[gentoo-user] Re: Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry. I should have started that a number of the failures have come
 while doing revdep-rebuild. One seemingly large problem is that
 revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild packages that are no longer in portage
 so you have to remove those from the rebuild or attempt to change
 revision numbers by hand on the fly in the long command that
 revdep-rebuild -p creates.

revedep-rebuild -X. That's default in the rewritten version.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe the revdep-rebuild guys should (could?) include -X if it's the
 right thing to do?

They do.

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb suspend bug for mouse?

2007-09-13 Thread Thufir
On 9/12/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:23:52 -0700
 Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a run of the mill USB optical mouse which has worked fine for
  several years.  Recently it started stalling , hanging or
  freezing from gentoo.
 
  Haven't yet tried a different mouse.

 Perhaps it's just worn out, or perhaps the screen on the bottom is
 dirty or does not like your table top / mouse pad.

I don't think so, because I'm in Fedora using the same optical USB
mouse plugged into the same USB port on the same computer, using the
mouse on the same surface, and it works fine.

So, it must be something with X, GNOME or the kernel to my thinking.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:37 PM

 I've been messing with a standard x86, middle of the road Gentoo
 machine for over two days now. There must be 20 or 30 packages that
 won't build. Frustrating.
 
 Most of the problems are in and around getting Gnome updated. Typical
 of the problem, but definitely not limited to this, is the following
 sort of message. Unfortunately every one of the failing packages is
 giving different messages so there's nothing obvious to me here.
 
 What a mess! I've never in over 6 years of using Gentoo ever seen
 things in worse shape. Two days of this. No fun.
 
 I do think that a good part of this problem is more of the expat
 stuff. I had hoped it would be fixed up in portage before I got around
 to working on this machine but with upcoming death of the older
 versions of MythTV and the requirements to go to newer versions I had
 to get to work. Bummer. 2 days work and no end in sight.

rant
I have to fully agree with you. I used to run a mixture of ~x86 and
stable x86 on both my notebook and my server (when I was more naive).
Then I got tired of compiling every day some -r1 -r2 -rN minute ebuild
for a 100MB package. Grr. So I painfully ripped out all the ~x86 masks
and now my system is about 99% 'stable x86'. I thought, foolishly, at
the time, that this would ease my pain. I made the assumption that the
stable branch would be well tested and compile cleanly at the very
least. With the occasional minor googling or asking the list for a
simple snag here and there. Boy was that woefully optimistic.

Linux is painful enough as it is to use. 8 billion config files to worry
about screwing up. Another 4 million ebuild.log files to parse and act
upon after every update. rev-dep rebuilding. And then, as someone else
mentioned, the anxiety of the fact that if you don't update with some
frequency, you are so far out of date that an emerge system/world is a
dilemma whether to just format and start over. The old adage, if it
ain't broke, don't fix it can't even be applied for that very reason.
Nothing like having a production server S.T.B. because some stable
update hosed my box/config/settings, and then I have to scramble for the
next few hours tracking down solutions -- Exim, Dovecot, Apache, KDE,
Gnome all come to mind (my KDE is currently broken as of the emerge
update two days ago). 

Every time I find myself fighting with some package that won't compile,
or a needing a version of something that isn't marked x86 (like SVN
STILL!) that should be by now, or when I watch the 10 other developers
where I work who have Compiz working flawlessly on Ubuntu by simply
apt-get installing it, I wonder what am I hanging on to Gentoo for
(since my first install in 2004).

I REALLY love the theory behind it. I REALLY think/thought it has
potential. I REALLY love the customization. But is that all REALLY worth
the headaches. 

I literally triple boot my notebook now. Gentoo, XP and Ubuntu. The
Ubuntu Gnome/Compiz works great. I can't even get it to work in Gentoo.
SAME F'N HARDWARE! The stupid nVidia drivers are all whack and have
stopped supporting my GeForce 440 card -- I can't change the card so I'm
screwed with older drivers. Yet, somehow Ubuntu works in composite mode
(albeit a tiny bit pokie). WTF?

I look at the major notebook players like Dell and now Lenovo talking
about distros to support and they both choose Ubuntu. I look at
distro-watch and Ubuntu is #1, with gentoo #13 with 1/4 the votes.

I'm not quite ready to jump ship yet, but someone please tell me the
_very near_ future is brighter for Gentoo. Give me some hope...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:57:35 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

 Another 4 million ebuild.log files to parse and act
 upon after every update.

