Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild

Paul S. Bains wrote:

You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc  space.


Well, the code _can_ be loaded, without being executed, and therefore 
taking up RAM.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander Skwar
Paul S. Bains wrote:

 You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc  
 space.

That's not correct. It offers the potential of being
executed and thus, it offers the potential of being
a security threat. Thus it is better to NOT have the
code around at all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync vs emerge -sync

2006-01-22 Thread Michael Kintzios
 From:: Charles Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user]  emerge --sync vs emerge -sync
 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:16:18 -0500

 This may be the ultimate dumb question, but no amount of googling could 
 satisfy my ignorance...
 
 Is there any difference? If not, why are the double hyphens almost 
 always specified?

AFAIK the emerge sync is now depracated and the emerge --sync is the way to go.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Palm Tungsten T5 help needed

2006-01-22 Thread Heinz Sporn
Am Samstag, den 21.01.2006, 18:48 +0100 schrieb Stefan Onken:
 Hello,
 
 I am fighting now for a very long time to get my Palm T5 sync under 
 Linux. Unfortunately without any success, so maybe someone can 
 point me into the right direction. Ok, here is my setup:
 
 1) kernel
 Linux stonki 2.6.13-gentoo-r5 #3 SMP Thu Jan 12 21:24:53 CET 2006 
 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ AuthenticAMD 
 GNU/Linux
 
 CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=y
 CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=y
 CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
 
 2) Udev

I have a working Tungsten E and it seems to me that you are suffering
from an UDEV problem. Here's what I got:

/etc/udev/rules.d/10-visor.rules:
KERNEL==ttyUSB[0-9]*, NAME=tts/USB%n, GROUP:=usb, MODE:=0666
BUS==usb, SYSFS{product}==Palm Handheld*, KERNEL=ttyUSB[13579],
SYMLINK=pilot, MODE:=0666, GROUP:=usb

/etc/udev/permissions.d/10-visor.permissions:
ttyUSB*:root:usb:0666
tts/[0-9]*:root:usb:0666
tts/USB[0-9]*:root:usb:0666
pilot:root:usb:0666

With that I am able to just use /dev/pilot regardless of which ttyUSB is
really created. Before I forget: I put myself in the usb group.

 sys-fs/udev-070-r1 
 # PalmOne Tungsten T3
 BUS=usb,SYSFS{serial}=12345467893ABC,NAME=pilot,OWNER=root,GROUP=tty,MODE=0660
 #
 # This works for one user's Handspring Visor.  Put the desired user 
 in the usb group.
 KERNEL=ttyUSB[01]*,  NAME=tts/USB%n, GROUP=usb, MODE=0660
 3) System
 stonki portage # rc-update -s | grep hotplug
  hotplug | boot
 
 So, an up-to-date Kernel with Visor support, Udev is installed and 
 the hotplug daemon is running
 
 --
 
 4) I am now connecting the T5 to the computer without (!) pressing 
 anything !
 
 stonki portage # udevinfo -p /sys/class/tty/ttyUSB3 -a
 [...]
 DRIVER==visor
 [...]
 SYSFS{product}==palmOne Handheld
 SYSFS{serial}==504E35424D35543556305848
 
 
 5) I am creating a new file in /etc/udev/rules.d
 tonki rules.d # cat 10-udev.rules
 # PalmOne Tungsten
 BUS=usb,SYSFS{serial}=504E35424D35543556305848,NAME=pilot,OWNER=root,GROUP=tty,MODE=0660
 #
 # This works for one user's Handspring Visor.  Put the desired user 
 in the usb group.
 KERNEL=ttyUSB[0123]*,  NAME=tts/USB%n, GROUP=usb, MODE=0660
 
 6) am using the unstable pilot-link version (the stable did not work 
 for me as well), but still no success:
 
 a) I am attaching the T5 without (!) pressing the sync button. 
 In /var/log/messages it says:
 
 Jan 21 18:44:22 stonki visor 2-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
 converter detected
 Jan 21 18:44:22 stonki usb 2-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
 now attached to ttyUSB2
 Jan 21 18:44:22 stonki usb 2-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
 now attached to ttyUSB3
 
 
 b) a /dev/pilot gets created
 stonki rules.d # ls -als /dev/pilot
 0 crw-rw  1 root tty 188, 2 Jan 21 18:44 /dev/pilot
 
 
 c) stonki rules.d # pilot-xfer -p /dev/pilot --list
Listening for incoming connection on /dev/pilot...   
 
 d) Pressing Hotsync
 Jan 21 18:45:53 stonki visor 2-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
 converter detected
 Jan 21 18:45:53 stonki usb 2-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
 now attached to ttyUSB4
 Jan 21 18:45:53 stonki usb 2-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
 now attached to ttyUSB5
 
 
 WHY I am getting USB4 and USB5 ? 
 
 e) of course it does NOT work
 
 
 any idea ?
 
 Thanks Stonki
 
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[gentoo-user] Captive requires gnome?

2006-01-22 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi All,

I am trying to emerge Captive but it wants to pull in some gnome dependencies.  
Is there a way of avoiding this on a non-gnome machine?

# emerge -upDv captive

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  -debug 829 kB 
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1  -debug -doc -static 1,326 kB 
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl 
-ipv6 -samba +ssl 1,860 kB 
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/ntfsprogs-1.11.2  -debug -fuse -gnome 742 kB 
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/fuse-2.4.1-r1  375 kB 
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/captive-1.1.7  -debug -gtk +readline 2,825 kB 

Total size of downloads: 7,960 kB

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Derek Tracy
All right, my turn to congratulate KDE on doing such a fine job.

--rant arg=slight--

I have been using Linux (Gentoo at that) for over 6 yrs.  During that
time I have tried Gnome, KDE, and XFCE off and on.  After spending
some time with each (2-3 weeks) I would always go back to a plain
window manager (Openbox or FVWM).

For the last 2yrs I had been using FVWM and had went to a lot of work
to get my desktop completely customized to how I liked it, then KDE
3.5 came out and I decided to give it a shot, especially since I had
been doing some reading about KDE 4 and was totally amazed by Plasma
and how they are planning on interfacing with DBUS / HAL.  I must say
combining the easy configurability of KDE and the unbloatfullness of
split ebuilds.  KDE is now just about perfect for me, my only 2
complaints that I have so far (1 being Amarok and not KDE) are I wish
KDE 3.5 was a little faster but that should get fixed with 4.x and I
wish that Amarok handled Podcasts with more flexibility and allowed me
to create playlists and such automaticlaly on my iPod (problem solved
by not using Amarok and using bashpodder / gnupod).

KDE has been a great experience and I can see why Linus prefers it
over Gnome (I used to enjoy Gnome more than KDE).  This all being said
I am very excited to see what KDE dev's come up with next (maybe a
good Arts successor).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Captive requires gnome?

2006-01-22 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Вск, 2006-01-22 at 12:19 +, Michael Kintzios wrote:

 I am trying to emerge Captive but it wants to pull in some gnome
  dependencies.  Is there a way of avoiding this on a non-gnome machine?

You may find out this by yourself. Just look into
`less /usr/portage/sys-fs/captive/captive-1.1.7.ebuild`.

DEPEND variable list all dependencies that are required. So if you look
there you'll see that gnome-base/libbonobo, gnome-base/gnome-vfs and
some other things are required from maintainer's pov :) If you think
maintainer is wrong report about this issue on bugs.gentoo.org.

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[gentoo-user] 3dlabs Wildcat Realizm

2006-01-22 Thread Álvaro Castro
Hello all!!

I just purchased a 3dlabs Wildcat Realizm card, and I
only would like to know if there is someone who had
ever used under linux. They have drivers, but I'm
having really big problems with their precompiled
drivers

It comes with a sh script that takes care of systems's
requirements and then: tail -n 98 to say from here
this is a tar file and it tries to untar the
precompiled driver. Tweakeing I made it work (because
it was made for Redhad Enterprise 4). Now the problem
says that tar file has obsolete 64-bits headers or
something like that. In any case I don't want to do
this kind of investigations any time a new driver is
released or I update the system...

So, any one uses Wildcat Realizm?

Thank you very much!

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[gentoo-user] gthumb 2.6.8 doesn't save images anymore

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello!

Since a few days, gthumb doesn't save changed images anymore. When I
try to save an image as jpeg, it creates a 0 byte file. When I try to
save a PNG, it does the same and, as a bonus :), it crashes.

A while back, this used to work.

I also tried to recompile gthumb - didn't help... :(

Which additional information should I provide?

