Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?
Justin R Findlay schrieb: On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:40:17PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote: Well the main reason is because profiles will disappear from portage after a certain amount of time, and you can't really run without a profile!! Right, but I still don't understand why it doesn't auto update when it's ready, Why should it? If I set the profile to $whatever, I've got my reasons to do so. because for people like me who rarely visit the gentoo main page I'm not going to know about a new profile unless I manually look around in /usr/portage/profiles. And because of lazy people, other people have to suffer? I don't think that this is the right way to go. Alexander Skwar -- Spock: We suffered 23 casualties in that attack, Captain. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?
Alexander Skwar wrote: Justin R Findlay schrieb: On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:40:17PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote: Well the main reason is because profiles will disappear from portage after a certain amount of time, and you can't really run without a profile!! Right, but I still don't understand why it doesn't auto update when it's ready, Why should it? If I set the profile to $whatever, I've got my reasons to do so. because for people like me who rarely visit the gentoo main page I'm not going to know about a new profile unless I manually look around in /usr/portage/profiles. And because of lazy people, other people have to suffer? You get big fat warnings once you're using a deprecated profile. Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:05:52AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: And because of lazy people, other people have to suffer? Yes. Otherwise I'd think you were discriminataing against me and I'd have to leave gentoo for another distro with loud exclamations of disgust. I don't think that this is the right way to go. Sometimes you have to go left for variety and adventure. (: Justin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 21:55 -0600, Justin R Findlay wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:40:17PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote: Well the main reason is because profiles will disappear from portage after a certain amount of time, and you can't really run without a profile!! Right, but I still don't understand why it doesn't auto update when it's ready, because for people like me who rarely visit the gentoo main page I'm not going to know about a new profile unless I manually look around in /usr/portage/profiles. yes you will know. Eventually you will get a message every time you do an emerge that says something like your profile is deprecated, please see www.blah.blah for information on updating to the latest profile... so you will know when it matters :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Ever heard of .cshrc? That's a city in Bosnia. Right? (Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of commands.) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde
Hi, does somebody know if app-office/openoffice-bin supports native look and feel for kde? Or would I have to emerge app-office/openoffice with KDE-useflag? Best Regards Sebastian Noack -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde
On Thursday 03 August 2006 12:14, Noack, Sebastian wrote: Hi, does somebody know if app-office/openoffice-bin supports native look and feel for kde? Or would I have to emerge app-office/openoffice with KDE-useflag? The icons, to me, look KDE-ish. -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgptC0SHerdZm.pgp Description: PGP signature
AW: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde
Hi, does somebody know if app-office/openoffice-bin supports native look and feel for kde? Or would I have to emerge app-office/openoffice with KDE-useflag? The icons, to me, look KDE-ish. Yeah, that is what I probably mean. I have seen OpenOffice on my mum's notebook on which runs kubunto and the look of OpenOffice was really close to the look of each other kde-app. But I wasn't sure if app-office/openoffice-bin on Gentoo supports that also or if I would have to compile app-office/openoffice with the kde-useflag, therefore. But even if office/openoffice-bin have kde-support, how would I tell it to use kdelibs instead of gtk+? Because of both libraries are present on my system. Regards Sebastian Noack -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] app-office/openoffice-bin and kde
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:24:25 +0200, Noack, Sebastian wrote: ut even if office/openoffice-bin have kde-support, how would I tell it to use kdelibs instead of gtk+? Because of both libraries are present on my system. You shouldn't need to, OOo detects which desktop it is running on and uses the appropriate icon set. There is an environment variable you can use to force the choice, but you only need that if running an unsupported desktop. -- Neil Bothwick NOTICE: -- THE ELEVATORS WILL BE OUT OF ORDER TODAY -- (The nearest working elevators are in the building across the street.) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge do not offer to update to new seamonkey
