Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 logs not rotating, is that metalog's job or logrotate?
Hello, On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 05:25:54PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: I notice my /var/log/apache2 dir has some very large files, hence I don't think they are being rotated. I looked at /etc/metalog/metalog.conf and don't see anything related to apache in there -- should there be? Or am I supposed to install app-admin/logrotate to handle this? you have to install the logrotate package. afert installing the package there must be a file under /etc/logrotate.d/apache2, there is configuried how the apache logs are rotated. it also should install cronjobs on your system so don't forget to start your crond :-) greetz alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What /devTTY? is the modem normally under?
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:14:20 +1000, Richard Watson wrote: Hi again. I installed slmodem but it's looking for /dev/ttySL0. Presumably I need to create this manually. Can anyone tell me what command I should use to create this. It's been a while since I used slmodem, but I'm fairly sure the init script set this up. Have you added slmodem to your default runlevel? -- Neil Bothwick Favorite Windoze game: Guess what this icon does? pgpFh3np3SsFR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:58:12 +, Glenn Enright wrote: I second esync. It is a nice script that runs a little faster than 'emerge sync'. It calls emerge sync, so how can it run faster? # This script imports the current esearch index, # calls `emerge sync` and `eupdatedb` and then # shows the packages which were updated or added # during the sync. #... syncprogram = /usr/bin/emerge sync -- Neil Bothwick What colour is a chameleon on a mirror? pgpzslm6JV6Dk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 23:44, Holly Bostick wrote: Tony Davison schreef: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 20:33, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. much snippage This is a gigantic leap from the previous versions I've used, and I think I've just switched WMs. Obviously there's been a huge shakeup somewhere, but the site doesn't say anything about it, that I saw. Does anybody happen to follow development of this and know what happened? I'm just stunned (in a good way). OK I'll bite but does anyone know how to get KDE to play nicely with it. I've b*d about with the ksmserver bit of startkde until I thoroughly broke it but when it aint broke it resolutely refuses to have anything to do with any wm apart fron kwin or KDEWM. Stumped, on my last cig and this wheelchair has no lights. Sorry-- that's one of the reasons I use GDM (even under KDE, but I use KDE very very rarely). What I would think is that you'd want to copy the fvwm-crystal.desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions to /usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/kdm/sessions so that it appears as a choice in KDM. Why you'd expect the *startkde* script to start anything other than KDE rather eludes me, I must admit. :) Its OK I got it working impressive it is. With the last gasp of my grey cells last night I emerged GDM (I only had XDM on this system) and lo there it was. As for startkde, I was guilty of reading the FVWM FAQ :-) -- Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:58:12 +, Glenn Enright wrote: I second esync. It is a nice script that runs a little faster than 'emerge sync'. It calls emerge sync, so how can it run faster? # This script imports the current esearch index, # calls `emerge sync` and `eupdatedb` and then # shows the packages which were updated or added # during the sync. #... syncprogram = /usr/bin/emerge sync Umm... i didn't realize that! :p Until now I hadn't actually looked at the esync script. I guess while I was trying it out, subjectively it seemed to do its thing faster. Perhaps that was down to the fact it calls emerge with the verbose option off, which provides less overhead in the terminal. But obviously that is easy enough to do from the command line as well. Still I get the functionality of esearch in the bargain so it suits me. -- To IBM, 'open' means there is a modicum of interoperability among some of their equipment. -- Harv Masterson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
oki I am still stuck at installing gnome..taking forever to compile :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
I emerged the mirrorselect pakage and set the mirror to asia but any emerge operation still goes to distfiles.gentoo.org do I need to do anything more to fix the new settings? Thanks, Vikram On 9/29/05, vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oki I am still stuck at installing gnome..taking forever to compile :-(
[gentoo-user] Tomcat5 + Apache2: Deploying
Hallo, nachdem ich nun Apache2 + Tomcat5 mittels mod_jk eingermassen ans laufen bekommen habe, stellt sich mir nur noch ein Problem dar: Wie kann ich WAR-Archive die ich über die Web-Schnittstelle deployed habe, direkt über den Apache verfügbar machen? Momentan hab ich Tomcat+mod_jk frisch gemerged, und nur unter /etc/apache2/modules.d/88-mod_kj.conf folgendes hinzugefügt: Alias /tomcat.gif /var/www/localhost/htdocs/img/tomcat.gif Alias /tomcat-power.gif /var/www/localhost/htdocs/img/tomcat-power.gif Alias /jakarta-banner.gif /var/www/localhost/htdocs/img/jakarta-banner.gif #jkMount /manager ajp13 jkMount /manager/* ajp13 #jkMount /manager/*.jsp ajp13 jkMount /admin/* ajp13 jkMount /jsp-examples/* ajp13 jkMount /tomcat-docs/* ajp13 jkMount /servlets-examples/* ajp13 - Das funktioniert auch, aber ich will nicht für jede neue Anwendung die Datei neu editieren müssen.. Ist das irgendwie machbar? vielen Dank schonmal im voraus! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Tomcat5 + Apache2: Deploying
sorry, typo in the mail-address... should have been sent to the german mailinglist. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tomcat5 + Apache2: Deploying
On Thursday 29 September 2005 10:24, Roman v. Gemmeren wrote: Hallo, nachdem ich nun Apache2 + Tomcat5 mittels mod_jk eingermassen ans laufen bekommen habe, stellt sich mir nur noch ein Problem dar: Wie kann ich WAR-Archive die ich über die Web-Schnittstelle deployed habe, direkt über den Apache verfügbar machen? Momentan hab ich Tomcat+mod_jk frisch gemerged, und nur unter /etc/apache2/modules.d/88-mod_kj.conf folgendes hinzugefügt: Eu acho que se cada um for resolver falar seu idioma nativo aqui nesta lista, vai ficar dificil para todo mundo se entender. ;) So, please, let's speak english here? []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
vikram ranade schreef: oki I am still stuck at installing gnome..taking forever to compile :-( Sympathies Gnome as a whole isn't so bad; it's just that some of the packages required in the full GNOME monty are among the longest to compile-- most notably mozilla. Even stripped via USE flags (-mozcalendar -mozdevelop +moznocompose +moznoirc +moznomail -moznoxft +mozsvg), it still takes till doomsday to compile, and a number of programs in the full 'gnome' metapackage depend on it. Which is the main reason I hate to bring it up, since you're already in the middle of the compile, but you probably should know which is one of the reasons that I never 'emerge gnome' but always 'emerge gnome-light' instead. But maybe you need Mozilla and Epiphany and Evolution and Evolution Data Server and Sound (bloody) Juicer, in which case, you must suffer the bloated time-consuming compile. On the occasions that I need such an awful compile during the installation process (for instance, I usually want to at least install kdelibs, which also takes forever, because I use a lot of KDE apps, though rarely KDE itself), I usually install a very light WM, like IceWM, as the last stage of install, just to have something I can use to boot into, and have something like a completed system (meaning with X) installed, from which I then compile GNOME or KDE or whatever. Even WindowMaker or AfterStep will do for this purpose, if you like those WMs (and there's plenty to like about them, despite their advanced age and lack of 'modernness'). Heaven knows, they take some 10 or 15 minutes to compile, if that long, and of course system-dependent; I have an Athlon XP 2200+ and 512MB ram, so not really a super-charged setup, though naturally much faster than some of the PIIs and PIIIs I know exist around here-- and the compilation time does not include X of course, but there's no getting around that whatever WM or DE you install. The quick compile of the older WMs is not to be sneezed at by any means, and WindowMaker and AfterStep are pretty usable out of the box, even for those who didn't 'grow up with' them, as many old-school users did. IceWM is for those who 'grew up with' Windows, and is probably a better choice for users who 'grew up with' Win95 and 98. Just ideas for the future, in case you ever need/want/are asked to install Gentoo to another machine. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/28/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Tried it. It worked fine and didn't upset Jack which means my experiment goes on. This is working so much better for me than Gnome on my AMD64 box. I'll have to go back and try the standard Gentoo kernel instead of ck-sources. Thanks for turning me on to this WM and for your help. cheers, Mark In the end the xruns came back so FVWM-Crystal didn't magically solve my problems. (unfortunately...) My quest goes on. Now running 2.6.14-rc2-mm1, looking for 2.6.14-rc2-mm1-rt6 - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
-Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2005 14:43 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install [snip] The quick compile of the older WMs is not to be sneezed at by any means, and WindowMaker and AfterStep are pretty usable out of the box, even for those who didn't 'grow up with' them, as many old-school users did. IceWM is for those who 'grew up with' Windows, and is probably a better choice for users who 'grew up with' Win95 and 98. [OT warning] I wonder, are there any statistics for what WM's do people use? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Which is the main reason I hate to bring it up, since you're alreadyin the middle of the compile, but you probably should know which is one of the reasons that I never 'emerge gnome' but always 'emergegnome-light' instead. But maybe you need Mozilla and Epiphany andEvolution and Evolution Data Server and Sound (bloody) Juicer, in whichcase, you must suffer the bloated time-consuming compile. Oh well cant help it now.Since this is a first Gentoo experience for me...might as well get all of gnome installed and then mess with the system a littlecan always do it all over again (via the sensible route)there is no way im kidding my self that this install is going to last... since this is not a production machinemore like my sandbox to try stuff out... I have an Athlon XP 2200+ and 512MB ram, so not really a super-charged setup, though naturally much faster than some of the PIIs and PIIIs I know existaround here-- HaH!...Im doomed to suffer in that case..Mine is a PIII-750 with 256 MB RAM:-) Thanks anyhow, Dying to post success with Gentoo GUI! Regards, Vikram
[gentoo-user] daemon monitoring programs
for some reason I've got a couple of daemons that keep going out to lunch on me. Are there any good tools for monitoring daemons and possibly restarting them when they go away? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Mark Knecht schreef: On 9/28/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Tried it. It worked fine and didn't upset Jack which means my experiment goes on. This is working so much better for me than Gnome on my AMD64 box. I'll have to go back and try the standard Gentoo kernel instead of ck-sources. snip In the end the xruns came back so FVWM-Crystal didn't magically solve my problems. (unfortunately...) My quest goes on. Now running 2.6.14-rc2-mm1, looking for 2.6.14-rc2-mm1-rt6 Am I the only one who doesn't know what are 'xruns'? Whatever they are, it would seem that the problem can be minimized, but not eliminated by choice of WM, but obviously we couldn't go any further in actually eliminating them without knowing what they are (or at least I couldn't, since I don't actually know what you're referring to). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Document management solution [possibly a bit off-topic...]