I'm also interested to find out, if somebody else has seen this
malfunction. If so, I'd post a bug.

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Paul S. Bains
Uncompiled code is not loaded into ram because it is only text. The  
exception is when you are editing it..! Unless I've been compiling all  
these years for no reason...:) Code must actually be compiled into a  
binary and called in one way or another to be loaded into ram.


If you mean compiled, unused code can be loaded into ram, that is  
correct, but there is nothing the user can do about that - it's a  
function of the application: not all compiled code gets ran at a given  
time, because perhaps not all functions are being utilized at any given  
moment - depends on the program.


On 01/22/06 03:47:12, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote:

Paul S. Bains wrote:
You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc   
space.


Well, the code _can_ be loaded, without being executed, and therefore  
taking up RAM.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Paul S. Bains
Perhaps I misunderstood the poster - unused, uncompiled code cannot be  
loaded into RAM, unless you editing it. Unused compiled code can, but  
that is beyond the realm of the user. If the developer has functions  
that are not ever being used, then that's the developer's fault.


On 01/22/06 03:55:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:

Paul S. Bains wrote:

 You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc

 space.

That's not correct. It offers the potential of being
executed and thus, it offers the potential of being
a security threat. Thus it is better to NOT have the
code around at all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Paul S. Bains
I forgot interpreted code - maybe that's what the original poster  
meant. I am used to only working with compiled binaries only.


On 01/22/06 08:47:38, Paul S. Bains wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstood the poster - unused, uncompiled code cannot  
be loaded into RAM, unless you editing it. Unused compiled code can,  
but that is beyond the realm of the user. If the developer has  
functions that are not ever being used, then that's the developer's  
fault.


On 01/22/06 03:55:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:

Paul S. Bains wrote:

 You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc

 space.

That's not correct. It offers the potential of being
executed and thus, it offers the potential of being
a security threat. Thus it is better to NOT have the
code around at all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 1/22/06, Paul S. Bains [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Uncompiled code is not loaded into ram because it is only text. The
 exception is when you are editing it..! Unless I've been compiling all
 these years for no reason...:) Code must actually be compiled into a
 binary and called in one way or another to be loaded into ram.

 If you mean compiled, unused code can be loaded into ram, that is
 correct, but there is nothing the user can do about that - it's a
 function of the application: not all compiled code gets ran at a given
 time, because perhaps not all functions are being utilized at any given
 moment - depends on the program.

 On 01/22/06 03:47:12, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote:
  Paul S. Bains wrote:
  You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc
  space.
 
  Well, the code _can_ be loaded, without being executed, and therefore
  taking up RAM.
 
  -Kristian Poul Herkild

In the time this thread has been going I managed to compile and start
KDE for the first time in years. (I'm a Gnome user mostly) My
impressions:

1) It seems HUGE. Menus full of so many apps

2) It appears to be very configurable.

3) It seemed to run nicely in most cases.

4) It crashed X on my P4HT machine when exiting. Gnome was running ina
first login. I started a new session from xscreensaver's New Login
button and chose KDE. When exiting KDE I couldn't get back to
xscreensaver or a console. Logging in remotely and restarting xdm
didn't help. I had to do a complete shutdown -h now.

5) I have not tried it with Jack to see if it would hurt my audio
work, but it might be OK for my wife and son on a day to day basis.
Unfortunately I wouldn't know the answers to their configuration
questions and it might be more trouble than it's worth. (To me...)

Not sure I have the stomach to keep something this large up to date. I
couldn't find kde-light, as I'm a Gnome-light user mostly.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander Skwar
Paul S. Bains wrote:
 Perhaps I misunderstood the poster - unused, uncompiled code cannot be  
 loaded into RAM, unless you editing it. 

Yep.

 Unused compiled code can, but  
 that is beyond the realm of the user.

No, it's not. IIRC, this thread at some point of time was
about setting USE flags. With USE flags, the user can control
what gets compiled and what not.

 If the developer has functions  
 that are not ever being used, then that's the developer's fault.

Or the packagers, for not proving enought options of what
gets installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:57:17 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Not sure I have the stomach to keep something this large up to date.

emerge -uavDN world

Keeping KDE up to date is no more or less effort than keeping GNOME up to
date.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 3dlabs Wildcat Realizm

2006-01-22 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:04:53 +0100 (CET)
Álvaro Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So, any one uses Wildcat Realizm?


No, but I did use a VP970 for awhile.  The problem you;ll
have is that Gentoo moves much faster than 3DLabs, and
much faster than Xig, which used to supply the Linux driver
for the older 3DLabs card (technically, the Xserver as well).

3DLabs, somewhat like ATI is more concerned with their WinXX
customers - the big OEMS, big dmedia customers, and others where
they can make the most of Marketing messages, and sell numerous cards.

Nvidia is like this as well, but internally, has a large base of Linux using
developers - not Linux specific developers, but devs that won't use other
operating systems.  Thus tended to get through the Linux ramp-up for drivers
really fast as it had a large self-interest.

So expect to have to stay on the same kernel/Xorg for a really long time.  Best
to switch over to just updating for GLSA issues and running a really stable
system.  And then when you do upgrade, expect to have to deal with the issue
again.  Most of 3DLabs' base will buy a set of systems and cards for a specific
project, and after the 3 yrs or so the project runs, move on to the next 
project, at
which time they will update the software and probably hardware as well.

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[gentoo-user] How to activate PC speaker with kernel 2.6.14?

2006-01-22 Thread saf
Hi,

I have a problem.
I can't use my pc speaker, but I know the speaker works because when 
booting my PC I hear the check biip. :-)

I installed the program beep (emerge beep), but I hear nothing!
I don't get errors.

Does sombebody knows how to activate the pc speaker?
Is there a kernel option for it?

Here a strace output of beep:

julia saf # id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) 
groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy),18(audio),20(dialout),26(tape),27(video)
julia saf # strace beep 
execve(/usr/bin/beep, [beep], [/* 50 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=julia, ...}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x804b000
access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=109008, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 109008, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7f0b000
close(3)= 0
open(/lib/tls/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320Q\1..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1203608, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 1150172, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 
0) = 0xb7df2000
mmap2(0xb7f05000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x112) = 0xb7f05000
mmap2(0xb7f09000, 7388, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7f09000
close(3)= 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb7df1000
mprotect(0xb7f05000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
mprotect(0xb7f3b000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7df1aa0, 
limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, 
limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0
munmap(0xb7f0b000, 109008)  = 0
open(/dev/urandom, O_RDONLY)  = 3
read(3, 5\241)\21, 4) = 4
close(3)= 0
brk(0)  = 0x804b000
brk(0x806c000)  = 0x806c000
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8049040, [INT], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
open(/dev/console, O_WRONLY)  = 3
ioctl(3, KIOCSOUND, 0xa97)  = 0
nanosleep({0, 2}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(3, KIOCSOUND, 0)  = 0
close(3)= 0
exit_group(0)   = ?
Process 15082 detached

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 1/22/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:57:17 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

  Not sure I have the stomach to keep something this large up to date.

 emerge -uavDN world

 Keeping KDE up to date is no more or less effort than keeping GNOME up to
 date.


 --
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Certainly no more effort, but it seems that it's possibly much more 
compute time which would get in the way of me running real time audio
on my machines. For my wife and son's machines it's a non-issue. I'd
let them choose which they prefer, with the caveat that should they
have a problem with somethign I'm not running they are a bit more on
their own. No big deal.

Is there no 'kde-light' to get me the environment without all the
zillions of apps, etc.?

Thanks Neil!

cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to activate PC speaker with kernel 2.6.14?

2006-01-22 Thread Alexander Skwar
saf wrote:

 Does sombebody knows how to activate the pc speaker?
 Is there a kernel option for it?

Yes, there is. You need to enable CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR.
Or if you have it compiled as a module, you need to
load it - pcspkr.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to activate PC speaker with kernel 2.6.14?

2006-01-22 Thread Michael Mauch
saf wrote:

 I can't use my pc speaker, but I know the speaker works because when 
 booting my PC I hear the check biip. :-)
 
 I installed the program beep (emerge beep), but I hear nothing!
 I don't get errors.
 
 Does sombebody knows how to activate the pc speaker?
 Is there a kernel option for it?

Yes, CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR (in make menuconfig you can search with /
to find out in which menu it is). The modul is called pcspkr.
 