Hi, Today I executed my daily 'eix-sync -v'. At the end I got this: # eix-sync output start . output snipped . * Running update-eix Reading Portage settings .. Building database (/var/cache/eix) from scratch .. [0] /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata) Reading 100% Applying masks .. Database contains 11248 packages in 148 categories. Diffing databases (11247 - 11248 packages) [N] == app-arch/p7zip (4.42): Port of 7-Zip archiver for Unix [N] == games-mud/tintin (1.96.1): (T)he k(I)cki(N) (T)ickin d(I)kumud clie(N)t [N] == sys-block/di (4.5): Disk Information Utility [U] == www-client/seamonkey (1.0.3): Mozilla Application Suite - web browser, email, HTML editor, IRC [N] == x11-apps/xprop (1.0.1): X.Org xprop application [N] app-emulation/libvirt (none): C toolkit to manipulate virtual machines # eix-sync output end Seamonkey is set to be updated as you can see. So I started emerge: # emerge output start omc-2 ~ # emerge -vauDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies / !!! Packages for the following atoms are either all !!! masked or don't exist: dev-util/valgrind ... done! Total size of downloads: 0 kB Nothing to merge; would you like to auto-clean packages? [Yes/No] No # emerge output end No offer to update seamonkey? Then I tried: # emerge output start omc-2 ~ # emerge -va seamonkey These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] www-client/seamonkey-1.0.3 [1.0.2] USE=crypt gnome ipv6 -debug -java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint 35,022 kB Total size of downloads: 35,022 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] # emerge output end Seamonkey is set to be updated in this emerge run. Why didn't emerge offer to update seamonkey when I used the '-u' option in the first emerge run?? Thanks, jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge do not offer to update to new seamonkey
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:48:48 +0200, Jules Colding wrote: Seamonkey is set to be updated in this emerge run. Why didn't emerge offer to update seamonkey when I used the '-u' option in the first emerge run?? It could be that neither seamonkey nor a dependent package is in your world file. Does emerge --depclean -p offer to remove it? If so, you need to add it to world with emerge -n seamonkey, which will also update it for you. -- Neil Bothwick Will we ever get out of this airport? asked Tom interminably. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge do not offer to update to new seamonkey
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 09:44 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:48:48 +0200, Jules Colding wrote: Seamonkey is set to be updated in this emerge run. Why didn't emerge offer to update seamonkey when I used the '-u' option in the first emerge run?? It could be that neither seamonkey nor a dependent package is in your world file. Does emerge --depclean -p offer to remove it? Yes, it does. If so, you need to add it to world with emerge -n seamonkey, which will also update it for you. OK, thanks. jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
AW: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al
I have a hard time installing Gentoo 2006.0 using either the minimal installation image or the LiveCD. The machine has a Asus A8V Deluxe mainboard with onboard networking. Windows identifies the network controller as Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet, and Gentoo's lspci confirms this. However, I can't get the network card up and running with Gentoo (it works fine with i.e. OpenSUSE 10). Searching this mailing list turned up hints to use modprobe sk98lin, modprobe skge and modprobe sky2 after booting. I tried all three variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using net-setup et0, ifconfig shows Link encap:UNSPEC and a weird hardware address. Ping fails for all addresses except the machine's own, and RX bytes for eht0 always remains zero. Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck now and I'd appreciate your help. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter Hi, it seems to be a problem with the driver on the Gentoo LiveCD. I would propose to try an other LiveCD for example Knoppix or if you still have any other Linux distribution (you mentioned OpenSUSE) on this machine, where the network interface works boot it and use it to install Gentoo. And don't forget to file a bug in the Gentoo bugzilla if it points out that it is indeed a problem with the driver on the Gentoo LiveCD. :) Best Regards Sebastian Noack -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?