Those of us wishing to spend their time more usefully have portage email
the important bits instead of trying to read the files manually :-/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 13 September 2007 05:58:16 Dan Farrell wrote:
  berkdb = sys-libs/db. apr-util is slotted and 0.9.12 is in a
  different slot than 1.2.8.

 this might give you some idea of what packages might be effected by the
 nontrivial update of db:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends db
 [ Searching for packages depending on db... ]

Heh. I'm sorry but that command will produce more noise than useful info. 
For instance on the laptop I'm writing this from I have 6 different versions 
of sys-libs/db installed. The above command will show all installed packages 
that *may* [1] depend on any installed version of sys-libs/db...

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/179649/focus=179814

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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 13 September 2007 05:41:59 Mark Knecht wrote:
  This latest emerge pass seems to be working better. I did have to skip
  a couple of packages though. I'll go back and see if I can catch them
  with revdep-rebuild when it hopefully finishes up in the next hour.
[...]
 db2omf: Could not construct the OMF maintainer element.
   Add an author, corpauthor, editor, othercredit, or publisher
   element with the role attribute set to maintainer to epiphany.xml.
 make[2]: *** [epiphany-C.omf] Error 10
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/epiphany-2.16.3/work/epiphany-2.16.3/help'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/epiphany-2.16.3/work/epiphany-2.16.3'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 !!! ERROR: www-client/epiphany-2.16.3 failed.

I think you either need a later version of epiphany (2.18.x) or an earlier 
version of gnome-doc-utils (0.8.x). Since epiphany-2.18.2 is latest stable 
this is probably one of those cases where the -X for revdep-rebuild would 
make the whole difference...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 13. September 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:57:35 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
  Another 4 million ebuild.log files to parse and act
  upon after every update.

 Those of us wishing to spend their time more usefully have portage email
 the important bits instead of trying to read the files manually :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Daevid Vincent wrote:
 I wonder what am I hanging on to Gentoo for (since my first
 install in 2004).

 I REALLY love the theory behind it. I REALLY think/thought it has
 potential. I REALLY love the customization.

So ask yourself what customizations you made in Gentoo that you 
can't make in Ubuntu.

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[gentoo-user] sarg reports with squidguard

2007-09-13 Thread bijayant kumar
Hello to all,

I have configured sarg and squidGuard, but not able to create sarg reports of 
squidGuard logs. When i am creating reports it is not showing user's IP address 
in the reports. Please help me to create sarg reports with the squidGuard logs. 
I am not able to understand what is to be written under the 
squidguard_log_format in /etc/sarg/sarg.conf. Please help me.

Thanks and Regards


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[gentoo-user] -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs for Xen

2007-09-13 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xen_and_Gentoo#TLS_and_CFLAGS states, that
'-mno-tls-direct-seg-refs' is to be added to the CFLAGS.

Do I need this flag on my dom0, or just on my domU's?

Thanks,

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[gentoo-user] sed does not work on profile 2006.1

2007-09-13 Thread Kerry
When I try execute sed on Gentoo, I get -bash: /usr/bin/sed:  No such file or 
directory error message.  I tried installing binary version sed-4.1.5, and 
still the same result.  Here is the output of strace -f -F -v sed command:
execve(/usr/bin/sed, [sed], 
[MANPATH=/usr/local/share/man:/us..., HOSTNAME=salisbury.k12.mo.us, 
TERM=xterm, SHELL=/bin/bash, SSH_CLIENT=64.123.230.201 
37491 ..., QTDIR=/usr/qt/3, SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/2, USER=root, 
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:l..., PAGER=/usr/bin/less, 
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/terminf..., MAIL=/var/mail/root, 
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/..., PWD=/var/log, EDITOR=/bin/nano, 
QMAKESPEC=linux-g++, KDEDIRS=/usr, SHLVL=1, HOME=/root, 
PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/portage/pym, LESS=-R -M --shift 
5, LOGNAME=root, GCC_SPECS=, CVS_RSH=ssh, SSH_CONNECTION=64.123.230.201 
37..., LESSOPEN=|
lesspipe.sh %s, INFOPATH=/usr/share/info:/usr/sh..., OPENGL_PROFILE=ati, 
CONFIG_PROTECT=/var/bind /usr/sh..., _=/usr/bin/strace, 
OLDPWD=/etc/init.d]) 
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
dup(2)  = 3
fcntl(3, F_GETFL)   = 0x8002 (flags O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)
fstat(3, {st_dev=makedev(0, 9), st_ino=4, st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_nlink=1, 
st_uid=0, st_gid=5, st_blksize=1024, st_blocks=0, st_rdev=makedev(136, 2), 
st_atime=2007/09/13-09:08:42, st_mtime=2007/09/13-09:08:42, 
st_ctime=2007/09/10-15:15:08}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x2aac7000
lseek(3, 0, SEEK_CUR)   = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, strace: exec: No such file or di..., 40strace: exec: No such file 
or directory
) = 40
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x2aac7000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1)   = ?
Process 7407 detached

