Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:


Am Freitag, 23. Dezember 2005 07:12 schrieb ext Dale:

 


I have a rig that I need to free up some space on the hard drive.  I
want to remove KDE completely.  Naturally doing a emerge unmerge kde
does not get the job done.  What is a easy way to do this?  I did a
emerge -ep world | grep kde but it is one heck of a list.  It's 6 pages
long in OOo.
   



emerge unmerge kde-meta and emerge -a depclean

(Since you have such a long package list I assume you installed via split 
ebuilds, otherwise replace kde-meta with kde).


HTH...

Dirk
 

That works but that warning message worried me a bit.  I did a -p 
first.  The -a would have worked to though.


That was to simple.  I figured someone would come along with a command 
from here to Oregon or something.  I live in Mississippi, USA.  It's a 
long ways anyway.  Maybe I should have said from earth to the moon.  LOL


Thanks
Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:42:38 -1000, Beau E. Cox wrote:

 I have a small perl script, 'echanges', that determines the latest
 timestamp for installed packages; I find it very helpful to determine
 what my daily cron of 'emerge -uD world' has done. I will post it
 here if there is any interest;

But genlop already does that. What it is missing is the option to use the
installation date of another package as the argument to --date.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:12:41 -0600, Dale wrote:

 I have a rig that I need to free up some space on the hard drive.  I 
 want to remove KDE completely.  Naturally doing a emerge unmerge kde 
 does not get the job done.  What is a easy way to do this?

If you installed the kde meta-package, then all other kde packages will
be installed as dependencies of that, so you can remove them with

emerge -C kde
emerge -a depclean

You can list all installed kde packages with

qpkg -g kde-base
or 
equery list | grep kde-base

but removing them all is a bad idea, some of them, like kdelibs, may
also be dependencies pf packages that are not part of kde-base.

You could also add -kde to USE and do emerge -uavDN world, to make sure
any packages compiled with optional KDE support (and dependencies) have
it removed.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:32:23 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yes, but then you'd have to do some funky regexp stuff to find the
  last line showing gcc (in this case) and only show the lines after
  it. It was a lot easier to do this with find -newer.
 
 Here is a pooryly coded sloppy perl script I just wrote.
 Rather than get to tricky with date regex it relies on genlop output
 being in chrono order. If it ever isn't I'm sunk.

What's wrong with using a simple find command as I originally posted?

However, if you want to do it with genlop, here's a one line bash
script.

#!/bin/sh

genlop --list --date $(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | sed 's/^ 
*\(.*\) .*/\1/')


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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Tom Smith

Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:

 

Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
is rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin...
   



Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
showed and make sure they are all installed.
 

That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo 
packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM 
indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:42:06 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

 Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
 showed and make sure they are all installed.

 That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo 
 packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM 
 indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

The key word here is indicated. rpm only knows about the files in its
database, files that were themselves installed by rpm. Obviously, that
database is empty on a Gentoo system as everything has been installed from
portage.

What you need to do is go through the list of files that rpm says it
needs and check for the existence of each one with locate (run updatedb
before you start, to be safe). You may well find that they all exist, in
which case you can call rpm with --nodeps. If not, you'll have a far
shorter list of truly missing files to check up on. If the package for a
file is not obvious from its name, try searching for it on
http://rpmfind.net or http://packages.debian.org. This will tell you
which package supplies this file on other distros, the Gentoo package
will generally have a similar name.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with openoffice2 and menu fonts

2005-12-23 Thread Ryan Viljoen
 I've a font problem is openoffice2: I've compiled the source but the
 fonts of the menu are all extremely big (if I open the File menu it
 convers almost all the screen).

 There'is a way to reduce the fonts of the menu or an option to give to
 emerge during the compilation?

 thanks
 Giulio

Do the rest of your GTK apps have large fonts? If so emerge
gtk-chtheme that will allow your change the font size. The only
difference is, is that you need to export:

OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome

before starting OO2.

More info here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beautify_GNOME#OpenOffice


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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Mariusz Pękala wrote:


Alternate way:
cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base
for x in *; do emerge unmerge =$x ; done
   



Oh, no. I was too quick - it can break dependencies. Don't do it.

:-)

 

Me didn't. I used the depclean one, after a -p and a good look first. 
O-O LOL I didn't understand that one. It went right over my head, wy 
over.


Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Mariusz Pękala
On 2005-12-23 00:12:41 -0600 (Fri, Dec), Dale wrote:
 Hi guys, and Holly,
 
 I have a rig that I need to free up some space on the hard drive.  I 
 want to remove KDE completely.  Naturally doing a emerge unmerge kde 
 does not get the job done.  What is a easy way to do this?  I did a 
 emerge -ep world | grep kde but it is one heck of a list.  It's 6 pages 
 long in OOo.
 
 There has to be a easy way.  Be gentle with me now.  I'm learning.  Oh, 
 if it is a mile long, give me a map of what it is doing.  Sort of 
 explain it's thinking to me a bit.  I do now what the pipe thing is 
 though.  That can be neat.  Would be nice if unmerge kde would work 
 though. 
 

emerge -va unmerge $(grep kde /var/lib/portage/world)
emerge -va depclean

I hope that would do the trick.
-a will ask you before doing unmerge.

Alternate way:
cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base
for x in *; do emerge unmerge =$x ; done

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Mariusz Pękala
 Alternate way:
 cd /var/db/pkg/kde-base
 for x in *; do emerge unmerge =$x ; done

Oh, no. I was too quick - it can break dependencies. Don't do it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Holly Bostick
Tom Smith schreef:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 
 On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 
 
 
 Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you 
 need is rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin...
 
 
 
 Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
  showed and make sure they are all installed.
 
 
 That was my original question that started this thread... Which 
 Gentoo packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that
  RPM indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

The RPM errors do not mean that those packages are not installed.

I mean, come on--
 error: Failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libICE.so.6 is needed 
 by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libSM.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
 libX11.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXext.so.6 is needed 
 by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXi.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
 libc.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1 is needed by
  Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
 libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libglib-1.2.so.0 is
  needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
 libm.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1 is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpam.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
 libpthread.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1 is 
 needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libz.so.1 is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
 Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01

Surely you don't think that you're missing /bin/sh or glibc!!

The issue here is that RPMs use an RPM database to keep track of what is
installed. You don't have an RPM database, because Gentoo is
not a binary RPM-based distribution and therefore none of the
dependencies were installed via RPM. You are never going to be able to
convince the RPM which you're trying to install independently that the
programs are already present.

This is why --nodeps was suggested; the RPM you're trying to install
won't then try to scan the non-existant database for programs that are
installed, but not via RPM. Presumably the ebuilds for RPM applications
do a complex process of linking the various aspects of the pre-compiled
binary to the previously-existing aspects of the Gentoo system, so that
the RPM doesn't freak out, and the Gentoo system can access the RPM program.

