RE: [fibernet] Sheep Breeds in Israel
Awassi sheep http://139.78.104.1/breeds/sheep/awassi/index.htm Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Lima Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:21 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] Sheep Breeds in Israel A friend asked me to find out what sheep breeds are raised in Israel. Could anyone respond to this? He is currently making garments used in Jewish religious ceremonies - I think that has something to do with this question. Thanks if anyone can help with a response. David in Rhode Island [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] I need plying info
Thanks for giving me this word, cabling, I just plied to 2 plies together to make a drive band for my wheel. I had a soft 2 ply the was way to stretchy and fragile to use so I spun it onto the wheel (using a piece of bailer twine as a drive band) and then plied the 2 ends together. It does look very different then regular plied yarn. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Terry Chapin Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:41 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] I need plying info Plying is twisting 2 or more singles together in the direction opposite to their original spinning twist. The singles all nest together, creating a unit, especially after it's washed and all the twist softens together. Twisting a 3 ply yarn with a 2 ply (or any other combination of plied yarn twisted with another plied yarn or a single) is not plying per se, it is Cabling. The yarn created is very different. Lynn C Seattle John wrote: D2- They way I see it, you have several options. Ply all 5 at once Ply 4 together and then ply that with one. Ply 3 and 2 Ply 2, 2 and 1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] What's new?
Well now there is 3 feet of snow on the ground I am finally getting moved into my winter space. I finally got all the workshop tools moved out so I can move my wool in. The next step is to get the sled and move everything from the uninsulated summer trailer to the heated winter space. The last couple of years I moved into the living room which is limiting for me and a pain for everyone else. I hope to try out some new techniques Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Re: felting machine
Glad to hear that. They knew how to use the machine better I guess. The ones I saw had been done several weeks before and they still had the distinct and deep pattern. I think it would have had to relax back to being unfelted to get rid of them. I think they were going at it to fast and hard. It is nice to know that it will work to make felt. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nadine Chounet Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:39 AM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Re: felting machine I have a couple pieces of felt I had made out of my own wool. These were done on a mini-mills felting machine. Yes it had marks when it initially came off of the machine - but they were completely gone once the wool totally dried and relaxed. Neither piece I have has retained any of those 'waffle' marks. I have Shetlands. Later on I bought a piece from the same woman who did my felt, that was made out of 'leftovers' from her carding machine. It is gorgeous, and again no waffle marks. Nadine On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Shepherds Spring Farm wrote: h. The mini mills one has a deep pattern in the surface that leaves a pattern. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Re: felting machine
It looked smooth. The mini mills one has a deep pattern in the surface that leaves a pattern. I haven't seen it used by anyone that knows how to make felt. The place I saw it they where using the waste to felt. So they where not starting out very well. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Turan Albini Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:44 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] Re: felting machine Yes, they made their own felting table. I haven't noticed it leaving any marks on the created felt. Cheers, Turan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Re:ring spinning frame
Did you/they make your own felting machine? The only ones I've seen are the mini mills one. it was very aggressive and left a large distinct indented pattern on the felt. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Turan Albini Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:29 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] Re:ring spinning frame I work in a small mill. We do lots of different stuff because we have our own line of yarns from our own flock and then do custom stuff. We can handle a batch that is about 25 pounds. So when 200+ pounds of gorgeous Coopworth was sent us and the client had no clue besides a vague knitting yarns and told me what ever you think is best. I decided best was to give them as wide a selection as possible to experiment on. Most fun for me too. Spinning with a ring spinning frame is remarkably easy and fun if one has been hand spinning for years and are reasonably analytical. It is limited to semi worsted- worsted yarns because it drafts the fiber before it allows twist into it. It really drives home the point of how important twist is in how a finished yarn looks and feels. My last few spinning batches have been, Coopworth, bison/alpaca/wool, quivet/cormo, Shetland/Romney, western fine wool range sheep. It is never dull and always challenging. Here is a link. http://www.lambandw http://www.lambandwool.com/woolproc.htm ool.com/woolproc.htm At home I spin on my Reeves with wool from my own Corriedale crosses. Cheers, Turan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] How to get buggy critters out of sheepskins?