The following is the kernel and processor I am running:
Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #5 Thu Aug 18 07:56:24 CDT 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 
64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Is there something wrong with the environment?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Kerry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:46:29 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

  Those of us wishing to spend their time more usefully have portage
  email the important bits instead of trying to read the files
  manually :-/  
 
 elogv/elogviewer

claws-mail does it for me :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:32:40 +0200
Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The above command will show all installed packages 
 that *may* [1] depend on any installed version of sys-libs/db...

Isn't that kind of the point, though?  If you can't install the slotted
version you need, the command will list the programs that may require a
specific version, and you can perhaps update them to require a newer
version that is available.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't build pango

2007-09-13 Thread Jean-Philippe Caruana

Marzan, Richard non Unisys a écrit :

Try emerge --sync...Then visit
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-575655.html The first post worked
for me. Do what it asks and then re-emerge world. Then revdep-rebuild.


thanks ! this worked for me.

to sum up :
emerge -u1 expat
emerge -1 gettext XML-Parser

emerge fontconfig
emerge pango
emerge gtk+

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't build pango

2007-09-13 Thread Jean-Philippe Caruana

Jean-Philippe Caruana a écrit :

Marzan, Richard non Unisys a écrit :

Try emerge --sync...Then visit
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-575655.html The first post worked
for me. Do what it asks and then re-emerge world. Then revdep-rebuild.


thanks ! this worked for me.

to sum up :
emerge -u1 expat
emerge -1 gettext XML-Parser


sorry, I forgot that I re-emerged binutils and consors :
emerge -av1 binutils gcc glibc


emerge fontconfig
emerge pango
emerge gtk+



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RE: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
Really?...Portage can do that? because I would like to get portage on my
system to do that.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:00 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world
these days

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:57:35 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

 Another 4 million ebuild.log files to parse and act
 upon after every update.

Those of us wishing to spend their time more usefully have portage email
the important bits instead of trying to read the files manually :-/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot situation

2007-09-13 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 9/12/07, Lee Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Colleen Beamer wrote:
  This link tells nothing - it was from the first time I installed Gentoo
 on
  the new laptop.  This time I *did* configure sata into the kernel.  So
  *that* is not the issue.  And I'm not *that* stupid that I would repeat
 a
  previous mistake.  I truly thing something is screwed up in the
  kernel-sources for 6.22-gentoo-r5 cause  not matter what I select in the
  Sata section of the kernel config, nothing works.
 
 That matches my experience of 2.6.22-gentoo with my M1710.  I ended up
 rolling back to 2.6.18-gentoo-r7 out of frustration; I'm happy to
 provide my .config if that helps.



I would *so* appreciate this Lee!  Thanks!

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:05:57 -0500, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote:

 Really?...Portage can do that? because I would like to get portage on my
 system to do that.

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Step 2: Read /etc/make.conf.example, the part about PORTAGE_ELOG


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting USB Drive/MP3 PLayer

2007-09-13 Thread forgottenwizard
The point here is, it works. If anything it seemed slightly faster, but
considering I'm not too worried, I'll leave it as-is.

On 23:03 Wed 12 Sep , Neil Bothwick wrote:
 Hello forgottenwizard,
 
  Alright, I've got it. It doesn't mount via sda anymore, but by uba.
  Either way, it works. Thanks for the help.
 
 You don't normally want that, for one thing it is slower. Set
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB=n in your kernel config.
 
 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Can I clean contacts with isopropyl alcohol?

