj (4) * jwb (3) * muep_ (2) * smooge (1) * cebbert (1) * dwmw2 (0) * jds2001 (0) * notting (0) signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora 12 test machine for package maintainers
Greetings. I have updated my test machine resources for Fedora package maintainers with a new Fedora 12 instance: abraxas.scrye.com or f12-test.scrye.com. As always you can see the full list and get more info at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers Please feel free to use the new instance to test bugs, build packages or otherwise anything Fedora related that will assist you. Enjoy. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 test machine for package maintainers
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:32:12 +0100 Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: At first thank you for your offering of the test machines. Unfortunately, I'm searching a ppc64 system where I can make a su for testing an odd issue with gnu-smalltalk. Unfortunately, this issue only happes on ppc64 systems. On ppc32 it's works fine. this is the reason why I'm search such system. The bombadil.infradead.org system is unusable for me, because I can't do a su or sudo on this system. It may be nice, if we can have a ppc64 test machine in the future. Yeah, if someone would like to send me one, I would be happy to set it up and maintain it. ;) Otherwise, perhaps someone else will see your plea here and help you out. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora IRC Classroom - logs from todays class and listing of upcoming classes
Greetings. For those of you who missed it, logs are available for todays Class on How to monitor PR for a release. You can find full logs at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Nov_10_.2820091110.29 I look forward to seeing everyone for the upcoming classes we have: Date and Time (UTC) Class topic and Instructor 2009-11-16 00:00 Kevin Fenzi - E-mail: server types; transport agents; spam and configuration. 2009-11-17 14:00 Dan Walsh - Secure Virtualization sVirt More information and up to date listings are at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Upcoming_Classes Enjoy. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: source file audit - 2009-11-01
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:38:38 -0600 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:06:14 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:57:42 -0600 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 17:18:16 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. bruno:BADURL:glest_data_3.2.1.zip:glest-data I took over glest recently and hadn't had to worry about where the sources had come from yet. The next time I make a change I'll be sure to make sure that the source URLs are accurate. Excellent. Thanks. I tried grabbing http://dl.sf.net/glest/glest_data_3.2.1.zip and it seemed to work. The actual URL in the spec file has the %version macro. Is the macro or something with sourceforge the problem? It's sourceforge. I use 'spectool -g foo.spec', which expands all the macros... Here's what my script said for that spec: --2009-11-01 17:16:41-- http://dl.sf.net/glest/glest_data_3.2.1.zip Resolving dl.sf.net... 128.101.240.209, 150.65.7.130, 198.142.1.17, ... Connecting to dl.sf.net|128.101.240.209|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2009-11-01 17:16:42 ERROR 404: Not Found. Sadly, I think sf is just unreliable. ;( kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rpms/fontforge/devel sources, 1.27, 1.28 .cvsignore, 1.27, 1.28 fontforge.spec, 1.47, 1.48
Author: kevin
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontforge/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16185
Modified Files:
sources .cvsignore fontforge.spec
Log Message:
Upgrade to 20090923
Index: sources
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RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontforge/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.27
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diff -u -p -r1.27 -r1.28
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@@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
-3f4ff2d2dab200f47595bff38baa13ca fontforge_full-20090622.tar.bz2
-db6003b077e9fe6b9ba1d9f64dbe3569 fontforge_htdocs-20090622.tar.bz2
+ea9d8dc38de79235fbe6add725b38ffe fontforge_full-20090923.tar.bz2
+8979b8b38e3653c452dbe310f17a996d fontforge_htdocs-20090914.tar.bz2
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-fontforge_full-20090622.tar.bz2
-fontforge_htdocs-20090622.tar.bz2
+fontforge_full-20090923.tar.bz2
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+++ fontforge.spec 8 Nov 2009 18:37:27 - 1.48
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
%{!?python_sitearch: %global python_sitearch %(%{__python} -c from
distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print get_python_lib(1))}
-%global docs_version 20090622
+%global docs_version 20090914
%global gettext_package FontForge
Name: fontforge
-Version:20090622
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:20090923
+Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Outline and bitmap font editor
Group: Applications/Publishing
@@ -147,6 +147,9 @@ update-mime-database %{_datadir}/mime
%{_libdir}/pkgconfig/*.pc
%changelog
+* Sun Nov 01 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 20090923-1
+- Upgrade to 20090923
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* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 20090622-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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Re: No nightly builds?
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:51:51 +0100 Joshua C. joshua...@googlemail.com wrote: By the way, for how long are these builds going to exist? I see in the log directory that the fisrt build should have been *-20090811, which is not that long ago. Are these builds going to be canceled once f12 goes master or at a later point? Only the current days image is kept. Logs are kept forever. Once rawhide composes from f13, they will be f13 daily images. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Addition to the Policy for non responsive maintainers
Greetings. FESCo has made an additional 'fast track' process for non responsive maintainers available for some rare cases. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers#Fast_Track_procedure for more details. See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/251 for more discussion. As well as: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-09-18/fedora-meeting.2009-09-18-16.59.log.html#l-31 For the meeting discussion. Sorry for the delay in writing this up and announcing it. We have enacted a new process that should update the wiki and make announcements like these whenever policy is changed. thanks, kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
source file audit - 2009-11-01
Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. - There are 932 lines in this run. Down from 1060 last run. 700 sourcecheck-20070826.txt 620 sourcecheck-20070917.txt 561 sourcecheck-20071017.txt 775 sourcecheck-20080206.txt 685 sourcecheck-20080214.txt 674 sourcecheck-20080301.txt 666 sourcecheck-20080401.txt 660 sourcecheck-20080501.txt 642 sourcecheck-20080603.txt 649 sourcecheck-20080705.txt 662 sourcecheck-20080801.txt 912 sourcecheck-20081114.txt 884 sourcecheck-20090215.txt 1060 sourcecheck-20090810.txt 932 sourcecheck-20091101.txt You can find the results file at: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/sourcecheck/sourcecheck-20091101.txt And also attached to this mail. Lines in the output are of three forms: - BADURL:base-file-name:$PACKAGENAME This means that the URI provided in the Source(s) line didn't result in a download of the source. This could be any of: URL changed, version changed and URL wasn't updated, Site is down, Site is gone, etc. Also there are a number of packages with incorrect sourceforge links. (BTW, there are still some packages with ftp://people.redhat.com/ URLs). - BADSOURCE:$SOURCENAME:$PACKAGENAME This means that the source was downloaded ok from the upstream site, but doesn't match the md5sum given in the sources file. This could be due to needing to strip out content that fedora cannot ship (but in that case you shouldn't have the full URI in the Source line). Or upstream following poor release practices and updating without changing their release. - BAD_CVS_SOURCE:$SOURCENAME:$PACKAGENAME This means that the file was downloaded from the URI given, and the md5sum did not match the file thats present in CVS (not the lookaside). This might be due to timestamps, or any of the above reasons. kevin -- rmeggins:BADURL:389-ds-base-1.2.4.tar.bz2:389-ds-base jmoskovc:BADURL:abrt-0.0.10.tar.gz:abrt bkearney:BADURL:ace-0.0.7.tar.gz:ace spot:BADURL:acetoneiso_2.1.1.tar.gz:AcetoneISO2 nim:BADSOURCE:Tribun-Std.zip:adf-tribun-fonts jussilehtola:BADURL:agedu-r8642.tar.gz:agedu ruben:BADURL:Ajaxterm-0.10.tar.gz:Ajaxterm pcheung:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:ant-1.7.1.pom:ant tagoh:BADURL:anthy-9100h.tar.gz:anthy dwmw2:BADURL:apmud-1.0.0.tgz:apmud athimm:BADURL:apt-0.5.15lorg3.95.git416.tar.bz2:apt sherry151:BADSOURCE:archmage-0.2.4.tar.gz:archmage athimm:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:RiceBSD.doc:arpack than:BADURL:arts-1.5.10.tar.bz2:arts jstanley:BADSOURCE:asyropoulos_-_Asana_Math.otf:asana-math-fonts chrisw:BADURL:asciidoc-8.4.5.tar.gz:asciidoc spot:BADURL:asymptote-1.88.src.tgz:asymptote mschwendt:BADURL:audacious-plugin-fc-0.4.tar.bz2:audacious-plugin-fc tmraz:BADURL:authconfig-5.4.13.tar.bz2:authconfig pwouters:BADURL:autotrust-0.3.1.tar.gz:autotrust sindrepb:BADURL:avant-window-navigator-0.3.2.tar.gz:avant-window-navigator tnorth:BADSOURCE:gcc-core-4.3.3.tar.bz2:avr-gcc phuang:BADURL:awn-extras-applets-0.3.2.2.tar.gz:awn-extras-applets abompard:BADURL:awstats-6.9.tar.gz:awstats bjensen:BADURL:ax25-tools.tar.gz:ax25-tools overholt:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:backport-util-concurrent-3.1.pom:backport-util-concurrent ixs:BADURL:bacula-3.0.3.tar.gz:bacula ixs:BADURL:bacula-docs-3.0.3.tar.bz2:bacula zkota:BADURL:bazaar_1.4.2.tar.gz:bazaar zkota:BADURL:bazaar-doc_1.4.tar.gz:bazaar satyak:BADSOURCE:beacon-0.5.tar.gz:beacon danken:BADURL:bidiv-1.5.tgz:bidiv peter:BADSOURCE:bios_extract-17ca1c5e6a8df6b5663e899504d197862c286d1e.tar.bz2:bios_extract jskala:BADURL:bltk-1.0.9.tar.gz:bltk akahl:BADURL:bmpx-0.40.14.tar.bz2:bmpx rrakus:BADSOURCE:netkit-bootparamd-0.17.tar.gz:bootparamd langel:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:bcprov-jdk16-1.43.pom:bouncycastle oget:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:bcmail-jdk16-1.43.pom:bouncycastle-mail oget:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:bctsp-jdk16-1.43.pom:bouncycastle-tsp fab:BADURL:bournal-1.3.tar.gz:bournal mattdm:BADURL:calc-2.12.2.1.tar.gz:calc nomis80:BADURL:camstream-0.26.3.tar.gz:camstream rrelyea:BADSOURCE:ccid-1.3.9.tar.bz2:ccid pbrobinson:BADURL:ccss-0.5.0.tar.gz:ccss hubbitus:BADURL:ccze-0.2.1.tar.gz:ccze mmahut:BADSOURCE:cdk.tar.gz:cdk edhill:BADSOURCE:cdo.pdf:cdo edhill:BADSOURCE:cdo_refcard.pdf:cdo steve:BADURL:celestia-1.5.1.tar.gz:celestia sheltren:BADURL:cfengine-2.2.10.tar.gz:cfengine gilboa:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:cgdb.png:cgdb jortel:BADSOURCE:chameleon-0.2.tar.gz:chameleon dwalsh:BADURL:checkpolicy-2.0.19.tgz:checkpolicy pali:BADURL:cherokee-0.99.24.tar.gz:cherokee trasher:BADURL:childsplay-1.4.tgz:childsplay herlo:BADSOURCE:2bc.zip:chisholm-to-be-continued-fonts athimm:BADURL:chrpath-0.13.tar.gz:chrpath fnasser:BADSOURCE:inetlib-1.1.1.tar.gz:classpathx-mail jmrcpn:BADSOURCE:clement-2.1.320.tar.gz:clement walters:BADURL:clojure_20090320.zip:clojure sergiopr:BADURL:cloudy_v07_02_01.tar.gz:cloudy beekhof:BADSOURCE:b79635605337.tar.bz2:cluster-glue itamarjp:BADURL:clutter-gst-0.10.0.tar.bz2:clutter-gst orphan:BADURL:cluttermm-0.9.4.20090907git.tar.bz2:cluttermm rjones:BADURL:coccinelle-0.1.10.tgz:coccinelle
Re: Claudio Tomasoni is now MIA
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:45:10 +0100 Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: This is a follow-up to my mail from October 9th [1] As per unresponsive package maintainer policy, Claudio is now officially considered missing in action and his packages [2] will be orphaned. I can ack this per the procedure as a FESCo member. I am going to orphan those packages now. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora IRC Classroom upcoming class
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-11-16 00:00 Kevin Fenzi - E-mail: server types; transport agents; spam and configuration Note that this is in the evening in North America. (Use 'date -u' to see your current time and date in UTC). This is right before the Fedora 12 release day, so it would be great to have a few more classess on the 15th and 16. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see lots of folks there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How up-to-date are the nightly-compose builds?
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:11:38 +0100 Joshua C. joshua...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/10/31 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:07:27 +0100, Currently they are building using things tagged f12-final. Is there some place where I can download a nightly builds of the current rawhide, not just the f12-final tagged ones? No. Currently the devel branch (things with a dist tag of .fc13) aren't being composed anywhere. That will change when f12 releases. Things that are built into the F-12 branch with a dist tag of .fc12 are not added to rawhide until the maintainer requests and is granted a f12-final tag. Things that are not tagged are not added to the compose. Things that don't request a tag now will possibly go out as updates after f12 is released (up to the maintainer). Hope that makes sense. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:47:50 -0600 Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: ...snip... I just rebuilt: ...snip... xfconf-4.6.1-4.fc12 - added missing BRs Wow. I didn't know this was still an issue. I thought I fixed this long ago. ;( Thanks very much for fixing it! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Are packages w/o necessary kernel modules allowed?