Regards...
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Re: [gentoo-user] ogle fails to read dvd

2006-01-22 Thread PaulNM

maxim wexler wrote:

Hello everyone,

Here's the error(same as from root prompt):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ogle
WARNING[dvd_gui]: add_keybinding(): No such action:
'SaveScreenshot'
WARNING[dvd_gui]: add_keybinding(): No such action:
'SaveScreenshotWithSPU'
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD
access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
ERROR[ogle_nav]: faild to open/read the DVD
callbacks.on_opendvd_activate(): DVDSetDVDRoot: Root
not set

Yes, there is a proper symlink:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/dvd
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 Jan 17 02:17 /dev/dvd - hdd

Have tried chmod# 666 and 755 /dev/hdd.

User's groups:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ groups
wheel audio cdrw usb users portage

but,

sarawak heathen # usermod -G dvd heathen
usermod: unknown group dvd

Is it an ownership issue?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/hdd
brwxr-xr-x  1 root cdrom 22, 64 Jan 17 02:17 /dev/hdd

but #chown root:dvd /dev/hdd doesn't work.

-mw



You might want to try ogle /dev/hdd to see if directly accessing the 
drive works. Another thing to try is ogle --check which Runs a few 
checks on the dvd setup and exits to see if any problems are reported 
there. Another option is ogle --debug /dev/hdd which puts out more info.


No offense, but are you sure a readable video dvd is in the drive, 
because I get the same output when I run ogle without a dvd.  Can you 
mount the dvd normally and see the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS directories? 
Also make sure the dvd isn't mounted already when running ogle because 
that won't work.


Hope this helps,
PaulNM

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to activate PC speaker with kernel 2.6.14?

2006-01-22 Thread saf
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 05:17:50PM +0100, Michael Mauch wrote:
 saf wrote:
 
  I can't use my pc speaker, but I know the speaker works because when 
  booting my PC I hear the check biip. :-)
  
  I installed the program beep (emerge beep), but I hear nothing!
  I don't get errors.
  
  Does sombebody knows how to activate the pc speaker?
  Is there a kernel option for it?
 
 Yes, CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR (in make menuconfig you can search with /
 to find out in which menu it is). The modul is called pcspkr.

Thanks very much!
I found it:
 Location:
 - Device Drivers
   - Input device support
 - Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...) (INPUT [=y])
   - Miscellaneous devices (INPUT_MISC [=n])
 - PC Speaker support

It very good hidden! :-)

I think that if the module is not loaded, programs should make an error message.

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[gentoo-user] Re: xine is in glsa-check but doesn't emerge

2006-01-22 Thread Michael Mauch
I wrote:

 Hmm. What's up here? If I try to emerge ffmpeg, it happily re-emerges
 ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216, but if I want to emerge xine-lib, it says that
 ~media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051120 is masked?

I figured it out: there is a xine-lib-1.1.1-r3.ebuild in one of the
overlays (gentoo.de), and that ebuild depends on
~media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051120. Going to complain to gentoo.de.

Regards...
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to activate PC speaker with kernel 2.6.14?

2006-01-22 Thread Bill Roberts
On 16:51 Sun 22 Jan , saf wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a problem.
 I can't use my pc speaker, but I know the speaker works because when 
 booting my PC I hear the check biip. :-)
 
 I installed the program beep (emerge beep), but I hear nothing!
 I don't get errors.
 
 Does sombebody knows how to activate the pc speaker?
 Is there a kernel option for it?

Setting this kernel option should take care of it:

Symbol: INPUT_MISC [=n] 
   │   
  │ Prompt: Miscellaneous devices   
   │   
  │   Defined at drivers/input/misc/Kconfig:4   
   │   
  │   Depends on: INPUT 
   │   
  │   Location: 
   │   
  │ - Device Drivers   
   │   
  │   - Input device support   
   │   
  │ - Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...) (INPUT 
[=y])

Not very obvious, is it?

Good luck

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 22 January 2006 16:57, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Is there no 'kde-light' to get me the environment without all the
 zillions of apps, etc.?

Yes, with kde split ebuilds it's actually possible to build a light kde 
system. Just emerge kdebase-startkde and build from there adding the 
apps you need (usually, kicker, konsole and konqueror are enough to give 
you an usable desktop, but I must admit that the notion of usable is 
very subjective; anyway, I hope you get the idea).

In fact, you can have a functional kde desktop by installing no more than 
20-30 applications among the zillions you mentioned before :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world?

2006-01-22 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Michael,
on Tuesday, 2006-01-17 at 20:18:16, you wrote:
 Plone in portage hasn't changed in a very long time. I recommend you 
 get the new ebuilds from 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105187 and install them, then 
 put your comments in that bug to let the devs know that it's working.
 
 Or, if you want, you can modify the 1.0.4 ebuild to accept poppler.

I just switched to the unstable portaltransforms for now, and all is
fine. Otherwise I'd have had to use portage overlays and thing swould
have been more complicated -- the unstable version seems to be only
this fix and a minor patch ahead so it's probably less problematic than
stable.

regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP and Problematic IP addreses

2006-01-22 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Ow,
on Wednesday, 2006-01-18 at 09:22:06, you wrote:
  you have a DHCP server you don't control (@work?) 
 
 Yes.
  and it's not giving
  you the IP you want but something else---abd in what way?
 
 it's giving me an IP, just not a good One. (upstream connection is bad)

Well, what exactly is wrong with this IP? Is it from a different subnet?
Or is it just that the router isn't set correctly, so you see all other
machines in the local net but can't get out? Or does the router refuse
to route packets from parts of the subnet and you get an address in this
part?

  I'd think if the DHCP server gives you an andress that doesn't work in
  your subnet then it's a server configuration issue and should be fixed
  there.
 
 yeah.. Unfortunately, I have no administrative control over it. :-(

If you tell the guy in charge that you'll use a static IP as long as he
doesn't get the server fixed, I think that will be a motivation :)

Sorry for the late reply!
cheers,
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[gentoo-user] emerge mc: undefined reference to `write_socket'

2006-01-22 Thread saf
Hi all,

thanks for your support on this mailing list.
Gentoo is a very great Linux distribution.

I have a question about Midnight Commander:
I can't emerge mc because of a compiler error.
Does somebody knows how to fix it?
I tried already to remove samba in the USE flags, but it changes nothing.

When I try to emerge mc, I get this error:

i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -mar
ch=athlon-xp -O9 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse -fomit-frame-pointer -funrol
l-loops -m3dnow -I/usr/include/gssapi -Wall   -o man2hlp  man2hlp.o -lglib-2.0  
 
../vfs/libvfs-mc.a(smbfs.o): In function `chkpath':
smbfs.c:(.text+0x5867): undefined reference to `write_socket'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mc] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mc-4.6.0-r14/work/mc-4.6.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mc-4.6.0-r14/work/mc-4.6.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2

My make.conf file:
# Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.conf.x86,v 1.5 2004/10/10 
23:27:28 carpaski Exp $
# Contains local system settings for Portage system

# Please review 'man make.conf' for more information.

# Build-time functionality
# 
#
# The USE variable is used to enable optional build-time functionality. For
# example, quite a few packages have optional X, gtk or GNOME functionality
# that can only be enabled or disabled at compile-time. Gentoo Linux has a
# very extensive set of USE variables described in our USE variable HOWTO at
# http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1
#
# The available list of use flags with descriptions is in your portage tree.
# Use 'less' to view them:  -- less /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc --
#
# 'ufed' is an ncurses/dialog interface available in portage to make handling
# useflags for you. 'emerge app-portage/ufed'
#
# Example:

USE=kde gtk2 gnome java alsa 3dnow dvd cdr emacs usb tetex ipv6 truetype 
javascript dvdr X aalib aac acl acpi aim msn arts bash-completion bmp bzip2 
crypt cups dga dri dvdread encode ethereal fortran ftp gb gif gmp gpm guile 
gnustep gphoto2 imlib javascript jpeg kdeenablefinal libwww lm_sensors mbox 
mime mmap mono mp3 mpeg msn mysql ncurses nls oci8 ogg opengl pdflib perl png 
posix python qt readline quicktime samba scanner sdl ssl slang soap speex spell 
sse svga nptl vcd videos truetype unicode usb v4l vorbis win32codecs wmf 
wxwindows xine xface xml2 xmms xpm yahoo zlib gcj objc

# Host Setting
# 
#
# Change this line as appropriate (i686, i586, i486 or i386).
# All modern systems (even Athlons) should use i686-pc-linux-gnu.
# All K6's are i586.
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu

