Re: [gentoo-user] cdrtools incomplete?

2007-05-07 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 7. Mai 2007 schrieb ext Leonhard Gruener:

 equery belongs /usr/bin/cdrecord
 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/cdrecord in *... ]
 app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.5.1 (/usr/bin/cdrecord - /usr/bin/wodim)

 So install cdrkit. Hope this helps

# equery belongs /usr/bin/cdrecord
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/cdrecord in *... ]
app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha25 (/usr/bin/cdrecord)

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] upload problem in seamonkey

2007-05-07 Thread Randy Barlow
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pat wrote:
 I have problem with uploading some sorts of the files by seamonkey (e.g. 
 *.pdf,
 *.jpg, etc.) ... in 90%.

What kinds of problems?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Intel D975X or NVidia 680i for stable, fast Linux box?

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Denis schrieb:
 I'm looking into upgrading to Intel Core 2 Duo (or Quad) family -
 perhaps the E6600 Conroe.  I'm trying to figure out which
 motherboard/chipset would suit my needs best.  I'm planning to install
 Gentoo Linux on the system, and I need it to be, first and foremost,
 stable and reliable - mainly to be used for number crunching (e. g.,
 Mathematica), simulations, etc...  No gaming.  I'm between getting an
 Intel board with the D975X chipset and a board with the NVidia 680i
 chipset.  Which of these chipsets is more favored in the Linux
 community and which might do better with number crunching
 applications?

Why not use the 965P-chipset on a board like the Intel DP965LT?
Should be a bit cheaper than the D975X and if you don't need the
RAID-functionality, this is a very good board for working purposes IMO.

The 965-chipset even beat the 975 in some benchmarks I read ...

I use one here with a E6600, running gentoo on a 2.6.21-kernel
(dynticks), and everything runs fine and stable.

You have to use a kernel =2.6.20 or so if you want to use the
Marvell-PATA-Chip (for CD-ROM or so), but no problem with this, also all
the other features (sata, sound, usb, Gbit-LAN, cpu frequency scaling
...) work fine.

Dunno about the nvidia-chipset, I personally chose the Intel-board after
reading some tests in the german c't-magazine where it did score good
points and seemed to fit my needs for a decent workhorse here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enable the mouse for the console

2007-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Richard Broersma Jr,

 Thanks everyone for the pointers!

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Intel D975X or NVidia 680i for stable, fast Linux box?

2007-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Stefan G. Weichinger,

 Why not use the 965P-chipset on a board like the Intel DP965LT?
 Should be a bit cheaper than the D975X and if you don't need the
 RAID-functionality, this is a very good board for working purposes IMO.

Which board are you using?


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Intel D975X or NVidia 680i for stable, fast Linux box?

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Neil Bothwick schrieb:
 Hello Stefan G. Weichinger,
 
 Why not use the 965P-chipset on a board like the Intel DP965LT?
 Should be a bit cheaper than the D975X and if you don't need the
 RAID-functionality, this is a very good board for working purposes IMO.
 
 Which board are you using?

As mentioned above: Intel DP965LT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Intel D975X or NVidia 680i for stable, fast Linux box?

2007-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Stefan G. Weichinger,

  Why not use the 965P-chipset on a board like the Intel DP965LT?
  Should be a bit cheaper than the D975X and if you don't need the
  RAID-functionality, this is a very good board for working purposes
  IMO.  
  
  Which board are you using?  
 
 As mentioned above: Intel DP965LT.

Doh! Too early in the morning for me :(

I was looking at a Gigabyte board but I'll give this one a look too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Intel D975X or NVidia 680i for stable, fast Linux box?

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Neil Bothwick schrieb:
 Hello Stefan G. Weichinger,
 
 Why not use the 965P-chipset on a board like the Intel DP965LT?
 Should be a bit cheaper than the D975X and if you don't need the
 RAID-functionality, this is a very good board for working purposes
 IMO.  
 Which board are you using?  
 As mentioned above: Intel DP965LT.
 
