Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:06:43 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:

 But taking my example for a moment, let's say I use dnsmasq.  I need the
 original version of dnsmasq.conf if the new package installed says 
 there's a difference that needs human attention in order to truly 
 determine if human attention is needed.

The original file is installed as with a ._cfgNNN prefix. The patched
dispatch-conf, available from http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68618
has a pretend option. you could call this from a script to see which files
are waiting to be updated. Yes, there would be some work involved in
setting things up, but it would pay dividends in the long run...
especially if you make the system obtuse enough to guarantee your job
security :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATAPI burning doesn't work

2005-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:21:28 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:

 To me, this is really the crux of the issue.  Fortunately, I've never
 had many problems using cdrecord, but Jorg Schilling and the kernel
 developers have very ugly disputes about how the kernel should treat CD
 burners and how cdrecord should get access to them.

I get the impression that Schilling doesn't like Linux and thinks the
kernel should be changed to suit his program.

 I suspect at some
 point someone will fork cdrecord to make a linux specific version, but
 that person is likely to get as many flames as thanks.

That has happened as far as DVD writing is concerned, with growisofs. If
only it handled CDs too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why my screen on book computer is too small?

2005-04-14 Thread :-






Richard Fish wrote:

  :- wrote:

  
  
HI;
I use the HP omin book to install the gentoo linux;
when I use the console in the system, the console's only the 600*480;
I want the change the console to the whool screen(1024*768);
of course ,I can set params in the gurb' configure file
(/boot/gurb.conf),set "vga 1024*768",
when I restart the computer,the consloe can reach the whole screen;But
in this mode ,
I can not use "startx",to use the X Server;
I install the buffer frame gentoo-kernel ;

any answer will be overcome!
thanks!
 


  
  
What graphics chip? (ATI, Intel, ?) (see 'lspci')

What is the error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

-Richard


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I use the Intel-810 vedio card,
no independence graphics chip,!
in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, It say the XServer has runed ;
But ,I only run the console in the buffer frame ,no the XSever running;,
maybe ,If run the console in the bufferframe ,must run the XServer in
another local;?



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Re: [gentoo-user] No MySQL 4.1 Support ?

2005-04-14 Thread Ralph Slooten
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  SLES8 is still on 3.23, not tried SLES9 yet though...

SLES9 = mysql-4.0.18-32.13  ... just checked on one of our servers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 09:29 +0200, Chris Prior wrote:
 On 2005.04.14 13:47:42 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  Has any seen/tried to implement some sort of mail-responder to grab
  webpages via email?? eg? set up a procmail recipe that waits on a
  predefined set of message body 
 
 Take a look at http://www4mail.org/

I'm not looking for a service which has it. I'm looking for some way to
implement it.

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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:07:29AM -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote

 IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there really is something showstopping
 holding you to netscrape.
 *shudder* have not used netscrape for many moons, didn't even know you
 could still get it?
 
 Still strong: :: Win: currently 7.2  Lin: currently 7.1
 
 ... *shudder* ... :: 7.0 was *massively* better than any previous, 7.1 
 modestly-moderately better than 7.0  (In Win; haven't had Lin-Video up 
 to my standards until just now with Gentoo.)
 
 I *need* all past email to remain in use, without any chance of loss or 
 error, and I need all new email to go to the same place, and I bloody 
 well intend, if possible, to use *one* tool to access all of it.  Ditto 
 bookmarks, eddresses, etc.. 
 
 If Netscape/Linux won't share thusly with Netscape/Win, then I will be 
 looking for something else in Linux, or both. Current thought has Opera 
 for both as browser, and I have no email candidate yet -- *MUST* work 
 same in both o/ss!  Oh, and I have at least two mailboxes from two 
 different providers, and Netscape handles both in the same screen.
 
 If Netscape will work  share, there would have to be a very good reason 
 to change.  That said, I'm certainly willing to learn newer browse/mail 
 tools for real advantage (but not for 'cooless' or 'religious' 
 nonsense), but I absolutely *need* Win  Lin to play nice by using one 
 file-set for both's everything depending on which o/s I've booted into 
 at any particular moment.
 
 Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
 **and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?


 Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!

  Well, since you asked...
  - Netscape up to and including version 4.x was proprietary software
with abysmal spaghetti code.

  - Netscape 6 and onwards *IS* Mozilla.  Specifically, it's an
AOL-branded Mozilla 1.x distro, complete with AOL's AIM and other
AOL garbage, which you may not want.  The only problem I expect is
that you may not be able to have both installed simultaneously due
to the fact that they have the vast majority of their files the same.

  You should be able to copy stuff back and forth.  They're the same
programs.  I don't see any problems other than copying pure text files
between linux and Windows; LF versus CRLF.

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[gentoo-user] Password based printing

2005-04-14 Thread Omar
Hi list,
I need to build a printserver inside my gentoo box.
This printserver will serve about 50
printers for about 500 users.  I need to restrict
access to the colored printers with authenticated
users with their usename and password (posibly from
the ldap server which is already running on a separate
machine).
Any idea guys?  Im looking at the cups-pam-ldap
solution, that is cups will use pam authentication and
pam will use ldap modules.  My problem is how to
convince cups to use pam authentication for some
printers. In the cups documentation, there is no
information regarding implementation of pam.
When I build cups from source ./configure --help
shows that pam is enabled by default.
Pam-ldap is already working.
TIA
omar
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[gentoo-user] Evolution 2.0.{3,4} crashes with aspell 0.60.3

2005-04-14 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
I had to install aspell-0.60.3 (~x86) to install Tomboy-0.3.1 (~x86),
and evolution (2.0.3) stopped working: it crashed whenever I wanted to
to write a new mail. Upgrading to 2.0.4 didn't change anything, but
downgrading aspell to 0.50.5 made evolution work again.

Does anyone knows what's happening? And how I could have spell-checcking
back in Tomboy without making evolution crash ?