# Host and optimization settings 
# ==
#
# For optimal performance, enable a CFLAGS setting appropriate for your CPU.
#
# Please note that if you experience strange issues with a package, it may be
# due to gcc's optimizations interacting in a strange way. Please test the
# package (and in some cases the libraries it uses) at default optimizations
# before reporting errors to developers.
#
# -mcpu=cpu-type means optimize code for the particular type of CPU without
# breaking compatibility with other CPUs.
#
# -march=cpu-type means to take full advantage of the ABI and instructions
# for the particular CPU; this will break compatibility with older CPUs (for
# example, -march=athlon-xp code will not run on a regular Athlon, and
# -march=i686 code will not run on a Pentium Classic.
#
# CPU types supported in gcc-3.2 and higher: athlon-xp, athlon-mp,
# athlon-tbird, athlon, k6, k6-2, k6-3, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
# (PentiumPro), pentium, pentium-mmx, pentiumpro, pentium2 (Celeron),
# pentium3, and pentium4.
#
# Note that Gentoo Linux 1.4 and higher include at least gcc-3.2.
# 
# CPU types supported in gcc-2.95*: k6, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
# (Pentium Pro), pentium, pentiumpro Gentoo Linux 1.2 and below use gcc-2.95*
#
# CRITICAL WARNINGS: ** #
# K6 markings are deceptive. Avoid setting -march for them. See Bug #24379. #
# Pentium-M CPU's should not enable sse2 until at least gcc-3.4. Bug 50616. #
# * #
#
# General CFLAGS variable
#
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O9 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse 
-fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -m3dnow

# To compile valgrind:
# CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe

#CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe

# If you set a CFLAGS above, then this line will set your default C++ flags to
# the same settings.

CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

# Advanced Masking
# 
#
# Gentoo is using a new masking system to allow for easier stability testing
# on packages. KEYWORDS are used in ebuilds to mask and unmask packages 

[gentoo-user] DVD movie playing issues

2006-01-22 Thread fire-eyes
I am having problems playing DVD movies. The Movies are:
 Bourne Identity
 Primus - Hallucinogenetics concert

Both of these work on my desktop system, also running gentoo with the same
USE flags in mplayer and xine.

This is a brand new IBM Thinkpad T43, running gentoo.

Here's what we get with Bourne Identity with mplayer:

$ mplayer dvd://
MPlayer dev-CVS-060102-02:04-3.4.5 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Pentium M Dothan (Family: 6, Stepping: 8)
MMX2 supported but disabled
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with
--disable-runtime-cpudetection.


89 audio  203 video codecs
Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
Try adding echo 1024  /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq to your system
startup scripts.
Playing dvd://.
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access
Reading disc structure, please wait...
There are 31 titles on this DVD.
There are 21 chapters in this DVD title.
There are 1 angles in this DVD title.
libdvdread: Invalid title IFO (VTS_01_0.IFO).
Cannot open the IFO file for DVD title 1.
[file] No filename
Failed to open dvd://

And with xine:

$ xine dvd://
This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.3.
(c) 2000-2004 The xine Team.
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access
libdvdread: Attempting to use device /dev/sda3 mounted on / for CSS
authentication
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/sda3 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/sda3 for reading
libdvdread: Device /dev/sda3 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdnav:DVDOpenFilePath:findDVDFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdnav:DVDOpenFilePath:findDVDFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access

libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient

libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x01fc
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x055f
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0xb593
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x002cd1a0
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB (0x002cd1a0)
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x002cd1a4
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB (0x002cd1a4)!!
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_0.VOB at 0x002fd702
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_0.VOB (0x002fd702)
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x002fd706
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB (0x002fd706)!!
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x0031b396
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB (0x0031b396)
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x0031b39a
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB (0x0031b39a)!!
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_0.VOB at 0x003a9f6e
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_0.VOB (0x003a9f6e)
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x003a9f72
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB (0x003a9f72)!!
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_0.VOB at 0x003c4850
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_0.VOB (0x003c4850)
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x003c4854
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB (0x003c4854)!!
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_0.VOB at 0x003c4872
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_0.VOB (0x003c4872)
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x003c4a88
libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB (0x003c4a88)!!
libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
[ snip ]

Which goes on for a while. Eventually it plays the warning screens,
tries to move on
and there is a massive flood of:

*** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:669 ***
*** for pgc-cell_position_offset != 0 ***


*** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:649 ***
*** for pgc-nr_of_programs = pgc-nr_of_cells ***


*** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:667 ***
*** for pgc-program_map_offset != 0 ***


*** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:668 ***
*** for pgc-cell_playback_offset != 0 ***


*** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:669 ***
*** for pgc-cell_position_offset != 0 ***


*** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:649 ***
*** for pgc-nr_of_programs = pgc-nr_of_cells ***


*** 

Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Sunday 22 January 2006 17:38, Derek Tracy wrote:

 wish that Amarok handled Podcasts with more flexibility and allowed me
 to create playlists and such automaticlaly on my iPod (problem solved
 by not using Amarok and using bashpodder / gnupod).

Check back with amaroK 1.4 and you will have that feature :)


 KDE has been a great experience and I can see why Linus prefers it
 over Gnome (I used to enjoy Gnome more than KDE).  This all being said
 I am very excited to see what KDE dev's come up with next (maybe a
 good Arts successor).

The will probably be dropping aRts in KDE 4

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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge mc: undefined reference to `write_socket'

2006-01-22 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 22 January 2006 18:11, saf wrote:
 CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O9 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse
 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -m3dnow

Fix your cflags.

For example:
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -mmmx -Os -m3dnow -pipe
Should suffice.

-O3 and -O2 make sense, 'O'ptimizations over 3 are not meaningful.

Ciao
Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mc: undefined reference to `write_socket'

2006-01-22 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On (22/01/06 18:11), saf wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 thanks for your support on this mailing list.
 Gentoo is a very great Linux distribution.
 
 I have a question about Midnight Commander:
 I can't emerge mc because of a compiler error.
 Does somebody knows how to fix it?
 I tried already to remove samba in the USE flags, but it changes nothing.
 
 When I try to emerge mc, I get this error:
 
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   
 -mar
 ch=athlon-xp -O9 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse -fomit-frame-pointer 
 -funrol
 l-loops -m3dnow -I/usr/include/gssapi -Wall   -o man2hlp  man2hlp.o 
 -lglib-2.0  
  
 ../vfs/libvfs-mc.a(smbfs.o): In function `chkpath':
 smbfs.c:(.text+0x5867): undefined reference to `write_socket'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [mc] Error 1
 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mc-4.6.0-r14/work/mc-4.6.0/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mc-4.6.0-r14/work/mc-4.6.0'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 ...SKIP...
 #
 # -mcpu=cpu-type means optimize code for the particular type of CPU without
 # breaking compatibility with other CPUs.
 #
 # -march=cpu-type means to take full advantage of the ABI and instructions
 # for the particular CPU; this will break compatibility with older CPUs (for
 # example, -march=athlon-xp code will not run on a regular Athlon, and
 # -march=i686 code will not run on a Pentium Classic.
 #
 # CPU types supported in gcc-3.2 and higher: athlon-xp, athlon-mp,
 # athlon-tbird, athlon, k6, k6-2, k6-3, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
 # (PentiumPro), pentium, pentium-mmx, pentiumpro, pentium2 (Celeron),
 # pentium3, and pentium4.
 #
 # Note that Gentoo Linux 1.4 and higher include at least gcc-3.2.
 # 
 # CPU types supported in gcc-2.95*: k6, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
 # (Pentium Pro), pentium, pentiumpro Gentoo Linux 1.2 and below use gcc-2.95*
 #
 # CRITICAL WARNINGS: ** #
 # K6 markings are deceptive. Avoid setting -march for them. See Bug #24379. #
 # Pentium-M CPU's should not enable sse2 until at least gcc-3.4. Bug 50616. #
 # * #
 #
 # General CFLAGS variable
 #
 CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O9 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387 -mmmx -msse 
 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -m3dnow
Try with more sane CFLAGS, at least replace -O9 with -O2, IMHO you could remove 
-mmmx,-m3dnow,-msse 
(haven't checked but think some of them are assumed when using 
-march=athlon-xp). Check the docs.
 
 # To compile valgrind:
 # CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
 
 #CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe
 
 # If you set a CFLAGS above, then this line will set your default C++ flags to
 # the same settings.
 
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
 ...SKIP...
 # for parallel makes is CPUs+1.
 
