Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ethereal bug?

2005-08-19 Thread Richard Fish

James wrote:


Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:


 


When I run ethereal as root (su -p) in a kde session,
it dies off when I end the capture session. I do not use
gnome, so I do not know if the problem exist there.
 



 


If I comment out this line:
gtk-alternative-button-order = 1
#gtk-alternative-button-order = 1
 



 


in the file:
.kde3.4/share/config/gtkrc
 



 


It does not die off (temporary fix)
 



 

But each time I reboot the portable 
I have to edit the file again.
 



 

What KDE theme  style are you using?  I don't seem to have this setting 
(or problem) in my gtkrc file...so I think maybe it is a theme-specific 
issue.
   



Good question. I have never set this(these) setting. Going through
'control panel'
Theme ManagerNothing is selected or highlighted under
'Choose your visual KDE theme:

At the bottom under 'style' is says 'plastik is the 'widget style'.
Can you be more specific as to what parameters I need to look at,
or maybe they are consolitdated in a config file somewhere?

James
 



You can check your current style/theme at:

~  grep CurrentTheme .kde3.4/share/config/kcmthememanagerrc
CurrentTheme=Plastik
~  grep widgetStyle .kde3.4/share/config/kdeglobals
widgetStyle=Plastik

Also, I did some more checking.  I do not have the 
gtk-alternative-button-order setting in .kde3.4/share/config/gtkrc file, 
but it *is* in my .kde3.4/.../gtkrc-2.0 file.  Coincidentally, my USE 
flags for ethereal specify gtk2.0:


carcharias rjf # emerge -Dv --pretend ethereal
...
[ebuild   R   ] net-analyzer/ethereal-0.10.12  -adns -gtk +gtk2 +ipv6 
-kerberos -snmp +ssl 0 kB


Are you building ethereal against gtk1.2 or gtk2.0?

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] SuperMicro P4SCT+ and SATA

2005-08-19 Thread David Busby

List,
  I'm trying to get 2005.1 onto this box I was just gifted.  It's got a SuperMicro p4sct+ with a goofy SATA controller. 
 I've got four hard drives in it, connected to these four SATA connectors (labeled like 1/5, 2/6, 3/7, 4/8).  I guess 
i'm using them in 1,2,3,4 mode.  But my gentoo cannot see the drives.  lspci sees the controller


:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory Controller Hub 
(rev 02)
:00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Processor to PCI to CSA 
Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6300ESB 64-bit PCI-X Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6300ESB USB Universal Host 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6300ESB USB Universal Host 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1d.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 6300ESB Watchdog Timer (rev 
02)
:00:1d.5 PIC: Intel Corporation 6300ESB I/O Advanced Programmable Interrupt 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6300ESB USB2 Enhanced Host 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 0a)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 6300ESB LPC Interface Controller 
(rev 02)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6300ESB PATA Storage Controller 
(rev 02)
:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 6300ESB SATA Storage Controller 
(rev 02)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6300ESB SMBus Controller (rev 02)
:01:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547GI Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller
:02:04.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. MV88SX5041 
4-port SATA I PCI-X Controller
:03:09.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
:03:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541GI/PI Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller

It's that dang Marvell thing, I think.  When it boots it says Adaptec-HOSTRAID something.  There are also two other SATA 
connectors, seems that they connect to the Intel controller.  Shouldn't ata_piix find it?  Seems like it.  What about a 
Marvell driver for the four drives, am I hosed?  Any ideas?


Relevant stuffs from dmesg

Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ICH5: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:1f.1
ICH5: chipset revision 2
ICH5: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
Probing IDE interface ide0...
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1
hdb: ATAPI DVD DD 2X16X4X16, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
Probing IDE interface ide1...
Probing IDE interface ide2...
Probing IDE interface ide3...
Probing IDE interface ide4...
Probing IDE interface ide5...
hdb: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[ ... ]
libata version 1.11 loaded.
ata_piix version 1.03
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1f.2 to 64
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE200 ctl 0xE302 bmdma 0xE600 irq 18
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xE400 ctl 0xE502 bmdma 0xE608 irq 18
ata1: SATA port has no device.
scsi0 : ata_piix
ata2: SATA port has no device.
scsi1 : ata_piix



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Re: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?

2005-08-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 18 August 2005 22:21, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Now I just get the same message that I got previously with the verbose
 splash:

 no 8bb picture selected in config file (twice)

 could not find silent image.

 Haven't tried verbose yet as I've compiled this kernel 5 times today and
 I'd really like to give the new ati drivers a spin for a while.

 I have:

 - copied most of the (working, afaik) emergence config file to the
 livecd config file;

 - converted the images to 8bit and saved them with the proper names;

 - put the full path to the images in the config file;

 - converted the 32-bit images from .png to .jpg

 None of it works. The images cannot be found.

Holly, I don't have that livecd theme. Can you tar /etc/splash and send it to 
me off the list? Maybe I can find out what's wrong with it.


 P.S, oh btw, thanks for the instructions about setting up a GRUB theme
 (which I have done, although using different instructions from yours, as
 yours didn't mention that the image must be created with certain
 constraints), but what I had said was that I needed a matching *GDM*
 theme :) . Not that it matters, since I have no splash to tie the GRUB
 theme to any future matching GDM theme anyway

I can't help here. I use KDM. ;-)

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] PC Speaker issue

2005-08-19 Thread Jason Castonguay
Hello listers!

I am very excited -- Gentoo is cleanly installed and I have successfully
booted.  I have one small problem, however.

My PC Speaker doesn't appear to be working.  I don't get a bell when
doing `echo -e \\a'.  I also use brltty -- a program which sends text on
the console to a refreshable braille display.  It uses the PC speaker to
make sounds to let the user know what is being turned on/off or to
indicate a certain operation is taking place.  I am not getting any of
those sounds either.

Could this have something to do with the terminal settings (just a
thought)?  Any and all comments/suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks very much.


Best regards,


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[gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Sébastien MORAND
Hi everybody,

I'm trying to clean my install (one year old, so it's time to do it). I run an
update, and run :
emerge --newuse -Dvu world

It installs a lot of update and so on and do everything ok.

Afterwards, I run :
revdep-rebuild

It makes a lot of rebuild about some broken link, I also uninstall so useless
software and/or lib.

Now, I'm quite sure everything is correctly linked, since runing emerge --newuse
-Dvu world or revdep-rebuild answers :  nothing has to be done .

Now I try the dangerous following command as describe in the documentation :
emerge --depclean -p (just to see what should be done)

And then I'm quite surprise, 41 packages should be removed, and among them, a
lot of usefull lib or tool (perl-ldap, xinetd, and so on ...)

Is this result normal ? What did I miss ?

Thank by advance about this your help.
Sébastien


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[gentoo-user] net.eth0 error

2005-08-19 Thread Zbynek Houska
Hello,

since yesterday I am getting such strange message at boot:


localhost ~ # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
 * Caching service dependencies ...
[ ok ] * Starting eth0
/etc/init.d/net.eth0: line 683: interface_variable: command not found
 *   Cannot default to dhcp as there is no dhcp module loaded
 *   No configuration for eth0
[ !! ]

and

localhost ~ # /etc/init.d/net.lo start
 * Starting lo
 *   Bringing up lo ...
/etc/init.d/net.lo: line 664: interface_loopback_create: command not fou
[ !! ]

my /etc/conf.d/net contains following:

config_eth0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
192.168.0.255 )
routes_eth0=(
default via 192.168.0.1
)

Could someone tell me where problem might be?
Zbynek

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge xorg-6.8.2-r2 under Gentoo 2005.1

2005-08-19 Thread Jamie Dobbs

The apparent solution to this, according to Bugzilla bug #48895

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48895 is to Try rebuilding freetype with 
-fno-strict-aliasing - how do I go about doing this?

Thanks

Jamie

Jamie Dobbs wrote:


I am trying to build Xorg on a newly installed 2005.1 system and get the
following output:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib
XLOCALEDIR=../../../exports/lib/locale  ../../../exports/bin/mkfontscale
-b -s -l   .
/usr/bin/fc-cache   .
make[5]: *** [fonts.cache] Illegal instruction
make[5]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2/work/xc/fonts/scaled/Type1'
make[4]: *** [all] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2/work/xc/fonts/scaled'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2/work/xc/fonts'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2/work/xc'
make[1]: *** [World] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2/work/xc'
make: *** [World] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 failed.
!!! Function build, Line 974, Exitcode 2
!!! make World failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.

I have searched Bugzilla but can't see any references to the error I am
experiencing, can anyone point me in the right direction?


 



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[gentoo-user] Re: net.eth0 error

2005-08-19 Thread Marek Więcek

Zbynek Houska wrote:


my /etc/conf.d/net contains following:

config_eth0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
192.168.0.255 )
routes_eth0=(
default via 192.168.0.1


Have you upgraded baselayout recently?
Did you do etc-update afterwards?
Do you have iproute2 installed?

If you did all above, then change /etc/conf.d/net
to following:

modules=( iproute2 )
config_eth0=( 192.168.0.3/24 brd 192.168.0.255 )
routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.0.1 )

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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Zac Medico

Sébastien MORAND wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm trying to clean my install (one year old, so it's time to do it). I run an
update, and run :
emerge --newuse -Dvu world

It installs a lot of update and so on and do everything ok.

Afterwards, I run :
revdep-rebuild

It makes a lot of rebuild about some broken link, I also uninstall so useless
software and/or lib.

Now, I'm quite sure everything is correctly linked, since runing emerge --newuse
-Dvu world or revdep-rebuild answers :  nothing has to be done .

Now I try the dangerous following command as describe in the documentation :
emerge --depclean -p (just to see what should be done)

And then I'm quite surprise, 41 packages should be removed, and among them, a
lot of usefull lib or tool (perl-ldap, xinetd, and so on ...)

Is this result normal ? What did I miss ?



Hi Sébastien,

It's normal for some packages to become unecessary as you update packages, 
unmerge packages, and change use flags.  Generally, it's best to do a depclean 
*before* packages are built (via direct emerge or revdep-rebuild).  Also, do a 
revdep-rebuild after a depclean.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:59:24 +0200, Sébastien MORAND wrote:

 Now I try the dangerous following command as describe in the
 documentation : emerge --depclean -p (just to see what should be done)
 
 And then I'm quite surprise, 41 packages should be removed, and among
 them, a lot of usefull lib or tool (perl-ldap, xinetd, and so on ...)
 
 Is this result normal ? What did I miss ?

This looks normal. For example, if you have -ldap in USE, you are
unlikely to need perl-ldap. Packages like these are generally only
installed as dependencies, they are not end user software, if nothing
needs them, they may as well be removed. 

You can run emerge world -uavDN and revdep-rebuild -p after removing
them, just to be certain your system is consistent.


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[gentoo-user] Re: ethereal bug?

2005-08-19 Thread James
Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:


 You can check your current style/theme at:

 ~  grep CurrentTheme .kde3.4/share/config/kcmthememanagerrc
 CurrentTheme=Plastik

Oddly, this file is not present on my system. Here's the 
listing:
ls .kde3.4/share/config/kcm*
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmartsrc.kde3.4/share/config/kcminputrc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmaudiocdrc .kde3.4/share/config/kcmkresourcesrc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmbellrc.kde3.4/share/config/kcmlaptoprc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmcddbrc.kde3.4/share/config/kcmmidirc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmdisplayrc .kde3.4/share/config/kcmnspluginrc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmfontinstuirc  .kde3.4/share/config/kcmshellrc


 ~  grep widgetStyle .kde3.4/share/config/kdeglobals
 widgetStyle=Plastik

Even more strange, I have this file, but there is nothing
that matches even a substring of widget 'idget'

the only substring matches I get are for 'Style'
XftHintStyle=hintmedium
View Style=Simple



 Also, I did some more checking.  I do not have the 
 gtk-alternative-button-order setting in .kde3.4/share/config/gtkrc file, 
 but it *is* in my .kde3.4/.../gtkrc-2.0 file.  Coincidentally, my USE 
 flags for ethereal specify gtk2.0:

 carcharias rjf # emerge -Dv --pretend ethereal
 ...
 [ebuild   R   ] net-analyzer/ethereal-0.10.12  -adns -gtk +gtk2 +ipv6 
 -kerberos -snmp +ssl 0 kB

 Are you building ethereal against gtk1.2 or gtk2.0?

emerge -Dv --pretend ethereal reveals

[ebuild   R   ] net-analyzer/ethereal-0.10.12  -adns -gtk +gtk2 +ipv6 -kerberos
-snmp +ssl 0 kB


???
James


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[gentoo-user] 2005 CD and lshw

2005-08-19 Thread James
Hello,

I wanted to use a Gentoo installation CD to be able to boot
up any pc and run lshw  lspci to get a quick view
of the hardware on the machine. lspci is on the 2005.0 
instllation CD but, lshw is not. I have not check 2005.1.

Is their a guide or 'howto' to add things to the 2005.x cd
so that one could customize the tools available at boot
time, or add additional software(tools)? Any other diag
tools I should add to a custom boot cd?

Sure be nice to have a cd that boots and supports as much hardware
as possible, so when you see a bargan in computer hardware
used or new, you can boot and check it out more closely.

Diags such ad memtest are already present and of great value,
especially when testing older, used systems. 

Ideas on adding lshw to the boot cd's are most appreciated?
It may be used where there is no Internet access, only 
the boot cd.

James

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[gentoo-user] SCSI Emulation Problem for USB

2005-08-19 Thread Tobias




 Hi!!

