Re: [gentoo-web-user] Ebuild for Tiny Tiny RSS
Hi Patrick. В Чтв, 30/10/2008 в 10:41 +0800, Patrick Nagel пишет: It's my first webapp ebuild, and one of my first ebuilds at all, so there may be newbish mistakes in it. I would appreciate if anybody with more experience could have a look at it. Well, in general it looks good. But still some things could be improved. Just run repoman full in www-apps/tt-rss directory and fix all warnings besides ebuild.allmasked. Also why do you dodoc README and then cp that README in MY_HTDOCSDIR? dodoc README cp -R * ${D}/${MY_HTDOCSDIR} If it's ok, maybe it could be put into the overlay? BTW, do you want to maintain this package later? If so I'd suggested you to look at sunrise project: http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki you'll be able to maintain this package very easily there. -- Peter.
[gentoo-user] Re: unmerge boo_boo
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: Well, com_err broken openssl which broke wget with ssl USE flag set. I forgot to mention that part. :) Disable ssl USE flag when you rebuild wget, then you can download everything else you need to rebuild. When you're done, you can rebuild wget with SSL and should probably do a revdep-rebuild to see if anyhing else got missed. If you don't have the current wget sources in distfiles, see if you have /any/ and try to rebuild the exact version, that way you don't need to download manually or copy from another PC. I'm not having any luck with scp, or putting stuff on a usb stick to copy onto the broken system. Maybe I should try http do download wget? In //usr/portage/net-misc/wget I have: -rw-r--r-- 1 root 15793 Aug 16 12:09 ChangeLog -rw-r--r-- 1 root 4392 Aug 16 12:09 Manifest drwxr-xr-x 2 root 176 Feb 16 2008 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root 165 Dec 30 2007 metadata.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1851 Jan 28 2008 wget-1.10.2.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1967 Feb 16 2008 wget-1.11-r1.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1899 Jun 16 18:06 wget-1.11.1.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1911 May 6 07:40 wget-1.11.2.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1908 Aug 14 12:07 wget-1.11.3.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1911 Aug 16 11:39 wget-1.11.4.ebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1616 Oct 22 2007 wget-1.9.1-r5.ebuild but no wget*.tar.bz2 in /usr/portage/distfiles/ It's late for me. I'm going to work on this tomorrow Ideas?
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge boo_boo
2008/10/31 James [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I've done it now, being in too big of a hurry. After an emerge --sync, and the blocking packages, I got in a hurry, did not think and ran: emerge --unmerge sys-libs/ss sys-libs/com_err sys-fs/e2fsprogs sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs Hi James! This is the cause what you should use revdep-rebuild after emerge -avt --deep --newuse --update world is done. András -- - - -- Csanyi Andras -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!.-- Cromwell
Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?
2008/10/30 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Hi, I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using? I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware. same here. Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem. I use portage-2.1.4.5 on x86. -- - - -- Csanyi Andras -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!.-- Cromwell
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge boo_boo
Am Freitag 31 Oktober 2008 06:07:12 schrieb ext James: Well, I've done it now, being in too big of a hurry. After an emerge --sync, and the blocking packages, I got in a hurry, did not think and ran: emerge --unmerge sys-libs/ss sys-libs/com_err sys-fs/e2fsprogs sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs So now I cannot emerge anything to fix this. Here I tried (re) emerge wget: Downloading 'ftp://rm.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/gnuftp/gnu/wget/wget-1.11.1.tar.bz2' wget: error while loading shared libraries: libcom_err.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Can I just copy some file over from another amd64 machine? If so, which ones exactly? emerge sys-fs/e2fsprogs If wget still fails while doing this, download the archive for this package manually and put it into your distfiles directory. Afterwards, wget should work again. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Hi, I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using? I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware. same here. Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem. Mine works here and here is the info: [ebuild R ] sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12 USE=-build -doc -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 0 kB Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems you did not get the point. To attribute a floating point number to an integer variable is perfectly valid, depending on the specific program. The compiler normally does not even warn about this, as this is perfectly valid (from my testing, the compiler only warns if you are using gcc 4.3, and specify -Wconversion, an option that is not included in -Wall and not even in -Wextra). Yes, you are right. I was doing what some people would like to call speaking out of my ass :) C++ compiled with gcc does give you a warning with -Wall. I just assumed that C did the same, its been some time since I coded pure C. Regards Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm coming into this thread kinda late, so feel free to ignore... ... but Jorge is right. This is easily picked up by a lint tool... and good python programmers use them ;-). Some python-aware editors even have this functionality built in. Using the above example: $ pylint who_no.py ... C: 1: Missing docstring C: 5: Comma not followed by a space for i in range(1,1): ^^ E: 8: Undefined variable 'malformed' E: 8: Undefined variable 'beast' Thanks, that sounds like a utility i may use in the future. I don't like having to use a separate tool to make sure I didn't perhaps make a typo while typing some variables name, but I find python useful enough to oversee that. Regards Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
On Friday 31 October 2008 04:53:20 Iain Buchanan wrote: Markos Chandras wrote: From my experience i would recommend to use alsa-in-kernel + alsa-libs + FYI that's alsa-lib not alsa-libs :) might confuse someone reading later. True. Sorry for the mistake :) alsa-headers + alsa-utils + alsa-tools This combination works perfect on my 3 gentoo machines -- Markos Chandras
[gentoo-user] OT: Python (was: package.keywords syntax?)