You can start by spraying them to kill the bugs. You need something like house and garden spray or flea spray. They all have the same ingredient. The only other thing I would say would be to go with a time release flea spray after they are cleaned. You can vacuum to get rid of the dead bugs or brush them out. Flea spray works for the wool moths too. Freezing the infested wool will kill the moths too. Hope this helps, Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of geoxena Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:27 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] How to get buggy critters out of sheepskins? Hi all, I bought three sheepskins a few years ago from a company that also sells So. American cowhides, but I'm not sure if the sheepskins are from the US or SA (I've left a message for the company so they can get back to me -- I've read that, apparently, the tanning process will make a difference in how these can be cleaned). We use them as throws on our leather couch, and have never used them for floor rugs. They're quite big with long, deep pile. Well, this is really gross, but it seems that the skins have gotten some kind of larvae in them - I've noticed a few thin white wormy-looking things about 1/2-inch long, slightly darker at one end (I'm assuming the head). I've had these skins for a couple of years now and only noticed this recently. Coincidentally, in the past few months we also have been battling moths and carpet beetles - all these buggy critters at once! I just spent about two hours vacuuming the skins thoroughly and thought maybe that was enough -- until I noticed that one of those worms/larvae had fallen out of one about 20 minutes after my husband draped it over the back of the couch. We haven't seen anything other than small white moths flying around, and these look like different kind of larvae (the ones I find in clothing are reddish). So, I'm totally grossed out -- but would prefer to have them cleaned over tossing them out. Is there anything that can be done or are they lost and beyond getting rid of these icky things?? Please note that I'm in NYC, in a 395-sq. foot walk-up apartment with a tiny sink, small tub, no kind of hose for washing, no access to clothesline, and no utility room. So, I can't do a major backyard washing and hanging. The most I've ever done with these, besides vacuuming, is to take them downstairs to the sidewalk and beat them over the curb to get the dust out. I'd like to know if I can either wash them at the laundromat, gentle cycle, with mild soap and cold water (I guess), or bring them to a dry-cleaner, although I suspect the cleaner would charge more than what I paid for the skins -- BUT I need to know how to do this and know that there is no more of these critters in the wool (don't want to bring home a clean skin full of dead bugs), and also avoid winding up with a sheepskin that's stiff as a board (in researching this, I've come across messages online from people who say this has happened to theirs). Somewhere I read that Sheepskin is dry-cleanable (A) (40) with either white spirits or perchlorethylene. I wonder if that pertains to any kind of tanning process, and if that's what I should ask the cleaner to use? Sorry this is so long. Would love some feedback or expert opinions. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[fibernet] another pest
Is there anything other than moth balls that deters mice? I am about to move my wool to a place that I know gets mice. I will put everything in plastic bins but mice have been known to chew threw them. Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] another pest
Thanks everyone I will probably just end up with mouse traps and some poison. Perhaps I will bring a cat with me sometimes when I am working. But that may be more trouble than the mice. :O) Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary K. Gloster Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:16 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] another pest Yes, mothballs do deter mice. The little buggers were always crawling into spaces in my Garden Tractor''s engine to build nests over the winter and then causing all sorts of mechanical problems when I started using it in the spring. My mechanic advised me to put mothballs in an old sock or something and put them under the hood on the engine to help keep them out. On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sara von Tresckow sa...@powercom. mailto:sarav%40powercom.net netwrote: I've never heard of using mothballs to deter mice. MOUSE TRAPS usually work best - with hard salami or peanut butter as bait. If you are storing in a barn with grain storage, rat poison spread responsibly is the best solution. Sara von Tresckow, Fond du Lac, WI sa...@powercom. mailto:sarav%40powercom.net net sarav%40powercom.net http://www.woolgath http://www.woolgatherers.com erers.com Dutch Master Loom/Spinning Chairs/Öxabäck Looms, vendors at Wisconsin Spin In -- People usually consider walking on water or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle is not to walk either on water or in thin air, but to walk on earth. Every day we are engaged in a miracle which we don't even recognize: a blue sky, white clouds, green leaves, the black, curious eyes of a child -- our own two eyes. All is a miracle. Thich Nhat Hanh Mary K. Gloster Rocky Top Farm 907 Lick Street Groton, NY 13073 607-227-4723 sheep...@rockytopfa mailto:sheepish%40rockytopfarm.com rm.com http://www.rockytop http://www.rockytopfarm.com farm.com NACFA site: http://www.clunfore http://www.clunforestsheep.org stsheep.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Re: wool properties.