 Fred

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[gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Antonio Coralles
Is there a pendant to [ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml ]

Code Listing 10.7: Enable reverse path filtering

# for i in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*; do
/bin/echo 1  $i/rp_filter
done

in sysctl.conf ?

antonio

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[gentoo-user] screen is blinking with nvidia

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello all,
I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
Thank you for any help.
2.6.11-gentoo-r3
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[gentoo-user] UTF8, BiDi, urxvt, and irssi, oh my!

2005-04-14 Thread Matan Peled
So I'm trying to get irssi to play along with BiDi Hebrew. I got hebrew working
by setting an UTF8 locale and moving to urxvt - but now irssi doesn't have BiDi
support :?

There is this picture:
http://www.penguin.org.il/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=screenshotsid=irssi_bidi_fb

And this website:
http://xelcome.sourceforge.net/modules.php?op=modloadname=Downloadsfile=indexreq=viewdownloaddetailslid=12ttitle=hebrew.pl

Which inform me that I'm not the first to try that - however, I haven't been
actually been able to lay my hands on any code that allows me to do that, after
many nights searching Google.

BTW, coredumb on the penguin.org.il picture seems to have been a Gentoo Dev at
some point ... ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
Nick Rout wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:02:40 -0400
Lucien D. wrote:

  

Little update on what I said about the VIA mini-itx boards. Been
looking at them a little.  Thie via EPIA SP, one of their newest
boards has a graphic processor with integrated MPEG-2 decoder and
MPEG-4 accelerator, not 100% sure what that is. 
http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=261

It looks pretty sweet, and apparently they've released some of their
drivers for 2.6 as open source. 
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050412PR204.html



That is good news, but what is really needed is an open source driver for
the mpeg-2 decoder, and (now) the mpeg-4 accelerator - as you say,
whatever that is!

  

one drawback is only a single pci slot, so u couldn't have more than
one tuner. but if u wanted to divide between a backend and frontend
this would make a great frontend.



you can put in a riser and get two pci slots, which are then parallel to the 
mainboard and your case can still be slimline. (at least you can on
the m series boards, i assume this one will be the same in that respect.

  

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from what i heard (an i have been a Mini-Itx Follower for over 5 years
now) is that Via had just a few days ago released all their drivers for
the Mini-ITX chipsets under open source licenses (including the graphics
acceleration) to boost linux support for its boards in the embedded/PVR
market.

This means that the Mini-ITX's should soon have very good (if not
excellent) open source support, but currently we have to wait for all
these opensource drivers to be implemented by the community (they were
released only a few days ago, not enough 
time to gather volunteers to develop/cleanup the code, merge with linux
kernel etc...)

Here is the news item regarding the drivers:
 
http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=508mode=order=0thold=0


Also note that you can get PCI riser cards which will give you two PCI
slots with the mini-itx (there exist ones which even give three slots,
but these are rare (and quite pricy) )

And there is in the works an EPIA-specific linux distro (with all the
drivers/kernel patches already in there)  which is in beta (and i think
its based on gentoo, not sure, better check). Its known as /epiOS. /If
you have to have support for the hardware now (before the VIA drivers
become stable and merged into the general kernel tree) i would suggest
to try that distro.


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[gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.

Hi all,

A few days ago when doing an 'emerge -puD world' i got the message to
upgrade to the 2005.0 profile. I changed the link to make.profile to fit
the 2005.0 profile but since then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with
the following error:

---
Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6 have
been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
- sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or
section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!(dependency required by net-firewall/ipsec-tools-0.5-r1
[ebuild])


!!! Problem with ebuild net-firewall/ipsec-tools-0.5-r1
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.
---

I've been playing around with the package.keywords file, but that
doesn't seem to have the solution :( Maybe unmerging ipsec-tools would
help, but i need racoon for the connection to the box :(

Does someone know how to fix this?

Thanx in advance,
-Arjen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 4/13/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On Apr 12, 2005 10:01 AM, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Here's a good starting reference that might help:
   http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html
  
   Dave
 
  Thanks Dave. Lots and lots of info in that article. MythTV holds up
  pretty well from a quick reading.
 
 Don't discount freevo yet. Freevo is the little cousin of mythtv, no
 doubt that it's still lags behind myth but again, depends on how you
 want to use the box. I find Freevo to be suitable for my needs.
 
 I may go take a look at mythtv later when I get the chance/time.
 

Sure. Absolutely. I'm not discounting anything at the moment.

1) Probable first step - Get a Hauppauge (PVR-250 probably) stick it
in a desktop machine and see what happens with all this software. for
instance I installed MythTV but it wouldn't run as it needed mysql
running. I know nothing of mysql so I need to work through some stuff
like that.

2) In parallel look at whether to do a dedicated recorder (vs. using
an existing machine) and look at how to do remote playback. Remote
playback could be modified XBoxs (or maybe Playstations or something
else) or it could be some sort of cute little box built around Epia or
something else.

These are just my thoughts for now. As I continue to read they change.

Cheers,
Mark

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RE: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Little update on what I said about the VIA mini-itx boards. Been
 looking at them a little.  Thie via EPIA SP, one of their newest
 boards has a graphic processor with integrated MPEG-2 decoder and
 MPEG-4 accelerator, not 100% sure what that is.
 http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=261
 
 It looks pretty sweet, and apparently they've released some of their
 drivers for 2.6 as open source.
 http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050412PR204.html
 
 one drawback is only a single pci slot, so u couldn't have more than
 one tuner. but if u wanted to divide between a backend and frontend
 this would make a great frontend.