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Then our opions diverge: I think it should be a hard show stopper criterion. There should not be any room for any cripple ware in Fedora nor should Fedora be a stage for closed source loaders. I think I agree. This is just like shipping a package with an intentionally missing dependency. We wouldn't allow shipping yum if rpm were missing, right? this sounds the same to me. So, how about some other cases instead of just kmods: - Client apps that are free and acceptable for fedora, but a server app that is not. EXAMPLE: mpd (in rpmfusion) and all the various mpd clients that are all in fedora. - Library app thats free, but only non free things link against it so far. EXAMPLE: libvdpau - Package that is free an interfaces with a non free server's data: EXAMPLE: dbxml-perl - Package that is free, but the kernel part of it's currently not working (although planned to be back and great work is being done on it): EXAMPLE: xen - Package that is free and acceptable for fedora, but requires a non free service to function: EXAMPLE: perl-Net-Amazon-EC2 Where does the black and white line come in here? Or is it shades of grey? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: strange issue with XFCE spin LiveCD
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: ...snip... None of the suggestions in the wiki has worked. Note that I can not install F11 (because I can not get in with the LiveCD). It comes up fine, but the button for automatic login is not clickable and freezes my machine. Here again are the details for the hardware: should I file in bugzilla? Under what component? Dell Precision Workstation T7400 nSeries ...snip... 512MB PCIe x16 ATI Fire GL V7700, Dual Monitor DVI capable You specifically tried these: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#radeon-misc-gfx You can try also booting with: 'xdriver=vesa' and see if it helps any. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Distro Summit 2010: call for papers extended until 18 Oct 2009
Forwarding this to the list for Martin, who isn't subscribed. Please reply to him, not me with any comments. kevin From: martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Subject: Distro Summit 2010: call for papers extended until 18 Oct 2009 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:05:05 +0200 Reply-To: c...@distrosummit.org Please redistribute this call for papers. The deadline has been extended to 18 Oct 2009. === CALL FOR PAPERS === Distro Summit 2010 is a one-day technical conference with a strong focus on collaboration between Free Software distributions hosted at the linux.conf.au 2010. We are looking for proposals from any Free Software distribution, from the typical full distributions (both linux and non-linux) to the niche market derivatives. In spite of the strong focus on collaboration between Free Software distributions, topics may include packaging, maintenance, relationship with upstream developers, release management and QA. For more informtion, please visit: http://distrosummit.org. Important dates === * Call for papers ends: Wednesday 18 October 2009 * Announcing the schedule: Friday 2 October 2009 * Conference begins: Monday 18 January 2010 Presentation types == We will accept proposals for: * 25 minute standard-length presentations; * 50 minute long presentations. Session lengths include time for audience questions. We intend for standard-length presentation to make up the vast majority of our presentations. If you plan on submitting a proposal for a long presentation, a willingness to present a standard-length presentation will impact positively on your proposal. Submit a proposal = To submit your proposal, we'll need the following information: * Your name, contact details and a short biography; * Your proposal title; * Intended audience; * An abstract; * Presentation outline; * Presentation type (standard-length or long). To submit a proposal, or get more information, please write to c...@distrosummit.org. Unfortunately, we cannot offer sponsorship for speakers. About the Distro Summit === The Distro Summit 2010 is a one-day developer conference with a strong focus on collaboration between free software distributions hosted at the linux.conf.au 2010 (http://www.lca2010.org.nz). In addition to a schedule of technical, social and policy talks, the Distro Summit provides an opportunity for developers, contributors and other interested people to meet in person and work together more closely. Previous similar events have featured speakers from around the world. They have also been extremely beneficial for developing key free software software components and for improving collaboration and sharing between the different distributions. Target Audience === The Distro Summit is (mainly) a technical event, but this does not mean that the only target audience are developers and maintainers of free software distributions: the event will feature talks that range from the development to real-world use cases, going through marketing and the social aspects of the maintenance of free software distributions. -- Martin Krafft on the behalf of the Distro Summit organizers signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: strange issue with XFCE spin LiveCD
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:25:37 + (GMT) Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I have been trying to install the 64-bit version of the XFCE spin from the live install on my shiny new Dell Precision using the T7700 processor (dual quad-core, 16GB RAM) and have been running into one strange problem. The LiveCD cranks up, and after numerous statements on sector errors, comes up seemingly fine. However it freezes when I click (or hit return) on Automatic Login. My first thoughts on the CD being bad are negated perhaps(?) by the fact that the CD boots and installs fine (without any apparent) hitch on another 64-bit Thinkpad T-61 (dual-core 4GB RAM). Any suggestions on how to figure out what is going on? How can I get around this freeze of LiveCD install problem? What video card do you have in the problem machine? Try the section for your video card from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Hardware-related_issues and see if any of those help? I wonder if it could be the cd reader on that machine as well? Do you have a usb key? You could put the live on the usb and boot from it if so to rule that out. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:35:33 -0700 John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... The current FESCo might also want to consider taking more of a leadership role in monitoring the release processes, tracking the schedule, and evaluating the quality of the release under development and our ability to release on time. As the group responsible for guiding the technical direction of our releases I think this is something they should be more involved in. I'd be glad to help gather data they might need to do this and there might be others who would be willing to help too. I would love to. Can you show me the 28 hour days so I have some extra hours? :) Seriously tho, I think many of the FESCo folks _DO_ stay involved in lots of things, some of them might not be as visible as people think they would be. Or did you mean at some higher level? I'm suggesting more proactive leadership from FESCo and clear initiatives to take Fedora to the next level versus only being responsible for approving features, proven packagers, and policy matters. This is also my vision for the Fedora Board. I think move involvement wherever we can get it great, but I don't think we should try and force people to do X hours of work on Y. Also, if we want to require fesco and/or the board to be more involved and proactive, we should note these requirements for the next election. A possible idea for the next cycle: - Wait until we have the list of approved features. - Divide them up amoung fesco and have a 'point contact' for each that is a fesco member. - Each member is responsible for testing/tracking/talking to the feature owner and getting them what they need to get things done as well as knowing if something is not ready/etc. I don't know how feasible this is given the large list of features however. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: no tiling managers for fedora :(