Hi, wow you have a good memory. I do have a copy of it now. thanks for remembering Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of demetragayle Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:13 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] Re: wool properties. Hello-- eBAY sells that issue of National Geographic... I just googled it and eBAY came up several times. Demetra Gayle- -- In fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com, McElroy sheepfar...@... wrote: Hi all I am hoping you can help me find a source for some information that is everywhere. The info is that wool has healing and therapeutic properties. When used as mattresses, bedding, pillows, wraps for injuries and arthritis. I can find a reference to the technical institute of Wales but when contacted they remember that it was done but can't find the title or research. I was referred to Alexander Pilon and contacted someone at his email twice and was promised the information he had published years ago but for some reason it did not arrive either time. I am sure it was not intentional. Can anyone help me either with a copy of research of tiles of research or somewhere else to look? Most internet sites tell you about the wonderful properties o wool but when asked to back it up they say they got it of someone else's site. Thanks all Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower On. Canada http://shepherdsspr http://shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ ingfarm.ca/ _ From: fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com] On Behalf Of Ronald Parker Sent: September 4, 2008 9:59 AM To: fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] History note On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Jane Reid wrote: FiberNetIt would be interesting to know what that first message was. Are archives from the period still extant? Jane Jane Reid mjr...@... mailto:mjreid%40dca.ne Sorry, but I don't think I have such. The BBS at the start was run using BBS software called Searchlight that ran on IBM-DOS. Floppy and hard disks didn't hold much in those days. Ron Ron Parker - Fibernet list mom with Susanne rbpar...@swipnet. mailto:rbparker%40swipnet.se se [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Moths
You have to email her for it. it isn't listed on the site for some reason. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jane Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:14 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Moths It appears they don't carry it anymore. A few places that used to don't now. I can't find it. Jane Dear Fibernetters, I had a terrible wool moth infestation several years ago. I took care of it with a permanent mothproofing solution sold by Hill Creek Fiber Studios. Here's a link, and I believe it's sold with the dyeing supplies. You have to simmer your fiber with the powder, so you can dye at the same time if you want to. I think it works by binding with a certain molecule in the fiber so the moths no longer recognize it as food. When done properly, it doesn't change the character of the fiber at all. http://www.hillcree http://www.hillcreekfiberstudio.com kfiberstudio.comhttp://www.hillcree http://www.hillcreekfiberstudio.com kfiberstudio.com I have no commercial affiliation with Hill Creek Fiber Studios - just a satisfied customer. Haven't seen it anywhere else, and the moths have not returned. Jean Van Effen On Apr 22, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Kathleen Connell wrote: I never had moths until I got a wall hanging my mother had acquired in Africa. Disaster After pitching much wool and clothing (sheepskin coats for example) I sort of have things under control. I use the pheromone traps and keep most wool and yarn in empty cat litter containers. As we have lots of cats I have a lot of these. Brucie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Moths
A chest freezer is usually a good cheep sealed box. But that is what you want something the moths can't get through. The problem with plastic bags can be sweating. I do now that flea spray works for killing them. you can get special sprays for more but it is the same ingredient. Flea spray is cheap and easy to find in most places. I moth proof my wool as I dye it. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nina Ruit Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:29 AM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Moths Hi Jane! I put all my clean fiber into pillow cases that I get at GoodWill. then I either stitch the top closed (by hand, not by machine), or I tie it pretty tightly. I also keep those moth traps with the moth hormone out in a few places. Maybe we are just lucky, haven't had a problem. Years ago I had a problem when we lived in NJ and we did put the affected fleeces in the freezer, as Cathy has pointed out! Hope things are well with you Jane, Nina Ruit Farm North On Apr 22, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Jane Woodhouse wrote: I am trying to stay one step ahead of the moths but its not easy!!. I find eggs here and there and an occasional infestation. I have sheep and store fleeces. Any ideas. I have been checking the internet and some of what I read does not seem right. Like keeping it in a dark place to prevent moth damage. I thought moths loved dark places. I haven't had luck putting wool in a dark place. I am thinking everything clean has to go in a tightly closed plastic bag. I have also heard that zippered pillow protectors work very well. Any ideas. I have a lot of wool and mohair around here and have to find a good way to store. Jane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Moths