I think I want a document management solution - though I'm not sure that everyone understands the same idea by the term. I've got a filing cabinet full of paperwork which is an absolute nightmare to cope with. One of the key problems is that the documents want to be indexed in different ways. All the documents are dated, but they can be further sub-divided by subjects - lots of documents appertain to several subjects. I frequently require to find either a specific document, a sequence of related documents or similar. I rarely need the original document - but often want a copy or just to check some detail or other. Some documents are multi-page, some single page... all can be easily scanned. I'm interested to establish software which minimises the burden of managing these documents - probably as scanned images. I'm familiar with the Dj-Vu Libre library and think that format is fantastic - though a less ambitious format would likely suffice (even at 200dpi grey scale jpegs I get ~10,000 pages without needing more than one DVD to back up...) A significant burden is in scanning and storing all these documents - and this makes a good UI essential - preferably allowing a single click to scan a document (incidentally can anyone recommend a good, cheap, sheet-fed scanner?) before page-preview (cropping/rotating) and assignment of subject classification and date-stamping. It would be useful if there was an OCR pass in order to extract plain-text and to index that - though this feature is not essential. There would need to be a friendly UI in order to establish all the documents matching a given subject classification (or group of classifications) - to preview on-screen and offer an option to print... preferably in-order... maybe with a watermark dating the copy? Is anyone aware of any existing packages - preferably for Gentoo, but any open-source solution would suffice. Thanks in advance for any suggestions :-) Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/29/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: On 9/28/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Tried it. It worked fine and didn't upset Jack which means my experiment goes on. This is working so much better for me than Gnome on my AMD64 box. I'll have to go back and try the standard Gentoo kernel instead of ck-sources. snip In the end the xruns came back so FVWM-Crystal didn't magically solve my problems. (unfortunately...) My quest goes on. Now running 2.6.14-rc2-mm1, looking for 2.6.14-rc2-mm1-rt6 Am I the only one who doesn't know what are 'xruns'? Whatever they are, it would seem that the problem can be minimized, but not eliminated by choice of WM, but obviously we couldn't go any further in actually eliminating them without knowing what they are (or at least I couldn't, since I don't actually know what you're referring to). Holly Holly, I'm so very sorry. Of course you would have no reason to know about xruns if you are not part of the Linux audio community. My apologies. One of the Linux 'methods', if you will, for moving audio between sound cards and applications is a server called Jack (jackd) which is supplied by emerging jack-audio-connection-kit. Jack provides for the movement of digital audio between a sound card and essentially an unlimited number of apps (really 'ports') with a known latency. It's the latency that's really important to those of us doing live recording. If I'm listening to a piano and recording my guitar then I need the two to sound like they are in time or it is virtually impossible to play a part correctly. An 'xrun', standing I think for overrun - go figure - is when something in the system has not taken or delivered digital audio at the agreed upon time. This leads to clicks and pops. If you were to look at the waveform in an oscilloscope there would be some sort of discontinuity. With my 32-bit machines I have been blessed. I have been able, for at least the last year, to run the standard Gentoo kernel at 3mS latency with no xruns. I've been writing and recording music on Gentoo and had no problems while others running on other distros have had to build specialized kernels utilizing patches from Andrew Morton and Ingo Molnar to get equivalent results. On guy in Australia didn't really beleive me so I helped him build a Gentoo box over the net. When that machien came up it worked so well, with the standard kernel, that he converted all the machines in his studio to Gentoo and no brags about how stable his environment is. I looked forward to such an experience with my new AMD64 machine. It did not come to be true. Every 64-bit kernel I've tried so far either has terrible xrun problems or will not build. This includes: gentoo-sources - xruns ck-sources - xruns kernel.org - 2.6.13.3 2.6.14-rc2 - xruns 2.6.14-rc2-rt6 - Ingo's patches - won't build I'm currently running 2.6.14-rc2-mm1 - with Andrew Morton's patches. I have not yet tested it but at least it built. The major change to the kernel to get better real time results is (apparently) to make pretty much everything preemptable. When Ingo's patches are added then a new preemption model shows up in make menuconfig. Unfortunately for me it won't build on 64-bit yet, at least for me. The window manager choice is just one choice those of us playing with low latency audio make. KDE has never worked well for me. Gnome has been fine for the last year until this new AMD64 experience. In the old days we used fluxbox over KDE and Gnome and got good, but not great, results. Anyway, I hope that helps explain my xrun comments. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] daemon monitoring programs
for some reason I've got a couple of daemons that keep going out to lunch on me. Are there any good tools for monitoring daemons and possibly restarting them when they go away? Write a small script running out of cron every x minutes or inittab (man 5 inittab) Do not forget to check the reason daemons quit on you. Eray -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] daemon monitoring programs
Quoting Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: for some reason I've got a couple of daemons that keep going out to lunch on me. Are there any good tools for monitoring daemons and possibly restarting them when they go away? Monit has got to be the best one I've tried. I use it on my server which has surprisingly few problems, but has saved my a$$ too many times to count. I originally started using it because OpenLDAP kept packing up, but I've stopped using it now... HTH, Chris -- Chris Boot [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bootc.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Mark Knecht schreef: On 9/29/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: On 9/28/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Tried it. It worked fine and didn't upset Jack which means my experiment goes on. This is working so much better for me than Gnome on my AMD64 box. I'll have to go back and try the standard Gentoo kernel instead of ck-sources. snip In the end the xruns came back so FVWM-Crystal didn't magically solve my problems. (unfortunately...) My quest goes on. Now running 2.6.14-rc2-mm1, looking for 2.6.14-rc2-mm1-rt6 Am I the only one who doesn't know what are 'xruns'? Whatever they are, it would seem that the problem can be minimized, but not eliminated by choice of WM, but obviously we couldn't go any further in actually eliminating them without knowing what they are (or at least I couldn't, since I don't actually know what you're referring to). Holly Holly, I'm so very sorry. Of course you would have no reason to know about xruns if you are not part of the Linux audio community. My apologies. One of the Linux 'methods', if you will, for moving audio between sound cards and applications is a server called Jack (jackd) which is supplied by emerging jack-audio-connection-kit. Jack provides for the movement of digital audio between a sound card and essentially an unlimited number of apps (really 'ports') with a known latency. It's the latency that's really important to those of us doing live recording. If I'm listening to a piano and recording my guitar then I need the two to sound like they are in time or it is virtually impossible to play a part correctly. An 'xrun', standing I think for overrun - go figure - is when something in the system has not taken or delivered digital audio at the agreed upon time. This leads to clicks and pops. If you were to look at the waveform in an oscilloscope there would be some sort of discontinuity. With my 32-bit machines I have been blessed. I have been able, for at least the last year, to run the standard Gentoo kernel at 3mS latency with no xruns. I've been writing and recording music on Gentoo and had no problems while others running on other distros have had to build specialized kernels utilizing patches from Andrew Morton and Ingo Molnar to get equivalent results. On guy in Australia didn't really beleive me so I helped him