RE: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
Yes, I do have Ellie separated from everyone else and it's breaking my heart; she's so lonely. What should I do? From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Welcome Kathi Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:17:56 -0700 Hi Kathi, Damn girl, what an emotional roller coaster ride you've had! I'm so pleased to hear that your heart cat Oreo has tested neg. You didn't make it clear, do you have Ellie separated from the others? I hope not. Imo, there's no reason to do so since everyone has been exposed to everyone else already. Glad to have you here, and glad your nightmare roommate is gone. Nina Kathi Clark wrote: Gloria, Is your Belfield's Vitamin C for human consumption or is it the Mega C Plus for cats, dogs and equine? I got Oreo as a stray. I trapped him behind the Dumpster at Kentucky Fried Chicken. What a joy he is in my life. He drags a rubber dog bone around the house and I'll find it in my bed and in his water dish. He is so happy and full of life and so intrigued with everything. I think God must have known I couldn't handle losing him to FeLV. He is truly my soulmate. My ex-roommate brought Ellie in. I said she could bring her kitten with her when she moved in. She said she'd had her tested for disease. When I moved in, I found out she hadn't. I kept begging her to get her tested. She made an appointment and then cancelled it because she didn't have the money. That was it - no concern for my 5 healthy cats. When she had Ellie spayed, I asked her to have her tested at that time. When I asked if she'd had her tested, she said, Oh yes, she's negative and they gave her a clean bill of health. When she moved out on me, I asked her to leave Ellie because Oreo and I had gotten so attached to her. I called her vet and was told she hadn't been tested. I was livid and scared. Ellie tested positive. I had my other 5 tested and to my horror, Oreo tested positive, a light positive; the other 4 were negative. I was devastated. I kept him separated from the others, had him on Mega C Plus for 3 weeks, then had him re-tested and he was negative. In the meantime, they all got upper respiratory infections except for Ellie. The vet said Ellie probably brought it in and had already dealt with it before moving in. Oreo was the only one who didn't have it as bad as the others. I attribute it to the Mega C Plus. What a nightmare my roommate was. She also almost burned down my house. That's it for roommates for a while. Kathi
Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
Sounds like you might try Ellie on the Vitamin C. Moreover, many of this group mix successfully, and you might consider that. Gloria On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Kathi Clark wrote: Yes, I do have Ellie separated from everyone else and it's breaking my heart; she's so lonely. What should I do? From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Welcome Kathi Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:17:56 -0700 Hi Kathi, Damn girl, what an emotional roller coaster ride you've had! I'm so pleased to hear that your heart cat Oreo has tested neg. You didn't make it clear, do you have Ellie separated from the others? I hope not. Imo, there's no reason to do so since everyone has been exposed to everyone else already. Glad to have you here, and glad your nightmare roommate is gone. Nina Kathi Clark wrote: Gloria, Is your Belfield's Vitamin C for human consumption or is it the Mega C Plus for cats, dogs and equine? I got Oreo as a stray. I trapped him behind the Dumpster at Kentucky Fried Chicken. What a joy he is in my life. He drags a rubber dog bone around the house and I'll find it in my bed and in his water dish. He is so happy and full of life and so intrigued with everything. I think God must have known I couldn't handle losing him to FeLV. He is truly my soulmate. My ex-roommate brought Ellie in. I said she could bring her kitten with her when she moved in. She said she'd had her tested for disease. When I moved in, I found out she hadn't. I kept begging her to get her tested. She made an appointment and then cancelled it because she didn't have the money. That was it - no concern for my 5 healthy cats. When she had Ellie spayed, I asked her to have her tested at that time. When I asked if she'd had her tested, she said, Oh yes, she's negative and they gave her a clean bill of health. When she moved out on me, I asked her to leave Ellie because Oreo and I had gotten so attached to her. I called her vet and was told she hadn't been tested. I was livid and scared. Ellie tested positive. I had my other 5 tested and to my horror, Oreo tested positive, a light positive; the other 4 were negative. I was devastated. I kept him separated from the others, had him on Mega C Plus for 3 weeks, then had him re-tested and he was negative. In the meantime, they all got upper respiratory infections except for Ellie. The vet said Ellie probably brought it in and had already dealt with it before moving in. Oreo was the only one who didn't have it as bad as the others. I attribute it to the Mega C Plus. What a nightmare my roommate was. She also almost burned down my house. That's it for roommates for a while. Kathi