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:31:41 + (UTC) Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: I saw that real hard core bigger linux geeks that I know almost all use some kind od tiled window manager on their arch and debian boxes It looks like it is the rage amongst real hard core geeks. I looked and saw that there is no awesome and no ion3 in fedora repos so I can't even try them out :( awesome is under review, and some folks there have repos you can use to install/test the package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452427 ion has a license that is unacceptable for Fedora and will never be available in Fedora unless it's license has a radical change. There is also 'xmonad' which is already available in the fedora repos. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora IRC Classoom session coming up (2009-09-29 at 1:00 UTC)
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-09-29 01:00 UTC Upcoming Fedora 12 Features overview -- Kevin Fenzi Note that this is tonight in the evening in North America. (Use 'date -u' to see your current time and date in UTC). We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see lots of folks there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Non-responsive maintainer process for kurzawa / Krzysztof Kurzawski
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:57:10 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Aloas, On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 07:01:21PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: I want to start the non-responsive maintainer process for Krzysztof Kurzawski, because youtube-dl was not updated for several releases and there was not response to bug reports regarding this. I will use this bug to track my contacting attempts: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496593 On 2009-07-21 I already wrote a mail to youtube-dl-owner and suggested to take over youtube-dl, but I did not receive any response. If you know Krzysztof, please ping him. a week has passed, so this is the second attempt to reach Krzysztof. The following packages have been orphaned: gfeed greyhounds incollector netmonitor pic2aa scythia wavextract xhotkeys yoltia youtube-dl Also, I would be happy to take 'greyhounds'. Co-maintainers welcome. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: sound on Fedora 11 XFCE spin (all machines)
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I have installed the official Fedora 11 XFCE spin on three machines (IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T61, Dell Precision 650, Dell GPX 270) but sound works on none of them. I have looked around quite a bit using release notes to no avail. I have also gone into alsamixer and unmuted and increased the volume of everything in sight! Still no luck! Is there a place to read and understand what is going on, and how to fix it? This can not be a hardware issue: The Thinkpad is a 64-bit system and the others are 32-bit. All sound worked very well up to and including Fedora 10. (And I much preferred the three-tone sound of system-config-sound, by the way...) Any help is much appreciated! Try the suggestions at: http://fedorasolved.org/Members/fenris02/pulseaudio-fixes-and-workarounds kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: current live CD builds entirely broken
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:52:44 +0200 Ralf Ertzinger fed...@camperquake.de wrote: Hi. ...snip... Do you have kexec-tools in the spin/buildroot? If you do, does it work without it? kexec-tools is not installed on the machine that composes the nightly spins. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Session for the week of 2009-09-21
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-09-29 01:00 UTC Upcoming Fedora 12 Features overview -- Kevin Fenzi We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:43:44 +0300 Jonathan Dieter jdie...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... I have access to i586 and x86_64 systems, but no PPC systems. Could someone either give me access to a PPC system or verify themselves whether xz generates different files on different architectures (all other things being equal). Feel free to use my ppc32 test machine for any tests you need: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers Jonathan kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Session for the week of 2009-09-14
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-09-29 01:00 UTC Upcoming Fedora 12 Features overview -- Kevin Fenzi We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:45:21 -0400 Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/10/2009 12:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: spot:BADSOURCE:chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip:oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts Not sure why this failed. I confirmed that the .zip file available from the site is identical to the one in the lookaside. Cute. My download worked, but I got in the zip file: [chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip] End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive. zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip or chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip.zip, and cannot find chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Booklett er_1.zip.ZIP, period. So, some weirdness with the upstream ftp/http server I guess. spot:BADSOURCE:daa2iso.zip:daa2iso Fixed (I have begged the upstream here to put versioning in their name, but they will not) spot:BADSOURCE:perltex.zip:tetex-perltex This package is probably going away with texlive, so I'm just letting it sit. spot:BADSOURCE:ql2400_fw.bin:ql2400-firmware spot:BADSOURCE:ql2500_fw.bin:ql2500-firmware Updated to the latest versions of the firmware. spot:BADURL:Acetoneiso_2.0.3.2.tar.gz:AcetoneISO2 This checks out for me. spot:BADURL:alsamixergui-0.9.0rc1-2.tar.gz:alsamixergui Upstream is gone. I've updated the package to reflect that. spot:BADURL:amanith_03.tar.gz:amanith Upstream no longer maintains this code, updated package to reflect that. spot:BADURL:Class-DBI-Loader-Relationship-1.3.tar.gz:perl-Class-DBI-Loader-Relationship Fixed. spot:BADURL:ebtables-v2.0.9-1.tar.gz:ebtables Fixed. spot:BADURL:giver-0.1.8.tar.gz:giver Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. spot:BADURL:google-perftools-1.3.tar.gz:google-perftools Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. Yeah, these are both googlecode, which was giving me 404's when I ran the script. ;( spot:BADURL:gxemul-0.4.7.2.tar.gz:gxemul Fixed. spot:BADURL:mcrypt-2.6.8.tar.gz:mcrypt Took me several tries to get this to work, but it is correct. Sourceforge seems to be especially flaky these days. yes it does. ;( spot:BADURL:musiqwik_musisync_y6.zip:allgeyer-fonts Upstream is gone, removed URL from Source. spot:BADURL:pdsh-2.18.tar.bz2:pdsh Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. SF gave me a 404: --15:54:01-- http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pdsh/pdsh-2.18.tar.bz2 Resolving dl.sourceforge.net... 128.101.240.209, 150.65.7.130, 193.1.219.87, ... Connecting to dl.sourceforge.net|128.101.240.209|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 15:55:14 ERROR 404: Not Found. spot:BADURL:Pod-POM-0.18.tar.gz:perl-Pod-POM Fixed. spot:BADURL:pydot-1.0.2.tar.gz:pydot Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. Googlecode. spot:BADURL:pyke-1.0.2.tar.gz:pyke Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. Sourceforge. ;( spot:BADURL:python-twitter-0.6.tar.gz:python-twitter Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. googlecode. spot:BADURL:RODBC_1.2-5.tar.gz:R-RODBC Fixed. spot:BADURL:rx-1.5.tar.bz2:librx FSF no longer maintains or offers this code, dropped URL from Source0. spot:BADURL:Test-Differences-0.4801.tar.gz:perl-Test-Differences Fixed. spot:BADURL:winpdb-1.4.6.tar.gz:winpdb Looks fine to me, can't reproduce failure. googlecode. spot:BADURL:XML-RSS-1.44.tar.gz:perl-XML-RSS Fixed. spot:BADURL:zlib.tar.gz:tcl-zlib Been waiting more than a year now for upstream to revive his website (he swears he's going to do it everytime I email him, but I have given up). Removed URL from Source. :( *** Thanks for running this. No problem ~spot kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:47:54 +0200 Christof Damian chris...@damian.net wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 18:15, Kevin Fenzike...@scrye.com wrote: cdamian:BADURL:wikicalendar-1.15.tar.gz:mediawiki-wikicalendar Just checked this one and it works. Probably was a temporary problem with googlecode . yep. ;( googlecode and SF seem to both sometimes sporadically just not work. Christof kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Session for the week of 2009-08-17