 MAKEOPTS=-j2
Very rarely but sometimes i had to compile something with -j1
 ...SKIP...
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[gentoo-user] emerge --buildpkgonly world won't go: kde metapackage problem?

2006-01-22 Thread Robert Persson
I am trying to emerge --buildpkgonly -u world, but it won't go:

zebedee ~ # emerge --buildpkgonly -u world
Calculating world dependencies ...done!

!!! --buildpkgonly requires all dependencies to be merged.
!!! Cannot merge requested packages. Merge deps and try again.


However when I only pretend to do it I get no errors:

zebedee ~ # emerge --pretend --buildpkgonly -u world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/mm-sources-2.6.16_rc1-r2
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/libperl-5.8.7 [5.8.6-r1]
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.7-r3 [5.8.6-r8]
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20051223 [20051113]
...etc...etc...etc...


The reason I want to avoid installing straight away is because I'm doing a kde 
upgrade this time (3.4.3 to 3.5) and want to avoid a broken desktop, but 
could kde in fact be the very source of the problem? Is emerge getting 
confused by the split kde metafiles again?

Or does the problem lie somewhere else?

Thanks people!
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --buildpkgonly world won't go: kde metapackage problem?

2006-01-22 Thread Zac Medico
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Robert Persson wrote:
 The reason I want to avoid installing straight away is because I'm doing a 
 kde 
 upgrade this time (3.4.3 to 3.5) and want to avoid a broken desktop

Generally, this isn't a problem because kde slots allow multiple versions of 
kde to be installed simultaneously.  There is some documentation here: 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:57:15 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

  Keeping KDE up to date is no more or less effort than keeping GNOME
  up to date.

 Certainly no more effort, but it seems that it's possibly much more 
 compute time which would get in the way of me running real time audio
 on my machines.

Not since the introduction of the split ebuilds. It was true with the
monolithic ebuilds that updating one program required you to rebuilds a
large chunk of KDE, but that's no longer the case. If anything, I expect
it is much less work for the computer than a similar update for GNOME,
because the KDE packages are much more fine-grained now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --buildpkgonly world won't go: kde metapackage problem?

2006-01-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:21:59 -0800, Robert Persson wrote:

 zebedee ~ # emerge --buildpkgonly -u world
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 
 !!! --buildpkgonly requires all dependencies to be merged.
 !!! Cannot merge requested packages. Merge deps and try again.

Many dependencies are required at compile time as well as runtime, so the
dependent package cannot be built until the dependency is installed.
Building the package for the dependency is not enough.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --buildpkgonly world won't go: kde metapackage problem?

2006-01-22 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Sunday 22 January 2006 23:51, Robert Persson wrote:

 The reason I want to avoid installing straight away is because I'm doing a
 kde upgrade this time (3.4.3 to 3.5) and want to avoid a broken desktop,
 but could kde in fact be the very source of the problem? Is emerge getting
 confused by the split kde metafiles again?

I don't know the solution to the buildpkg problem but moving to KDE 3.5 should 
not break your desktop. KDE 3.5 is slotted to install along with 3.4.3. Thus, 
while you will install 3.5, you will still have the existing KDE 3.4.3.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Need help getting packages available.

2006-01-22 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Friday 20 January 2006 15:52, Dale wrote:

 Still wish I had etcat though.  :-(

It is located here on my system.
/usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.2_pre2/deprecated/etcat/etcat

If you like the script so much then just copy the script to somewhere safe, 
where portage cannot take it away from you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy? Software Products

2006-01-22 Thread maxim wexler


--- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Use the root password - it's looking for root's

no workee

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-22 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
 
 
find directory -name '*' -exec fgrep -l search phrase \{\} \;

This search all files for the search phrase.
 
 
 Using find with a separate call to grep for each seems a slow way to do
 things. What's wrong with fgrep -r ?
 
 fgrep -lr 'search phrase' directory
 
 
As it turns out, nothing!  I was aware of fgrep but had never checked it
out.  Is simpler and, it seems, a little faster than the find invocation.

Thanks Neil, time to modify my tips file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy? Software Products

2006-01-22 Thread maxim wexler
 about this same problem. 
 Can you post output of emerge -pv cups and emerge


Thanks Abhay,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -pv cups

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4  -cjk -gnutls
-nls* +pam -samba -slp +ssl 0 kB 

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

 --info

Gentoo Base System version 1.6.12
Portage 2.0.53 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6,
glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 i686 AMD Sempron(tm)
Processor 3100+
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1,
1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.18-r1
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.4/env
/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown
/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref
/usr/share/config
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo
/etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks nostrip sandbox sfperms
strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo;
MAKEOPTS=-j2
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 16bit 3dnow X alsa apm arts audiofile avi
bzip2 cdparanoia cdr cups curl debug dvd dvdread
encode fam fat firefox flac foomaticdb ftp gdb gdbm
gif glx gpm gtk gtk2 ieee1394 imlib ipv6 java
javascript jpeg lame libg++ libwww mad mmx mng motif
mozilla mp3 mpeg mplayer ncurses ntfs ogg oggvorbis
opengl oss pam pdflib perl png posix python qt
quicktime readline reiserfs sdl sse ssl svga tcpd tiff
truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb verbose
vorbis win32codecs wma xml2 xmms xv zlib userland_GNU
kernel_linux elibc_glibc
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS,
LINGUAS

BTW...

This error is returned consistently:

E [22/Jan/2006:11:53:45 -0700] StartListening: Unable
to find IP address for server name sarawak - Unknown
host

but cupsd.conf defaults to localhost, right?

Also it gives unknown directive when I uncomment the
debug levels('debug2' and 'debug') in cupsd.conf

and

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ lpr docs/misc/whatevs
lpr: error - no default destination available.

and

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dmesg|grep -i printer
parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 610C

yes, the proper ppd driver is installed in
/usr/share/cups/model


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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy? Software Products

2006-01-22 Thread John Jolet

This error is returned consistently:

E [22/Jan/2006:11:53:45 -0700] StartListening: Unable
to find IP address for server name sarawak - Unknown
host


if sarawak is the name of the box in question, adjust the line in / 
etc/hosts for 127.0.0.1 to include sarawak.

but cupsd.conf defaults to localhost, right?

Also it gives unknown directive when I uncomment the
debug levels('debug2' and 'debug') in cupsd.conf

and

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ lpr docs/misc/whatevs
lpr: error - no default destination available.

and

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dmesg|grep -i printer
parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 610C

yes, the proper ppd driver is installed in
/usr/share/cups/model


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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy? Software Products

2006-01-22 Thread maxim wexler

 Give root as username and root password.

OK, now we're getting somewhere. Apologies to Brent
Holcomb who suggested the same. I did try root earlier
and it didn't work -- must have used wrong pw.

So ran Administrative Tasks and added printer but now
lpr does nothing; no print; no message. And from the
cups error log

E [22/Jan/2006:12:35:45 -0700] PID 6581 stopped with
status 22!

I'll google that and see what I can find.


 
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[gentoo-user] Re: vim USE flag: vim-with-x

2006-01-22 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
* Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22/01/06 06:14]:
   The one thing I find painful in my setup is copying text from the X
 session to a text session or visa versa.  I end up opening vim in X,
 saving the selected text to ~/x, switching to a text console, and then
  :r ~/x
 in vim.  At work, where I have to use Windows (ptui) I can copy text
 from the GUI to the clipboard, {ALT-TAB} to a vim session, and paste the
 clipboard with * even if vim is running in a textmode console.  Is
 there some similar channel for vim in linux?

If you just set DISPLAY correctly before you run vim (usually ':0.0'), 
you can do it the same. You can even use the mouse (if you use gpm)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 January 2006 19:35, Abhay Kedia wrote:

 The will probably be dropping aRts in KDE 4

Make that certainly. Arts is dead.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD movie playing issues

2006-01-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Sunday 22 January 2006 12:35, a tiny voice compelled fire-eyes to write:
 I am having problems playing DVD movies. The Movies are:
  Bourne Identity
  Primus - Hallucinogenetics concert

 Both of these work on my desktop system, also running gentoo with the same
 USE flags in mplayer and xine.

 This is a brand new IBM Thinkpad T43, running gentoo.


Can you mount and read a data CD in that drive? SCSI disk support in your 
kernel?

$ cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep BLK_DEV_SR
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set

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[gentoo-user] Connection blocking

2006-01-22 Thread Mikhail Yarmish
Some time ago, when I was making socket server with python I could 
connect to it via another computer from my network. Now I can't but I 
haven't emerged anything like iptables. I haven't make emerge --sync, 
also. So the question is - what can block any connects from the another 
computers in the same network?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-22 Thread Dimitar Toshev
On Friday 20 January 2006 19:44, Phil Sexton wrote:
 Michael A Smith wrote:
  Phil Sexton wrote:
  Felipe Ribeiro wrote:
  Where do I find the list with all installed packages?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Felipe
 
  The ones you emerged are listed in the file:
 
  /var/lib/portage/world
 
  Want it in alphabetical order?
 
  cat /var/lib/portage/world|less
 
  Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why not
 
  less /var/lib/portage/world
 
  -Mike

 Oops! I was actually thinking:

 sort /var/lib/portage/world|less

 This gives the listing in alphabetical order, what I previously
 posted doesn't alphabetize it.

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No, no. You have gotten it all wrong. /var/lib/portage/world lists only 
manually installed packages.
e.g.: If you do not have X installed and do
emerge gnome
X will be pulled in as a dependency, along with a whole lot of other stuff, 
but only gnome will be written in world, because that is the package you 
manually emerged. This is why in order upgrade your whole system you have to 
do emerge -u -D world. -D makes emerge check for the given packages' 
dependencies as well. Though this means, that if you have a package 
installed, that is not listed in world, nor is a dependency of anything in 
world, it will never get picked up by portage. It has been stated, that the 
devs will probably implement an all keyword in portage, at some point, so 
that one can more efficiently check for updates to all packages, instead of 
only those in world and their dependencies.

To answer the original question:
Portage keeps information about all emerged pacakges in /var/db/pkg .
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE without ARTS

2006-01-22 Thread Ian
This is exactly what I am wanting to do. But I see that it will end up notallowing me to use system notifications. I found this link on the bug report.But I am not at all sure how to apply it.
Thanks very much!The genkdesvn ebuilds use a patch that allows notifications and
sounds through external player even when kdelibs is compiled with
--without-arts. Some of us(atleast one person other than me) have been
using the patch since 2 months and have experienced no problems.
Mario(the author of the ebuilds) even modified the patch to allow
simultaneous sounds(the new kernels support this). Here is a link to
the patch.



http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/genkdesvn/trunk/kde-base/kdelibs/files/kdelibs-7-knotify-noarts.patch?op=filerev=0sc=0



~IanOn 1/21/06, Peter Volkov (pva) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Сбт, 2006-01-21 at 14:55 -0500, James Colby wrote: I have been looking through the list archives and haven't found an answer to my question.I have compiled KDE 3.5 with alsa -arts in
 my make.conf.Now is it possible to hear System Notifications, by using an external audio player.I have set up an external audio player in Kcontrol, but I still can not hear System Notifications.
Because this does not work.http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99246Peter.-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux)
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[gentoo-user] SOLVED sort of: DVD movie playing issues

2006-01-22 Thread fire-eyes
The dvd drive came regionless so I had to set it.

Now I'm getting different software related issues, but at least it's not
hardware anymore.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-22 Thread Phil Sexton

Dimitar Toshev wrote:

On Friday 20 January 2006 19:44, Phil Sexton wrote:


Michael A Smith wrote:


Phil Sexton wrote:


Felipe Ribeiro wrote:


Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

Felipe


The ones you emerged are listed in the file:

/var/lib/portage/world

Want it in alphabetical order?

cat /var/lib/portage/world|less


Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why not

less /var/lib/portage/world

-Mike


Oops! I was actually thinking:

sort /var/lib/portage/world|less

This gives the listing in alphabetical order, what I previously
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No, no. You have gotten it all wrong. /var/lib/portage/world lists only 
manually installed packages.

e.g.: If you do not have X installed and do
emerge gnome
X will be pulled in as a dependency, along with a whole lot of other stuff, 
but only gnome will be written in world, because that is the package you 
manually emerged. This is why in order upgrade your whole system you have to 
do emerge -u -D world. -D makes emerge check for the given packages' 
dependencies as well. Though this means, that if you have a package 
installed, that is not listed in world, nor is a dependency of anything in 
world, it will never get picked up by portage. It has been stated, that the 
devs will probably implement an all keyword in portage, at some point, so 
that one can more efficiently check for updates to all packages, instead of 
only those in world and their dependencies.


To answer the original question:
Portage keeps information about all emerged pacakges in /var/db/pkg .


nit-pickDon't you mean all compiled packages rather than 
emerged packages?/nit-pick


As I understand it, all emerged packages are listed in the world 
file, and all packages that are installed and compiled 
dependencies are listed in the /var/db/pkg file.


It wasn't completely clear to me which was meant by installed 
and I took it as the packages installed by emerging them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Tony Davison
On Sunday 22 January 2006 20:05, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 22 January 2006 19:35, Abhay Kedia wrote:
  The will probably be dropping aRts in KDE 4

 Make that certainly. Arts is dead.

Where are we having the wake. I'll chip in for a few beers, I'd like to make 
sure its properly buried.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ogle fails to read dvd[SOLVED]

2006-01-22 Thread maxim wexler

 there. Another option is ogle --debug /dev/hdd
 which puts out more info.
 

hmm, it wants to be run as root.
don't need to be root to play CDs.

#chown username:cdrom /dev/hdd

that's what I like :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE without ARTS

2006-01-22 Thread James Colby
Thanks for the link.  I just gave in and re-enable arts for KDE. 
Sound is working now.

On 1/22/06, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is exactly what I am wanting to do. But I see that it will end up not
 allowing me to use system notifications. I found this link on the bug
 report.
 But I am not at all sure how to apply it.
 Thanks very much!

 The genkdesvn ebuilds use a patch that allows notifications and sounds
 through external player even when kdelibs is compiled with --without-arts.
 Some of us(atleast one person other than me) have been using the patch since
 2 months and have experienced no problems. Mario(the author of the ebuilds)
 even modified the patch to allow simultaneous sounds(the new kernels support
 this). Here is a link to the patch.

 http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/genkdesvn/trunk/kde-base/kdelibs/files/kdelibs-7-knotify-noarts.patch?op=filerev=0sc=0

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 1/22/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:57:15 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

   Keeping KDE up to date is no more or less effort than keeping GNOME
   up to date.

  Certainly no more effort, but it seems that it's possibly much more
  compute time which would get in the way of me running real time audio
  on my machines.

 Not since the introduction of the split ebuilds. It was true with the
 monolithic ebuilds that updating one program required you to rebuilds a
 large chunk of KDE, but that's no longer the case. If anything, I expect
 it is much less work for the computer than a similar update for GNOME,
 because the KDE packages are much more fine-grained now.


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Good info. Thanks.

I was sort of amazed (on the downside) that a couple of packages, like
kdepim, took a huge amount of time. I *think* I wouldn't have this
installed so it wouldn't be an issue. I suppose I need to look at all
the KDE packages to determine what might be a reasonable subset to
use. Assuming I did equesry correctly I get this right now:

lightning ~ # equery -i list kde
[ Searching for package 'kde' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 (0)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.3-r10 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.3-r3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3-r1 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.3 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1 (3.4)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1 (3.4)
lightning ~ #

It seems like at least kdeedu, kdegames, kdepim  kdetoys wouldn't
leave me missing really obvious stuff, at least from the names. It
would seem that kdeadmin, kdebase, kdebase-pam, kdelibs, kdemultimedia
 possibly kdeutils would be keepers. The rest I don't have an
uneducated opinion on. ;-)

Thanks for your help!

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Toby 'qubit' Cubitt
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 12:56:47AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Saturday 21 January 2006 00:44, Alan E. Davis wrote:
  May I ask others' experiences with e17?  I just wasted my holiday
  installing e17 on two of three machines.  It is smaller than Kde, but
  background is 20% of cpu .  Buggy.  Beautiful.  A PITA to configure,
  and menus suck. I don't think I'll be there long.   I liked
  enlightenment .16 except I guess I really do need icons to remind me
  of what I've got on the system, and good menus.

 that was exactly how I felt. All the problems to get it installed, and than 
 it 
 was such a bad thing to configureuse, that I deinstalled it some days later. 
 I used earlier enlightenment incarnations as my main desktop for some time, 
 back, when KDE 2.X was dead slow, but when KDE 3 came out, enlightenment lost 
 its appeal. 

That's a bit unfair on e17, given that it's still pre-release
software. It is indeed buggy at the moment (though I should add I
haven't had any problems with more recent CVS installations), but
that's to be expected in a pre-release, and you're warned about it in
big red letters when you emerge it.

