[gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:34:41 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: What does this have to do with GNU tar and it adding superflous options? Quite a lot. -j et.al. are non-standard options. If a (badly written) script relies on the presence of -j, this script won't work with a POSIX compliant tar The script is only badly written if it is supposed to be POSIX compliant. Additional features can enhance a program Given that we're talking about use of non-standard options present only in GNU tar vs. easily accessible standard compliant ways of solving the same problem: No, a script is badly written, if it makes use of non-standard options. and make scripts using it more readable/efficient/compact, providing the environment does not require POSIX-compliance. e.g. portage can use tar-specific enhancements if tar is in system on all profiles. Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to POSIX. Another windmill to fight against. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: howto setup vsftpd and virtual hosts by NAME not by IP
On Wednesday 26 September 2007, Daevid Vincent wrote: the example /usr/share/doc/vsftpd-2.0.5-r3/examples/VIRTUAL_HOSTS only talks about how to do this with separate IP addresses, is there a way to have ftp.daevid.com and ftp.company.com all work from the same server IP but have different configs, users, directories? You can't do virtual hosting using domain names in ftp - unlike http, ftp doesn't support it. The best you can do is when different users login they see a different section of the directory tree. -- Crayon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?
Hello Dan Farrell, Seagate's customer service I've never dealt with. I just send in the drive, and a working one comes back in 60 days or so. That is customer service, albeit rather slow service. IBM replaced a faulty Deathstar drive in less than two weeks. -- Neil Bothwick Veni, vermini, vomui I came, I got ratted, I threw up signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Hello Alexander Skwar, Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to POSIX. Another windmill to fight against. Artificially limiting yourself to the lowest common denominator when better options are available is bad, and discourages evolution. POSIX specifies the minimum set of options and features, not the maximum. As long as the standards aren't broken, nothing is wrong, and adding new, useful and compatible features is one way that standards get improved. -- Neil Bothwick I don't know what makes you tick but I wish it was a time bomb. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] OO save error with 2.3
On up grading to openoffice 2.3 (src), I have problems saving passworded odt documents. error dialog contents are: Error saving the document doc_name, Error writing file. I can save it two or three times then the error message pops up. And I have heaps of disk space so thats not the problem. Am I the only on seeing this? Is it a: gentoo, openoffice, or my problem ? BillK -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alexander Skwar, Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to POSIX. Another windmill to fight against. Artificially limiting yourself to the lowest common denominator when better options are available is bad, and discourages evolution. Well, depends. Making use of non standard options when standard compliant options are avialable, is no-good evolution. It very much tastes of the way Microsoft handles standards. Eg. have a look at how MS treated Java or HTML (granted, Netscape wasn't much better either). Back to tar: Why use tar -j in scripts, when bzip2 | tar does the same thing? I very much disagree that tar -j is the better option here; in fact, I'd say that bzip2 | tar is the better option, as it works on a lot more systems than tar -j does. Heck, tar -j even does not work on all GNU tar implementations, as very old GNU tars don't have bzip2 support at all and -j wasn't always used for bzip2. POSIX specifies the minimum set of options and features, not the maximum. As long as the standards aren't broken, nothing is wrong, and adding new, useful and compatible features is one way that standards get improved. No, it's not. To improve a standard, you make sure that the standard gets amended and then you implement something. Not the other way around. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:58 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Back to tar: Why use tar -j in scripts, when bzip2 | tar does the same thing? I very much disagree that tar -j is the better option here; Either way requires that you first determine the type of compression used before you can decide where to pipe tar's output, if at all. Whereas something like tar xf somefile avoids the need to do file somefile and parse the output first. in fact, I'd say that bzip2 | tar is the better option, as it works on a lot more systems than tar -j does. Heck, tar -j even does not work on all GNU tar implementations, as very old GNU tars don't have bzip2 support at all and -j wasn't always used for bzip2. If you don't know the details of the platform running your script, you should of course stick to POSIX, which tar can do fine. But if your script in running in an environment you control, why not make use of more efficient methods? POSIX specifies the minimum set of options and features, not the maximum. As long as the standards aren't broken, nothing is wrong, and adding new, useful and compatible features is one way that standards get improved. No, it's not. To improve a standard, you make sure that the standard gets amended and then you implement something. Not the other way around. That's not how evolution works. Things are tried, some (most) fall by the wayside and others are accepted. As long as you don't break the standard with your enhancements, where's the harm in improvement? I know car analogies are tired, but it's like arguing that all cars should be designed to meet the minimum standards required by law, and if the law doesn't stipulate air conditioning, we don't need it - that example is usually true here in the UK :( -- Neil Bothwick The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:58 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Back to tar: Why use tar -j in scripts, when bzip2 | tar does the same thing? I very much disagree that tar -j is the better option here; Either way requires that you first determine the type of compression used before you can decide where to pipe tar's output, if at all. Whereas something like tar xf somefile avoids the need to do file somefile and parse the output first. Pardon? tar xf somefile doesn't do any compression at all. I don't get what you mean. in fact, I'd say that bzip2 | tar is the better option, as it works on a lot more systems than tar -j does. Heck, tar -j even does not work on all GNU tar implementations, as very old GNU tars don't have bzip2 support at all and -j wasn't always used for bzip2. If you don't know the details of the platform running your script, you should of course stick to POSIX, which tar can do fine. No, GNU tar is not completely POSIX compliant. The files it creates don't completely comply to the standard. But that's another story. But if your script in running in an environment you control, why not make use of more efficient methods? If there are more efficient methods: Maybe. But if the non standard options aren't more efficient, why use them at all? tar -j is a good example here: Internally, tar invokes the external bzip2 command. So with tar | bzip2 vs. tar -j, both are equally efficient. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:45:51 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Either way requires that you first determine the type of compression used before you can decide where to pipe tar's output, if at all. Whereas something like tar xf somefile avoids the need to do file somefile and parse the output first. Pardon? tar xf somefile doesn't do any compression at all. I don't get what you mean. No, but it does do whatever decompression is required. Of course, you do have to specify a compression method when creating a compressed archive. -- Neil Bothwick If only the good die young then what does that say about senior citizens? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OO save error with 2.3