Hi Albert, on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 03:11:04PM -0400, you wrote: ... but Jorge is right. This is easily picked up by a lint tool... and good python programmers use them ;-). Some python-aware editors even have this functionality built in. Whow...I've been out of Python long enough to totally forget that you *needed* to do this. In Perl, the use strict you find at the top of every well-written script does it at compile time. cheers, Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpW5p5UNElJT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent documentation in /usr/share/doc from being bzip2'ed ?
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:38:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 07:39:10PM -0400, Eric Martin wrote: Why not go even easier and use bzcat,bzless,zcat,and zless Because bzgrep and many others haven't been written. Shhh, don't tell my computer that! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 0]% which bzgrep /usr/bin/bzgrep [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 0]% qfile bzgrep app-arch/bzip2 (/usr/bin/bzgrep) -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the media exposed his sexual depravity. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
2008/10/31 Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joshua Murphy wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Markos Chandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my experience i would recommend to use alsa-in-kernel + alsa-libs + alsa-headers + alsa-utils + alsa-tools This combination works perfect on my 3 gentoo machines All... *thinks a moment* 6 of mine as well. void shameless_plug() { One of the reasons I love Gentoo is because it allowed me to recompile all apps without ALSA support and use OSS (version 4) instead which for me worked much, much better than ALSA. } ;D ok, all of you said alsa in-kernel + alsa-lib + alsa-header is working perfectly. Yes, it's working for me too on my other gentoo box. But i read this after building alsa-lib: * Please try in-kernel ALSA drivers instead of the alsa-drivers ebuild. * If alsa-drivers works for you where a recent kernel does not, we want * to know about this. Our e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] * However, if you notice no sound output or instability, please try to * upgrade your kernel to a newer version first. and this makes me think i should get rid of those packages as it say instead. Is this wrong? do we still need alsa-lib and co.?
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Python (was: package.keywords syntax?)
Am Friday 31 October 2008 10:54:23 schrieb Matthias Bethke: Hi Albert, on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 03:11:04PM -0400, you wrote: ... but Jorge is right. This is easily picked up by a lint tool... and good python programmers use them ;-). Some python-aware editors even have this functionality built in. Whow...I've been out of Python long enough to totally forget that you *needed* to do this. In Perl, the use strict you find at the top of every well-written script does it at compile time. sarcasm Yeah, let's continue to bash Python, which is such a badly broken language nobody wants to use it productively, because other languages offer so much better functionality to test for programmer error at compile time. Perl is a brilliant example to mention in this context. /sarcasm Seriously: dynamic typing is a blessing, (only!) when combined with strict typing (where Perl doesn't [really] have the latter, even when use strict is in effect). Having to declare variables before use mostly is irrelevant (I'm not talking about _defining_ variables before use), because it's no common source of bugs. At least that's my 5 cents. -- Heiko Wundram hackerkey://v4sw7CHJLSUY$hw5ln5pr7FOP$ck2ma9u7FL$w3DVWXm0l7GL$i65e6t3EMRSXb7ADORen5a26s5MSr2p-6.62/-6.56g5AORZ
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
But i read this after building alsa-lib: * Please try in-kernel ALSA drivers instead of the alsa-drivers ebuild. * If alsa-drivers works for you where a recent kernel does not, we want * to know about this. Our e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] * However, if you notice no sound output or instability, please try to * upgrade your kernel to a newer version first. and this makes me think i should get rid of those packages as it say instead. Is this wrong? do we still need alsa-lib and co.? You should _not_ install alsa-drivers if you want to use in-kernel drivers. You can and should install alsa-lib etc. Patrick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
Joshua Murphy wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Markos Chandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my experience i would recommend to use alsa-in-kernel + alsa-libs + alsa-headers + alsa-utils + alsa-tools This combination works perfect on my 3 gentoo machines All... *thinks a moment* 6 of mine as well. void shameless_plug() { One of the reasons I love Gentoo is because it allowed me to recompile all apps without ALSA support and use OSS (version 4) instead which for me worked much, much better than ALSA. } ;D
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:05:47 +0100, Pupino wrote: But i read this after building alsa-lib: * Please try in-kernel ALSA drivers instead of the alsa-drivers ebuild. * If alsa-drivers works for you where a recent kernel does not, we want * to know about this. Our e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] * However, if you notice no sound output or instability, please try to * upgrade your kernel to a newer version first. and this makes me think i should get rid of those packages as it say instead. Is this wrong? do we still need alsa-lib and co.? It says instead of the alsa-drivers ebuild. you use either the in-kernel drivers or alsa-drivers, whichever you choose, you still need alsa-lib. -- Neil Bothwick Captain, I sense millions of minds focused on my cleavage. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] How to know when a package is due to go stable?
