Re: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted

[Tammy Van Boening]

https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/pre-framemaker-2020-welcome-screen-not-displaying-properly/td-p/10434631/page/1


And I intentionally did not make this an active link so that I can (hopefully) 
post to the list.  It's a very intense, heated discussion at times about this 
very issue and yep, even old perpetual license versions of 2019 have been 
nuked. And like others, Windows updates do seem to cause these issues . . . .

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 4:49 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted
> 
> Yep, it is.  And what's really annoying is that this issue w/ my installation
> (2019) came and went, and came and went, and now, apparently, it's here to
> stay (oh joy!).  And all I can tie it to is a recent round of Windows updates
> because that's when it stayed permanently. I know that I am grasping at
> straws here, but I haven't touched my installation in like a gazillion years 
> in
> terms of customizations, etc., and there hasn't been updates for it in a long
> time either. (I still have it phone home for updates just for grins and 
> giggles to
> make sure and there's been no updates to 2019, perpetual installation
> forever!)
> 
> Sigh. . .
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 
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> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted
> >
> > Yes, it's a known issue & has been posted about in the FM forum for awhile.
> > 
> > From: Framers  > bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf
> > bounces+of
> > Wim idtp 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 12:37 PM
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> > 
> > Subject: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted
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> >
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> > Hi Framers,
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> > I was at a client today who recently installed FM2022 (FM17),
> > downloaded from the Adobe website. They al had this issue: the welcome
> > screen distorted (no css applied) and the Frame font missing -
> > resulting in not properly diplaying tabs, anchors, etc..
> >
> > Anyone seen this, what can be the cause? Note it's not one use -r all
> > users
> > (five) of the same company have the issue.
> >
> > Thanks!
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Re: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yep, it is.  And what's really annoying is that this issue w/ my installation 
(2019) came and went, and came and went, and now, apparently, it's here to stay 
(oh joy!).  And all I can tie it to is a recent round of Windows updates 
because that's when it stayed permanently. I know that I am grasping at straws 
here, but I haven't touched my installation in like a gazillion years in terms 
of customizations, etc., and there hasn't been updates for it in a long time 
either. (I still have it phone home for updates just for grins and giggles to 
make sure and there's been no updates to 2019, perpetual installation forever!)

Sigh. . .

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Jeff Coatsworth
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 11:12 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted
> 
> Yes, it's a known issue & has been posted about in the FM forum for awhile.
> 
> From: Framers  bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of
> Wim idtp 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 12:37 PM
> To: Framers ; TCS Gold Support
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Frame5 font missing and welcome page distorted
> 
> 
> 
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Jonas Software. DO NOT
> CLICK links or open attachments UNLESS YOU RECOGNIZE THE SENDER and
> know the content is safe.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> I was at a client today who recently installed FM2022 (FM17), downloaded
> from the Adobe website. They al had this issue: the welcome screen distorted
> (no css applied) and the Frame font missing - resulting in not properly
> diplaying tabs, anchors, etc..
> 
> Anyone seen this, what can be the cause? Note it's not one use -r all users
> (five) of the same company have the issue.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
> 
> Wim Hooghwinkel
> 
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Re: [Framers] Searching for an en dash in a big FM document

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you to everyone who responded. I appreciate the help and I will try using 
the hex code. Yes, I did try copying and pasting the dash to the find field 
first before posting and no joy.藍
But one of these responses will definitely work!
TGIF,
Tammy
Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.

> On May 31, 2024, at 5:41 PM, David Artman  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to enter the character in the Find field using the Alt 
> code, then choose a replacement, and use Find Next + Replace (carefully!) to 
> verify desired results.
> 
> If the Find dialog doesn't let you enter the Alt code, enter it in Notepad or 
> something, copy it, and paste the copied en dash into FM Find field.
> 
> Are you not able to do either of these?
> 
> David Artman
> 
> DCA:d.a.d.
> 
> 
> 
> ---- Original message 
> From: Tammy Van Boening 
> Date: 5/31/24 19:15 (GMT-05:00)
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
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> Subject: [Framers] Searching for an en dash in a big FM document
> 
> I have a legacy book (oh joy) in which I want to do a search and replace for 
> all the en dashes. I know that the ALT code for this special character is 
> Alt+0150. Is there a way to search all the files in the FM book using this 
> code and if so, what do I select for the Find option - not a Paragraph Tag, 
> for example, but what else? If I can't search by the ALT code, how else can I 
> search short of very intense/mind-numbing/drink-inducing page by page hunt 
> and kill?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> TVB
> 
> 
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
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[Framers] Searching for an en dash in a big FM document

[Tammy Van Boening]

I have a legacy book (oh joy) in which I want to do a search and replace for 
all the en dashes. I know that the ALT code for this special character is 
Alt+0150. Is there a way to search all the files in the FM book using this code 
and if so, what do I select for the Find option - not a Paragraph Tag, for 
example, but what else? If I can't search by the ALT code, how else can I 
search short of very intense/mind-numbing/drink-inducing page by page hunt and 
kill?

TIA,

TVB



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www.spectrumwritingllc.com



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Re: [Framers] Test Post

[Tammy Van Boening]

It has to reach the server to be archived.

For whatever reason, I’m able to see everybody else’s  post and people say mine 
are hitting the list, but all of a sudden I’m not seeing my own posts in my 
email to the list. I’m trying to work with my email provider to figure out what 
the heck is going on

Thanks! 
Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.

> On May 21, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Johan Anglemark  wrote:
> 
> As can be seen in the list archive, it never reached the list server.
> 
> -j
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: den 21 maj 2024 15:45
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> Subject: [Framers] Test Post
> 
> The usual testing to see if my posts are being received to the list. I posted 
> yesterday and still haven't seen my message come through. Sigh.
> 
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Re: [Framers] Are you seeing my posts

[Tammy Van Boening]

Nope, just two from today and one from yesterday. I am seeing everyone else's 
post to the list, but not mine for some reason, but everyone is apparently 
seeing mine. Trying to work with my email provider to see if there is some 
issue there. Ain't technology grand?

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 8:50 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Are you seeing my posts
> 
> Just saw this one only - were there more Rick?
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/BmICACMNAgAEr9QA0>
> 
> From: Framers  bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of
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> Subject: [Framers] Are you seeing my posts
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[Framers] Posting for a retired colleague

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hello remaining Whirlers,

I retired from tech comm in 2015; before that, I was a fairly active user of 
this list. I see now that it has dwindled and is possibly replaced by some 
other forum. Similarly, the frameusers community seems to have dissolved.

I'm hoping someone can help me find some FrameMaker users, as I have a need to 
use some applications in Adobe TCS. I have a licensed copy on an old personal 
laptop (legal, per the licence agreement), but want to move it to a new laptop. 
Unfortunately, my former employer tossed the installation discs sometime in the 
intervening years ("let's tidy this place up") and Adobe no longer provides 
downloadable installation files.
Perhaps someone out there has discs they could help me out with.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Best regards,

--
Stuart Rogers
formerly srogers @ phoenix-geophysics dot 
com<mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com>
150 St. Clair Ave. W. Apt. 205
Toronto, ON  M4V 1P6
416-929-0125 (H)
416-655-2267 (M)


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[Framers] Test Post

[Tammy Van Boening]

The usual testing to see if my posts are being received to the list. I posted 
yesterday and still haven't seen my message come through. Sigh.

Tammy Van Boening
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Re: [Framers] Giving away copies of the printed manual for FrameMaker 7.0

[Tammy Van Boening]

Man, I remember when those thing used to be liquid gold!!! I myself have one 
for FM 7.0 and two for 6.0 - not much difference between the two. But alas, w/ 
Framemaker no longer the in demand tool that it was, I couldn't give mine away 
(shipping costs only as well) either!  

Tammy Van Boening
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> Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 6:40 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Giving away copies of the printed manual for FrameMaker
> 7.0
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> I have four copies of the old FrameMaker 7.0 printed manual from Adobe (one
> is still shrink-wrapped) that I am giving away ... only asking for the cost of
> shipping to you.
> 
> Please let me know if you'd like one, your address (so I can calculate the box
> cost, postage), etc.
> 
> First come-first served, of course! And, If I don't hear from anybody by the
> end of May, these will all end up in recycling bins.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Z
> 
> 
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Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK, this list just rocks. Thank you for all the font information and seeing as 
how Roboto is a free Google font, I am sticking with it.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 3:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
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> > Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?
> >
> > We use google fonts almost exclusively these days -- Free, many have a
> > wide range of weights, and they read well on screen. Added bonus: none
> > of the wonky "available in application X but not in application Y"
> > issues that Adobe fonts seem to be plagued by (on MacOS at least).
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Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you!

Tammy Van Boening
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> 
> We use google fonts almost exclusively these days -- Free, many have a wide
> range of weights, and they read well on screen. Added bonus: none of the
> wonky "available in application X but not in application Y" issues that Adobe
> fonts seem to be plagued by (on MacOS at least).
> 
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[Framers] San Serif Font?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK all,
I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much 
like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don’t want to 
break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in 
the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes standard 
with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard with windows 
would be the closest to either of these two fonts?

My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really 
commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him one 
with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I don’t 
wanna leave my client with  having to deal with fonts in their source files.
Thanks!
Tammy

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[Framers] Adobe Illustrator?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hey All,

I am learning just enough on my own to be dangerous. I was wondering if anybody 
on this list uses AI in their work at all, and if so, might be available to 
answer a few questions about the tracing function in it. I am going to post my 
question to the AI forum as well, but thought I would try some friendly "voices 
and faces" that I know first.

Thanks!

TVB


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[Framers] Adobe Illustrator?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hey All,

I am learning just enough on my own to be dangerous. I was wondering if anybody 
on this list uses AI in their work at all, and if so, might be available to 
answer a few questions about the tracing function in it. I am going to post my 
question to the AI forum as well, but thought I would try some friendly "voices 
and faces" that I know first.

Thanks!

TVB

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Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi All,

Here is the link as no information that identifies my client or this 
information for them is shown in the video. And Julie S., I think this is what 
you were describing to me. Brilliant minds on this list.

https://youtu.be/VGcibNwQ0EU



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> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of r...@rickquatro.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 9:49 AM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy
> 
> Hi Tammy,
> 
> I am sending you a video link that I think shows the solution. It is a 
> private link
> because I am not sure if the content of your file should be shared. If my
> solution is correct, perhaps you can share it with the list.
> 
> Rick
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 11:40 AM
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> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
> Yes, I understand that. So how do I break the flow and be able to start adding
> new content after the last footnote in the series?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
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> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy
> >
> > {table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and
> > click, and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag,
> > it s like the hold ofated the table footnote will not go away. It s
> > like FrameMaker won t let me start any new tag after a table footnote.
> > It s stuck thinking everything that follows should be kept with the
> > table footnotes } Please keep in mind that a footnote/table footnote is a 
> > flow
> (terminated by §)!
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Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi Klaus,

Yes, I understand that. So how do I break the flow and be able to start adding 
new content after the last footnote in the series?

Thanks!

TVB

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> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 6:46 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy
> 
> {table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and click, and
> then press enter to start a new line and start another tag, it s like the hold
> ofated the table footnote will not go away. It s like FrameMaker won t let me
> start any new tag after a table footnote. It s stuck thinking everything that
> follows should be kept with the table footnotes } Please keep in mind that a
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Tammy Van Boening]

I >>THINK<< that I understand. I will give this a shot if something else 
doesn't work.

Thanks!

TVB

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> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Julie A. Sigrist
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:14 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> I noticed that when adding footnotes that each paragraph has an End of flow
> symbol. To break from that I had to find the original End of flow symbol for 
> my
> document and work from there. When testing, I inserted the table at the End
> of Flow symbol and had to go above the table to find that symbol and put my
> return in at that point.
> 
> Not sure if I explained this correctly, but hopefully it might help.
> 
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> From: Framers  bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of
> Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 6:48 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> I might give this a try!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
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> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  >
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bo
> u
> > bounces+nces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com>>
> On
> > bounces+Behalf
> > Of acr...@shaw.ca<mailto:acr...@shaw.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 3:38 PM
> > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> >
> > What about creating the next heading level *before* adding the footnotes?
> > Possibly with the extra pilcrow after the table as an added buffer?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers
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> bo
> > unces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com>> On Behalf Of Tammy Van
> > Boening
> > Sent: February 12, 2024 1:43 PM
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> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> > Yeah I ve tried that too and I m just at my wit s end. After I hit a
> > return from the last table footnote, no matter what type of tag I
> > select with point and click, and then press enter to start a new line
> > and start another tag, it s like the hold of the table footnote will
> > not go away. It s like FrameMaker won t let me start any new tag after
> > a table footnote. It s stuck thinking everything that follows should
> > be kept with the table footnotes
> >
> > I ve given up for now and have just manually numbered the footnotes
> > because there s only four of them and there s no expectation that they ll
> change at all.
> > However, I still would like to know why after a table footnote when
> > you hit return, and then try to point and click and setting new tag at
> > the pilcrow, Framemaker isn t recognizing the new tag s properties. It
> > appears to stay stuck in table footnote mode.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > TVB
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> >
> > > On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Harding, Dan
> mailto:dhard...@illinois.edu>> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Poor man's workaround: what about putting an empty paragraph after
> > > the
> > final footnote and THEN the paragraph style that is tagged to start a
> > new page? Whatever is clinging to the final footnote may stick with
> > the empty paragraph rather than the paragraph starting the next page.
> > >
> > > Not elegant, I realize, but...
> > >
> > > -Dan
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yep, that rings a dull thud to me as well . . . I might look into that. 


Thanks!

TVB

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> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of loui...@mchsi.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 4:51 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> Also, I "kind of" remember that you can set the footnotes to appear in the 
> last
> row of the table, instead of after it? (Sorry, I don't have Frame loaded and 
> it's
> been a few years.) Louise
> 
> **
> 
> Hi - are the footnotes near the bottom of the page? Try expanding the page's
> text frame and see if that does anything.
> OR
> Does the table have a lot of space after it that's constraining it?
> OR
> Select the page's text frame and do a ctrl-a. Maybe there's an errant box or
> frame on the page.
> 
> Good luck -
> 
> Louise Kaufman
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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Tammy Van Boening 
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:42:34 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> Hi Dan,
> Yeah I’ve tried that too and I’m just at my wit’s end. After I hit a return 
> from
> the last table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and 
> click,
> and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag, it’s like the 
> hold
> of the table footnote will not go away. It’s like FrameMaker won’t let me 
> start
> any new tag after a table footnote. It’s stuck thinking everything that 
> follows
> should be kept with the table footnotes
> 
> I’ve given up for now and have just manually numbered the footnotes
> because there’s only four of them and there’s no expectation that they’ll
> change at all. However, I still would like to know why after a table footnote
> when you hit return, and then try to point and click and setting new tag at 
> the
> pilcrow, Framemaker isn’t recognizing the new tag‘s properties. It appears to
> stay stuck in table footnote mode.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> TVB
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> 
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Harding, Dan  wrote:
> >
> > Poor man's workaround: what about putting an empty paragraph after the
> final footnote and THEN the paragraph style that is tagged to start a new
> page? Whatever is clinging to the final footnote may stick with the empty
> paragraph rather than the paragraph starting the next page.
> >
> > Not elegant, I realize, but...
> >
> > -Dan
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Tammy Van Boening]

I might give this a try!