El Jueves, 3 de Agosto de 2006 08:30, Justin R Findlay escribió: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:05:52AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: And because of lazy people, other people have to suffer? Yes. Otherwise I'd think you were discriminataing against me and I'd have to leave gentoo for another distro with loud exclamations of disgust. I don't think that this is the right way to go. Sometimes you have to go left for variety and adventure. (: Justin Gentoo is about knowing what is going underneath a silly desktop interface, and this is -as I already stated- a VERY IMPORTANT issue related to the system core. Gentoo is built around a compiler and all the things that are tied to the profile. You can even raise your version of debian or mandrake that easy, and they are binary distros. You obviously, dont have any will to find a solution, but just create controversy. And, I did not want to say it this way, but, you really that someone cares about you having to leave gentoo for another distro with loud exclamations of disgust. ? Scream is what children do when they are not gifted with an automatic solution to their problems. Men and women, better try to learn something and find a way in all areas of life, it is not that hard to look when a profile is updated and make a symlink. Plus portage, as some people already told you, will tell you when you really need to update that profile. We could tell the reverse story about you discriminating all of us and gifting the lazy ones with priviledges, but I will not do it, cause it is a childish arguement that I will not go into. Happy screaming. Jesús. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al
On 8/3/06, Ralph Seichter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using net-setup et0, ifconfig shows Link encap:UNSPEC and a weird hardware address. IIRC, eth0 on the live CD can be a IEEE1394 ethernet bridge, if you have a firewire port in the PC. The UNSPEC and 'weird' hardware address are indicative of this. Do you get an eth1 after loading those 3 modules? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
Hi Guys, I know this is VERY OT. I have a Gentoo Server running at Home 24/7 and there's a possiblity that it's really eating up my energy bill. I've seen the Kill-A-Watt http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7657/ but it's a 120V US Version. I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one? The Server is an old DELL PowerEdge 4300 w/ 2x350Mhz Procs and 1GB Mem -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem with quota
Hi folks, i have an gentoo server on my network, I export the /home and its have quota enabled. But since yesterday, when the quota service are enabled, none user can anter any file on the remote filesystem, the message get is disk quota exceeded I cant find any message on logs and when i start the quota service, it take a while scanning the quotas on the disk containing the /homewhat could be happening ??here is a copy of my fstab. /dev/sda4 /home ext3 defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago LüttigMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 194392373__
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with quota
Thiago Lüttig wrote: /dev/sda4 /home ext3 defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2 Should not it be: defaults,usrquota,grpquota? At least in my fstab it is so, and I'm having no problems... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with quota
I think thats right.. but always been this way... i can figure out was wrongOn 8/3/06, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thiago Lüttig wrote: /dev/sda4 /homeext3defaults,quota,grpquota 1 2 Should not it be: defaults,usrquota,grpquota?At least in my fstab it is so, and I'm having no problems...Jarry--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago LüttigMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 194392373__
Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 19:41 +0200, Jarry wrote: Ow Mun Heng wrote: I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one? I'm using this one (all in one line without spaces): http://www1.uk.conrad.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/?~template=pcat_product_details_documentobject_guid=0A2FC03E2FBEFDFFE1000A01022Bmaster_guid=master_typ=no_brotkrumennavi=p_load_area=1114014p_artikelbilder_mode=Einp_sortopt=object_descriptionpage=1p_catalog_max_results=10cachedetail= Doesn't work :-( If the link does not work, go to conrad.com and search for energy monitor. Many thanks for the link. You're referring to the Energy Check 3000 or the Energy Monitor 3000? (What's the difference? I'm printing the manual to do a comparison study) The Check is 19.95 EUR wherelse the monitor is 30.99 EUR (and 39.99 EUR when I go to the international page, for some reason) Which one do you have and it works well I suppose. Thanks again. (I've scoured the Net for a few days looking for this one with a combination of Kill-a-watt + europe and Kill-a-watt + 240V and a variety of others w/o luck) -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Authentication Issues