Win4Lin is, naturally, a very complicated install, and so it's not as if
you could just 'pop it in' as if it was Flash or the ATI drivers
(one-function applications that don't require hooks to many parts of the
base system). Were I you, I would consider looking at the most recent
Win4Lin ebuild and see how it does it, then either try copying the
ebuild to my overlay and updating it to work with the current version
you have-- or as previously suggested, contacting the maintainer of the
Win4Lin ebuild (or posting a bug to that effect) and seeing if you can
get an update. After all, the maintainer will have to do this sometime,
when the app is released, and perhaps it's a difficult procedure that
takes some time. So it might be worthwhile to give said maintainer a
heads-up now and get the ball rolling if it is not. At the very least,
you might be able to get some tips as to how to get a
provisional/temporary/overlay ebuild working, or what the issues
involved might be.

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Etienne . Hilson
Hello.

Since my last portage update (like many other people), I got the error message
Calculating world dependencies
!!! Problems have been detected with your world file
!!! Please run emaint --check world

I run emaint --check world and it told me this :

'app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools' has no ebuilds available

Then, I do a emerge -s vmware-linux-tools :

*  app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 5.0.0
  Latest version installed: 5.0.0
  Size of downloaded files: 11,103 kB
  Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/
  Description: Guest-os tools for VMWare workstation
  License: vmware

Then I thought Oh yes, sure this stuff is not into the stable branch !
(and I'm not ~x86 because I'm a Gentoo newbie)

I make also a emerge --info vmware-linux-tools to check but I saw this :
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86

I don't understand then why it is masked...

I search on the Gentoo portage documentation and put
app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools
into the /etc/portage/package.unmask file
but after that, nothing changed :-(

I have two questions :
Why is it masked although ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ?
How could I resolve my issue and make it unmasked for me ?

Thank you :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread ddup1
try this :

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -av vmware



On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:12:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Since my last portage update (like many other people), I got the error message
 Calculating world dependencies
 !!! Problems have been detected with your world file
 !!! Please run emaint --check world
 
 I run emaint --check world and it told me this :
 
 'app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools' has no ebuilds available
 
 Then, I do a emerge -s vmware-linux-tools :
 
 *  app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools [ Masked ]
   Latest version available: 5.0.0
   Latest version installed: 5.0.0
   Size of downloaded files: 11,103 kB
   Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/
   Description: Guest-os tools for VMWare workstation
   License: vmware
 
 Then I thought Oh yes, sure this stuff is not into the stable branch !
 (and I'm not ~x86 because I'm a Gentoo newbie)
 
 I make also a emerge --info vmware-linux-tools to check but I saw this :
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
 
 I don't understand then why it is masked...
 
 I search on the Gentoo portage documentation and put
 app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools
 into the /etc/portage/package.unmask file
 but after that, nothing changed :-(
 
 I have two questions :
 Why is it masked although ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ?
 How could I resolve my issue and make it unmasked for me ?
 
 Thank you :-)
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Incorrect information from /proc/cpuinfo

2005-12-23 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Devon,
on Monday, 2005-12-19 at 23:13:52, you wrote:
 I'm going to reboot again and experiment a bit to see if I can nail down
 what triggers the abberation.

Just an idea, haven't followed the thread: could it have to do with the
new timer frequency setting under Processor Type and Features?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Dale
A lot of people say that doing that on command line is not a good idea.  
If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper package.* 
file.


My $.02 worth.

Dale
:-)

I top posted just to be consistant.  No flaming please.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


try this :

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -av vmware



On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:12:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hello.

Since my last portage update (like many other people), I got the error message
Calculating world dependencies
!!! Problems have been detected with your world file
!!! Please run emaint --check world

I run emaint --check world and it told me this :

'app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools' has no ebuilds available

Then, I do a emerge -s vmware-linux-tools :

*  app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools [ Masked ]
 Latest version available: 5.0.0
 Latest version installed: 5.0.0
 Size of downloaded files: 11,103 kB
 Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/
 Description: Guest-os tools for VMWare workstation
 License: vmware

Then I thought Oh yes, sure this stuff is not into the stable branch !
(and I'm not ~x86 because I'm a Gentoo newbie)

I make also a emerge --info vmware-linux-tools to check but I saw this :
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86

I don't understand then why it is masked...

I search on the Gentoo portage documentation and put
app-emulation/vmware-linux-tools
into the /etc/portage/package.unmask file
but after that, nothing changed :-(

I have two questions :
Why is it masked although ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ?
How could I resolve my issue and make it unmasked for me ?

Thank you :-)


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2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: snacc

2005-12-23 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
thanks I will try google.

On 12/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I was holping to find snacc ( that is a gnu tool for ASN.1 ) on
  portage tree. How can I find this file on portage tree if it exists ?

 Look at emege man page.  Partiularly `emerge -s'

 But you might like `esearch' better.  Its on the portage tree at:
 app-portage/esearch (/usr/bin/esearch).

 I don't nkow what ASN.1 or snacc is but if its a fill inside a package
 you can't find it on portage.

 One way to do it is find it on one of the distros that list files
 inside there packages like rpm does.  Find it on google and see what
 package its in.  There is a good chance the same package name or close
 will be true for gentoo too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question

2005-12-23 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Mark,
on Tuesday, 2005-12-20 at 07:40:42, you wrote:
  [thin client]
 I'm sure that's possible. I could even use her current Win ME box in
 some sort of dual boot config I suppose. However the reason I didn't
 start with that idea is that I am not there to hand hold her. If she's
 running Gnome how do I ensure that everything is saved on the main
 machine and not the thin client. I fear that this whole path, while
 certainly possible, might cause me too much work. Please remember this
 is a 75 year old lady who has never used Linux. ;-)

I got a Linux box for my mum as well after her Mac died, so I know it's
near impossible to teach some people about folder structures :)
Hoewever, on a thin client that wouldn't be a problem as the only thing
the client does is to provide a view to the host. All application
would be running on your machine so they wouldn't even know their
display is being routed to somewhere else where another file system may
be present.
I haven't done it except with a dedicated X-Terminal but it should be
the same procedure for Gentoo as for any other Linux.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:11:14 -0600, Dale wrote:

 A lot of people say that doing that on command line is not a good

A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/

 idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper
 package.* file.

Indeed, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line carries risks, only use
it when you understand those risks.

To the OP, do you really need vmware-linux-tools? these are the guest OS
tools. AIUI, you only need them if you are running Gentoo inside VMware. 


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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Peter
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:37:33 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

 Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the 
 license code. They haven't officially released the Terminal Server 
 product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got 
 is the initial release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for 
 Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality.
 
We disagree. Pro and Server are separate products. Pro is Pro. It is a W4L
version to run W2K and XP only. It is a client product.

snip...

 
 The biggest problem with WTS 3 is that the fricking Num Lock doesn't
 work on ANY Linux distro I've tried EXCEPT MDK 9.2. 
 

Try using numlockx.

 It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments
 about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or
 other people having with it?
 

Well, first of all, I _don't_ use it. I had evaluated it. It is dog slow.
You must install kqemu to get any performance out of it. Mercifully, they
included it with the product. However, most reports are that it takes a
long time to load and programs are v e r y slow. Read the forum pages.

Also, you noted that W4L 9x is at version 6? This is incorrect. Version 5
is current. And there _IS_ a win4lin in portage. 5.1.1 is the latest and
current. However note that the kernel patches for 2.6.14 don't exactly
work right. Again read their forum pages.

Win4Lin 9x: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=4
Win4Lin Pro: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6

Good luck.