Thanks!

TVB

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> Of acr...@shaw.ca
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 3:38 PM
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> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> What about creating the next heading level *before* adding the footnotes?
> Possibly with the extra pilcrow after the table as an added buffer?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Framers  On
> Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: February 12, 2024 1:43 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> Hi Dan,
> Yeah I ve tried that too and I m just at my wit s end. After I hit a return 
> from
> the last table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and 
> click,
> and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag, it s like the 
> hold
> of the table footnote will not go away. It s like FrameMaker won t let me 
> start
> any new tag after a table footnote. It s stuck thinking everything that 
> follows
> should be kept with the table footnotes
> 
> I ve given up for now and have just manually numbered the footnotes because
> there s only four of them and there s no expectation that they ll change at 
> all.
> However, I still would like to know why after a table footnote when you hit
> return, and then try to point and click and setting new tag at the pilcrow,
> Framemaker isn t recognizing the new tag s properties. It appears to stay 
> stuck
> in table footnote mode.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> TVB
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> 
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Harding, Dan  wrote:
> >
> > ?Poor man's workaround: what about putting an empty paragraph after the
> final footnote and THEN the paragraph style that is tagged to start a new
> page? Whatever is clinging to the final footnote may stick with the empty
> paragraph rather than the paragraph starting the next page.
> >
> > Not elegant, I realize, but...
> >
> > -Dan
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Tammy Van Boening]

 Yep, I tried a page break and the tag doesn't have a Keep w/ 
Next element either. 



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> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Dennis Hays
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 3:47 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> 
>Did you try to put a Page Break after the extra line following the
>footnote, and does that carry the last footnote to the next page?
>Also, look ar the Paragraph tag and see if there is an erroneous 'Keep
>with next' element.
>Dennis
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>On Monday, Feb 12, 2024 at 4:42 PM, Tammy Van Boening
><[1]tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>Hi Dan,
>Yeah I’ve tried that too and I’m just at my wit’s end. After I hit a
>return from the last table footnote, no matter what type of tag I
>select with point and click, and then press enter to start a new line
>and start another tag, it’s like the hold of the table footnote will
>not go away. It’s like FrameMaker won’t let me start any new tag after
>a table footnote. It’s stuck thinking everything that follows should be
>kept with the table footnotes
>I’ve given up for now and have just manually numbered the footnotes
>because there’s only four of them and there’s no expectation that
>they’ll change at all. However, I still would like to know why after a
>table footnote when you hit return, and then try to point and click and
>setting new tag at the pilcrow, Framemaker isn’t recognizing the new
>tag‘s properties. It appears to stay stuck in table footnote mode.
>Thank you!
>TVB
>Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> 
>  On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Harding, Dan 
>  wrote:
>  Poor man's workaround: what about putting an empty paragraph after
>  the final footnote and THEN the paragraph style that is tagged to
>  start a new page? Whatever is clinging to the final footnote may
>  stick with the empty paragraph rather than the paragraph starting
>  the next page.
>  Not elegant, I realize, but...
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi Dan,
Yeah I’ve tried that too and I’m just at my wit’s end. After I hit a return 
from the last table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point 
and click, and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag, it’s 
like the hold of the table footnote will not go away. It’s like FrameMaker 
won’t let me start any new tag after a table footnote. It’s stuck thinking 
everything that follows should be kept with the table footnotes

I’ve given up for now and have just manually numbered the footnotes because 
there’s only four of them and there’s no expectation that they’ll change at 
all. However, I still would like to know why after a table footnote when you 
hit return, and then try to point and click and setting new tag at the pilcrow, 
Framemaker isn’t recognizing the new tag‘s properties. It appears to stay stuck 
in table footnote mode.

Thank you!

TVB


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> On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Harding, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Poor man's workaround: what about putting an empty paragraph after the final 
> footnote and THEN the paragraph style that is tagged to start a new page? 
> Whatever is clinging to the final footnote may stick with the empty paragraph 
> rather than the paragraph starting the next page.
> 
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

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Hi Julie,

Great thought, but nope.  It's not marked as Keep with Previous or Keep with 
Next. I know it has something to do w/ how FM handles table footnotes and 
wanting to keep them all together at the bottom of the table and it's really 
quirky and I used to know how to get around it, but for the life of me, I can't 
remember! 

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> I do not use footnotes so this may not even apply, but is there a chance a
> paragraph tag is set to keep with next paragraph?
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> Subject: [Framers] Table Footnote question
> 
> So, I hope I can adequately describe the situation I am trying to resolve. I 
> have
> a table w/ a set table format (I call it FieldTable_Title). Each of the column
> headers in this one instance of the table has to have a footnote reference.
> There are 4 table columns, hence, four table footnotes. I have used the Table
> Footnote feature to insert the automatically numbered footnotes and yes,
> they do go after the table. Here's the rub: After the 4th footnote, I want to
> start a new page of content. I hit the Enter key at the end of the last table
> footnote and at the pilcrow, I click HeadLev1 in my paragraph catalog to start
> w/ the new content (and this tag is set to start on new page) and instead of a
> clean break from the Table Footnotes, the last table footnote is brought over
> to the top of the next page and AFTER this last table footnote, I get the
> placeholder for HeadLev1. I have tried 8 ways from Sunday to figure out how
> to "break free" from the hold of these Table Footnotes and get a c lean break
> on starting new text, but everything that I am trying keeps yanking the last
> footnote over to the next page. It's not behaving as I expect in FM where 
> after
> you put in a hard return and then point and click to change the tag as needed.
> 
> Help!
> 
> TIA!
> 
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[Framers] Table Footnote question

[Tammy Van Boening]

So, I hope I can adequately describe the situation I am trying to resolve. I 
have a table w/ a set table format (I call it FieldTable_Title).  Each of the 
column headers in this one instance of the table has to have a footnote 
reference. There are 4 table columns, hence, four table footnotes. I have used 
the Table Footnote feature to insert the automatically numbered footnotes and 
yes, they do go after the table. Here's the rub: After the 4th footnote, I want 
to start a new page of content.  I hit the Enter key at the end of the last 
table footnote and at the pilcrow, I click HeadLev1 in my paragraph catalog to 
start w/ the new content (and this tag is set to start on new page) and instead 
of a clean break from the Table Footnotes, the last table footnote is brought 
over to the top of the next page and AFTER this last table footnote, I get the 
placeholder for HeadLev1. I have tried 8 ways from Sunday to figure out how to 
"break free" from the hold of these Table Footnotes and get a c
 lean break on starting new text, but everything that I am trying keeps yanking 
the last footnote over to the next page. It's not behaving as I expect in FM 
where after you put in  a hard return and then point and click to change the 
tag as needed.

Help!

TIA!

Tammy Van Boening
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Re: [Framers] Side heads issue and numbering

[Tammy Van Boening]

Well, sigh, it has to be a bug in FM19 because I am receiving this message for 
ONLY my Heading1 tag. Any subsequent tag, Heading2, Heading3, etc., I am NOT 
getting the message and yep, I am definitely applying the numbering to a tag 
that goes across all side heads and columns.  I am NOT even gonna' try to 
figure this one . . . it won't break the document, cause generation problems. . 
. live and let live at this point.

TVB

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> Subject: [Framers] Side heads issue and numbering
> 
> OK,
> 
> S, now after deciding that they didn't want numbering
> on the headings, my client now has flipped-flopped and wants numbering.
> Sigh. So, I did the following:
> 
> 1.  Removed landscape pages from the available Master Pages.
> 2.  Turned on room for side heads in the template: Format > Page Layout >
> Column Layout. (I then double-checked all my master pages and all have a side
> head showing.)
> 3.  Started with my Heading1 paragraph tag and started the Numbering
> scheme where H:<$chapnum>.\t and adjusted the tab until I was happy.
> 4.  For my Heading1 tag, selected Across All Columns and Sideheads.
> 
> But then . . . .I get that infamous message that applied a side head paragraph
> format to a paragraph in a flow that does have room for side heads, BUT as
> you can see in Step 2, I have applied side heads. I give. . . If anyone can 
> point
> me in the right direction/explain what in the H*LL is going on, I would 
> sincerely
> appreciate it.
> 
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[Framers] Side heads issue and numbering

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK,

S, now after deciding that they didn't want numbering on the 
headings, my client now has flipped-flopped and wants numbering. Sigh. So, I 
did the following:

1.  Removed landscape pages from the available Master Pages.
2.  Turned on room for side heads in the template: Format > Page Layout > 
Column Layout. (I then double-checked all my master pages and all have a side 
head showing.)
3.  Started with my Heading1 paragraph tag and started the Numbering scheme 
where H:<$chapnum>.\t and adjusted the tab until I was happy.
4.  For my Heading1 tag, selected Across All Columns and Sideheads.

But then . . . .I get that infamous message that applied a side head paragraph 
format to a paragraph in a flow that does have room for side heads, BUT as you 
can see in Step 2, I have applied side heads. I give. . . If anyone can point 
me in the right direction/explain what in the H*LL is going on, I would 
sincerely appreciate it.

TVB

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[Framers] Freelance editing opportunity

[Tammy Van Boening]

I have already posted this on the STC page and STC Editing SIG page on 
LinkedIn, but figured it was worth a shot here as well as if someone on list 
was interested or might know someone who is.

Freelance Job Posting:

I have a longtime neighbor/friend who is a retired police sergeant, former 
Marine, and former Marine sniper. He is writing his memoirs and is looking to 
hire a freelance editor to help him in his endeavors.

Synopsis: The book is a memoir, a collection of short stories, some of which 
are funny, some tragic, some shocking, some exciting, written from the author's 
perspective. There is profanity and some of the stories are not for the faint 
of heart. Topics include deaths, sexual fetishes, car chases, shootings, 
lawsuits, internal affairs investigations, and a variety of other stories that 
are hard to categorize. (I have read a rough draft of one chapter, and trust 
me, no, it's definitely not for the faint of heart.)

He is even struggling w/ a working title right now and offered some ideas to me 
but none that I would use.

His contact information is the following:
Name: Graham Dunne
email: Graham Dunne mailto:g.du...@comcast.net>>
Mobile number: 303-884-1522

Please reach out to Graham directly if you are interested in this opportunity. 
You and he can discuss the specifics of the project, including timeline, cost, 
expectations, etc.

Disclaimer: I have absolutely NO financial stake in this project whatsoever. I 
am just trying to help a friend who has never written anything before and was 
unsure of how to even start the process with an assisting editor.

Tammy Van Boening
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Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word document"

[Tammy Van Boening]

Update: So, I demonstrated to my client how/why I was using 
Framemaker versus Word and explained to them that they would be going down the 
same hellacious road that they hired me to rescue them from in the first place 
if they went back to Word and I also emphasized the exorbitant cost in having 
me convert everything to Word and miracles upon miracles, here is their 
response verbatim: " We have decided to skill up with framemaker, so no worries 
about the word versions." Score one for the gipper!!!

I promised to leave them a very clean point and click template and provide a 
video of how to switch back and forth between the two conditions (SPG and 
Equations) which represent the two different guides!!!

Now, I am going to drink heavily but this time to celebrate!!!

Happy Holidays everyone!!

TVB

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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a
> word document"
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> Thanks everyone for all the responses. Despite the "death knell" tone, I was
> 99.9% sure that that was going to be the case. Sigh. I need to reach out to my
> client and set the expectations and let them decide how badly they want to go
> down the rabbit hole - and it won't be cheap. I am still sticking with my 
> original
> solution which is to drink heavily and then run away.
> 
> TVB
> 
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Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word document"

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Thanks everyone for all the responses. Despite the "death knell" tone, I was 
99.9% sure that that was going to be the case. Sigh. I need to reach out to my 
client and set the expectations and let them decide how badly they want to go 
down the rabbit hole - and it won't be cheap. I am still sticking with my 
original solution which is to drink heavily and then run away. 

TVB

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www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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>That may be useful for single files, but what about a book file
>containing multiple .fm files?
>Dennis
> 
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[Framers] Converting a frame maker document to a word document

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Hello all,
I have an absolutely massive frame maker document (700+ pages including a 
bibliography) that is laden with cross references and graphics. It’s a heavily 
detailed scientific guide that I’m also single sourcing to produce another 
guide from. I’ve gone round and round with my client on this, but they’ve 
decided that they want everything in Word  now, despite all my articulate 
arguments about why Word is not the source tool you want to use for something 
like this. That said, that means I have to convert this beast to a word 
document. I know I’m probably up the proverbial creek without a paddle, but is 
there any even remotely possible way to do this short of copying and pasting 
everything in and manually reformatting ? I have tons across references. I have 
numbered figures that need to remain numbered sequentially. I have a 
bibliography that uses super scripts for cross references, etc. It’s just a 
nightmare and I don’t even want to think about starting this but I don’t have a 
choice.

Any and all advice short of drinking heavily and running away is appreciated 

Thank you so much,
Tam
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Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK, let me hear back from Dan and we will set a time.

Thanks!