That's the stuff I use and I haven't had any trouble with moths in the treated fibre. Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jean.vanef...@t-online.de Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:53 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Moths Dear Fibernetters, I had a terrible wool moth infestation several years ago. I took care of it with a permanent mothproofing solution sold by Hill Creek Fiber Studios. Here's a link, and I believe it's sold with the dyeing supplies. You have to simmer your fiber with the powder, so you can dye at the same time if you want to. I think it works by binding with a certain molecule in the fiber so the moths no longer recognize it as food. When done properly, it doesn't change the character of the fiber at all. http://www.hillcree http://www.hillcreekfiberstudio.com kfiberstudio.com I have no commercial affiliation with Hill Creek Fiber Studios - just a satisfied customer. Haven't seen it anywhere else, and the moths have not returned. Jean Van Effen On Apr 22, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Kathleen Connell wrote: I never had moths until I got a wall hanging my mother had acquired in Africa. Disaster After pitching much wool and clothing (sheepskin coats for example) I sort of have things under control. I use the pheromone traps and keep most wool and yarn in empty cat litter containers. As we have lots of cats I have a lot of these. Brucie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Workshop FAQ
Will there be pictures on line anywhere so we can see too? Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mirjam Bruck-Cohen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:34 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Workshop FAQ Hallo All , i would have liked to tell you about workshops , but there aren`tany i know about here But i can tell you that on 6/6 , we will open an Exhibition , called Tefer =Seam [tefer in Hebrew is Seam as well as Stitch ] ,,, i invited the artists to go back to the basic Seam and/or relate to a Verbal expression that includes the word [ in Hebrew as in other languages there are quite some terms that include this word. mirjam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[fibernet] Off Topic, Sheep herding video
Hi here is a very cool video with some very well trained dogs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Katy Blanchard Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:12 AM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Sheep herding demo Those silly sheep made it on Countdown with Keith Olberman on MSMBC last night! Katy Blanchard Urban Eagle Design http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneagledesign.etsy.com ledesign.etsy.com http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneagleherbco.etsy.com leherbco.etsy.com http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneagle.com le.com Youngsville, New Mexico On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Nadine Chounet wrote: The parts that are real are cool. But the distance stuff is computer generated I agree - and in fact have seen the first part of this before; the set- up I will believe, but the sheep walking is pure photoshop ... though I would think that the 'pong session' (with stationary inanimate middle pieces) could be easily accomplished. Especially looking at the credits. I recognize a couple of those folks as world-class herders (at least I have a couple of books here on the shelf with their names on the spines). Makes me long for spring. We are losing snow rapidly but still have a couple of feet on the ground. Signed up for a cattle clinic (herding) March 28/29 to give both my dog and myself a season warm-up session! All she has done all winter after re-sorting the breeding groups back into their main flocks, is put in the ducks at night and that is not work! The ducks see her poke her head in the gate and they run and get into their little house. Nadine [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Off Topic, Sheep herding video
Sorry I sent that before reading my mail Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shepherds Spring Farm Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:51 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] Off Topic, Sheep herding video Hi here is a very cool video with some very well trained dogs. http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherd http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ sspringfarm.ca/ _ From: fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com] On Behalf Of Katy Blanchard Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:12 AM To: fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Sheep herding demo Those silly sheep made it on Countdown with Keith Olberman on MSMBC last night! Katy Blanchard Urban Eagle Design http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneagledesign.etsy.com ledesign.etsy.com ledesign.etsy.com http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneagleherbco.etsy.com leherbco.etsy.com leherbco.etsy.com http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneag http://www.urbaneagle.com le.com le.com Youngsville, New Mexico On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Nadine Chounet wrote: The parts that are real are cool. But the distance stuff is computer generated I agree - and in fact have seen the first part of this before; the set- up I will believe, but the sheep walking is pure photoshop ... though I would think that the 'pong session' (with stationary inanimate middle pieces) could be easily accomplished. Especially looking at the credits. I recognize a couple of those folks as world-class herders (at least I have a couple of books here on the shelf with their names on the spines). Makes me long for spring. We are losing snow rapidly but still have a couple of feet on the ground. Signed up for a cattle clinic (herding) March 28/29 to give both my dog and myself a season warm-up session! All she has done all winter after re-sorting the breeding groups back into their main flocks, is put in the ducks at night and that is not work! The ducks see her poke her head in the gate and they run and get into their little house. Nadine [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Angora fiber - felted in storage!