There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in development versions. What I'd like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. If not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way. James
[gentoo-user] Updating a system....catch-22...
I have a system that I'm just bringing back online after a few months down due to hardware issues and lack of resources to get new hardware. Some things are going okay - I got it past the e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs-lib update fiasco (after hosing it and using GRML to get it back up). However, I'm now stuck. emerge world -vuDN won't complete because a package can't use java-config, complaining about python-updater needing to be run. However, python-updater won't run because the of blocks due to software being outdated and masked. So it's a catch-22. I need to install a new java-config and other software before I can get python-updater to run, but the emerge won't go through without running python-updater for at least one package. Any ideas on how to resolve? TIA, Ben
RE: [gentoo-user] Updating a system....catch-22...
-Original Message- From: BRM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 31, 2008 9:10 AM To: Users Gentoo Subject: [gentoo-user] Updating a systemcatch-22... I have a system that I'm just bringing back online after a few months down due to hardware issues and lack of resources to get new hardware. Some things are going okay - I got it past the e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs-lib update fiasco (after hosing it and using GRML to get it back up). However, I'm now stuck. emerge world -vuDN won't complete because a package can't use java-config, complaining about python-updater needing to be run. However, python-updater won't run because the of blocks due to software being outdated and masked. So it's a catch-22. I need to install a new java-config and other software before I can get python-updater to run, but the emerge won't go through without running python-updater for at least one package. Any ideas on how to resolve? TIA, Ben Try running python-updater for one package at a time and see what happens? Once it gets past one or two it might not complain at you as much.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to know when a package is due to go stable?
James Homuth schrieb: There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in development versions. What I'd like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. If not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way. James Quite easy, emerge --sync emerge -up world system, then you know whats gone stable with higher versions. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: void shameless_plug() { One of the reasons I love Gentoo is because it allowed me to recompile all apps without ALSA support and use OSS (version 4) instead which for me worked much, much better than ALSA. } g++ plug.cpp -o plug plug.cpp: In function 'void shameless_plug()': plug.cpp:4: error: 'One' was not declared in this scope plug.cpp:4: error: expected `;' before 'of' make: *** [plug] Error 1 how about some printf's (or cout's for you noobs) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The pollution's at that awkward stage. Too thick to navigate and too thin to cultivate. -- Doug Sneyd
Re: [gentoo-user] How to know when a package is due to go stable?
James Homuth wrote: There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in development versions. in development according to whom? What I'd like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. So long as you have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 (or any arch, but not ~arch) then it's gentoo stable. Generally this means no (or insignificant) bugs for about 30 days, and no unstable / masked deps. Note this has nothing to do with upstream stable, which is defined by upstream. Given the keywords above, if you can install it, it's considered stable! If not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way. worthwhile for getting juicy info like --keep-going but otherwise not really necessary. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Alea iacta est. [The die is cast] -- Gaius Julius Caesar
[gentoo-user] did anyone just get 400+ emails from this list?
Hi, yes, I did... or at least I think. I'm using thunderbird (shredder) 3.0a2 (yes, aware of the risks, see the release name). all the emails are from before 10/09/2008 (that's september for you US folks). Funny thing is, the emails were deleted long ago, so I don't know how shredder would have falsely received them. weird. maybe its a trick (or treat?) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au A soft answer turneth away wrath; but grievous words stir up anger. -- Proverbs 15:1 Quite funny quote actually, made me think of A soft jube turneth away egging of thy front porch, but 'get lost' stirs up anger on Halloween!
[gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
Iain Buchanan wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: void shameless_plug() { One of the reasons I love Gentoo is because it allowed me to recompile all apps without ALSA support and use OSS (version 4) instead which for me worked much, much better than ALSA. } g++ plug.cpp -o plug plug.cpp: In function 'void shameless_plug()': plug.cpp:4: error: 'One' was not declared in this scope plug.cpp:4: error: expected `;' before 'of' make: *** [plug] Error 1 how about some printf's (or cout's for you noobs) As if printf's aren't for noobs. The Real Programmer puts the string length in EDX, the string in ECX, puts 1 in ECX to signify stdout, 4 in EAX to select the sys_write system call, and does an int 0x80.
[gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?
Justin wrote: James Homuth schrieb: There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in development versions. What I'd like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. If not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way. James Quite easy, emerge --sync emerge -up world system, then you know whats gone stable with higher versions. Or, to also cover packages not in world/system, you can do: emerge -p1u `qlist -IC` (Don't omit the 1 from the options or you'll mess up your world file with packages that are purely dependencies.) I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default, actually. Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made. If the package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update.
[gentoo-user] Error booting new kernel
I have a quastion related to vanilla-sources kernel. After upgrading vanilla-sources from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28_rc2 I am not able to boot anymore. I tried playing with menuconfig couple of times, but couldn't find what I have to change in order to make it work again. The error message while booting is like this: Using IPI shortcut mode BIOS EDD facility v 0.16 2004-Jul-25 1 devices found VFS: Cannot open root device 307 on unknown-block(3,7) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(3,7) Note that in my lilo.conf I have root=/dev/hda7 line for all kernels. Thanks for any suggestion, Marko
Re: [gentoo-user] Error booting new kernel
Marko Kocić wrote: I have a quastion related to vanilla-sources kernel. After upgrading vanilla-sources from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28_rc2 I am not able to boot anymore. I tried playing with menuconfig couple of times, but couldn't find what I have to change in order to make it work again. The error message while booting is like this: Using IPI shortcut mode BIOS EDD facility v 0.16 2004-Jul-25 1 devices found VFS: Cannot open root device 307 on unknown-block(3,7) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(3,7) Note that in my lilo.conf I have root=/dev/hda7 line for all kernels. Thanks for any suggestion, Marko The 2 main things to look for are File System support chipset. did you copy your old .config and run a make oldconfig ? Shouldn't have been much to modify, if any. deface
[gentoo-user] Re: Error booting new kernel
Marko Kocić wrote: I have a quastion related to vanilla-sources kernel. After upgrading vanilla-sources from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28_rc2 I am not able to boot anymore. I tried playing with menuconfig couple of times, but couldn't find what I have to change in order to make it work again. The error message while booting is like this: Using IPI shortcut mode BIOS EDD facility v 0.16 2004-Jul-25 1 devices found VFS: Cannot open root device 307 on unknown-block(3,7) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(3,7) Note that in my lilo.conf I have root=/dev/hda7 line for all kernels. My guess is that you would need to specify /dev/sda7 instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:37:58 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default, actually. Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made. If the package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update. If it's not is world, or a dependency of a world package, it's not needed and --depclean will catch it. -- Neil Bothwick IBM - I Blame Microsoft signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Error booting new kernel
On Fri, October 31, 2008 10:41 am, Marko KociÄ wrote: I have a quastion related to vanilla-sources kernel. After upgrading vanilla-sources from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28_rc2 I am not able to boot anymore. I tried playing with menuconfig couple of times, but couldn't find what I have to change in order to make it work again. The error message while booting is like this: Using IPI shortcut mode BIOS EDD facility v 0.16 2004-Jul-25 1 devices found VFS: Cannot open root device 307 on unknown-block(3,7) Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(3,7) Note that in my lilo.conf I have root=/dev/hda7 line for all kernels. Thanks for any suggestion, Marko That filesystem support is not compiled in the kernel?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alsa in-kernel vs. alsa-lib
2008/10/31 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:05:47 +0100, Pupino wrote: But i read this after building alsa-lib: * Please try in-kernel ALSA drivers instead of the alsa-drivers ebuild. * If alsa-drivers works for you where a recent kernel does not, we want * to know about this. Our e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] * However, if you notice no sound output or instability, please try to * upgrade your kernel to a newer version first. and this makes me think i should get rid of those packages as it say instead. Is this wrong? do we still need alsa-lib and co.? It says instead of the alsa-drivers ebuild. you use either the in-kernel drivers or alsa-drivers, whichever you choose, you still need alsa-lib. -- Neil Bothwick Captain, I sense millions of minds focused on my cleavage. good, this clarifies everything. Thank you all!
Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative
On Wednesday 29 October 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008, 13:06, Stroller wrote: Ok, that's OT, but it's not that difficult. They just moved the ftp functionality from Internet explorer to Windows explorer [snip] No, they just REMOVED any extended functionality from IE. Windows Explorer has ALWAYS done FTP natively (or at least since 2000). Ah ok, sorry for the inaccuracy, and thanks for the correction. Have you considered the use of webdav, or webdavs? I believe it works fine with either MSIE and/or MSWE. Of course it works a treat with Konqueror. The only challenge would be to make sure that the users can type in the correct address: webdav://my_site.com -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:37:58 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default, actually. Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made. If the package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update. If it's not is world, or a dependency of a world package, it's not needed and --depclean will catch it. No, it will not :P Don't ask me why, because I don't know. I only know from experience that --depclean does not catch some packages that get updated with emerge -1u `qlist -IC` (and don't get updated with emerge -uD world system).
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikos Chantziaras Sent: October 31, 2008 10:38 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable? Justin wrote: James Homuth schrieb: There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in development versions. What I'd like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. If not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way. James Quite easy, emerge --sync emerge -up world system, then you know whats gone stable with higher versions. Or, to also cover packages not in world/system, you can do: emerge -p1u `qlist -IC` (Don't omit the 1 from the options or you'll mess up your world file with packages that are purely dependencies.) I wonder why emerge doesn't do something like this by default, actually. Say a package has a serious exploit and an update was made. If the package isn't in world, emerge will never grab the update. That'll teach me to just read the Gentoo documentation. I figured emerge --update --deep world covered system, too.
Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:23:23AM +, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Have you considered the use of webdav, or webdavs? I believe it works fine with either MSIE and/or MSWE. Of course it works a treat with Konqueror. The only challenge would be to make sure that the users can type in the correct address: webdav://my_site.com This sounds like a good idea. Can I set up different levels of access in different subfolders? pgp60vpFAkpeC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?
James Homuth wrote: That'll teach me to just read the Gentoo documentation. I figured emerge --update --deep world covered system, too. As far as what I was told on -dev, it still does. If you use the @system or @world, then that is a different thing. I'm assuming what I was told still holds true. Dale :-) :-) P.S. Yea, I'm back. I had a reaction to some meds and they dang near killed me. Spent about a week in the hospital wondering what that light was. o_O
Re: [gentoo-user] How to know when a package is due to go stable?
James Homuth schrieb: There are several packages that were thrown around on the list, or versions of packages, that I've come across that I figure I might want to take an active interest in. However, to avoid sending my boxes into a tailspin, I'm staying away from installing the still in development versions. What I'd like to know though is if there's some means of knowing if/when, as an example, a newer version of Portage is supposed to be considered stable. If not then I can always keep an eye on the relevant RSS feeds, but it was mostly just curiosity on my part. Thanks either way. James eix -uc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Screwed up swap while trying to get hibernate working; help
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran hibernate once unsuccessfully. I forgot to put resume= into my lilo.conf (oops). I finally did that, but now, hiberate gets to... hibernate: Running /usr/sbin/s2disk ... s2disk: Could not use the resume device (try swapon -a). Reason: No such device ...and backs out gracefully. According to fdisk -l, swap is there... [d530][root][~] fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xd000 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 60801 4883840015 Extended /dev/sda5 1 62 497952 83 Linux /dev/sda6 63 549 3911796 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda7 550 60801 483974158+ 83 Linux ...but according to swapon, it's not... [d530][root][~] swapon -a swapon: /dev/sda6: Invalid argument What did I did? And how do I straighten it out? Umm... if you're hibernating to the same swap partition you're using when the system's live... I'm pretty sure you can't do that... even if everything does manage to fit, having sort out what belongs back in ram and what doesn't ... it's not a very sane thing to expect the kernel+userspace tools there to do. If I recall from last time I considered setting it up on my system, software hibernate needs an otherwise unused swap partition that's just a little bigger than the amount of physical ram in your system. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge boo_boo