And since we're still throwing links around, here's one from tech report
that reviews some tuner cards:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/tuner-comparo/index.x?pg=1

Dave


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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 4/13/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 18:02 -0400, Lucien D. wrote:
  Little update on what I said about the VIA mini-itx boards. Been
  looking at them a little.  Thie via EPIA SP, one of their newest
  boards has a graphic processor with integrated MPEG-2 decoder and
  MPEG-4 accelerator, not 100% sure what that is.
  http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=261
 
 
 Just bear in mind that the EPIA M10K at 1Ghz CPu does not have enough
 grunt to do the PVR thingy. It does however play DVD and Divx fine with
 ~ 20% for DVD and ~60-80% for Divx (CPU usage)
 
 So getting a haugepage is definately a need if you want to offload the
 processing to do encoding
 

On a related issue I'm concerned about noise. I was following links
for the Epia SP main board and ran into this one:

http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=58

At the bottom of the page I find: However, the cpu fan has not
changed and is still the 25dba fan that has been used for a very long
time. This is rather dissappointing considering the nearly silent Mini
Mac recently announced - considering the low power CPU it seems a
shame that the CPU cooling solution isn't drastically quieter.
However, compared to some computers, which are normally 35dba or
higher, the EPIA may seem quite quiet.

Seems to me if one of these is going to sit in my Home Theater stack I
want it silent, or as close to it as possible.

It does raise the idea of using a Mac Mini running Gentoo to do some
of this. Seems to me that the cost of the Mini-ITX mainboard, a case,
memory, and some sort of hard drive is likely to approach $500, isn't
it? Maybe I'm being pessimistic.

I have a sound meter. Probably time to drag it out!

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
John J. Foster wrote:
Good afternoon,
I feel that it is time to move to Gentoo. After a few years of RH,
Fedora and Suse, I want better and more precise control over my system.
My problem, maybe, is that I only have a 28.8 modem connection to the
net. But, I want to start installation from stage1 in order to be able
to build _everything_ from scratch. At work I have access to a high
speed connection and could easily download sources from there.
My browsing through the Gentoo 2005.0 Handbook _seems_ to say this is
not possible. Is that true? If so, I would gladly buy the CD's (and help
to support Gentoo) if that would work.
My last option, which I don't really want to do, is to bring my machine
to work and do all from there. But I can't drink beer at the same
time:-)
All help and guidance appreciated,
Thanks,
John
 

We had a chat about that recently: 
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=enlr=safe=offthreadm=3OWtT-3nh-13%40gated-at.bofh.itrnum=1prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522system%2Bwith%2Bno%2Bnetwork%2Bneeds%2Bupdates%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26selm%3D3OWtT-3nh-13%2540gated-at.bofh.it%26rnum%3D1

Building from stage1 is an interesting exercise although I wonder if the 
difference between a tailored stage1 install and a stage3 install would 
be very drastic (speed-wise, size-wise or user experience-wise). I 
always did it from stage1 so I don't have any experience of other installs.

Eugene.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Update problems

2005-04-14 Thread Buwalda, A.
Whoa, this suprises even myself, am I messing things up here (its not my
only box)? Anyway, this is the path:

ls -al /etc/make.profile
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 52 Apr  8 22:30 /etc/make.profile -
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/2.4

I expected it to be 2.6? Now I'm even more confused :(

I thought I changed that to be 2.6.

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Universitair Medisch Centrum Utrecht
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Tel: 030 - 2509074
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 -Original Message-
 From: Edward Catmur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: donderdag 14 april 2005 15:19
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update problems
 
  I changed the link to make.profile to fit the 2005.0 
 profile but since 
  then I can't seem to update. I'm stuck with the following error:
  
  ---
  Calculating world dependencies |
  !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6 
  have been masked.
  !!! One of the following masked packages is required to 
 complete your
  request:
  - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 (masked by: profile)
  - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11 (masked by: profile, -* keyword)
  - sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4 (masked by: profile)
 
 Which profile are you using (full path)?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote:

 Is there a pendant

A pendant?


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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Byron Pezan
Nick Rout wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:58:39 -0400
Byron Pezan wrote:



  

FYI here is an lspci output from a Dell Centrino machine.  The Broadcom
entry at the bottom is the builtin wireless card, which incidentally
only works with NDISWrapper.



AFAIK the Centrino branding requires Intel/PRO wireless stuff, not
broadcom. How does your machine get a centrino sticker? or is broadcom a 
rebadged intel wireless set? or has the standard been relaxed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino

http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/

[snip]
  

Controller (rev 20)
:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g
Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)

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I don't know that I have a good answer to that, a quick Google search
did not reveal much.  I believe that in the early days of Centrino Intel
was forced to partner with other WIFI chip makers to meet their release
date.  Which may have set the standard lower than was expected from the
very beginning.  It may also be as simple as the chassis being
pre-stickered Centrino and assembled with a Broadcom chip due to a back
order on the Intel chips.

Byron
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[gentoo-user] reinstall troubles

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Smith
im having to do a reinstall on my laptop and im using the new 2005.0
version, however when it comes to the chroot part it says i dont have
the command env-update, this is the first time i have ran into this
and i have followed the handbook exactly.  it is something im doing
wrong or is just something messed up?

nick

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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Travis Rousseau
On 4/12/05, Charles Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4/12/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0400
  Charles Pittman wrote:
  
Do all Pentium M processors have integrated wireless? I guess that
 would
   explain the wireless on/off button on the left-had side of my laptop
 (which 
   I can't use, because no program recognizes any of those hotkeys).
  
  No pentium m processors have integrated wireless. the pentium m is a
  cpu.
  
  However centrino machines have built in wireless, its part of the 
  centrino spec. centrino also uses pentium m. but just because your
  machine has a pentium-m cpu, doesn't make it centrino.
  
  lspci should tell you if you have a wireless chipset in your machine. If
 it has a centrino sticker, then it should have wireless.
  
  Hope that clears up the confusion.
  
  --
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Ha I was told it would cost extra to get a computer without windows.
(somethin like $80)

I think windows devalues the computers

Travis R.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Yuo know, I just *LOVE* the idea of Xboxs running Linux -- remember who 
they came from?   Payback's a [deleted].  *very* evil grin!
rgh. still grinning!