build a Gentoo box over the net. When that machien came up it worked so well, with the standard kernel, that he converted all the machines in his studio to Gentoo and no brags about how stable his environment is. I looked forward to such an experience with my new AMD64 machine. It did not come to be true. Every 64-bit kernel I've tried so far either has terrible xrun problems or will not build. This includes: gentoo-sources - xruns ck-sources - xruns kernel.org - 2.6.13.3 2.6.14-rc2 - xruns 2.6.14-rc2-rt6 - Ingo's patches - won't build I'm currently running 2.6.14-rc2-mm1 - with Andrew Morton's patches. I have not yet tested it but at least it built. The major change to the kernel to get better real time results is (apparently) to make pretty much everything preemptable. When Ingo's patches are added then a new preemption model shows up in make menuconfig. Unfortunately for me it won't build on 64-bit yet, at least for me. The window manager choice is just one choice those of us playing with low latency audio make. KDE has never worked well for me. Gnome has been fine for the last year until this new AMD64 experience. In the old days we used fluxbox over KDE and Gnome and got good, but not great, results. Anyway, I hope that helps explain my xrun comments. OK, sorry not to snip, but your post is a continuous thought/explanation, and it doesn't seem right-- and I don't top-post (99% of the time). I have several questions mostly leading to the same ultimate end. But only one is important to express: 1) do you actually need X? i.e., is it possible to record audio in the manner that you do without it? What occurs to me, looking in from outside, is that while your issues are clearly known to be kernel-based, and 64-bit based, the fact that you are using programs that interfere with latency/real-time issues is obfuscating the entire problem. Certainly if the choice of window managers has an effect on the severity of the problem. So clear the waters if you can, because you can't solve a problem that you can't clearly see the outlines of. Can you record audio from the command line? Or do the X-based programs you use run under DirectFB? What I'm getting at is getting rid of all the obstructions that could possibly interfere with the kernel and introduce even more latency issues than what it already has, so that you (or any devs) can see what problems it already has distinctly enough to solve them-- or to eliminate them sufficiently so that you can get on with doing what you do
RE: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Were I you, I would consider: - If keeping X, switching to the absolute most minimal wm possible (twm, ratpoison, ion), to see what effect that had. - If downstepping from X, investigating what programs run under DirectFB and seeing what effect that had. - If going cold-turkey off X, seeing how far you get with the command-line and ncurses programs. I would also add the following: remoting X. X is a hog, as Holly said, but there's no reason the X server would need to run on the same box as the ongoing recording session. Running two systems, one running X and handling the gui operations, and one running your audio apps, might provide enough of the separation to reduce the latency on the audio box. Of course the two cards should probably be connected with at least a 100mb Ethernet connection (to eliminate the overhead of dealing with the network conversations for X). Another possibility might be your choice of filesystems (assuming the recordings are going to disk). Different filesystems have inherent latency based upon their design - journaling adds overhead, btree maintenance in reiser adds overhead, etc. Just using a simple ext2 filesystem for the initial recording followed by backups to a modern filesystem may have a measurable impact. Going back to X, it is a hog both in cpu cycles and in memory; you mention having an amd64 but no quotes on memory. My assumption is that such a system has a big chunk of memory, but I've learned what happens when one assumes. Obviously a lack of sufficient memory can cause you some swapping issues whether you were aware of it or not. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
I'd like to test the newest version of OpenOffice which is 2.0rc1. I have 1.1.4 installed currently. When I do emerge --search openoffice it does not show a 2.0 version as being available. Is this because I need to unmask something or because nothing past 1.1.4 is available in the ports yet? I'm a bit new to this portage system so I still seem to have problems figuring out how to keep everything up to date plus sometimes access the bleeding edge stuff. -- John Lange -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
John Lange wrote: I'd like to test the newest version of OpenOffice which is 2.0rc1. I have 1.1.4 installed currently. When I do emerge --search openoffice it does not show a 2.0 version as being available. Is this because I need to unmask something or because nothing past 1.1.4 is available in the ports yet? I'm a bit new to this portage system so I still seem to have problems figuring out how to keep everything up to date plus sometimes access the bleeding edge stuff. Currently, those are only available with openoffice-bin. I am using 2.0.0rc1 right now. All you need to do is use the appropriate unmask in /etc/portage/package.unmask (you may need to create /etc/portage/ first: =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.93 You may also need to set its keywords to ~x86, by adding the following in /etc/portage/package.keywords (or was it keyword? it's in the portage man page). I don't need to, as I am ~x86 globally: app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86 Tip: Create a binary package of your current openoffice or openoffice-bin before you merge, you can use that to quickly reinstall it if you have problems: quickpkg openoffice openoffice-bin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
When I do emerge --search openoffice it does not show a 2.0 version as being available. Is this because I need to unmask something or because nothing past 1.1.4 is available in the ports yet? cornholio configures # eix openoffice * app-office/openoffice-bin Available versions: 1.1.1 1.1.4-r1 1.1.5 [M]2.0.0_rc1 Installed: none Homepage:http://www.openoffice.org/ Description: OpenOffice productivity suite Clearly it is out there, but it is hard-masked, which is a fairly good indication that you shouldn't play around with it just yet. Source-based distro does not appear to be available, but you can check the bugs database to see if an ebuild has been submitted. Also look to the gentoo wiki for alternate ebuild sources, there may be one floating around out there somewhere. attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
When I do emerge --search openoffice it does not show a 2.0 version as being available. Is this because I need to unmask something or because nothing past 1.1.4 is available in the ports yet? cornholio configures # eix openoffice * app-office/openoffice-bin Available versions: 1.1.1 1.1.4-r1 1.1.5 [M]2.0.0_rc1 Installed: none Homepage:http://www.openoffice.org/ Description: OpenOffice productivity suite Clearly it is out there, but it is hard-masked, which is a fairly good indication that you shouldn't play around with it just yet. Source-based distro does not appear to be available, but you can check the bugs database to see if an ebuild has been submitted. Also look to the gentoo wiki for alternate ebuild sources, there may be one floating around out there somewhere. attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
fire-eyes wrote: Currently, those are only available with openoffice-bin. I am using 2.0.0rc1 right now. All you need to do is use the appropriate unmask in /etc/portage/package.unmask (you may need to create /etc/portage/ first: =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.93 Looks like some clients (such as mozilla) screw that line up. It should be: ||| =app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.93 ignoring the |||. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
John Lange wrote: I'd like to test the newest version of OpenOffice which is 2.0rc1. I have 1.1.4 installed currently. When I do emerge --search openoffice it does not show a 2.0 version as being available. Is this because I need to unmask something or because nothing past 1.1.4 is available in the ports yet? basically (yes unmask). You will have a week or so old beta in openoffice-bin that you can install but I doubt that the rc will be in there before mid to late next week (possibly it is actually the same version that they have bumped up to RC). I'm a bit new to this portage system so I still seem to have problems figuring out how to keep everything up to date plus sometimes access the bleeding edge stuff. /etc/portage/package.keywords is your friend Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newest version of OpenOffice (2.0rc1) in portage?