 Doh! Too early in the morning for me :(
 
 I was looking at a Gigabyte board but I'll give this one a look too.

A Gigabyte board with the P965-chipset?

I have a comparison here with the Gigabyte 945P-DS3, somewhat cheaper
than the Intel, no firewire, and a bit slower in the SATA-benchmarks ...
and 4GB of RAM max, while the P965 accepts up to 8GB (depends on if one
needs that now or plans to use the board for quite a while ...)

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[gentoo-user] Firefox generates zombies.

2007-05-07 Thread Marek Miller
When I run firefox 2.0.0.3 on my x86 laptop, the ps -eHF command 
produces following output:


UIDPID  PPID  CSZ   RSS PSR STIME TTY  TIME CMD
...
...
marek 5788  5765 12 50526 730880 09:02 ?00:13:42 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
marek 5869  5788  0 0 0   0 09:02 ?
00:00:00   [netstat] defunct


Firefox is a parent of defunct netstat process. Of course, when I close 
firefox, the zombie disappears too.

Could someone explain me how to get rid of it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about java, Seamonkey and random hangs.

2007-05-07 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:


 OK.  I emerged the one you mentioned.  I mostly did it because now
 when I go to the weather radar, Seamonkey starts to load the page then
 crashes completely.  Even Konqueror doesn't work most of the time. 

 What the heck is going on with this?  I need my weather because we
 have some really nasty storms this time of year and I would like to
 see it coming, so I know to duck. 

 Any ideas?  Is it me or the website? 

 Thanks.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


Well, after not knowing anything else to do, I did a emerge -ev world. 
It seems to work like it was before.  Read that as Seamonkey hangs until
the page is completely loaded.  It doesn't crash at least.

Still open to ideas.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Intel D975X or NVidia 680i for stable, fast Linux box?

2007-05-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 May 2007 10:31:06 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

  I was looking at a Gigabyte board but I'll give this one a look too.  
 
 A Gigabyte board with the P965-chipset?
 
 I have a comparison here with the Gigabyte 945P-DS3, somewhat cheaper
 than the Intel, no firewire, and a bit slower in the SATA-benchmarks ...
 and 4GB of RAM max, while the P965 accepts up to 8GB (depends on if one
 needs that now or plans to use the board for quite a while ...)

The 945P-DS3P has Firewire and a faster FSB, but no one seems to have
them in stock at a decent price right now, so I'll keep looking.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox generates zombies.

2007-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 May 2007, Marek Miller wrote:
 When I run firefox 2.0.0.3 on my x86 laptop, the ps -eHF command
 produces following output:

 UIDPID  PPID  CSZ   RSS PSR STIME TTY  TIME CMD
 ...
 ...
 marek 5788  5765 12 50526 730880 09:02 ?00:13:42
 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin
 marek 5869  5788  0 0 0   0 09:02 ?
 00:00:00   [netstat] defunct

 Firefox is a parent of defunct netstat process. Of course, when I
 close firefox, the zombie disappears too.
 Could someone explain me how to get rid of it?

Two things:

1. Please don't hijack threads. It's very rude.

2. You can't get rid of zombies. They are unkillable, hence the name. A 
zombie is a process whose immediate parent died without cleaning up 
it's children's PIDs. They end up being attached to the another parent 
further up the chain, end consume no resources except taking up one 
PID. There's a kernel thread that runs every 5 minutes or so sweeping 
them out of the way. So you can ignore zombies.

The above might be wrong, it's been a while since I verified it for 
myself; so I paraphrased the Red Hat 4 training materials. That is for 
2.6.9, it might be different these days in mainline kernels

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Re: [gentoo-user] eix way too verbose

2007-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 04 May 2007, Vaeth wrote:
  nazgul ~ # eix gimp-print
  [I] media-gfx/gimp-print
   Available versions:  4.2.7 (~)5.1.0 {cups foomaticdb gimp gtk
  nls ppds readline}
   Installed versions:  5.1.0(20:50:45 05/02/07)(cups foomaticdb
  gimp gtk -nls ppds readline)
   Homepage:http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
   Description: Gimp Print Drivers
 
  I have no need to see that full list of USE flags between braces on
  the Available versions line - the information is already on
  the Installed versions line.