For me, ooffice 2.3 (bin) cannot detect java environment. I setup system-vm and user-vm too. What if, java is required with save with password, but you also have no java? Cheers, István 2007. 09. 26, szerda keltezéssel 15.58-kor W.Kenworthy ezt írta: On up grading to openoffice 2.3 (src), I have problems saving passworded odt documents. error dialog contents are: Error saving the document doc_name, Error writing file. I can save it two or three times then the error message pops up. And I have heaps of disk space so thats not the problem. Am I the only on seeing this? Is it a: gentoo, openoffice, or my problem ? BillK -- eGroupWare, gLiveCD, gentoo és barátai http://www.osbusiness.hu „A humor a méltóság támasza, fölényünket hirdeti mindazzal szemben, amit a sors ránk mér.” (Romain Gary) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)
Hi, Am Dienstag, 25. September 2007 23:24:27 schrieb Mark Knecht: On 9/25/07, Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2007 schrieb Mark Knecht: Hi, Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at the command line? OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has multiple sound cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system, not the PC's sound card: maybe I missed that one in this thread, but did you look at xine's audio-configuration? Could you post the output of grep audio .xine/config here? Regards, Michael Hi Michael, Thanks for taking a look. Let me know if you see anything or want more info. Cheers, Mark afaik those are all default values, except audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0. I don't think, that's a problem. Does xine play every sound through the wrong device or only DVDs (5.1)? Maybe there's a stale asoundrc in your home, somehow redirecting plug:surround51:0 to the second device? I'm out of ideas now, it seems :( Regards, Michael dragonfly mark # cat .xine/config | grep audio #gui.post_audio_plugin:goom #gui.audio_mixer_method:Sound card audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0 # audio driver to use #audio.driver:auto #audio.a52.dynamic_range:0 # downmix audio to 2 channel surround stereo #audio.a52.surround_downmix:0 #audio.a52.level:100 #audio.device.alsa_default_device:default #audio.device.alsa_front_device:plug:front:default #audio.device.alsa_mixer_name:PCM #audio.device.alsa_mmap_enable:0 #audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AE S3=0x2 #audio.device.alsa_surround40_device:plug:surround40:0 #audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0 #audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Stereo 2.0 #audio.synchronization.passthrough_offset:0 # play audio even on slow/fast speeds #audio.synchronization.slow_fast_audio:0 # method to sync audio and video #audio.synchronization.av_sync_method:metronom feedback #audio.synchronization.force_rate:0 #audio.synchronization.resample_mode:auto # startup audio volume #audio.volume.mixer_volume:50 #audio.volume.remember_volume:0 # device used for CD audio #media.audio_cd.device:/dev/cdrom #media.audio_cd.drive_slowdown:4 #media.audio_cd.use_cddb:1 #media.audio_cd.cddb_cachedir:/home/mark/.xine/cddbcache #media.audio_cd.cddb_port:8880 #media.audio_cd.cddb_server:freedb.freedb.org # number of audio buffers #engine.buffers.audio_num_buffers:230 # priority for dvaudio decoder #engine.decoder_priorities.dvaudio:0 # priority for ffmpegaudio decoder #engine.decoder_priorities.ffmpegaudio:0 dragonfly mark # dragonfly mark # uname -a Linux dragonfly 2.6.20-gentoo-r1 #4 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 15 06:22:55 PDT 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux dragonfly mark # dragonfly mark # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH5 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5 Intel ICH5 with ALC655 at 0xfa081000, irq 21 1 [default]: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC Burr-Brown from TI USB Audio CODEC at usb-:00:1d.1-1, full s dragonfly mark # dragonfly mark # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14rc1 (Tue Jan 09 09:56:17 2007 UTC). dragonfly mark # -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
Am Mittwoch, 26. September 2007 00:26:51 schrieb b.n.: Michael Schreckenbauer ha scritto: Am Montag, 24. September 2007 schrieb Alexander Skwar: To keep GNU tar, you mean? Well, there's at least a reason to not ONLY have star: Star is made by Jörg Schilling, one of the biggest morons on the earth. Guess why some distributions no longer use cdrecord but switched to cdrkit? Keep your private rants offlist please. Your personal opinions on Jörg Schilling are completly irrelevant. I agree it was not a nice rant, but it's not an irrelevant opinion, because Schilling -let's say- idiosyncratic personality, has led, as Alexander pointed out, to the disapperance of cdrecord from most Linux distros and its substitution with cdrkit, for example. and I for myself drop cdrkit in every place I find it and replace it with the imo working tool named cdrecord. The problem is that of a tool that for licence etc. problems could be easily be dropped from a distribution. It's of a relatively unreliable developer (or, better stated, of unrealiable relationships between the dev and the community). I have no problems at all with Jörg, quite the opposite. Given this, I would think twice before substituting tar with a Schilling tool. The cdrecord scar is still painful. Good programmers often have big egos. See Linus for an example. When will distributions drop the kernel, because Linus made bad comments about gnome, cups or some other random program? The tool (star, cdrecord) works, is well supported and the programmer reacts in time to requests. What else do you expect? m. Greetings, Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:59:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: Pardon? tar xf somefile doesn't do any compression at all. I don't get what you mean. No, but it does do whatever decompression is required. Of course, you do have to specify a compression method when creating a compressed archive. Heh. unpack() doesn't even take advantage of that. It also doesn't use -j but it does use z to decompress tar.gz files.. ;) -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:45:51 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Either way requires that you first determine the type of compression used before you can decide where to pipe tar's output, if at all. Whereas something like tar xf somefile avoids the need to do file somefile and parse the output first. Pardon? tar xf somefile doesn't do any compression at all. I don't get what you mean. No, but it does do whatever decompression is required. Hey, that's a nice feature. I didn't know about that. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: star