If i do dmesg i get scsi0 : sata_sil ...
shouldnt there be the SCSI Emultation 
scsi1 : sata_sil

 Vendor: ATA ... thats my SATA HD


if i do cat
/proc/scsi/scsi i get:

 
Attached devices:

Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00

 Vendor: ATA Model: HDS722580VLSA80 Rev: V32O

 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05

---

# the dmesg scsi msg


sata_sil version 0.9

ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3]
enabled at IRQ 11

ACPI: PCI Interrupt
:01:0b.0[A] - Link [LNK3] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ
11

ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE08AE080 ctl
0xE08AE08A bmdma 0xE08AE000 irq 11

ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE08AE0C0 ctl
0xE08AE0CA bmdma 0xE08AE008 irq 11

ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:74eb 83:7fea 84:4023
85:74e9 86:3c02 87:4023 88:203f

ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 160836480
sectors: lba48

ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100

scsi0 : sata_sil

ata2: no device found (phy stat )

scsi1 : sata_sil

 Vendor: ATA Model: HDS722580VLSA80 Rev: V32O

 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05

SCSI device sda: 160836480 512-byte hdwr sectors
(82348 MB)

SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back

SCSI device sda: 160836480 512-byte hdwr sectors
(82348 MB)

SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back

 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3  sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8


Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id
0, lun 0
-
Maybe a wrong interrupt is the
problem!


 CPU0 
 0: 4724423 XT-PIC timer

 1: 7103 XT-PIC i8042

 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade

 5: 944743 XT-PIC ehci_hcd:usb1, NVidia nForce2,
skge, ICE1712, eth0

 7: 5803 XT-PIC parport0

 8: 0 XT-PIC rtc

 9: 3 XT-PIC acpi, ohci_hcd:usb3, ohci1394

 10: 0 XT-PIC MPU401 UART

 11: 360076 XT-PIC ohci_hcd:usb2, libata, nvidia

 12: 223166 XT-PIC i8042

 14: 1200 XT-PIC ide0

 15: 1870 XT-PIC ide1

NMI: 0 
LOC: 4724640 
ERR: 53

MIS: 0


Please help!

Greetings,He4D





Re: [gentoo-user] SCSI Emulation Problem for USB

2005-08-19 Thread Daniel Drake

Tobias wrote:

Please help!


It would help if you started by explaining what you are trying to do, what you 
have tried, what problems you have faced, etc.


Daniel
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[gentoo-user] Keyboard problem with Gnome 2.10.1

2005-08-19 Thread Haaribaer

Hallo,

i am getting crazy with my actual Problem: When i log in (from gdm) into 
gnome 2.10.1 as standard user, my keyboard doesn't work. Every keypress 
is recognized. In xterm for example the cursor gets white if i press any 
key, but no chars are typed in. BUT when i log in as root, all works 
fine. Even in xscreensaver the keyboard works for the user, but it 
doesn't work in xterm, firefox, gedit, evolution, and so on...


I hope somebody has got any idea what could cause this strange 
behaviour. I have checked the Xorg-configuaration but hadn't found any 
errors. I am getting crazy about it!!


CTRL-ALT-F[1-6] for changing to the consoles also works as user AND as 
root. So i think it must be a problem in gnome-config, but i don't know 
where. I tried all config-Items but didn't find a solution. Furthermore 
i couldn't find help in the news-groups! :-(


Much thanks for your help  greetings from Cologne

Markus

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Re: [gentoo-user] SCSI Emulation Problem for USB

2005-08-19 Thread Tobias




Tobias wrote:

  
  
   Hi!!
  
  If i do dmesg i get scsi0 : sata_sil ...
shouldnt there be the SCSI Emultation 
  scsi1 : sata_sil
  
   Vendor: ATA ... thats my SATA HD
  
  
  if i do cat
/proc/scsi/scsi i get:
  
   
  Attached devices:
  
  Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  
   Vendor: ATA Model: HDS722580VLSA80 Rev: V32O
  
   Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05
  
  ---
  
  # the dmesg scsi msg
  
  
  sata_sil version 0.9
  
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3]
enabled at IRQ 11
  
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt
:01:0b.0[A] - Link [LNK3] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ
11
  
  ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE08AE080 ctl
0xE08AE08A bmdma 0xE08AE000 irq 11
  
  ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE08AE0C0 ctl
0xE08AE0CA bmdma 0xE08AE008 irq 11
  
  ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:74eb 83:7fea
84:4023
85:74e9 86:3c02 87:4023 88:203f
  
  ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 160836480
sectors: lba48
  
  ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100
  
  scsi0 : sata_sil
  
  ata2: no device found (phy stat )
  
  scsi1 : sata_sil
  
   Vendor: ATA Model: HDS722580VLSA80 Rev: V32O
  
   Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05
  
  SCSI device sda: 160836480 512-byte hdwr
sectors
(82348 MB)
  
  SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
  
  SCSI device sda: 160836480 512-byte hdwr
sectors
(82348 MB)
  
  SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
  
   sda: sda1 sda2 sda3  sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8

  
  Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id
0, lun 0
  -
  Maybe a wrong interrupt is the
problem!
  
  
   CPU0 
   0: 4724423 XT-PIC timer
  
   1: 7103 XT-PIC i8042
  
   2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
  
   5: 944743 XT-PIC ehci_hcd:usb1, NVidia
nForce2,
skge, ICE1712, eth0
  
   7: 5803 XT-PIC parport0
  
   8: 0 XT-PIC rtc
  
   9: 3 XT-PIC acpi, ohci_hcd:usb3, ohci1394
  
   10: 0 XT-PIC MPU401 UART
  
   11: 360076 XT-PIC ohci_hcd:usb2, libata,
nvidia
  
   12: 223166 XT-PIC i8042
  
   14: 1200 XT-PIC ide0
  
   15: 1870 XT-PIC ide1
  
  NMI: 0 
  LOC: 4724640 
  ERR: 53
  
  MIS: 0
  
  
  Please help!
  
  Greetings,He4D
  

Okay!
I want to mount my USB 2.0 Harddisk.
But i cant mount it without the /dev/sd device
Ive done everything that stands in the Gentoo USB Install Manual.
Nothing worked! The Kernel is 100% right configured!!

Greetings, He4D




Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies



And then I'm quite surprise, 41 packages should be removed, and among them, a
lot of usefull lib or tool (perl-ldap, xinetd, and so on ...)

Is this result normal ? What did I miss ?


1. it might be old stuff that really isn't needed anymore, as already 
mentioned by others


2. portage up to a short while ago had a bug (or feature?!?) that when 
you emerged a package for the first time and used -u to do this, it 
would not be added to the world file. Nowadays it does the right thing 
and adds it to the world file if you use -u or not. This means that 
possibly some packages that you emerged yourself and weren't pulled in 
as dependencies by other packages in the world file are now regarded by 
--depclean as unnecessary, as they don't appear in the world file 
themselves and aren't dependencies of anything in there.


This means that you'll have to go through the list resulting from a 
'--depclean -p' and have to see if you truly wanted that package, and if 
yes, re-emerge that package or add it to the world file yourself.


Once you're done remerging the stuff you want to keep and have cleaned 
out the rest, it would probably be best to check that everything is ok 
with a revdep-rebuild


In the future though, everything should work fine just as you were doing it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge xorg-6.8.2-r2 under Gentoo 2005.1

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 8/19/05, Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The apparent solution to this, according to Bugzilla bug #48895
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48895 is to Try rebuilding freetype 
 with -fno-strict-aliasing - how do I go about doing this?
 
 Thanks
 
 Jamie


It sounds like something you'd temporarily add to the compiler flags
in make.conf. Remember to take it back out if you do it that way. Also
consider making absolutely sure that you are only building xorg-x11 if
you do that.

There's likely a way to do it at the command line also. man emerge,
etc., to figure that out I suppose.

Good luck,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: net.eth0 error

2005-08-19 Thread Zbynek Houska
Marek Więcek píše v Pá 19. 08. 2005 v 11:40 +0200:
 Zbynek Houska wrote:
 
  my /etc/conf.d/net contains following:
  
  config_eth0=( 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
  192.168.0.255 )
  routes_eth0=(
  default via 192.168.0.1
 
 Have you upgraded baselayout recently?
 Did you do etc-update afterwards?
 Do you have iproute2 installed?

well, I omited to add that system was undergoing emerge -uD system, so I
figured out that culprit was me by not updating config files using
etc-update.
 
 If you did all above, then change /etc/conf.d/net
 to following:
 
 modules=( iproute2 )
 config_eth0=( 192.168.0.3/24 brd 192.168.0.255 )
 routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.0.1 )

so now everything works as expected :)

thank you for your patience.
 
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Zbynek

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Mark
I have a TDK indi DVD. It works perfectly. I would also add that I
have excellent results with LG products as others have mentioned.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SCSI Emulation Problem for USB

2005-08-19 Thread Zac Medico

Tobias wrote:

Tobias wrote:


Hi!!
If i do dmesg i get scsi0 : sata_sil ... shouldnt there be the SCSI 
Emultation

scsi1 : sata_sil
Vendor: ATA ... thats my SATA HD

if i do cat /proc/scsi/scsi i get:

Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: ATA Model: HDS722580VLSA80 Rev: V32O
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05
---
# the dmesg scsi msg

sata_sil version 0.9
ACPI: PCI *Interrupt* Link [LNK3] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI *Interrupt* :01:0b.0[A] - Link [LNK3] - GSI 11 (level, 
low) - IRQ 11
ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE08AE080 ctl 0xE08AE08A bmdma 0xE08AE000 
irq 11
ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xE08AE0C0 ctl 0xE08AE0CA bmdma 0xE08AE008 
irq 11
ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:74eb 83:7fea 84:4023 85:74e9 86:3c02 
87:4023 88:203f

ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 160836480 sectors: lba48
ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100
scsi0 : sata_sil
ata2: no device found (phy stat )
scsi1 : sata_sil
Vendor: ATA Model: HDS722580VLSA80 Rev: V32O
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05
SCSI device sda: 160836480 512-byte hdwr sectors (82348 MB)
SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
SCSI device sda: 160836480 512-byte hdwr sectors (82348 MB)
SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
sda: sda1 sda2 sda3  sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
-
Maybe a wrong *interrupt* is the problem!

CPU0
0: 4724423 XT-PIC timer
1: 7103 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
5: 944743 XT-PIC ehci_hcd:usb1, NVidia nForce2, skge, ICE1712, eth0
7: 5803 XT-PIC parport0
8: 0 XT-PIC rtc
9: 3 XT-PIC acpi, ohci_hcd:usb3, ohci1394
10: 0 XT-PIC MPU401 UART
11: 360076 XT-PIC ohci_hcd:usb2, libata, nvidia
12: 223166 XT-PIC i8042
14: 1200 XT-PIC ide0
15: 1870 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
LOC: 4724640
ERR: 53
MIS: 0

Please help!

Greetings,He4D


Okay!
I want to mount my USB 2.0 Harddisk.
But i cant mount it without the /dev/sd device
Ive done everything that stands in the Gentoo USB Install Manual.
Nothing worked! The Kernel is 100% right configured!!

Greetings, He4D



Make sure you have CONFIG_USB_STORAGE and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD enabled in your 
kernel config.  If the drivers are modular then you need usb_storage and sd_mod 
loaded (in addition to the usb drivers).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Friday 19 August 2005 06:08 am, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:59:24 +0200, Sébastien MORAND wrote:
  Now I try the dangerous following command as describe in the
  documentation : emerge --depclean -p (just to see what should be done)
 
  And then I'm quite surprise, 41 packages should be removed, and among
  them, a lot of usefull lib or tool (perl-ldap, xinetd, and so on ...)
 
  Is this result normal ? What did I miss ?

 This looks normal. For example, if you have -ldap in USE, you are
 unlikely to need perl-ldap. Packages like these are generally only
 installed as dependencies, they are not end user software, if nothing
 needs them, they may as well be removed.

 You can run emerge world -uavDN and revdep-rebuild -p after removing
 them, just to be certain your system is consistent.

Where do we easily find a list of necessary files, system files etc... so we 
dont inaverdently remove them? For instance I am using udev for some time 
now, can I let depclean remove devfsd?

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot freeze

2005-08-19 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Thursday 18 August 2005 02:47 am, Tony Davison wrote:
 On Wednesday 17 August 2005 23:28, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
  On Wednesday 17 August 2005 06:43 pm, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
   Hi!
  
   On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:10:51 -0400 Michael W. Holdeman
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 03:53 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 My desktop suddenly won't boot. It stops at Starting distccd...
 [ok] and sits there for hours??  I can reboot with
 ctrl-alt-del. How can I get it to continue to determint what is
 wrong? I tried several kernels and all do the same thing...
   
I should have noted, I can get it running with softlevel=singlest
don't know  how to determine the problem.
  
   I had the same problem this morning after updating baselayout to
   1.12.0_pre5, but the booting stopped after starting samba.
   Downgraded baselayout back to 1.11.13 and everything worked fine
   again.
 
  Thought that might be it, as My laptop is really booting weird now
  after upgrading as well. It runs some init scripts twice.

 Over enthusiastic use of etc-update option 5 ?
 There was a thread about this a while back, basically the new
 base-layouts move some of the init scripts to /etc/conf.d and can screw
 up networking if not properly configured.

Might be, although I use cfg-update, which I usually catch that stuff. I got 
it going yest. found some config files that were empty.. Not sure why, but 
everything is all ok with the desktop now. Now for th elaptop...

Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Humphrey


Mark wrote:

I have a TDK indi DVD. It works perfectly. I would also add that I
have excellent results with LG products as others have mentioned.