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-08-19 01:00 UTC An Introduction to the command line -- Kevin Fenzi We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:32:29 +0300 Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi wrote: On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Kevin Fenzi wrote: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/sourcecheck/sourcecheck It doesn't seem to process https sources, only http and ftp. Is that an oversight? Yes. ;( Fixed for the next run. ;( kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:37:40 +0200 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi, This was run against Rawhide right? Yes. bochecha:BADURL:adonthell-0.3.5.tar.gz:adonthell Fixed in Rawhide (at least after the freeze is lifted). erikos:BADSOURCE:sugar-base-0.85.2.tar.bz2:sugar-base This is a development release. As per the roadmap, 0.85.3 should be out pretty soon [1]. I'll just let this one like this, it will be fixed by the end of August when one of us updates the package. ok. Up to you... Thanks for the reminder, that's a great help in keeping the Fedora repositories a bit saner! :) No problem. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
source file audit - 2009-08-10
Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. - There are 1060 lines in this run. Up from 884 last run. 700 sourcecheck-20070826.txt 620 sourcecheck-20070917.txt 561 sourcecheck-20071017.txt 775 sourcecheck-20080206.txt 685 sourcecheck-20080214.txt 674 sourcecheck-20080301.txt 666 sourcecheck-20080401.txt 660 sourcecheck-20080501.txt 642 sourcecheck-20080603.txt 649 sourcecheck-20080705.txt 662 sourcecheck-20080801.txt 912 sourcecheck-20081114.txt 884 sourcecheck-20090215.txt 1060 sourcecheck-20090810.txt You can find the results file at: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/sourcecheck/sourcecheck-20090810.txt And also attached to this mail. Lines in the output are of three forms: - BADURL:base-file-name:$PACKAGENAME This means that the URI provided in the Source(s) line didn't result in a download of the source. This could be any of: URL changed, version changed and URL wasn't updated, Site is down, Site is gone, etc. Also there are a number of packages with incorrect sourceforge links. (BTW, there are still some packages with ftp://people.redhat.com/ URLs). - BADSOURCE:$SOURCENAME:$PACKAGENAME This means that the source was downloaded ok from the upstream site, but doesn't match the md5sum given in the sources file. This could be due to needing to strip out content that fedora cannot ship (but in that case you shouldn't have the full URI in the Source line). Or upstream following poor release practices and updating without changing their release. - BAD_CVS_SOURCE:$SOURCENAME:$PACKAGENAME This means that the file was downloaded from the URI given, and the md5sum did not match the file thats present in CVS (not the lookaside). This might be due to timestamps, or any of the above reasons. kevin -- abbot:BADURL:mitter-0.4.3.tar.gz:mitter abbot:BADURL:protobuf-2.0.2.tar.bz2:protobuf abompard:BADSOURCE:cryptopp560.zip:cryptopp abompard:BADSOURCE:pure-ftpd-1.0.22.tar.bz2:pure-ftpd abompard:BADURL:awstats-6.9.tar.gz:awstats abompard:BADURL:Comet_Catcher_Redux.sd7:spring-maps-default abompard:BADURL:glest_data_3.2.1.zip:glest-data abompard:BADURL:psi-0.13.tar.bz2:psi abompard:BADURL:Sands_of_War_v2.sd7:spring-maps-default abompard:BADURL:SmallDivide.sd7:spring-maps-default adalloz:BADURL:pan-0.133.tar.bz2:pan adrian:BADURL:gmpc-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-alarm-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-avahi-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-coveramazon-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-extraplaylist-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-jamendo-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-last-fm-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-libnotify-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-lirc-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-lyrics-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-lyricwiki-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-magnatune-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-mdcover-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-mserver-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-osd-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-shout-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-tagedit-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:gmpc-wikipedia-0.18.0.tar.gz:gmpc adrian:BADURL:libmpd-0.18.0.tar.gz:libmpd agoode:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:fvwm-xdg-menu.py:fvwm ajax:BADURL:vbetool-1.2.1.tar.bz2:vbetool akahl:BADURL:bmpx-0.40.14.tar.bz2:bmpx akahl:BADURL:ZendFramework-1.8.4PL1.tar.gz:php-ZendFramework akurtakov:BADSOURCE:jdepend-2.6-RHCLEAN.zip:jdepend akurtakov:BADURL:birt-source-2.5M7.zip:eclipse-birt allisson:BADURL:amora-server-1.1.tar.gz:amora allisson:BADURL:Variable-Magic-0.34.tar.gz:perl-Variable-Magic amdunn:BADURL:coq-8.2pl1.tar.gz:coq anaconda-maint:BADURL:isomd5sum-1.0.5.tar.bz2:isomd5sum andriy:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:fmio-gq-wrapper.py:fmio anithra:BADSOURCE:com.ibm.systemtapgui.src.tar.gz:eclipse-systemtapgui asheesh:BADURL:liblicense-0.8.1.tar.gz:liblicense ashokdas:BADURL:elfinfo-1.1.tar.gz:elfinfo ashokdas:BADURL:greadelf-1.0.tar.gz:greadelf athimm:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:RiceBSD.doc:arpack athimm:BADURL:apt-0.5.15lorg3.95.git416.tar.bz2:apt athimm:BADURL:chrpath-0.13.tar.gz:chrpath athimm:BADURL:fakeroot_1.12.2.tar.gz:fakeroot athimm:BADURL:greylistd_0.8.7.tar.gz:greylistd athimm:BADURL:vtkdata-5.4.2.tar.gz:vtkdata atkac:BADURL:adns-python-1.2.1.tar.gz:python-adns atkac:BADURL:mtools-4.0.10.tar.bz2:mtools atkac:BADURL:rexec-1.5.tar.gz:rsh atkac:BADURL:swig-1.3.39.tar.gz:swig atkac:BADURL:xdelta-1.1.4.tar.gz:xdelta ausil:BADSOURCE:elftoaout-2.3.tgz:elftoaout ausil:BADSOURCE:silo-1.4.13.tar.bz2:silo ausil:BADURL:mysql-gui-tools-5.0r12.tar.gz:mysql-gui-tools ausil:BADURL:pam_yubico-2.1.tar.gz:pam_yubico ausil:BADURL:snort-2.8.3.2.tar.gz:snort ausil:BADURL:ykclient-2.3.tar.gz:ykclient awjb:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:winepulse-0.29-configure.ac.patch:wine awjb:BAD_CVS_SOURCE:wmweather+-2.9.tar.gz:wmweather+ awjb:BADSOURCE:libpolyxmass-0.9.1.tar.gz:libpolyxmass awjb:BADURL:dosbox-0.73.tar.gz:dosbox awjb:BADURL:freealut-1.1.0.tar.gz:freealut awjb:BADURL:httplib2-0.4.0.tar.gz:python-httplib2
Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:07:46 +0200
Patrick MONNERAT p...@datasphere.ch wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 10:15 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Many thanks Kevin for your report.
No problem.
monnerat:BADURL:hkit-v0.5.tgz:php-hkit
I confirm the URL is OK:
Version:0.5
Source0:http://hkit.googlecode.com/files/hkit-v%{version}.tgz
-- Effective URL: http://hkit.googlecode.com/files/hkit-v0.5.tgz
Still valid and downloadable.
I thus suppose the server was not accessible at script run time.
Yeah, it seems so somehow.
Why not updating the script to log the exact failure reason and/or
retry transient connection failures after some delay? This would help
everyone finding the real problem, and limit the amount of false
negatives and overall line count growth you complain about :-)
Yes, it does log each download, I just haven't put those files up. ;)
I suppose I could so people could check them...
In this case:
--16:54:18-- http://hkit.googlecode.com/files/hkit-v0.5.tgz
Resolving hkit.googlecode.com... 209.85.225.82
Connecting to hkit.googlecode.com|209.85.225.82|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
16:54:19 ERROR 404: Not Found.
So, possibly a issue on googlecode having a outage?