Problem fixed. /etc/fstab had the root file system mounted with the users option, which disabled the requisite setuid bit on the /bin/su executable, thereby preventing me from su'ing to root from a non-root user. This was despite the fact that the non-root user was in the wheel group. Thanks again for your help. Kris Kerwin On Wednesday 02 August 2006 01:10, Kris Kerwin wrote: Hi all, I just performed a new Gentoo install, and am having a couple of issues regarding authentication. I think that the problem is something to do with PAM/Shadow. (No ... it's not the blocking issue between pam-login and shadow). I run a single user system with just users for myself (username: kris) and root. I cannot su into the root account from my personal account. I have added kris to the group wheel using the `gpasswd -a kris wheel', but still cannot su. I verified that kris is in the wheel group by logging in and trying the `groups' command. Then, I tried editing `/etc/pam.d/su' and commenting out the line `auth required pam_wheel.so use_uid', as the comment above it states that doing so will allow users who are not in the wheel group to su. Still, no joy. Other comments in that file state that you may give explicit rights to specific users by creating the file `/etc/security/suauth.allow' with each allowed user on their own line. Still, no joy. On a (possibly) related note: while trying to switch from a graphical login to a virtual console to work on some of these problems, I found that the usual Ctrl-Alt-F* incantation did not work. The only way to switch to a virtual console was to right click on the desktop and go through the `Switch User' menu function on KDE. Further, when switching back to the graphical login from the console, I found that the screensaver had come on and had locked the desktop (though this was disabled within KDE's configuration). The big problem, however, came when I could not unlock the screensaver with my password. Also, kris' attempts to change his passwd are met with the error: `Authentication token manipulation error'. Thanks in advance for all of your help. System information is appended below. Kris Kerwin == System Info == I run `pam-0.78-r3 USE=berkdb' and `shadow-4.0.15-r2 USE=nls pam' on the following system: Portage 2.1-r1 (!/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r4, 2.6.16-suspend2-r8 i686) = System uname: 2.6.16-suspend2-r8 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.15 app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r1 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r3 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig ccache cvs distlocks fixpackages metadata-transfer notitles sandbox sfperms strict userpriv GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo; MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/tmp/build PORTDIR=/usr/target/ports SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X acpi adns aim alsa apache2 apm arts artswrappersuid asm audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cddb cdparanoia cli crypt cups dga divx4linux dlloader doc dri dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd ethereal f77 font-server foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 heimdal icq imlib ipv6 isdnlog jabber java javascript jikes joystick jpeg kde kerberos koffice-plugin libg++ libwww mad mikmod mime motif mp3 mpeg mplayer msn ncurses nls nocd nptl offensive ogg opengl oscar oss pam pcre pda pdflib perl png posix pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection sdl session smime spell spl sse ssl svg tcpd truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev unicode usb videos vorbis wmf xine xinerama xml xmms xorg xscreensaver xv yahoo zlib elibc_glibc
Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al
On Thursday 03 August 2006 07:51, Ralph Seichter wrote: I have a hard time installing Gentoo 2006.0 using either the minimal installation image or the LiveCD. The machine has a Asus A8V Deluxe mainboard with onboard networking. Windows identifies the network controller as Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet, and Gentoo's lspci confirms this. However, I can't get the network card up and running with Gentoo (it works fine with i.e. OpenSUSE 10). Searching this mailing list turned up hints to use modprobe sk98lin, modprobe skge and modprobe sky2 after booting. I tried all three variants, and lsmod lists the respective modules. After using net-setup et0, ifconfig shows Link encap:UNSPEC and a weird hardware address. Ping fails for all addresses except the machine's own, and RX bytes for eht0 always remains zero. Any ideas? I'm pretty much stuck now and I'd appreciate your help. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter I too have an A8V-Deluxe and have had problems with various distros (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and others) trying to get the Marvell Yukon controller working. About a year ago while doing some google searches trying to resolve this same problem, I found an article some guy wrote about the problem. I'm sorry but I don't have that info or the web site anymore. He said the problem was that ASUS had done something to the chip that caused many linux distros to be unable to probe what he called its PID. His description was too technical for me. His ultimate suggestion, which I followed, was to go out to your favorite computer store, purchase a NIC card (about $20 US) off the shelf, install it in your computer, and disable the on-board Marvell Yukon controller in the BIOS. This may not be the solution you want. I did it and have never had another problem installing any distro, including Gentoo, and getting my network up and running. Good luck! Bill -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
Ow Mun Heng wrote: You're referring to the Energy Check 3000 or the Energy Monitor 3000? I'm using Energy monitor 3000... (What's the difference? I'm printing the manual to do a comparison study) I don't know, there was only EnergyMonitor3000 on stock, when I went shopping so I bought it. But it has larger display! :-) I'm very satisfied with it. I was really surprised, how much juice are some of my devices eating... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xawtv/Scantv refuses cooperation