  

I also agree with the LG comments. They really are good. Only thing that
I can criticise is that the drives do get a bit fussy when it comes to
cheaper, lesser-known-brand disks - which my CD writer refuses to even
start a write on. Other than that, I've never had a bad write on my LG
CD writer.

I have a Lite-On DVD writer which is also very good. It writes on just
about anything except used toilet paper - which is what impressed me.
Plus it was quite a bit cheaper than the LG equivalent.



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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Mark Humphrey wrote:

Mark wrote:

  

I have a TDK indi DVD. It works perfectly. I would also add that I
have excellent results with LG products as others have mentioned.

 



I also agree with the LG comments. They really are good. Only thing that
I can criticise is that the drives do get a bit fussy when it comes to
cheaper, lesser-known-brand disks - which my CD writer refuses to even
start a write on. Other than that, I've never had a bad write on my LG
CD writer.

I have a Lite-On DVD writer which is also very good. It writes on just
about anything except used toilet paper - which is what impressed me.
Plus it was quite a bit cheaper than the LG equivalent.



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Hi,
Could recommend LiteON too for a DVD-writer (also had very good Nec CD-RW).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 07:03:52 -0400, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:

 Where do we easily find a list of necessary files, system files
 etc... so we dont inaverdently remove them? For instance I am using
 udev for some time now, can I let depclean remove devfsd?

They will be defined in your profile, and therefore be a dependency
of system. Emerge will show you a big, scary warning if you try to remove
one. The reason depclean wants to remove devfsd is that system no longer
requires it, current profiles default to udev.


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[gentoo-user] Hard drive activity indicator light

2005-08-19 Thread John J. Foster
Good morning,

Something that's been bothering me, although not that much, for about 3
years now. I've never investigated, and perhaps the answer is simple,
but every distro I've used (RH9, FC1, FC2, Suse 9.1, and now Gentoo),
has not shown the tiny blinking drive activity indicator on the front of
my tower. This machine has always, until a few weeks ago when I finally
dumped it for good, dual-booted with XP. And XP always showed activity
via the light when there was activity. I would have thought that this
was actually a hardware signal, and not OS related. But it doesn't
appear that way. This is with a WD 36GB SATA drive on a ASUS A7N8X
deluxe mobo w/ onboard Silicon Image controller.

Any, and all, help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive activity indicator light

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
John,
   None of my Linux boxes with SATA drives (3 machines) show drive
activity via the LED. It seems to be some limitation of the Linux
drivers.

   The SATA bus is a different hardware interface from the EIDE
interface. My suspicion has been that the LED is hard wired into the
EIDE controller and probably has to be driven by extra commands
(somehow...) when using the SATA interface. Keep in mind that the EIDE
controller is in your chipset and the Silicon Image SATA controller is
a completely separate chip so what it's doing may or may not be
visible to the hardware that drives the LED.

   Anyway, a bit long winded but you are not alone. ;-)

Cheers,
Mark

On 8/19/05, John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good morning,
 
 Something that's been bothering me, although not that much, for about 3
 years now. I've never investigated, and perhaps the answer is simple,
 but every distro I've used (RH9, FC1, FC2, Suse 9.1, and now Gentoo),
 has not shown the tiny blinking drive activity indicator on the front of
 my tower. This machine has always, until a few weeks ago when I finally
 dumped it for good, dual-booted with XP. And XP always showed activity
 via the light when there was activity. I would have thought that this
 was actually a hardware signal, and not OS related. But it doesn't
 appear that way. This is with a WD 36GB SATA drive on a ASUS A7N8X
 deluxe mobo w/ onboard Silicon Image controller.
 
 Any, and all, help is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 John
 
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[gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
--update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
pick, the best version available?

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread John J. Foster
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:01:42AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
 --update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
 pick, the best version available?
 
Although I'm not totally sure, my reading is that it will grab the
highest version marked stable. But I've been wrong before!

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef:
 Hi,
I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
 --update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
 pick, the best version available?
 
 - Mark
 

For those wondering, here's the quote:

--update (-u)
  Updates packages to the best version available, which may
not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and
 development.   This will also update direct dependencies which may not
be what you want.  In general, use this option only in combination with
the world or system target.

I accept that this is somewhat unclear, but to explain it fully would
take more space than a man page really is for.

But anyway, the 'best' version available is mostly determined by the
arch masks, which are determined by the developers.

Best in this case is a somewhat poor choice of words, but at least
indicates the subjectiveness of the determination.

In any case, a few examples:


media-video/mplayer
 Available versions:  1.0_pre6-r4 1.0_pre6-r5 1.0_pre6-r6 1.0_pre7
 Installed:   1.0_pre7
 Homepage:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
 Description: Media Player for Linux

All available versions of mplayer are stable, so the 'best' version is
the most recent stable.

 media-libs/xine-lib
 Available versions:  ~1_rc6-r2 1_rc8-r1 1.0-r2 1.0.1-r3 ~1.0.2
~1.1.0 ~1.1.0-r1
 Installed:   1.0.1-r3
 Homepage:http://xine.sourceforge.net/
 Description: Core libraries for Xine movie player

in this case, if one was using stable arch, and had not activated
unstable for this package (as I haven't), the best version is the most
recent stable (1.0.1-r3), which is not the most recent version.

However, if one was using ~arch, or had activated unstable for this
package in /etc/portage/package.mask, then the 'best' version would be
1.1.0-r1, which is the most recent revision, but not in stable Portage.

 media-video/ati-drivers
 Available versions:  8.8.25-r3 8.10.19 8.12.10 [M]8.13.3 [M]8.13.4
8.14.13 8.14.13-r1 8.14.13-r2 [M]8.14.13-r3 *8.16.20
 Installed:   8.14.13-r2
 Homepage:http://www.ati.com
 Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r350, r300, r250
and r200 chipsets

Now in this case, the 'best' version is the most recent stable. The
second most recent version (8.14.13-r3) is hard masked, but if I
unmasked it with /etc/portage/package.unmask (and possibly also
/etc/portage/package.keywords), then Portage would consider it the
'best', insofar as it would attempt to install it if I upgraded the
drivers. Of course, the very fact that you have to manually unmask the
packages should give you pause as to whether you really want to consider
this the 'best' for you.

The very most recent version (8.16.20) is 'not available' -- meaning
that it will never be considered the 'best' version until it returns to
Portage; masking or unmasking is of no use here. I know, because I had
unmasked and installed the latest drivers, which did not work well, to
put it mildly, and today I synced and Portage downgraded them. I would
have downgraded them manually anyway, but it  was interesting to see
Portage downgrade them by force despite the fact that they were still
unmasked.  They have so many problems that they are no longer on the
Portage radar until the issues are determined to at least an extent that
someone knows what to fix, and who has to fix it (Gentoo, the kernel
guys if it's a kernel conflict, ATI).

So, 'best' is a matter of judgement, and basically Gentoo sorts packages
into categories so that you can have some context to make the judgement
about what is best *for you*. If stable is best for you, then Portage
will choose the stable packages (because you told it to). If unstable is
best for you, then Portage will choose the unstable packages (because
you told it to). If stable is generally best, but in some specific
cases, unstable is best for you, then Portage will choose the stable
packages except where you told it that unstable is OK.

That's how it's done, mostly.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ethereal bug?

2005-08-19 Thread Richard Fish

James wrote:


Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:


 


You can check your current style/theme at:
   



 


~  grep CurrentTheme .kde3.4/share/config/kcmthememanagerrc
CurrentTheme=Plastik
   



Oddly, this file is not present on my system. Here's the 
listing:

ls .kde3.4/share/config/kcm*
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmartsrc.kde3.4/share/config/kcminputrc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmaudiocdrc .kde3.4/share/config/kcmkresourcesrc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmbellrc.kde3.4/share/config/kcmlaptoprc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmcddbrc.kde3.4/share/config/kcmmidirc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmdisplayrc .kde3.4/share/config/kcmnspluginrc
.kde3.4/share/config/kcmfontinstuirc  .kde3.4/share/config/kcmshellrc


 


~  grep widgetStyle .kde3.4/share/config/kdeglobals
widgetStyle=Plastik
   



Even more strange, I have this file, but there is nothing
that matches even a substring of widget 'idget'

the only substring matches I get are for 'Style'
XftHintStyle=hintmedium
View Style=Simple



 

Also, I did some more checking.  I do not have the 
gtk-alternative-button-order setting in .kde3.4/share/config/gtkrc file, 
but it *is* in my .kde3.4/.../gtkrc-2.0 file.  Coincidentally, my USE 
flags for ethereal specify gtk2.0:
   



 


carcharias rjf # emerge -Dv --pretend ethereal
...
[ebuild   R   ] net-analyzer/ethereal-0.10.12  -adns -gtk +gtk2 +ipv6 
-kerberos -snmp +ssl 0 kB
   



 


Are you building ethereal against gtk1.2 or gtk2.0?
   



emerge -Dv --pretend ethereal reveals

[ebuild   R   ] net-analyzer/ethereal-0.10.12  -adns -gtk +gtk2 +ipv6 -kerberos
-snmp +ssl 0 kB


???
James

 



Very strange...at this point, I would suggest logout of kde, move 
.kde3.4 to .kde3.4.old, and login again.  Everything will be set back to 
KDE defaults, so you can try ethereal again and see if you have the same 
problem.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Holly Bostick schreef:
 
  media-libs/xine-lib
  Available versions:  ~1_rc6-r2 1_rc8-r1 1.0-r2 1.0.1-r3 ~1.0.2
 ~1.1.0 ~1.1.0-r1
 
 However, if one was using ~arch, or had activated unstable for this
 package in /etc/portage/package.mask, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with ramdisk

2005-08-19 Thread Richard Fish

Ognjen Bezanov wrote:



Thanks, that was helpful. Now the system finds the root fs and loads it.
But the system still wont boot. It tells me RAMDISK: Compressed image
found at block 0  as a final kernel message, then just sits there (for
ages).  At lease its closer to functioning then before, but there are a
few bugs to iron out.

What could be wrong?

 



Check that your /linuxrc script inside the initrd has exec permissions.  
Also, you might want to place an:


echo Hello from linuxrc

message near the top of the script to see if the kernel is executing it.

I assume that the initrd image has /dev/console, /dev/null, and /dev/zero?

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Re: [gentoo-user] after emerge -Du world - - no sound no errors

2005-08-19 Thread maxim wexler


--- Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 maxim wexler schreef:
  Hello everyone,
  
  Sound files played fine prior to the update.
  
  When unit boots speakers thump at Loading:
  snd-seq-oss...as before.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ lsmod
  Module  Size  Used by
  fglrx 238332  0 
  agpgart33320  1 fglrx
  ppp_deflate 6272  0 
  zlib_deflate   22680  1 ppp_deflate
  zlib_inflate   18304  1 ppp_deflate
  ppp_async  11392  1 
  crc_ccitt   2176  1 ppp_async
  ppp_generic23828  6
 ppp_deflate,ppp_async
  slhc7680  1 ppp_generic
  snd_pcm_oss58784  0 
  snd_mixer_oss  19584  1 snd_pcm_oss
  snd_seq_oss33024  0 
  snd_seq_midi_event  7424  1 snd_seq_oss
  snd_seq54416  4
  snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
  snd_seq_device  8844  2
 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
  uhci_hcd   31244  0 
  rtc 8212  0 
  ohci1394   32900  0 
  ieee1394  103220  1 ohci1394
  snd_intel8x0   31040  0 
  snd_ac97_codec 69760  1 snd_intel8x0
  snd_pcm93320  3
  snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
  snd_timer  24836  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
  snd56452  10
  snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_m
 

idi_event,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
  soundcore   9184  1 snd
  snd_page_alloc 10372  2
 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
  ohci_hcd   29448  0 
  ntfs  207668  1 
  displays
  
  Sound files play but without sound and without
 any
  sort of error. Nothing in dmesg, messages amiss.
  alsasound(newly created in /etc/init.d) is listed
 in 
  /etc/runlevels/boot and properly linked.
  
  Only hint that something is wrong: boot console
 fails
  to display mixer settings as before.
  
  Yes, my username *is* in the audio group.
  
  Must be something simple, but what?
  
  
  
 
 Idea #1: Put alsasound in default, rather than boot
 runlevel. There is
 no use for sound in the boot runlevel, and having it
 there often causes
 (weird, inexplicable) problems.

Doesn't work. madplay gives the error

Audio: esd_open_sound() failed

but the other players xmms, ogg123, mpg123 churn away
as if nothing was wrong

 
 Idea #2: might something have gone wonky with your
 mixer settings?
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ amixer
[...]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
[...]
everythings else is off

 HTH,
 Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync mirroring

2005-08-19 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Jonathan,
on Thursday, 2005-08-18 at 16:42:56, you wrote:
 I've been syncing a few machines via /usr/portage without a problem. At 
 least with that method you only need to perform one sync on the main 
 machine and then let the others sync off it.

That's what I was thinking...OK, I'll just try it that way. Thanx!

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 8/19/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht schreef:
  Hi,
 I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
  --update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
  pick, the best version available?
 
  - Mark
 
 
 For those wondering, here's the quote:
 
 --update (-u)
   Updates packages to the best version available, which may
 not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and
  development.   This will also update direct dependencies which may not
 be what you want.  In general, use this option only in combination with
 the world or system target.
 
 I accept that this is somewhat unclear, but to explain it fully would
 take more space than a man page really is for.
 