Mark Knecht wrote:
snip
 

2) In parallel look at whether to do a dedicated recorder (vs. using
an existing machine) and look at how to do remote playback. Remote
playback could be modified XBoxs (or maybe Playstations or something
else) or it could be some sort of cute little box built around Epia or
something else.
These are just my thoughts for now. As I continue to read they change.
Cheers,
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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Travis Rousseau wrote:
snip
Ha I was told it would cost extra to get a computer without windows.
(somethin like $80)
Yes, *WHY* does it cost more without WindoZZZe?  (Answer: Because 
MonopolSoft threatens vendors into doing this.) 
I suggest NOT buying from vendors that do this. 
If Linux ever reeally becomes *important* in the $$market, they'll pay 
for that behavior.
Hopefully, that will feed back to MS  hurt them even more.

I think windows devalues the computers
Travis R.
(I collect cool sigs etc...)
Mordjah on LQO (LinuxQuestions.org):
.Computers are like Air Conditioners.. they stop working when you 
open windows.

Buy4now!,
rgh.

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[gentoo-user] Re: gaim doesn't compile - ld error finding SM library

2005-04-14 Thread Francis Barton
Daniel - thanks for your tip. I was busy finding out the same thing at
the same time you posted. I got there in the end.

Francisco - thank you for your suggestion, this indeed proved to be the
problem. I just created a symlink in /usr/lib :

libSM.so - libSM.so.6.0

and everything was happy again.

Francis

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Re: (OT) [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Neil Bothwick wrote:
snip[sig:]  
Neil Bothwick
Top Oxymorons Number 9: Political science

Wrong!! :: Political Science is the study of how/why things happens *in* politics...  
You know, like studying how an AIDS virus works? 
**Very** evil grin!!

I *LIKE* you rolling-sig -- are these from 'noseguy,' by any chance?
Where-the-futz do you get all these anyway?
I love 'em!...
Thanks! (and keep 'em coming!),
robert g hays.

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[gentoo-user] how to subscribe but get no mail

2005-04-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry to post this here but I've already contacted the listserver with
the info address and faq address.  Neither of those sources have any
info about this.

I want to subscribe here but get no messages delivered.  The
subscription would be so as to enable posting thru news.gmane.org's
mail to news gateway.

Is there some way to set such a parameter?

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to subscribe but get no mail

2005-04-14 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 14 April 2005 18:09, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Sorry to post this here but I've already contacted the listserver with
 the info address and faq address.  Neither of those sources have any
 info about this.

 I want to subscribe here but get no messages delivered.  The
 subscription would be so as to enable posting thru news.gmane.org's
 mail to news gateway.

 Is there some way to set such a parameter?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Antonio Coralles
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

 On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote:

 Is there a pendant

 A pendant?


You might also say equivalent or counterpart ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread James Hiscock
 You might also say equivalent or counterpart ...

...hmmm... Dictionary.com says something else entirely:

snip
pen·dant1 also pen·dent( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pndnt)
n. 
1. Something suspended from something else, especially an ornament or
piece of jewelry attached to a necklace or bracelet.
2. A hanging lamp or chandelier. 
3. A sculptured ornament suspended from a vaulted Gothic roof or ceiling. 
snip

...but answering your question anyway:

net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1

...should do what you're asking for (and it's commented out in the
default sysctl.conf...)

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Re: (OT) [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:02 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
*LIKE* you rolling-sig -- are these from 'noseguy,' by any chance?
Where-the-futz do you get all these anyway?
   

No one source. I have collected them over the last twelve years. Some are
very out of date now, I really ought to clean the list out.
Not that I've seen yet... ;)
rgh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo security guide question

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
James Hiscock wrote:
You might also say equivalent or counterpart ...
   

...hmmm... Dictionary.com says something else entirely:
snip
pen·dant1 also pen·dent( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pndnt)
n. 
1. Something suspended from something else, especially an ornament or
piece of jewelry attached to a necklace or bracelet.
2. A hanging lamp or chandelier. 
3. A sculptured ornament suspended from a vaulted Gothic roof or ceiling. 
snip

'Scuse me, this must be the English class -- I thought I was in the 
Computer Science / Political Science Building...  Sorry.  walks away

Enough already please, everybody?
rgh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly complex Hard Drive Qeustion

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Tom Moyer wrote:
I may just not be seeing an easy way to do this, so I figured I would
ask if any one had any ideas.
I currently have 3 hard drives in my computer:
hda - Windows XP - 40 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdc - nothing (I think it might be dead) - 30 Gig
I got Windows running in qemu and no longer have a use for my Windows
installation on hda and would like to be able to make the setup like
the following:
hda - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 40 Gig (holding /home)
hdc - Gentoo - 30 Gig (holding qemu .img file for Windows)
what would be the easiest way to do this without killing gentoo?
I know I would have to edit /etc/fstab, but I'm not sure how to go
about changing my Grub setup to handle the new drive setup.
Thanks,
Tom
More info might get better answers than mine...
Where is grub installed?
Is there something else on ide1 with the possibly dead 30G?
The 30G *is* on ide1, end/master connection, right?
Why doo you thing the 30G is dead.
What kind of Internet connection do you have?
Trying without those, and assuming a certain amount of knowledge on your 
part from where you're at right now...

Go into linux, start grub (the program), make an install floppydisk, 
shut computer off, swap hda  hdb, insert grub boot floppy, turn 
computer on  go to bios setup and insure that floppy is set to boot 
before hda, and install grub to MBR (or /boot) of new 120G hda.

If want /boot, be sure to do fdisk or (my favorite for this) cfdisk  
write down where your /boot ( or / ) is before above.

Of course, read  maybe even print (horror-of-horrors...) the man-grub 
or grub docos or whatever before starting above.