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of r...@rickquatro.com
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 11:01 AM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> I am pretty much available this week.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+rick=rickquatro....@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 11:12 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> HI Dan,
> 
> Looks like it will be you and I. Rick, when can we set up a 15 minute meeting 
> to
> do the hand off and ask any questions that we have?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf
> > Of Harding, Dan
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:16 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> >
> > Tammy,
> >
> > If there's a need, I'm certainly willing to help out from a list admin
> > perspective, especially if it is a group/team effort. I've been
> > subscribed to the list since 2008 (at least that's as far back as my
> > saved emails from the list go). For background, while I took early
> > retirement from the University of Illinois 2 years ago, I still work
> > for the same department 6 months out of the year as a consultant, and
> > during that 6 months I am using FrameMaker daily, so I too still rely
> > on and check the list regularly (less regularly during my 6 months of
> non-employment, but still check the list weekly at a minimum).
> >
> > While I typically prune my contact information from list emails, I'm
> > including it below.
> >
> > DAN HARDING
> > Publications Manager
> > Assistant Director, Information Technologies (Retired)
> >
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Tax School Department of
> > Agricultural and Consumer Economics
> > 412 Mumford Hall | M/C 710
> > 1301 W. Gregory Drive
> > Urbana, IL 61801
> > 217.333.0935 | fax: 217.244.5933 | dhard...@illinois.edu
> > taxschool.illinois.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written
> > communication to or from university employees regarding university
> > business is a public record and may be subject to public disclosure.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > bounces+dharding=illinois@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> > Van Boening
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:31 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > 
> > Subject: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> >
> > OK,
> >
> > I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list
> > after this post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough
> > old
> bird.
> >
> > I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any
> > success. I was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and
> > then since that time (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard
> > as the last that I heard is that he had stepped up to the plate to be
> > the list admin after Carol Elkins and Rick Quatro stepped back.
> >
> > Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all
> > emails, I called Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email
> response that I received:
> >
> >
> ***
> >
> ***
> > ***
> > Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password
> > for the list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to
> > Rick Quattro. He's got full admin permissions in the system as well.
> >
> > Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin
> > and I have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually
> > had a brief conversation with Rick Quatro a

Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

[Tammy Van Boening]

HI Dan,

Looks like it will be you and I. Rick, when can we set up a 15 minute meeting 
to do the hand off and ask any questions that we have?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:16 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> Tammy,
> 
> If there's a need, I'm certainly willing to help out from a list admin 
> perspective,
> especially if it is a group/team effort. I've been subscribed to the list 
> since 2008
> (at least that's as far back as my saved emails from the list go). For
> background, while I took early retirement from the University of Illinois 2
> years ago, I still work for the same department 6 months out of the year as a
> consultant, and during that 6 months I am using FrameMaker daily, so I too
> still rely on and check the list regularly (less regularly during my 6 months 
> of
> non-employment, but still check the list weekly at a minimum).
> 
> While I typically prune my contact information from list emails, I'm 
> including it
> below.
> 
> DAN HARDING
> Publications Manager
> Assistant Director, Information Technologies (Retired)
> 
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Tax School Department of
> Agricultural and Consumer Economics
> 412 Mumford Hall | M/C 710
> 1301 W. Gregory Drive
> Urbana, IL 61801
> 217.333.0935 | fax: 217.244.5933 | dhard...@illinois.edu
> taxschool.illinois.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written communication to
> or from university employees regarding university business is a public record
> and may be subject to public disclosure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+dharding=illinois@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:31 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> OK,
> 
> I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list after 
> this
> post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough old bird.
> 
> I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any 
> success. I
> was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and then since that time
> (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard as the last that I heard is 
> that
> he had stepped up to the plate to be the list admin after Carol Elkins and 
> Rick
> Quatro stepped back.
> 
> Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all emails, I 
> called
> Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email response that I received:
> 
> ***
> ***
> ***
> Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password for the
> list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to Rick Quattro. 
> He's
> got full admin permissions in the system as well.
> 
> Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin and I
> have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually had a brief
> conversation with Rick Quatro a while back and he explicitly stated that he 
> was
> not the list admin, Bernard was.
> 
> I know that many of us on this list are getting long in the tooth, myself
> definitely included, but I most certainly can still use the support of the
> community at times. I intend to keep working for at least the next 2 years,
> maybe 3 and I simply cannot imagine not having this list as a resource when
> needed. FM is still the tool of choice for several of my clients for many 
> reasons,
> and even after all these years, I still need a nudge in the right direction 
> or need
> to learn something new. I can't imagine that there are not others in the same
> boat.
> 
> I kinda' feel like we (the list users) have been left hanging and have not 
> been
> really given the whole scoop. I am more than willing to step to the role of 
> list
> admin part-time if someone else is willing to co-admin. I don't have the
> bandwidth for being a sole admin, but being a co-admin would be fine. At this
> point, the list traffic is light enough and the list members so well known 
> that I
> can't imagine having too many list issues such as a recruiting imposter, spam,
> etc.
> 
> If you're interested, p

Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you I will let this email percolate over the weekend and then reach 
out to Bernard and Rick to see how we pass the baton.

I sincerely appreciate your willingness to help out.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:16 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> Tammy,
> 
> If there's a need, I'm certainly willing to help out from a list admin 
> perspective,
> especially if it is a group/team effort. I've been subscribed to the list 
> since 2008
> (at least that's as far back as my saved emails from the list go). For
> background, while I took early retirement from the University of Illinois 2
> years ago, I still work for the same department 6 months out of the year as a
> consultant, and during that 6 months I am using FrameMaker daily, so I too
> still rely on and check the list regularly (less regularly during my 6 months 
> of
> non-employment, but still check the list weekly at a minimum).
> 
> While I typically prune my contact information from list emails, I'm 
> including it
> below.
> 
> DAN HARDING
> Publications Manager
> Assistant Director, Information Technologies (Retired)
> 
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Tax School Department of
> Agricultural and Consumer Economics
> 412 Mumford Hall | M/C 710
> 1301 W. Gregory Drive
> Urbana, IL 61801
> 217.333.0935 | fax: 217.244.5933 | dhard...@illinois.edu
> taxschool.illinois.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written communication to
> or from university employees regarding university business is a public record
> and may be subject to public disclosure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+dharding=illinois@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:31 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> OK,
> 
> I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list after 
> this
> post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough old bird.
> 
> I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any 
> success. I
> was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and then since that time
> (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard as the last that I heard is 
> that
> he had stepped up to the plate to be the list admin after Carol Elkins and 
> Rick
> Quatro stepped back.
> 
> Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all emails, I 
> called
> Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email response that I received:
> 
> ***
> ***
> ***
> Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password for the
> list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to Rick Quattro. 
> He's
> got full admin permissions in the system as well.
> 
> Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin and I
> have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually had a brief
> conversation with Rick Quatro a while back and he explicitly stated that he 
> was
> not the list admin, Bernard was.
> 
> I know that many of us on this list are getting long in the tooth, myself
> definitely included, but I most certainly can still use the support of the
> community at times. I intend to keep working for at least the next 2 years,
> maybe 3 and I simply cannot imagine not having this list as a resource when
> needed. FM is still the tool of choice for several of my clients for many 
> reasons,
> and even after all these years, I still need a nudge in the right direction 
> or need
> to learn something new. I can't imagine that there are not others in the same
> boat.
> 
> I kinda' feel like we (the list users) have been left hanging and have not 
> been
> really given the whole scoop. I am more than willing to step to the role of 
> list
> admin part-time if someone else is willing to co-admin. I don't have the
> bandwidth for being a sole admin, but being a co-admin would be fine. At this
> point, the list traffic is light enough and the list members so well known 
> that I
> can't imagine having too many list issues such as a recruiting imposter, spam,
> etc

[Framers] Framers list admin?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK,

I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list after 
this post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough old bird.

I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any success. 
I was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and then since that 
time (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard as the last that I heard 
is that he had stepped up to the plate to be the list admin after Carol Elkins 
and Rick Quatro stepped back.

Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all emails, I 
called Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email response that I 
received:

*
Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password for the 
list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to Rick Quattro. 
He's got full admin permissions in the system as well.

Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin and I 
have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually had a brief 
conversation with Rick Quatro a while back and he explicitly stated that he was 
not the list admin, Bernard was.

I know that many of us on this list are getting long in the tooth, myself 
definitely included, but I most certainly can still use the support of the 
community at times. I intend to keep working for at least the next 2 years, 
maybe 3 and I simply cannot imagine not having this list as a resource when 
needed. FM is still the tool of choice for several of my clients for many 
reasons, and even after all these years, I still need a nudge in the right 
direction or need to learn something new. I can't imagine that there are not 
others in the same boat.

I kinda' feel like we (the list users) have been left hanging and have not been 
really given the whole scoop. I am more than willing to step to the role of 
list admin part-time if someone else is willing to co-admin. I don't have the 
bandwidth for being a sole admin, but being a co-admin would be fine. At this 
point, the list traffic is light enough and the list members so well known that 
I can't imagine having too many list issues such as a recruiting imposter, 
spam, etc.

If you're interested, please just respond to this email directly on list 
because if we several folks willing to step up, that would lighten the burden 
for all of us, but still keep a very necessary resource for so many of us 
active.

Thanks for reading!

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com



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Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thanks Klaus, and everyone else. I am good to go now and it's much appreciated.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Julie A. Sigrist
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:14 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
> https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/using-framemaker/user-
> guide/frm_books_bk-book-groups-and-folders.html#topic_book-groups-
> and-folders__section_book-groups
> 
> You are right, there is very little information out there about "Groups". 
> There is
> an icon next to the add a folder icon that will add a group or it is available
> under the Insert menu when you have the book selected.
> 
> Julie Sigrist
> 513-607-1444
> From: Framers  bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of
> Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3:27 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
> So, in the online "help" for FM2019, there's a section about all the different
> things that you can add to a book, and there is a single entry that states 
> "learn
> more about groups and how to add them," yet there is not a single
> explanation about what a group is/does and that statement is not even a link
> as the text implies. GRRR. . .
> 
> This list, as usual, is the source of help.
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  >
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bo
> u
> > bounces+nces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com>>
> On
> > bounces+Behalf
> > Of Julie A. Sigrist
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 7:56 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> >
> > The difference between using a folder and a group when organizing
> > files in a book is that you can't control the volume, chapter, etc.
> > hierarchy in a group as you can in a folder structure.
> >
> > Julie Sigrist
> >
> >
> > From: Framers  > bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bounc
> > bounces+es+julie.sigrist=airbornemx....@lists.frameusers.com>> On
> > bounces+Behalf Of
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 9:45 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> >
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> > ww.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>>
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Framers  > >
> >
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bo
> <
> >
> bounces+mailto:bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com@lists.frameuser
> s
> > bounces+.com%3cmailto:bo>
> > u
> > >
> bounces+nces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com > >
> bounces+nces+lto:bounces+nces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com@lists.f
> > > bounces+nces+rameusers.com>>>
> > On
> > > bounces+Behalf
> > > Of Julie A. Sigrist
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:38 AM
> > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com > > ilto:framers@lists.frameusers.com%3cmailto:framers@lists.frameusers.
> > > com>>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> > >
> > > The icon with three squares is a "Group". I've never used the group
> > > feature so would have to do some research before answering further.
> > >
> > > Julie Sigrist
> > >
> >
> http://www.airbornemx.com<http://www.airbornemx.com><http://www.air
> bor
> >
> nemx.com<http://www.airbornemx.com>><http://www.air<http://www.air>
> > bor
> > >
> nemx.com/<http://nemx.com><http://www

Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Tammy Van Boening]

So, in the online "help" for FM2019, there's a section about all the different 
things that you can add to a book, and there is a single entry that states 
"learn more about groups and how to add them," yet there is not a single 
explanation about what a group is/does and that statement is not even a link as 
the text implies. GRRR. . .  

This list, as usual, is the source of help.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Julie A. Sigrist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
> The difference between using a folder and a group when organizing files in a
> book is that you can't control the volume, chapter, etc. hierarchy in a group 
> as
> you can in a folder structure.
> 
> Julie Sigrist
> 
> 
> From: Framers  bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of
> Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 9:45 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  >
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bo
> u
> > bounces+nces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com>>
> On
> > bounces+Behalf
> > Of Julie A. Sigrist
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:38 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> >
> > The icon with three squares is a "Group". I've never used the group
> > feature so would have to do some research before answering further.
> >
> > Julie Sigrist
> >
> http://www.airbornemx.com<http://www.airbornemx.com><http://www.air
> bor
> > nemx.com/<http://www.airbornemx.com/>>
> > From: Framers  > bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bounc
> > bounces+es+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com>> On
> > bounces+Behalf Of
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 3:36 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> > Subject: [Framers] Section in a book
> >
> > OK All,
> >
> > Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't
> > touched in a year for some things and like 7 years for others (no
> > joke). The book is in FM2019. I have a book structure where there is a
> > component that I have named Section followed by a manually entered
> > section number, such as Section 1, Section 2, etc. it's simply a
> > divider in the book that shows the different sections of the book. The
> > icon for it is a square w/ three little squares in it and I can
> > expand/collapse this icon to show all the actual FM files underneath the
> section indicator.
> >
> > OK, how in the frick' did I create these little placeholders that
> > aren't FM files, but just placeholders in the overall book structure
> > to keep/maintain different groups of files in the book? For the life
> > of me, I can't figure out how I did this and I don't see any option in
> > the icon/toolbar above the book for adding a book section. G. . .
> >
> > I have googled this and also used the FM2019 help to no avail, and I
> > desperately need to add a few more sections to this book.
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> > TVB (whose aging mind is showing w/ this question!)
> >
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> >
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> > ww.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>>
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Johan Anglemark
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 1:58 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
>Hi Tammy,
> 
>This message certainly made it to the list, even if you for some reason
>didn't get it.
> 
>    -j
> 
>On 2023-09-11 21:36, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> 
> OK All,
> 
> Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't touched in a
> y ear for some things and like 7 years for others (no joke). The book is in
> FM2019 . I have a book structure where there is a component that I have
> named Section f ollowed by a  manually entered section number, such as
> Section 1, Section 2, et c. it's simply a divider in the book that shows the
> different sections of the bo ok. The icon for it is a square w/ three little 
> squares
> in it and I can expand/c ollapse this icon to show all the actual FM files
> underneath the section indicat or.
> 
> OK, how in the frick' did I create these little placeholders that aren't FM 
> file s,
> but just placeholders in the overall book structure to keep/maintain differen 
> t
> groups of files in the book? For the life of me, I can't figure out how I did 
> this
> and I don't see any option in the icon/toolbar above the book for adding a
> book section. G. . .
> 
> I have googled this and also used the FM2019 help to no avail, and I
> desperately  need to add a few more sections to this book.
> 
> TIA!
> 
> TVB (whose aging mind is showing w/ this question!)
> 
> 
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Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you

Tammy Van Boening
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> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Julie A. Sigrist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:38 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
> The icon with three squares is a "Group". I've never used the group feature so
> would have to do some research before answering further.
> 
> Julie Sigrist
> http://www.airbornemx.com<http://www.airbornemx.com/>
> From: Framers  bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of
> Tammy Van Boening
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> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Section in a book
> 
> OK All,
> 
> Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't touched in a
> year for some things and like 7 years for others (no joke). The book is in
> FM2019. I have a book structure where there is a component that I have
> named Section followed by a manually entered section number, such as
> Section 1, Section 2, etc. it's simply a divider in the book that shows the
> different sections of the book. The icon for it is a square w/ three little 
> squares
> in it and I can expand/collapse this icon to show all the actual FM files
> underneath the section indicator.
> 
> OK, how in the frick' did I create these little placeholders that aren't FM 
> files,
> but just placeholders in the overall book structure to keep/maintain different
> groups of files in the book? For the life of me, I can't figure out how I did 
> this
> and I don't see any option in the icon/toolbar above the book for adding a
> book section. G. . .
> 
> I have googled this and also used the FM2019 help to no avail, and I
> desperately need to add a few more sections to this book.
> 
> TIA!
> 
> TVB (whose aging mind is showing w/ this question!)
> 
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>
> 
> 
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[Framers] Section in a book

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK All,

Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't touched in a 
year for some things and like 7 years for others (no joke). The book is in 
FM2019. I have a book structure where there is a component that I have named 
Section followed by a  manually entered section number, such as  Section 1, 
Section 2, etc. it's simply a divider in the book that shows the different 
sections of the book. The icon for it is a square w/ three little squares in it 
and I can expand/collapse this icon to show all the actual FM files underneath 
the section indicator.