SNIP
  media-video/ati-drivers
  Available versions:  8.8.25-r3 8.10.19 8.12.10 [M]8.13.3 [M]8.13.4
 8.14.13 8.14.13-r1 8.14.13-r2 [M]8.14.13-r3 *8.16.20
  Installed:   8.14.13-r2
  Homepage:http://www.ati.com
  Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r350, r300, r250
 and r200 chipsets
 
 Now in this case, the 'best' version is the most recent stable. The
 second most recent version (8.14.13-r3) is hard masked, but if I
 unmasked it with /etc/portage/package.unmask (and possibly also
 /etc/portage/package.keywords), then Portage would consider it the
 'best', insofar as it would attempt to install it if I upgraded the
 drivers. Of course, the very fact that you have to manually unmask the
 packages should give you pause as to whether you really want to consider
 this the 'best' for you.
 
 The very most recent version (8.16.20) is 'not available' -- meaning
 that it will never be considered the 'best' version until it returns to
 Portage; masking or unmasking is of no use here. I know, because I had
 unmasked and installed the latest drivers, which did not work well, to
 put it mildly, and today I synced and Portage downgraded them. I would
 have downgraded them manually anyway, but it  was interesting to see
 Portage downgrade them by force despite the fact that they were still
 unmasked.  They have so many problems that they are no longer on the
 Portage radar until the issues are determined to at least an extent that
 someone knows what to fix, and who has to fix it (Gentoo, the kernel
 guys if it's a kernel conflict, ATI).
 
Hi Holly,
   Yes, the explanation you give is pretty much what I already knew,
with the exception of the ati-drivers example. If this thread is worth
continuing then it's probably around that sort of situation.

   So far:

MASKED == not available unless we unmask a package by hand.

for stable - highest available stable version would be chosen
for ~arch - highest version available, whether stable or ~arch, would be chosen

However, in your ati-drivers example you use the term 'not available'
for the 8.16.20 version. That's an interesting choice of words since
any version 'not available' would (in my mind) never be chosen by
--update. It's not part of 'best' because it's not available, or so it
seems to me. Best is still the highest version using stable and only
changes (I think) if you do an umask in portage.unmask.

   I think that my question was mostly born out of sort of vague
language in the man page. I don't think there's any real mystery here
but I've wondered about if for awhile and just wanted to be sure I
wasn't missing some great undiscovered feature of portage!

   Thanks for taking the time to write.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 8/19/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Holly Bostick schreef:
 
   media-libs/xine-lib
   Available versions:  ~1_rc6-r2 1_rc8-r1 1.0-r2 1.0.1-r3 ~1.0.2
  ~1.1.0 ~1.1.0-r1
 
  However, if one was using ~arch, or had activated unstable for this
  package in /etc/portage/package.mask,
 
 which should of course be /etc/portage/package.keywords... sigh.

Well, yes, but you're forgiven! ;-)

(Or also at the command line with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 even though
it's somewhat frowned upon these days.)

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:27:39PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Mark Knecht schreef:
  Hi,
 I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
  --update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
  pick, the best version available?
  
  - Mark
  
 
snip 
 So, 'best' is a matter of judgement, and basically Gentoo sorts packages
 into categories so that you can have some context to make the judgement
 about what is best *for you*. If stable is best for you, then Portage
 will choose the stable packages (because you told it to). If unstable is
 best for you, then Portage will choose the unstable packages (because
 you told it to). If stable is generally best, but in some specific
 cases, unstable is best for you, then Portage will choose the stable
 packages except where you told it that unstable is OK.
 
 That's how it's done, mostly.

One other thing is that --update is often contrasted against the now
deprecated --upgradeonly option from yonder times. 

If, say, you updated a package yesterday, and someone found a critical
bug in it this morning. The devs decide to hard-mask the ebuild until
the problem is solved. 
   emerge --update world
will downgrade that packages to the latest one not hard-masked and
fits in your profile, while 
   emerge --upgradeonly world
will skip that downgrade. I suppose this might have been used before
packages.keywords were introduced and allowed people who installed
certain programs using 
   KEYWORDS=~arch emerge ...
to not constantly worry about the up-and-down jumpiness of updates. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies


dont inaverdently remove them? For instance I am using udev for some time 
now, can I let depclean remove devfsd?


yes you can, at least i had no problems with that

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[gentoo-user] cdrom /dev/cdroms/cdrom to /dev/hdc?

2005-08-19 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
What did I miss, my cdrom is no longer /dev/cdroms/cdrom, but now /dev/hdc??

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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom /dev/cdroms/cdrom to /dev/hdc?

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Mike,

How about /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 being mapped by udev to /dev/hdc?

- Mark

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 What did I miss, my cdrom is no longer /dev/cdroms/cdrom, but now /dev/hdc??
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] after emerge -Du world - - no sound no errors

2005-08-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:41:46AM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ amixer
 [...]
 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
   Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [on]
   Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [on]
 Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
 [...]
 everythings else is off

I don't know about your computer, but on my desktop, to get sound to
play, I also need to turn on Headphones

[12:48 PM]wwong ~ $ amixer sget Headphone 
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 24 [77%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 24 [77%] [on]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive activity indicator light

2005-08-19 Thread Wade Brown
You might want to check a few other options available to you.  Often
times, hard drives have a specific 2-pin LED connector on the drive
itself.  This is typically used for having one LED per drive instead
one LED per bus, and most commonly found in RAID solutions.  Being a
SATA drive, it's likely your drive has this connecter as well, and it
would be worth looking in your product specifications for.  Granted,
this solution means you only receive a blinking LED for the SATA drive
(all other devices are SOL), but it's at least one more option to
consider.

As a side note to Mark's comment, I'm not sure it's standard
specification.  I have a Biostar iDeq 220T, with on board SATA RAID,
and the access LED lights up fine for me in Gentoo with no cajoling to
speak of.  It seems more chipset specific than a standard
specification.

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On 8/19/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John,
None of my Linux boxes with SATA drives (3 machines) show drive
 activity via the LED. It seems to be some limitation of the Linux
 drivers.
 
The SATA bus is a different hardware interface from the EIDE
 interface. My suspicion has been that the LED is hard wired into the
 EIDE controller and probably has to be driven by extra commands
 (somehow...) when using the SATA interface. Keep in mind that the EIDE
 controller is in your chipset and the Silicon Image SATA controller is
 a completely separate chip so what it's doing may or may not be
 visible to the hardware that drives the LED.
 
Anyway, a bit long winded but you are not alone. ;-)
 
 Cheers,
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  Good morning,
 
  Something that's been bothering me, although not that much, for about 3
  years now. I've never investigated, and perhaps the answer is simple,
  but every distro I've used (RH9, FC1, FC2, Suse 9.1, and now Gentoo),
  has not shown the tiny blinking drive activity indicator on the front of
  my tower. This machine has always, until a few weeks ago when I finally
  dumped it for good, dual-booted with XP. And XP always showed activity
  via the light when there was activity. I would have thought that this
  was actually a hardware signal, and not OS related. But it doesn't
  appear that way. This is with a WD 36GB SATA drive on a ASUS A7N8X
  deluxe mobo w/ onboard Silicon Image controller.
 
  Any, and all, help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom /dev/cdroms/cdrom to /dev/hdc?

2005-08-19 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
Actually the problem is /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 has been the cdrom since this 
machine got Gentoo, now all the sudden it is listed in dmesg as /dev/hdc. 

I think I have some issues with the latest baselayout. My boot process seems 
to repaeat itself when loding drivers and starting the network. I need to do 
some digging.

This is probably all related to a baselayout problem, KDE is messed up with 
kdesu, I can't upgrade my nvidia-kernel, and nvidia-glx above 1.0.7174 or I 
get version mismatches.  

Mike

On Friday 19 August 2005 12:47 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 How about /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 being mapped by udev to /dev/hdc?

 - Mark

 On 8/19/05, Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What did I miss, my cdrom is no longer /dev/cdroms/cdrom, but now
  /dev/hdc??
 
  Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef:
 On 8/19/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Mark Knecht schreef:

Hi,
   I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
--update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
pick, the best version available?

- Mark


For those wondering, here's the quote:

--update (-u)
  Updates packages to the best version available, which may
not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and
 development.   This will also update direct dependencies which may not
be what you want.  In general, use this option only in combination with
the world or system target.

I accept that this is somewhat unclear, but to explain it fully would
take more space than a man page really is for.

 
 SNIP
 
 media-video/ati-drivers
 Available versions:  8.8.25-r3 8.10.19 8.12.10 [M]8.13.3 [M]8.13.4
8.14.13 8.14.13-r1 8.14.13-r2 [M]8.14.13-r3 *8.16.20
 Installed:   8.14.13-r2
 Homepage:http://www.ati.com
 Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r350, r300, r250
and r200 chipsets

Now in this case, the 'best' version is the most recent stable. The
second most recent version (8.14.13-r3) is hard masked, but if I
unmasked it with /etc/portage/package.unmask (and possibly also
/etc/portage/package.keywords), then Portage would consider it the
'best', insofar as it would attempt to install it if I upgraded the
drivers. Of course, the very fact that you have to manually unmask the
packages should give you pause as to whether you really want to consider
this the 'best' for you.

The very most recent version (8.16.20) is 'not available' -- meaning
that it will never be considered the 'best' version until it returns to
Portage; masking or unmasking is of no use here. I know, because I had
unmasked and installed the latest drivers, which did not work well, to
put it mildly, and today I synced and Portage downgraded them. I would
have downgraded them manually anyway, but it  was interesting to see
Portage downgrade them by force despite the fact that they were still
unmasked.  They have so many problems that they are no longer on the
Portage radar until the issues are determined to at least an extent that
someone knows what to fix, and who has to fix it (Gentoo, the kernel
guys if it's a kernel conflict, ATI).

 
 Hi Holly,
Yes, the explanation you give is pretty much what I already knew,
 with the exception of the ati-drivers example. If this thread is worth
 continuing then it's probably around that sort of situation.
 
So far:
 
 MASKED == not available unless we unmask a package by hand.
 
 for stable - highest available stable version would be chosen
 for ~arch - highest version available, whether stable or ~arch, would be 
 chosen
 
 However, in your ati-drivers example you use the term 'not available'
 for the 8.16.20 version. That's an interesting choice of words since
 any version 'not available' would (in my mind) never be chosen by
 --update. It's not part of 'best' because it's not available, or so it
 seems to me. 

It's not my choice of words. Look at packages.gentoo.org and search
ati-drivers.

8.16.20 is - for x86, which in the legend is listed as 'not available'.
However, this is a status change from yesterday, when it was hard masked
(actually hard masked so I had to unmask it in package.unmask). Today
the package is no longer available, so when I went to update the package
again (after a sync), the package was downgraded, despite still being
unmasked. Atm I still have the ebuild, but I imagine if I synced again,
it would be removed. The reason I mention it is that if 'best' means
'the most recent' (which is really the only way to quantify such a
subjective quality as 'best' for an automated system like Portage), the
'best' version has been known to be removed from Portage completely.
Consider the case of unace, for example. The version available in
Portage is quite old, and won't open newer *.ace files due to its age,
but the 'best' version (i.e., the most current) is not available in
Portage at all (unstable or masked; it's just 'not available', because
of serious security bugs.

 Best is still the highest version using stable and only
 changes (I think) if you do an umask in portage.unmask.

'Best' is the highest version available in Portage, based on your
profile (profiles mask packages or keywords based on the needs of the
profile), your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting in /etc/make.conf (which may be
~arch, after all, so the highest version using stable would not be
accurate in that case), and any adjustments you may have made in
/etc/portage/package.keywords and/or /etc/portage/package.unmask.

Because 'best' is a matter of judgement, and these settings are your
judgement as to what is 'best' for you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot freeze

2005-08-19 Thread Tony Davison
On Thursday 18 August 2005 22:52, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 On Thursday 18 August 2005 02:47 am, Tony Davison wrote:
  On Wednesday 17 August 2005 23:28, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
   On Wednesday 17 August 2005 06:43 pm, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
Hi!
   
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:10:51 -0400 Michael W. Holdeman
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 17 August 2005 03:53 pm, Michael W. Holdeman 
wrote:
  My desktop suddenly won't boot. It stops at Starting
  distccd... [ok] and sits there for hours??  I can reboot
  with ctrl-alt-del. How can I get it to continue to
  determint what is wrong? I tried several kernels and all do
  the same thing...

 I should have noted, I can get it running with
 softlevel=singlest don't know  how to determine the problem.
   
I had the same problem this morning after updating baselayout
to 1.12.0_pre5, but the booting stopped after starting samba.
Downgraded baselayout back to 1.11.13 and everything worked
fine again.
  
   Thought that might be it, as My laptop is really booting weird
   now after upgrading as well. It runs some init scripts twice.
 
  Over enthusiastic use of etc-update option 5 ?
  There was a thread about this a while back, basically the new
  base-layouts move some of the init scripts to /etc/conf.d and can
  screw up networking if not properly configured.

 Might be, although I use cfg-update, which I usually catch that
 stuff. I got it going yest. found some config files that were empty..
 Not sure why, but everything is all ok with the desktop now. Now for
 th elaptop...

I know how you feel.
Just got a new baselayout 1.12.0-pre6 and it changes /etc/conf.d/net 
quite dramatically. I had to upgrade dhcpcd which then lost 
my /etc/ntp.conf. To get that back i had to re-emerge ntp, 'cos it also 
overwrote the example file in usr/share/.

maybe I'm getting too old for this ~arch stuff :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot freeze

2005-08-19 Thread Michael W. Holdeman

 maybe I'm getting too old for this ~arch stuff :-)

HA! You have no Idea!!
I sometimes feel too old then I think well I AM!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom /dev/cdroms/cdrom to /dev/hdc?