It might even, after reading grub data, to simply install grub to 
mbr/boot of hdb from current setup. (?)

best,
rgh.
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[gentoo-user] deltup cycling

2005-04-14 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi,

Sometimes I see such cycling:

emerge -fDu xyz

- get delta
- pack new dist file
- new dist file has wrong md5 (size?)
- go to get delta for the same file

Such cycling can eat musch more time/bytestream rather whole
file downloading.

What are the reasons of bad new archive?
How to avoid the cycling?

Andrew
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Trey Gruel
On 4/14/05, Robert G. Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, is:
 kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r4
 the same as:
  kernel-2.6.11.4
 plus/minus the Gentoo-specific patches?

possibly not.  the gentoo-sources package has its own revision numbers
(the -r* bit).  that's not saying that the changes in the
vanilla-sources (kernel.org with no extra patches) aren't included,
but there's no real association between vanilla 2.6.11.4 and gentoo
2.6.11-r4 aside from the fact that they're both based on the
kernel.org 2.6.11 release.  looking at the patches included in
gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r6 (latest stable gentoo-sources), it includes
the patches for 2.6.11.6, but there the numbers aren't guaranteed to
match up like that.

disclaimer:  i'm not one of the maintainers for gentoo-sources.  they
could have made a decision to hold revisions of gentoo-sources for the
new stable patches that greg kh maintains in order to keep the
revision numbers matching.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly complex Hard Drive Qeustion

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Tom Moyer wrote:

I may just not be seeing an easy way to do this, so I figured I would
ask if any one had any ideas.

I currently have 3 hard drives in my computer:
hda - Windows XP - 40 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdc - nothing (I think it might be dead) - 30 Gig

I got Windows running in qemu and no longer have a use for my Windows
installation on hda and would like to be able to make the setup like
the following:
hda - Gentoo - 120 Gig
hdb - Gentoo - 40 Gig (holding /home)
hdc - Gentoo - 30 Gig (holding qemu .img file for Windows)

what would be the easiest way to do this without killing gentoo?
  


Do you have a /boot partition, and if so, is it on (current) hda or hdb?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with libhistory.so.4 after update -- okay again

2005-04-14 Thread Marten Karl
Hello.

   actual packages the starting message of apache says, that libphp5.so has
   a problem to load libhistory.so.4.
  
  I had this problem a while back. re-emerge mod_php.
 
 I tried this:
  emerge mod_php
 This emerged mdo_php and two other packages. But mod_php runs into an error 
 due to declaration problems like:
  /usr/include/packer.h:28: error: syntax error before uint32_t
 and so on.

I have the combination up again. I have done a reemerge of cracklib, which 
owns packer.h. This does not help. After some investigations I switch the 
mof_php related line in the portage.mask files. Then I was able to compile 
the system and after compilation to start apache (and php). :-)

BUT: I do not know whether it was a good idea to switch that line in 
portage.mask. If you try the same, be aware of this.

With best regards
Marten
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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 13:30 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:
   
 
 from what i heard (an i have been a Mini-Itx Follower for over 5 years
 now) is that Via had just a few days ago released all their drivers for
 the Mini-ITX chipsets under open source licenses (including the graphics
 acceleration) to boost linux support for its boards in the embedded/PVR
 market.
 
 This means that the Mini-ITX's should soon have very good (if not
 excellent) open source support, but currently we have to wait for all
 these opensource drivers to be implemented by the community (they were
 released only a few days ago, not enough 
 time to gather volunteers to develop/cleanup the code, merge with linux
 kernel etc...)

AFAIK this is not completely correct, as the mpeg-2 decoder is still a
binary module with no available source code. This may apply to other
parts of the hardware too.

From my point of view with a 1G-1.2G processor, the hardware mpeg-2
decoding is a key component, leave it out of the open bundle and its
very annoying.

 
 Here is the news item regarding the drivers:
  
 http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=508mode=order=0thold=0
 
 
 Also note that you can get PCI riser cards which will give you two PCI
 slots with the mini-itx (there exist ones which even give three slots,
 but these are rare (and quite pricy) )
 
 And there is in the works an EPIA-specific linux distro (with all the
 drivers/kernel patches already in there)  which is in beta (and i think
 its based on gentoo, not sure, better check). Its known as /epiOS. /If
 you have to have support for the hardware now (before the VIA drivers
 become stable and merged into the general kernel tree) i would suggest
 to try that distro.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip (udev?) question

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Fish
Mark Knecht wrote:

Hi,
   This may be a dvdrip item but I thought I'd try here first as I'm
not that sure about udev. my laptop is running ck-sources. I have a
  


Strange...I've ripped DVDs using udev, so I doubt it is a udev issue. 
Unfortunately, I am 8,000 miles from home right now, with no DVDs to
experiment with.  I think I was using dvdbackup though.

Can you mount the DVD (this works just like mounting a CD usually, but
maybe requires UDF support??).

If so, can you play it with mplayer using -dvd-device
/mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS (or something like that...play with the path a
little).  For xine, it is something like xine  dvd://mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS/

If that all works, I can't think of any reason why dvdrip would have
trouble.

-Richard


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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
 I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there
 any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD
 and install everything via serial console?
 
 thanks,
 ---eric
 
 

people has used the ps2 mouse attach too ;) some crazy boy that wanted
to attach 3 monitors and keyboard to one pc.
No idea on how to change default input in a boot cd.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about kernel-equivalence

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
ok, now that i've rebooted windoze again and email is -maybe- working 
again, i'll finish that email.  doe anybody know where i might find the 
kernel-derivations and maybe patches?

thanks,
rgh.
Robert G. Hays wrote:
Trey Thank You.
That didn't make things easier, but at least I  know so I don't step 
off a cliff (and i ain't no cartoon-character neither) by making a bad 
assumption about the kernel.  There are one or two obvious things I 
can do, although they do take serious time.  Sigh.  I gotta think 
about this some more

I got a slow-panic on both of the (Linux/Win4Lin(/tarantula:1)) 
servers that I maintain, so I gotta do some of that [admin] stuff! 
now...