2007-09-13 Thread James
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto please.no.spam.here at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hi. I have instability in my PC and I highly suspect it is caused by hardware
problems in my TV card. I would like to clean its contacts 

If you have some corrosion, or scale build up, alcohol may not work. For
tougher issues on cleaning electrical surfaces, go to a hardware store
and get 'steel wool'. It is a disorganized bundle if very fine metal
fibers that can be used to clean  gold, stainless, glass, copper, tin
or just about any other surface you can image.

Make sure you put an air compressor on the card after using steel wool to
remove all of those micro sized particles both from the surface of the newly
cleaned contacts as well as over the entire surface of the PCB (circuit board).

Also if the bus slot is dirty or corroded, find and old card and insert it and 
remove it about 5 times to try to clean the contacts inside the buss slot. Also
use compressed air to clean out the buss slot.  For compressed air, you can buy
it in a can, or get a small card tire compressor, or even a 12VDC air pump that
home owners use to fill up inflatable toys around the hose. I attach a needle
for filling a backetball ball so that you get strong air pressure, at the tiny
tip for cleaning  up computers, keyboards and PCBs.

good luck,

James

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[gentoo-user] root can't login on console, but can ssh...

2007-09-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
I've posted this about two months ago without any replies. I've been
googling and trying things, but still can't get this to work like it used
to.

I simply want root to be able to login from console (tty[1-6]) or ssh
(pts/[0-9]) without a password. Currently ssh does work fine. It's only the
physical console that doesn't.

This WAS working perfectly, then PAM or some other ebuild broke it on me.

Just for sanity, I even assigned root a password, I now get a Password
prompt, but it STILL can't login. (positive I'm typing it right) It says
Login incorrect.

-Original Message-
From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:47 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] root can't login on console, but can ssh...

I have a LAMP development VMWare setup so that I can login as root sans
password. 

This was working fine until something recently changed that. 
It doesn't even prompt for the password, it just timesout after x
seconds.

Oddly I can ssh in as root (without the password as expected).

I have my daevid account without password and that logs in fine on the
console and ssh.

I can circumvent this behaviour by logging in as 'daevid', then 'sudo su
-' (which doesn't prompt for pw either), but I'd like it to work the way
it did.

Perhaps it was some PAM thing? Or login.defs? Or in pam.d/ ?

LAMP pam.d # cat login 
#%PAM-1.0

auth   required pam_securetty.so
auth   required pam_tally.so file=/var/log/faillog onerr=succeed
no_magic_root
auth   required pam_shells.so
auth   required pam_nologin.so
auth   include  system-auth

accountrequired pam_access.so
accountinclude  system-auth
accountrequired pam_tally.so deny=0 file=/var/log/faillog
onerr=succeed no_magic_root

password   include  system-auth

sessionrequired pam_env.so
sessionoptional pam_lastlog.so
sessionoptional pam_motd.so motd=/etc/motd
sessionoptional pam_mail.so

# If you want to enable pam_console, uncomment the following line
# and read carefully README.pam_console in /usr/share/doc/pam*
#sessionoptionalpam_console.so

sessioninclude  system-auth


LAMP ~ # cat /etc/securetty
# /etc/securetty: list of terminals on which root is allowed to login.
# See securetty(5) and login(1).
console
pts/0
pts/1
pts/2
pts/3
pts/4
pts/5
pts/6
pts/7
pts/8
vc/0
vc/1
vc/2
vc/3
vc/4
vc/5
vc/6
vc/7
vc/8
vc/9
vc/10
vc/11
vc/12
tty0
tty1
tty2
tty3
tty4
tty5
tty6
tty7
tty8
tty9
tty10
tty11
tty12
tts/0
ttyS0
 

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[gentoo-user] Upgrading from Beryl to Compiz-fusion

2007-09-13 Thread James Colby
All - 

Does anyone know if there is an upgrade path from Beryl to
Compiz-Fusion.  I am currently running Beryl on my laptop and would
like to try out the new Compiz-Fusion.  Do I need to unmerge the Beryl
packages before I install Compiz-Fusion?  

Thanks for any help that you may be able to give.

-James
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from Beryl to Compiz-fusion

2007-09-13 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 15:47 -0400, James Colby wrote:
 All - 
 
 Does anyone know if there is an upgrade path from Beryl to
 Compiz-Fusion.  I am currently running Beryl on my laptop and would
 like to try out the new Compiz-Fusion.  Do I need to unmerge the Beryl
 packages before I install Compiz-Fusion?  