2005-08-19 Thread Daniel Drake

Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
Actually the problem is /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 has been the cdrom since this 
machine got Gentoo, now all the sudden it is listed in dmesg as /dev/hdc. 


dmesg has listed it like that for a long time. Chances are in your previous 
configuration (whatever that was) you had both /dev/hdc and 
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0, one was the real node and one was a symlink. On my system, 
cdrom0 is a symlink to hdc.


This is probably all related to a baselayout problem, KDE is messed up with 
kdesu, I can't upgrade my nvidia-kernel, and nvidia-glx above 1.0.7174 or I 
get version mismatches.  


Sounds like /usr/src/linux is incorrect or you just need to reload the nvidia 
module after upgrading.


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[gentoo-user] emerge woes

2005-08-19 Thread Nick Smith

haven't updated 
my box in a while and when I tried this afternoon and I get this error and cant 
seem to get past it. any ideas? actually im getting several emerge errors across 
a couple boxes, this is just one of them, different files, but I hope they are 
somehow related and the answer to this will fix the others.

thanks for any and all help.

tuxbox htdocs # emerge -uD 
worldCalculating world dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 
257) sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 to / Downloading http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2--14:47:32-- 
http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2 
= `/usr/portage/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2'Resolving gentoo.seren.com... 
65.245.115.11Connecting to gentoo.seren.com[65.245.115.11]:80... 
connected.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OKLength: 305,598 
[application/x-tar]
100%[==] 
305,598 13.81K/s ETA 
00:00
14:48:17 (8.08 KB/s) - 
`/usr/portage/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2' saved [305598/305598]
 md5 files 
;-) m4-1.4.2-r1.ebuild md5 files ;-) 
m4-1.4.1.ebuild md5 files ;-) 
m4-1.4.3.ebuild md5 files ;-) 
ChangeLog md5 files ;-) metadata.xml 
md5 files ;-) files/digest-m4-1.4.2-r1 md5 
files ;-) files/m4-1.4.3-autotools.patch md5 
files ;-) files/digest-m4-1.4.1 md5 
files ;-) files/digest-m4-1.4.3 md5 
files ;-) files/m4-1.4.3-pointer.patch md5 src_uri 
;-) m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2 Unpacking source... 
Unpacking m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/m4-1.4.3/work* Applying 
m4-1.4.3-autotools.patch 
... 
[ ok ]* Applying m4-1.4.3-pointer.patch 
... 
[ ok ] Source unpacked../configure --prefix=/usr 
--host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info 
--datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --enable-nls 
--enable-changewordconfigure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build 
type, don't use --host. If a cross compiler is detected 
then cross compile mode will be used.checking for gawk... gawkchecking 
for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gccchecking for C compiler 
default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create 
executablesSee `config.log' for more details.
!!! Please attach the config.log to 
your bug report:!!! 
/var/tmp/portage/m4-1.4.3/work/m4-1.4.3/config.log
!!! ERROR: sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 
failed.!!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0!!! econf failed!!! 
If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

[gentoo-user] Autoconfiguring default route

2005-08-19 Thread José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández
I still can figure out how to configure my default route with the new 
configuration format (as stupid as that may sound).
I have this:
config_eth0=( 192.168.1.5/24 )
which works and:
route_eth0=default gw 192.168.1.101
which doesn't work. I tried:
route_eth0=(default via 192.168.1.101)
and
route_eth0=default via 192.168.1.101
noting works. I get no error and no default route.
Any ides how to get some output of what's going on or something like ? Or a 
solution ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom /dev/cdroms/cdrom to /dev/hdc?

2005-08-19 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Friday 19 August 2005 02:05 pm, Daniel Drake wrote:
 Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
  Actually the problem is /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 has been the cdrom since this
  machine got Gentoo, now all the sudden it is listed in dmesg as /dev/hdc.

 dmesg has listed it like that for a long time. Chances are in your previous
 configuration (whatever that was) you had both /dev/hdc and
 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0, one was the real node and one was a symlink. On my
 system, cdrom0 is a symlink to hdc.

  This is probably all related to a baselayout problem, KDE is messed up
  with kdesu, I can't upgrade my nvidia-kernel, and nvidia-glx above
  1.0.7174 or I get version mismatches.

 Sounds like /usr/src/linux is incorrect or you just need to reload the
 nvidia module after upgrading.

No the problem seems to be that emerging nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx builds the 
files but somehow actually installs teh new gls, and not the new kernel. I 
don't know why, there have been a few bug reports about this but I can't seem 
to solve it with either. 
weird thing it has happened since 1.0.7174 as this seems to work fine. If I 
upgrade and can't start x I just downgrade to this version on both and works 
fine..

Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Autoconfiguring default route

2005-08-19 Thread Mike Owen
On 8/19/05, José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I still can figure out how to configure my default route with the new
 configuration format (as stupid as that may sound).
 I have this:
 route_eth0=(default via 192.168.1.101)

Change that to routes_eth0 and it should work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge woes

2005-08-19 Thread maxim wexler
Just fixed a similar problem. The answer(for me) was
in the config.log. It wasn't flagged as an error just
a line saying /usr/local/include not a dir. At which
point output simply stopped without a whimper. Sure
enough 'include' was a file containing an include file
with a different name--there never was a
/usr/local/include dir. Once that was sorted all was
serene :) 

--- Nick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 haven't updated my box in a while and when I tried
 this afternoon and I get this error and cant seem to
 get past it. any ideas? actually im getting several
 emerge errors across a couple boxes, this is just
 one of them, different files, but I hope they are
 somehow related and the answer to this will fix the
 others.
  
 thanks for any and all help.
  
 tuxbox htdocs # emerge -uD world
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
  emerge (1 of 257) sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 to /
  Downloading

http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2
 --14:47:32-- 

http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2
=
 `/usr/portage/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2'
 Resolving gentoo.seren.com... 65.245.115.11
 Connecting to gentoo.seren.com[65.245.115.11]:80...
 connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 305,598 [application/x-tar]

100%[==]
 305,598   13.81K/sETA 00:00
 14:48:17 (8.08 KB/s) -
 `/usr/portage/distfiles/m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2' saved
 [305598/305598]
  md5 files   ;-) m4-1.4.2-r1.ebuild
  md5 files   ;-) m4-1.4.1.ebuild
  md5 files   ;-) m4-1.4.3.ebuild
  md5 files   ;-) ChangeLog
  md5 files   ;-) metadata.xml
  md5 files   ;-) files/digest-m4-1.4.2-r1
  md5 files   ;-) files/m4-1.4.3-autotools.patch
  md5 files   ;-) files/digest-m4-1.4.1
  md5 files   ;-) files/digest-m4-1.4.3
  md5 files   ;-) files/m4-1.4.3-pointer.patch
  md5 src_uri ;-) m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2
  Unpacking source...
  Unpacking m4-1.4.3.tar.bz2 to
 /var/tmp/portage/m4-1.4.3/work
  * Applying m4-1.4.3-autotools.patch ...
 
 
  [ ok ]
  * Applying m4-1.4.3-pointer.patch ...  
 
 
  [ ok ]
  Source unpacked.
 ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --enable-nls
 --enable-changeword
 configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build
 type, don't use --host.
 If a cross compiler is detected then cross
 compile mode will be used.
 checking for gawk... gawk
 checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc...
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 checking for C compiler default output file name...
 configure: error: C compiler cannot create
 executables
 See `config.log' for more details.
 !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report:
 !!!
 /var/tmp/portage/m4-1.4.3/work/m4-1.4.3/config.log
 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 failed.
 !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0
 !!! econf failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build
 error, NOT this status message.
 
 




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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge woes

2005-08-19 Thread George Garvey
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:57:05PM -0400, Nick Smith wrote:
 checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C 
 compiler cannot create executables

   I remember seeing this recently from sandbox:

If configure fails with a 'cannot run C compiled programs' error, try this:
FEATURES=-sandbox emerge sandbox

   Good luck. Haven't had this problem, so don't know exactly what the
fix is. Just remember that warning from enotice.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Sean Johnson
I'm pretty stuck on Plextor drives. I've found them to all be very
reliable, and will tend to read damaged disks that other drives choke
on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Autoconfiguring default route

2005-08-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 04:24:34PM -0300, Jos?? Pablo Ezequiel Fern??ndez wrote:
 I still can figure out how to configure my default route with the new 
 configuration format (as stupid as that may sound).
 I have this:
 config_eth0=( 192.168.1.5/24 )
 which works and:
 route_eth0=default gw 192.168.1.101
 which doesn't work. I tried:
 route_eth0=(default via 192.168.1.101)

check your spelling. I suggest

routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.1.101 )
 ^
-|

hth

W
 and
 route_eth0=default via 192.168.1.101
 noting works. I get no error and no default route.
 Any ides how to get some output of what's going on or something like ? Or a 
 solution ?
 Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installer iso ?

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[gentoo-user] problem with X100P clone

2005-08-19 Thread Walter Willis
i am install asterisk in gentoo linux, 
#emerge zaptel
#emerge asterisk

#modprobe zaptel
#modprobe wcfxo
#asterisk -vvvc


localhost ~ # asterisk -vvvc
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf': Found
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/extconfig.conf': Found
Asterisk 1.0.8, Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Digium.
Written by Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/logger.conf': Found
Asterisk Event Logger Started /var/log/asterisk/event_log
  == Manager registered action Ping
  == Manager registered action Events
  == Manager registered action Logoff
  == Manager registered action Hangup
  == Manager registered action Status
  == Manager registered action Setvar
  == Manager registered action Getvar
  == Manager registered action Redirect
  == Manager registered action Originate
  == Manager registered action Command
  == Manager registered action ExtensionState
  == Manager registered action AbsoluteTimeout
  == Manager registered action MailboxStatus
  == Manager registered action MailboxCount
  == Manager registered action ListCommands
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/manager.conf': Found
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/rtp.conf': Found
  == RTP Allocating from port range 1 - 2
Asterisk PBX Core Initializing
Registering builtin applications:
 [AbsoluteTimeout]
  == Registered application 'AbsoluteTimeout'
 [Answer]
  == Registered application 'Answer'
 [BackGround]
  == Registered application 'BackGround'
 [Busy]
  == Registered application 'Busy'
 [Congestion]
  == Registered application 'Congestion'
 [DigitTimeout]
  == Registered application 'DigitTimeout'
 [Goto]
  == Registered application 'Goto'
 [GotoIf]
  == Registered application 'GotoIf'
 [GotoIfTime]
  == Registered application 'GotoIfTime'
 [Hangup]
  == Registered application 'Hangup'
 [NoOp]
  == Registered application 'NoOp'
 [Prefix]
  == Registered application 'Prefix'
 [Progress]
  == Registered application 'Progress'
 [ResetCDR]
  == Registered application 'ResetCDR'
 [ResponseTimeout]
  == Registered application 'ResponseTimeout'
 [Ringing]
  == Registered application 'Ringing'
 [SayNumber]
  == Registered application 'SayNumber'
 [SayDigits]
  == Registered application 'SayDigits'
 [SayAlpha]
  == Registered application 'SayAlpha'
 [SayPhonetic]
  == Registered application 'SayPhonetic'
 [SetAccount]
  == Registered application 'SetAccount'
 [SetAMAFlags]
  == Registered application 'SetAMAFlags'
 [SetGlobalVar]
  == Registered application 'SetGlobalVar'
 [SetLanguage]
  == Registered application 'SetLanguage'
 [SetVar]
  == Registered application 'SetVar'
 [StripMSD]
  == Registered application 'StripMSD'
 [Suffix]
  == Registered application 'Suffix'
 [Wait]
  == Registered application 'Wait'
 [WaitExten]
  == Registered application 'WaitExten'
Asterisk Dynamic Loader Starting:
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/modules.conf': Found
 [chan_modem.so] = (Generic Voice Modem Driver)
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/modem.conf': Found
  == Loading modem driver chan_modem_aopen.so = (A/Open (Rockwell
Chipset) ITU-2 VoiceModem Driver)
  == Registered channel type 'Modem' (Generic Voice Modem Channel Driver)
 [res_musiconhold.so] = (Music On Hold Resource)
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/musiconhold.conf': Found
  == Registered application 'MusicOnHold'
  == Registered application 'WaitMusicOnHold'
  == Registered application 'SetMusicOnHold'
 [res_adsi.so] = (ADSI Resource)
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/adsi.conf': Found
 [res_features.so] = (Call Parking Resource)
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/features.conf': Found
-- Registered extension context 'parkedcalls'
-- Added extension '700' priority 1 to parkedcalls
  == Registered application 'ParkedCall'
  == Registered application 'Park'
  == Manager registered action ParkedCalls
 [res_crypto.so] = (Cryptographic Digital Signatures)
-- Loaded PUBLIC key 'iaxtel'
-- Loaded PUBLIC key 'freeworlddialup'
 [res_indications.so] = (Indications Configuration)
  == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/indications.conf': Found
-- Registered indication country 'cl'
-- Registered indication country 'tw'
-- Registered indication country 'us'
-- Registered indication country 'au'
-- Registered indication country 'fr'
-- Registered indication country 'de'
-- Registered indication country 'nl'
-- Registered indication country 'uk'
-- Registered indication country 'fi'
-- Registered indication country 'no'
-- Registered indication country 'br'
-- Registered indication country 'za'
-- Registered indication country 'it'
-- Registered indication country 'us-o'
-- Registered indication country 'gr'
-- Registered indication country 'ru'
-- Registered indication country 'nz'
-- Registered indication country 'sg'
-- Registered indication country 'hu'
-- Registered indication country 'lt'
-- Registered indication country 'pl'
-- Registered indication country 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 8/19/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It's not my choice of words. Look at packages.gentoo.org and search
 ati-drivers.
 