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 03. Aug 2006, 00:48:25 +0200 schrieb Hemmann, Volker Armin: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 23:37, Bertram Scharpf wrote: Am Mittwoch, 02. Aug 2006, 00:04:52 +0200 schrieb Hemmann, Volker Armin: On Monday 31 July 2006 21:07, Bertram Scharpf wrote: # scantv [...] vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] open /dev/vbi: Invalid argument # dd if=/dev/vbi bs=8 count=1 | od -x 1+0 records in and what are the rights on /dev/vbi / /dev/vbi0 ? And where does it point (I bet, it is just a symlink ;) ) It definitely is; I created it myself. it is a symlink? and does it point to the right device? I never created anything - I let udev do it for me... Another time to prevent any further link, symlink or access rights discussion: $ su - Password: # ls -la /dev/v4l/vbi0 crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224 1. Aug 19:50 /dev/v4l/vbi0 # mknod /tmp/myvbi c 81 224 # chmod a+rwx /tmp/myvbi # ls -la /tmp/myvbi crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 81, 224 3. Aug 20:36 /tmp/myvbi # scantv -n PAL -f europe-west -C /tmp/myvbi [...] vbi: open failed [/tmp/myvbi] open /tmp/myvbi: Invalid argument # dd if=/tmp/myvbi bs=8 count=1 2/dev/null | wc -c 8 # AleVT works without complaint. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
On 8/3/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:27 +, James wrote: Ow Mun Heng Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com writes: I know this is VERY OT. I have a Gentoo Server running at Home 24/7 and there's a possiblity that it's really eating up my energy bill. I've seen the Kill-A-Watt http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7657/ but it's a 120V US Version. I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one? The Server is an old DELL PowerEdge 4300 w/ 2x350Mhz Procs and 1GB Mem If you have an electrician, or are reasonably knowledgable with electricity, then you can split off one of the hot legs run it thru your 120VAC power meter an see how much juice (energy) you are using. I'm not going that path. Thanks anyway for the Howto. Another, better solution is to purchase a clamp/amp meter so you can merely put it around the power cord and make all sorts of power The item I want to test is back home. I'm in the US for a few months only, so a 240V one is needed. The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current Unfortunately, I'm not a US resident and I live in a Country where the power comes in at 240V. energy savings in a year or so. Big power supplies also throw off lots of heat, so if you live somewhere hot, it's a double wammie. Yeah.. Asian Country. HOT throughout the year. I live in a cowntry where energy comes at 240V (Brazil), but all computers, printers and most eletronic devices are wired to a voltage stabilizer that reduces the risk of damage by lightning and other voltage peaks. This stabilizers also transform 240 to 120V AC, so, our energy is 240V but almost ALL devices run switched to 120V. So, my advice is: get a stabilizer. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al
Richard Fish wrote: IIRC, eth0 on the live CD can be a IEEE1394 ethernet bridge, if you have a firewire port in the PC. The UNSPEC and 'weird' hardware address are indicative of this. Good timing of yours, I just wanted to boast a bit about getting to the bottom of the problem myself (after I leaving the machine alone for two hours to get a fresh mental start on things). ;-) It seems that booting from the Minimal CD indeed maps two FireWire devices first. The mainboard's IEEE 1394 becomes attached to eth0, and eth1 is the FireWire port of a SB Audigy card. The network controller is available as eth2 after loading the modules, which I didn't expect. %-P I have since installed Gentoo 2006.0, compiled my own kernel and ten minutes ago the machine properly booted for the first time with the Yukon controller as eth0. Hooray! I've started emerge --update --deep world, and when it is finished, I'll try to figure out exactly which modules can be used to access the network controller (sk98lin, skge or sky2). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:47 -0500, billyd wrote: On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:36, you wrote: [snip] Bill, just load forcedeth and it is going to work just fine. modprobe forcedeth much cheaper than paying extra $20.00 :-) Thanks, Joseph, for that info. When I had my problem, I had not come across that as a possible solution. I was experimenting with Ubuntu/Kubuntu at the time and couldn't find a solution on their forums. I also had not started my experimentation with Gentoo at that time. I have since built another system with a newer ASUS mobo. It also has a Marvell Yukon controller, although it is a newer version. I have not had the same problem with it that I had with the A8V-Deluxe. I would have preferred not to buy a NIC, but it was a simple solution for me and it worked. I don't have A8V-Deluxe but just plain A8V with the same controller Marvell 88E8001 and it worked for me see my posting: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-360921-highlight-forcedeth.html -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Marvell Yukon 88E8001 not working, already tried modprobe sk98lin et al