 Peter wrote:
 
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:



VMware isn't an option. I'll be using Win4Lin Pro as a Windows Terminal
Server.

I got a two month eval license from them as we will be upgrading from
their kernel-based Win4Lin Terminal Server 3.0 software. I don't think
VMware can do anything like this, can it?




Don't know if VMW has anything like a terminal server. However, you
should read the Win4Lin forums and see some of the comments. I don't
even think the server product is finished yet. If it's anything like
Pro, then stay away.

What you installed is NOT the terminal server product. Good luck.


  



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:11:14 -0600, Dale wrote:

 


A lot of people say that doing that on command line is not a good
   



A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/
 



I top posted because the previous person did.  I didn't want someone to 
get a sore neck, like mine.  :(  I put that in my reply too.  Also 
requested no flaming but . . . . .


 


idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper
package.* file.
   



Indeed, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line carries risks, only use
it when you understand those risks.
 



He's new.  He didn't know any better than to do just what he was told. 


Dale
:-)

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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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[gentoo-user] permissions on ntfs partitions

2005-12-23 Thread Matthias Langer
Can anybody tell me if it is normal that files on ntfs partitions are
executable by default when mounting them under linux ? Or is it possible
that this has something to do with the following line from my fstab:

/dev/hde1 /mnt/bill ntfs user,umask=,nls=utf8 0 0

Thanks,
Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote:

 A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/

 I top posted because the previous person did.  I didn't want someone to 
 get a sore neck, like mine.  :(  I put that in my reply too.  Also 
 requested no flaming but . . . . .

You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :)

 idea. If it is masked or keyworded, he needs to add it to the proper
 package.* file.

 Indeed, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line carries risks, only
 use it when you understand those risks.

 He's new.  He didn't know any better than to do just what he was told. 

Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without
suitable warnings.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote:

 


A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/
 



 

I top posted because the previous person did.  I didn't want someone to 
get a sore neck, like mine.  :(  I put that in my reply too.  Also 
requested no flaming but . . . . .
   



You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :)

 

Maybe it felt warm because it is so cold here.  It's hard to tell from 
reading print though.




Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without
suitable warnings.


 

We agree on that.  Even a well seasoned user shouldn't use it from what 
I have read.  After all, there are better ways to do it.


Dale
:-)

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To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] permissions on ntfs partitions

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Matthias Langer wrote:


Can anybody tell me if it is normal that files on ntfs partitions are
executable by default when mounting them under linux ? Or is it possible
that this has something to do with the following line from my fstab:

/dev/hde1 /mnt/bill ntfs user,umask=,nls=utf8 0 0

Thanks,
Matthias

 

I'm not a windoze user but I can dig in a man page on occasion.  This 
may help.  I'm not sure though.



noexec
 Do not allow direct execution of any binaries on the mounted file 
system. (Until recently it was possible to run binaries anyway using a 
command like /lib/ld*.so /mnt/binary. This trick fails since Linux 
2.4.25 / 2.6.0.)



I think you can put noexec in the options part of the fstab line to stop 
that.  Oh man mount.  Lots of options there.


Dale
:-)


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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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[gentoo-user] hardware tests

2005-12-23 Thread Martins Steinbergs
hi,

not the gentoo question however i have box that is failing to work, constant 
reboots so there isn't way to install any OS. I was runing memtest86 from 
Knoppix without errors, is there any other programs to test different parts 
of hardware from knoppix, gentoo install cd or other bootable cd?

martins
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[gentoo-user] Gnome won't start

2005-12-23 Thread Kurt Guenther


I can run Xinit and XDM to get into a window manager, but when I run GDM 
I get a login screen, I login, and then it hangs.  Nothing in 
/var/log/messages.  I'm not sure how to debug.


--Kurt

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[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread reader
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 genlop --list --date $(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 | sed 's/^ 
 *\(.*\) .*/\1/')

What is it supposed to do?  Here it gets genlops usage message.

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[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread reader
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What's wrong with using a simple find command as I originally posted?

Do you mean run against / or what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question

2005-12-23 Thread Phil Sexton

Matthias Bethke wrote:


I got a Linux box for my mum as well after her Mac died, so I know it's
near impossible to teach some people about folder structures :)


I have taught a few computer classes and that is one of the 
things I emphasized, no matter what the operating system.


I have a small 2 drawer filing cabinet with the folders labeled 
like the operating system lays them out (Windows is much harder 
to explain as the file browser is so weirdly layed out).  Lots 
of apps don't use My Documents (or whatever Microsoft/Mac use 
now) as the default save folder.


It seems to be a fairly hard concept for middle aged and above, 
unless they have previous experience in filing stuff in a file 
cabinet.  They seem to ignore the prompts on where to save the 
file or have never bothered to configure the application for 
setting a default, but I have mostly managed to get the concept 
across.


sidetrackI have a Windows user that continually calls me for 
advise about buying computer stuff and he is scared stiff of 
Linux.  He is upgrading his wife's computer (and ignored my 
advise, he ended up with a Gateway and only one IDE slot 
available for upgrading and all the video/audio built into the 
MOBO) and wanting to sell her old box.  Since he has an ISDN 
connection and room on his router/modem, I suggested he keep it 
and build a Linux file server for both of them.  Since he 
doesn't want to do that, I was thinking of trying to talk him 
down to a real low price (Pentium II, 330 Mhz 8.5 GB hard drive) 
and building me one!/sidetrack


I have a cousin who is 82, and I think I have the concept across 
to him, but I think he has a harder time than seeing than I do 
(I have cataracts in both eyes) so has difficulty in seeing the 
prompts.


I try to get them both to save the stuff they want to keep to a 
different drive/partition since re-installation of Windows is 
sometimes the only repair I have found that actually works.


Neither one ever seems to remember what name it is or that they 
gave it, so the search feature isn't very good for them either.


Naming files to a meaningful name and saving them where you know 
you can find them is pretty important IMHO, but Microsoft 
actually makes that pretty hard, especially with their e-mail 
client as it doesn't save it in a standard format and stores it 
in the operating system area as well as the default location. 
That is usually one of the things they wish to save as well.


I attempt to solve this by getting them to create a My E-mail 
folder below the My Documents folder, or a folder on the other 
drive/partition if they have one.


I am slowly getting one person used to Linux after they bought a 
Compaq and when it crashed and I couldn't recover anything with 
the CDs that came with it.  They didn't want to call them as it 
was out of warranty and were unwilling to buy an OEM Windows 
install CD, so I installed Fedora Core 4 on it.  It does 
everything (if I send them click by click instructions) except 
for a couple of web sites and run the Windows programs CDs they 
keep buying. (roll eyes emoticon here)


Still, they continue to buy CDs that will only run in 
Windows/Mac for their young daughter.  I guess I need to install 
wine on my box and see if they will run on that.


I don't see how some folks can be more dense than I am as I have 
to take prednisone and morphine, two of the worst mind altering 
drugs I know of (and prednisone is the worst, the morphine just 
makes me drunk and clumsy).


HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Etienne . Hilson
Oooh please, don't fight because of my dumb questions :'(

Actually, vmware-linux-tools is already installed.
I just asked this question to know a little more about portage usage and 
manipulation.