It is also a PITA to configure at the moment, but graphical menu
managers, keybinding editors, icon creaters, desktop icons, etc. are
planned before the release version, and every CVS checkout seems to
add more graphical configuration options at the moment, and reduce the
number of times I resort to the enlightenment-remote shell command.

Finally, on my ancient Pentium2 450, it uses 2-3% of cpu. In fact, I
find it more responsive than e16. So I'm not sure where the 20% comes
from. Maybe you've enabled lots of the processor intensive eye-candy,
like animated backgrounds or the snow or flames modules? Or you just
need to update to a more recent CVS release.

Without wishing to start a flame war, it's unfair to the developers to
give the impression that their software doesn't work very well without
at least mentioning it's pre-release (and therefore not expected
to!). And really, criticising it at all for being buggy and lacking
features is a little unfair. If you're not prepared to put up with
some rough edges, wait for the official release version.


Just to put in a good word for e17 to balance the discussion...

Personally, I prefer enlightenment to KDE or gnome because I don't
like the whole integrated desktop approach. I prefer my window manager
to manage windows, and leave me free to run whichever apps I like. My
ideal window manager has nothing at all on the desktop (except maybe a
wallpaper to gaze at when nothing's running), no gizmos taking up
desktop real-estate, an easy way to run my most frequently used apps
and some way to get at any others I might need occasionally, some way
to navigate between running apps, and as much as possible of this
should be manageable from the keyboard (with completely configurable
keybindings). If it does all this and looks beautiful at the same
time, so much the better!

I find that, of the traditional window managers, enlightenment comes
closest to this ideal (though I admit I've never tried FLuxbox or
IceWM - I stopped looking when I found I was happy with
enlightenment). Since a lot of e17 features are written as modules, I
can choose not to load (or often not to install) them, so only those
features I want take up disc space and memory (it's the gentoo
way!). For instance, I don't bother loading e17's start menu.
(what's the point when I have ibar and keybindings to run the apps I
use most, and the run dialogue for the rest?). But it's there for
those who want it. E17 has completely configurable keybindings, even
if they're a pain to configure at the moment, and the
enlightenment-remote command line...err...command is fantastic for
getting shell scripts to interact with the window manager.

If you've read all that, you'll not be surprised I also like ratpoison
;-) But I haven't used it long enough to get used to it yet. And I've
not got beyond installing ion yet.

Window managers are very much a personal choice, and there is no
right decision, except try out a few and decide for yourself. Which
means it's worth at least being aware that there are plenty of other
choices apart from KDE and gnome, if you're not happy with them
(unlike a certain other OS, where there's not even a single
alternative ;)


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[gentoo-user] cups -- more clues?

2006-01-22 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everybody,

Time to log out; expecting a phone call.

So far I re-emerged cups and emerged foomatic. Set up
the printer again using localhost:631-Admin
tasks-add printer. No complaints. Then I set cups
debug level to stun in cupsd.conf, restarted cupsd 
tried lpr test.txt

In the cups/error_log

lots of the following; sure enough there's no
/usr/share/cups/docs/favicon.ico

snip

d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700]
decode_auth(0xb7aed008): Authorization string = Basic
cm9vdDp3YXMlaGlw
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] decode_auth: 6
username=root
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] IsAuthorized: con-uri
= /favicon.ico
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] FindBest: uri =
/favicon.ico...
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] FindBest: Location /
Limit 7f
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] FindBest: Location
/admin Limit 7f
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] FindBest: best = /
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] IsAuthorized: auth = 0,
satisfy=0...
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] get_file: 6
filename=/usr/share/cups/docs/favicon.ico size=-1
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] SendError: 6 code=404
(Not Found)
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] CloseClient: 6
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:11 -0700] CloseClient: Removing
fd 6 from InputSet and OutputSet...

snip

D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] ESP Ghostscript
7.07.1: Can't start ijs server hpijs
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9]  Unable to
open the initial device, quitting.
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] renderer return
value: 1
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] renderer
received signal: 1
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Process dying
with Possible error on renderer command line or
PostScript error. Check options., exit stat: 3
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Possible error
on renderer command line or PostScript error. Check
options.
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] tail process
done writing data to STDOUT
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] KID4 finished
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] KID3 exited
with status 3
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Renderer exit
stat: 3
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Renderer
process finished
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Killing process
16457 (KID3)
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Process dying
with Error closing renderer, exit stat: 3
D [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] [Job 9] Error closing
renderer
E [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] PID 16455 stopped with
status 3!
d [22/Jan/2006:17:37:12 -0700] PID 16456 exited with
no errors.

snip

d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700]
ProcessIPPRequest(0xb7aefc3c[8]): operation_id = 
000e
d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest:
URI=ipp://localhost/jobs/9
d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700]
restart_job(0xb7aefc3c[8], ipp://localhost/jobs/9
)
E [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] restart_job: job #9
cannot be restarted - no file
s!
d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700]
send_ipp_error(0xb7aefc3c[8], 404)
D [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] Sending error:
client-error-not-possible
D [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest: 8
status_code=404
d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest:
Adding fd 8 to OutputSet...
d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] WriteClient: Removing
fd 8 from OutputSet...
d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:32 -0700] PID 16532 exited with
no errors.

snip

It says no files! Not true, unless it means some
other file than the one I tried to print.

Went back to Admin tasks. The print job had been
aborted. When I tried a re-start got

client-error-not-possible

e-u later

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Re: [gentoo-user] ogle fails to read dvd[SOLVED]

2006-01-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:36:59 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:

 hmm, it wants to be run as root.
 don't need to be root to play CDs.
 
 #chown username:cdrom /dev/hdd

udev will probably reset this to root:cdrom when you reboot. the correct
solution is to make yourself a member of the cdrom group.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How many people use KDE?

2006-01-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:12:09 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 It seems like at least kdeedu, kdegames, kdepim  kdetoys wouldn't
 leave me missing really obvious stuff, at least from the names. It
 would seem that kdeadmin, kdebase, kdebase-pam, kdelibs, kdemultimedia
  possibly kdeutils would be keepers. The rest I don't have an
 uneducated opinion on. ;-)

These are the monolithic ebuilds, kdepim for example contains kmail,
kontact and quite a few others. Use the split ebuilds to merge just what
you need.

It's a little confusing because the split and monolithic ebuilds are all
in the same category, kde-base.


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[gentoo-user] any one else seeing this?

2006-01-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
!!! Digest verification Failed:
!!!/usr/portage/dev-python/pygtk/pygtk-2.8.2.ebuild
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

Going to re sync and try again.

 Please ensure you have sync'd properly. Please try 'emerge sync' and
 optionally examine the file(s) for corruption. A sync will fix most cases.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Full Squid Cache

2006-01-22 Thread Norberto Bensa
Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 19 January 2006 03:01, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I have a slight problem, my squid cache is full and hence I cant
  browse any websites through the proxy. How does one get squid to clean
  out old items? 

 Go to /etc/squid/squid.conf and change the
 last number for cache_dir from 256 to 1024 or 2048. Don't forget to
 uncomment that line. Restart squid. That should do it.

I don't the answer but yours will only make squid cache bigger. That's not 
what OP was asking.

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Re: [gentoo-user] any one else seeing this?

2006-01-22 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Ernie Schroder:
 !!! Digest verification Failed:
 !!!/usr/portage/dev-python/pygtk/pygtk-2.8.2.ebuild
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

 Going to re sync and try again.

  Please ensure you have sync'd properly. Please try 'emerge sync' and
  optionally examine the file(s) for corruption. A sync will fix most
  cases.

Yeah, generally this is when the distfile for a package has been upgraded, but 
the ebuild in your portage tree has not. I am sure the sync will fix the 
issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] any one else seeing this?

2006-01-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Sunday 22 January 2006 23:01, a tiny voice compelled darren kirby to write:
 quoth the Ernie Schroder:
  !!! Digest verification Failed:
  !!!/usr/portage/dev-python/pygtk/pygtk-2.8.2.ebuild
  !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 
  Going to re sync and try again.
 
   Please ensure you have sync'd properly. Please try 'emerge sync' and
   optionally examine the file(s) for corruption. A sync will fix most
   cases.

 Yeah, generally this is when the distfile for a package has been upgraded,
 but the ebuild in your portage tree has not. I am sure the sync will fix
 the issue.

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 -d
I resynced and still no joy
Another bit of wierdness I noticed while skipping pygtk anddoing updates 
gtt-plugins was upgraded to version  0.8.11then downgraded to 0.8.10 then 
back to 0.8.11 and my 4th try wants to downgrade it again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gthumb 2.6.8 doesn't save images anymore

2006-01-22 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 23 January 2006 02:47, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hello!