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:08:11 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: No, but it does do whatever decompression is required. Hey, that's a nice feature. I didn't know about that. Be careful, it is not part of the POSIX standard and may cause premature hair loss ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Klingons do NOT sweat! They perspire with honour! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati 3d not working [SOLVED]
Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: In this thread, a guy with a similar problem solved by running opengl-update ati as root. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gentoo-linux-help/54709-ati-direct-render-problem.html http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gentoo-linux-help/54709-ati-direct-render-problem.html hope it helps 2007/9/25, Johannes Skov Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: ¿how are your kernel settings regarding acceleration? Hey Rafael I hope these are the settings you talk about: Character devices --- * /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) * ATI chipset support Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) Graphics support --- * Support for frame buffer devices * ATI Radeon display support [*] DDC/I2C for ATI Radeon support [*] Support for backlight control Otherwiser please hint me on what to set. -- Regards / Venlig hilsen Johannes Skov Frandsen *Address:* Egelundsvej 18, DK-5260 Odense S *Web:* www.omesc.com http://www.omesc.com | *Email:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hey everybody Got the driver working... finally when I changed my kernel settings to these: Character devices --- M /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) M ATI chipset support and reinstalled the ati driver everything started to work all of a sudden. Next project will be compiz. -- Regards / Venlig hilsen Johannes Skov Frandsen *Address:* Egelundsvej 18, DK-5260 Odense S *Web:* www.omesc.com | *Email:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] installation assistance
I would pay for _in place_ assistance to install gentoo / kde on my laptop I am living in northern italy Since i have never compiled everything from scratch (as the gentoo user should do), assistance would save my time and offer the opportunity to learn something. Moreover i would like to fine tune my kde desktop, that is disappointing me, as heavy kubuntu desktop user. Any suggestions about available professionals or companies? thank you Pol (please CC my personal address) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] installation assistance
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 12:31 +0200, Pol wrote: I would pay for _in place_ assistance to install gentoo / kde on my laptop I am living in northern italy Since i have never compiled everything from scratch (as the gentoo user should do), assistance would save my time and offer the opportunity to learn something. Moreover i would like to fine tune my kde desktop, that is disappointing me, as heavy kubuntu desktop user. Any suggestions about available professionals or companies? thank you Pol I would be happy to do it. Do you cover travel expenses? -- Albert W. Hopkins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?
On 25 Sep 2007, at 20:57, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: ... MAxtor sucks in my opinion. Seagate will replace a warrantied drive And who owns Maxtor?... Microsoft Windows Sucks, but that doesn't mean Xbox sucks because they're owned by MS. This isn't a great example. I have a customer with 3 dead Xbox 360s which display 3 red lights. This is fundamentally caused by producing cheap hardware with poor quality control on the research development process - it's a design fault that these units overheat. Microsoft have now acknowledged this particular fault and will replace units upto 3 years old if they're displaying this problem, but they have only recently done so, and many customers were previously disappointed that their 360s died outside of warranty. My customer is fortunate that he held onto his stacked them in a corner - I have no doubt that many were binned and ended up in landfill as they were considered beyond economic repair. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
On Mittwoch, 26. September 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:34:41 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: What does this have to do with GNU tar and it adding superflous options? Quite a lot. -j et.al. are non-standard options. If a (badly written) script relies on the presence of -j, this script won't work with a POSIX compliant tar The script is only badly written if it is supposed to be POSIX compliant. Additional features can enhance a program Given that we're talking about use of non-standard options present only in GNU tar vs. easily accessible standard compliant ways of solving the same problem: No, a script is badly written, if it makes use of non-standard options. a script that is not supposed to be portable to a POSIX-only system, can be written in any way the host system supports. So it is not 'broken' nor 'badly written'. Please calm down. Ok? and make scripts using it more readable/efficient/compact, providing the environment does not require POSIX-compliance. e.g. portage can use tar-specific enhancements if tar is in system on all profiles. Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to POSIX. Another windmill to fight against. no. Please stop that nonesense, ok? Gentoo scripts are gentoo scripts. Not AIX, Solaris or HP-UX scripts (systems who are very arcane in a lot of aspects). So gentoo scripts don't need to be portable, so they don't need to be POSIX compliant. And since gentoo is a linux distribution and almost all linux distributions use the gnu-userland, gnu-compatibility is more than enough for portability to other linux distributions. And some last questions: if POSIX is so great, why is there stuff like 'SUS', 'LSB', and why has POSIX many different versions? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] installation assistance
On 9/26/07, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 12:31 +0200, Pol wrote: I would pay for _in place_ assistance to install gentoo / kde on my laptop I am living in northern italy Since i have never compiled everything from scratch (as the gentoo user should do), assistance would save my time and offer the opportunity to learn something. Moreover i would like to fine tune my kde desktop, that is disappointing me, as heavy kubuntu desktop user. Any suggestions about available professionals or companies? thank you Pol I would be happy to do it. Do you cover travel expenses? -- Albert W. Hopkins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Ya, sign me up! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] auto proxy config (Firefox, and more)