I followed your advices and added
vmware-linux-tools ~x86
to the /etc/portage/package.keywords

et voilà :-)

Indeed, I'm running Gentoo inside VMWare.
At work, the laptops are installed with a Windows xp image
and there is no support if the basic installation is removed.
But as I am not able to live and work without any linux distrib,
I install VMWare and install fedora for my first linux experience,
and after one year, I try Gentoo with much pleasure but also many 
questions ;-)

Thank you very much for your help :-)

Etienne

On Friday 23 December 2005 14:28, Dale wrote:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote:
 A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/
 
 I top posted because the previous person did.  I didn't want someone to
 get a sore neck, like mine.  :(  I put that in my reply too.  Also
 requested no flaming but . . . . .
 
 You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :)

 Maybe it felt warm because it is so cold here.  It's hard to tell from
 reading print though.

 Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without
 suitable warnings.

 We agree on that.  Even a well seasoned user shouldn't use it from what
 I have read.  After all, there are better ways to do it.

 Dale

 :-)

 --
 To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

 I have four rigs:

 1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now
 two 80GB hard drives. 2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs
 of ram and a 4GB drive. 3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU,
 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad
 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

 All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are
 set up as servers.

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[gentoo-user] Unable to update openoffice from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1

2005-12-23 Thread gvlp
Compilation of openoffice abort with this message:
packimages -- version: 1.12
packimages: ERROR: no such directory: 
'/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.1/work/ooo-build-2.0.1/build/ooa680-m1/ooo_custom_images/crystal'

Since nobody else is complaining, I suppose it has to do with my configuration:

~# emerge -pv openoffice

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.1 [2.0.0] USE=+curl -eds -gnome +gtk 
+java -kde -ldap 
-mozilla +xml2 +zlib 0 kB 

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

~# emerge info
Portage 2.1_pre1 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r3, 
2.6.14-gentoo-r5 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 i686 AMD Athlon(tm)
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre12
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ~x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/lib/X11/xkb 
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ 
ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo ft
p://mirror.scarlet-internet.nl/pub/gentoo
MAKEOPTS=-j2
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 3dnow X alsa apm audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr crypt 
cups curl encode exif 
expat ffmpeg flac foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif glut gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 
imagemagick imlib java
jpeg lcms libg++ libwww mad mmx mng motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis 
opengl oss pam pcre
pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline recode scanner sdl slang spell sse 
ssl tcltk tc
pd threads tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb vorbis xine xml2 
xmms xv xvid zlib 
elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

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Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question

2005-12-23 Thread Phil Sexton

Phil Sexton wrote:

Some stuff that wasn't grammatically correct...

I hope that made a little sense, especially the non native 
English speakers.  I see my pain med must be kicking in...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome won't start

2005-12-23 Thread Ernie Schroder
Check /var/log/gdm/:0.log. It should give you some useful info.

On Friday 23 December 2005 10:02, a tiny voice compelled Kurt Guenther to 
write:
 I can run Xinit and XDM to get into a window manager, but when I run GDM
 I get a login screen, I login, and then it hangs.  Nothing in
 /var/log/messages.  I'm not sure how to debug.

 --Kurt

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Dale
We're not fighting . . . . YET.  LOL  Most have a sense of humor here.  
They have to when I am around.  LOL


Dale
:-)
Parden the top post.  I'm breaking him in gently.  It's better than I 
got when I first came here for sure.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oooh please, don't fight because of my dumb questions :'(

Actually, vmware-linux-tools is already installed.
I just asked this question to know a little more about portage usage and 
manipulation.


I followed your advices and added
vmware-linux-tools ~x86
to the /etc/portage/package.keywords

et voilà :-)

Indeed, I'm running Gentoo inside VMWare.
At work, the laptops are installed with a Windows xp image
and there is no support if the basic installation is removed.
But as I am not able to live and work without any linux distrib,
I install VMWare and install fedora for my first linux experience,
and after one year, I try Gentoo with much pleasure but also many 
questions ;-)


Thank you very much for your help :-)

Etienne

On Friday 23 December 2005 14:28, Dale wrote:
 


Neil Bothwick wrote:
   


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0600, Dale wrote:
 


A lot of people say top-posting is bad too :-/
 


I top posted because the previous person did.  I didn't want someone to
get a sore neck, like mine.  :(  I put that in my reply too.  Also
requested no flaming but . . . . .
   


You weren't flamed. Believe me, you'd have known if you were :)
 


Maybe it felt warm because it is so cold here.  It's hard to tell from
reading print though.

   


Which is why this sort of usage should never be recommended without
suitable warnings.
 


We agree on that.  Even a well seasoned user shouldn't use it from what
I have read.  After all, there are better ways to do it.

Dale

:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now
two 80GB hard drives. 2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs
of ram and a 4GB drive. 3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU,
128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad
200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are
set up as servers.
   



 




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To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Holly Bostick
It means posting the answer here, which is not helpful to understanding
if you don't know what the question is

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
 Erm, by the way, what means top posting ?

...Instead of posting the answer here, which makes logical sense in
relation to the question.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Gnome won't start

2005-12-23 Thread Kurt Guenther

Ernie Schroder wrote:


Check /var/log/gdm/:0.log. It should give you some useful info.

On Friday 23 December 2005 10:02, a tiny voice compelled Kurt Guenther to 
write:
 


I can run Xinit and XDM to get into a window manager, but when I run GDM
I get a login screen, I login, and then it hangs.  Nothing in
/var/log/messages.  I'm not sure how to debug.

--Kurt
   



 



Thanks, I'll remember that one.

It turned out to be the VMware workstation update.  I just needed to run 
vmware-config.pl, and things started humming again.


--Kurt


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[gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Hi guys, and Holly too,

I did my gcc upgrade on my servers and I messed up.  I was doing two at 
a time and one is faster then the other.  I unmerged the old gcc BEFORE 
doing the revdep-rebuild on one of them.  I may have really messed up here.


This is what I get:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev system
/usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #



It doesn't matter what I tell it to do, I get that same error.  I did a 
portage rescue but still no go.  How do I fix this?  It's a old AMD rig 
so I guess some x86 rescue tarball would work.  If such a creature exists.


I have been messing with this for a while.  I'm going to nap a while.  
I'm tired and my neck is sore too.


Thanks

:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge pb with vmware-linux-tools

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:07:37 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Erm, by the way, what means top posting ?

A. Putting the reply ahead of the question

Q. What is top-posting?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:17:37 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What's wrong with using a simple find command as I originally posted?
 
 Do you mean run against / or what?

Against /var/db/pkg, where you'll find everything you have installed,
complete with datestamps. See my first post in this thread.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:15:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  genlop --list --date $(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 |
  sed 's/^ *\(.*\) .*/\1/')
 
 What is it supposed to do?  Here it gets genlops usage message.

you need to give the name of the package you want to compare against as
an argument to the script. Sorry, I should have made that clear.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to update openoffice from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:54:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Compilation of openoffice abort with this message:
 packimages -- version: 1.12
 packimages: ERROR: no such directory: 
 '/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.1/work/ooo-build-2.0.1/build/ooa680-m1/ooo_custom_images/crystal'
 
 Since nobody else is complaining, I suppose it has to do with my
 configuration:

The complaints are here,  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116432
where it is reported as fixed; sync again.