billyd wrote: His ultimate suggestion, which I followed, was to go out to your favorite computer store, purchase a NIC card (about $20 US) off the shelf, install it in your computer, and disable the on-board Marvell Yukon controller in the BIOS. A valid suggestion, of course. I would probably use a different network controller in a server setup, but as this is a workstation and already quite crammed with PCI cards, I'd rather not add more hardware. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely Dipl. Inform. Ralph Seichter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:04 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 8/3/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I'm not a US resident and I live in a Country where the power comes in at 240V. I live in a cowntry where energy comes at 240V (Brazil), but all computers, printers and most eletronic devices are wired to a voltage stabilizer that reduces the risk of damage by lightning and other voltage peaks. This stabilizers also transform 240 to 120V AC, so, our energy is 240V but almost ALL devices run switched to 120V. I'm sorry but what's the difference between running it at 120V or 240V? (besides the stabilizer) BTW, my PC equipment is running off an APS UPS that does power surges and I presume stabilizer as well. -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Change Partition Type
I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine right now. The partition structure looks like this: hda1 - NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3) hda2 - Swap hda3 - Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed) -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:52 -0400, Michael Crute wrote: I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine right now. The partition structure looks like this: hda1 - NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3) hda2 - Swap hda3 - Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed) simple. mkft.etx3 /dev/hda1 done. it won;t affect anything. unless you want to have evrything as 1 big partition. eg: had1 - linux hda2 - swap then u have more work . -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type
No problem! Just reformat /dev/hda1. Doing this will not touch the other partitions. Of course, if you are booting off of /dev/hda1 now, this is problematic... See the man page for mkfs for more info. Something like: mkfs -t ext2 -m1 /dev/hda1 -Joe Michael Crute wrote: I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine right now. The partition structure looks like this: hda1 - NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3) hda2 - Swap hda3 - Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed) -Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:25:41 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I've seen the Kill-A-Watt http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7657/ but it's a 120V US Version. I'm looking for a 240V Version. Would anyone here know where to get one? I have a Brennenstuhl PM230, which seems to do the same sort of thing on 240V. I think I got it from Maplins - a UK electronic component/gadget retailer - http://www.maplin.co.uk. They don't appear to have in on their site now, but here's something similar http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?TabID=1criteria=power%20meterModuleNo=38343doy=3m8 In fact, it looks almost identical to the Kill-A-Watt. -- Neil Bothwick If a program is useless, it must be documented. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Emerge packages for two python versions?
Is it possible to emerge python library packages (like egenix-mx-base, psycopg, etc, etc, etc) for multiple versions of python (python2.3 and python2.4 for instance)? If so, how? -- Edward Muller Interlix, LLC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change Partition Type
On Thursday 03 August 2006 23:52, Michael Crute wrote: I have a laptop and when I initially setup the partitions I anticipated that I would install Windoze along side of Linux for gaming purposes, I now realize that this is never going to happen and would like to change the partition type from NTFS to Linux Native. Is it possible to do this without hurting the other partitions on the disk? I really can't afford to re-format/re-install the whole machine right now. The partition structure looks like this: hda1 - NTFS (unformatted, want to convert over to Linux Native + ext3) hda2 - Swap hda3 - Linux Native (formatted ext3 with Gentoo installed) -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams In addition to what others already suggested, it also would make sense to actually change the partition type in the partition table: fdisk /dev/hda then press t and type partition number (1 in your case), then 83 (Linux Native) when asked for partition type. BR, dmitri -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems
HiI tried to move to moidular X but it failed so I roled everything back but I now have a problem that has me stumped. When I do an emerge -puD world there are a whole slew of packages that are blocked by a non existant package. I have xorg-x11 6.8.2-r8 installed not 6.9 but get the following in front of all the blocked packages. How do I convince the system that it doesn't have this package installed.=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking I have tried emerge --clean x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and emerge --prune x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there. I have done a revdep-rebuild and an emerge --newuse --update --deep world and nothing has fixed it. Help!-- Pete Pardoe -- Pete Pardoe
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge packages for two python versions?