OK, how in the frick' did I create these little placeholders that aren't FM 
files, but just placeholders in the overall book structure to keep/maintain 
different groups of files in the book? For the life of me, I can't figure out 
how I did this and I don't see any option in the icon/toolbar above the book 
for adding a book section. G. . .

I have googled this and also used the FM2019 help to no avail, and I 
desperately need to add a few more sections to this book.

TIA!

TVB (whose aging mind is showing w/ this question!)


Tammy Van Boening
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www.spectrumwritingllc.com




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Re: [Framers] ANN: Free FrameMaker Generated Files Course

[Tammy Van Boening]

Just checking if my replies come through. I have NOT been able to post original 
questions to the list and I cannot get admin assistance, so if this works, then 
I am going to have to skirt the issue for now and use a reply to do my posts.

I am sorry for any list rules that I am breaking, but I am being hung out to 
dry right now.

Thanks!

TVB


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> Subject: [Framers] ANN: Free FrameMaker Generated Files Course
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Take a look at my comprehensive FrameMaker Generated Files videos on
> YouTube:
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Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables

[Tammy Van Boening]

I have this script and it's worth every penny!!!

Highly recommend.

TVB

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> Subject: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> FrameMaker changebars work well in text, but it is difficult to put a 
> changebar
> next to an entire table. I have a free scripting solution that puts a nice
> changebar along the whole height of a table. Please see my Store page for a
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Re: [Framers] Adobe removes functionality from a perpetual license? Adobe

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hey,

Someone pinged me offlist about this and questioned me about something that I 
had stated: (Users w/ versions 2017 and older have the option to download 
updates to resolve this issue.)  

Yes, it should have been (Users w/ versions 2017 and newer have the option to 
download updates to resolve this issue.)  I am just so fried about this that I 
didn't proofread my post. Sorry for any confusion.

  

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[Framers] Adobe removes functionality from a perpetual license? Adobe response???

[Tammy Van Boening]

Warning: LONG POST!!!

I have Framemaker 2019 (the last version for which a perpetual license was 
sold) and Adobe Acrobat Pro XI (a perpetual license) and have successfully used 
this combination for years to create Reader-Extended PDFs that my users can 
comment on for editing purposes. As old as Acrobat Pro is, I have NOT needed to 
upgrade to any version as I use only this basic function in it. Yesterday, out 
of the blue, after creating a Reader-Extended PDF that was enabled for 
commenting and measuring, I received the following Error message: You do not 
have permission to write to this file.  To say that I was stumped was an 
understatement. I am an independent contractor and therefore, the account that 
I use for my business systems is my Administrator account - full privileges to 
do anything and everything that I need/want to do - and I couldn't fathom why I 
was getting this message/ how it was being generated.  I thought that perhaps 
at first it had to with a hiccup caused by a recent Windows update. (If
  you recall, a Windows update a few years back torpedoed the Adobe PDF engine 
and users were unable to generate PDFs from Framemaker, Word, etc.)

I reached out to Rick Quatro for assistance as it was related to PDF generation 
and after a bit of sleuthing on his part, he came across this post from Adobe 
(just put an https:// in front of this): 
helpx.adobe.com/ca/acrobat/kb/reader-extended-pdfs-and-adobe-root-ca-expiry.html.

In a nutshell, this post states that Adobe is removing functionality from its 
Acrobat products, including those that had a perpetual license and the ONLY 
option that a user has who owns an Acrobat version older than 2017 is to 
upgrade to the latest version. (Users w/ versions 2017 and older have the 
option to download updates to resolve this issue.)  I won't get into the 
details of the visceral response that this elicited in me, but has anyone EVER 
had an issue with any other vendor besides Adobe removing functionality from an 
application for which you purchased a perpetual license? I am not referring to 
support - I totally understand why a vendor no longer provides updates/supports 
for older versions of SW, but removing functionality to force you to upgrade? 
This does not remotely strike me as ethical, let alone, can it be legal? The 
real icing on the cake is that without a formal warning/announcement sent to 
the affected users, how would you even know that this would be an issue? R
 ealistically, would a user of a perpetual license go to the vendor's website 
to look specifically for an announcement because you just were wondering if you 
were going to lose functionality in your application?

Adobe keeps putting nail after nail into the coffins of some of its most loyal 
users (I have been a Framemaker user since 1996) and it's for reasons such as 
this that I have recommended MadCap Flare or other vendor products for my most 
recent client projects.

Does anybody from Adobe care to comment about this? As an IC that is 
semi-retired and that is on a tight budget, having to upgrade to a subscription 
license just to get the most basic of functionality that I thought that I 
should always have because I purchased a PERPETUAL license is unfathomable to 
me and not remotely financially feasible and several other users w/ whom I have 
spoken.

Thanks!

TVB


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[Framers] OT: Website assistance

[Tammy Van Boening]

I know that this list is for Framers, but as we are all in tech communication, 
I figured it was worth a shot:

I have a need for assistance in recovering my website from web.archives.org 
(scraping the site, if you will) and restoring it to my domain through GoDaddy. 
I had a very reasonable quote yesterday from an individual consultant who does 
this, but when I reached back out to today to give him all the necessary 
information, not only did he not show up for our planned meeting time, but also 
he hasn't returned a phone call/email, which means that I am not comfortable w/ 
the vendor and am moving on.

The site would be in WordPress and it's not particularly involved or 
complicated. I simply don't have the time or quite frankly, the mindset at this 
point to do this work.

Please contact me offlist if you know someone or are interested in doing this.

Regards,

TVB


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Re: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Ditto about the feature!

TVB

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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?
> 
> Hi Sue:
> 
> I can't shed any light on the feature's operation, but I would like to ask 
> where
> I can find this option within the program.
> 
> (I was the one who entered the feature request into Adobe's system and
> was kept updated as it progressed through the development phase - but I've
> never been able to find it, or find something on the web to explain it to me
> so I can actually use the feature).
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> I am using the new feature for highlighting variables but I would like to 
> define
> custom colours because the options provided obscure the content of the
> variable. Does anyone know of a way to add custom colours (or reduce the
> opacity) to the list?
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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

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> -Original Message-
> From: Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 11:12 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: RE: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...
> 
> Ugh, I had a longtime client that switched from Framemaker to Flare because
> they initially thought that they wanted only OLH, but when their clients
> complained that they just wanted their gold standard PDF manuals back,
> sigh. . . .it was too late. We spent an extra 20% on screwing around getting
> PDFs in Flare just right as a result . . . Flare is superb for OLH, but for 
> classic
> PDFs, nothing beats Framemaker.
> 
> You were such a stalwart on this list for so long!!! And you are right . . 
> .it was
> grand while it lasted.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Tammy Van Boening]

Ugh, I had a longtime client that switched from Framemaker to Flare because 
they initially thought that they wanted only OLH, but when their clients 
complained that they just wanted their gold standard PDF manuals back, sigh. . 
. .it was too late. We spent an extra 20% on screwing around getting PDFs in 
Flare just right as a result . . . Flare is superb for OLH, but for classic 
PDFs, nothing beats Framemaker. 

You were such a stalwart on this list for so long!!! And you are right . . .it 
was grand while it lasted.



Tammy Van Boening
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www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Tammy Van Boening]

Au contraire! Your name is definitely a known entity on the list!

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> Well, my name is not a regular one, but I've been reading this list for many,
> many years and I'm very fond of so many of you!
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> Happy New Year.
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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Tammy Van Boening]

Oh Keith, your name was definitely one of the names that was a constant when it 
came to the regular list crowd!!!

> I think you are right, Tammy. FrameMaker is an old-school product and Adobe 
> doesn't seem to be doing much to promote or improve it. I watched the webinar 
> for the new release a few months ago and I was distinctly underwhelmed. 
> That's not going to bring new users to the list.

In my own case, I was laid off (with some rejoicing) in late 2018. I thought I 
might try to land some short-term work, but then various life events and the 
pandemic hit, and I now consider myself retired. I am not sure why I'm still 
subscribed here since I don't have a personal copy of Frame but I do 
occasionally look in to see what's going. I should look at my archived material 
from work to see if I could repurpose any of it into a blog post, but the last 
version of Frame I used was FrameMaker 2010, there's probably not much point.

It was fun while it lasted though.

Regards
Keith<


Tammy Van Boening
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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Tammy Van Boening]

>We typically see the most traffic when something new or radically different is 
>either announced or launched< 

and doesn't work as expected or is designed so poorly, that its use is far from 
intuitive or user-friendly, if I might add that caveat. Unfortunately, the most 
traffic these days is definitely for these Whiskey/Tango/Foxtrot moments that 
Frame can launch at us.

And yep, I mentioned "long in the tooth" because I, too, can definitely be 
filed in that category. 

 And nope, not dead yet either, but I will be after 
working on this one particular client software project. . . So far, the 
majority of the app has been Whiskey/Tango/Foxtrot moments and trying to figure 
out why the client is hell bent on leather reinveinting the wheel in terms of 
Windows standards. 



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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Tammy Van Boening]

I don't think it's a List issue. It's just that the vast majority of users on 
the list are getting long in the tooth (if they haven't already retired), so 
list traffic has dropped exponentially. Makes me feel a tad lonely and sad 
after being an active member for almost 25 years!! The names that still ring in 
my head that were once so very active on the list . . . 

I do know that if you post a question, there's a stalwart group of us left 
(Alison, Mike,  Peter Gold, Fred Ridder, Lin Sims, me, Rick and several others) 
who will always answer.

I do agree with Craig - us few survivors are darn near experts at this point 
(save the one or two Whiskey/Tango/Foxtrot  moments that Frame can still 
provide) and the position of FrameMaker in the marketplace probably doesn't 
support its fervent use any more. I am just glad that I will be fully retired 
before I witness it's death.

Here's to a happy and healthy 2023 for all of us.

Tammy Van Boening
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Re: [Framers] Graphics question

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Left out the "No Joy" after the OK part. . . 

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[Framers] cross-ref format question

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK, let's try another question for the day.  .  .

In a manual that I am writing, I have the terms "in vitro," "in vivo," and "in 
situ" italicized as they always should be in section titles, body text, figure 
captions, etc. So, I need to make some x-refs to some of these section titles, 
for example, here is one of the section titles, which is a paragraph tag of 
Head2:


in vitro measurements in recombinant P450 enzymes (rCYP)

When I select this paragraph as the tag that I want for my x-ref and then 
insert the x-ref, the x-ref is not holding the italics for the in vitro 
portion. The in vitro portion is just plain old straight up and down . . . what 
do I have to do to the x-ref format to ensure that only the in vitro portion is 
italicized and nothing else, if that's even possible.

TVB

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Re: [Framers] Graphics question

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK, and I have an idea as to why, but it's just not worth the brain death to 
fix the issue. At this point, it's just easier to manually add the bottom 
border line and move on.  I do appreciate all the replies.

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 12:44 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Graphics question
> 
> Thank you! I will give this a try.
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On
> > Behalf Of Tom Beiswenger
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 12:32 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Graphics question
> >
> > Tammy,
> >
> > Not sure that this will help, but every MS file - Word, PowerPoint,
> > Excel - are also zip files. If you right-click on the file name,
> > you'll see a menu that includes 7-zip and an option to open the
> > archive file. In the xl folder, you should see a media folder. If
> > there are any graphics in the Excel file, they will be listed individually 
> > there.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Tom Beiswenger
> > Mgr. IB Technical Documentation Project Manager
> >
> > Bucher Emhart Glass
> > Emhart Glass Manufacturing Inc.
> > 74 Kahler Road North, Horseheads, NY 14845, USA T +1 607 735 2600, D
> > +1 607
> > 735 2551 M + 607 769 4779 bucheremhartglass.com
> >
> > LinkedIn
> >
> > Privacy policy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > bounces+tom.beiswenger=emhartglass@lists.frameusers.com> On
> > Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 12:35 PM
> > To: Framers List 
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Graphics question
> >
> > OK,
> >
> > This is kinda' a combination question, and I hope that I can
> > articulate the issue what I am running into. I have many Excel
> > charts/graphics that I must incorporate into a manual. My SME has
> > provided these graphics in an Excel spreadsheet, with one graphic per
> tab/sheet.
> >
> > I have Excel 2016, and there is a known issue that Microsoft NEVER
> > bothered to fix in that the Save As Picture option on the graphic
> > context menu (right- click the any border of the graphic to open the
> > context menu) just got nuked/blown away after some long ago updates
> > and never added back in to the menu, so the workaround is to
> > right-click the graphic, select Copy, and then Paste the copied
> > graphic into a blank PPT slide. You can then right-click on the
> > graphic in PPT and the Save as Picture option is there, so I do this
> > and then save the picture as a PNG and it looks just as expected with
> borders, legends . . . Nothing is missing in the pasted graphic.
> >
> > Now, in both the pasted graphic in PPT and in the saved PNG when
> > opened in SnagIT, the bottom border of the graphic is clearly
> > displayed - you can see all four borders (top, bottom, and right and
> > left sides); however, when I then import the graphic by reference into
> > an anchored frame in Framemaker (2019, 64-bit), the bottom border
> > NEVER shows - I thought that maybe it was just a display funkiness in
> > the source file, but when I save the source file as a PDF, and open
> > the PDF and even increase the magnification, the bottom border is just
> > not showing, so after I save the chart as a PNG in SnagIt, I then have
> > to manually draw in the bottom border over the bottom border that is
> > already displayed and then I can save the PNG and import it and the
> bottom border shows. Does this even  make sense?
> >
> > If anyone has any ideas as to why I am seeing this quirk and what to
> > do about it, I would sincerely appreciate it.
> >
> > TVB
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> >
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> > e
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> >
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Re: [Framers] Graphics question

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you! I will give this a try.