Regards,
Patrick
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Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:24:01 +0300 Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:15:42AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. can one download this script somewhere to locally apply to one's packages and understand why the errors (maybe false positives) are shown? Thanks! Yes, it's in the same dir as the files: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/fedora/sourcecheck/sourcecheck Note that it's an ugly shell script. :) If someone wants to re-write it in python or something and tie it into the auto-qa efforts, feel free to do so. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Session for the week of 2009-08-10
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-08-19 01:00 UTC An Introduction to the command line -- Kevin Fenzi We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:34:26 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... Sure, and I was always happy to write in GNOME and KDE versions as 'Features' when writing release blurbs for Mandriva. But that's just pure PR. PR is not all our feature process does - it comes with all this bureaucracy, intended for dealing with experimental stuff which may turn out to have been a bad idea, attached to it, it's _not_ a pure PR exercise. Which leads to the absurdity we have here, the suggestion that the GNOME 2.28 'feature' should be 'dropped' for Fedora 12 (does anyone really think we're going to ship it with GNOME 2.26?) It wasn't a suggestion of that, it was our feature wrangler saying: hey, check these features because they are not showing 100%. Please see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy Do we need to change some policy there? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mailing list migration procedures
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:45:08 -0400 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Jon Stanley (jonstan...@gmail.com) said: I'd like some mailman experts (if we have any) to take a look at this procedure to migrate lists from redhat.com to lists.fp.o and let me know if there's something obviously missing from it or if there's some way that it can be improved. Feel free to make any edits you deem necessary. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailman_Infrastructure_SOP#Mailman_migration My concern is more procedural than infrastructural - I'd like to make sure we schedule the mass migration in such a way that it does not heavily disrupt development schedules; generally, this would mean doing it sometime after a release but before the alpha of the next release. Are we doing a mass migration? Or just migrating lists some at a time as time permits? I can see advantages/disadvantages to both ways, just wondering which we are planning. Bill kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions for the week of 2009-08-03
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley 2009-08-05 02:00 UTC Introduction to Koji (build system) and Bodhi (updates system) in Fedora infrastructure (End user perspective) -- Rahul Sundaram Last week there was a class with a tour of the Xfce desktop: 2009-07-30 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi You can find a summary of the class and a full log at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meetbot/fedora-classroom/2009-07-30/fedora-classroom.2009-07-30-01.00.html We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflicted file in update this morning?
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:30:43 -0700 Alan Evans ame.fed...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: iirc bold=going to be installed normal=updating That can't be it. Today's updates were all already installed packages. Where should users go to find out? It's in none of the docs that I can find. From my current evidence, it seems to be: bold=set to be updated normal=set to be updated, unless you're using PackageKit to do the update. I'm almost tempted to think that this is the actual meaning... man yum.conf search down for 'color'. It lists the options and what the defaults are. -Alan kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 rpm on F11 (rpmlib(PayloadIsXz))
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:00:13 +0300 Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net wrote: Hi, I want to test some features of the F12 kernel. Unfortunately rpm's format change stand in the way: ...snip... Also how do I even get F12's rpm installed, if every rpm ans so the rpm rpm itself will fail on rpmlib(PayloadIsXz)? Is there an upgrade-rpm-for-F11 available? yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update rpm\* kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FESCo meeting summary for 20090729
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:52:04 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 09:39:50PM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: 17:03:13 jds2001 #topic Raduko perl 6 17:03:16 * skvidal gives jds2001 a new 300 baud acoustic coupler to use 17:03:18 jds2001 .fesco 218 17:03:29 cwickert can I say something about this? 17:03:31 onekopaka perl 6? 17:03:35 jds2001 sure Again the log seems to be incomplete. If I type .fesco 218 in #feedora-meeting, I get this line from zodbot: | zodbot tyll: #218 (Rakudo Perl 6 - | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Rakudo_Perl_6) - FESCo - Trac - | https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/218 But the log does not contain such a line near the .fesco 218 from jds2001. I have brought this issue up to the upstream meetbot author. I suspect it's the _s in there that are confusing it. Will get it tracked down and fixed up. Regards Till kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [fedora-classroom] Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:37:21 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 23:17:36 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:50:48 -0500 Newer classes are using the irc meetbot function, and can be found at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/ This site is backed up and should be available for a long long long time. ;) I was talking about instructors who had slides or the like on their own websites, not the Fedora Classroom page. Often there aren't any, but it might be worth thinking about how to capture them on Fedora infrastructure somewhere. But then you need to worry about licensing and such. True. Many teachers are fedora contributors and have fedorapeople.org space to put such things in, but of course thats only there as long as they are active contributors. Perhaps we can look as setting aside some web space for this somewhere, or using the wiki... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 - 11
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:56:02 -0700 Lonni J Friedman netll...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Kevin Fenzike...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:42:48 -0700 Lonni J Friedman netll...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch of XFCE problems. Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known already: 0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows. At first I thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run, until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps. There is a thread on the upstream devel list about this... It's unclear to me at least what causes the issue. ;( Ugh. Does that imply that there's no solution either? Sorry to dig up an old thread here, but upstream has released a patch for this behavior that might get it working the way you expect. See: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-8073 for a f11 test update with that patch. If it works for you, please add karma there and indicate that it does. ;) thanks. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 - 11
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:15:03 -0700 Lonni J Friedman netll...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Kevin Fenzike...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:56:02 -0700 Lonni J Friedman netll...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Kevin Fenzike...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:42:48 -0700 Lonni J Friedman netll...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch of XFCE problems. Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known already: 0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows. At first I thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run, until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps. There is a thread on the upstream devel list about this... It's unclear to me at least what causes the issue. ;( Ugh. Does that imply that there's no solution either? Sorry to dig up an old thread here, but upstream has released a patch for this behavior that might get it working the way you expect. See: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-8073 for a f11 test update with that patch. If it works for you, please add karma there and indicate that it does. ;) Thanks. How or where do I get this package? I looked all over the URL you provided, and nothing points to an RPM as far as I can tell. You can look at the 'builds' link and get it direct from the build system, or way a day or so and it should show up in the 'updates-testing' repository. A link from the bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514206 explains how to install it from there via yum. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [fedora-classroom] Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:19:42 -0600 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-29 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley Sorry to followup on my own posting here, but we have another last minute class this week I would like to let everyone know about: 2009-07-29 02:00 UTC Introduction to Koji (build system) and Bodhi (updates system) in Fedora infrastructure (End user perspective) -- Rahul Sundaram I hope a bunch of folks can attend. And Of course to followup again (sigh). I got my dates mixed up. The Classes scheduled today (the 29th) are really tomorrow (on the 30th). ;( Date and Time (UTC) Class topic and Instructor 2009-07-30 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-07-30 02:00 UTC Introduction to Koji (build system) and Bodhi (updates system) in Fedora infrastructure (End user perspective) -- Rahul Sundaram Sorry for the confusion and hope folks can make it tomorrow. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [fedora-classroom] Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:50:48 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 08:16:37 +0530, Roopesh Majeti roopesh.maj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,A small quick request. Is it possible to share the presentation material [ if any, prepared ] to all, so that, whoever misses the session, can atleast, get a glance of the training. The classes get recorded and there are usually links to any external materials in the logs. Though those aren't typically archived in Fedora infrastructure as far as I have seen. So they may not be available permanently. Yes. All previous classes were archived on the wiki, you can see them on the main Classroom page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom Newer classes are using the irc meetbot function, and can be found at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/ This site is backed up and should be available for a long long long time. ;) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions - 2009-07-27