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:30:17 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: Clearly it is out there, but it is hard-masked, which is a fairly good indication that you shouldn't play around with it just yet. I've been using the OOo 2.0 betas for months now, without any problems. It's hard masked because it is a beta (well. RC now). -- Neil Bothwick Eat shit - 50 million flies can't be wrong pgp9QhDIgnLOK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile ipw2100 against kernel 2.6.13
Richard Fish wrote: John Green wrote: the problem might be with ieee80211. A detailed look at my log file for rebuilding ieee80211 under 2.6.13.2 showed that the ebuild tried to delete kernel file include/net/ieee80211.h, but failed with insufficient privilege, even though emerge was running as root. I deleted the kernel header file by hand and the ebuild for ipw2100 then ran successfully. BTW, the current ~x86 version of the ipw2100 ebuild has a check for this, and if the file exists, it will prompt you to remove it and then fail the build. You might try: echo net-wireless/ipw2100 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge -Dv net-wireless/ipw2100 I'm using ipw2100-1.1.2-r3 with suspend2-sources-2.6.13-r4 without any significant problems. -Richard Thanks for the tip, but it did not help. I still get no communication when running with 2.6.13.2. I guess I'll wait for 2.6.14 and try again. John Green -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Multi-services box
Hi, I'm thinking of setting up a Gentoo server to host a few different services, primarily a small web site on Apache, an Exim mail server, a Halafax fax server and a Squid proxy server. I intend to put the machine in a DMZ to protect the internal network. At first glance, should these 4 packages play well together on the same piece of hardware? I'm very open to suggestions, including separate hardware if it's necessary. Thanks!-- Mark[unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own]
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/29/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Anyway, I hope that helps explain my xrun comments. OK, sorry not to snip, but your post is a continuous thought/explanation, and it doesn't seem right-- and I don't top-post (99% of the time). I have several questions mostly leading to the same ultimate end. But only one is important to express: 1) do you actually need X? i.e., is it possible to record audio in the manner that you do without it? I need X. I run Ardour as well as a number of other audio gui apps. http://www.ardour.org/ What occurs to me, looking in from outside, is that while your issues are clearly known to be kernel-based, and 64-bit based, the fact that you are using programs that interfere with latency/real-time issues is obfuscating the entire problem. Certainly if the choice of window managers has an effect on the severity of the problem. Certainly. And this is not the first time I've been through this having now been using Linux audio for 4 years. Belive me, I've had many machines that didn't work for a while. This experience is not an exception - it's pretty much the rule. Clearly though, in my mind, this current problem is one of two things: 1) The recent kernel's are known to produce good results on 32-bit machines while running X. Unfortunately the current patch sets are not building for me as a 64-bit kernel. This could be because of configuration chices I'm making or somethign else. The kernel patch developers will eventually catch up to my issues and things will improve. 2) There is a specific hardware or driver problem with the NForce4 motherboard. Possibly the motherboard doesn't work well, or possibly the drivers have some problems. The former is not desired. The later will get attention eventually. So clear the waters if you can, because you can't solve a problem that you can't clearly see the outlines of. Can you record audio from the command line? Or do the X-based programs you use run under DirectFB? What I'm getting at is getting rid of all the obstructions that could possibly interfere with the kernel and introduce even more latency issues than what it already has, so that you (or any devs) can see what problems it already has distinctly enough to solve them-- or to eliminate them sufficiently so that you can get on with doing what you do until the kernel stabilizes so you can use it normally. Good questions. I didn't say this earlier. I probably should have. If I boot this machine into a console mode (i.e. - no xdm/gdm) and run Jack in one console I can log in as root in another console, do emerges all day long and I get no xruns, at least with the small amount of testing I've done so far. This is using 2.6.14-rc2-mm1 so it has some new code but not all of Ingo's stuff. I mean, X is a horrible hog, heaven only knows what effect your nVidia or ATI kernel modules may be having on the ability of the kernel to behave properly, since they also make demands on the kernel that 'distract' it, as it were. And if Jack is a daemon (which I know it is), it's not like it needs X for itself. Right, but as I say, much slower PCs are able to use the standard Gentoo kernel and run Gnome with no xruns. It's only this 3GHz 64-bit machine that has the problem. The sound card has been used in an Athlon XP 1600+ machine and it works fine so I trust its drivers at least in 32-bit mode. It's of course quite possible that I'm talking out of my butt, Not the least bit possible. Your thought are clear and very coorect IMO. since I am not a member of the Linux audio community, but I do know that the first step in troubleshooting is to simplify the environment as much as possible, and then slowly increase the complexity to see when and where things break down. Absolutely. Hopefully with the additional info above you'll see that is what I've been doing, within my limited abilities to patch kernels, etc. Were I you, I would consider: - If keeping X, switching to the absolute most minimal wm possible (twm, ratpoison, ion), to see what effect that had. Right. FVWM, fluxbox, etc. These can just be tested. - If downstepping from X, investigating what programs run under DirectFB and seeing what effect that had. - If going cold-turkey off X, seeing how far you get with the command-line and ncurses programs. Neither are really acceptable as far as I know today. Am I, in fact, talking out of my butt (since it seems that the 'real' audio community would have tried at least some of this)? Or are there reasons that this simplification process is not possible for professional audio recording? As above - see Ardour, Jamin, Muse, Rosegarden, etc. Thanks for your thoughts. They are helpful. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/29/05, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were I you, I would consider: - If keeping X, switching to the absolute most minimal wm possible (twm, ratpoison, ion), to see what effect that had. - If downstepping from X, investigating what programs run under DirectFB and seeing what effect that had. - If going cold-turkey off X, seeing how far you get with the command-line and ncurses programs. I would also add the following: remoting X. X is a hog, as Holly said, but there's no reason the X server would need to run on the same box as the ongoing recording session. Running two systems, one running X and handling the gui operations, and one running your audio apps, might provide enough of the separation to reduce the latency on the audio box. Of course the two cards should probably be connected with at least a 100mb Ethernet connection (to eliminate the overhead of dealing with the network conversations for X). This is an interesting idea actually. I currently run two boxes anyway. All audio is connected between them using ADAT optical (i.e. - red laser) or spdif so I've got 26 digital audio channels going across. Maybe running remotely could solve some of this. Thanks. Another possibility might be your choice of filesystems (assuming the recordings are going to disk). Different filesystems have inherent latency based upon their design - journaling adds overhead, btree maintenance in reiser adds overhead, etc. Just using a simple ext2 filesystem for the initial recording followed by backups to a modern filesystem may have a measurable impact. In fact it does. I wrote a short online paper about that a few years ago. I use ext3. Going back to X, it is a hog both in cpu cycles and in memory; you mention having an amd64 but no quotes on memory. My assumption is that such a system has a big chunk of memory, but I've learned what happens when one assumes. Obviously a lack of sufficient memory can cause you some swapping issues whether you were aware of it or not. Thisis a good point also. The machine has 512MB. This has been more than enough on my previous 32-bit machines, but on this AMD64 running the Gentoo 64-bit kernel it seems that memory usage is significantly higher. On the 32-bit machine I seem to use about 300-350MB by the time I have Gnome up and maybe Firefox open. I alomost have never seen swapping. On the AMD64 I'm seeing 450-500MB and a small amount of swapping every day. I'm unclear about the 64-bit environment anyway. OK, it's 64-bit, but I also have a pile of emulation libraries emerged to take care of dependencies. I don't know when they are getting used, except for the 32-bit Firefox I'm running so that I get more multimedia stuff. Anyway, more memory may well be a good thing to do. Thanks for the ideas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?
Hello everybody, I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem to google for it. I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo way? -mw __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-services box
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Mark wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of setting up a Gentoo server to host a few different services, primarily a small web site on Apache, an Exim mail server, a Halafax fax server and a Squid proxy server. I intend to put the machine in a DMZ to protect the internal network. At first glance, should these 4 packages play well together on the same piece of hardware? Why not? I have one machine doing web, email, IMAP/POP3, DNS, FTP and MySQL. My one caveat would be to make sure its not more load than the hardware can handle. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-services box
On Thursday 29 September 2005 12:05, Mark wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of setting up a Gentoo server to host a few different services, primarily a small web site on Apache, an Exim mail server, a Halafax fax server and a Squid proxy server. I intend to put the machine in a DMZ to protect the internal network. At first glance, should these 4 packages play well together on the same piece of hardware? I'm very open to suggestions, including separate hardware if it's necessary. sure, however, I wouldn't dmz the whole box...just forward the ports you need... Thanks! -- Mark [unwieldy legal disclaimer would go here - feel free to type your own] -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?
On 9/29/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody,I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seemto google for it.I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and followthe INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentooway?You can build it by hand but then whats the point of running Gentoo? Instead you should write an ebuild ( http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2) then contibute it back to the community( http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml), or find someone else who will do it for you/already has done it and use their ebuild (http://bugs.gentoo.org)-Mike _Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
050928 Holly Bostick wrote: I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. -- snip -- I had installed FVWM-Crystal which I thought was very pretty I upgraded and just now booted into it It works...! It's gorgeous...! I'm just stunned (in a good way). Finding software which really suits you is a lot like finding a lover/church. Aristotle describes the phenomenon in detail in books 9-10 of his Ethics. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Document management solution [possibly a bit off-topic...]