RE: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
Kathi, There are mixed opinions about mixing. From what I understand, the most susceptible age groups are kittens and seniors, I didn't see if anyone other than Oreo fell into this group for you. I had to make a similar decision about my kittens (one positive, one negative)and decided to keep them together - the important thing for you about this decision is that if you keep them together and one or more turn up positive, will you be okay with that? As you can see from the board, if one does turn positive, it's not a death sentence and may not have any effect on their lives. I didn't see how long Ellie was living with the rest, but it is entirely possible that they have already been exposed and thrown it off. My negative did turn positive, but I don't regret keeping them together as they seem to have a much higher quality of life together than apart. It's not an easy decision and you will get lots of opinions - just follow your heart! Maggie
Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
As others have said, that's a call only you can make. Imho, since they've already lived together for so long, any chance of infection has already happened. I think if your other 5 were going to get felv, they would have by now. The fact that Oreo tested pos and then re-tested neg tells me that he's probably already thrown the virus and is not in any danger. The more you learn about felv, the more you'll see that it's one giant crap shoot. The safest course of action is to put Ellie to sleep, the second is to keep her separated. To me these are both unacceptable. I tend to opt for quality over quantity anyway. You'll get varying opinions about what people on the list do. One thing I can tell you, is that no matter what the outcome might have been, (none of my negs ever tested pos after living with my pos cats for 2 years), I wouldn't have been sorry about my decision. I'm learning, slowly, that I don't have the sort of control that I once thought I did. These days, I'm much better about making decisions based on everyone's quality of life, rather than trying to keep everyone as safe as possible. It's probably safer for Ellie to keep her secluded because she's more vulnerable to picking up disease from your other cats. If she's miserable though, is it worth it? What ever you decide, make peace with it and accept the consequences, be they good or bad. What else can we do? Nina Kathi Clark wrote: Yes, I do have Ellie separated from everyone else and it's breaking my heart; she's so lonely. What should I do?
Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
Amen. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do? As others have said, that's a call only you can make. Imho, since they've already lived together for so long, any chance of infection has already happened. I think if your other 5 were going to get felv, they would have by now. The fact that Oreo tested pos and then re-tested neg tells me that he's probably already thrown the virus and is not in any danger. The more you learn about felv, the more you'll see that it's one giant crap shoot. The safest course of action is to put Ellie to sleep, the second is to keep her separated. To me these are both unacceptable. I tend to opt for quality over quantity anyway. You'll get varying opinions about what people on the list do. One thing I can tell you, is that no matter what the outcome might have been, (none of my negs ever tested pos after living with my pos cats for 2 years), I wouldn't have been sorry about my decision. I'm learning, slowly, that I don't have the sort of control that I once thought I did. These days, I'm much better about making decisions based on everyone's quality of life, rather than trying to keep everyone as safe as possible. It's probably safer for Ellie to keep her secluded because she's more vulnerable to picking up disease from your other cats. If she's miserable though, is it worth it? What ever you decide, make peace with it and accept the consequences, be they good or bad. What else can we do? Nina Kathi Clark wrote: Yes, I do have Ellie separated from everyone else and it's breaking my heart; she's so lonely. What should I do? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 8/3/2006
RE: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