Sorry. Didn't mean to imply you were making anything up.

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X100P clone

2005-08-19 Thread Kevin Hanson

Walter Willis wrote:

i am install asterisk in gentoo linux, 
#emerge zaptel

#emerge asterisk

#modprobe zaptel
#modprobe wcfxo
#asterisk -vvvc


localhost ~ # asterisk -vvvc
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf': Found
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/extconfig.conf': Found
Asterisk 1.0.8, Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Digium.
Written by Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/logger.conf': Found
Asterisk Event Logger Started /var/log/asterisk/event_log
 == Manager registered action Ping
 == Manager registered action Events
 == Manager registered action Logoff
 == Manager registered action Hangup
 == Manager registered action Status
 == Manager registered action Setvar
 == Manager registered action Getvar
 == Manager registered action Redirect
 == Manager registered action Originate
 == Manager registered action Command
 == Manager registered action ExtensionState
 == Manager registered action AbsoluteTimeout
 == Manager registered action MailboxStatus
 == Manager registered action MailboxCount
 == Manager registered action ListCommands
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/manager.conf': Found
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/rtp.conf': Found
 == RTP Allocating from port range 1 - 2
Asterisk PBX Core Initializing
Registering builtin applications:
[AbsoluteTimeout]
 == Registered application 'AbsoluteTimeout'
[Answer]
 == Registered application 'Answer'
[BackGround]
 == Registered application 'BackGround'
[Busy]
 == Registered application 'Busy'
[Congestion]
 == Registered application 'Congestion'
[DigitTimeout]
 == Registered application 'DigitTimeout'
[Goto]
 == Registered application 'Goto'
[GotoIf]
 == Registered application 'GotoIf'
[GotoIfTime]
 == Registered application 'GotoIfTime'
[Hangup]
 == Registered application 'Hangup'
[NoOp]
 == Registered application 'NoOp'
[Prefix]
 == Registered application 'Prefix'
[Progress]
 == Registered application 'Progress'
[ResetCDR]
 == Registered application 'ResetCDR'
[ResponseTimeout]
 == Registered application 'ResponseTimeout'
[Ringing]
 == Registered application 'Ringing'
[SayNumber]
 == Registered application 'SayNumber'
[SayDigits]
 == Registered application 'SayDigits'
[SayAlpha]
 == Registered application 'SayAlpha'
[SayPhonetic]
 == Registered application 'SayPhonetic'
[SetAccount]
 == Registered application 'SetAccount'
[SetAMAFlags]
 == Registered application 'SetAMAFlags'
[SetGlobalVar]
 == Registered application 'SetGlobalVar'
[SetLanguage]
 == Registered application 'SetLanguage'
[SetVar]
 == Registered application 'SetVar'
[StripMSD]
 == Registered application 'StripMSD'
[Suffix]
 == Registered application 'Suffix'
[Wait]
 == Registered application 'Wait'
[WaitExten]
 == Registered application 'WaitExten'
Asterisk Dynamic Loader Starting:
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/modules.conf': Found
[chan_modem.so] = (Generic Voice Modem Driver)
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/modem.conf': Found
 == Loading modem driver chan_modem_aopen.so = (A/Open (Rockwell
Chipset) ITU-2 VoiceModem Driver)
 == Registered channel type 'Modem' (Generic Voice Modem Channel Driver)
[res_musiconhold.so] = (Music On Hold Resource)
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/musiconhold.conf': Found
 == Registered application 'MusicOnHold'
 == Registered application 'WaitMusicOnHold'
 == Registered application 'SetMusicOnHold'
[res_adsi.so] = (ADSI Resource)
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/adsi.conf': Found
[res_features.so] = (Call Parking Resource)
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/features.conf': Found
   -- Registered extension context 'parkedcalls'
   -- Added extension '700' priority 1 to parkedcalls
 == Registered application 'ParkedCall'
 == Registered application 'Park'
 == Manager registered action ParkedCalls
[res_crypto.so] = (Cryptographic Digital Signatures)
   -- Loaded PUBLIC key 'iaxtel'
   -- Loaded PUBLIC key 'freeworlddialup'
[res_indications.so] = (Indications Configuration)
 == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/indications.conf': Found
   -- Registered indication country 'cl'
   -- Registered indication country 'tw'
   -- Registered indication country 'us'
   -- Registered indication country 'au'
   -- Registered indication country 'fr'
   -- Registered indication country 'de'
   -- Registered indication country 'nl'
   -- Registered indication country 'uk'
   -- Registered indication country 'fi'
   -- Registered indication country 'no'
   -- Registered indication country 'br'
   -- Registered indication country 'za'
   -- Registered indication country 'it'
   -- Registered indication country 'us-o'
   -- Registered indication country 'gr'
   -- Registered indication country 'ru'
   -- Registered indication country 'nz'
   -- Registered indication country 'sg'
   -- Registered indication country 'hu'
   -- Registered indication country 'lt'
   -- Registered indication country 'pl'
   -- Registered indication country 'pt'
   -- Registered indication country 'ee'
   -- Registered indication country 'mx'
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X100P clone

2005-08-19 Thread Walter Willis
yes 
include :
#rc-update add zaptel default
#rc-update add asterisk default

and after 
#rc-update del asterisk 

# reboot 
and reboot normality, charge modules etc, etc. 

login in gentoo linux and :
#/etc/init.d/asterisk start and 
#ps aux
USER   PID %CPU %MEMVSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  0.6  0.1   1460   500 ?S16:48   0:02 init [3]
root 2  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [migration/0]
root 3  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   16:48   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 4  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [events/0]
root 5  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [khelper]
root 6  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [kthread]
root 8  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root60  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [pdflush]
root61  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [pdflush]
root63  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [aio/0]
root65  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [xfslogd/0]
root66  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [xfsdatad/0]
root62  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [kswapd0]
root67  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [xfsbufd]
root   652  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [kseriod]
root  1074  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [khubd]
root  1500  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [khpsbpkt]
root  1731  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   16:48   0:00 [ata/0]
root  2839  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S16:48   0:00 [kjournald]
root  6565  0.1  0.1   1460   456 ?Ss  16:48   0:00 udevd
root  8305  0.0  0.2   1712   688 ?Ss   16:49   0:00
/usr/sbin/syslog-ng
root  8719  0.0  0.4   2208  1120 ?Ss   16:50   0:00
/bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
mysql 8793  0.0  2.0  37624  5272 ?S16:50   0:00
/usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --us
root  8825  0.0  0.5   3152  1440 ?Ss   16:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
mysql 8838  0.0  2.0  37624  5272 ?S16:50   0:00
/usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --us
mysql 8841  0.0  2.0  37624  5272 ?S16:50   0:00
/usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --us
mysql 8859  0.0  2.0  37624  5272 ?S16:50   0:00
/usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --us
root  8925  0.0  0.2   1500   608 tty1 Ss+  16:50   0:00
/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
root  8928  0.0  0.2   1496   604 tty2 Ss+  16:50   0:00
/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
root  8929  0.0  0.2   1500   608 tty3 Ss+  16:50   0:00
/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
root  8930  0.0  0.2   1496   604 tty4 Ss+  16:50   0:00
/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
root  8931  0.0  0.2   1496   608 tty5 Ss+  16:50   0:00
/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
root  8983  0.0  0.2   1496   608 tty6 Ss+  16:50   0:00
/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
root  9025  0.1  0.7   5976  1880 ?Rs   16:52   0:00 sshd:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0
root  9028  0.0  0.5   2212  1300 pts/0Ss   16:52   0:00 -bash
asterisk  9094  4.6  1.0   3920  2568 ?S16:53   0:04
mpg123 -q -s --mono -r 8000 -b 2048 -f 4096 fpm-calm-river.mp
root  9101  0.0  0.3   2440   832 pts/0R+   16:54   0:00 ps aux


but no work!!!

for asterisk is necesary sound card 

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[gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
I changed some options to the menuconfig (trying to get that splash to
work), and saved the changes to an alternate config file.
I'd like to make a kernel with _that_ config file and keep it separate from
my default 2.6-r12 kernel, since, when the splash causes the panic, I have
some way to get back in.

How do I compile a new kernel that I can add to the grub.conf with the
alternate config ?

Thanks for the input

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - the best version available

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

Holly Bostick wrote:


Mark Knecht schreef:
 


On 8/19/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


Mark Knecht schreef:

 


Hi,
 I wonder what the explanation in the emerge man page about the
--update option really means. What is meant by, and how does emerge
pick, the best version available?

- Mark

   


For those wondering, here's the quote:

--update (-u)
Updates packages to the best version available, which may
not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and
development.   This will also update direct dependencies which may not
be what you want.  In general, use this option only in combination with
the world or system target.

I accept that this is somewhat unclear, but to explain it fully would
take more space than a man page really is for.

 


SNIP

   


media-video/ati-drivers
   Available versions:  8.8.25-r3 8.10.19 8.12.10 [M]8.13.3 [M]8.13.4
8.14.13 8.14.13-r1 8.14.13-r2 [M]8.14.13-r3 *8.16.20
   Installed:   8.14.13-r2
   Homepage:http://www.ati.com
   Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r350, r300, r250
and r200 chipsets

Now in this case, the 'best' version is the most recent stable. The
second most recent version (8.14.13-r3) is hard masked, but if I
unmasked it with /etc/portage/package.unmask (and possibly also
/etc/portage/package.keywords), then Portage would consider it the
'best', insofar as it would attempt to install it if I upgraded the
drivers. Of course, the very fact that you have to manually unmask the
packages should give you pause as to whether you really want to consider
this the 'best' for you.

The very most recent version (8.16.20) is 'not available' -- meaning
that it will never be considered the 'best' version until it returns to
Portage; masking or unmasking is of no use here. I know, because I had
unmasked and installed the latest drivers, which did not work well, to
put it mildly, and today I synced and Portage downgraded them. I would
have downgraded them manually anyway, but it  was interesting to see
Portage downgrade them by force despite the fact that they were still
unmasked.  They have so many problems that they are no longer on the
Portage radar until the issues are determined to at least an extent that
someone knows what to fix, and who has to fix it (Gentoo, the kernel
guys if it's a kernel conflict, ATI).

 


Hi Holly,
  Yes, the explanation you give is pretty much what I already knew,
with the exception of the ati-drivers example. If this thread is worth
continuing then it's probably around that sort of situation.

  So far:

MASKED == not available unless we unmask a package by hand.

for stable - highest available stable version would be chosen
for ~arch - highest version available, whether stable or ~arch, would be chosen

However, in your ati-drivers example you use the term 'not available'
for the 8.16.20 version. That's an interesting choice of words since
any version 'not available' would (in my mind) never be chosen by
--update. It's not part of 'best' because it's not available, or so it
seems to me. 
   



It's not my choice of words. Look at packages.gentoo.org and search
ati-drivers.

8.16.20 is - for x86, which in the legend is listed as 'not available'.
However, this is a status change from yesterday, when it was hard masked
(actually hard masked so I had to unmask it in package.unmask). Today
the package is no longer available, so when I went to update the package
again (after a sync), the package was downgraded, despite still being
unmasked. Atm I still have the ebuild, but I imagine if I synced again,
it would be removed. The reason I mention it is that if 'best' means
'the most recent' (which is really the only way to quantify such a
subjective quality as 'best' for an automated system like Portage), the
'best' version has been known to be removed from Portage completely.
Consider the case of unace, for example. The version available in
Portage is quite old, and won't open newer *.ace files due to its age,
but the 'best' version (i.e., the most current) is not available in
Portage at all (unstable or masked; it's just 'not available', because
of serious security bugs.

 

I don't believe the ebuild will be removed at any stage from portage for 
8.16.20. I'd say this is so people (more the developers with more skills 
than I) can have a crack at fixing the problems encountered with the 
ebuild. What they have done is remove all architectures from the ebuild 
so that it won't be installed without user intervention (exactly like 
gcc4 versions)


KEYWORDS=-* #~amd64 ~x86 (The #~amd64 ~x86 part is not included as 
the brackets are already closed)


The package is not available on any architectures (therefore no longer 
masked) The way to make it available (not that I'd recommend it) is to 
put the following in /etc/portage/package.keywords


media-video/ati-drivers -*

By doing that (and only that) has the new version become available to 

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive activity indicator light

2005-08-19 Thread Matt Randolph

John -

I have a similar story to yours but it probably has nothing to do with 
your situation.  I will tell it anyway just in case it helps anyone.


Once upon a time, I had Windows on my computer.  All of the LEDs worked 
perfectly.


One day I upgraded my BIOS (in Windows) and rebooted into Linux.  I 
happily used my computer for some time until one day I noticed that none 
of my LEDs were working.  The reset button had stopped working too.


At first I thought I had a short or a faulty ground at the LEDs.  What 
else could possibly explain why they all stopped working at once?  In 
the course of trying to troubleshoot the problem, I reversed the pins of 
the LEDs and switch.  When I turned it back on, everything was working 
again.  The only thing I can think of that it could have been is the 
BIOS flash.  I don't remember if the LEDs worked in Windows after the 
BIOS flash but before reversing the pins.  Actually, I don't know if 
they work in Windows after reversing the pins either.  I find it hard to 
imagine how my problem could have been OS specific.


The moral of the story is that your motherboard manufacturer can (and 
mine did) reverse the polarity of the pins in BIOS between versions.  In 
my case they did this to all of the LEDs at once.  It might be possible, 
though I think it's quite unlikely, that it could happen to only one LED 
too.  It is easier for me to imagine this happening if the LED in 
question is the only one that uses a two pin-wide connector yet the MOBO 
provides three pins for it.


