[Fink-devel] naive question: Why not have gcc within fink?

2005-11-18 Thread William Scott
I've been watching in horror the correspondence regarding the new gcc  
version in Xcode 2.2 and its potential impact on a bunch of fortran  
programs I maintain, smug in my realization that sloth, once again,  
is its own reward (I still have 2.1).


Since fink has its own fortran compilers, why not also have the rest  
of gcc and make and so on within fink?  Wouldn't that help avoid the  
crises like the current one, and allow better regularization?  A side  
benefit is that it might also allow one to skip an 800 MB+ download  
that is now required just to get gcc.  I guess one would have to  
start with a binary install of the compiler, but that seems a small  
price to pay.


Bill Scott




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[Fink-devel] pdb.finkproject.org seems unreachable

2005-11-18 Thread Freek Dijkstra

Hi,

The Packages page as linked on fink.sf.net, points to 
http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?phpLang=en
But that URL is unreachable for me. A short investigation showed that 
none of it's name servers (ns1.middle--earth.org. and 
ns2.middle--earth.org.) seem to respond.


Regards,
Freek


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Re: [Fink-devel] pdb.finkproject.org seems unreachable

2005-11-18 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On 11/18/05, Freek Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 The Packages page as linked on fink.sf.net, points to
 http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?phpLang=en
 But that URL is unreachable for me. A short investigation showed that
 none of it's name servers (ns1.middle--earth.org. and
 ns2.middle--earth.org.) seem to respond.

 Regards,
 Freek



Works (at least right now) for me.

--
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Fink Documenter
[Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment
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Re: [Fink-devel] pdb.finkproject.org seems unreachable

2005-11-18 Thread Freek Dijkstra

http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?phpLang=en
But that URL is unreachable for me. A short investigation showed that
none of it's name servers (ns1.middle--earth.org. and
ns2.middle--earth.org.) seem to respond.


Works (at least right now) for me.


traceroute fails for both name servers from my location (Dutch academic
network). Oddly enough in different domains. (resp. at a comcast.net and
a xo.net router). Nothing you can do about it. Let's hope it gets fixed
soon.

Regards,
Freek



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[Fink-devel] passwd entries

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Macks
The entries for fink's own daemons have HOME=/dev/null and
login-shell=/dev/null while Apple's standard seems to be
HOME=/var/empty login-shell=/usr/bin/false. According to security
advisories I've read, either shell is okay for user cannot log in,
and neither one should be listed in /etc/shells, however Apple lists
/usr/bin/false. What should we be doing here?

dan

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: build failure for scipy-py24-0.4.3-1 using XCode2.2 on Tiger

2005-11-18 Thread Matthew Sachs

On Nov 18, 2005, at 02:31, Martin Costabel wrote:


Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
[]

A thread concerning this behavior has been posted at

http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2005/Nov/msg00267.html

Addendum:  I tried this package on a box with XCode 2.1 (gcc 4.0.0)
and it built--it definitely looks to be compiler intolerance.


This stinks. Reading that discussion, one gets the impression they
deliberately broke the compiler, without asking or telling anyone, not
even their own documentation guys, and without really knowing what  
they

are doing. For scipy, I don't see how this can be fixed.


We are cleaning things up and executing stack was considered messy.   
Microsoft and Linux are headed in the same direction.


I did a Fink build with Xcode 2.2 recently.  I haven't had a chance  
to analyze the results in detail or put them up yet, but the  
following projects fail due to nested functions:

castle-combat
gkrellm2
gnokii2
mindless
open-cobol
xdigger
xrmap

scipy didn't build due to a failed dependency.



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Re: [Fink-devel] pdb.finkproject.org seems unreachable

2005-11-18 Thread Max Horn


Am 18.11.2005 um 14:26 schrieb Freek Dijkstra:


Hi,

The Packages page as linked on fink.sf.net, points to http:// 
pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?phpLang=en
But that URL is unreachable for me. A short investigation showed  
that none of it's name servers (ns1.middle--earth.org. and  
ns2.middle--earth.org.) seem to respond.


I can confirm this. I.e. pdb.finkproject.org doesn't resolve for me  
anymore. And traceroute to those two nameservers fails, too.


...
9  po80-ar01.audubon.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.86.208.2)  120.950 ms   
118.494 ms  118.861 ms
10  te-1-1-ur01.gloucester.nj.panjde.comcast.net (68.86.210.26)   
120.711 ms  118.077 ms  254.192 ms

11  * * *
...