Thanks for the answer ! How can I see what myIpAddress() returns ? I tried it in a simple html page (javascript) but it didn't work. Ben 2007/9/25, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 06:26:43PM +0200, Penguin Lover Benjamin Graf squawked: I tried this as a proxy automatic configuration file (*.pac), but it doesn't work : snip At school, it works correctly (it uses the proxy when it is necessary), but not at home. I think the myIpAddress is maybe not the right solution. The only thing I can think of is that maybe myIpAddress is not returning what you think it returns? W -- THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ladybree@ We'll begin with box, the plural is boxes; But the plural of ox is oxen, not oxes. One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese, Yet the plural of moose is never meese. You may find a lone mouse or a whole nest of mice, But the plural of house is houses, not hice. If the plural of man always is men, Why shouldn't the plural of pan be call pen? If I speak of a foot and you show me two feet, And I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet? If the singular is this and the plural these, Should a plural of kiss ever be keese? We speak of a brother and also of brethren, But though we say mother, we never say methren. Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him, But imagine the females - she, shis and shim! Sortir en Pantoufles: up 291 days, 19:26 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
Michael Schreckenbauer ha scritto: and I for myself drop cdrkit in every place I find it and replace it with the imo working tool named cdrecord. Sure, your choice. The problem is that of a tool that for licence etc. problems could be easily be dropped from a distribution. It's of a relatively unreliable developer (or, better stated, of unrealiable relationships between the dev and the community). I have no problems at all with Jörg, quite the opposite. It's not *you* that has to have problems with him. It's distributions. See below. Given this, I would think twice before substituting tar with a Schilling tool. The cdrecord scar is still painful. Good programmers often have big egos. See Linus for an example. When will distributions drop the kernel, because Linus made bad comments about gnome, cups or some other random program? The tool (star, cdrecord) works, is well supported and the programmer reacts in time to requests. What else do you expect? The problem with cdrecord (and J.S.) is that in a new version of cdrecord he bundled CDDL and GPL code together, thinking that it's right to distribute such an hybrid binary. Debian and a large number of other distros think instead that you cannot legally distribute a CDDL+GPL hybrid thing. So, to avoid legal concerns, they had to remove cdrecord from the distribution and fork the last GPL (or CDDL?)-only version of cdrecord. In our case: if you use a tool like that in your scripts and suddenly the Gentoo devs feel that tool has to be removed/replaced (not the case of cdrtools in Gentoo apparently, but...), you are in trouble. It's not matter of who is right/who is wrong (I personally have no serious opinion on that, because I didn't enter into the issue), but J.S. refused any attempt to settle down the problem with the Linux distribution, only putting blame on them and telling them oh who cares, f**k you. That's why someone has harsh opinions on him and can't trust relying on his tools. OTOH, I agree he's a truly skilled developer. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
Hi Joerg, Quite an honour to receive a mail from you. :) The reason why Debian started this is the missing will for quality oriented cooperation by a single person: Eduard Bloch. The reason why other Linux distributions followed Debian is that they believed the lies spread by Eduard Bloch. I see a good cooperation with 99.99% of the Linux commuinity but there are some Trolls who attack me. It seems that once you do a lot of work, some people become jealous and start to attack you. Doing popular things seems to imply that you become the target of attacks. I didn't follow the whole licence issue, nor I don't care that much about that (I was just explaining what I know from the Internet). The problem, as it seemed, is that you and Bloch staunchly refused to settle down the issue somehow. Please correct me if it's wrong. But I don't buy the people that attack me is just jealous/trolling argument, sorry. Assuming good faith is always better. To tell I'm right and B is lying is quite trollish too. To tell I'm right, B probably hasn't understood that... is another thing. And trying to do baby steps each in the direction of the other should always be strived for. It seems in this case that both failed to do that. Personally I'd have stepped down on licence issues if that meant more distribution for my code, but I'm not a serious programmer so I don't know if it holds for larger projects. However I'll have to review ye old flamewar to understand the issue. The problem, however, is that -being it your fault or not- that incident somehow made hard for some people to rely on your tools. :( I am frequently meeting with Linux (and other OSS) people and I get frequent invitations as speaker on Linux events. Noone from the people who attack me did ever meet me. Well, what does it mean? m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:44:20 +0200, b.n. wrote: In our case: if you use a tool like that in your scripts and suddenly the Gentoo devs feel that tool has to be removed/replaced (not the case of cdrtools in Gentoo apparently, but...), you are in trouble. In this case, that shouldn't be a problem, because the cdrkit ebuild installs cdrecord and mkisofs as symlinks to wodim and genisoimage respectively. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 41: Good grief signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder
I want to connect to another machine in my local network using ssh. Somehow I do not get it managed to write the fingerprint to the .ssh/known_hosts because of missing rights. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh 192.168.0.50 The authenticity of host '192.168.0.50 (192.168.0.50)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is c5:1f:98:93:f3:30:01:b1:95:3e:30:40:47:ef:97:35. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/herbert/.ssh/known_hosts). Password: Last login: Wed Sep 26 20:37:42 2007 from 192.168.0.20 Welcome to Darwin! rlbk-hmbg-de01:~ herbert$ exit logout Connection to 192.168.0.50 closed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -al /home/herbert/.ssh/ ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/. nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/known_hosts nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/.. nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung insgesamt 0 d? ? ? ? ? ? . d? ? ? ? ? ? .. d? ? ? ? ? ? known_hosts I think, it has to be a stupid mistake. I did windose ~ # chown herbert /home/herbert/.ssh windose ~ # chgrp users /home/herbert/.ssh but this did not help?? Regards Herbert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder
Am Mittwoch, 26. September 2007 20:59:55 schrieb Herbert Laubner: I think, it has to be a stupid mistake. I did windose ~ # chown herbert /home/herbert/.ssh windose ~ # chgrp users /home/herbert/.ssh but this did not help?? Do a 'chown -R herbert:users ~/.ssh' because your executed command didn't change the permissions of the files inside of the directory, just the permissions of the directory itself. Keep in mind that your directory and the files inside need the following permissions: - rw--- So just do a 'chmod -R u+rw ~/.ssh chmod -R go-rwx ~/.ssh' and you should be fine. Regards, Elias P. -- A really nice number: 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder
On Wednesday 26 September 2007, Herbert Laubner wrote: I want to connect to another machine in my local network using ssh. Somehow I do not get it managed to write the fingerprint to the .ssh/known_hosts because of missing rights. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh 192.168.0.50 The authenticity of host '192.168.0.50 (192.168.0.50)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is c5:1f:98:93:f3:30:01:b1:95:3e:30:40:47:ef:97:35. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/herbert/.ssh/known_hosts). Password: Last login: Wed Sep 26 20:37:42 2007 from 192.168.0.20 Welcome to Darwin! rlbk-hmbg-de01:~ herbert$ exit logout Connection to 192.168.0.50 closed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -al /home/herbert/.ssh/ ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/. nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/known_hosts nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/.. nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung insgesamt 0 d? ? ? ? ? ? . d? ? ? ? ? ? .. d? ? ? ? ? ? known_hosts I think, it has to be a stupid mistake. I did windose ~ # chown herbert /home/herbert/.ssh windose ~ # chgrp users /home/herbert/.ssh but this did not help?? I cannot see what your access rights are (all I got was ? as shown above). Add -r to chgrp to recursively change the files under it. Finally, if the character d is correct for directory, then your known_hosts is not a file as it should be, but perhaps by mistake you created it as a directory and have not adapted your ssh_config, or ~/.ssh/config to reflect that. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] konsole doesn't always seem to refresh
I've been having a weird an inconsistent issue with konsole. Suppose I'm in a directory with a lot of files, like my mp3 folder. Then suppose I want to play one with, say, mplayer. So I type [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/booty/data/music $ mplayer Yo and I hit tab to get it to do some completion. The weird thing is that I often will hear the beep, signifying that it needs me to type the next character(s) to further specify the file, but it won't show what it has typed so far. In other words, bash has already written things out to stdout, but I still see [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/booty/data/music $ mplayer Yo in konsole. This doesn't happen if I am in one of the Atl-Fn terminals, which leads me to believe it's a konsole issue. Another time I see this behavior is after a program is done it doesn't always give me back the prompt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/booty/data/music $ If I type something all of a sudden it shows up. It seems like konsole isn't flushing its output buffers when it should. Is this something I can configure better, or a bug, or what? -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder
On Wednesday 26 September 2007, Herbert Laubner wrote: I want to connect to another machine in my local network using ssh. Somehow I do not get it managed to write the fingerprint to the .ssh/known_hosts because of missing rights. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh 192.168.0.50 The authenticity of host '192.168.0.50 (192.168.0.50)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is c5:1f:98:93:f3:30:01:b1:95:3e:30:40:47:ef:97:35. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/herbert/.ssh/known_hosts). Password: Last login: Wed Sep 26 20:37:42 2007 from 192.168.0.20 Welcome to Darwin! rlbk-hmbg-de01:~ herbert$ exit logout Connection to 192.168.0.50 closed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -al /home/herbert/.ssh/ ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/. nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/known_hosts nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung ls: Zugriff auf /home/herbert/.ssh/.. nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung insgesamt 0 d? ? ? ? ? ? . d? ? ? ? ? ? .. d? ? ? ? ? ? known_hosts Ouch. That's file system corruption. You need to fsck that disk right now. I once saw similar stuff on a reiser filesystem and the only thing that helped was --rebuild-tree. Good luck on your end. I think, it has to be a stupid mistake. I did windose ~ # chown herbert /home/herbert/.ssh windose ~ # chgrp users /home/herbert/.ssh but this did not help?? Two reasons: 1. You only chowned the directory itself, not the files in it. What you probably wanted was chown -R herbert:users /home/herbert/.ssh 2. The filesystem metadata is corrupt, so you wont be able to do anything in that directory anyway. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: howto setup vsftpd and virtual hosts by NAME not by IP
Crayon Shin Chan wrote: You can't do virtual hosting using domain names in ftp I think wu-ftpd does support virtual ftp-hosting using domain-names. The only limitation comes from single common passwd file, i.e. you can not have two different users on two different virtual ftp-server having the same login name... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)
On 9/26/07, Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP afaik those are all default values, except audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0. I don't think, that's a problem. Does xine play every sound through the wrong device or only DVDs (5.1)? Maybe there's a stale asoundrc in your home, somehow redirecting plug:surround51:0 to the second device? I'm out of ideas now, it seems :( Regards, Michael Hi Michael, Thanks for responding. As I stated in the original thread, long since cast the the email bone pile, the only application that seems to have a problem on this machine is xine. Aqualung (an audio file CD player) sends audio to the Intel chip. mplayer, playing DVDs, sends audio to the Intel chip. Only xine by default is sending audio to the external USB converter. The problem in xine is not specific to DVDs. It does the same thing playing CDs. Note that with Aqualung I can reroute audio to the external USB converter by purposely routing audio to the ':1' sound device, exactly as Alsa should perform I believe. As far as I can tell the machine has neither an asound.state file or any .asoundrc files: dragonfly ~ # slocate .asoundrc dragonfly ~ # slocate asound.state /var/lib/alsa/asound.state dragonfly ~ # Also, the problem is not specific to a user. It happens in my account, my wife's account and my son's account. It seems to be a global issue. As background, I have a second machine with dual sound cards. It has the same generic Intel HDA audio device in it. It's second sound card is an RME HDSP9652. xine works fine on that machine. Audio goes to the Intel chip as it should. I'm at a complete loss on this one. It's starting to feel as if it might be an Alsa issue and specific to USB audio. As I've gotten no response from the xine-users list and this seems to be beyond the typical Gentoo issue I suppose I might try those folks, assuming no one else here has any experiments for me to try. Thanks again for your help. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder
d? ? ? ? ? ? . d? ? ? ? ? ? .. d? ? ? ? ? ? known_hosts Ouch. That's file system corruption. You need to fsck that disk right now. I once saw similar stuff on a reiser filesystem and the only thing that helped was --rebuild-tree. Good luck on your end. I hope it's not. I removed that .ssh folder as root and re-created it as normal user. Works (for now) Herbert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder [SOLVED]
I cannot see what your access rights are (all I got was ? as shown above). Add -r to chgrp to recursively change the files under it. Finally, if the character d is correct for directory, then your known_hosts is not a file as it should be, but perhaps by mistake you created it as a directory and have not adapted your ssh_config, or ~/.ssh/config to reflect that. I just deleted as root the .ssh folder and created it as normal user again, no it works! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: howto setup vsftpd and virtual hosts by NAME not by IP
-Original Message- From: Jarry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:24 PM Crayon Shin Chan wrote: You can't do virtual hosting using domain names in ftp I think wu-ftpd does support virtual ftp-hosting using domain-names. The only limitation comes from single common passwd file, i.e. you can not have two different users on two different virtual ftp-server having the same login name... Jarry Thanks for the reply. Isn't wu-ftpd very insecure? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset
I hope this isn't the wrong place to ask this, but I need help finding a chipset for an admitedly cheap tuner. The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards. All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not, really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards. All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not, really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards. All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not, really. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:38:45 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by changing the jumpers on the two IDE drives in this particular PC and telling the BIOS to boot from the 2nd drive. And updating grub and fstab, of course. changing the jumpers on the two drives? You generally don't have to change drive jumpers to switch priority in the BIOS (or physically), although it might be necessary in certain circumstances I guess. The first drive is for Micro$haft, which I still need for certain tasks. If you wouldn't mind satisfying my curiosity, what does the jumper do? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?
--- Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dan Farrell, Seagate's customer service I've never dealt with. I just send in the drive, and a working one comes back in 60 days or so. That is customer service, albeit rather slow service. IBM replaced a faulty Deathstar drive in less than two weeks. My SATA drive, Western Digital, was replaced in three days. The tech took my card number and immediately sent off the new drive with the proviso that he would charge me for the new one if the old one didn't arrive in 30 days. -- Neil Bothwick Veni, vermini, vomui I came, I got ratted, I threw up Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
If you wouldn't mind satisfying my curiosity, what does the jumper do? Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. But perhaps you're thinking of something else. I'm astonished that someone doesn't know that. If you ever put a IDE drive in a PC you would have to know what the jumper is for. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset
Hi! I don't know if it helps, but I looked at the windows driver and it's name (in the inf file) is tridvid -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. But perhaps you're thinking of something else. I'm astonished that someone doesn't know that. If you ever put a IDE drive in a PC you would have to know what the jumper is for. Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with jumpers on a hard drive (which are prone to error). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 13:30 -0700, Grant wrote: Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. Connection to/from localhost. Do you have some process running on the same server that's doing monitoring? The 400 reply is even more interesting. I think the request should be GET / HTTP/1.1 or similar which is probably why it is returning a 400. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:38:44 -0500 Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with jumpers on a hard drive (which are prone to error). Some bioses also support swapping device priority in the bios's software. I seem to have forgotten entirely about the master/slave thing... it's been a while since I put two drives on one cable. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No access as normal user to my own.ssh-folder
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:21:26 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ouch. That's file system corruption. You need to fsck that disk right now. I once saw similar stuff on a reiser filesystem and the only thing that helped was --rebuild-tree. Good luck on your end. Wrong! In this case the user probably has execute permissions on the directory so they can list the file names, but doesn't have read permissions on the files in the directory, so ls can't list the permissions, attributes, so on. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:29:45 -0500 forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this isn't the wrong place to ask this, but I need help finding a chipset for an admitedly cheap tuner. The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards. All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not, really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards. All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not, really.The product in question is the Sabrent TV-USB20 tuner (USB-powered). I have searched google for awhile, and I can't seem to find the chipset for this card, but mostly just results on very specific cards. All I need to know is if this tuner will work with Gentoo or not, really. Have you looked at 'lsusb' output yet? That usually gives data relevant to the chipset (for example, what it is and who made it ;) ) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OO save error with 2.3