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Re: [gentoo-user] nscd; what am I doing wrong?

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/22/05, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:07:12PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote

  Everything looks ok.  Could you try:
 
  strace -f -o /tmp/strace.out ping -c 4 www.google.com

   I uncommented most of nscd.conf and rebooted, but still no luck.  I
 don't know the attachment policy here, so I'm putting the stack trace
 (all 12 kbytes) on my webpage.  Execute...

 wget www.waltdnes.org/strace.txt

 ...to have a look.  It appears to be opening files all over the place.

There is something strange here

When I lookup www.google.com, I get:

carcharias ~ # host www.google.com
www.google.com has address 66.102.7.104
carcharias ~ # host 66.102.7.104
104.7.102.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.google.com.

However for www.google.com, you get 72.14.203.104.  But that address
doesn't resolve to a host name when I do a reverse lookup.

carcharias ~ # host 72.14.203.104
104.203.14.72.in-addr.arpa has no PTR record

If I had to make a guess, I would say that your ISP has got some kind
of proxy service setup that lies to you about the address of
www.google.com, so that you actually connect through one of their
servers.

If that is the case, then it is also possible that they set the expire
time on the DNS responses to expire immediately to prevent any local
caching of the addresses.

You might test with a less popular address, something that is unlikely
to be cached/proxied by your ISP.

Anyway nscd appears to be setup and working correctly.  Ping connected
to the nscd socket, and did not send any DNS queries directly.  So
your end looks like it is setup and working correctly.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Paul Varner
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 08:06 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 You can list all installed kde packages with
 
 qpkg -g kde-base
 or 
 equery list | grep kde-base
 

For equery, you can use:

equery list kde-base/ 

This tells equery to list the installed packages in category kde-base.
The command will run faster as well since it is not processing the
entire list of installed packages.  If you don't want to see the fancy
colored output then do:

equery --quiet list kde-base/ | cat

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-23 Thread Peter
To Gentoo nVidia users:

We are in the process of developing and testing
a unified nVidia driver ebuild. When implemented,
it will replace the nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and 
nvidia-settings ebuilds. It will also add the utility
nvidia-xconfig.

We would like your help in evaluating, testing, and
commenting on this approach. Please locate the latest
nvidia ebuild at: 

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116085

The download package for the new ebuild is at:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=75389

This is the very latest nVidia 8178 driver. Please
be sure and review the nVidia changelog and readme.
If your fonts are abnormally small, see Appendix Y
and the nVidia forums for info on DPI. See

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=forumid=14

for specific news and info about the nVidia drivers
for linux.

Since this is a developmental ebuild, it is NOT currently
in portage. If you would like to try it out, please
follow these simple instructions:

1) Untar the file into /usr/local/portage/x11-drivers
(if your portage overlay is in a different location,
adjust accordingly).

2) exit all window managers

3) unmerge nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and nvidia-settings
(emerge -C .) This ebuild will NOT install if any
other nVidia ebuilds are installed.

4) edit /etc/portage/package.keywords and add

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers   ~x86 (or ~amd64). 
Other arches are not supported. Sorry.

5) emerge nvidia-drivers.

This will load the kernel module, glx support, nvidia-
settings and -xconfig all in one swoop.

NOTE: Modular X support is not yet implemented.

If you have comments, notice a bug, or if you have 
suggestions for improvement, PLEASE post to the existing
bug report:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116085.

Please DO NOT report bugs about the upstream driver. If the
driver does not work, then see the nVidia news forum.

We hope you will find this approach a more streamlined and
easy implementation for nVidia.

Thanks for your participation and feedback.

Peter Hyman on behalf of the nVidia devs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:30:06 -0600, Paul Varner wrote:

 For equery, you can use:
 
 equery list kde-base/ 

Aha! Nice one, I tried equery list kde-base but got nothing. It seems the
trailing slash makes all the difference, having the same effect as qpkg's
-g. You'll wean me off qpkg completely before long :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] uninstall orphaned packages?

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/22/05, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 'dev-db/mysqltool' has no ebuilds available
 'dev-java/htmlparser' has no ebuilds available
 'media-libs/divx4linux' has no ebuilds available

snip

 What I'm not sure about is how to check dependents and unmerge
 the two orphans.  Any ideas before I try some deep cleaning?

They should still be in the package database, so just unmerge them as normal:

unmerge dev-java/htmlparser
unmerge media-libs/divx4linux

Then rebuild any packages where the dependancies got broken:

revdep-rebuild

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread reader
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:15:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  genlop --list --date $(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 |
  sed 's/^ *\(.*\) .*/\1/')
 
 What is it supposed to do?  Here it gets genlops usage message.

 you need to give the name of the package you want to compare against as
 an argument to the script. Sorry, I should have made that clear.

Why would you trim off the date info?


With your find approach, if the package has been uninstalled you'll
find nothing.  

If you were wanting to know if some other behaviour could be dated to
the uninstall of something it would be of no use.

Genlop knows about that kind of stuff.

The perl script searches from the front back and so has grabbed
everthing since argument package.  For example, if a package was
installed and uninstalled several times it would still find the most
recent and everything since.

I didn't really test it much ... did you see something that would
break it?



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[gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?

2005-12-23 Thread Lares Moreau
Does anyone know of a way to have my USB Mouse dynamicly loaded under
Xorg?  

Goal:
Start X, do whatever -  move to place more condusive to haveing an
external mouse, as opposed to my track pad,  Plug in the USB mouse, and
Have it work without haveing to restart X.

Problems: (As I see it)
-Xorg only loads devices at startup. Hence new Pointers like my USBMouse
aren't recognised.

All my pointer work fine, just the way I want them to when I have every
thing plugged in at Xorg startup.

I cannot use /dev/input/mice, as that screws up the configs for the
Mouse/Touchpad.

Any Ideas anyone?
-Lares
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Re: [gentoo-user] nscd; what am I doing wrong?

2005-12-23 Thread Lares Moreau

 There is something strange here
 
 When I lookup www.google.com, I get:
 
 carcharias ~ # host www.google.com
 www.google.com has address 66.102.7.104
 carcharias ~ # host 66.102.7.104
 104.7.102.66.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.google.com.
 
 However for www.google.com, you get 72.14.203.104.  But that address
 doesn't resolve to a host name when I do a reverse lookup.
 
 carcharias ~ # host 72.14.203.104
 104.203.14.72.in-addr.arpa has no PTR record
 
 If I had to make a guess, I would say that your ISP has got some kind
 of proxy service setup that lies to you about the address of
 www.google.com, so that you actually connect through one of their
 servers.
 
google.com isn't a good test case.  They use some Really advanced load
balancing/routing/ localization algorithism for their network.  Best to
use a smaller, single-homed Name for a test.

-Lares
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/23/05, Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know of a way to have my USB Mouse dynamicly loaded under
 Xorg?

If you are using a 2.6 kernel, use /dev/input/mice as your input
device, instead of whatever you are using now.

You can use that as your only input device, or like me, configure it
as an additional input device.