 It is accidental that the informations are identical in this case.
 The first one are the useflags of all ebuilds for the package, the
 second one are that stored in /var/db/pkg. You will see a
 difference for other packages (e.g. probably for gcc or *-sources).
 Note that if you use -l (--versionlines) the IUSE output will be even
 more verbose, but I guess if you look at the gcc/*-sources example
 you will understand the reason.

I do understand the reason perfectly well and I do know what eix is 
doing and why. I just wanted to disable the Available display, as 
there are other means I use to find what's in a packages' IUSE.

Bo did provide the information I was looking for:

EIX_PRINT_IUSE='false'

thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reducing disk usage

2007-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 05 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Surely you meant move the /tmp, /usr and /var to the / partition?

   Let me rephrase myself...
   - *PHYSICALLY* moving /tmp /usr and /var to the /home partition.
   - bind mount (or symlink) these directories to the / partition

OK, I see what you mean. Personally, I would have done it slightly 
differently:

- create a partition with /home, /usr, /tmp, /var directories
- mount this somewhere, say /stuff
- mount -o bind /stuff/home /home
- etc ...

But that's because I know myself and I know if I did it your way I'd 
confuse the dickens out of myself three days later when finding a usr/, 
var/, tmp/ inside /home. It seems that human memory is like those Flash 
NAND things - it deterioriates with age, hehehe :-)

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[gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi!

I would like to know if there is a package, daemon or whatever that 
automatically updates an index to seach the file system.

I'm a bit tired of slocate -u [wait 5min] every time I emerge something.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox generates zombies.

2007-05-07 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 7 May 2007 13:09, Marek Miller wrote:

 Firefox is a parent of defunct netstat process. Of course, when I
 close firefox, the zombie disappears too.
 Could someone explain me how to get rid of it?

It's an ancient bug. See this bug report:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51429
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Re: [gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Elias Probst
On Monday 07 May 2007 12:02:41 Florian Philipp wrote:
 Hi!

 I would like to know if there is a package, daemon or whatever that
 automatically updates an index to seach the file system.

 I'm a bit tired of slocate -u [wait 5min] every time I emerge something.

 Thanks in advance
 Florian Philipp

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[gentoo-user] Re: slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Anno v. Heimburg
Florian Philipp wrote:

 I would like to know if there is a package, daemon or whatever that
 automatically updates an index to seach the file system.

What about a cron script?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enable the mouse for the console

2007-05-07 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Sun, 6 May 2007 09:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
Richard Broersma Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Can anyone point me to a howto link so that I can enable my mouse for
 the console?

emerge gpm  rc-update add gpm default  /etc/init.d/gpm start

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Re: [gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:02 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I would like to know if there is a package, daemon or whatever that 
 automatically updates an index to seach the file system.
 
 I'm a bit tired of slocate -u [wait 5min] every time I emerge something.

slocate already has such a feature (so long as you have cron
installed)

/etc/cron.daily/slocate

contains instructions for updating the database, using updatedb.  Move
it to /etc/cron.weekly or whatever if you want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Iain Buchanan wrote:
 /etc/cron.daily/slocate

 contains instructions for updating the database, using updatedb. 
 Move it to /etc/cron.weekly or whatever if you want.

Better copy it, and replace the body of the daily one with 
'## Placeholder, do not delete.'

Otherwise a revision of the slocate ebuild will put the script back 
into the daily dir without saying anything.  Quite annoying.  The 
placeholder will cause an etc-update message.

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Re: [gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 May 2007, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
 Iain Buchanan wrote:
  /etc/cron.daily/slocate
 
  contains instructions for updating the database, using updatedb.
  Move it to /etc/cron.weekly or whatever if you want.

 Better copy it, and replace the body of the daily one with
 '## Placeholder, do not delete.'