Thanks again!
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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 during installation

2005-04-14 Thread Kiawud
On 4/14/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using lvm2 2.0.33-r1, dynamically linked, but all of the dependent
 libraries are installed in /lib, not /usr/lib.
 
 carcharias linux # ldd /sbin/lvm
 linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
 libdevmapper.so.1.00 = /lib/libdevmapper.so.1.00 (0xb7fc3000)
 libreadline.so.4 = /lib/libreadline.so.4 (0xb7f9e000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f9a000)
 libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f5b000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e2b000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fea000)
 
 I don't use a separate /usr partition, so there is no reason for Gentoo
 to have prefered /lib to /usr/lib for these libraries.  So I am pretty
 sure this is the normal location for them.
 

Thanks ... I'll emerge 'lvm2' and check to see where all it's libraries are.  

-Hani

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 install

2005-04-14 Thread John J. Foster
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:59:49PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
 Good afternoon,
 
 I feel that it is time to move to Gentoo. After a few years of RH,
 Fedora and Suse, I want better and more precise control over my system.
 My problem, maybe, is that I only have a 28.8 modem connection to the
 net. But, I want to start installation from stage1 in order to be able
 to build _everything_ from scratch. At work I have access to a high
 speed connection and could easily download sources from there.
 
 My browsing through the Gentoo 2005.0 Handbook _seems_ to say this is
 not possible. Is that true? If so, I would gladly buy the CD's (and help
 to support Gentoo) if that would work.
 
 My last option, which I don't really want to do, is to bring my machine
 to work and do all from there. But I can't drink beer at the same
 time:-)
 
 All help and guidance appreciated,
 
 Thanks,
 John
Thanks to all who offered suggestions and advice. I'm in the process of
repartitioning and gathering enough documentation to get started this
weekend.

Once again, thanks. I'm sure I'll be back seeking guidance.

John

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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
If the computer has a USB port, maybe you can find  enable 'legacy' 
(keyboard  mouse) on USB; obviousy this needs a usb-capable keyboard 
begged, borrowed, or bought if you don't already have one

Just a thought.
rgh.
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
 

I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there
any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD
and install everything via serial console?
thanks,
---eric
people has used the ps2 mouse attach too ;) some crazy boy that wanted
to attach 3 monitors and keyboard to one pc.
No idea on how to change default input in a boot cd.
 

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[gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello all,
I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
I have this message when I run this command:
mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
/dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
ls -l /dev/loop*
I have this in /dev:brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop0
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 1 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop1
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 2 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop2
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 3 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop3
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 4 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop4
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 5 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop5
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 6 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop6
brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 7 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop7
Thank you for your help.
Bayrouni
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[gentoo-user] Re: mount

2005-04-14 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Thursday 14 April 2005 22:12, Al Bayrouni wrote:
 Hello all,

 I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
 I have this message when I run this command:


 mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,

 /dev/loop0: no such file or directorie

mount -o loop /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso /mnt/iso

Ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Magnus Varmfors
Hi!

Try not using the /dev/loop0. If I remember correctly, the default for
loop is to look up a free loop-device.

So, try...

mount -t iso9660 /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso /mnt/iso -o loop

From the man-page:
If  no  explicit loop device is mentioned (but just an option `-o loop'
is given), then mount will try to find some unused loop device and  use
that.

Regards,

/Magnus

On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
 I have this message when I run this command:
 
 mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
 
 /dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
 
 ls -l /dev/loop*
 I have this in /dev:brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 0 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop0
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 1 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop1
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 2 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop2
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 3 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop3
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 4 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop4
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 5 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop5
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 6 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop6
 brw-rw  1 root disk 7, 7 mar 10 18:47 /dev/loop7
 
 Thank you for your help.
 Bayrouni
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Re: [gentoo-user] mount

2005-04-14 Thread Al Bayrouni
Richard Fish wrote:
Al Bayrouni wrote:
 

Hello all,
I want to mount an iso file ont /mnt/iso directorie.
I have this message when I run this command:
mount /mnt/packages-x86-2005.0.iso  /mnt/iso -o loop=/dev/loop0,
/dev/loop0: no such file or directorie
   

Do you have the 'loop' block device module loaded or compiled into your
kernel?
-Richard
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
 

No.
I just added this in /usr/src/linux:
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
Is this module that is needed to mount loop devices?
Thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] screen is blinking with nvidia

2005-04-14 Thread Tim Beck
Just curious...is it a very very faint blinking, or is it a more
dramatic blackening effect?

I noticed the same thing with my workstation (which also has an nvidia
card) and just thought I was nuts.  But it doesn't seem to do it in
windows, so...

On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
 But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
 
 Thank you for any help.
 
 2.6.11-gentoo-r3
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:50:30 -0400 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there 
| any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD
| and install everything via serial console?

What arch? It's supported on sparc, mips, hppa and arm at least and
should work automatically.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly Complex Hard Drive Question

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
Tom Moyer wrote:
I would like to swap hda and hdb.
I don't want to swap any data across the drives I just want to have
Gentoo be the only OS installed.
Linux, including Gentoo, can run from any drive in the system.
If Gentoo is not already your default boot from Grub, you can easily 
make it so; ask this if needed.

If you want to COMPLETELY remove XP from the box, that is easy too, 
erase its partition and create another one (or more) there  to use as 
you like.  If, ask.

If you don't want to swap any data from drive-x to drive-y, then you 
will not be able to use new partitions as /, /usr, /var, etc, since 
these are all already defined, so the newly-empty space would be, for 
instsance, /work or .music or whatever.

I am not sure I understand the first two lines above, but if I 
understand #3 correctly, you __do__ want to *completely* erase XP, right?

rgh.