 Since a few days, gthumb doesn't save changed images anymore. When I
 try to save an image as jpeg, it creates a 0 byte file. When I try to
 save a PNG, it does the same and, as a bonus :), it crashes.

 A while back, this used to work.

 I also tried to recompile gthumb - didn't help... :(
Sounds like some of the dependancies of gthumb may have changed on your 
system. 

You can figure out the dependencies with ldd
eg; #ldd /sbin/udev
linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7dd)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f07000)

Are any of the files you get related to packages you updated/downgrades 
recently? are they made available in /etc/portage/package.* which might 
indicate using unstable builds?

Just some ideas. not to sure otherwise
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-22 Thread michael

Thanks for your reply, Simon. Answers follow:


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Simon Kellett wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously
something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in
particular.

Any suggestions?


Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !


Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer
either.





Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog?


I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and
receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However,
when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI -
you have to buy a card that supports both !!


Ok, that might not be so bad.
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Re: [gentoo-user] any one else seeing this?

2006-01-22 Thread Norberto Bensa
Ernie Schroder wrote:
 Another bit of wierdness I noticed while skipping pygtk anddoing updates
 gtt-plugins was upgraded to version  0.8.11then downgraded to 0.8.10 then
 back to 0.8.11 and my 4th try wants to downgrade it again.

Yup. I saw this with: 

[ebuild UD] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.9007 [3.0002_p4] 0 kB

If I downgrade, next emerge -puvD world will want to upgrade, the next time 
it will downgrade, next upgrade, next.. you got the picture.

I didn't report this as a bug since I'm running ~x86. If you're running 
stable, it's a bug.



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Re: [gentoo-user] cups -- more clues?

2006-01-22 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 23 janvier à 02:32:18 maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| Hello everybody,

| Time to log out; expecting a phone call.

| So far I re-emerged cups and emerged foomatic. Set up
| the printer again using localhost:631-Admin
| tasks-add printer. No complaints. Then I set cups
| debug level to stun in cupsd.conf, restarted cupsd 
| tried lpr test.txt

The standard cups command is lp,not lpr (but cups understands the latter)


[...]


| D [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] Sending error:
| client-error-not-possible
| D [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest: 8
| status_code=404
| d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest:
| Adding fd 8 to OutputSet...
| d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:31 -0700] WriteClient: Removing
| fd 8 from OutputSet...
| d [22/Jan/2006:18:01:32 -0700] PID 16532 exited with
| no errors.

| snip

| It says no files! Not true, unless it means some
| other file than the one I tried to print.

| Went back to Admin tasks. The print job had been
| aborted. When I tried a re-start got

| client-error-not-possible

My experience is that you can *often* settle that with
# lpadmin -u allow:all

(as I said in previous post sometimes the web interface says something is
correctly configured but it is not really :-( )
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[gentoo-user] hal-0.5.5.1-r3 dependency loop

2006-01-22 Thread Beau E. Cox
Hi -

Looks like there is a dependency loop with the
recently unmasked hal-0.5.5.1-r3. If I:

$emerge -uD world
...
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.60-r3 [0.23.4-r1]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.5.1-r3 [0.4.8]
...

When done, I check with:

# revdep-rebuild -p
...
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.60-r3 [0.23.4-r1]
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.5.1-r3
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1
[ebuild UD] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.5.5.1-r3]
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/ivman-0.5_pre2
Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run revdep-rebuild.

If I remove the -p and do it, hal-0.5.5.1-r3
pops up in 'emerge -uD world' and on and on
and on...

I guess I'll just unmerge hal and friends,
remove hal from my use, and rebuild with
--newuse, etc. unless someone has a better idea.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE without ARTS

2006-01-22 Thread Ian
Good to hear its working.But can someone tell me how to apply the patch?Thanks!~IanOn 1/22/06, James Colby 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for the link.I just gave in and re-enable arts for KDE.
Sound is working now.On 1/22/06, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is exactly what I am wanting to do. But I see that it will end up not allowing me to use system notifications. I found this link on the bug
 report. But I am not at all sure how to apply it. Thanks very much! The genkdesvn ebuilds use a patch that allows notifications and sounds through external player even when kdelibs is compiled with --without-arts.
 Some of us(atleast one person other than me) have been using the patch since 2 months and have experienced no problems. Mario(the author of the ebuilds) even modified the patch to allow simultaneous sounds(the new kernels support
 this). Here is a link to the patch. http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/genkdesvn/trunk/kde-base/kdelibs/files/kdelibs-7-knotify-noarts.patch?op=filerev=0sc=0
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Re: [gentoo-user] which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-22 Thread Mark Loeser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously
 something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in
 particular.
 
 Any suggestions?

I have two of these LCDs and got an Nvidia 6600 with two DVI connectors.  I
haven't had a problem with it yet, and it didn't cost that much.

 Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog?

Definitely digital.  Before I got the other card I had one monitor hooked up
to analog and the other digital and the difference was very obvious to me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Full Squid Cache

2006-01-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 23 January 2006 05:26, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Uwe Thiem wrote:
  On 19 January 2006 03:01, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
   Hi all
  
   I have a slight problem, my squid cache is full and hence I cant
   browse any websites through the proxy. How does one get squid to clean
   out old items?
 
  Go to /etc/squid/squid.conf and change the
  last number for cache_dir from 256 to 1024 or 2048. Don't forget to
  uncomment that line. Restart squid. That should do it.

 I don't the answer but yours will only make squid cache bigger. That's not
 what OP was asking.

You didn't read the rest of my reply. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-22 Thread Dale
On Saturday 21 January 2006 03:48, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:51:03 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote:
  Just a shot in the dark, but try cleaning /tmp directory.
  Sometimes there's cruft left in it which messes with new options.

 While trying that, clear /var/tmp too.


I deleted those and it still sends the wrong login/passwd.  What now  It 
sends the wrong one with Kppp, ppp's pon, and wvdial.  I didn't even have 
exceedtech set up with wvdial and it still sent the exceedtech login/passwd.

This is rediculous.  Someone please tell me I don't have to do a clean install 
to get this to work.

Could this be stored in my modem somehow???  It's a old timey USR Courier V 
Everything modem.  Serial of course.

Dale
:-)

Now to see if I can send email with this connection today.  Well crap, back to 
Kmail for this connection.  sighs 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts

2006-01-22 Thread Dale
On Saturday 21 January 2006 06:29, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:56:07 -0600, Dale wrote:
  While trying that, clear /var/tmp too.
 
  Just do a rm -rf /var/tmp/*   There is a kde-root, kde-dale,
  kde-dale2 and kde-test folder in there.

 As long as none of these users are logged into KDE at the time, it
 should be fine.


I deleted those files, same thing.  It still sends the wrong ligin/password.  

Me so confused.  It doesn't even connect when I am booted from the CD.  Could 
this be in my modem somehow?  It's about the only thing left for goodness 
sake.  I have another modem.  I may try it.  See what it does.

Dale
:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 01:05 -0500, Mark Loeser wrote:

  Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog?
 
 Definitely digital.  Before I got the other card I had one monitor hooked up
 to analog and the other digital and the difference was very obvious to me.

Don't believe everything you see!! I had two identical Dell LCD's hooked
up to one dual head (2x analog) video card, and they both looked
different - one was much brighter.

After noticing that the auto button did different things to each one
(colour, etc) I set them up manually to the same colour, brightness, etc
and they still looked different...
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups -- more clues?

2006-01-22 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Monday 23 January 2006 07:02, maxim wexler wrote:

 In the cups/error_log

Did you set LogLevel to debug2 in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf?
If not try it and then see what errors you get. Also double check whether you 
set atleast one printer as default.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Full Squid Cache

2006-01-22 Thread Norberto Bensa
Uwe Thiem wrote:
 You didn't read the rest of my reply. ;-)

 Uwe

I must be missing something. This is all I got:

Uwe Thiem wrote:
 Squid does that. Do you go with the default configuration of squid? That
 creates a rather small cache. Go to /etc/squid/squid.conf and change the
 last number for cache_dir from 256 to 1024 or 2048. Don't forget to
 uncomment that line. Restart squid. That should do it.

 Uwe

Where do you tell Ryan how to make squid clean its cache? I'm asking this 
because I have the very same problem. No matter how big or small I configure 
cache_dir, it always ends up eating all the partition.

Thanks!

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