Bye,
Max


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Re: [Fink-devel] pdb.finkproject.org seems unreachable

2005-11-18 Thread Koen van der Drift


On Nov 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Max Horn wrote:

I can confirm this. I.e. pdb.finkproject.org doesn't resolve for me  
anymore.


me too :)

- Koen.


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[Fink-devel] lammpi 7.1.1 build problems

2005-11-18 Thread Jack Howarth
Has anyone tried updating lammpi from fink 10.4-transitional unstable
to the newer 7.1.1 release source code? I am seeing the same thing that
William Scott was. The fink packaging produces a lammpi for 7.1.1 which
appears to compile and install fine but is unable to execute lamboot
properly. I find that using the same fink devtools with the same lam
7.1.1 source and the same configure options, I can install a build of
lam in /usr/local which works fine. So far I can't find anyway to coax
the fink build of the same lammpi 7.1.1 release to work (regardless of
whether I use SetCXX as g++-3.3 or g++-4.0). The only thing left that
I can think of is to build and install the standalone lam source with
exactly the same configure flags as fink uses but with /sw substituted
with /usr/local/sw so I can do a careful file by file comparision of
what fink has archived and what a standalone build has installed. It
is a really weird problem.
  Jack


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[Fink-devel] RE: lammpi 7.1.1 build problems

2005-11-18 Thread Jack Howarth
I don't understand why this build problem happens under fink but I
believe I have identified the offending file. It appears that the breakage
in the fink build of lam 7.1.1 originates in the liblam.0.0.0.dylib
shared library. Oddly the fink built version shows...

otool -L liblam.0.0.0.dylib
liblam.0.0.0.dylib:
/sw/lib/liblam.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
1.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 88.1.2)
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
1.0.0)


whereas the manually built version shows...

liblam.0.0.0.dylib:
/usr/local/lam-7.1.1/lib/liblam.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, 
current version 1.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 88.1.2)

...which is really strange since both builds should be using gcc 4.0.
Jack


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[Fink-devel] RE: lammpi 7.1.1 build problems

2005-11-18 Thread Jack Howarth
   Oddly I see to see that when fink links liblam.0.0.0.dylib with gcc called
as gcc-4.0, I have...

gcc-4.0 -dynamiclib ${wl}-undefined ${wl}dynamic_lookup -o 
.libs/liblam.0.0.0.dylib ...etc

whereas when I build lam 7.1.1 manually I end up with...

gcc -dynamiclib ${wl}-flat_namespace ${wl}-undefined ${wl}suppress -o 
.libs/liblam.0.0.0.dylib ...etc

which is very strange since the default compiler is set to gcc-4.0 in both
cases. The first case produced the liblam.0.0.0.dylib which had the additional
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib linked in compared to the second case which didn't.
   Jack
This is strange also because the libtool calls in both cases seem identical...

/bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc-4.0  -O3
-Wl,-multiply_defined,suppress -L/sw/lib  -o liblam.la -rpath /sw/lib 
-export-dynamic   ../../share/args/liblamargs.la ../../share/boot/liblamboot.la 
../../share/etc/liblametc.la ../../share/freq/liblamfreq.la 
../../share/kreq/liblamkreq.la ../../share/libltdl/libltdlc.la 
../../share/mpi/liblamextra.la ../../share/nreq/liblamnreq.la 
../../share/rreq/liblamrreq.la ../../share/ssi/libssi_lam.la 
../../share/threads/liblamthreads.la ../../share/trillium/liblamtrillium.la 
../../share/tstdio/liblamtstdio.la 

/bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O3-Wl,-multiply_defined,suppress   
-o liblam.la -rpath /usr/local/lam-7.1.1/lib -export-dynamic   
../../share/args/liblamargs.la ../../share/boot/liblamboot.la 
../../share/etc/liblametc.la ../../share/freq/liblamfreq.la 
../../share/kreq/liblamkreq.la ../../share/libltdl/libltdlc.la 
../../share/mpi/liblamextra.la ../../share/nreq/liblamnreq.la 
../../share/rreq/liblamrreq.la ../../share/ssi/libssi_lam.la 
../../share/threads/liblamthreads.la ../../share/trillium/liblamtrillium.la 
../../share/tstdio/liblamtstdio.la 
It is curious that they produce such different linkages.


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