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Tom Beiswenger
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 12:32 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Graphics question
> 
> Tammy,
> 
> Not sure that this will help, but every MS file - Word, PowerPoint, Excel - 
> are
> also zip files. If you right-click on the file name, you'll see a menu that
> includes 7-zip and an option to open the archive file. In the xl folder, you
> should see a media folder. If there are any graphics in the Excel file, they 
> will
> be listed individually there.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Beiswenger
> Mgr. IB Technical Documentation Project Manager
> 
> Bucher Emhart Glass
> Emhart Glass Manufacturing Inc.
> 74 Kahler Road North, Horseheads, NY 14845, USA T +1 607 735 2600, D +1 607
> 735 2551 M + 607 769 4779 bucheremhartglass.com
> 
> LinkedIn
> 
> Privacy policy
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Framers  bounces+tom.beiswenger=emhartglass@lists.frameusers.com> On
> Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 12:35 PM
> To: Framers List 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Graphics question
> 
> OK,
> 
> This is kinda' a combination question, and I hope that I can articulate the 
> issue
> what I am running into. I have many Excel charts/graphics that I must
> incorporate into a manual. My SME has provided these graphics in an Excel
> spreadsheet, with one graphic per tab/sheet.
> 
> I have Excel 2016, and there is a known issue that Microsoft NEVER bothered
> to fix in that the Save As Picture option on the graphic context menu (right-
> click the any border of the graphic to open the context menu) just got
> nuked/blown away after some long ago updates and never added back in to
> the menu, so the workaround is to right-click the graphic, select Copy, and
> then Paste the copied graphic into a blank PPT slide. You can then right-click
> on the graphic in PPT and the Save as Picture option is there, so I do this 
> and
> then save the picture as a PNG and it looks just as expected with borders,
> legends . . . Nothing is missing in the pasted graphic.
> 
> Now, in both the pasted graphic in PPT and in the saved PNG when opened
> in SnagIT, the bottom border of the graphic is clearly displayed - you can see
> all four borders (top, bottom, and right and left sides); however, when I then
> import the graphic by reference into an anchored frame in Framemaker
> (2019, 64-bit), the bottom border NEVER shows - I thought that maybe it was
> just a display funkiness in the source file, but when I save the source file 
> as a
> PDF, and open the PDF and even increase the magnification, the bottom
> border is just not showing, so after I save the chart as a PNG in SnagIt, I 
> then
> have to manually draw in the bottom border over the bottom border that is
> already displayed and then I can save the PNG and import it and the bottom
> border shows. Does this even  make sense?
> 
> If anyone has any ideas as to why I am seeing this quirk and what to do about
> it, I would sincerely appreciate it.
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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[Framers] Graphics question

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK,

This is kinda' a combination question, and I hope that I can articulate the 
issue what I am running into. I have many Excel charts/graphics that I must 
incorporate into a manual. My SME has provided these graphics in an Excel 
spreadsheet, with one graphic per tab/sheet.

I have Excel 2016, and there is a known issue that Microsoft NEVER bothered to 
fix in that the Save As Picture option on the graphic context menu (right-click 
the any border of the graphic to open the context menu) just got nuked/blown 
away after some long ago updates and never added back in to the menu, so the 
workaround is to right-click the graphic, select Copy, and then Paste the 
copied graphic into a blank PPT slide. You can then right-click on the graphic 
in PPT and the Save as Picture option is there, so I do this and then save the 
picture as a PNG and it looks just as expected with borders, legends . . . 
Nothing is missing in the pasted graphic.

Now, in both the pasted graphic in PPT and in the saved PNG when opened in 
SnagIT, the bottom border of the graphic is clearly displayed - you can see all 
four borders (top, bottom, and right and left sides); however, when I then 
import the graphic by reference into an anchored frame in Framemaker (2019, 
64-bit), the bottom border NEVER shows - I thought that maybe it was just a 
display funkiness in the source file, but when I save the source file as a PDF, 
and open the PDF and even increase the magnification, the bottom border is just 
not showing, so after I save the chart as a PNG in SnagIt, I then have to 
manually draw in the bottom border over the bottom border that is already 
displayed and then I can save the PNG and import it and the bottom border 
shows. Does this even  make sense?

If anyone has any ideas as to why I am seeing this quirk and what to do about 
it, I would sincerely appreciate it.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 backwards compatibility?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi All,

Thank you for the responses. Yes, from my extensive googling and pounding
through the forums, it does seem that FM 10 and 12 both run just fine on
Windows 10. And based on the statement that I pulled from HowToGeek, that
would make sense; however, as only FM2015 is explicitly called out as being
compatible with Win 10, I am understandingly a bit hesitant, but I probably
won't have a choice. 

Carrier pigeon anyone?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 12:52 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Windows 10 backwards compatibility?

FM 10 and 12 run on my Windows 10 system with no issues. Not sure about
Acrobat as I avoid it when I can other than to convert files to PDF or to
read them. That works fine, but I don't know about other functions in there.

Bernard



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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 2:41 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Windows 10 backwards compatibility?

All,

 

I might be forced to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 Ultimate. (The
reasons are not important.) I have FM 10, FM 12 and Adobe Acrobat Pro XI
currently installed. Here is a comment that I found on HowToGeek's website:



*

Microsoft's Windows 10 seems like a big change. The version number alone is
a big leap from Windows 7, and most of the default apps are new-style
"universal apps," not traditional desktop apps.

But, if you depend on traditional Windows desktop applications, you
shouldn't worry. Don't let Windows 10's new look fool you - if an
application ran on Windows 7, it should also run on Windows 10.



*

 

But, is this true? Will FM 10 and 12 and Adobe Acrobat XI run on Windows 10?
(64-bit system). Have any of you had experience (good/bad/indifferent)
running these programs on Windows 10?

 

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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[Framers] Windows 10 backwards compatibility?

[Tammy Van Boening]

All,

 

I might be forced to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 Ultimate. (The
reasons are not important.) I have FM 10, FM 12 and Adobe Acrobat Pro XI
currently installed. Here is a comment that I found on HowToGeek's website:



*

Microsoft's Windows 10 seems like a big change. The version number alone is
a big leap from Windows 7, and most of the default apps are new-style
"universal apps," not traditional desktop apps.

But, if you depend on traditional Windows desktop applications, you
shouldn't worry. Don't let Windows 10's new look fool you - if an
application ran on Windows 7, it should also run on Windows 10.



*

 

But, is this true? Will FM 10 and 12 and Adobe Acrobat XI run on Windows 10?
(64-bit system). Have any of you had experience (good/bad/indifferent)
running these programs on Windows 10?

 

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Reverse engineer Robohelp in to Framemaker?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you!!!

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755

-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:38 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Reverse engineer Robohelp in to Framemaker?

Have you linked FrameMaker projects to RoboHelp before? If not, and
FrameMaker's subset of RoboHelp features don't do the trick for you, my
cheat sheet might help make up for Adobe's weak documentation on the
subject.

http://lauriston.com/fm10_link_to_rh9.zip

On 12/18/17, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com> wrote:
> You could output to Word and import that in FrameMaker.
>
> Or if you can get your hands on a copy of Flare, import the RoboHelp 
> projects and export them to FrameMaker.
>
> On 12/18/17, Tammy Van Boening <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>> So, I have no idea if this is even possible/ever been tried, but for 
>> a variety of reasons that aren't important here, I have inherited a 
>> truckload of CHM projects done in Robohelp directly - not from Frame 
>> to RH. Is there anyway at all, whatsoever, to reverse engineer these 
>> and get them into FM, even w/ rudimentary formatting and I could take 
>> it from there?
>
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[Framers] Defining a variable

[Tammy Van Boening]

I am defining a new user variable for a document that I am working on, and
the variable is titled "Documentation Type" and it is set to "Product X
Technical Documentation." I have another user-defined variable titled "Book
Name" that is set to  and is updated accordingly when used in a book.
Is there a way to define the Documentation Type variable so that it includes
the user-defined variable of Book Name like this: 

 

Product X Technical Documentation:  so that when the Book Name
variable is updated for a book, the Documentation Type variable also gets
updated? I know you can't use system variables when defining user variables,
but can a user-defined variable be used when defining another user variable?

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

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[Framers] Reverse engineer Robohelp in to Framemaker?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK, 

 

So, I have no idea if this is even possible/ever been tried, but for a
variety of reasons that aren't important here, I have inherited a truckload
of CHM projects done in Robohelp directly - not from Frame to RH. Is there
anyway at all, whatsoever, to reverse engineer these and get them into FM,
even w/ rudimentary formatting and I could take it from there?

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi All,

In my bucket of Framemscripts, I have one called
ImportandFormatWordDocs.fsl. It's been a long while since I have used this
script, but this coupled with Silicon Prairie's tool might get you what you
want much faster.  Let me know if you are interested in receiving a copy of
this script.



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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

At 16:50 + 11/12/17, Pat Christenson wrote:
>Hi all -
>
>If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a way to
disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker paragraph,
character, and table catalogs?

Tangential to your issue, but SiliconPrairie's Paragraph Tools plug-in has
the ability to delete all unused paragraph formats. I have found this very
useful for cleaning up all the mess that Word import leaves behind.

--
Steve
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Re: [Framers] Autonumber format?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK all. Thanks! That is what I thought - that a tab will work just fine. 

Thanks again!

TVB



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On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:22 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Autonumber format?

\sn is the "escape" code for an en-space.

Using an en-space will give you a space that is always relative to the
specified autonumbering string, whereas a tab will give you an absolute
alignment for the following text. This matters when you have an autonumber
string that can vary in length (e.g., a one-digit number vs. 2 or 3 digits).
In your case, with a fixed autonumber string (i.e., constant text only), it
makes no practical difference.


-FR



From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on
behalf of Tammy Van Boening <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:29 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Autonumber format?

Hi All,



I have inherited a template that has been manhandled by a gazillion authors
over the years with tons of overrides, etc., and I am in the throes of
trying to clean it up and simplify it greatly. For one of the paragraph tags
in this quagmire, the autonumbering is set to the following:



Required Knowns:\sn and there is a tab stop set to a value of .65.



When I click to place this tag in the document, I do indeed see the phrase
"Required Knowns:" automatically placed, but that is the backslash sn  (\sn)
do?  Can this not be replaced by the \t building block and set the value
accordingly?



Thanks!



TVB



FM 12, Win7, 64 bit







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[Framers] Autonumber format?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi All,

 

I have inherited a template that has been manhandled by a gazillion authors
over the years with tons of overrides, etc., and I am in the throes of
trying to clean it up and simplify it greatly. For one of the paragraph tags
in this quagmire, the autonumbering is set to the following:

 

Required Knowns:\sn and there is a tab stop set to a value of .65.

 

When I click to place this tag in the document, I do indeed see the phrase
"Required Knowns:" automatically placed, but that is the backslash sn  (\sn)
do?  Can this not be replaced by the \t building block and set the value
accordingly?

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

FM 12, Win7, 64 bit

 

 

 

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Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com/> 

303-840-1755 (Mountain Time)

 

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Re: [Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that is on a master page

[Tammy Van Boening]

Well, apparently, you cannot use the <$chapnum> building block as part of a
system variable because there is a system variable called Chapter Number
already (thanks Rick) So, did a quick redo of my tags (actually
simplified some things as a result) and I should be plodding forward in this
template (no, definitely NOT moving forward right now - just plodding.)

TVB

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On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that
is on a master page

Hi All,

 

I  have inherited a template that needs to be greatly simplified. In the
Master pages of this template, there is a page called "First," and on this
page, there is a Header Text frame. In this frame, I have placed the system
Variable Running H/F 1, and I have defined this variable as
Chapter:<$chapnum>. The Numbering Properties for the first chapter in the
book is set to Chapter 1, Numeric Format, and the Numbering properties for
all subsequent chapters in the book are set to Continue Numbering from
Previous Chapter, Numeric Format.

 

Sounds simple, right? Well, no matter what I do, after saving and updating
all files in this book, what is showing on the Body page is Chapter:
<$chapnum

 

Yep, just like that - the partial variable definition of $chapnum instead of
the actual chapter number. I am at a complete loss for this - I have never
seen this before. The variable is fully contained in the header text frame
and when I click on it on the Master Page to edit it, I see the variable
completely and properly defined, so why it is displaying like this, I can't
explain. I have never seen this before.

 

FM 12, Win 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.

 

TIA,

 

TVB  

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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[Framers] Question about using a building block in a variable that is on a master page

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi All,

 

I  have inherited a template that needs to be greatly simplified. In the
Master pages of this template, there is a page called "First," and on this
page, there is a Header Text frame. In this frame, I have placed the system
Variable Running H/F 1, and I have defined this variable as
Chapter:<$chapnum>. The Numbering Properties for the first chapter in the
book is set to Chapter 1, Numeric Format, and the Numbering properties for
all subsequent chapters in the book are set to Continue Numbering from
Previous Chapter, Numeric Format.

 

Sounds simple, right? Well, no matter what I do, after saving and updating
all files in this book, what is showing on the Body page is Chapter:
<$chapnum

 

Yep, just like that - the partial variable definition of $chapnum instead of
the actual chapter number. I am at a complete loss for this - I have never
seen this before. The variable is fully contained in the header text frame
and when I click on it on the Master Page to edit it, I see the variable
completely and properly defined, so why it is displaying like this, I can't
explain. I have never seen this before.

 

FM 12, Win 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.

 

TIA,

 

TVB  

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

[Tammy Van Boening]

So, I just deleted them and re-created them w/ the paragraph tag needed in
the second cell and saved the format and now all is good. Thanks Rick!!!

TVB

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On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:50 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

Hi Rick,

Yep, I tried that and every time I insert the table, the paragraph tag in
the second cell is still set to NoteTipText, not NoteTipTextAnchor.  I am
wondering if I need to delete these formats and set up from scratch??

Thanks!

TVB


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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:33 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

After you get an example of your table set up on a body page, click in the
table, open the Table Designer, and click Update All. The next time you
insert one of these tables, it should have the desired paragraph formats.

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Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

OK,

 

I know somehow I did this a gazillion years ago (well, I >>THINK<< I did),
but for the life of me, I can't remember/figure out how. 

 

I have a two cell table, one row table called NoteTipTable saved in my
Designer. In the first cell, I place one of the following paragraph tags
manually - NoteAnchor or TipAnchor. For these tags, the Below Paragraph
characteristic is set to NoteGraphic or TipGraphic accordingly, and the
correct graphic is pulled in from the Reference page. For the second cell, I
always need a tag called NoteTipAnchor placed, and then after a hard return,
the Next paragraph is NoteTipText, but this text is dynamic based on the
Note or Tip that I am writing at the time.   

 

Is there any way at all in the Table Designer to have this NoteTipAnchor tag
placed automatically in the second cell of the table? I can't pull it in
from the Reference page as the text that it holds is not static. 

 

I know that there will be many questions as to this setup, but there's a
whole lot of other stuff behind this set up that isn't pertinent to this
question. I just need a way to automatically drop this NoteTipAnchor tag in
to the second cell of this table automatically every time I insert the table
from the Designer.

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi Rick,

Yep, I tried that and every time I insert the table, the paragraph tag in
the second cell is still set to NoteTipText, not NoteTipTextAnchor.  I am
wondering if I need to delete these formats and set up from scratch??

Thanks!