Since SATA support in Linux is still pretty green, I'm guessing that 
Mark and Wade are right and that your SATA chipset isn't perfectly 
supported yet.  However, if you flashed your BIOS at about the same time 
you punted Windows, that could be a clue.  Even if you didn't flash 
recently, if your HDD LED stays dark even when your IDE CDROM is active, 
you might try reversing the pins.


- Matt


Wade Brown wrote:


You might want to check a few other options available to you.  Often
times, hard drives have a specific 2-pin LED connector on the drive
itself.  This is typically used for having one LED per drive instead
one LED per bus, and most commonly found in RAID solutions.  Being a
SATA drive, it's likely your drive has this connecter as well, and it
would be worth looking in your product specifications for.  Granted,
this solution means you only receive a blinking LED for the SATA drive
(all other devices are SOL), but it's at least one more option to
consider.

As a side note to Mark's comment, I'm not sure it's standard
specification.  I have a Biostar iDeq 220T, with on board SATA RAID,
and the access LED lights up fine for me in Gentoo with no cajoling to
speak of.  It seems more chipset specific than a standard
specification.

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On 8/19/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


John,
  None of my Linux boxes with SATA drives (3 machines) show drive
activity via the LED. It seems to be some limitation of the Linux
drivers.

  The SATA bus is a different hardware interface from the EIDE
interface. My suspicion has been that the LED is hard wired into the
EIDE controller and probably has to be driven by extra commands
(somehow...) when using the SATA interface. Keep in mind that the EIDE
controller is in your chipset and the Silicon Image SATA controller is
a completely separate chip so what it's doing may or may not be
visible to the hardware that drives the LED.

  Anyway, a bit long winded but you are not alone. ;-)

Cheers,
Mark

On 8/19/05, John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


Good morning,

Something that's been bothering me, although not that much, for about 3
years now. I've never investigated, and perhaps the answer is simple,
but every distro I've used (RH9, FC1, FC2, Suse 9.1, and now Gentoo),
has not shown the tiny blinking drive activity indicator on the front of
my tower. This machine has always, until a few weeks ago when I finally
dumped it for good, dual-booted with XP. And XP always showed activity
via the light when there was activity. I would have thought that this
was actually a hardware signal, and not OS related. But it doesn't
appear that way. This is with a WD 36GB SATA drive on a ASUS A7N8X
deluxe mobo w/ onboard Silicon Image controller.

Any, and all, help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
John

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[gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my
own make.conf file?

Thanks, as always, for the input.

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[gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.  However,
if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
(2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?

Thanks, as always, for any input.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Edward A Mihalow Jr

Mark wrote:

I have a TDK indi DVD. It works perfectly. I would also add that I
have excellent results with LG products as others have mentioned.

I have had a TDK and now a SONY dual-layer. Both work excellent. Sony on 
newegg.com

for 89.00.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

John Dangler wrote:


looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] =net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)

.

.

.

[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb

[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb



After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.



John D






 

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.


Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.
3
John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] =net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)

.

.

.

[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb

[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb

 

After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.

 

John D

 

 


  

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.

Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

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Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

I changed some options to the menuconfig (trying to get that splash to
work), and saved the changes to an alternate config file.
I'd like to make a kernel with _that_ config file and keep it separate from
my default 2.6-r12 kernel, since, when the splash causes the panic, I have
some way to get back in.

How do I compile a new kernel that I can add to the grub.conf with the
alternate config ?


The kernel config file used for compiling the kernel is called .config
So, to compile a kernel with that config file, just replace the .config 
with your alternate file, saving the old .config of course if you want 
to keep it:

mv .config my-old-config
mv my-new-config .config
(do this in the kernel source dir)
 You might have to call 'make clean' before you compile your new 
kernel, i'm not 100% sure on that -- it won't harm though.
You can add as many kernels to your grub config as you like -- you might 
want to check with the install guide how to do that exactly:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=10

Basically, your second kernel gets the same kind of entry just as your 
first, but you will want to change the title and of course the kernel 
(the root line should be the same as in the first block). Move your 
kernel under the name you specified to the same location where your 
other kernel is, using the name you specified in the config. (you will 
probably have to mount your /boot partition to do all this naturally)


I.e. add an extra block something like this to your grub.conf:

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r11
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

John Dangler wrote:


I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my
own make.conf file?

Thanks, as always, for the input.

John D




 

I believe it takes the default USE flags from 
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/make.defaults (since I am on a x86)


The way the system works is that it applies those default USE flags 
unless you say otherwise. The way to alter the default USE flags for 
your system is to edit your /etc/make.conf and make 
additions/subtractions from the USE flags. Basically this is a way to 
customise your system to the way you want it.


This site shows them all and a brief description

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

The best way to see what USE flags are currently set is
# emerge info
as this takes into account the defaults and all the changes you have 
made through /etc/make.conf


For instance in the default USE flags has

USE=alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups eds(many more)

If you don't have a printer on your system, there is little point in 
having cups as a USE flag (it will add unnecessary time to compile your 
packages). So in your /etc/make.conf file you can put


USE=-cups

Same thing if you don't want to use kde, and say you want to have 
mozilla support on your system as well you would end up with.


USE=-cups -kde mozilla

Then if you run
# emerge info
again it will have removed cups and kde from the USE flags and added 
mozilla to the list as well.


Hope that helps
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my
own make.conf file?


The relevant part in the docs:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2

A list of all USE flags:
http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

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[gentoo-user] Re: xbindkeys and kde-3.3.2

2005-08-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Oscar Carlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why are you using some external program when there is a superb support for 
 keybindnings in kwin?
 Everything you need for keybindings is avalible in kcontrol :)


It is a superior setup.  It can be hand edited in minutes.  Mass
entries of 20 to 30 keycombos can be setup in a matter of a minute or
two.   No wasted clickity clack baloney.   And it is dead simple.

Further it is portable to any of the more common linux desktops.

All and all it would be a hard one to beat.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.  However,
if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
(2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?


The packages in your system come from
/etc/make.profile/packages
(Note: do *not* edit this file)

The packages considered for world are the ones from system plus the ones 
in /var/lib/portage/world
The world file is where portage records the packages you emerged, e.g. 
when you typed emerge gentoo-sources it recorded it there.


I suppose the reason the kernel is not in the system file is that this 
file is a kind of 'factory-defaults', which you shouldn't be normally 
changing. But there is more than just one kernel source tarball avilable 
in portage, e.g. gentoo-sources, vanilla-sources and some more. Putting 
this in the system file would unnecessarily constrain your choice as to 
which kernel to run.


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[gentoo-user] Finer grained date output.

2005-08-19 Thread Harry Putnam
This question is not gentoo specific but really a more general
question about date manipulation.

Like many people I use the `date' command to set file names that need to
be unique by using one of the specially formatted commands, to output
something like:

img_080905_103343.jpg

Which is img_$(date +%m%d%y_%H%M%S).jpg  or mnthdayyr_hrminsec

This is used in file renaming scripts or the like.

I want to find some tool that outputs a more fine grained reading.
Maybe adding milliseconds to output so that the unique names can be
generated in less than a second.

I know about perl scipting for this but wanted something like the
`date' command that is its own dedicated program.

Is there a unix tool that outputs a finer grain of time segments?

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

you might also want to try
man emerge

most commands on your system will have a manpage, and they will probably 
 give you helpful hints as to how they function. you can also do it 
with any other command:


man ls
man gcc
man ldd
man man
...

Hope that helps,
Marco

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
That makes some sense. (Gentoo is all about choices)
So, basically, I emerge the new 'slot' and then re-compile the new kernel
version according to the handbook, giving me both the existing kernel
version and the new version...

John D


-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:
 I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
 run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
 that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.
However,
 if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
 (2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?

The packages in your system come from
/etc/make.profile/packages
(Note: do *not* edit this file)

The packages considered for world are the ones from system plus the ones 
in /var/lib/portage/world
The world file is where portage records the packages you emerged, e.g. 
when you typed emerge gentoo-sources it recorded it there.

I suppose the reason the kernel is not in the system file is that this 
file is a kind of 'factory-defaults', which you shouldn't be normally 
changing. But there is more than just one kernel source tarball avilable 
in portage, e.g. gentoo-sources, vanilla-sources and some more. Putting 
this in the system file would unnecessarily constrain your choice as to 
which kernel to run.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained date output.

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

Harry Putnam wrote:

I know about perl scipting for this but wanted something like the
`date' command that is its own dedicated program.

Is there a unix tool that outputs a finer grain of time segments?


man date
look for nanosecond format, e.g.:
date +%N

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RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming.  And many of them, I
wouldn't really know if I need them or not.  So far, since I only have the
base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a
graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE=-X with the system level apps
(although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like
cdrtools/dvdrtools).

I did find the defaults (thanks!) and have added those as comments in my
make.conf file just for my own reference.

I figure that the next step (aside from the reading of the online docs) is
to get cd tools and anti-virus (clam looks good) running.

At the point that I think I have everything at this level, I intend to back
it up (jic), and then install X, sound, and get a graphical environment
running - at least that looks to be the most logical next steps...

I really appreciate the feedback!!!

John D

-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:51 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

John Dangler wrote:
 I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
 trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
 settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
 what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
 default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
 between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to
my
 own make.conf file?

The relevant part in the docs:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2

A list of all USE flags:
http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

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RE: [gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
Does the moving of the config files have any effect on the already compiled
kernel? (I was under the impression that a .config _went with_ a specific
build) or is that a throwback to too much time in a m$ environment?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:46 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

John Dangler wrote:
 I changed some options to the menuconfig (trying to get that splash to
 work), and saved the changes to an alternate config file.
 I'd like to make a kernel with _that_ config file and keep it separate
from
 my default 2.6-r12 kernel, since, when the splash causes the panic, I have
 some way to get back in.
 
 How do I compile a new kernel that I can add to the grub.conf with the
 alternate config ?

The kernel config file used for compiling the kernel is called .config
So, to compile a kernel with that config file, just replace the .config 
with your alternate file, saving the old .config of course if you want 
to keep it:
mv .config my-old-config
mv my-new-config .config
(do this in the kernel source dir)
  You might have to call 'make clean' before you compile your new 
kernel, i'm not 100% sure on that -- it won't harm though.
You can add as many kernels to your grub config as you like -- you might 
want to check with the install guide how to do that exactly:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=10

Basically, your second kernel gets the same kind of entry just as your 
first, but you will want to change the title and of course the kernel 
(the root line should be the same as in the first block). Move your 
kernel under the name you specified to the same location where your 
other kernel is, using the name you specified in the config. (you will 
probably have to mount your /boot partition to do all this naturally)

I.e. add an extra block something like this to your grub.conf:

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r11
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11

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[gentoo-user] OT - vsftp revisited

2005-08-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
I have a user who can't upload files to his account on my server.  He
can connect and log in, he can see the files and directories in his home
directory, but he can't interact with them.  I can log into my personal
account via the external IP of my router and interact with my personal
account just fine, so I'm not sure why he can't use his.  Here's the
information I've been able to gather:

He is using FireFTP as his client on Windows XP.

He can log into the FTP server, his home directory loads, but he can't
move from his home directory to any of the subdirectories under his home
directory.

Here is the log output from his most recent attempt, taken
from /var/log/vsftpd.log:

Fri Aug 19 21:10:08 2005 [pid 23592] CONNECT: Client 68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:10:09 2005 [pid 23591] [acsacsx] OK LOGIN: Client
68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:10:51 2005 [pid 23595] CONNECT: Client 68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:10:51 2005 [pid 23594] [acsacsx] OK LOGIN: Client
68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:11:32 2005 [pid 23609] CONNECT: Client 68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:11:32 2005 [pid 23608] [acsacsx] OK LOGIN: Client
68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:12:12 2005 [pid 23614] CONNECT: Client 68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:12:12 2005 [pid 23613] [acsacsx] OK LOGIN: Client
68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:12:53 2005 [pid 23617] CONNECT: Client 68.226.26.135
Fri Aug 19 21:12:53 2005 [pid 23616] [acsacsx] OK LOGIN: Client
68.226.26.135


I have no idea even how to start solving this problem.  I don't have
access to a computer outside my network with Internet access, so I've
only been able to try connecting to the same address he does, except
from inside the network.  Can anyone help me out here?
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread John Jolet
The way dependencies seem to work with portage, I wouldn't bother installing 
x.  Just install say kde or gnome or whatever (see the docs) and X will be 
installed and configured automagically.  for instance, I installed this dell 
laptop, then emerged kde-meta (be patient if you try that...my poor celeron 
took 16 hours to do that) and followed the documentation for kde on the 
gentoo site and it's all happy...except sound works in xmms, but not kde 
sytem notificationsnot sure why, but it's at the BOTTOM of my list.

On Friday 19 August 2005 21:19, John Dangler wrote:
 The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming.  And many of them, I
 wouldn't really know if I need them or not.  So far, since I only have the
 base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a
 graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE=-X with the system level apps
 (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like
 cdrtools/dvdrtools).

 I did find the defaults (thanks!) and have added those as comments in my
 make.conf file just for my own reference.

 I figure that the next step (aside from the reading of the online docs) is
 to get cd tools and anti-virus (clam looks good) running.

 At the point that I think I have everything at this level, I intend to back
 it up (jic), and then install X, sound, and get a graphical environment
 running - at least that looks to be the most logical next steps...

 I really appreciate the feedback!!!

 John D

 -Original Message-
 From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:51 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

 John Dangler wrote:
  I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop. 
  I'm trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of
  'default' settings (I think) under
  /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From what I've read in the
  gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of default USE= flags. 
  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference between what's there and
  the 'total' list, and why would I add others to

 my

  own make.conf file?