 Otherwise a revision of the slocate ebuild will put the script back
 into the daily dir without saying anything.  Quite annoying.  The
 placeholder will cause an etc-update message.

 Benno

Or CONFIG_PROTECT /etc/cron.* to protect the whole lot from the same 
thing with any other ebuild as well

There can be few things more annoying than to have some arb ebuild nuke 
your carefully crafted crontabs...

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread marco restelli

On 5/4/07, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have noticed xorg-7.2 just went stable. I am currently using 7.1 with
the stable binary ATI drivers ati-drivers-8.32.5 and the kernel
gentoo-sources-2.6.19-r5. Has anybody with the same configuration done
the update? Does it work for you?



Update done, no problems (up to now). I am on amd64.

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Re: [gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 07 May 2007, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
  Better copy it, and replace the body of the daily one with
  '## Placeholder, do not delete.'
 
  Otherwise a revision of the slocate ebuild will put the script
  back into the daily dir without saying anything.  Quite
  annoying.  The placeholder will cause an etc-update message.

 Or CONFIG_PROTECT /etc/cron.* to protect the whole lot from the
 same thing with any other ebuild as well

/etc is in CONFIG_PROTECT by default.  The point is, when a file 
doesn't exist yet, Portage will simply install it.  The config 
protection mechanism works only for existing files.  There's no way 
to tell Portage that I want to be alerted of _new config files too.

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[gentoo-user] remote ssh session does not reflect my keyboard inputs

2007-05-07 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I am not sure how this works:

When I ssh into a Ubuntu server certain keyboard actions (like pressing the Up 
or Left arrows) are not translated on the remote box, but give ASCII 
responses; e.g. pressing Left Arrow, gives $ ^[[D which is annoying as I have 
to delete part of the command I just typed to be able to correct it.

How can I set it up so that my Gentoo keyboard presses and behaviour is 
reflected on the remote box?  Is it a matter of copying over the .bashrc file 
from the Gentoo box?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Francisco Rivas

Hi, I never couldn't get 8.32.5 ati-drivers working. Now I update to kernel
2.6.20-r6 and 8.36 ati-drivers and works fine for me. I guess update
to 8.36ati-driver.

I hope be a help.

On 5/7/07, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2007-05-07, marco restelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/4/07, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have noticed xorg-7.2 just went stable. I am currently using
 7.1 with the stable binary ATI drivers ati-drivers-8.32.5 and
 the kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.19-r5. Has anybody with the same
 configuration done the update? Does it work for you?

 Update done, no problems (up to now). I am on amd64.

You're running 8.32.5 with xorg-7.2 and it works OK?

I couldn't get 8.32.5 to build with 2.6.16, so I upgraded to
2.6.20.  8.32.5 wouldn't build with that kernel version so I
tried the testing version of ati-drivers.  The testing
ati-drivers are badly broken: scrolling aterm windows get
corrupted, some apps don't get repainted correctly, and the X
server locks up hard when you try to do anything using the Xv
extension.

I guess I'll try downgrading my kernel until I can get 8.32.5
to build.

ATI's Linux drivers sure do suck...

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Remy Blank
Thanks for the feedback.

Grant Edwards wrote:
 I couldn't get 8.32.5 to build with 2.6.16, so I upgraded to
 2.6.20.  8.32.5 wouldn't build with that kernel version so I
 tried the testing version of ati-drivers.

Yes, b.g.o has quite a few bugs open for ati-drivers related to 2.6.20,
that's one of the reasons I want to keep 2.6.19 (besides having no good
reason to update, that is).

Marco, what kernel are you running?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Francisco Rivas

All right, well you can prove with kernel 2.6.19 and 8.36 ati-drivers if you
want to keep that kernel.

:D

On 5/7/07, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for the feedback.

Grant Edwards wrote:
 I couldn't get 8.32.5 to build with 2.6.16, so I upgraded to
 2.6.20.  8.32.5 wouldn't build with that kernel version so I
 tried the testing version of ati-drivers.