Thanks - its starting to look like its me. I did have a similar problem (not as bad) a year or two ago, and it went away on the next update so I assumed it was OO then. How to fault find it though ... BillK On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 19:36 +0100, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 26 September 2007, Pongracz Istvan wrote: For me, ooffice 2.3 (bin) cannot detect java environment. I setup system-vm and user-vm too. What if, java is required with save with password, but you also have no java? I have no Java on my machine and can save/open documents and spreadsheets with passwd protection. However, I am using the OOo binary in this box. Unless someone else with no Java and the source package installation can repeat this, I'll try from another box of mine that also has no Java, but is using the source package (I'm planning to update OOo source to 2.3 this weekend). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:25 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:29:45 -0500 forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Have you looked at 'lsusb' output yet? That usually gives data relevant to the chipset (for example, what it is and who made it ;) ) Also take the : hex number (see 413c:3010 below) that lsusb spits out, and google that if lsusb itself gives unknown. It basically specifies the manufacturer and chipset/model. lsbusb -v is also helpful. i.e., lsusb ... Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3010 Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:38 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. ... Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with jumpers on a hard drive (which are prone to error). Maybe my memory is getting out of date (old age!) - but I thought you were supposed to avoid csel as it often didnt work correctly in a multidrive situation? So I have always manually set master/slave by jumper (almost all my systems are multi drive BillK -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:38 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. ... Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with jumpers on a hard drive (which are prone to error). Maybe my memory is getting out of date (old age!) - but I thought you were supposed to avoid csel as it often didnt work correctly in a multidrive situation? So I have always manually set master/slave by jumper (almost all my systems are multi drive BillK Same here on mine. My cables are straight through and I use the jumper to select which is master/slave. My BIOS is always set to boot hd0 or something like that. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 08:47 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:38 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. ... Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with jumpers on a hard drive (which are prone to error). Maybe my memory is getting out of date (old age!) - but I thought you were supposed to avoid csel as it often didnt work correctly in a multidrive situation? So I have always manually set master/slave by jumper (almost all my systems are multi drive I have never had cable select work for me - I find it is highly dependant on the specific IDE cable, drive, and bios combination. I _always_ use master / slave jumpers, and don't even bother with cable select. Even if I have only one drive, cable select has still failed for me, resulting in no drives being detected. but maybe that's just me...! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au printk(KERN_CRIT PFX Reboot didn't ?\n); linux-2.6.6/drivers/char/watchdog/softdog.c -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge xine-ui fails
Hi group, Trying to emerge xine-ui stopped here: snip make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330/work/ffmpeg/vhook' !!! ERROR: media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1621: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 973: Called qa_call 'src_compile' ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330.ebuild, line 169: Called die !!! make failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. !!! A complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/media-video:ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330:20070927-001851.log'. Someone on the gentoo forum had the same problem and solved it by removing the -combine flag. I don't know why he calls it the *minus* combine flag. I always thought the minus sign means it isn't being used. Anyways, there's no such flag, minus or otherwise, in the output of emerge -av xine-ui: localhost heathen # emerge -av xine-ui These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330 [0.4.9_p20060302] USE=X%* encode ieee1394 mmx ogg oss sdl truetype vorbis zlib -a52 -aac (-altivec) -amr -debug* -doc -dts -imlib* -network -test -theora -threads -v4l -x264 -xvid 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.4-r2 USE=X alsa arts dvd esd gtk ipv6 mad opengl oss sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xv -a52 -aac -aalib (-altivec) -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -fbcon -flac -gnome -imagemagick -libcaca -mmap -mng -modplug -musepack -nls -pulseaudio -samba -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -wavpack -xcb -xinerama -xvmc 6,856 kB [ebuild N] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.5 USE=X ncurses readline -aalib -curl -debug -libcaca -lirc -nls -vdr -xinerama 2,546 kB Can someone suggest a fix? Maxim Wexler Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. Connection to/from localhost. Do you have some process running on the same server that's doing monitoring? The 400 reply is even more interesting. I think the request should be GET / HTTP/1.1 or similar which is probably why it is returning a 400. I'm not doing any sort of monitoring like that. What is that 470? I noticed the log entries always include that, at least for the last 10 days. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:03:27 +0930 Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never had cable select work for me - I find it is highly dependant on the specific IDE cable, drive, and bios combination. I _always_ use master / slave jumpers, and don't even bother with cable select. Even if I have only one drive, cable select has still failed for me, resulting in no drives being detected. but maybe that's just me...! Actually I do that too, but as little as possible. I just put grub on the master drive and then, if i'm worried about isolating windows and linux, i can install windows normally on a seperate drive with the linux drive disabled or unplugged. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. That make sense, since 400 means 'bad request' the culprit probably fails a preset number of times and then gives up. Perhaps 127.0.0.1 is the setting for something in the absence of a sane configuration - in other words, it might be tricky to track this one down. You'll have to let us know what gurific sleuthing techniques you employ to track down the bad guys. What do you mean by bad guys? I made a mistake in my initial post. The 127.0.0.1 entries always show up in ssl_access_log, not access_log. Also, I noticed that a huge block of them always appears at the very beginning of each day's ssl_access_log at exactly 3:10AM. You should perhaps use combined logging so you get more information, like the user agent and such. right now you're using 'common' logging which has the additional disadvantage that it doesn't give you particularly useful information if you decide to use a statistical analyzer like awstats on your archive of logs from the past umpteen years. The user agent might be useful for debugging purposes. I switched ssl_access_log temporarily to the combined format, and it was definitely working, but the 127.0.0.1 error looked exactly as it did in common format with no extra information. You might also consider running tcpdump for a few hours or so, or something, and have it watch for that port and interface and run ps or something if you get output from it. Or use iptables logging for the job, if you'd rather do that. Any specific commands or even just certain parameters I should look into? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] font corruption ???