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-29 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley Last week I ran a Class on using preupgrade. You can find the log/summary of that Class at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/2009-07-21/fedora-classroom.2009-07-21-01.00.html We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [fedora-classroom] Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions - 2009-07-27
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:21:54 -0600 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-29 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley Sorry to followup on my own posting here, but we have another last minute class this week I would like to let everyone know about: 2009-07-29 02:00 UTC Introduction to Koji (build system) and Bodhi (updates system) in Fedora infrastructure (End user perspective) -- Rahul Sundaram I hope a bunch of folks can attend. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions - 2009-07-20
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-21 01:00 UTC Using Preupgrade -- Kevin Fenzi 2009-07-29 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi I hope everyone will Join me for the Preupgrade class. We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum: Cannot retrieve repository metadata for epel
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:18:25 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:45:44 -0700, Don wrote: Immediately after upgrading from Fedora 10 to 11, I did a yum update. It downloaded about 120 packages, then gave me an error message (which I'm afraid I didn't save). Now when I try a yum update I get: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. Please verify its path and try again In researching this I found some advice about switching the comments between the baseurl and mirrorlist lines in /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo, but when I do that I get: rpm --erase epel-release and in case you don't have an epel-release package installed (it's included within Fedora 11 by accident), simply delete the epel.repo file. EPEL is a repository for RHEL and/or CentOS. Additionally, there is no RHEL or CentOS 6 yet, nor a epel-release that claims to be version 6. ;) You may want to look at what installed or modified that repo file and/or package, because it's been modified from the real epel-release version. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Login scripts and startup programs for XFCE in F11
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:19:37 -0700 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have a rather odd problem. Whenever I login one of the applets in my panel fails, and tries to start over and over again. Sometimes I need to logout and log back in again to get it right. Usually it is the xfapplet. I am using the gnome clock-applet with xfapplet, so that also has this behaviour. ...snip... I am asking is, where do I look? And could there be any other possibilities that could cause this? Am I trying to troubleshoot this in the right way? This is upstream Xfce bug: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5123 So, you are not alone! ;) I would suggest adding additional info if you can gather it for that bug. They have so far been unable to isolate the bug. ;( If you would rather not register for another bugzilla to add to that bug, feel free to email me directly your info and I can add it for you. Thanks for any suggestions. PS: I am on F11 x86_64 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
rpms/fontforge/devel fontforge.spec, 1.45, 1.46 sources, 1.26, 1.27 .cvsignore, 1.26, 1.27
Author: kevin
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontforge/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv31613
Modified Files:
fontforge.spec sources .cvsignore
Log Message:
Upgrade to 20090622
Index: fontforge.spec
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@@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
%{!?python_sitearch: %global python_sitearch %(%{__python} -c from
distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print get_python_lib(1))}
-%global docs_version 20090408
+%global docs_version 20090622
%global gettext_package FontForge
Name: fontforge
-Version:20090408
+Version:20090622
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Outline and bitmap font editor
@@ -147,6 +147,9 @@ update-mime-database %{_datadir}/mime
%{_libdir}/pkgconfig/*.pc
%changelog
+* Tue Jul 16 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 20090622-1
+- Upgrade to 20090622
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* Thu Apr 16 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 20090408-1
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-5b21e4b9630a33d6a989d869178be7ca fontforge_htdocs-20090408.tar.bz2
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-fontforge_full-20090408.tar.bz2
-fontforge_htdocs-20090408.tar.bz2
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Class today In the Fedora IRC Classroom! (2009-07-12)
Due to a scheduling issue (we had 06:00UTC on the wiki, but the instructor planned to teach the class at 04:00UTC), we will have a combined class later today in the #fedora-classroom IRC Classroom. 2009-07-12 10:15 UTC Writing a Networking Driver -- Balaji Gurudass (and combined in will be content on Basics of kernel development, Kernel modules). Hope folks can make it. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: zodbot minor issue
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:06:19 -0400 Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com wrote: There's a minor issue with the supybot-based config of MeetBot. Until it can be resolved, it's important that zodbot be started with it's cwd in /srv/web/meetbot. Weird, yes. But effective at making it work :) I have reported this issue to upstream. Another workaround, if one is wanted would be to make a meetingLocalConfig.py and put the correct logDir in there. It works as expected when reading it from the config file. I'll update as upstream is able to fix this. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 - 11
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:42:48 -0700 Lonni J Friedman netll...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch of XFCE problems. Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known already: 0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows. At first I thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run, until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps. There is a thread on the upstream devel list about this... It's unclear to me at least what causes the issue. ;( What do you have for: Automatically give focus to newly started applications. and Automatically raise windows when they receive focus. In your window manager prefs? Does changing these affect the behavior? Also, do you see it only with Terminal and Thunar? Or is it everything? 1) The menu editor(xfce4-menueditor) seems to be gone entirely. Its not in the settings-manager, and there's no xfce4-menueditor binary anywhere. I did a yum search for it as well, and found nothing. That wouldn't be a big deal except that Yep. The menu handling was totally redone in 4.6, and the editor was not ready to ship. They decided that this functionality was not worth blocking the entire release on, so it's not available. ;( It should be back better and stronger in 4.8. 2) My /home/netllama/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml is completely ignored, and I'm getting a default menu with all sorts of entries that I don't want or need, and none of the entries that I do need. thanks in advance for any guidance or feedback. Take a look at: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu for info on customizing menus in 4.6. Hope that helps some. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editing menus in XFCE