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:16:13PM -0500, Edward Muller wrote: Is it possible to emerge python library packages (like egenix-mx-base, psycopg, etc, etc, etc) for multiple versions of python (python2.3 and python2.4 for instance)? If so, how? Not currently possible. We have an experimental version of distutils.eclass allowing this but we're being very careful about testing this properly before considering any changes to the portage tree. Regards, Bryan Østergaard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems
On 8/3/06, Pete Pardoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking I have tried emerge --clean x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and emerge --prune x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there. it is written = before package name, so 6.8 counts too (6.86.9) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
Mike Williams wrote: On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:27, James wrote: The simplist solution is NOBODY puts a 240 VAC power supply into a computer unless it's going to draw some serious current (amps) thus by the nature of it being 240 VAC, you already know it is a power hog. Now, I'm not electrical engineer, but I know my way around a fuse board and electricity having fitted out both our new offices for power, network, and some walls. In the UK, and most (if not all) of Europe, Africa, and Asia too, run on about 240 volts, 230 +-10% I think now. Pretty much the whole world, except the Americas. Well, the USA has the same coming in too. We have 220v to 240v coming in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. If you are using transformers to reduce it from 220v to 110v, that will waste some energy right there. Transformers are not real efficient. If you touch it and it is warm, that is what you are wasting. That will also make whatever you are cooling with work harder too. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems
Pete Pardoe wrote: I tried to move to moidular X but it failed so I roled everything back but I now have a problem that has me stumped. You filed a bug for the failure, right? Monolithic X won't be around forever ... When I do an emerge -puD world there are a whole slew of packages that are blocked by a non existant package. I have xorg-x11 6.8.2-r8 installed not 6.9 but get the following in front of all the blocked packages. How do I convince the system that it doesn't have this package installed. =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking I have tried emerge --clean x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and emerge --prune x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there. I have done a revdep-rebuild and an emerge --newuse --update --deep world and nothing has fixed it. You may not realize = means less than or equal to, so your 6.8 installation would qualify. If you want Gentoo to stop asking you to upgrade to the current stable modular X every time you 'emerge world' then you may want to add '=x11-base/xorg-x11-7' to /etc/portage/package.mask. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:43:26AM +0300, Mantas Povilaitis wrote: On 8/3/06, Pete Pardoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking I have tried emerge --clean x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and emerge --prune x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there. it is written = before package name, so 6.8 counts too (6.86.9) Your problem is that the modular xorg is now in the stable tree, so portage is trying to upgrade to the modular xorg when you do an emerge world (if you look further down the list of packages that emerge world is trying to install, you should see xorg-x11-7.0). The dependencies pulled in by modular xorg have to be installed before xorg-x11 itself can be upgraded, but they are blocked by your currently installed, non-modular xorg-x11-6.8. There are two solutions: unmerge the non-modular xorg-x11-6.8, and then merge the modular xorg-x11-7.0 (following the migration guide on www.gentoo.org). But you seem to have already tried this. The second solution is mask modular xorg by adding the line x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8 to /etc/portage/package.mask (including the , obviously). Then portage won't try to upgrade xorg, it won't pull in all those dependencies that block on your version of xorg, and portage should stop complaining. HTH, Toby -- PhD Student Quantum Information Theory group Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics Garching, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.dr-qubit.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] sqsh - Anyone with experience?