My wife uses my gentoo workstation with Open Office Writer to prepare documents for my son's Boy Scout troop and has encountered printing problems. The environment is cups-1.2.10-r1, openoffice-bin-2.3.0, xorg-x11-7.2, xorg-server-1.3.0.0, etc. After starting OOw, the first document (typically a single page) is fine. Reprinting it, gives garbled output. An example is word When: printing as $ henC: and Where: printing as $ hereC. Typically capital letters, digits and punctuation are off (with the same wrong character for the same original character, i.e. $ instead of W, ) instead of S, etc). Exiting OOw, restarting it, and printing the document gives similar results -- first copy good, second copy munged. I don't think the problem is a printer issue as it (a networked Brother 7820N) seems to work fine off our kids' WinXP machine. Anybody seen this problem or have suggestions how to fix it? Thanks. David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:51 -0700, Grant wrote: I'm not doing any sort of monitoring like that. What is that 470? I noticed the log entries always include that, at least for the last 10 days. 470 is the size of the HTTP response (read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/logs.html). The client is coming from the loopback device, i.e. the same machine as the server. So it's something running on that machine talking to the server. Are you sure you know what's running on your machine? As another poster said, change your logging format and you should get more information. See the above link and check your config. -a -- Albert W. Hopkins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] NFS mount fail
I get this error when mounting an nfs share: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking Either use -o nolocks to keep locks local, or start statd. Anyone know what the problem might be? I followed the gentoo-wiki nfs guide @ http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Share_Directories_via_NFS rsize and wsize have been set on my client. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:51:31 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. Connection to/from localhost. Do you have some process running on the same server that's doing monitoring? The 400 reply is even more interesting. I think the request should be GET / HTTP/1.1 or similar which is probably why it is returning a 400. I'm not doing any sort of monitoring like that. What is that 470? I noticed the log entries always include that, at least for the last 10 days. - Grant To be sure, you have to check the fields defined in your log format variable in the configuration. The date and source IP address fields are obvious. The dashes mean field is empty. My guess is that one of those is for http_user. 470 most probably is the http error code (means bad request) and the last field with value 470 would be bytes sent. Again: I'm just guessing. If it was up to me, I'd check the config files out and do some googling to get the meaning of those fields and their values. -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} [typo] Strange apache2 access_log entries
those is for http_user. 470 most probably is the http error code (means bad request) and the last field with value 470 would be bytes sent. The first line should read those is for http_user. 400 most probably is the http error code. 400 instead of 470. Sorry for the typo. -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo User Guide XML error
I downloaded the Gentoo User Guide to read the install section prior to planning installation of Gentoo on my new machine. Dillo has no problem opening the file (Lynx can't read XML), but Epiphany, Firefox Konqueror all refuse with an XML error : XML Parsing Error: mismatched tag. Expected: /link. Location: file:///home/purslow/cr/gentoo/anb3/handbook-x86.xml Line Number 12, Column 226: link rel=search type=application/opensearchdescription+xml href=http://www.gentoo.org/search/archives-gentoo-org.xml; title=Gentoo List ArchivestitleGentoo Linux Documentation -- Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook/title/headbody bgcolor=#ff -^ The pointer is under the 'h' of 'head' on my screen. I am amazed to find an error in a Gentoo doc, esp one like this. Can anyone offer advice ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo User Guide XML error : solved ?
Following the usual procedure in such cases of trying simple changes, I changed the file extension to '.html' Epiphany now has no problem. Does anyone have any comment on this strange sequence of events ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: howto setup vsftpd and virtual hosts by NAME not by IP
On Thursday 27 September 2007, Jarry wrote: Crayon Shin Chan wrote: You can't do virtual hosting using domain names in ftp I think wu-ftpd does support virtual ftp-hosting using domain-names. I would love to know how it does the impossible - since the ftp protocol doesn't know anything about domain names :) The only limitation comes from single common passwd file, i.e. you can not have two different users on two different virtual ftp-server having the same login name... That's because it simply boils down to ftp not being able to support virtual name hosting. In reality, the above fudge goes something like this: domain: ftp.virtual.a.example.com user/pass: usera/passa directory: /var/ftp/usera domain: ftp.virtual.b.example.com user/pass: userb/passb directory: /var/ftp/userb userb can actually login using either ftp.virtual.a.example.com or ftp.virtual.b.example.com. The different domains is just a convenience for the users and makes not one bit of difference to an ftp server because it only knows about which IP address(es) to listen to. -- Crayon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset
On 08:43 Thu 27 Sep , W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:25 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:29:45 -0500 forgottenwizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Have you looked at 'lsusb' output yet? That usually gives data relevant to the chipset (for example, what it is and who made it ;) ) Also take the : hex number (see 413c:3010 below) that lsusb spits out, and google that if lsusb itself gives unknown. It basically specifies the manufacturer and chipset/model. lsbusb -v is also helpful. i.e., lsusb ... Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3010 Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list All great suggestions, except I'm hoping to see if it might work before I buy it. I really don't like the prospect of spending money on hardware just for things to turn out that it doesn't work in Linux. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
I'm not doing any sort of monitoring like that. What is that 470? I noticed the log entries always include that, at least for the last 10 days. 470 is the size of the HTTP response (read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/logs.html). The client is coming from the loopback device, i.e. the same machine as the server. So it's something running on that machine talking to the server. Are you sure you know what's running on your machine? I sure hope so. It's a dedicated machine. As another poster said, change your logging format and you should get more information. See the above link and check your config. I tried combined logging format, verified it was working, but no more information was printed to the log file for those errors. What else can I do to track this down? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. Have you tried the netstat -p ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help finding a tv tuner card's chipset
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 23:40 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote: All great suggestions, except I'm hoping to see if it might work before I buy it. I really don't like the prospect of spending money on hardware just for things to turn out that it doesn't work in Linux. take your laptop into the store. Or if you don't have a laptop, take a livecd with lsusb, lshw, etc. on it. If they won't accommodate that, shop somewhere else ;) If you're buying online, find a local store that has the same card and do the same thing. If you don't have any local stores, ... um, post to this list!! HTH! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I have defined the hundred per cent American as ninety-nine per cent an idiot. -- George Bernard Shaw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xine-ui fails
maxim wexler wrote: snip make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330/work/ffmpeg/vhook' Hmm, can you show us a few more lines before this? The error isn't obvious yet... -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list