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:52:02 -0700 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Is there any way to edit the applications menu in XFCE(F11)? I think I read in the release notes (or help files) that the ability to do that was removed while writing the latest XFCE and it has not been reimplemented yet. Correct. It's being worked on for the next release. See the link to the Xfce wiki posted already in this thread for info on editing the menus by hand. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:58:52 +0200 Jeroen van Meeuwen kana...@kanarip.com wrote: I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle. You can find more details at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle Kind regards, Some general comments: - Have you talked with the last folks that attempted this? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-February/msg00030.html http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dc7dcczk_2fxtsctdqhl=en - The issue I have with this plan (and the others very like it) is that if you say we will just do updates for the things we have people willing to do updates it means the entire end of life distro is not covered and the likelyhood of an outstanding security issue is quite high. There is a chicken and egg issue here where unless there is enough coverage we shouldn't do it, but we can't find out if there is enough coverage without doing it. Doing it in such a way that it fails just gives everyone a bad name and feeling, IMHO. - An indeterminate time is also bad IMHO. How can these corporations plan if they don't know how much time you are adding here? - Have you considered leveraging the 'critical path' proposal? Try and up front get enough folks to cover all the critical path packages and expand from there? - How many people are on board with this? Do you have guidelines for what will be updated or not? what packages? Version updates ok? Or only security fixes? - Are there any Corporations that specifically asked for this? Would they be willing to provide any resources to the effort? Just a few thoughts... Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:18:51 +0200 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Josh Boyer wrote: Fedora Legacy (the original one) failed. It failed because of excess bureaucracy (they didn't even trust Bugzilla's authentication, requiring GPG signing of all Bugzilla comments with impact on the procedures, and QA requirements were also unrealistic given the manpower). The last time something like this was proposed, it generated a few meetings and some discussion here and on f-a-b. I have yet to see anything actually come of that. Patrice Dumas's proposal failed because he wasn't provided with the required infrastructure (and he was unable to come up with it himself, which I can't blame him for). That was the time before last. The last one was in Feb by Scott Williams. I guess it just quietly faded out. Without a concrete group of people large enough to make this wory saying that they are signing up to do that work, I don't have high hopes for this succeeding in the long run. We'd just need some minimal infrastructure effort, one person willing to do the pushes (like you're doing for the supported releases) and everything else would be as is, if somebody wants something fixed, they'll have to push the fix, if nobody cares, it won't be fixed. It isn't supported after all. And no QA, if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces. Again, it's unsupported, that means what it means. I still think it's better than not getting any security fixes at all. I think it is worse. It causes people to have an expectation that something will get security updates, and when it doesn't happen and they get compromised, they will not be very happy. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:20:50 +0200 Jeroen van Meeuwen kana...@kanarip.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:57:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: ...snip... - The issue I have with this plan (and the others very like it) is that if you say we will just do updates for the things we have people willing to do updates it means the entire end of life distro is not covered and the likelyhood of an outstanding security issue is quite high. There is a chicken and egg issue here where unless there is enough coverage we shouldn't do it, but we can't find out if there is enough coverage without doing it. Doing it in such a way that it fails just gives everyone a bad name and feeling, IMHO. This issue depends on an if, and is thus invalid. Maybe what you wanted to say/ask is along the lines of: Are you planning on only providing updates for the packages you have maintainers for?. In that case; The question doesn't make any sense -given that the Feature page does not say only a selection of packages. To put it in understandable English: We are not going to selectively supply updates for a limited number of packages, it's either all or nothing. Great. I did read the page and didn't get that impression... The Note that the following items may only apply to those that opt-in on ELC support confused me perhaps? 6 months is our initial life cycle extension, as the page says. I feel like everyone missed that. ok. I guess I missed it too. Who am I to set the extended life cycle when various people participate...? I'm not in control! Would the period of time to extend the life cycle with not be the first agenda item at a meeting of peers interested and/or participating? I made one suggestion to start out with, 6 months, put it on the Feature page and no-one reads it. Frankly those 6 months are not set in stone -it's just a proposal for the bunch of people interested and a guideline for others -including those deciding on whether this feature is in or out. Regrettably, some of these people feel like they *are* in control, rather then providing the governance they should. Different subject though. ok. How about having a meeting and deciding that before trying to get the proposal off the ground? - How many people are on board with this? Do you have guidelines for what will be updated or not? what packages? Version updates ok? Or only security fixes? This is a lot of questions for one bullet point. I lost you half-way through. What's the actual question here? Sorry, Should have split it out. Reading it on a question-mark per question-mark basis though, I think the feature page answers half of the half-posed questions. Anyway: - a bunch fas names? Approximate number? When this comes up there is always A bunch of people who want this, but they never seem to want to sign up to do the work. Do you have such people ready to go to work? - everything that needs to be updated to ensure prolonged security fixes' availability for any given Fedora release - only security fixes - no guarantee for stable API/ABI - no guarantee for binary compatibility throughout the life cycle great. - Are there any Corporations that specifically asked for this? Would they be willing to provide any resources to the effort? The demand is there..., the offerings... not so much. Maybe there's a trick to get sponsoring for something that does not and may not exist yet because approval is pending, that I don't know about. Care to share? Well, I would say gather your group, show that there is an active group of people ready to work on this and you will have a lot less skepticism. I personally look at the last time this came up. As far as I know the group had 1 meeting, nothing ever happened. I fear you are going to have to show some great setup and activity before people are going to take this seriously. :( kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Test Machine Resources for Package Maintainers
Greetings. I have setup some machines/virtual instances here to assist maintainers that might not have access to all versions/arches Fedora runs on. Please see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers For more information on the instances, how to use them and common questions and answers. Feel free to email me with any outstanding questions you might have about the instances, and I hope they are useful. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-07-12 06:00 UTC Basics of kernel development, Kernel modules -- Balaji Gurudass 2009-07-12 10:15 UTC Writing a Networking Driver -- Balaji Gurudass 2009-07-21 01:00 UTC Using Preupgrade -- Kevin Fenzi Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is Firefox 3.5 final?
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:55:36 + (UTC) Scott Beamer geek...@angrykeyboarder.com wrote: As of this writing, I just did and update and it was nowhere to be found. ...snip... When might we see 3.5 final? The update was built today, and will likely mirror out tomorrow. Just relax and it will be there soon. ;) Thanks Anxiously yours, Scott kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:12:10 +0200 drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Richard Junerj...@bravegnuworld.com wrote: Does archetecture get exported anywhere by javascript? If so, it would provide a simple way to query the users' hardware. No. Additionally, as the websites folks have already mentioned: There is no way to know if you are downloading on the machine you are going to install on. It could be a friends, at a library, etc. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora-11 rant
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:21:23 +0100 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: ...snip... I guess the two questions I would be grateful for an answer to are: 1. Could I use the video driver from F-10 ? no. 2. Can one substitute a more basic driver for the one chosen during the installation? Yes. Install with 'xdriver=vesa' to use the vesa driver. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: EEEPC FC11 install
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:49:13 +1000 Andrew Cocker and...@cocker.id.au wrote: Hi I have had FC10 working surprisingly well as a web server for months on an Asus EeePC (Intel Atom bases mini PC) but an upgrade to FC11 failed so I have had to restart from scratch. The EeePC has no optical drive and I have tried using both a 4GB USB key and USB hard drive. I tried both livecd-tools and Unetbootin to create a bootable USB drive. In every attempt anaconda runs but after I get through the partitioning stage it creates a file system and then fails with an error message that it cannot mount the ISO source, usually /dev/sdb1. Am I doing something dumb, is there a bug? Should I try reinstalling FC10 and upgrading to FC11 instead? Does the error look anything like any of the ones at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Installation_issues All advice gratefully received. If you have another linux machine there you could setup as a PXE server, you could pxeboot the machine and net install it. ;) http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/sn-booting-from-pxe.html kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-11 rant
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:01:25 +0100 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: 2. Can one substitute a more basic driver for the one chosen during the installation? Yes. Install with 'xdriver=vesa' to use the vesa driver. This didn't seem to work for me, with kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/sda7 xdriver=vesa in grub.conf . (I was able to use the vesa driver by editing /etc/xorg.conf .) Was this a live media? There was a bug preventing xdriver= from working on live media. ;( kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