TVB


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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755

-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:33 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

After you get an example of your table set up on a body page, click in the
table, open the Table Designer, and click Update All. The next time you
insert one of these tables, it should have the desired paragraph formats.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
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Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

OK,

 

I know somehow I did this a gazillion years ago (well, I >>THINK<< I did),
but for the life of me, I can't remember/figure out how. 

 

I have a two cell table, one row table called NoteTipTable saved in my
Designer. In the first cell, I place one of the following paragraph tags
manually - NoteAnchor or TipAnchor. For these tags, the Below Paragraph
characteristic is set to NoteGraphic or TipGraphic accordingly, and the
correct graphic is pulled in from the Reference page. For the second cell, I
always need a tag called NoteTipAnchor placed, and then after a hard return,
the Next paragraph is NoteTipText, but this text is dynamic based on the
Note or Tip that I am writing at the time.   

 

Is there any way at all in the Table Designer to have this NoteTipAnchor tag
placed automatically in the second cell of the table? I can't pull it in
from the Reference page as the text that it holds is not static. 

 

I know that there will be many questions as to this setup, but there's a
whole lot of other stuff behind this set up that isn't pertinent to this
question. I just need a way to automatically drop this NoteTipAnchor tag in
to the second cell of this table automatically every time I insert the table
from the Designer.

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yea, maybe from something like Silicon Prairie's Table Tool . . . that rings
a dull thud, but I think that I remember that gave me problems
single-sourcing to use ePub for OLH production. Will have to test and see.

Thanks Peter.

TVB

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From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 10:31 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

Is it possible that in the olden days, you imported or copied the
appropriately-set-up table from a separate file? Perhaps as a MIF snippet?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Tammy Van Boening <
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> OK,
>
>
>
> I know somehow I did this a gazillion years ago (well, I >>THINK<< I 
> did), but for the life of me, I can't remember/figure out how.
>
>
>
> I have a two cell table, one row table called NoteTipTable saved in my 
> Designer. In the first cell, I place one of the following paragraph 
> tags manually - NoteAnchor or TipAnchor. For these tags, the Below 
> Paragraph characteristic is set to NoteGraphic or TipGraphic 
> accordingly, and the correct graphic is pulled in from the Reference 
> page. For the second cell, I always need a tag called NoteTipAnchor 
> placed, and then after a hard return, the Next paragraph is 
> NoteTipText, but this text is dynamic based on the Note or Tip that I 
> am writing at the time.
>
>
>
> Is there any way at all in the Table Designer to have this 
> NoteTipAnchor tag placed automatically in the second cell of the 
> table? I can't pull it in from the Reference page as the text that it 
> holds is not static.
>
>
>
> I know that there will be many questions as to this setup, but there's 
> a whole lot of other stuff behind this set up that isn't pertinent to 
> this question. I just need a way to automatically drop this 
> NoteTipAnchor tag in to the second cell of this table automatically 
> every time I insert the table from the Designer.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Owner/Principal
>
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> 303-840-1755
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Nope, it's still there, or of course, there's the Page Up/Page Down keyboard
options as well.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

BTW, the keyboard shortcut for screen refresh is Ctrl+L (unless this is
something they made go away in recent versions...).


-FR



From: Framers  on
behalf of Craig Ede 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:17 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

Have you tried refreshing the screen? Is the extra text there if you print
to PDF? FM has some problems dealing with screen refreshing sometimes and
this may just be an example of that. (You can change the screen
magnification to see if that 'cleans' up the problem, too.)


Craig



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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:09 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Text Ghosting?

Hello,

I'm observing a weird phenomenon beginning at a particular point midway
through a graphic-intensive and conditional-text intensive 70-page
FrameMaker 7.2 document.  I Wonder if any of you mavens might have seen this
odd problem before, as I rarely have any problem with this FrameMaker
program and this is very novel for me.

Starting just after an inline graphic on page 67 , the two remaining words
in the sentence look  as though they skidded horizontally out of control.
"as needed" was weirdly morphed to display as something sort of like "aass
nnddeedd" except with the letters mostly superimposed over each other,
only slightly offset. Below that begins about two pages of conditional text,
turned on, in which the ghosting is vertical.  It's as though a paper sheet
was run through a printer twice, a little vertically offset the second time
so that you see each line ghosted 2-3 millimeters above another copy of the
same text.  The problem persist on printing and also on PDF creation.

There is something funky with a graphic-containing frame nearby: When I turn
on borders it shows a double line for its bottom border.  There is also an
"end of document" character floating about nearby and I have a feeling that
this is normally impossible (there is another end-of-document character at
the true end of the document ten pages later).

I'm having trouble deleting the text.  The pages before and after this
section look ok.

Am I hosed with a corrupt file or might there be hope?  Seem to have some
relief washing via MIF, but wanted to ask you experts. It won't let me
delete the offending section to paste in from the washed file.

Thanks for any advice.

Kevin Ryan

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[Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK,

 

I know somehow I did this a gazillion years ago (well, I >>THINK<< I did),
but for the life of me, I can't remember/figure out how. 

 

I have a two cell table, one row table called NoteTipTable saved in my
Designer. In the first cell, I place one of the following paragraph tags
manually - NoteAnchor or TipAnchor. For these tags, the Below Paragraph
characteristic is set to NoteGraphic or TipGraphic accordingly, and the
correct graphic is pulled in from the Reference page. For the second cell, I
always need a tag called NoteTipAnchor placed, and then after a hard return,
the Next paragraph is NoteTipText, but this text is dynamic based on the
Note or Tip that I am writing at the time.   

 

Is there any way at all in the Table Designer to have this NoteTipAnchor tag
placed automatically in the second cell of the table? I can't pull it in
from the Reference page as the text that it holds is not static. 

 

I know that there will be many questions as to this setup, but there's a
whole lot of other stuff behind this set up that isn't pertinent to this
question. I just need a way to automatically drop this NoteTipAnchor tag in
to the second cell of this table automatically every time I insert the table
from the Designer.

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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[Framers] OT/PSA for the creative writers on this list

[Tammy Van Boening]

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Re: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

[Tammy Van Boening]

LOL. So very true - sadly.

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:05 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
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Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

Today it would be:

"There is not enough budget to do a useful index, so look carefully through
the entire document."

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



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Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:23 PM
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techw...@lists.techwr-l.com
Subject: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

So, an excerpt from the introduction to the Sears, Roebuck and Company
catalogue, 1897:

 

"If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire
catalogue."

 

Wonder how that would go over in today's writing world? Think I should
preface all my indices with this disclaimer? 

 

TGIF,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

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Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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[Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

[Tammy Van Boening]

So, an excerpt from the introduction to the Sears, Roebuck and Company
catalogue, 1897:

 

"If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire
catalogue."

 

Wonder how that would go over in today's writing world? Think I should
preface all my indices with this disclaimer? 

 

TGIF,

 

TVB

 

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Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yea, that's what I do now and I have different files for different system
variables and user variables. I was tired of this. I wanted "one-stop"
shopping for variable importing and I have two solutions now.

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

At 10:14 -0600 28/6/17, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

>In the distant reaches of my mind, I seem to recall a tool that would 
>allow you to import only selected variables from one doc to another - 
>such as only system variables or only user-defines variables.  Am I 
>remembering correctly and if so, what is the name/where  can I get this
tool?

Hi Tammy

I don't remember a specific tool, but there is a technique that may be
helpful. It always worked for me, anyway:

Copy the file that contains the variable you want to import across multiple
files, then open the copy and delete every variable *other than* the
variable you want to import. Re-save the copy, then use that as your 'seed'
document to import the variable in question across multiple files.

This works as stated for user-defined variables. For system variables (from
memory) you have to be a bit more careful, as FrameMaker doesn't allow you
to delete them. I do not know of a way to import one system variable across
a population of files that have different system variable values. This is
where a tool (or Rick) could maybe help.

--
Steve
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Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

[Tammy Van Boening]

This would be MOST helpful when I need to import just specific user or
system variables. Ok, will also get this.

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:29 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

Hi Tammy...

BookVars lets you define a list of variable definitions (user and/or
system) in an external file (INI) and import those variables into a book or
individual files. You can create the INI file manually or by exporting
variable definitions from a selected file ..

 http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php

Cheers,
...scott



On 6/28/17 9:14 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> Happy Wednesday all.
>
>   
>
> In the distant reaches of my mind, I seem to recall a tool that would 
> allow you to import only selected variables from one doc to another - 
> such as only system variables or only user-defines variables.  Am I 
> remembering correctly and if so, what is the name/where  can I get this
tool?
>
>   
>
> If the tool never existed or is no longer available, then maybe this 
> sounds like a job for our super-scripter Rick Quatro?
>
>   
>
> TIA,
>
>   
>
> TVB
>
>   
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Owner/Principal
>
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> 303-840-1755
>
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Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you! Purchasing now.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

I use this script every day. Wouldn't be able to work without it.

Carol

 > On 6/28/2017 10:19:13 AM, Rick Quatro (r...@rickquatro.com) wrote:
 > > ImportFormatsSpecialES allows you to just import system variables
and/or  > user variables. You can't specify individual variables, but you
can just  > import one category or the other (or both). It also breaks down
document  > properties into different categories so you can choose which
ones you want  > to import.

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[Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

[Tammy Van Boening]

Happy Wednesday all.

 

In the distant reaches of my mind, I seem to recall a tool that would allow
you to import only selected variables from one doc to another - such as only
system variables or only user-defines variables.  Am I remembering correctly
and if so, what is the name/where  can I get this tool? 

 

If the tool never existed or is no longer available, then maybe this sounds
like a job for our super-scripter Rick Quatro?

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

[Tammy Van Boening]

OK, well, grumble, grumble, grumble . . . TIs can have a quirk or two, but
they usually can be resolved w/ fixes like this. No joy. . . .

Tammy Van Boening
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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
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On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

Thanks, Tammy -- all the tagging is identical. When I update one, I import
into the other to keep them in sync.


Art Campbell
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a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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   DoD 358


On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Tammy Van Boening <
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> Also, I know that each shared file is set up to use the host file's 
> formatting/settings, but if the shared file has exactly the same 
> paragraph tags w/ numbering schemes as the container file (and not 
> just inheriting stuff), this usually solves a problem or two w/ TIs.
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1755
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.
> c...@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 3:46 PM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating
>
> Art,
>
> Is the numbering for each shared file set to "Continue" and the same 
> for the container file? When you are importing the shared file into 
> the container file, on the Import Text Flow by Reference dialog box, 
> is Reformat Using Current Document's Formats selected as well as 
> Automatic for Updating of Imported Flow?
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1755
>
> -Original Message-
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> c...@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Art Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:40 AM
> To: Framers List <framers@lists.frameusers.com>; 
> writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com; tcs-users 
> <tcs-us...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating
>
> OK, here's the setup, in '17:
>
>1. Some shared chapter files are in a \Shares directory parallel to the
>discrete book directories.
>2. Each shared chapter file has a mini-TOC showing its H1s.
>3. Each book has a container file for the shared chapter with unique
>page furniture, chapter number/head, and intro paragraph.
>4. Each shared file is set up to use the host file's 
> formatting/settings.
>
> The problem is that when the book is updated, the mini-TOCs aren't 
> updated with the host book's page numbers, so the mini-TOC might say 
> the topic is on page 3 when it's really on 187. Mini-TOCs are supposed 
> to be updated with a book is refreshed.
>
> Any thoughts? Bug?
>
> Thanks,
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campb...@gmail.com
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> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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apply.
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Re: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

[Tammy Van Boening]

Also, I know that each shared file is set up to use the host file's
formatting/settings, but if the shared file has exactly the same paragraph
tags w/ numbering schemes as the container file (and not just inheriting
stuff), this usually solves a problem or two w/ TIs.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 3:46 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

Art,

Is the numbering for each shared file set to "Continue" and the same for the
container file? When you are importing the shared file into the container
file, on the Import Text Flow by Reference dialog box, is Reformat Using
Current Document's Formats selected as well as Automatic for Updating of
Imported Flow?



Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755

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On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:40 AM
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<tcs-us...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

OK, here's the setup, in '17:

   1. Some shared chapter files are in a \Shares directory parallel to the
   discrete book directories.
   2. Each shared chapter file has a mini-TOC showing its H1s.
   3. Each book has a container file for the shared chapter with unique
   page furniture, chapter number/head, and intro paragraph.
   4. Each shared file is set up to use the host file's formatting/settings.

The problem is that when the book is updated, the mini-TOCs aren't updated
with the host book's page numbers, so the mini-TOC might say the topic is on
page 3 when it's really on 187. Mini-TOCs are supposed to be updated with a
book is refreshed.

Any thoughts? Bug?

Thanks,
Art

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Re: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

[Tammy Van Boening]

Art,

Is the numbering for each shared file set to "Continue" and the same for the
container file? When you are importing the shared file into the container
file, on the Import Text Flow by Reference dialog box, is Reformat Using
Current Document's Formats selected as well as Automatic for Updating of
Imported Flow?



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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:40 AM
To: Framers List <framers@lists.frameusers.com>;
writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com; tcs-users
<tcs-us...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [Framers] Text insets with mini-TOCs not updating

OK, here's the setup, in '17:

   1. Some shared chapter files are in a \Shares directory parallel to the
   discrete book directories.
   2. Each shared chapter file has a mini-TOC showing its H1s.
   3. Each book has a container file for the shared chapter with unique
   page furniture, chapter number/head, and intro paragraph.
   4. Each shared file is set up to use the host file's formatting/settings.

The problem is that when the book is updated, the mini-TOCs aren't updated
with the host book's page numbers, so the mini-TOC might say the topic is on
page 3 when it's really on 187. Mini-TOCs are supposed to be updated with a
book is refreshed.

Any thoughts? Bug?

Thanks,
Art

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Re: [Framers] OT: Comment statuses when editing in Adobe Acrobat Pro

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thank you Art! 

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 9:30 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Comment statuses when editing in Adobe Acrobat
Pro

On my list for enhancements if/when Adobe starts up the Acrobat PreRelease
team again.


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On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Tammy Van Boening <
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> Yea, bummer, that's what I thought, but it was worth a shot.
>
> Thanks!
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1755
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.
> c...@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 5:57 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Comment statuses when editing in Adobe 
> Acrobat Pro
>
> I am by no means an Acrobat guru, but as far as I know, there's no way 
> to add a status type. Maybe you could use Accepted (which everyone who 
> opens the PDF could see) or a checkmark (which will only show for you)?
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Tammy Van Boening < 
> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>
> > Adobe Acrobat Pro XI.  I am working my way through a myriad of edits 
> > supplied by an engineer who mixed in inappropriate copy edits w/ the 
> > necessary technical edits. Oh joy .  .  . not. As I work my way 
> > through, I am setting the status of each comment and I am adding a 
> > reply
> where needed.
> > One status that I would very much like to be able to set some of 
> > these edits to is "In Progress" as for the valid technical edits, 
> > some of them must wait until a bug is fixed and the new version of 
> > SW is available. Is there a way to add this as an option? Right now, 
> > the "default" options of Reject, Cancelled, and Completed are OK for 
> > some situations (especially Rejected!) but an In Progress would 
> > really help for tracking purposes. Right now, I am simply adding a 
> > reply of "In Progress, " but it would be so much simpler to have 
> > this as a status option.
> >
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > TVB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> >
> > Owner/Principal
> >
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> >
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> >
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Re: [Framers] OT: Comment statuses when editing in Adobe Acrobat Pro

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yea, bummer, that's what I thought, but it was worth a shot.