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I think I want a document management solution - though I'm not sure that everyone understands the same idea by the term. This might be overkill: http://www.alfresco.org/ Or maybe something like ScrollKeeper would suffice? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, maxim wexler wrote: I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem to google for it. I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo way? The Gentoo Way would be to switch over PORTAGE_OVERLAY (see /etc/make.conf) and write an ebuild for it ;-) -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?
I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo way? It's the general unix way of doing things, so sure it fits into gentoo also. Ebuilds are not really necessary unless you believe a lot of other folks will be using the same package. That said, having written some ebuilds lately, I can tell you for the most part the process is pretty easy. Start with an ebuild for a package that is similar to what you're going to install, make the various changes for the package (the gentoo doc for the ebuilds is your best friend here), and drop it into your overlay. If you want to release it, it goes easily into bugs.gentoo.org. If you don't want to do the ebuild yourself, and you believe at some point in the future someone else might get one into portage, you can always use the ./configure script to install to /usr/local - it would still be available yet allows for future emerging should it get added. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Document management solution [possibly a bit off-topic...]
A. Khattri wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I think I want a document management solution - though I'm not sure that everyone understands the same idea by the term. This might be overkill: http://www.alfresco.org/ Alfresco is what I'd have called a content management system - as opposed to a document management system. I'm interested in managing archives of documents I have received from other people (in dead-tree format)... Or maybe something like ScrollKeeper would suffice? Scrollkeeper seems to target electronic manuals etc. (as far as I can tell) - It doesn't appear to be focused on scanned documents. The typical sort of documents I need to manage include monthly and quarterly invoices and statements etc. from a wide variety of vendors. Like Alfresco, I'd say that Scrollkeeper looks more like a content management system than a document management system... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Reiserfs speed
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry Putnam wrote: I am using reiserfs but only on trial basis. I've noticed what appears to be quite a large increase in time needed for fs intensive things like du or rm -rf as compared to ext3 but I've done no real comparison testing. Have you noticed that too? This is normal, and it's a feature. Reiserfs uses hash values to speed [...] Thanks for the interesting (snipped) info. You can 'fix' this by tar'ing, reformatting, and restoring the filesystem, which will have the effect of ordering files on disk according to their hash value. I was thinking more along the line of fixing it by reverting to ext3. I'm not a power user or even a very knowledgable user. But am something of a long time user, and since `96, I've used ext2 or 3 exclusively. I don't recall a single incident of losing or corrupting files that was attributable to ext[23]. I'd heard reiserfs was `better' but apparently the things its better at aren't things I use or notice. Is it possible to revert to ext3 from single boot mode or mounted from a live cd without a lot of hassles? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/29/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/05, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were I you, I would consider: - If keeping X, switching to the absolute most minimal wm possible (twm, ratpoison, ion), to see what effect that had. - If downstepping from X, investigating what programs run under DirectFB and seeing what effect that had. - If going cold-turkey off X, seeing how far you get with the command-line and ncurses programs. I would also add the following: remoting X. X is a hog, as Holly said, but there's no reason the X server would need to run on the same box as the ongoing recording session. Running two systems, one running X and handling the gui operations, and one running your audio apps, might provide enough of the separation to reduce the latency on the audio box. Of course the two cards should probably be connected with at least a 100mb Ethernet connection (to eliminate the overhead of dealing with the network conversations for X). This is an interesting idea actually. I currently run two boxes anyway. All audio is connected between them using ADAT optical (i.e. - red laser) or spdif so I've got 26 digital audio channels going across. Maybe running remotely could solve some of this. Thanks. Well, interesting, but not the solution. I'm logged into Lightning, the AMD64 machine, remotely in two terminals. One terminal is running QJackCtl, a small X app that allows me to start and stop the Jack server, along with make connections, etc. In a second terminal I log in as root and start an emerge of a couple of things that don't get built - a new kernel tree and firefox-bin. I don't immediately get xruns, but when heavy disk operations start I do. Some of the xruns are over 100mS - absolutely huge when you're trying to run at 3mS! What's interesting to me is that I Can stream a movie from the EIDE DVD drive on this machine and never create an xrun, but as soon as I start using the SATA drive I do. That seems to be a pretty good clue I think. It's a good idea though. I'll keep looking into it. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Multi-services box
On 29 September 2005 19:05, Mark wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of setting up a Gentoo server to host a few different services, primarily a small web site on Apache, an Exim mail server, a Halafax fax server and a Squid proxy server. I intend to put the machine in a DMZ to protect the internal network. At first glance, should these 4 packages play well together on the same piece of hardware? I'm very open to suggestions, including separate hardware if it's necessary. They play along just fine. Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?
You should first look into bugzilla just to make see if there is a bug request for that package, then do the overlay thing ;) On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 10:18 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem to google for it. I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo way? -mw __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- live free() or die() Jadex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Mark Knecht schreef: Can you record audio from the command line? Or do the X-based programs you use run under DirectFB? What I'm getting at is getting rid of all the obstructions that could possibly interfere with the kernel and introduce even more latency issues than what it already has snip Good questions. I didn't say this earlier. I probably should have. If I boot this machine into a console mode (i.e. - no xdm/gdm) and run Jack in one console I can log in as root in another console, do emerges all day long and I get no xruns, at least with the small amount of testing I've done so far. This is using 2.6.14-rc2-mm1 so it has some new code but not all of Ingo's stuff. OK, so X really is a problem, then. Now I really want to find a way to get you rid of it. I mean, X is a horrible hog, heaven only knows what effect your nVidia or ATI kernel modules may be having on the ability of the kernel to behave properly, since they also make demands on the kernel that 'distract' it, as it were. And if Jack is a daemon (which I know it is), it's not like it needs X for itself. Right, but as I say, much slower PCs are able to use the standard Gentoo kernel and run Gnome with no xruns. It's only this 3GHz 64-bit machine that has the problem. The sound card has been used in an Athlon XP 1600+ machine and it works fine so I trust its drivers at least in 32-bit mode. Honestly, we don't care what much slower PCs can do, because this isn't one of them, and we don't think there's something wrong with the sound card. The issue is that this particular machine is a 64 bit one that apparently needs special handling in order to minimize the pre-existing latency issues with 64-bit kernels/drivers/environments so that you can use it for what you intend to use it for. Other conditions are irrelevant, imo. It's of course quite possible that I'm talking out of my butt, Not the least bit possible. Your thought are clear and very coorect IMO. :-) since I am not a member of the Linux audio community, but I do know that the first step in troubleshooting is to simplify the environment as much as possible, and then slowly increase the complexity to see when and where things break down. Absolutely. Hopefully with the additional info above you'll see that is what I've been doing, within my limited abilities to patch kernels, etc. Patching the kernel isn't simplifying the environment if you're piling possibly unnecessary additional demands on the kernel. The X server runs on top of the kernel. The window manager runs on top of the X server, which runs on top of the kernel. The whole thing is rather like a head wound (the premise being that even non-serious head wounds tend to heavy bleeding, obscuring the nature and severity of the wound itself). The use of the X server, and anything but the lightest possible WM puts additional stress on the system, which may be the straw that breaks the camel's back in this case. Were I you, I would consider: - If keeping X, switching to the absolute most minimal wm possible (twm, ratpoison, ion), to see what effect that had. Right. FVWM, fluxbox, etc. These can just be tested. No, I really mean twm, ratpoison, ion and the like. FVWM can be configured to be absolutely minimal, but learning to do that is an unreasonable distraction. Fluxbox uses too much X (has to draw toolbars and tabs and decorative windows). Even openbox might, and I don't know enough about pekwm or kahakai to know if they would be appropriate. If you must use X (which I will accept for the moment) for the GUI applications, well, fine, but what I'm suggesting is a window manager that uses the absolute minimum of X resources possible. - If downstepping from X, investigating what programs run under DirectFB and seeing what effect that had. - If going cold-turkey off X, seeing how far you get with the command-line and ncurses programs. Neither are really acceptable as far as I know today. Am I, in fact, talking out of my butt (since it seems that the 'real' audio community would have tried at least some of this)? Or are there reasons that this simplification process is not possible for professional audio recording? As above - see Ardour, Jamin, Muse, Rosegarden, etc. I'm not completely convinced that Ardour, Jamin, Muse and Rosegarden won't run under DirectFB, but I'm not so experienced with DirectFB that I can say definitively one way or the other. I see that at least Muse does have an ncurses interface (or at least an ncurses USE flag which would suggest that it has an ncurses interface). And looking at the DirectFB site, it seems possible that there could be a place for it to help work around the issue: FusionSound Audio sub system for multiple applications FusionSound is a very powerful audio sub system in the manner of DirectFB and a technical demonstration of Fusion. FusionSound supports multiple
Re: [gentoo-user] How to apply a patch to an ebuild?