The relevant sections of my xorg.conf are:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default
Screen 0  LCD 0 0
InputDevicetouchpad CorePointer
InputDeviceusbmouse
InputDevicekeyboard CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  touchpad
Driver  synaptics
Option  Device /dev/input/event1
Option  Protocol event
Option  SHMConfig On
Option  LeftEdge 1400
Option  TopEdge 1550
Option  RightEdge 5900
Option  BottomEdge 4350
Option  EdgeMotionUseAlways On
Option  EdgeMotionMinZ 75
Option  EdgeMotionMaxZ 90
Option  EdgeMotionMinSpeed 50
Option  EdgeMotionMaxSpeed 1000
Option  MinSpeed 0.0
Option  MaxSpeed 0.3
Option  AccelFactor 0.3
Option  UpDownScrolling On
Option  LeftRightScrolling Off
Option  Buttons 8
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  usbmouse
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol ExplorerPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  Buttons 8
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  SendCoreEvents On
EndSection

The only tricky thing is that I have to make sure that my trackpad (a
PS/2 mouse) gets setup by the kernel before the USB mouse.  So I build
PS/2 mouse support into my kernel, and load usbhid as a module.  I
also have hibernate reload the usbhid module when I do a
suspend/stanby cycle.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Tom Smith

Peter wrote:


On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:37:33 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

 

Actually, Pro IS the server product... What makes them different is the 
license code. They haven't officially released the Terminal Server 
product yet in that they're not officially advertising it. What I've got 
is the initial release of Pro. And if you look at the User Manual for 
Pro, you'll see a section for the Terminal Server functionality.


   


We disagree. Pro and Server are separate products. Pro is Pro. It is a W4L
version to run W2K and XP only. It is a client product.
 



With respect, officially Pro and Server are separate products--that 
is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product (WTS 
3.0) will only run Win9x.


If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section in it 
pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the Terminal 
Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from 
Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last year 
to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only 
one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will 
try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the 
manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users 
Guide--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information.


http://www.win4lin.com/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,99/Itemid,145/


It's odd you say bad things about Pro. I've seen several other comments
about it and they've all been good. What types of issues are you or
other people having with it?
   



Well, first of all, I _don't_ use it. I had evaluated it. It is dog slow.
You must install kqemu to get any performance out of it. Mercifully, they
included it with the product. However, most reports are that it takes a
long time to load and programs are v e r y slow. Read the forum pages.

Also, you noted that W4L 9x is at version 6? This is incorrect. Version 5
is current. And there _IS_ a win4lin in portage. 5.1.1 is the latest and
current. However note that the kernel patches for 2.6.14 don't exactly
work right. Again read their forum pages.

Win4Lin 9x: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=4
Win4Lin Pro: http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=6

Good luck.
 

Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro 
product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't 
indicate whether it's Pro or Home.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?

2005-12-23 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 23 décembre à 19:19:47 Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| Does anyone know of a way to have my USB Mouse dynamicly loaded under
| Xorg?  

| Goal:
| Start X, do whatever -  move to place more condusive to haveing an
| external mouse, as opposed to my track pad,  Plug in the USB mouse, and
| Have it work without haveing to restart X.

| Problems: (As I see it)
| -Xorg only loads devices at startup. Hence new Pointers like my USBMouse
| aren't recognised.

| All my pointer work fine, just the way I want them to when I have every
| thing plugged in at Xorg startup.

hotplug in the kernel:

CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y

*and* emerge hotplug

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:09:47 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   genlop --list --date $(genlop --nocolor $1 | grep $1 | tail -n 1 |
   sed 's/^ *\(.*\) .*/\1/')
  
  What is it supposed to do?  Here it gets genlops usage message.
 
  you need to give the name of the package you want to compare against
  as an argument to the script. Sorry, I should have made that clear.
 
 Why would you trim off the date info?

To pass to genlop with --date, in order to get a list of all packages
installed after that date.
 
 With your find approach, if the package has been uninstalled you'll
 find nothing.  

Of course. The question was about finding all packages installed after a
particular reference package, in this case gcc. If the reference package
is no longer installed 9impossible with gcc of course) the question
becomes pointless.

 If you were wanting to know if some other behaviour could be dated to
 the uninstall of something it would be of no use.

It would, you'd only have to modify it to use genlop's -u option.

All of this is irrelevant anyway, using genlop and parsing the output is
going round three sides of a square instead of going in a straight line
with find. Using a non-standard bash or perl script to parse the output
of an optional perl script seems rather redundant when you can do it all
with one call to a core command.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamicly Loaded USB mouse under Xorg ?

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:19:47 -0700, Lares Moreau wrote:

 Start X, do whatever -  move to place more condusive to haveing an
 external mouse, as opposed to my track pad,  Plug in the USB mouse, and
 Have it work without haveing to restart X.

This works for me:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceTrackpad CorePointer
InputDeviceUSBMouse SendCoreEvents
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Trackpad
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 
Option  Resolution 64
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  USBMouse
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/input/mouse2
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 
Option  Resolution 64
EndSection

The trackpad works always, the mouse works when it is plugged in, even
after starting X.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux

2005-12-23 Thread Markus Ullmann
capsel wrote:
 As I can see this is PHOTOPAINT, not DRAW. Is there any difference?

Yep there is. Draw is used for Vector Graphics and Photopaint has its
usage in its name ;)

Greets
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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/23/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys, and Holly too,

 I did my gcc upgrade on my servers and I messed up.  I was doing two at
 a time and one is faster then the other.  I unmerged the old gcc BEFORE
 doing the revdep-rebuild on one of them.  I may have really messed up here.

 This is what I get:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev system
  /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Yep, that is pretty hosed. ;-

You can find a libstdc++.so.5 binary in the stage tarballs on the
Gentoo CD, or KNOPPIX, or maybe on one of your other systems.  Just
copy it to /usr/lib, and you should be able to run portage.

You could also try symlinking .5 to .6.  That is a trick that has
worked for me with some libraries, but there are no guarantees there.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] hardware tests

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/23/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 3) Check (not necessarily in this order): MOBO, Processor, memory,
 video. (if you don't have the spares necessary, take it to someone you
 trust and can test the hardware).

It sometimes isn't even necessary to swap out this hardware.  You can
usually go into the BIOS and adjust the memory timings and CPU speeds
to identify the problem.

For example, I just built an AMD x2 system.  But I have had a lot of
trouble getting the system stable.  BIOS wouldn't even post with the
first 2 sticks of RAM running at their rated timings of 2-3-2-6, but
would post fine at 3-4-3-6.  So I replaced those.

Then I couldn't get a compile of ghostscript to complete without
causing a kernel panic...so back into the BIOS I went.  Eventually I
reduced the CPU multiplier from x11 to x10 (2.2 to 2.0 Ghz), and
everything compiled cleanly.  So I exchanged that CPU, and emerge -e
world worked at 2.2Ghz.

Now I should say that the system was still unstable...getting a kernel
panic every few hours.   Actually, I can cause the kernel panic by
saturating the SATA bandwidth (dd if=/dev/zero of=JUNKFILE bs=64k). So
while the replacment hardware has helped, I am currently running it
with the slow memory timings and the x10 multiplier.  I haven't gotten
back to testing the hardware again yet to figure out if the CPU or
memory is still bad, or if the nvidia chipset in the shuttle XPC is
crap, (which is what I truly suspect).

 5) Software is not a good way to test hardware (*IMHO*), the
 exceptions are memtest and some benchmarks.