Yes, b.g.o has quite a few bugs open for ati-drivers related to 2.6.20,
that's one of the reasons I want to keep 2.6.19 (besides having no good
reason to update, that is).

Marco, what kernel are you running?

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Re: [gentoo-user] remote ssh session does not reflect my keyboard inputs

2007-05-07 Thread Ryan Sims

On 5/7/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I ssh into a Ubuntu server certain keyboard actions (like pressing the Up
or Left arrows) are not translated on the remote box, but give ASCII
responses; e.g. pressing Left Arrow, gives $ ^[[D which is annoying as I have
to delete part of the command I just typed to be able to correct it.

How can I set it up so that my Gentoo keyboard presses and behaviour is
reflected on the remote box?  Is it a matter of copying over the .bashrc file
from the Gentoo box?


I *think* this is a termcap/terminfo issue rather than a bash issue.
What does 'echo $TERM' say in your ssh session?

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-07, Francisco Rivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, I never couldn't get 8.32.5 ati-drivers working. Now I update to kernel
 2.6.20-r6 and 8.36 ati-drivers and works fine for me. I guess update
 to 8.36ati-driver.

OK, I'll give 2.6.20 + 8.36.5 a try.  

Next time I'm in the market for a loptop, I'm going to think
long and hard before buying another model that has an ATI video
chipset.  I've never had a lick of trouble with NVidia drivers
and have had constant headaches with ATI drivers (from both
xorg and ATI).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mount NFS mounts as soon as possible

2007-05-07 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi,

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb:
 IIRC, you can modify specific initscripts (in /etc/init.d) to depend on 
 nfsmount.

i moved now the script netmount from default to boot and everything
works fine.

Bye
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Francisco Rivas

Your comment is really funny because I think the same before my
8.36ati-drivers work. Honestly I think the same now, it's important
keep that in
mind. In my job I have an Nvidia Video Card and on the first time i
installed the nvidia-drivers pufff.. works.

Actually RMS said don't buy ati he knows why, us not.

On 5/7/07, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2007-05-07, Francisco Rivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, I never couldn't get 8.32.5 ati-drivers working. Now I update to
kernel
 2.6.20-r6 and 8.36 ati-drivers and works fine for me. I guess update
 to 8.36ati-driver.

OK, I'll give 2.6.20 + 8.36.5 a try.

Next time I'm in the market for a loptop, I'm going to think
long and hard before buying another model that has an ATI video
chipset.  I've never had a lick of trouble with NVidia drivers
and have had constant headaches with ATI drivers (from both
xorg and ATI).

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-07, Francisco Rivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Next time I'm in the market for a loptop, I'm going to think
 long and hard before buying another model that has an ATI video
 chipset.  I've never had a lick of trouble with NVidia drivers
 and have had constant headaches with ATI drivers (from both
 xorg and ATI).

 Your comment is really funny because I think the same before
 my 8.36ati-drivers work. Honestly I think the same now, it's
 important keep that in mind. In my job I have an Nvidia Video
 Card and on the first time i installed the nvidia-drivers
 pufff.. works.

I used to like ATI because there were open-source drivers that
supported 3D acceleration, but that ended a few years ago: the
9250 was the last board with opensource DRI support.

Unfortunately, if you're shopping for a laptop there seem very
few non-ATI choices.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-7.2 and ati-drivers-8.32.5

2007-05-07 Thread Francisco Rivas

yes you have reason, because when I bought my laptop (dell inspiron 6400
15.4) I ask to vendor (pretty good girl) if I can buy a laptop 15.4 with
Nvidia, she say no because the size of the laptop is not appropriate..

On 5/7/07, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2007-05-07, Francisco Rivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Next time I'm in the market for a loptop, I'm going to think
 long and hard before buying another model that has an ATI video
 chipset.  I've never had a lick of trouble with NVidia drivers
 and have had constant headaches with ATI drivers (from both
 xorg and ATI).