Holly Bostick wrote:
That's almost it--
1) copy the ebuild and /files folder to your overlay
(/usr/local/portage/media-sound/aumix/, assuming that your
PORTDIR_OVERLAY is /usr/local/portage);
2) copy the patch to the /files folder in the overlay folder with the
other aumix patches;
3) edit the following section of the overlay ebuild copy:
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd ${S}
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nohome.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-close-dialogs.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-save_load.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nls.patch
to
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd ${S}
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nohome.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-close-dialogs.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-save_load.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nls.patch
== epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-autoconf.patch
Save (of course), redigest (ebuild
/usr/local/portage/media-sound/aumix/aumix-2.8-r2.ebuild digest), emerge.
Hope this helps,
Holly
Worked first try! Thank you!
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/29/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: Can you record audio from the command line? Or do the X-based programs you use run under DirectFB? What I'm getting at is getting rid of all the obstructions that could possibly interfere with the kernel and introduce even more latency issues than what it already has snip Good questions. I didn't say this earlier. I probably should have. If I boot this machine into a console mode (i.e. - no xdm/gdm) and run Jack in one console I can log in as root in another console, do emerges all day long and I get no xruns, at least with the small amount of testing I've done so far. This is using 2.6.14-rc2-mm1 so it has some new code but not all of Ingo's stuff. OK, so X really is a problem, then. Now I really want to find a way to get you rid of it. In the meantime, following along on Dave's idea about running remotely I now have Ardour running at 64/2. (sub 3mS) No xruns yet. 1) On Lightning I boot without X and start Jack in a console. 2) On my remote machine some audio apps are failing with lots of 'BadAtom messages, but if I log into Lightning using ssh -Y lightning ardour then ardour comes up remotely and seems to be working fine. I've run a couple of sessions, and at least in playback no xruns yet. I'm also playing oggs from a 1394 drive and have hdspmixer running. My issue right now is this is a lot of network traffic and this room only has a hub so I'm off to pick up a cheap switch at lunch. I still see a lot of memory usage. That concerns me a bit. You make some very good points below. I'll come back later today and spend some time thinking and answering them. For now let me say that I have 1% of the experience you do with FB solutions (I've NEVER used it) so that's a whole new area for me to look at, but it could be interesting. More later, and thanks very much to you and Dave. I'm not done here. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Setting up a network
I'm having difficulty figuring out something that I think should be simple so I was hoping some of the talented folk here could help me out: Say I've been given the following public, routeable IPs to use: 123.123.123.10 123.123.123.11 123.123.123.12 123.123.123.13 And I want to put them all behind the same firewall while assigning the public IPs to the protected machines: +- 123.123.123.11 | 123.123.123.10 --+- 123.123.123.12 | +- 123.123.123.13 Ideally, I'd like to have a number of non-routeable IPs available by way of one of these two options: +- 123.123.123.11 | 123.123.123.10 --+- 123.123.123.12 | +- 123.123.123.13 | +- 192.168.1.1 | +- 192.168.1.2 OR +- 123.123.123.11 | 123.123.123.10 --+- 123.123.123.12 | +- 123.123.123.13 --+- 192.168.1.1 | +- 192.168.1.2 How do you do this? Up until recently, I've just assigned all of the routeable IPs to the firewall and forwarded the appropriate ports to the servers behind -- but ALL the servers behind the firewall are using 192.168.0.0/16 ips at that stage. I thought I could just allow Linux to forward the packets, but I couldn't figure out the routing since I'm not dealing with a whole subnet, only a few allocated IPs. Someone care to shed some light here? -- the more law and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. - lao-tsu -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-29 15:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I could just allow Linux to forward the packets, but I couldn't figure out the routing since I'm not dealing with a whole subnet, only a few allocated IPs. If a network delegation does not lend itself to being expressed in CIDR (network/masklen) notation easily, and especially if it is just a few addresses, your best bet may be to simply treat it as several host routes. Then set up routing as usual. - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDPEFTdY+HSb3praYRAu6DAJ9gfpe6OL0dhxD2urHucxJCPQJk1gCgmvvW fw/LtTDwCQK0LxQ5HlRwCyc= =84wA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 11:35:00PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: python 2.2, otherwise, you should be able to just run /usr/sbin/python-updater to rebuild all python packages for the 2.3 python-updater is also failing: # /usr/sbin/python-updater * Logging disabled due to permissions * Starting Python Updater from 2.2 to 2.3 : * Searching for packages with files in /usr/lib/python2.2 /usr/lib32/python2.2 /usr/lib64/python2.2 .. Adding to list: dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16 Adding to list: dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6 * Calculating Upgrade Package List .. * Re-ordering packages to merge .. * Preparing to merge these packages in this order: dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6 dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16 * Starting to merge (1/2) dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6 .. Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6. * Failed merging dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6 (1/2)! * Starting to merge (2/2) dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16 .. Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16. * Failed merging dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16 (2/2)! * * * Packages that still need to be manually emerged :* * * Failed Packaged: * * These packages have failed and need to be re-emerged again. * Alternatively, try re-running this script again to see if it * can be fixed. * emerge -p \=dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6 \=dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16 # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
Wes Gray wrote: [snip] emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-python/pyorbit-1.99.6. [snip] emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16. With revdep-rebuild it tries to remerge the same version that you have installed. If your version is no longer in the portage tree, then there are no ebuilds to satisfy your old version. You should update to versions that currently exist in the portage tree. emerge --oneshot --update dev-python/pyorbit dev-python/gnome-python Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] VFS root device and kernek panic
hi, i have problem with Gentoo Linux 2005.1 AMD64 installation. CPU: Athlon 64 2800+ HD SATA Maxtor 80GB Ati Radeon 9200 etc... after make partition, LVM2 and compiling kernel and config grub my kernel give me follow message: VFS Cannot Open root device sda3 or unknow-block(0,0) ... Kernel panic ... i have set grub to follow synax ### Title Gentoo/Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 root=/dev/sda3 ### and my /etc/fstab is configured as follow ### /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2 /dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sda3 / xfs noatime 0 1 /dev/vg/usr /usr xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/home /home xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/opt /opt xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/var /var xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/tmp /tmp xfs noatime 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 ### what is appened? thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] Document management solution [possibly a bit off-topic...]