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:09 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I'm looking for some pointers in using sqsh. The website - sqsh.org seems to be down. I can't seem to locate a mailing list. It works, but I would just like to know if I can get it to execute a script from a file. I know it has the option sqsh -i which is suppsoed to do that, but try as I might, itjust doesn't give me any output. seems like I need to terminate the script with a ; eg: cat /tmp/p.sql select * from tablename() ; Sorry for the noise -- Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
On 8/3/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the USA has the same coming in too. We have 220v to 240v coming in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. No, we don't. We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and 240V appliances work by using the two hot wires that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other. Other countries actually have 240V between the hot and neutral wires, regardless of how many hot wires actually come in. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] minicom usb-serrial cable config
Hello, I recently got an HP 8000 laptop with any 9-pin serial ports. I got a Entrega USB-to-serail cable. lsusb sees the device: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c01b Logitech, Inc. MX310 Optical Mouse Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1645:8003 Entrega [hex] Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : When I compile the Entrega usb driver into the kernel is shows up in dmesg: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Xircom / Entrega PGS - (prerenumeration) and I can go to /dev/bus/usb/002/ and see with ls: 001 003 But when I go to minicom and go to set the serial port config, I do not know how to designate the port: With an ordinary (16550) serial port it would be something like: /dev/ttyS1 or/dev/ttyS0 What would it be with this Entrega device? I also tried with the driver configured as a loadable model, but with no success. Any ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Very OT] - Kill-A-Watt (240V Version) to measure my Gentoo Server Power Usage
Richard Fish wrote: On 8/3/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the USA has the same coming in too. We have 220v to 240v coming in but that is split into different legs for the 110v to 120v stuff. No, we don't. We have ~120V between a 'hot' wire and neutral, and 240V appliances work by using the two hot wires that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other. Other countries actually have 240V between the hot and neutral wires, regardless of how many hot wires actually come in. -Richard But I can plug their 220v stuff in here too. I have seen the plugs here, Lowes I think. They are funny looking though. That said, having it 220 or 240v is more efficient. That is why they distribute power at higher voltages, sometimes as high as 500Kv. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] minicom usb-serrial cable config
On 8/3/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I recently got an HP 8000 laptop with any 9-pin serial ports. I got a Entrega USB-to-serail cable. lsusb sees the device: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c01b Logitech, Inc. MX310 Optical Mouse Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1645:8003 Entrega [hex] Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : When I compile the Entrega usb driver into the kernel is shows up in dmesg: drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Xircom / Entrega PGS - (prerenumeration) and I can go to /dev/bus/usb/002/ and see with ls: 001 003 But when I go to minicom and go to set the serial port config, I do not know how to designate the port: With an ordinary (16550) serial port it would be something like: /dev/ttyS1 or/dev/ttyS0 What would it be with this Entrega device? I also tried with the driver configured as a loadable model, but with no success. Any ideas? My usb to serial cable gets recognized as /dev/ttyUSB1 Hope that helps. Kirby -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 2006
Booting the life-CD and starting the Gentoo-installer, there is no possibility to set the date. Regards Frank On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:01 -0400, Stephen wrote: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:28, frank wrote: Booting from the Gentoo liveCD 2006 puts my clock back for 2 hours. Did you set the date? You need to set that with the date command. As mentioned in the handbook. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5#doc_chap1 Stephen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???
Hi, I will change my system from ATA to SATA. Is there somethng special to consider for this in beforehand? (...before I will not be able anymore to post to this list a cry of help ... ;) :O) ))) Thank you very much in advance for any help! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot from SATA: Something special to consider ???
Well, I currently have a system with both a PATA drive as well as a SATA drive. SATA uses the whole SCSI subsystem which tends to cause things to not always be in the same place from time to time, devicewise, especially when you have USB mass storage peripherals elsewhere (like my memcard reader). I ended up labelling my partitions/filesystems when I created them so when my system boots, it finds what's where and then things get mounted that way (much cleaner). The only thing I didn't conquer was how to get the bootloader (lilo for me) to boot a label instead of a device so I ended up leaving a boot partition on my PATA disk to allow everything to start nicely and then go from there. So, I guess from here, I too will ask my own question stemming from this one: How do I get a bootloader (lilo preferably for me) to boot a device which may not always be in the same place like a SCSI-ish disk? -Statux On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 06:18 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, I will change my system from ATA to SATA. Is there somethng special to consider for this in beforehand? (...before I will not be able anymore to post to this list a cry of help ... ;) :O) ))) Thank you very much in advance for any help! mcc -- Statux [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