Having lost my precious little soul Naomi a couple of days ago, and she was only 4 months old ---quality of life means so much to me... Every day, I loved her like there is no tomorrow because I knew that time was not something we have had together.. I knew the time was running out for me to be with Naomi. unfortunately Naomi, most of the time especially towards the end of her life,, she neither had time or quality of life as she was too weak to play.. whatever she had as a illness, it could have been contagious to others.. but separating her from her brother and sister and the rest of her family was not something that I even had considered as a choise..she was and still is a part of the family no matter what.. From what I read...over 70% of cats have been exposed to the felk virus in their life time sometime.. but they still don't get infected.. felk like FIP.. it is a disease of their immune system, and not so much about the virus itself... other kitties probably have already built immune system to the virus.. I know it's a difficult decision to make and I cannot tell you what to do... I try to do everything I can in my power to protect them.. but sometimes they are not asking to be protected... they want their freedom.. even if it means it's shortening their lives... they are not afraid of death like we, human are.. they live in the moment.. and they want to be happy in the moment they live in.. they don't think of the future like we do.. and sometimes they get depressed if we try to do something to protect them from what may or may not happed in the future Hard lesson, I learned some things are better untouched...and learned to be comfortable by uncertainty.. don't be fearful of what could happen in the future... Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do? Amen. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do? As others have said, that's a call only you can make. Imho, since they've already lived together for so long, any chance of infection has already happened. I think if your other 5 were going to get felv, they would have by now. The fact that Oreo tested pos and then re-tested neg tells me that he's probably already thrown the virus and is not in any danger. The more you learn about felv, the more you'll see that it's one giant crap shoot. The safest course of action is to put Ellie to sleep, the second is to keep her separated. To me these are both unacceptable. I tend to opt for quality over quantity anyway. You'll get varying opinions about what people on the list do. One thing I can tell you, is that no matter what the outcome might have been, (none of my negs ever tested pos after living with my pos cats for 2 years), I wouldn't have been sorry about my decision. I'm learning, slowly, that I don't have the sort of control that I once thought I did. These days, I'm much better about making decisions based on everyone's quality of life, rather than trying to keep everyone as safe as possible. It's probably safer for Ellie to keep her secluded because she's more vulnerable to picking up disease from your other cats. If she's miserable though, is it worth it? What ever you decide, make peace with it and accept the consequences, be they good or bad. What else can we do? Nina Kathi Clark wrote: Yes, I do have Ellie separated from everyone else and it's breaking my heart; she's so lonely. What should I do? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 8/3/2006
Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do?
Here's my 2 cents: I never had a negative turn positive either. I always mixed mine, and they were happier for it. But again, the choice is individual, and only you can make that decision. But I agree with Nina. If your others were exposed and have not turned positive, chances are that they won't. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Ellie separated from others - what should I do? As others have said, that's a call only you can make. Imho, since they've already lived together for so long, any chance of infection has already happened. I think if your other 5 were going to get felv, they would have by now. The fact that Oreo tested pos and then re-tested neg tells me that he's probably already thrown the virus and is not in any danger. The more you learn about felv, the more you'll see that it's one giant crap shoot. The "safest" course of action is to put Ellie to sleep, the second is to keep her separated. To me these are both unacceptable. I tend to opt for quality over quantity anyway. You'll get varying opinions about what people on the list do. One thing I can tell you, is that no matter what the outcome might have been, (none of my negs ever tested pos after living with my pos cats for 2 years), I wouldn't have been sorry about my decision. I'm learning, slowly, that I don't have the sort of control that I once thought I did. These days, I'm much better about making decisions based on everyone's quality of life, rather than trying to keep everyone as "safe" as possible. It's probably "safer" for Ellie to keep her secluded because she's more vulnerable to picking up disease from your other cats. If she's miserable though, is it worth it? What ever you decide, make peace with it and accept the consequences, be they good or bad. What else can we do?NinaKathi Clark wrote: Yes, I do have Ellie separated from everyone else and it's breaking my heart; she's so lonely. What should I do?