I didn't unmerge Beryl first and it worked.

Nevertheless, I would still recommend:

$ emerge -C beryl
$ emerge -va --depclean
$ # install fusion


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Re: [gentoo-user] root can't login on console, but can ssh...

2007-09-13 Thread Philip Webb
070913 Daevid Vincent wrote:
 I simply want root to be able to login from console (tty[1-6])
 or ssh (pts/[0-9]) without a password. Currently ssh does work fine.
 It's only the physical console that doesn't.

There is a provision somewhere to disallow root logins,
so that mb your problem rather than anything to do with passwords:
have a look in such places as  /etc/login*/etc/security/* .
Just a quick suggestion in the absence of more informative help.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days

2007-09-13 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:35:50 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote:

Step 1: Stop top posting
Step 2: Read /etc/make.conf.example, the part about PORTAGE_ELOG


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[gentoo-user] desktop zoom

2007-09-13 Thread Martins
Hi,

I wonder is there a such tool like point and move around desktop/window and 
get zoomed picture in separate window? I think i saw something but cant 
recall to get right kayword. pls. hint me if any.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: metacity Woes[solved? you let me know]

2007-09-13 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
Surprisingly, it did not destroy my settings. The background and
everything was still there.

-Original Message-
From: Moshe Kamensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: metacity Woes[solved? you let me know]

Hi,

Thanks for the help. The problem for me with this approach is that it 
happens on a machine that I manage for my father on different continent.

I am afraid that if I do this all the settings for the desktop will 
disappear, he will not know how to set this up, and I also won't know 
since I don't understand the gnome configuration files. I will do it as 
a last resort, but I would rather understand what happens, and fix it.

Thanks,
Moshe

* Marzan, Richard non Unisys [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12/09/07
12:03]:
 Hello,
 
 
   I came across the same problem. I believe it happened during an
 upgrade or update of either gnome/gtk or libexpat. I know that the
 execution of metacity and such settings are set in the .gnome* files.
So
 as a last resort without any help I just figured; why not just delete
 the .gnome* directories with `rm -rf .gnome2 .gnome .gnome2_private`
and
 then restart X. I was shocked to have seen it work afterwards. I know
 for a fact that certain programs regenerate their config dirs if they
 don't exist and I believe that that is what happened. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Moshe Kamensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: metacity Woes
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't have a solution, just to mention that I have the same problem 
 (with gnome-2.18.2-r1). I guess the starting point would be: Where
goes 
 the output (and error) of whatever script starts the gnome session?
and 
 where in the config files does it say that metacity should start?
 
 Thanks,
 Moshe
 
 * Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11/09/07 21:27]:
  Every time I boot into Linux and log into GNOME I have to start
 metacity
  manually by su'ing in a terminal and issuing a
  
  # metacity  /dev/null 
  
  before I can get title bars and such that goes with it.  My wife's
  computer does the same thing.  Here's the info on my PC:
  
  camille ~ # emerge --info
  Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2,
glibc-2.5-r4,
  2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
  =
  System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
  Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
  Timestamp of tree: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:30:01 +
  distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port
 3632)
  [disabled]
  app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17
  dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
  dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
  dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
  sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2
  sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
  sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
  sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3,
1.9.6-r2,
  1.10
  sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
  sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
  sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
  virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r1
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
  CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
  CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
 /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
  CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
 /etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/
 /etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/
 /etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/
 /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
  CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
  DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
  FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
  GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo;
  LINGUAS=en fr es
  MAKEOPTS=-j2
  PKGDIR=/usr/portage-packages/camille
  PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--human-readable
  PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
  --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
  --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
 --exclude=/packages
  --filter=H_**/files/digest-*
  PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
  PORTDIR=/usr/portage
  PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
  SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
  USE=X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion
  berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli
  cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr
  dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb
  fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile
 hal
  iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java
 jikes
  joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi
  mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg mpm-leader mudflap
  mysql mythtv nas nautilus ncurses new-login 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: metacity Woes[solved? you let me know]

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 16:02 -0400, Moshe Kamensky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for the help. The problem for me with this approach is that it 
 happens on a machine that I manage for my father on different continent.  
 I am afraid that if I do this all the settings for the desktop will 
 disappear, he will not know how to set this up, and I also won't know 
 since I don't understand the gnome configuration files. I will do it as 
 a last resort, but I would rather understand what happens, and fix it.
 