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[gentoo-user] Autoloading scsi scanner kernel modules

2005-04-14 Thread Toby Cubitt
I have an old HP scanner that works fine with one of the drivers included in
the kernel. I compiled the driver as a module since I don't use the scanner
all that often. However, this means the scanner doesn't work unless it's
switched on before booting.

Up till now, I've just su-ed to root, and removed and reinserted the appropriate
module using modprobe. (I'm not sure if I could have just echoed the right
thing to /proc/scsi/scsi, but modprobe certainly does the job).

This is an ugly hack though, since anyone who wants to use the scanner either
has to have the root password or has to reboot. So I tried getting it to
insert the modules and scsi device as needed, by adding the following lines to
/etc/modules.conf:

pre-install sg modprobe sym53c416
alias char-major-21 sg
post-install sg echo scsi add-single-device 0 0 2 0  /proc/scsi/scsi

This didn't achieve much until I added a /dev/scanner symlink to the
appropriate device under /dev/scsi/ (I'm still using devfs). With the symlink
in place, it almost works. If I manually unload the scanner modules (actually,
unloading the sg module is sufficient), then switch on the scanner and try
scanning from a normal user account, the modules are inserted automatically
and everything works.

Unfortunately, this only works if I first unload the modules. For some
inexplicable reason, the scanner driver and the sg modules are loaded at boot,
even though they're *not* listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/. And I guess with
the modules already loaded, the sg module doesn't get loaded again when
/dev/scanner is accessed, so the pre-install and post-install commands never
get executed.

Am I making a mess here, is there a better way to do what I want, or am I
missing something simple? The SANE web site got me this far, but I can't find
anything on the web, forums or lists to get me the last step. (For starters,
I'd like to know why the scanner modules are loaded at boot. Is there any way
to find out what's causing them to be loaded?)

Thanks for any help,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly Complex Hard Drive Question

2005-04-14 Thread Tom Moyer
yeah but i don't think i will right away i thought I could get qemu to
run Windows XP but it seems there is a bug in it that prevents it from
booting correctly so I'll wait to do this for now.
I figured that the system would be more organized if i moved the
promary drive(120 Gig with Gentoo) to primary master (hda) instead of
leaving it as primary slave (hdb).  I guess it really doesn't matter
though.

On 4/14/05, Robert G. Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom Moyer wrote:
 
 I would like to swap hda and hdb.
 I don't want to swap any data across the drives I just want to have
 Gentoo be the only OS installed.
 
 Linux, including Gentoo, can run from any drive in the system.
 
 If Gentoo is not already your default boot from Grub, you can easily
 make it so; ask this if needed.
 
 If you want to COMPLETELY remove XP from the box, that is easy too,
 erase its partition and create another one (or more) there  to use as
 you like.  If, ask.
 
 If you don't want to swap any data from drive-x to drive-y, then you
 will not be able to use new partitions as /, /usr, /var, etc, since
 these are all already defined, so the newly-empty space would be, for
 instsance, /work or .music or whatever.
 
 I am not sure I understand the first two lines above, but if I
 understand #3 correctly, you __do__ want to *completely* erase XP, right?
 
 rgh.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:50:30 -0400 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I have a system with an apparently dead keyboard interface.  is there 
| any chance I could use the standard (or near standard) minimal boot CD
| and install everything via serial console?

What arch? It's supported on sparc, mips, hppa and arm at least and
should work automatically.
sorry, x86
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Re: [gentoo-user] screen is blinking with nvidia

2005-04-14 Thread Tim Beck
Thanks! I double checked my xorg.conf with the specifications of my
monitor and lowered the range of the horizontal refresh rate.  This
seems to have fixed the issue.

On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim Beck wrote:
 
 Just curious...is it a very very faint blinking, or is it a more
 dramatic blackening effect?
 
 I noticed the same thing with my workstation (which also has an nvidia
 card) and just thought I was nuts.  But it doesn't seem to do it in
 windows, so...
 
 On 4/14/05, Al Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 I just installed nvidia-glx and it is running.
 But the screeng semms like ((blinking)).
 
 Thank you for any help.
 
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 It was just a small blinking but very hard to support for my eyes.
 I Resolved this problem by adding the fine resolution and HorizRefresh
 VertRefreh in xorg.conf. (I search for the tchnical spec for my monitor)
 
 Now gentoo/nvidia run fine.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] X random freeze but mouse still moves

2005-04-14 Thread MalachiX


 Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
  MalachiX wrote:
  
 I have been battling an ongoing problem for a while.  When I am on
 Linux, X will just randomly freezes/hangs.  I can not control alt
 backspace.  The mouse still moves though, it is only the screen that
 freezes.
 
 The problem has been on Gentoo forum for a few months now:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023.html
 
 The problem is also posted about on the Nvidia forum:
 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31858
 
 What is responsible still is not clear.  If anyone even has a clue as to
 what may cause this problem, please reply.  I have tried changing my
 video card and messing with xorg,conf with no success.
  
  
  for completeness:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2155
  
  
 
 this dude has solved his issue

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=threadid=305123perpage=15pagenumber=2
 
 but be warned that installing manually nvidia drivers in your system may
 be suicide.
 
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he said he made he is running at the 4x rate.  In the nvidia readme it
says thats some VIA chipsets have experienced problems running at 4x so
Nvidia forces the computer run at the 2x rate.  The readme goes on to
say that you can try to turn on 4x but that is up to you, as it is
experimental.  Perhaps there is a problem when Nvidia forces the
computer to run at that 2x rate.  I will try to to enable the 4x rate,
I'm not going to tamper with the source code, there is a parameter you
can tell the Nvidia kernel, I will try that instead.  Hoepfully this
will work, thats for the link.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly Complex Hard Drive Question

2005-04-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
inlining...
Tom Moyer wrote:
yeah but i don't think i will right away i thought I could get qemu to
run Windows XP but it seems there is a bug in it that prevents it from
booting correctly so I'll wait to do this for now.
I figured that the system would be more organized if i moved the
promary drive(120 Gig with Gentoo) to primary master (hda) instead of
leaving it as primary slave (hdb).  I guess it really doesn't matter
though.
No, if the 40G/XP drive is doing nothing as hda, and grub boots you to 
gentoo on hdb, and your other 30G does whatever it does, this is as good 
as it gets (ref two recent messages about the two channels and optical 
drives).