Thanks!

TVB

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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 5:57 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Comment statuses when editing in Adobe Acrobat
Pro

I am by no means an Acrobat guru, but as far as I know, there's no way to
add a status type. Maybe you could use Accepted (which everyone who opens
the PDF could see) or a checkmark (which will only show for you)?

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Tammy Van Boening <
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> Adobe Acrobat Pro XI.  I am working my way through a myriad of edits 
> supplied by an engineer who mixed in inappropriate copy edits w/ the 
> necessary technical edits. Oh joy .  .  . not. As I work my way 
> through, I am setting the status of each comment and I am adding a reply
where needed.
> One status that I would very much like to be able to set some of these 
> edits to is "In Progress" as for the valid technical edits, some of 
> them must wait until a bug is fixed and the new version of SW is 
> available. Is there a way to add this as an option? Right now, the 
> "default" options of Reject, Cancelled, and Completed are OK for some 
> situations (especially Rejected!) but an In Progress would really help 
> for tracking purposes. Right now, I am simply adding a reply of "In 
> Progress, " but it would be so much simpler to have this as a status 
> option.
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Owner/Principal
>
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>
> Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> 303-840-1755
>
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[Framers] OT: Comment statuses when editing in Adobe Acrobat Pro

[Tammy Van Boening]

Adobe Acrobat Pro XI.  I am working my way through a myriad of edits
supplied by an engineer who mixed in inappropriate copy edits w/ the
necessary technical edits. Oh joy .  .  . not. As I work my way through, I
am setting the status of each comment and I am adding a reply where needed.
One status that I would very much like to be able to set some of these edits
to is "In Progress" as for the valid technical edits, some of them must wait
until a bug is fixed and the new version of SW is available. Is there a way
to add this as an option? Right now, the "default" options of Reject,
Cancelled, and Completed are OK for some situations (especially Rejected!)
but an In Progress would really help for tracking purposes. Right now, I am
simply adding a reply of "In Progress, " but it would be so much simpler to
have this as a status option.

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] Big thumbs up for Rick Quatro's latest script

[Tammy Van Boening]

I second the motion that this is an awesome script.  Webworks totally barfs on 
spaces in file names and this made a HUGE difference to me when single sourcing 
FM to Webworks output and I had either inherited files or had gotten slopping 
in my own file naming.

 I have no financial stake in this script. I am just another very 
satisfied customer. 


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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
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-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:41 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Big thumbs up for Rick Quatro's latest script

Definitely semi-spam, but who am I to complain? :-)

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:36 PM
To: Framers List; writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com; 
lone-tech-writ...@googlegroups.com; STC Lone Writer SIG
Subject: [Framers] Big thumbs up for Rick Quatro's latest script

OK, this may be semi-spam, but I just received a great FrameScript from Rick 
Quatro and wanted to share.

It rips through either a book or file and removes any spaces from files names, 
reference graphics, text insets, and other imported items.* Both in the Frame 
file and in the source file.*

W
hich means that documents written with Windows or Mac file naming conventions 
(or just sloppy file naming) HTML and UNIX compliant, a huge deal for those of 
us using Frame to output to multiple formats including HTML.

C
heers,
Art
​
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can
get it to work again is reboot - more often than not, just closing and
re-opening FM does not work for me at all. And yes, it is a big PITA, and
no, I cannot find any pattern/reason to this behavior either.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:26 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

Yeah, pretty much what Robert said. Frame8 was the last version where the
keyboard shortcuts worked as intended all the time. Something about
instituting the new interface broke things.

As someone who used to use those shortcuts ALL THE TIME, it's annoying that
some don't work ever, and that they all won't work some of the time as
described by Ken.

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
wrote:

> Upgrade to FrameMaker 8?
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > Folks,
> > At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all 
> > keyboard
> shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks 
> must be done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it 
> happened again this morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, 
> you know what I
> mean.)
> >
> > The only fix I know of is to close everything, exit FM, re-open FM 
> > and
> so forth. ...
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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive!!!!

[Tammy Van Boening]

LOL! Thanks Peter. I appreciate the positive spin that you have put on this . . 
. and yes, Nadine is right. I will drink to that.

TVB

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-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:56 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a 
shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive

The first time I ever saw FM, it was on a UNIX system, probably FM 2 or 
earlier. The tech writer showing it off blew my mind by using FM's built-in 
screen capture to shoot the screen and bring in the image, without missing a 
beat in the content-creation process. IIRC, there was an option to copy or 
import the captured image. So, we've seen generations and decades of regression 
and feature loss, yet we stick with Ol' Faithful because it does its basic job 
so well.

Yet, there's that other sticky issue - third-party providers whose tools don't 
keep up with change.

You've been around long enough to know that this stuff happens, and that the 
glitches which cause the frustration you've outlined here are NOT YOUR FAULT. 
So, rather than drinking yourself into oblivion, pat yourself on the back for 
having traced the issue to its core, and take pleasure in the gratitude of the 
community's thanks for adding to our knowledge, so others don't have to 
reinvent solutions for the problem.



On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Tammy Van Boening < 
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> The finale of all of this:
>
> It was a limitation, ultimately (pun intended), due to SnagIT on 
> Windows 7 Ultimate. Very long story – but the only .pngs that would 
> not open automatically in SnagIT were those imported into FM 12. 
> Outside FM12, no problem and no problem w/ any pngs in FM12 opening in 
> Windows Viewer, etc.
> So, I reached out to TechSmith and demonstrated the issue and they 
> agreed that it was a limit/problem due to SnagIT and although it 
> worked properly on Windows 7 Professional and therefore should on 
> Windows 7 Ultimate, my version was no longer a supported version. To 
> offset the pain, they gave me the upgrade price to the latest version 
> (even tho’ I was like 3.x versions
> behind) and all is OK in my little world again.
>
> It’s time to drink heavily now . . . I have had enough of technical 
> cr*p w/ the setup of a new system, reinstalls, etc. I want a horse, 
> tent, and carrier pigeon. I am getting too old to deal w/ all 
> these tech ins and outs!
>
> Is it only Monday?
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.
> c...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 1:35 PM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, 
> a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive
>
> Yes, it is. And I let them know that I sincerely appreciated the 
> understanding and the effort. I have some clients still on 10 and 12, 
> so I need to be able to share files easily w/ them. Just upgrading 
> across the board is not an option.
>
> Now, if I could just figure out how to send them a big batch of my 
> homemade chocolate chip cookies when this is said and done!
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.
> c...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of techcommtools.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 10:53 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, 
> a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive
>
> That’s pretty cool that they’re digging into a FrameMaker 
> 10/FrameMaker 12 issue so deeply!
>
> -Matt
>
> Matt R. Sullivan
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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive!!!!

[Tammy Van Boening]

The finale of all of this:

It was a limitation, ultimately (pun intended), due to SnagIT on Windows 7 
Ultimate. Very long story – but the only .pngs that would not open 
automatically in SnagIT were those imported into FM 12. Outside FM12, no 
problem and no problem w/ any pngs in FM12 opening in Windows Viewer, etc. So, 
I reached out to TechSmith and demonstrated the issue and they agreed that it 
was a limit/problem due to SnagIT and although it worked properly on Windows 7 
Professional and therefore should on Windows 7 Ultimate, my version was no 
longer a supported version. To offset the pain, they gave me the upgrade price 
to the latest version (even tho’ I was like 3.x versions behind) and all is OK 
in my little world again. 

It’s time to drink heavily now . . . I have had enough of technical cr*p w/ the 
setup of a new system, reinstalls, etc. I want a horse, tent, and carrier 
pigeon. I am getting too old to deal w/ all these tech ins and outs!

Is it only Monday?

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 1:35 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a 
shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive

Yes, it is. And I let them know that I sincerely appreciated the understanding 
and the effort. I have some clients still on 10 and 12, so I need to be able to 
share files easily w/ them. Just upgrading across the board is not an option.

Now, if I could just figure out how to send them a big batch of my homemade 
chocolate chip cookies when this is said and done!

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Behalf Of techcommtools.com
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 10:53 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a 
shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive

That’s pretty cool that they’re digging into a FrameMaker 10/FrameMaker 12 
issue so deeply!

-Matt

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> On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Tammy Van Boening 
> <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> HI Stefan,
> 
> All my files are referenced PNGs. Tech Support spent 45 minutes 
> troubleshooting yesterday w/ me and even had me do a brand new never 
> before install of FM12 and the same issue - double-clicking any 
> graphic in FM10 or FM12 yields nothing. However, all other programs on 
> Windows 7 Ultimate work just as expected - absolutely no issues and I 
> can double-click any graphic that is NOT in an FM file and it opens 
> just fine in any program that I select as my default graphics editor.
> But, once the same graphic is imported into an FM doc., 
> double-clicking yields nothing. The ONLY difference between my new 
> system and my other 2 systems that do not have/never had had this 
> issue is that my new system is Windows 7 Ultimate and the others are
> Windows7 Professional. Yes, they are the same underlying base code, 
> but obviously, there is something that is different enough to cause 
> this problem and the tech support guy (didn't catch his name fully) 
> was wonderful and tested thoroughly and agreed that it was something 
> w/ FM. (And yes, a registry check indicated absolutely NO problems w/ 
> the registry either)
> 
> Adobe Tech Support did call me immediately w/in the timeframe that I was 
> quoted and they have assured me that they will be testing this and trying to 
> find a cause and a resolution and they will get back to me  by

Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive!!!!

[Tammy Van Boening]

And you have beachfront property in Arizona to sell, right? LOL!!!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

- snips -

> Now, if I could just figure out how to send them a big batch of my 
> homemade chocolate chip cookies when this is said and done!

I'll, uh, er, hand-deliver those, uh, cookies for you. Just send them to me;
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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive!!!!

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yes, it is. And I let them know that I sincerely appreciated the understanding 
and the effort. I have some clients still on 10 and 12, so I need to be able to 
share files easily w/ them. Just upgrading across the board is not an option.

Now, if I could just figure out how to send them a big batch of my homemade 
chocolate chip cookies when this is said and done!

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That’s pretty cool that they’re digging into a FrameMaker 10/FrameMaker 12 
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> On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Tammy Van Boening 
> <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> HI Stefan,
> 
> All my files are referenced PNGs. Tech Support spent 45 minutes 
> troubleshooting yesterday w/ me and even had me do a brand new never 
> before install of FM12 and the same issue - double-clicking any 
> graphic in FM10 or FM12 yields nothing. However, all other programs on 
> Windows 7 Ultimate work just as expected - absolutely no issues and I 
> can double-click any graphic that is NOT in an FM file and it opens 
> just fine in any program that I select as my default graphics editor. 
> But, once the same graphic is imported into an FM doc., 
> double-clicking yields nothing. The ONLY difference between my new 
> system and my other 2 systems that do not have/never had had this 
> issue is that my new system is Windows 7 Ultimate and the others are 
> Windows7 Professional. Yes, they are the same underlying base code, 
> but obviously, there is something that is different enough to cause 
> this problem and the tech support guy (didn't catch his name fully) 
> was wonderful and tested thoroughly and agreed that it was something 
> w/ FM. (And yes, a registry check indicated absolutely NO problems w/ 
> the registry either)
> 
> Adobe Tech Support did call me immediately w/in the timeframe that I was 
> quoted and they have assured me that they will be testing this and trying to 
> find a cause and a resolution and they will get back to me  by Tuesday, so 
> thank you for that! 
> 
> I will keep you in the loop and let you know.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality? - also, a shout-out to Tech Support for being so responsive!!!!

[Tammy Van Boening]

HI Stefan,

All my files are referenced PNGs. Tech Support spent 45 minutes troubleshooting 
yesterday w/ me and even had me do a brand new never before install of FM12 and 
the same issue - double-clicking any graphic in FM10 or FM12 yields nothing. 
However, all other programs on Windows 7 Ultimate work just as expected - 
absolutely no issues and I can double-click any graphic that is NOT in an FM 
file and it opens just fine in any program that I select as my default graphics 
editor. But, once the same graphic is imported into an FM doc., double-clicking 
yields nothing. The ONLY difference between my new system and my other 2 
systems that do not have/never had had this issue is that my new system is 
Windows 7 Ultimate and the others are Windows7 Professional. Yes, they are the 
same underlying base code, but obviously, there is something that is different 
enough to cause this problem and the tech support guy (didn't catch his name 
fully) was wonderful and tested thoroughly and agreed that it was something w/ 
FM. (And yes, a registry check indicated absolutely NO problems w/ the registry 
either) 

Adobe Tech Support did call me immediately w/in the timeframe that I was quoted 
and they have assured me that they will be testing this and trying to find a 
cause and a resolution and they will get back to me  by Tuesday, so thank you 
for that! 

I will keep you in the loop and let you know.

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 8:18 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

Hi Tammy,

Are your PNGs embedded or referenced?

I have just tested this on my machine on Win 10 with FM 2017. With a referenced 
image, double-clicking the image in FM opens Photoshop. Then I changed in Win 
10 in the settings in "Choose default apps by file type" .png from Photoshop to 
Windows "Photos" app. Double-clicked the image in FM and it opens in ... 
Photos! Changing back to Photoshop: Et voilà, it opens in Photoshop again. I do 
not even need to restart FM for that.

Then I imported the same PNG with "Copy into document" (that is, not by 
reference). Now double-clicking the image does not open any editor anymore. 
Also the "Edit with" in the context menu is deactivated. This makes sense in 
some way, I guess.
 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
 

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe....@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 01:18
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

I have called support and I am awaiting a call back. We shall see. I have not 
taken any Windows updates, etc. All was humming and then bang, but then the 
problem even exists w/ a brand new install of FM 12 on the same system, so the 
culprit is???