 Your comment is really funny because I think the same before
 my 8.36ati-drivers work. Honestly I think the same now, it's
 important keep that in mind. In my job I have an Nvidia Video
 Card and on the first time i installed the nvidia-drivers
 pufff.. works.

I used to like ATI because there were open-source drivers that
supported 3D acceleration, but that ended a few years ago: the
9250 was the last board with opensource DRI support.

Unfortunately, if you're shopping for a laptop there seem very
few non-ATI choices.

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[gentoo-user] xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread James
Hello,

I'm looking for some advice on an amd64 system.
I have this video card:

01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7269
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 0d03


Which is actually this card:
R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] (Secondary)

according to this page:
http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/iii//?i=1002

Anyway, it was a very arduous task setting up X, 3D and such with this
card on an amd64. Now it's time to update xorg-server, as part of 
the routine software updates to a stable system, and it says that 
ati-drivers is blocking the update:

blocks B  x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)


I'm using this version of ati-drivers, as it worked the most reliable
with 3D applications (BZflag) in particular.

x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5  USE=acpi qt3 0 kB

One thing that I as never really comfortable with is this make.conf
entry that I ended up using shich I gleaned from several wikis:
VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev fglrx vesa

I'm still using an older kernel, (2.6.18-gentoo-r6)
so any advice on kernel versions  or options to use with this video 
card are welcome.

Any advice on which 3D drivers options are now available for this 
card or which version of ati-drivers I should install to keep
xorg-server-1.3.0.0 happy are welcome. The only information I 
can find googling is not current with these newer versions 
of ati-drivers, 2.6.20+ kernels, 3D and xorg-server 1.3.



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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread Remy Blank
James wrote:
 blocks B  x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking 
 x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)

That's because none of the current ati-drivers work with xorg-server-1.3.

 One thing that I as never really comfortable with is this make.conf
 entry that I ended up using shich I gleaned from several wikis:
 VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev fglrx vesa

This only means that the drivers for framebuffer, ati-drivers and vesa
will be built for xorg. In your case you have probably configured xorg
to use the ati-drivers (fglrx). It is a good idea to have the vesa
driver handy in case something breaks after an update. It allows you to
configure a slow but mostly working X11.

 I'm still using an older kernel, (2.6.18-gentoo-r6)
 so any advice on kernel versions  or options to use with this video 
 card are welcome.

From what I remember from bugs.gentoo.org, 2.6.19 should work fine with
all recent ati-drivers, whereas 2.6.20 seems to be problematic.

 Any advice on which 3D drivers options are now available for this 
 card or which version of ati-drivers I should install to keep
 xorg-server-1.3.0.0 happy are welcome. The only information I 
 can find googling is not current with these newer versions 
 of ati-drivers, 2.6.20+ kernels, 3D and xorg-server 1.3.

Stay away from xorg-server-1.3 and kernel-2.6.20 or later until ATI
releases new versions that work with them.

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[gentoo-user] Booting Gentoo from a floppy and then chroot to finish install on old PC

2007-05-07 Thread Richard Watson
Hi - I've got an old PC at home I want to use as a samba server. It
doesn't have a CD drive and I was wondering if anyone could tell me how
to create bootable gentoo floppy. I've been using Toms linux to wget and
re-install the stage and portage files but the kernel is to old and
fails on chroot.

Apart from the obvious comment to buy a CD drive ... Is there anyone out
there that has Gentoo 2.6 kernel that will boot of a floppy and can tell
me how to do it? The only other command I would need to perform would be
chroot.

Thanks, Richard

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread James
Remy Blank remy.blank at pobox.com writes:


 Stay away from xorg-server-1.3 and kernel-2.6.20 or later until ATI
 releases new versions that work with them.


This is what I was looking for. I do not stay on top of these issues,
and the system is working reasonable well right now. I just
cannot get the logitech joystick (game controller) to work with
this rig. It works on 4 other intel/ati systems, or athlon/nividia
based systems but those all use the radeon drivers or nvidia drivers.


Thanks for bringing me up to speed on these issues!