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: Alfresco is what I'd have called a content management system - as opposed to a document management system. I'm interested in managing archives of documents I have received from other people (in dead-tree format)... If there was something that scanned the document, performed OCR on it, checked the OCR output and then built an electronic repository for you I'd recommend it. Until then, Alfresco is the closest thing Ive seen that is open source. If you're willing to do your own scanning and OCR'ing then it will do the rest. BTW, I would call things like Mambo or Xaraya, content-management tools - Alfresco is a slightly different kettle of fish. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VFS root device and kernek panic
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, jangar wrote: hi, i have problem with Gentoo Linux 2005.1 AMD64 installation. CPU: Athlon 64 2800+ HD SATA Maxtor 80GB Ati Radeon 9200 etc... after make partition, LVM2 and compiling kernel and config grub my kernel give me follow message: VFS Cannot Open root device sda3 or unknow-block(0,0) Is SCSI and XFS support builtin to your kernel? ... Kernel panic ... i have set grub to follow synax ### Title Gentoo/Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 root=/dev/sda3 ### and my /etc/fstab is configured as follow ### /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2 /dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sda3 / xfs noatime 0 1 /dev/vg/usr /usr xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/home /home xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/opt /opt xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/var /var xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/tmp /tmp xfs noatime 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 ### what is appened? thanks -- FAQ list /F-A-Q list/ or /fak list/ n. [common; Usenet] Syn FAQ, sense 2. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Making A News Server
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: My ISP's news server (news.cableone.net) does not allow posting. I wanted to set up my own news server so that I could both get nntp/news data and post to newsgroups. I found a howto at www.tldp.org and have been following it. The howto said to open leafnode/config (I copied mine frim /etc/leafnode/config.example to /etc/leafnode/config) and set the server variable to be equal to my ISP's news server. Herein lies my problem. The comment in the file above the server variable assignment is: ## This is the NNTP server leafnode fetches its news from. ## You need read and post access to it. Mandatory. I don't have post access to news.cableone.net - That's why I'm doing this. Is there a way around this, or can anyone make suggestions for setting up a news server that can both read and post to Usenet groups? Setting up a new server is a non-trivial task. If you just want to read and post messages you might be better off getting an account from Giganews. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 01:21:37PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: With revdep-rebuild it tries to remerge the same version that you have installed. If your version is no longer in the portage tree, then there are no ebuilds to satisfy your old version. You should update to versions that currently exist in the portage tree. I don't follow why python was out of date though. I had emerged it recently. I finally had to upgrade it to the older 2.2 version to get revdep-rebuild to work which makes no sense to me. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a network
On September 29, 2005 03:32 pm, Michael Kjorling wrote: On 2005-09-29 15:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I could just allow Linux to forward the packets, but I couldn't figure out the routing since I'm not dealing with a whole subnet, only a few allocated IPs. If a network delegation does not lend itself to being expressed in CIDR (network/masklen) notation easily, and especially if it is just a few addresses, your best bet may be to simply treat it as several host routes. Then set up routing as usual. I'm not sure I understand. Can you explain with a little more detail? In my case, the IPs I'm working with are: x.y.z.186 x.y.z.187 x.y.z.188 x.y.z.189 x.y.z.190 -- what the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. - nikita khrushchev -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
Wes Gray schreef: On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 01:21:37PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: With revdep-rebuild it tries to remerge the same version that you have installed. If your version is no longer in the portage tree, then there are no ebuilds to satisfy your old version. You should update to versions that currently exist in the portage tree. I don't follow why python was out of date though. I had emerged it recently. I finally had to upgrade it to the older 2.2 version to get revdep-rebuild to work which makes no sense to me. Python is one of the apps which use SLOTs. This means that you can 'upgrade' Python without disturbing the previous version, as the 'upgrade' is installed alongside the original version, in a new SLOT, rather than replacing it. SLOTted installs are designated by [ NS] (for New Slot) rather than [ N] (New) or [ U] (Upgrade) in the emerge listing (if you emerge with --pretend or --ask so that you can see what Portage is going to do before it does it, which is always a good idea, preferably with --verbose as well). So it's within the realm of possibility that you emerged whatever version of Python into a new SLOT, and the original version still existed, and that's what revdep-rebuild was upset about. If you aren't using the older 2.2 version (nothing depends on it that can't work with a more current version of python), you might consider running python-rebuilder to migrate any stray modules and then unmerging 2.2 (since you won't need it any more). Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VFS root device and kernek panic
On Sep 29, 2005, at 3:50 PM, jangar wrote: hi, i have problem with Gentoo Linux 2005.1 AMD64 installation. CPU: Athlon 64 2800+ HD SATA Maxtor 80GB Ati Radeon 9200 etc... after make partition, LVM2 and compiling kernel and config grub my kernel give me follow message: VFS Cannot Open root device sda3 or unknow-block(0,0) ... Kernel panic ... i have set grub to follow synax ### Title Gentoo/Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 root=/dev/sda3 ### and my /etc/fstab is configured as follow ## # /dev/sda1 /boot ext2defaults,noatime 1 2 /dev/sda2 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/sda3 / xfs noatime 0 1 /dev/vg/usr /usrxfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/home/home xfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/opt /optxfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/var /varxfs noatime 0 0 /dev/vg/tmp /tmpxfs noatime 0 0 none/proc procdefaults 0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom autonoauto,user 0 0 ## # what is appened? you compiled dm_mod as a module, or not at all. enable device mapper support in the kernel. thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ccache taking way too long time
On 9/28/05, Tamas Sarga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Fernando Meira wrote: Hi, I been using ccache for sometime since its mail goal is to speedup common compiling sets. This is great when updating several packages. However, every time that a package is to be emerge/updated my system waits for ccache some long minutes. This happens twice, at the emerge start and end. For some small packages, it takes more time to handle ccache than compiling the package itself... so I wondering if this is normal, or it is something mis-configured? Here is how it looks: emerge (2 of 10) media-sound/cdparanoia- 3.9.8-r2 to / * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache Downloading ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/. .. (...) Completed installing cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 into /var/tmp/portage/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2/image/ Merging media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 to / * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache (...) FernandoHi,I also use ccache for a some time.I use$CCACHE_DIR=/var/cache/ccache/ls -la /var/cache/ccachedrwxrws---18 portage portage4096 Sep 25 16:29 . drwxr-xr-x 7 rootroot 4096 Oct 142004 ..drwxr-sr-x18 portage portage4096 Oct 242004 0drwxr-sr-x18 portage portage4096 Oct 242004 1drwxr-sr-x18 portage portage4096 Oct 242004 2 snipMy portage user is portage.I haven't got the mentioned problem.What are your settings?Cheers,Tamas Sarga Sárga Tamás Hi, thanks for replying.. My setting are: $CCACHE_DIR=/root/.ccache/ Portage user is also portage. # ll .ccache/ total 14 drwxrwS--- 18 root portage 576 Sep 29 00:21 . drwx-- 19 root root 1032 Sep 29 23:39 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 0 Aug 25 13:32 .keep drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:48 0 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:35 1 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:43 2 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:42 3 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 22:00 4 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:42 5 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 20:55 6 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:42 7 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:55 8 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:43 9 drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:37 a drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:44 b drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:48 c drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:43 d drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 21:49 e drwxrwsr-x 18 root portage 456 Sep 3 20:55 f -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 66 Sep 29 00:21 stats -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 120 Sep 24 22:32 tmp.hash.nandux.29184.gcno -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 120 Sep 12 00:13 tmp.hash.nandux.6642.gcno # du -sh .ccache/ 965M .ccache/ # ccache -s cache hit 4569 cache miss 32736 called for link 3200 multiple source files 7 compile failed 618 preprocessor error 209 not a C/C++ file 1420 autoconf compile/link 3617 unsupported compiler option 1214 no input file 2570 files in cache 65472 cache size 960.6 Mbytes max cache size 2.0 Gbytes Can it be just because it's inside root's dir? Cheers, Fernando
[gentoo-user] my subscribe not work
i send message and i it's visible into webmail mailing list system as news.gmane.org, but in my mailbox any message not arrived
Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?
The others have told you how to incorporate it in portage. It is nice to write an ebuild for these things as it makes updating and removal of the package easy. But this package is one bash script and one man page. As long as you remeber where you installed it to updating and removal of two files shouldn't be a problem. OTOH writing an ebuild is a useful skill to learn, I did it for a game recently and learned a lot. I can now install and remove the game, and update it at will. Just a pity the powers that be don't bother promoting such stuff from bugs.gentoo.org. On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:18:34 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem to google for it. I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo way? -mw __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] my subscribe not work
look through the archives for gmail issues. On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:54:15 +0200 jangar wrote: i send message and i it's visible into webmail mailing list system as news.gmane.org http://news.gmane.org, but in my mailbox any message not arrived -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Document management solution [possibly a bit off-topic...]