 Thanks,
 Moshe
 

I've done it on two of our PCs here.  The only side effects I've seen
are that a few of the gnome-panel applets disappear and I had a couple
of icons in a drawer on the panel go away, but that's it...
 * Marzan, Richard non Unisys [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12/09/07 12:03]:
  Hello,
  
  
  I came across the same problem. I believe it happened during an
  upgrade or update of either gnome/gtk or libexpat. I know that the
  execution of metacity and such settings are set in the .gnome* files. So
  as a last resort without any help I just figured; why not just delete
  the .gnome* directories with `rm -rf .gnome2 .gnome .gnome2_private` and
  then restart X. I was shocked to have seen it work afterwards. I know
  for a fact that certain programs regenerate their config dirs if they
  don't exist and I believe that that is what happened. 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Moshe Kamensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: metacity Woes
  
  Hi,
  
  I don't have a solution, just to mention that I have the same problem 
  (with gnome-2.18.2-r1). I guess the starting point would be: Where goes 
  the output (and error) of whatever script starts the gnome session? and 
  where in the config files does it say that metacity should start?
  
  Thanks,
  Moshe
  
  * Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11/09/07 21:27]:
   Every time I boot into Linux and log into GNOME I have to start
  metacity
   manually by su'ing in a terminal and issuing a
   
   # metacity  /dev/null 
   
   before I can get title bars and such that goes with it.  My wife's
   computer does the same thing.  Here's the info on my PC:
   
   camille ~ # emerge --info
   Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4,
   2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
   =
   System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
   Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
   Timestamp of tree: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:30:01 +
   distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port
  3632)
   [disabled]
   app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17
   dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
   dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
   dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
   sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2
   sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
   sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
   sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
   1.10
   sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
   sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
   sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
   virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r1
   ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
   CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
   CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
   CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
   CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
  /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
   CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
  /etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/
  /etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/
  /etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/
  /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
   CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
   DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
   FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
   GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo;
   LINGUAS=en fr es
   MAKEOPTS=-j2
   PKGDIR=/usr/portage-packages/camille
   PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--human-readable
   PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
   --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
   --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
  --exclude=/packages
   --filter=H_**/files/digest-*
   PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
   PORTDIR=/usr/portage
   PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
   SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
   USE=X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion
   berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli
   cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr
   dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb
   fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile
  hal
   iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java
  jikes
   joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi
   mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg 

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from Beryl to Compiz-fusion

2007-09-13 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 20:33 -0400, James Colby wrote:
 Thanks, I used the above procedure and it compiled and runs well.  The
 only complaint that I have is that I have no windows decorations
 unless
 I open up a shell and manually execute emerald .  Any ideas on how to
 get emerald to run on login?  It seems to me like it should be started
 automatically. 

In CompizConfig go to /Effects/Window Decoration. Make sure it's enabled
and, if necessary, enter emerald for the command (mine is actually
blank which seems to indicate it's not necessary).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from Beryl to Compiz-fusion

2007-09-13 Thread Whitt Madden
have you looked at the wiki page on gentoo?
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_compiz-fusion

Your answer might be there.

On 9/14/07, James Colby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:37:48PM -0500, Whitt Madden wrote:
  I will second Albert's message.  I didn't unmerge Beryl, and unlike
 Albert I
  did have some issues.
 
  On 9/13/07, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 15:47 -0400, James Colby wrote:
All -
   
Does anyone know if there is an upgrade path from Beryl to
Compiz-Fusion.  I am currently running Beryl on my laptop and would
like to try out the new Compiz-Fusion.  Do I need to unmerge the
 Beryl
packages before I install Compiz-Fusion?
  
   I didn't unmerge Beryl first and it worked.
  
   Nevertheless, I would still recommend:
  
   $ emerge -C beryl
   $ emerge -va --depclean
   $ # install fusion

 Thanks, I used the above procedure and it compiled and runs well.  The
 only complaint that I have is that I have no windows decorations unless
 I open up a shell and manually execute emerald .  Any ideas on how to
 get emerald to run on login?  It seems to me like it should be started
 automatically.

 Thanks again for the help,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from Beryl to Compiz-fusion

2007-09-13 Thread James Colby
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:37:48PM -0500, Whitt Madden wrote:
 I will second Albert's message.  I didn't unmerge Beryl, and unlike Albert I
 did have some issues.
 