IMO memtest is almost useless today.  It can tell you if you have a
bad memory cell, which is incredibly rare, but cannot identify the
more common timing or chipset problems.

emerge -e world seems to be the best way to identify faulty hardware!

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Richard Fish wrote:



Yep, that is pretty hosed. ;-

You can find a libstdc++.so.5 binary in the stage tarballs on the
Gentoo CD, or KNOPPIX, or maybe on one of your other systems.  Just
copy it to /usr/lib, and you should be able to run portage.

You could also try symlinking .5 to .6.  That is a trick that has
worked for me with some libraries, but there are no guarantees there.

-Richard

 

I'm going to give that a try.  I looked on my old rig and it is in 
something like /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6.  It didn't work 
then either.  Maybe your way is the correct way.  Some symlink thing or 
something.  I have copies though.  I have two installs, one up to date 
and one a few months old. 

It's funny that the new KDE won't let me copy over fish.  I get a error 
message though.  I have to login to KDE 3.4 to copy over files to my 
servers.  Strange huh?  Guess that is why it is masked.  Guess it is why 
I'm not cleaning out KDE 3.4 too. 


Thanks for the help.  It sort of sucks right now.  :(

Dale
:-)

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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to unmerge all of KDE?

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:30:06 -0600, Paul Varner wrote:

 


For equery, you can use:

equery list kde-base/ 
   



Aha! Nice one, I tried equery list kde-base but got nothing. It seems the
trailing slash makes all the difference, having the same effect as qpkg's
-g. You'll wean me off qpkg completely before long :)


 

THAT was cool.  I can read man pages for something I need to know all 
day long and not get it.  I can do it for someone else though and figure 
it out right away.  I did that on my main rig and that / does make a 
huge difference.  It made a VERY long list on my main rig here.  I have 
KDE 3.4 and 3.5 installed still.


Thanks again, Im learning.

Dale
:-)

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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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[gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild

2005-12-23 Thread John J. Foster
Good evening all,

3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used
gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system,
followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today
I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew 
was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup 
purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually 
yields:

//garbanzo/root #  /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start
 * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ...  * [ !! ]

No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in
/etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the
same.

The following packages have been emerged since upgrading.

 Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005  dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3
 Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005  sys-process/lsof-4.75
 Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005  app-admin/showconsole-1.07
 Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005  sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12
 Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005  sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2
 Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005  net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1

I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of 
these have caused my problems.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
John
 


 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild

2005-12-23 Thread Dan Meltzer
On Friday 23 December 2005 18:22, John J. Foster wrote:
 Good evening all,

 3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used
 gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system,
 followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today
 I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew
 was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup
 purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually
 yields:

 //garbanzo/root #  /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start
  * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ...  * [ !! ]

 No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in
 /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the
 same.

 The following packages have been emerged since upgrading.

  Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005  dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3
  Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005  sys-process/lsof-4.75
  Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005  app-admin/showconsole-1.07
  Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005  sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12
  Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005  sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2
  Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005  net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1

 I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of
 these have caused my problems.

 Does anyone have any ideas?
Try a revdep-rebuild, you may be missing a dependancy.

If this fails, try starting courier-imap manually, instead of via the 
initscript.

 Thanks,
 John
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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread William Kenworthy
Use LD_PRELOAD

get your missing lib and:

gcc-config # of version
fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

BillK




On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 16:25 -0600, Dale wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
 
 
 Yep, that is pretty hosed. ;-
 
 You can find a libstdc++.so.5 binary in the stage tarballs on the
 Gentoo CD, or KNOPPIX, or maybe on one of your other systems.  Just
 copy it to /usr/lib, and you should be able to run portage.
 
 You could also try symlinking .5 to .6.  That is a trick that has
 worked for me with some libraries, but there are no guarantees there.
 
 -Richard
 
   
 
 I'm going to give that a try.  I looked on my old rig and it is in 
 something like /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6.  It didn't work 
 then either.  Maybe your way is the correct way.  Some symlink thing or 
 something.  I have copies though.  I have two installs, one up to date 
 and one a few months old. 
 
 It's funny that the new KDE won't let me copy over fish.  I get a error 
 message though.  I have to login to KDE 3.4 to copy over files to my 
 servers.  Strange huh?  Guess that is why it is masked.  Guess it is why 
 I'm not cleaning out KDE 3.4 too. 
 
 Thanks for the help.  It sort of sucks right now.  :(
 
 Dale
 :-)
 
 -- 
 To err is human, I'm most certainly human.
 
 I have four rigs:
 
 1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now 
 two 80GB hard drives.
 2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
 3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
 drive.
 4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 
 4.3GB SCSI drive.
 
 All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set 
 up as servers.  
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild

2005-12-23 Thread John J. Foster
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:43:40PM -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
 On Friday 23 December 2005 18:22, John J. Foster wrote:
  Good evening all,
 
  3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used
  gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system,
  followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today
  I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew
  was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup
  purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually
  yields:
 
  //garbanzo/root #  /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start
   * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ...  * [ !! ]
 
  No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in
  /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the
  same.
 
  The following packages have been emerged since upgrading.
 
   Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005  dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3
   Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005  sys-process/lsof-4.75
   Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005  app-admin/showconsole-1.07
   Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005  sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12
   Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005  sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2
   Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005  net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1
 
  I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of
  these have caused my problems.
 
  Does anyone have any ideas?
 Try a revdep-rebuild, you may be missing a dependancy.
 
 If this fails, try starting courier-imap manually, instead of via the 
 initscript.

Sorry, I should have stated that I've already done a depclean and
revdep-rebuild.

What is the correct syntax for starting manually? What should I be
looking for?

Thanks,
John


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Re: [gentoo-user] nscd; what am I doing wrong?

2005-12-23 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:26:30AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote

 If I had to make a guess, I would say that your ISP has got some
 kind of proxy service setup that lies to you about the address of
 www.google.com, so that you actually connect through one of their
 servers.
 
 If that is the case, then it is also possible that they set the
 expire time on the DNS responses to expire immediately to prevent
 any local caching of the addresses.

  Probably some load-balancing magic by Google...

Searching for 72.14.203.104 in whois.arin.net

OrgName:Google Inc.
OrgID:  GOGL
Address:1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
City:   Mountain View
StateProv:  CA
PostalCode: 94043
Country:US

NetRange:   72.14.192.0 - 72.14.239.255
CIDR:   72.14.192.0/19, 72.14.224.0/20
NetName:GOOGLE
NetHandle:  NET-72-14-192-0-1
Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.GOOGLE.COM
NameServer: NS2.GOOGLE.COM
Comment:
RegDate:2004-11-10
Updated:2005-07-01

 You might test with a less popular address, something that is unlikely
 to be cached/proxied by your ISP.
 
 Anyway nscd appears to be setup and working correctly.  Ping connected
 to the nscd socket, and did not send any DNS queries directly.  So
 your end looks like it is setup and working correctly.

  More proof that it works... I tried connecting to a Yahoo forum, and
got a negative response for messages.yahoo.com on the first try.  The
negative cache feature certainly worked.  Several retries failed as
well.  I set negative-time-to-live hosts 2 and re-started nscd, and
the forum now works.  I'm obviously able to specify a shorter negative
cache time.  Is there any way for nscd to over-ride the maximum TTL from
the DNS server for a positive hit?