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[gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-07 Thread David Harel

As so many times before, openssl fails to compile.

Top most error is: openssl.c:(.text+0x15c): undefined reference to 
`OPENSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconf'. Two other packages that give me 
trouble are: glibc and python. All attempts are after sync and to a 
stable (so I hope) version.


GCC version is: gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6-1.0, pie-8.7.8)
I think at one point I tried to change gcc configuration (gcc-config) to 
version 4.1.1 but if that is the only way I understand I will have to 
reinstall everything.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-07 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 7. Mai 2007, David Harel wrote:
  As so many times before, openssl fails to compile.

 Top most error is: openssl.c:(.text+0x15c): undefined reference to
 `OPENSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconf'. Two other packages that give me
 trouble are: glibc and python. All attempts are after sync and to a
 stable (so I hope) version.

 GCC version is: gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6-1.0, pie-8.7.8)
 I think at one point I tried to change gcc configuration (gcc-config) to
 version 4.1.1 but if that is the only way I understand I will have to
 reinstall everything.


you don't need to reinstall everything just for upgrading gcc to 4.1.x. Please 
read the update guide.

For your problem, I would try MAKEOPTS=-j1 first. Oh, and reset every 
LDFLAGS you might have set - what about emerge --info?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Gentoo from a floppy and then chroot to finish install on old PC

2007-05-07 Thread Philipp Riegger

On 07.05.2007, at 23:13, Richard Watson wrote:

Apart from the obvious comment to buy a CD drive ... Is there  
anyone out
there that has Gentoo 2.6 kernel that will boot of a floppy and can  
tell
me how to do it? The only other command I would need to perform  
would be

chroot.


I cannot tell you that, but if you can create all the partitions, you  
can copy the kernel from the livecd (using network, maybe) or any  
other prebuilt kernel to the boot partition, initialize the boot  
recort (using grub or whatever) and then boot the system.


You can also plug the harddisk in another pc to do the installation.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread Stuart Howard

This link to the forum though I realise it is nvidia based it may give
some further information the posts refer to a bug which further refers
to another bug which is the ATI issue but the general point is there.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-556528-highlight-nvidia+block.html

On 07/05/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Remy Blank remy.blank at pobox.com writes:


 Stay away from xorg-server-1.3 and kernel-2.6.20 or later until ATI
 releases new versions that work with them.


This is what I was looking for. I do not stay on top of these issues,
and the system is working reasonable well right now. I just
cannot get the logitech joystick (game controller) to work with
this rig. It works on 4 other intel/ati systems, or athlon/nividia
based systems but those all use the radeon drivers or nvidia drivers.


Thanks for bringing me up to speed on these issues!



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Re: [gentoo-user] slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Graham Murray wrote:
 Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  /etc is in CONFIG_PROTECT by default.  The point is, when a
  file doesn't exist yet, Portage will simply install it.  The
  config protection mechanism works only for existing files. 
  There's no way to tell Portage that I want to be alerted of
  _new config files too.

 Which is maybe something worth raising an enhancement bug on,

Done: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177560

Quote:
  When a file under CONFIG_PROTECT doesn't exist yet, Portage 
simply installs it.  It would be nice to have an option (say 
--protectforreal) that makes emerge create a .cfg__* file also 
when the destination file does not exist yet in the CONFIG_PROTECT 
area.  When first installing a system, one wouldn't want to use 
this option, but once a system is fully installed and stable, I 
wish to know about every change and addition in /etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remote ssh session does not reflect my keyboard inputs

2007-05-07 Thread Mick
On Monday 07 May 2007 16:55, Ryan Sims wrote:
 On 5/7/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When I ssh into a Ubuntu server certain keyboard actions (like pressing
  the Up or Left arrows) are not translated on the remote box, but give
  ASCII responses; e.g. pressing Left Arrow, gives $ ^[[D which is annoying
  as I have to delete part of the command I just typed to be able to
  correct it.
 