It is usually the dander (mites when on the animal) All animals have dander, even people. Mites are a parasite and although they can cause allergies they are not the same as dander. Dander: a thin flake of dead epidermis shed from the surface of the skin Dander is material shed from the body of various animals, similar to dandruff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandruff or pet pollen. It may contain scales of dried skin and hair, or feathers. It is a frequent cause of allergy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy in humans. Etymology: alteration of dandruff: specifically : minute scales from hair, feathers, or skin that may be allergenic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Angora fiber - felted in storage!
Sorry, I just can't agree with you that fibre animals do not shed their dead skin cells. If you have skin, scales or feathers you shed your dead outer cells. This, along with some of the natural oil, is the dander. You can be allergic to other animal's hair, although they are all keratin they can all be differentiated by species by science. _ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fiber...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dianne Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:41 AM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fibernet] Angora fiber - felted in storage! Well that all may be so, but the fact of the matter is that fiber animals don't really have what otherwise looks like dander. Angora rabbits have mites not dander and if you across flakey stuff -- you might be inclined to call it dander. But it isn't. One injection of ivomec subsutaneous and you look again and what looked like dander is all gone! And very quickly too -- usually within 24 hrs. There really is no such thing as dander (flakey skin ) in fiber animals. - Original Message - From: Shepherds Spring Farm To: fiber...@yahoogroup mailto:fibernet%40yahoogroups.com s.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: RE: [fibernet] Angora fiber - felted in storage! It is usually the dander (mites when on the animal) All animals have dander, even people. Mites are a parasite and although they can cause allergies they are not the same as dander. Dander: a thin flake of dead epidermis shed from the surface of the skin Dander is material shed from the body of various animals, similar to dandruff http://en.wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandruff .org/wiki/Dandruff or pet pollen. It may contain scales of dried skin and hair, or feathers. It is a frequent cause of allergy http://en.wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy .org/wiki/Allergy in humans. Etymology: alteration of dandruff: specifically : minute scales from hair, feathers, or skin that may be allergenic [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [fibernet] Re: New Year's Day Knit In
Wish I could come spin or felt with you but Oregon is to far away. :O( Hope you have a great day. Ann Shepherds' Spring Farm North Gower, On Canada http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ http://www.shepherdsspringfarm.ca/ From: fibernet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December-07-08 10:12 PM To: fibernet@yahoogroups.com Subject: [fibernet] Re: New Year's Day Knit In Jan Johnson (the owner of Rose and Ram Studio and Yarn Shop) and I will be hosting the New Year's Day Knit In at her shop in historic downtown Independence, OR, USA. It will start at 1 pm and go until 4 pm. I spoke with Ron at the 2 EZ cafe across the street and he has agreed to be open that day just for us. He will be serving three fresh made soups - potato leek, chicken noodle, and tomato basil, along with sandwiches and goodies. We will have hot mulled cider for all who come to join us for some knitting time while the football fanatics at home enjoy their games. 2 EZ serves hot and iced coffee drinks. Please come join us and have a lot of fun knitting in the New Year! Helen B [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:WoolSpinnr%40aol.com Bluedragon on Ravelry.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