Thanks,

TVB

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-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:58 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

I'd call Adobe support. Or maybe just try resetting FrameMaker to its defaults 
by closing the app, deleting maker.ini, and restarting.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
<tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> Yes, I did that. That is why when I double-click on a file outside of frame, 
> for example, a .png, it opens in snagit editor. It is just in this 
> installation of fm that I am having the issue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com@lists.frameuser
> s.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:48 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>
> Have you used the Default Programs utility? On my Windows 7 system 
> it's on the Start menu after Devices and Printers.
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Tammy Van Boeni

Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

I have called support and I am awaiting a call back. We shall see. I have not 
taken any Windows updates, etc. All was humming and then bang, but then the 
problem even exists w/ a brand new install of FM 12 on the same system, so the 
culprit is???

Thanks,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:58 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

I'd call Adobe support. Or maybe just try resetting FrameMaker to its defaults 
by closing the app, deleting maker.ini, and restarting.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
<tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> Yes, I did that. That is why when I double-click on a file outside of frame, 
> for example, a .png, it opens in snagit editor. It is just in this 
> installation of fm that I am having the issue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com@lists.frameuser
> s.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:48 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>
> Have you used the Default Programs utility? On my Windows 7 system 
> it's on the Start menu after Devices and Printers.
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
> <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate on the new system and Windows 7 Professional on the old 
>> system.
>>
>> Geez, would that really make a difference? They are both Win 7, 64-bit, and 
>> all other programs between the two work identically.
>>
>> Tammy Van Boening
>> Owner/Principal
>> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>> 303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers 
>> [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com@lists.frameuse
>> rs.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:33 PM
>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
>> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>>
>> Same version of Windows on both machines?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:16 PM, tammyvb <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I ran crap cleaner in rebooted no luck still in fm10 I also installed FM 12 
>>> just to see if there would be an issue with it and the same thing as FM12. 
>>> An image will not open when I double--click it. I can't imagine what's 
>>> going on in this new system to start causing these problems all of a sudden 
>>> but I'm at my wit's end.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphonePardon the typos!
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: tammyvb <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com>
>>> Date: 4/28/17  4:02 PM  (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>>> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know crap cleaner I trust that tool thanks Matt I'll give it a 
>>> shot
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphonePardon the typos!
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: "techcommtools.com" <m...@techcommtools.com>
>>> Date: 4/28/17  3:55 PM  (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>>> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>>>
>>> I don’t recall if Fm10 had the Edit with… option, so that might not even be 
>>> an option, but if you’re comfortable with using a registry cleaner, it will 
>>> likely clean up the issue. I wouldn’t expect the uninstall/reinstall would 
>>> be necessary.
>>>
>>> Since I have both Photoshop and RoboScreenCapture on my machine, I don’t 
>>> use SnagIt, so I can’t offer much help there.
>>>
>>> I use http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner occasionally when I have reg or temp 
>>> file issues.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> Matt R. Su

Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Yes, I did that. That is why when I double-click on a file outside of frame, 
for example, a .png, it opens in snagit editor. It is just in this installation 
of fm that I am having the issue. 

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:48 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

Have you used the Default Programs utility? On my Windows 7 system
it's on the Start menu after Devices and Printers.

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Tammy Van Boening
<tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> Windows 7 Ultimate on the new system and Windows 7 Professional on the old 
> system.
>
> Geez, would that really make a difference? They are both Win 7, 64-bit, and 
> all other programs between the two work identically.
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> 303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] 
> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:33 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>
> Same version of Windows on both machines?
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:16 PM, tammyvb <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I ran crap cleaner in rebooted no luck still in fm10 I also installed FM 12 
>> just to see if there would be an issue with it and the same thing as FM12. 
>> An image will not open when I double--click it. I can't imagine what's going 
>> on in this new system to start causing these problems all of a sudden but 
>> I'm at my wit's end.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphonePardon the typos!
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: tammyvb <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com>
>> Date: 4/28/17  4:02 PM  (GMT-07:00)
>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>>
>>
>>
>> I know crap cleaner I trust that tool thanks Matt I'll give it a shot
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphonePardon the typos!
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: "techcommtools.com" <m...@techcommtools.com>
>> Date: 4/28/17  3:55 PM  (GMT-07:00)
>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>>
>> I don’t recall if Fm10 had the Edit with… option, so that might not even be 
>> an option, but if you’re comfortable with using a registry cleaner, it will 
>> likely clean up the issue. I wouldn’t expect the uninstall/reinstall would 
>> be necessary.
>>
>> Since I have both Photoshop and RoboScreenCapture on my machine, I don’t use 
>> SnagIt, so I can’t offer much help there.
>>
>> I use http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner occasionally when I have reg or temp 
>> file issues.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> Matt R. Sullivan
>> Tech Comm Tools
>>
>> online courses <http://www.techcommtools.com/upcoming-courses/>  |
>> you can book me <https://mattrsullivan.youcanbook.me/>
>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
>>> <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> When I right-click to use the Edit option, no, I do not have the option to 
>>> Edit w/ SnagIt. Should I uninstall SnagIt, clean the registry w/ Revo and 
>>> try again? Or what program would you suggest?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Windows 7 Ultimate on the new system and Windows 7 Professional on the old 
system.

Geez, would that really make a difference? They are both Win 7, 64-bit, and all 
other programs between the two work identically.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:33 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

Same version of Windows on both machines?

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:16 PM, tammyvb <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>
>
> I ran crap cleaner in rebooted no luck still in fm10 I also installed FM 12 
> just to see if there would be an issue with it and the same thing as FM12. An 
> image will not open when I double--click it. I can't imagine what's going on 
> in this new system to start causing these problems all of a sudden but I'm at 
> my wit's end.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphonePardon the typos!
>
>  Original message 
> From: tammyvb <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com>
> Date: 4/28/17  4:02 PM  (GMT-07:00)
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>
>
>
> I know crap cleaner I trust that tool thanks Matt I'll give it a shot
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphonePardon the typos!
>
>  Original message 
> From: "techcommtools.com" <m...@techcommtools.com>
> Date: 4/28/17  3:55 PM  (GMT-07:00)
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?
>
> I don’t recall if Fm10 had the Edit with… option, so that might not even be 
> an option, but if you’re comfortable with using a registry cleaner, it will 
> likely clean up the issue. I wouldn’t expect the uninstall/reinstall would be 
> necessary.
>
> Since I have both Photoshop and RoboScreenCapture on my machine, I don’t use 
> SnagIt, so I can’t offer much help there.
>
> I use http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner occasionally when I have reg or temp 
> file issues.
>
> -Matt
>
> Matt R. Sullivan
> Tech Comm Tools
>
> online courses <http://www.techcommtools.com/upcoming-courses/>  |  
> you can book me <https://mattrsullivan.youcanbook.me/>
>
>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
>> <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> When I right-click to use the Edit option, no, I do not have the option to 
>> Edit w/ SnagIt. Should I uninstall SnagIt, clean the registry w/ Revo and 
>> try again? Or what program would you suggest?
>>
>> Thank you!
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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi Matt,

When I right-click to use the Edit option, no, I do not have the option to Edit 
w/ SnagIt. Should I uninstall SnagIt, clean the registry w/ Revo and try again? 
Or what program would you suggest?

Thank you!

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of techcommtools.com
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:32 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

My money’s on a registry issue in Windows. Do you have a registry cleaner app?

Tammy, are you able to right-click to use the Edit with… option


-Matt

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> On Apr 28, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Tammy Van Boening 
> <tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> 
> I use SnagIt and SnagIT Editor for my images in Framemaker files. I 
> have set all the extensions needed (.png, etc.) to open by default in SnagIt 
> Editor.
> And I have the preferences for my two installations of SnagIT set 
> identically. In one out of two FM 10 installations, when I 
> double-click on an image in FM (such as a .png), voila - it opens in 
> SnagIT Editor as it always has. On my new system, however, I can 
> double-click until the cows come home and no .png, no .gif - nada, 
> zip, zilch - will open in SnagIT Editor.  I have compared every 
> setting between SnagIT on the two systems and FM and I cannot find a single 
> difference.
> 

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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

And yes, when I click on the same image type outside of FM, the image opens
as expected in SnagIt Editor. I have also rebooted my machine after setting
the associations and still no joy.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
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www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:23 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

And yes, all my images are imported by reference. Nothing is copied and
pasted.

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

 <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> www.spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

 

From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:20 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Suddenly not working FM functionality?

 

I use SnagIt and SnagIT Editor for my images in Framemaker files. I have set
all the extensions needed (.png, etc.) to open by default in SnagIt Editor.
And I have the preferences for my two installations of SnagIT set
identically. In one out of two FM 10 installations, when I double-click on
an image in FM (such as a .png), voila - it opens in SnagIT Editor as it
always has. On my new system, however, I can double-click until the cows
come home and no .png, no .gif - nada, zip, zilch - will open in SnagIT
Editor.  I have compared every setting between SnagIT on the two systems and
FM and I cannot find a single difference. 

 

I am at a loss - I have to be able to double-click an image in FM to open it
in my default graphics program as I have done for the past gazillion years.
Where should I look/what should do (besides scream, run, and go drink
heavily on this Friday afternoon?)

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> 

303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

 

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Re: [Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

And yes, all my images are imported by reference. Nothing is copied and
pasted.

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

 <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> www.spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

 

From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:20 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Suddenly not working FM functionality?

 

I use SnagIt and SnagIT Editor for my images in Framemaker files. I have set
all the extensions needed (.png, etc.) to open by default in SnagIt Editor.
And I have the preferences for my two installations of SnagIT set
identically. In one out of two FM 10 installations, when I double-click on
an image in FM (such as a .png), voila - it opens in SnagIT Editor as it
always has. On my new system, however, I can double-click until the cows
come home and no .png, no .gif - nada, zip, zilch - will open in SnagIT
Editor.  I have compared every setting between SnagIT on the two systems and
FM and I cannot find a single difference. 

 

I am at a loss - I have to be able to double-click an image in FM to open it
in my default graphics program as I have done for the past gazillion years.
Where should I look/what should do (besides scream, run, and go drink
heavily on this Friday afternoon?)

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> 

303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

 

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[Framers] Suddenly not working FM functionality?

[Tammy Van Boening]

I use SnagIt and SnagIT Editor for my images in Framemaker files. I have set
all the extensions needed (.png, etc.) to open by default in SnagIt Editor.
And I have the preferences for my two installations of SnagIT set
identically. In one out of two FM 10 installations, when I double-click on
an image in FM (such as a .png), voila - it opens in SnagIT Editor as it
always has. On my new system, however, I can double-click until the cows
come home and no .png, no .gif - nada, zip, zilch - will open in SnagIT
Editor.  I have compared every setting between SnagIT on the two systems and
FM and I cannot find a single difference. 

 

I am at a loss - I have to be able to double-click an image in FM to open it
in my default graphics program as I have done for the past gazillion years.
Where should I look/what should do (besides scream, run, and go drink
heavily on this Friday afternoon?)

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> 

303-840-1744 (Mountain Time)

 

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Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to menu icons

[Tammy Van Boening]

I will DEFINITELY vote for both, so that link Dave would be awesome. My
aging eyes simply cannot handle this interface for any respectable length of
time.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com
-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 1:33 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to
menu icons

Send me the link, Dave, I'll vote for yours, too!

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Stamm, David <david.st...@gd-ms.com> wrote:

> 2017-03-09-04T20:15Z
>
> I, too, voted in favor of your request.  I also pointed out that your 
> request is analogous to my request to enlarge the typeface in the 
> dialog box for index entries.  Good luck.
>
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms.com@lists.
> frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: 2017-03-09-Thursday 13:14
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling 
> to menu icons
>
> I recently purchased FM 2017 for myself at home, and was most 
> displeased to see that the menu icons had been returned to the 
> "corporate standard" of tiny and faded, so that they are difficult to 
> distinguish. This is causing me some eye strain, and I'm not at all happy
about it.
>
> I've put in an official feature request with Adobe, and I'm hoping at 
> least some of you agree with me and would be willing to vote for the 
> request.
>
> I am told that the complaints of the pre-release participants on this 
> subject were "dismissed and belittled"; perhaps if more users let 
> Adobe know that this is a real issue they'll listen this time. 
> Frankly, I don't understand why they didn't listen to the testers who 
> complained. It seems like poor customer service to me.
>
> Here's a link to the request if you want to vote on it.
>
> https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2449
>
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Re: [Framers] Curly Quote conundrum

[Tammy Van Boening]

That is it on the nose Tori. The curly quotes and the microns were also driving 
my scientists batty using the marketing-dictated corporate font. The majority 
of font did stay w/ the corporate font, but the slight few substitutions were 
not different enough to cause consternation and by doing so, the document was 
much smoother to read.

Thanks!

TVB

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Owner/Principal
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TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com


-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Victoria Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:28 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Curly Quote conundrum

I can't speak for Tammy's work environment, but I have worked on two manuals 
where the client OK'd replacing the quote marks and the microns, but the 
majority of the font needed to stay their corporate font – similar issues to 
her observation on the quotes, and the microns in this particular font looked 
like they are italic even when they aren't, which drove their scientists bats. 

Tori Muir
tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674www.spot-on-creative.com 
<http://www.spot-on-creative.com>

On 2/28/17, 11:02 AM, "Framers on behalf of Robert Lauriston" 
<framers-bounces+tmuir=spot-on-creative@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of 
rob...@lauriston.com> wrote:

You could, but why not just change the font?

And if you're not free to change the font, then why would you be free
to override individual glyphs?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Victoria Muir
<tm...@spot-on-creative.com> wrote:
> Well.. as someone who functions primarily as a designer, this doesn't 
sound so crazy to me – some fonts have godawful quote marks. But couldn't they 
be replaced/have a  character style applied  at the last minute using a Grep 
search or something?
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Re: [Framers] Curly Quote conundrum

[Tammy Van Boening]

Well, that's just flat out useless - OK, guess I will just have to copy and
paste the curly quotes from the body font and different fonts be d***d. . . 

Thanks Robert.

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
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On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:12 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Curly Quote conundrum

Looks like that's how Avenier Next LT is designed. 201c and 201d use the
same glyph.

https://www.linotype.com/1129827/avenir-next-light-product.html

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tammy Van Boening
<tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> FM 10, Win 7, AvenirNext LT Pro font for Table Body and Sans Pro 
> Source for text body. (Required by the client).
>
> For Table Body:
> I can get straight double quotes inserted just fine, but I want curly 
> quotes. With  Smart Quotes turned off, I am trying to insert curly 
> double quotes in the file. For the left curly double quote, I use the 
> command of
> CTRL+q R and the quote is double, but it is still facing the wrong 
> CTRL+direction
> - it looks like a right curly double quote. For the right curly double 
> quote, I use the command of CTRL+q S and that appears just fine.  So, 
> I tried with Smart Quotes turned on just and no go. . . the same result.
>
> FWIW, when using the Sans Pro Source font , with Smart Quotes turned 
> on, I can get proper facing curly quotes no problem.
>
> Why would the font make a difference and any advice about getting 
> curly quotes to work with the required Table Font would be sincerely
appreciated.
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