Swapping won't make the channel/drives any faster, you're correct. 
(1/20th of one percent faster -- I doubt it, those days should be long 
gone.)

rgh.
On 4/14/05, Robert G. Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Tom Moyer wrote:
   

I would like to swap hda and hdb.
I don't want to swap any data across the drives I just want to have
Gentoo be the only OS installed.
 

Linux, including Gentoo, can run from any drive in the system.
If Gentoo is not already your default boot from Grub, you can easily
make it so; ask this if needed.
If you want to COMPLETELY remove XP from the box, that is easy too,
erase its partition and create another one (or more) there  to use as
you like.  If, ask.
If you don't want to swap any data from drive-x to drive-y, then you
will not be able to use new partitions as /, /usr, /var, etc, since
these are all already defined, so the newly-empty space would be, for
instsance, /work or .music or whatever.
I am not sure I understand the first two lines above, but if I
understand #3 correctly, you __do__ want to *completely* erase XP, right?
rgh.
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[gentoo-user] SSH printing to remote printer

2005-04-14 Thread Joseph
Here is my setup;
my gentoo box1 - internet - remote firewall/print server - remote gentoo 
box2
   |
   V
 printer

I want to print a document from my gentoo box1 to a printer that is
connected to remote firewall/print server WITHOUT COPYING DOCUMENT to
remote gentoo box2.

1.) Remote firewall has a port knocking installed and accept ssh
connection (that is easy part).

Solution a.)
I could open world-wide print serve port on remote firewall/print
server but I don't want to do it.

Solution b.)
write a small script to:
- open port on the remote firewall
- scp document over ssh to remote gentoo box2
- print the dcoument
- remove the document
- close connection
- close open port on remote firewall

Solution c.)
What I would like to do, is to print local document to remote print
server over ssh without copying this document to remote box2.

Is there a way of doing it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse pads

2005-04-14 Thread Ethan Zonca
totallyOn 4/14/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone else have trouble finding cool mouse pads? Does anyoneelse think that if they Gentoo store sold Gentoo mouse pads that theywould buy 3 or 4 of them. I do.I don't know where to vote for these things but if others agree and if
store type people are here make a few mouse pads. I'd pay $10 for acool purple Gentoo G.- Mark--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[gentoo-user] resuming emerge

2005-04-14 Thread Pupeno
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Is there any way to resume emerging ? I have a workstation which spent about 5 
hours compiling OpenOffice and I had to turn it off, I'd like to continue 
building it (that's the idea behind make and incremental building, isn't 
it?).
Is it possible ?
If no, am I the only one whishing this ?
thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] X random freeze but mouse still moves

2005-04-14 Thread Daniel Hackney
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I had this problem as well. If you are using composite, try turning
that off, as that is what did it for me.

Actually, I think I could have done some combination of leaving
composite on and fiddling with AllowCompositeWithGLX.

MalachiX wrote:

I have been battling an ongoing problem for a while. When I am on
Linux, X will just randomly freezes/hangs. I can not control alt
backspace. The mouse still moves though, it is only the screen that
freezes.

The problem has been on Gentoo forum for a few months now:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-198023.html

The problem is also posted about on the Nvidia forum:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31858

What is responsible still is not clear. If anyone even has a clue as to
what may cause this problem, please reply. I have tried changing my
video card and messing with xorg,conf with no success.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

 Thirdly you could use it to do something like home control

 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:Warm up

 TURNON AIR_CONDITIONING 22C

Scary.

 Plus some authentication!!

Yes, some VERY GOOD form of authentication would have to be employed...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 21:18 -0400, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
 
  Thirdly you could use it to do something like home control
 
  To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Warm up
 
  TURNON AIR_CONDITIONING 22C
 
 Scary.

if implemented Well, that could be a possibility.

but as of now, not being thought of.

 
  Plus some authentication!!
 
 Yes, some VERY GOOD form of authentication would have to be employed...
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a Mail Auto-Responder for Web via Email

2005-04-14 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT)
A. Khattri wrote:

 On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
 
  Thirdly you could use it to do something like home control
 
  To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Warm up
 
  TURNON AIR_CONDITIONING 22C
 
 Scary.
 
  Plus some authentication!!
 
 Yes, some VERY GOOD form of authentication would have to be employed...

some sort of gpg signing I suppose.

 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] resuming emerge

2005-04-14 Thread Jan Han Xie
On Friday 15 April 2005 09:43, Pupeno wrote:
 Is there any way to resume emerging ? I have a workstation which spent
 about 5 hours compiling OpenOffice and I had to turn it off, I'd like to
 continue building it (that's the idea behind make and incremental building,
 isn't it?).
 Is it possible ?
 If no, am I the only one whishing this ?
 thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] resuming emerge

2005-04-14 Thread mudrii
Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:
 Pupeno wrote:

Is there any way to resume emerging ? I have a workstation which spent 
about 5 hours compiling OpenOffice and I had to turn it off, I'd like 
to continue building it (that's the idea behind make and incremental 
building, isn't it?).
Is it possible ?
If no, am I the only one whishing this ?
thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console

2005-04-14 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 15. April 2005 01:13 schrieb ext Eric S. Johansson:
 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

  What arch? It's supported on sparc, mips, hppa and arm at least and
  should work automatically.

 sorry, x86

Just boot the CD with 2.6 kernel and check with

zcat /proc/config.gz|grep CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE

If it says CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y then it should work. Don't know about 
the CD's booloader.

HTH...

Dirk
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