  On a more positive note, ZDNet forums seem much snappier now.  They've
been slow in the past, 3 megabits ADSL notwithstanding.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild

2005-12-23 Thread Dan Meltzer
On Friday 23 December 2005 19:38, John J. Foster wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:43:40PM -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
  On Friday 23 December 2005 18:22, John J. Foster wrote:
   Good evening all,
  
   3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used
   gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev
   system, followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I
   thought. Today I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The
   only reason I knew was because my wife uses this box to store her sent
   mail for backup purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to
   start it manually yields:
  
   //garbanzo/root #  /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start
* Starting courier-imapd over SSL ...  * [ !! ]
  
   No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files
   in /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the
   same.
  
   The following packages have been emerged since upgrading.
  
Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005  dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3
Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005  sys-process/lsof-4.75
Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005  app-admin/showconsole-1.07
Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005  sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12
Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005  sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2
Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005  net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1
  
   I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of
   these have caused my problems.
  
   Does anyone have any ideas?
 
  Try a revdep-rebuild, you may be missing a dependancy.
 
  If this fails, try starting courier-imap manually, instead of via the
  initscript.

 Sorry, I should have stated that I've already done a depclean and
 revdep-rebuild.

 What is the correct syntax for starting manually? What should I be
 looking for?

I've never used courier/imap, but if you look in the init file 
(in /etc/init.d/ ) in the start() function, you should see the command it 
runs.  Try running that on the command line

 Thanks,
 John
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[gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!

2005-12-23 Thread Glenn Enright
To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be 
a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all.

Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas!
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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

William Kenworthy wrote:


Use LD_PRELOAD

get your missing lib and:

gcc-config # of version
fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

BillK


 


That didn't work.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
-bash: fix_libtools.sh: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #



I'm not sure what happened there.  I'm about to copy some filesover now 
to see if it will work.


Dale
:-)


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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers.  


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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Dan Meltzer
On Friday 23 December 2005 23:20, Dale wrote:
 William Kenworthy wrote:
 Use LD_PRELOAD
 
 get your missing lib and:
 
 gcc-config # of version
 fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
 LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3
 
 BillK

 That didn't work.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
  -bash: fix_libtools.sh: command not found
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
fix_libtool_files.sh

 I'm not sure what happened there.  I'm about to copy some filesover now
 to see if it will work.

 Dale

 :-)

 --
 To err is human, I'm most certainly human.

 I have four rigs:

 1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now
 two 80GB hard drives. 2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs
 of ram and a 4GB drive. 3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU,
 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad
 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.

 All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are
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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Dan Meltzer wrote:


On Friday 23 December 2005 23:20, Dale wrote:
 


William Kenworthy wrote:
   


Use LD_PRELOAD

get your missing lib and:

gcc-config # of version
fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libstdc++.so.5 emerge sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

BillK
 


That didn't work.

   


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtools.sh old_gcc_version
-bash: fix_libtools.sh: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 


fix_libtool_files.sh
 


I'm not sure what happened there.  I'm about to copy some filesover now
to see if it will work.

Dale

:-)


   

Typo ???  Anyway, I copied the file and one link over and it is working, 
at least I can emerge anyway.  I did a emerge -ev system.  See what that 
breaks.  LOL



[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # fix_libtool_files.sh
-bash: fix_libtool_files.sh: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #




I dunno.  o_O  Maybe I borked a lot more than I thought.  It compiling 
now though.


Thanks
Dale
:-)


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1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Lares Moreau
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 10:51 -0600, Dale wrote:
 Hi guys, and Holly too,
 
 I did my gcc upgrade on my servers and I messed up.  I was doing two at 
 a time and one is faster then the other.  I unmerged the old gcc BEFORE 
 doing the revdep-rebuild on one of them.  I may have really messed up here.
 
 This is what I get:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ev system
  /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: 
  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
 
 It doesn't matter what I tell it to do, I get that same error.  I did a 
 portage rescue but still no go.  How do I fix this?  It's a old AMD rig 
 so I guess some x86 rescue tarball would work.  If such a creature exists.
 
 I have been messing with this for a while.  I'm going to nap a while.  
 I'm tired and my neck is sore too.
 
 Thanks
 
 :-)
I might be easier to just backup all your Data, configs and other Info,
and rebuild from scratch.
Next quickpkg it from one server to the others if the Rigs are
identical.

-Lares

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!

2005-12-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote:
 Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas!

Thanks!

Blessed Solstice to All!
(A bit late...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!

2005-12-23 Thread Dan Meltzer
On Friday 23 December 2005 23:53, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote:
  Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas!

 Thanks!

 Blessed Solstice to All!
 (A bit late...)
And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also!

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Re: [gentoo-user] I messed up my gcc upgrade, badly I think.

2005-12-23 Thread Dale

Lares Moreau wrote:



I might be easier to just backup all your Data, configs and other Info,
and rebuild from scratch.
Next quickpkg it from one server to the others if the Rigs are
identical.

-Lares

 

Oh dear.  That sounds like windoze.  LOL  I have four computers here and 
one of them has two versions of Gentoo, one new and one a few months 
old.  I just copied the files over that it needed and it is doing a 
emerge -ev system at the moment.  I'm hoping that will fix what I messed 
up.  I'm pretty sure it will though.


For the record though.  The file is a link to another file.  You have to 
copy them both over at the same time or copy the file then the link to it.


That is a sure fix but I don't want to loose the foldingathome data that 
I have.  In the past when I copy it over to another rig, it never works 
right until I re-install folding. 


Dale
:-)

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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
SCSI drive.

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[gentoo-user] adsl-usb-modem question

2005-12-23 Thread nacho nacho
Hi, I am installing an adsl-usb-modem (conexant chipset). I have some
questions about:
(1) what is the interface nas0 and does it have anithing to do with
gentoo or with the modem?
(2) item (1) with sit0
(3) An installation script ask me to enter the ethernet inerface
connected to the adsl modem, but the modem is usb, so, which interface
is supposed to be? (here i put nas0 but then the error nas0:
unknown interface: No such device is output)
(4) If i fail to install the modem, i wanted to know if anybody would
like to help me (through telnet) to install it (hopefully, the best
option to me).

There is very little (and poor) doc about the installation of this
modem on linux, so almost everything is very obscure to me. Thanks for
answers and/or suggestions (even though they are little ones). Marry
Christmas! Bye

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[gentoo-user] adsl-usb-modem question

2005-12-23 Thread nacho nacho
Hi, I am installing an adsl-usb-modem (conexant chipset). I have some
questions about:
(1) what is the interface nas0 and does it have anithing to do with
gentoo or with the modem?
(2) item (1) with sit0
(3) An installation script ask me to enter the ethernet inerface
connected to the adsl modem, but the modem is usb, so, which interface
is supposed to be? (here i put nas0 but then the error nas0:
unknown interface: No such device is output)
(4) If i fail to install the modem, i wanted to know if anybody would
like to help me (through telnet) to install it (hopefully, the best
option to me).

There is very little (and poor) doc about the installation of this
modem on linux, so almost everything is very obscure to me. Thanks for
answers and/or suggestions (even though they are little ones). Marry
Christmas! Bye

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