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:52:54 -0400 (EDT) A. Khattri wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: Alfresco is what I'd have called a content management system - as opposed to a document management system. I'm interested in managing archives of documents I have received from other people (in dead-tree format)... If there was something that scanned the document, performed OCR on it, checked the OCR output and then built an electronic repository for you I'd recommend it. Until then, Alfresco is the closest thing Ive seen that is open source. If you're willing to do your own scanning and OCR'ing then it will do the rest. BTW, I would call things like Mambo or Xaraya, content-management tools - Alfresco is a slightly different kettle of fish. Yes I know what Steve is after, and I'd love to find a way. I was put off by Alfresco being called Content Management because all of the content management systems I have seen end up bioding something that resembles [name your favourite news website] A closer look at alfresco reveals that it does look more like what Steve (and I ) are after. I am a lawyer and I handle hundreds of documents every week, from email through pdf (both made from an electronic source and therefore has all the text available, and scanned) openoffice (one enlightened client!), word, excel, html, faxes, letters (on paper, ya know!) you name it someone will send me something in it! It'd be great to have a metadata system where I could give everything some keywords: client name, file number, matter number, subjects, useful as a precedent, useful case etc etc etc so that in future I can : pull up every document on my computer, my secretary's computer, my mail server (including attachments), my file server, my palm pilot, relating to a particular client pull up every document about company debentures find the case i downloaded and stored somewhere about liability of guarantors in a consumer credit loan find the seminar book for the seminar i went to on asome new area of law. find a letter written by Joe Bloggs sometime in 2003. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] test message
is only for test my enabled posting
Re: [gentoo-user] test message
jangar schreef: is only for test my enabled posting As far as I know, you are not going to get your original message back in your Gmail box. Gmail leaves a copy of the messages you send in your sent folder, and when the message comes back from the list server, it is recognized by Gmail as an exact copy of the message in the sent folder and thus Gmail doesn't make yet another copy in your Inbox. Or something like that. Anyway, your own messages don't appear in the list conversation, if you read the list via Gmail (because they're all in your Outbox, or Sent folder or some such). As replied in your other thread, this has been discussed on the list several times, and there is no 'solution', since it's a Gmail 'feature'. We are getting your messages, though. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo and Rita
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/features/3375039 :-) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a network
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 17:13 -0400, daniel wrote: On September 29, 2005 03:32 pm, Michael Kjorling wrote: On 2005-09-29 15:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I could just allow Linux to forward the packets, but I couldn't figure out the routing since I'm not dealing with a whole subnet, only a few allocated IPs. If a network delegation does not lend itself to being expressed in CIDR (network/masklen) notation easily, and especially if it is just a few addresses, your best bet may be to simply treat it as several host routes. Then set up routing as usual. I'm not sure I understand. Can you explain with a little more detail? In my case, the IPs I'm working with are: x.y.z.186 x.y.z.187 x.y.z.188 x.y.z.189 x.y.z.190 -- what the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. - nikita khrushchev Your initial post was 4 ip addresses from 10-13, their is no legal subnet that contains only those four ip addresses. This time you posted 5 ip addresses from 186-190, again , no legal subnet. Since you don't actually have an ip network, but a few addresses belonging to a network you need to use host routes. You can google for stuff like ip subnet and CIDR for more information. Be careful with just using postrouting and prerouting chains, if you really don't understand the flow you will likely get yourself into trouble. Hence back to host routing as was previously suggested. Regards, Ted -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Document management solution [possibly a bit off-topic...]
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 10:36 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:52:54 -0400 (EDT) A. Khattri wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: Alfresco is what I'd have called a content management system - as opposed to a document management system. I'm interested in managing archives of documents I have received from other people (in dead-tree format)... If there was something that scanned the document, performed OCR on it, checked the OCR output and then built an electronic repository for you I'd recommend it. Until then, Alfresco is the closest thing Ive seen that is open source. If you're willing to do your own scanning and OCR'ing then it will do the rest. BTW, I would call things like Mambo or Xaraya, content-management tools - Alfresco is a slightly different kettle of fish. Yes I know what Steve is after, and I'd love to find a way. I was put off by Alfresco being called Content Management because all of the content management systems I have seen end up bioding something that resembles [name your favourite news website] A closer look at alfresco reveals that it does look more like what Steve (and I ) are after. I am a lawyer and I handle hundreds of documents every week, from email through pdf (both made from an electronic source and therefore has all the text available, and scanned) openoffice (one enlightened client!), word, excel, html, faxes, letters (on paper, ya know!) you name it someone will send me something in it! It'd be great to have a metadata system where I could give everything some keywords: client name, file number, matter number, subjects, useful as a precedent, useful case etc etc etc so that in future I can : pull up every document on my computer, my secretary's computer, my mail server (including attachments), my file server, my palm pilot, relating to a particular client pull up every document about company debentures find the case i downloaded and stored somewhere about liability of guarantors in a consumer credit loan find the seminar book for the seminar i went to on asome new area of law. find a letter written by Joe Bloggs sometime in 2003. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure if what you're describing exists right now in the open source world, but I can tell you that it certainly does in the commercial world. I used to work in the metadata department for a startup here in upstate NY, USA that built a web based application targeting lawyers such as yourself. It was written in PHP/MySQL but the database was being migrated to Oracle due to the rapid growth in the database tables. Unfortunately though, in the migration to Oracle, they elected to create a dynamic scheme to support adding custom metadata fields as requested per client. It was great for flexibility but the performance was horrible even on quad 3 ghz xeon boxes with maxed out memory. For us programmers, it also made the easy queries difficult and the hard queries near impossible. Eric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?
maxim wexler blissfix at yahoo.com writes: Hello everybody, I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem to google for it. I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo way? -mw There is now an ebuild in Gentoo's bugzilla, so you could use Portdir_Overlay and provide some much needed testing. I'd link to the Gentoo Wiki for how to do it but it's been spammed, so here goes of course do the commands without the quotes: Set PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf to /usr/local/portage Download dekagen-1.0.2.tar.gz and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles Login as root and do a mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created. Run ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest in the dekagen directory. Add app-cdr/dekagen ~x86 to /etc/portage/package.keywords Finally, do an emerge dekagen and it should work. Good luck. -G.Y. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?
Greg Yasko gyasko at cox.net writes: Login as root and do a mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created. Copy the ebuild, which is at gentoo bugzilla under app-cdr/dekagen to your dekagen directory. Run ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest in the dekagen directory. Add app-cdr/dekagen ~x86 to /etc/portage/package.keywords Finally, do an emerge dekagen and it should work. Good luck. -G.Y. Whoops! I forgot to tell you to copy the ebuild to it's directory. See above. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?
Forgive me for saying so, but this ebuild seems a little off to me: 1. why install to /opt? 2. DEPEND s on a lot of optional stuff from my quick read of the dekagen docs this morning. Can you do DEPEND with alternatives? like DEPEND bladeenc|lame|vorbistools 3. aren't all the DEPENDS actually RDEPENDS as nothing at all is needed to compile/install the program, other than bash and man which I believe should always be present. But I am open to education on these issues :-) (By the way congratulations on the quick work, I started to do the same thing, and got waylaid by my real employment :-) On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:04:04 + (UTC) Greg Yasko wrote: There is now an ebuild in Gentoo's bugzilla, so you could use Portdir_Overlay and provide some much needed testing. I'd link to the Gentoo Wiki for how to do it but it's been spammed, so here goes of course do the commands without the quotes: Set PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf to /usr/local/portage Download dekagen-1.0.2.tar.gz and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles Login as root and do a mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created. Run ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest in the dekagen directory. Add app-cdr/dekagen ~x86 to /etc/portage/package.keywords Finally, do an emerge dekagen and it should work. Good luck. -G.Y. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?
Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: Forgive me for saying so, but this ebuild seems a little off to me: Change it to meet the Gentoo standards, if you have the time. I'd like to see what all you'd change -- it's my first ebuild I pirated the structure from bashburn-1.6.ebuild:) -G.Y. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:36:30 + (UTC) Greg Yasko wrote: Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: Forgive me for saying so, but this ebuild seems a little off to me: Change it to meet the Gentoo standards, if you have the time. I'd like to see what all you'd change -- it's my first ebuild I pirated the structure from bashburn-1.6.ebuild:) -G.Y. I'm no expert either, in fact I was kinda hoping you were going to give me a lesson! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a network
Ted Kaczmarek wrote: Your initial post was 4 ip addresses from 10-13, their is no legal subnet that contains only those four ip addresses. This time you posted 5 ip addresses from 186-190, again , no legal subnet. 186-190 is starting to look like a subnet to me, x.x.x.184/29 to be exact. Daniel what subnet are you using for those IP's or better yet, what subnet did you ISP tell you to use when they assigned those to you. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] download first and compile later?
Quick question I looked in the emerge man pages but i cant seem to figure out how to download all the packages using emerge and then compile them is there some parameter that i can use? emerge download first parameter package ? or do i have to mess with the make.conf file? Thanks! regards, Vikram
Re: [gentoo-user] download first and compile later?
--fetchonly W On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 10:27:43AM +0530, vikram ranade wrote: Quick question I looked in the emerge man pages but i cant seem to figure out how to download all the packages using emerge and then compile them is there some parameter that i can use? emerge download first parameter package ? or do i have to mess with the make.conf file? Thanks! regards, Vikram -- Pintsize: We have been in said laundry basket! It smelled a bit funny, but was properly supportive of the royal hindquarters. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 49 days, 8:32 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