 The relevant part in the docs:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2

 A list of all USE flags:
 http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

That makes some sense. (Gentoo is all about choices)
So, basically, I emerge the new 'slot' and then re-compile the new kernel
version according to the handbook, giving me both the existing kernel
version and the new version...
Exactly, installing the new kernel sources does not automatically clean 
out the old ones. After you've compiled the new kernel and copied it to 
/boot, you can then add another entry to grub.conf so you can choose 
between the two kernels when booting.


Hint:
If you're happy with your old kernel config, copy it over from your old 
kernel dir (or from /boot if you've saved it there) to your new kernel 
directory. you can then run 'make oldconfig' which will only prompt you 
for new configuration options that have been added between the releases 
so you don't have to select everything again by hand.


One further note about cleaning out old kernels: running make 
modules_install  will install the kernel modules to a subdirectory in 
/lib/modules/. Once you're not *using* an old kernel anymore, you can 
remove the subdirectory specific to that kernel from there.
emerge -C =some-kernel-version will only remove the kernel sources 
from /usr/src


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RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
Would 

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-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:31 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.

John D

Would the solution be to unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0, then emerge -uDv world, then
emerge ipw2100 ?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] =net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)
.
.
.
[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb
[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb

After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.

 

John D

 

 


  

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.

Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

Peter


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming.  And many of them, I
wouldn't really know if I need them or not.  So far, since I only have the
base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a
graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE=-X with the system level apps
(although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like
cdrtools/dvdrtools).


just add the ones you need -- you're not missing out on anything :)
you can always add them later on when you need them


I really appreciate the feedback!!!

no problem

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[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained date output.

2005-08-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Marco Matthies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 I know about perl scipting for this but wanted something like the
 `date' command that is its own dedicated program.
 Is there a unix tool that outputs a finer grain of time segments?

 man date
 look for nanosecond format, e.g.:
 date +%N

Ha  .. Thanks.. has that been there a long time?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Matt Randolph

Sean Johnson wrote:


I'm pretty stuck on Plextor drives. I've found them to all be very
reliable, and will tend to read damaged disks that other drives choke
on.

Just my 2c.

 



I could have bought another brand for less, but my Plextor has yet to 
meet a brand of disc that it couldn't burn.  I haven't had any bad burns 
yet either.


One thing you might do is check http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters to 
read up on whichever models you are thinking about buying.  This site 
lists reviews and blank media compatibility reports for nearly every 
drive under the sun.  Check to see how picky the drives you like are and 
read the reviews.  If you find one that will burn perfectly on every 
type of media that has been tried in it, that's a major plus.  Many 
drives have trouble writing to inexpensive discs.


When you find a promising drive or two, look to see if any of the 
reportedly compatible media can be bought at your local shop.  Better 
yet, look for some you can buy in bulk on the cheap through a shopping 
engine (I like pricewatch.com).


Be sure to verify that the media you intend to use will play in your 
set-top DVD player too.  Find your DVD player at 
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers and look at the player's media 
compatibility reports to do this.  The compatibility lists for the 
players aren't always as complete as they are for the 
burners--especially for older players--but it is better to have looked 
than not to have.


It's a lot of leg-work, but it beats buying a drive that will only burn 
expensive media, or that won't burn any of the brands of discs that work 
in your set-top box.  When you find a drive/cheap-media/player 
combination that works, you can save a lot of money by buying the discs 
in bulk, even if you have to pay a premium for a more capable burner.


When you find a good deal on a DVD burner, and that burner will record a 
wide variety of brands of discs, and among those varieties of discs are 
some that you can get cheap, and those cheap discs will play in your 
set-top DVD player...  well, then start digging out your credit card 
already!  What more do you want?!


Just my 13 cents.

P.S.: Seemingly identical blank discs can be made by different 
manufacturers even if they are the same brand/speed/model-number.  Don't 
buy bulk media unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure that it is going to work 
for you.  You might ask the vendor if they will sell you a sample disc 
to test first.  Who knows?  It could happen.


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Re: [gentoo-user] multiple kernel configs

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

Does the moving of the config files have any effect on the already compiled
kernel? (I was under the impression that a .config _went with_ a specific
build) or is that a throwback to too much time in a m$ environment?


the .config file determines how and especially which parts of the kernel 
are built by the kernel build environment -- the .config has no effect 
after the kernel has been built.
a windows kernel will probably be built similarly, though who knows what 
happens in the kernel caverns of redmond... :)


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[RESOLVED] RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
And how I hate to miss out on anything! :)

Thanks, again Marco.

John D

-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

John Dangler wrote:
 The list of possible flags is somewhat overwhelming.  And many of them, I
 wouldn't really know if I need them or not.  So far, since I only have the
 base system running, I'm trying to get everything I want to have sans a
 graphic environment going, so I'm doing USE=-X with the system level
apps
 (although I don't know if that's the best plan for something like
 cdrtools/dvdrtools).

just add the ones you need -- you're not missing out on anything :)
you can always add them later on when you need them

 I really appreciate the feedback!!!
no problem

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[gentoo-user] timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl

2005-08-19 Thread yance kowara

Hi all,

I am trying to install gentoo stage 3 using kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r6, 
following the documentation.


after #umount /mnt/gentoo ... (Chapter 10.d. Rebooting the system)
#reboot

The following messages are displayed:
shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl

Any pointer on how to tackle this prob?

Thanks heaps for any pointers.

Regards,

Yance
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[gentoo-user] wireless update [was update with B]

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
running emerge -uDvp world, I got a block between ipw2100 and ieee-80211.
I ran emerge -C ipw2100, and the block cleared, although ieee80211 was no
longer in the update list either.
Since it was recommended to have both of these on the system in order for
the wireless to work correctly,
is that a bug or do I really not need both of these on the system?
the install is 2005.1 2.6.12-r6 on a dell i8600
Thanks as always for any input.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

John Dangler wrote:

Would 


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An interesting conundrum indeed.

You can't install (due to it being blocked) ieee80211-1.0.3 with 
ipw2100-1.1.0 merged


And from the error message you posted it looks like you can't merge 
ipw2100 (1.1.0) without having the ieee80211 package installed.


So an unmerge of the old version and emerge of the newer version (which 
isn't ideal) was the only way to upgrade ipw2100, which has worked




-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:31 PM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

 


That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.

John D
 



Would the solution be to unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0, then emerge -uDv world, then
emerge ipw2100 ?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

 


looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] =net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)
.
.
.
[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb
[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb

After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.



John D








   

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.


Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

Peter


 



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[gentoo-user] Problem with portage overlay

2005-08-19 Thread Ian K
Hi there,
When I run the ebuild command with the digest
parameter,
I get an error. Please be assured that the path is
correctly pointing to a downloaded ebuild.

Avalon media-video # pwd
/usr/local/portageOverlay/media-video

Avalon media-video # ebuild
/usr/local/portageOverlay/media-video/f4l-0.2.ebuild
digest
!!! aux_get(): ebuild path for
'portageOverlay/f4l-0.2' not specified:
!!!None
!!! aux_get(): ebuild path for
'portageOverlay/f4l-0.2' not specified:
!!!None
doebuild(): aux_get() error reading
portageOverlay/f4l-0.2; aborting.

Avalon media-video #  

Any ideas?
Thanks!
Ian

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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless update [was update with B]

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

John Dangler wrote:


running emerge -uDvp world, I got a block between ipw2100 and ieee-80211.
I ran emerge -C ipw2100, and the block cleared, although ieee80211 was no
longer in the update list either.
Since it was recommended to have both of these on the system in order for
the wireless to work correctly,
is that a bug or do I really not need both of these on the system?
the install is 2005.1 2.6.12-r6 on a dell i8600
Thanks as always for any input.

John D




 

By doing emerge -C ipw2100 you have removed the ipw2100 package (so you 
no longer have it on your system). This also removes ipw2100 from 
/var/lib/portage/world
Now when you run emerge -uDvp world it no longer includes ipw2100 (and 
dependencies of ipw2100, which ieee80211 is) in the list. If you want to 
use ipw2100 you will have to emerge it again (which will emerge 
ieee80211 as well).


Do an emerge -p ipw2100 (having unmerged it already, it shouldn't have 
the block on ieee80211). Then if all looks good emerge ipw2100 and 
hopefully you don't get any errors on compilation



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with portage overlay

2005-08-19 Thread Zac Medico

Ian K wrote:

Hi there,
When I run the ebuild command with the digest
parameter,
I get an error. Please be assured that the path is
correctly pointing to a downloaded ebuild.

Avalon media-video # pwd
/usr/local/portageOverlay/media-video

Avalon media-video # ebuild
/usr/local/portageOverlay/media-video/f4l-0.2.ebuild


/usr/local/portageOverlay/media-video/f4l/f4l-0.2.ebuild
  ^
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags

2005-08-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:46:21PM -0400, John Dangler wrote
 I have just installed a basic 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6) on my laptop.  I'm
 trying to get my arms around the USE flags.  I found a set of 'default'
 settings (I think) under /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults .  From
 what I've read in the gentoo documentation, this seems to be a list of
 default USE= flags.  What I'd like to try and get to is, a difference
 between what's there and the 'total' list, and why would I add others to my
 own make.conf file?

  The default settings for X86 machines using 2005.1 is the sum of base,
default-linux, default-linux/x86 and default-linux/x86/2005.1.  It's the
developers' attempt to be all things to all people.  However, one size
does not fit all.  For instance default-linux/x86/make.defaults contains
the statement...

USE=alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups eds emboss encode fortran
foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 jpeg kde
libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis opengl
oss pam pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline sdl spell ssl tcpd
truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv zlib

  While the KDE and GNOME people make some great *APPLICATIONS* (e.g.
Koffice, Gnumeric, AbiWord, etc) their desktop environments are fat,
bloated, resource-hogging, eye-candy that accomplish nothing other than
to make a P4 emulate a PII with half the RAM.  I don't want the gnome
or kde flags.  That means dumping the arts flag, because ARTS
depends on KDE and building ARTS will result in building KDE.  Why is
oss in there as a flag, given that OSS is deprecated?

  PAM is a good idea for somebody running a server with multiple
external users accessing it.  IMHO, PAM belongs in the optional security
packages, with hardened linux, and NSA SELinux.  For the average home
desktop, PAM is a PITA.

  The 90%+ of the online world that doesn't use IPV6 can do without the
ipv6 flag, thank you.  When the ipv6 flag was introduced, a lot of
people noticed their internet apps would sit there for 90 seconds, time
out IPV6, and then try IPV4 addresses... oops.  To block that, put
-ipv6 in your USE.

  My approach is to use -* which zaps all flags, then specify the ones
*I* want/need.  If a particular package wants/needs a specific flag, hey
that's what /etc/portage/package.use is for.  If enough packages need a
specific flag, I'll think about adding it to my USE variable.  Here's
what I have...

USE=-* a52 aac alsa apm audiofile dio encode exif ffmpeg flac foomatic fortran 
gb gif gstreamer gtk2 ieee1394 jpeg maildir mikmod mmap mmx mng ncurses 
offensive ogg opengl plotutil png posix quicktime sdl slang sse sse2 theora 
threads tiff truetype vorbis win32codecs wmf xv 

  Your specific needs will differ, depending on what *YOU* run on your
machine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD recorder recommendations

2005-08-19 Thread Ted Ozolins
Edward A Mihalow Jr wrote:

 Mark wrote:

 I have a TDK indi DVD. It works perfectly. I would also add that I
 have excellent results with LG products as others have mentioned.

 I have had a TDK and now a SONY dual-layer. Both work excellent. Sony
 on newegg.com
 for 89.00.


I'm running a Sony dual layer here ($89.00Ca at futureshop.ca) works
just fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 03:31:14AM +1200, Peter O'Connor wrote:
 An interesting conundrum indeed.
 
 You can't install (due to it being blocked) ieee80211-1.0.3 with 
 ipw2100-1.1.0 merged
 
 And from the error message you posted it looks like you can't merge 
 ipw2100 (1.1.0) without having the ieee80211 package installed.
 
 So an unmerge of the old version and emerge of the newer version (which 
 isn't ideal) was the only way to upgrade ipw2100, which has worked

Now that much of a conundrum. If I remember correctly, earlier
versions of ipw2100/2200 provided the functionalities of ieee80211.
The two split in mid July for better packaging (and allowing other
drivers to use the ieee80211 functions). Seeing that these are kernel
modules, ieee80211 package will provide conflicting symbol names with
the (old) ipw2100 package, and that is bad. 

The block prevents the conflict from happening accidentally.

This type of block you will see a lot in gentoo land, especially when
packages are split up or certain functionalities of packages are
extracted (for example, when mailbase and ftpbase were introduced last
year). In general, the solution to blocks due to your current version
being not new enough, is to 
  1. unmerge current version
  2. remerge new version. 
The package being blocked will most likely be included in the emerge
as a dependency.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained date output.

2005-08-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 04:17:27AM +0200, Marco Matthies wrote:
 Harry Putnam wrote:
 I know about perl scipting for this but wanted something like the
 `date' command that is its own dedicated program.
 
 Is there a unix tool that outputs a finer grain of time segments?
 
 man date
 look for nanosecond format, e.g.:
 date +%N

The nanosecond option has always puzzled me, if only because on my box
I never get any finer grained output than microseconds... i.e. date
+%N always gives 0 as the last three digits. 

Now technically this computer runs at 2 GHz... so presumably it is
possible to hit the enter key not exactly on the microsecond. Is
there something in the kernel? or the clock?

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