  How can I set it up so that my Gentoo keyboard presses and behaviour is
  reflected on the remote box?  Is it a matter of copying over the .bashrc
  file from the Gentoo box?

 I *think* this is a termcap/terminfo issue rather than a bash issue.
 What does 'echo $TERM' say in your ssh session?

Thanks Ryan,
=
$ echo $TERM
rxvt

$ sudo echo $TERM
rxvt
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which is the same like my Gentoo box.

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[gentoo-user] kernel install fails, update-grub not found [solved]

2007-05-07 Thread Devon Miller

Ugh what a mess. I'm posting what happened and why in case anyone else
stumbles into this.

I sync'd portage on Saturday. Then on yesterday I tweaked a kernel
config setting and grub.conf. When I tried to 'make install' I got an
error that update-grub was not found and would I like to make a boot
disk.

After much digging I tracked it down to debianutils-2.18. The
/sbin/mkboot it installs wants to use update-grub to modify grub.conf,
but debianutils-2.18 does not install update-grub.

It appears that for a brief period Saturday debianutils-2.18 was
released unmasked.

It's fixed now, but i spent a large chunk of yesterday tearing my hair
out trying to figure how I
screwed up the kernel (suspend2-sources) and/or grub.

Another sync will set things right with debianutils-2.18 arch masked.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Reducing disk usage

2007-05-07 Thread Troy Curtis Jr

On 4/26/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've found myself with a full hard disk and no obvious choices for
reducing usage.  Are there any not-so-obvious ways to free up hard
disk space?

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I don't know if this is *obvious* or not, but you might check your log
directory, /var/log.  I found my disk full one day because of a bunch
of brute force SSH attempts!  ( I was getting pretty close without
them, but they pushed it to the brink!)

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Re: [gentoo-user] remote ssh session does not reflect my keyboard inputs

2007-05-07 Thread Ryan Sims

On 5/7/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 07 May 2007 16:55, Ryan Sims wrote:
 On 5/7/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When I ssh into a Ubuntu server certain keyboard actions (like pressing
  the Up or Left arrows) are not translated on the remote box, but give
  ASCII responses; e.g. pressing Left Arrow, gives $ ^[[D which is annoying
  as I have to delete part of the command I just typed to be able to
  correct it.
 
  How can I set it up so that my Gentoo keyboard presses and behaviour is
  reflected on the remote box?  Is it a matter of copying over the .bashrc
  file from the Gentoo box?

 I *think* this is a termcap/terminfo issue rather than a bash issue.
 What does 'echo $TERM' say in your ssh session?

Thanks Ryan,
=
$ echo $TERM
rxvt

$ sudo echo $TERM
rxvt
=
which is the same like my Gentoo box.

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Ok, I may be a little out of my depth here, but we'll muddle through.
What does

bind -p | grep history

on each box tell you?  You could also try 'set -o history' on the box
that's giving you trouble. (I'm reneging on my idea re. termcap/info)


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[gentoo-user] Re: slocate's index

2007-05-07 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 07 May 2007, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
 Graham Murray wrote:
  Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   /etc is in CONFIG_PROTECT by default.  The point is, when a
   file doesn't exist yet, Portage will simply install it.  The
   config protection mechanism works only for existing files.
   There's no way to tell Portage that I want to be alerted of
   _new config files too.
 
  Which is maybe something worth raising an enhancement bug on,

 Done: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177560

 Quote:
   When a file under CONFIG_PROTECT doesn't exist yet, Portage
 simply installs it.  It would be nice to have an option (say
 --protectforreal) that makes emerge create a .cfg__* file also
 when the destination file does not exist yet in the CONFIG_PROTECT
 area.  When first installing a system, one wouldn't want to use
 this option, but once a system is fully installed and stable, I
 wish to know about every change and addition in /etc.

 Benno

It's an original idea, but the first comment to the report isn't 
encouraging...

I would add in a comment to the bug a pointer to the mailing list 
archive, but i can't find one, maybe reading this thread would be more 
convincing.

Ciao
Francesco
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