 On 9/13/07, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 15:47 -0400, James Colby wrote:
   All -
  
   Does anyone know if there is an upgrade path from Beryl to
   Compiz-Fusion.  I am currently running Beryl on my laptop and would
   like to try out the new Compiz-Fusion.  Do I need to unmerge the Beryl
   packages before I install Compiz-Fusion?
 
  I didn't unmerge Beryl first and it worked.
 
  Nevertheless, I would still recommend:
 
  $ emerge -C beryl
  $ emerge -va --depclean
  $ # install fusion

Thanks, I used the above procedure and it compiled and runs well.  The
only complaint that I have is that I have no windows decorations unless
I open up a shell and manually execute emerald .  Any ideas on how to
get emerald to run on login?  It seems to me like it should be started
automatically.

Thanks again for the help,
James
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to know current state of LCD

2007-09-13 Thread kou yu
I haven't merge X yet:(

On 9/13/07, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 kou yu wrote:
  I can turn on/off LCD by using vbetool
  vbetool dpms on/off
 
  But I can not find a way to know the current state of LCD. on? or off?
  Is there any method, command or something else to indicate the state of LCD?

 Use xset q - if you grep through there you will see a line that says
 something similar to Monitor is on.  I am assuming you are using X here...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot situation

2007-09-13 Thread Colleen Beamer
Lee Davis wrote:
 Colleen Beamer wrote:
 This link tells nothing - it was from the first time I installed Gentoo on
 the new laptop.  This time I *did* configure sata into the kernel.  So
 *that* is not the issue.  And I'm not *that* stupid that I would repeat a
 previous mistake.  I truly thing something is screwed up in the
 kernel-sources for 6.22-gentoo-r5 cause  not matter what I select in the
 Sata section of the kernel config, nothing works.

 That matches my experience of 2.6.22-gentoo with my M1710.  I ended up
 rolling back to 2.6.18-gentoo-r7 out of frustration; I'm happy to
 provide my .config if that helps.
 
I followed Lee's lead and installed the last known kernel that I had
that worked - genkernel-2.6.21-r4.  Now, I can boot, no problem.  And I
made no changes to my grub.conf file or my fstab file.

One piece of advice that I took from someone who posted in the thread
(Benno, I think) was that I recreated my partitions and file systems,
but prior to doing that I ran 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda'  However, I
still got the same error message about /dev/sda not being a valid block
device when I installed genkernel-2.6.22-r5.  So that's when I decided
to follow Lee's lead.

Before all this mess happened, I *did* have 2.6.22-r5 installed, but
when I installed that, it must have used the config from 2.6.21-r4.

Now, I'm on the road to being up and running again.

Regards,

Colleen

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[gentoo-user] getting GMT to use DST

2007-09-13 Thread Mat Harris

Hi All,

I have had a machine running for a little while without many problems, 
until I tried to use ntp to keep my clock in sync.


I have got my /etc/localtime and my /etc/conf.d/clock to reflect my GMT 
location, yet all timeservers I try to sync to put me an hour behind. I 
am in the UK and currently our clocks are forwards, or is it backwards?


Either way I cannot have my machine out 1 hour for half the year. What 
should my solution be?


TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] getting GMT to use DST

2007-09-13 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 04:55 +0100, Mat Harris wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have had a machine running for a little while without many problems, 
 until I tried to use ntp to keep my clock in sync.
 
 I have got my /etc/localtime and my /etc/conf.d/clock to reflect my GMT 
 location, yet all timeservers I try to sync to put me an hour behind. I 
 am in the UK and currently our clocks are forwards, or is it backwards?
 
 Either way I cannot have my machine out 1 hour for half the year. What 
 should my solution be?

probably because while you are in a GMT location, strictly speaking
you are not on GMT time.  GMT time does not include daylight savings,
AFAIK, otherwise everyone who referenced GMT would have to alter their
time according to whether both GMT and their timezone was on daylight
savings at that particular time - a big mess, especially for the
Southern Hemisphere, or places like where I live, that don't use DST.

You need to set /etc/conf.d/clock to GMT (if your bios keeps time in GMT
- up to you) and set /etc/localtime to London, or whatever.  I think...
I get confused sometimes :)

HTH,
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