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:07 AM, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've done it now, being in too big of a hurry. After an emerge --sync, and the blocking packages, I got in a hurry, did not think and ran: emerge --unmerge sys-libs/ss sys-libs/com_err sys-fs/e2fsprogs sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs So now I cannot emerge anything to fix this. Here I tried (re) emerge wget: Downloading 'ftp://rm.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/gnuftp/gnu/wget/wget-1.11.1.tar.bz2' wget: error while loading shared libraries: libcom_err.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Can I just copy some file over from another amd64 machine? If so, which ones exactly? If not, any other ideas to fix this? James Hmm, here's a random thought... if you've not already gotten things working again... Gentoo installs Busybox... try FETCHCOMMAND=/bin/busybox wget \${URI} -P \${DISTDIR} emerge wget and see if that overcomes your troubles. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge boo_boo
On Friday 31 October 2008 19:53:28 Joshua Murphy wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:07 AM, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've done it now, being in too big of a hurry. After an emerge --sync, and the blocking packages, I got in a hurry, did not think and ran: emerge --unmerge sys-libs/ss sys-libs/com_err sys-fs/e2fsprogs sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs So now I cannot emerge anything to fix this. Here I tried (re) emerge wget: Downloading 'ftp://rm.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/gnuftp/gnu/wget/wget-1.11.1.tar.bz2' wget: error while loading shared libraries: libcom_err.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Can I just copy some file over from another amd64 machine? If so, which ones exactly? If not, any other ideas to fix this? James Hmm, here's a random thought... if you've not already gotten things working again... Gentoo installs Busybox... try FETCHCOMMAND=/bin/busybox wget \${URI} -P \${DISTDIR} emerge wget and see if that overcomes your troubles. emerge e2fsprogs again after unemerging the older version. If wget doesnt work put the .tar.gz of sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2 on your /usr/portage/distfiles and emerge it :) -- Markos Chandras
[gentoo-user] xf86-video-intel-2.5.0 emerge error
Hi everybody ! Is someone having a problem with xf86-driver-intel-2.5.0 compilation like this? ... In file included from /usr/include/xorg/vdif.h:24, from /usr/include/xorg/edid.h:15, from bios_reader.c:45: /usr/include/X11/Xmd.h:152: error: conflicting types for 'CARD32' bios_reader.c:43: error: previous declaration of 'CARD32' was here * * ERROR: x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.5.0 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 2946: Called x-modular_src_compile * environment, line 3732: Called x-modular_src_make * environment, line 3768: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die emake failed * The die message: * emake failed My box has xorg-server 1.3.0 ; VIDEO_CARDS=intel (in make.conf) ; xf86-video-intel ~x86 (in package.keyword). xf86-video-intel current version is 2.4.2-r3 Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-video-intel-2.5.0 emerge error
On Friday 31 October 2008 21:56:56 Fernando Antunes wrote: Hi everybody ! Is someone having a problem with xf86-driver-intel-2.5.0 compilation like this? ... In file included from /usr/include/xorg/vdif.h:24, from /usr/include/xorg/edid.h:15, from bios_reader.c:45: /usr/include/X11/Xmd.h:152: error: conflicting types for 'CARD32' bios_reader.c:43: error: previous declaration of 'CARD32' was here * * ERROR: x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.5.0 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 2946: Called x-modular_src_compile * environment, line 3732: Called x-modular_src_make * environment, line 3768: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die emake failed * The die message: * emake failed My box has xorg-server 1.3.0 ; VIDEO_CARDS=intel (in make.conf) ; xf86-video-intel ~x86 (in package.keyword). xf86-video-intel current version is 2.4.2-r3 Thanks You could try upgrade xorg-server too . If this doesnt fix your problem, i would suggest filling a bug on gentoo bugzilla :) -- Markos Chandras
Re: [gentoo-user] did anyone just get 400+ emails from this list?
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, yes, I did... or at least I think. I'm using thunderbird (shredder) 3.0a2 (yes, aware of the risks, see the release name). all the emails are from before 10/09/2008 (that's september for you US folks). Funny thing is, the emails were deleted long ago, so I don't know how shredder would have falsely received them. weird. maybe its a trick (or treat?) I did not get anything out of the ordinary. Now where is the candy? :) Paul
[gentoo-user] FIXED: unmerge boo_boo
Markos Chandras markos.chandras at gmail.com writes: Here I tried (re) emerge wget: emerge e2fsprogs again after unemerging the older version. If wget doesnt work put the .tar.gz of sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2 on your /usr/portage/distfiles and emerge it :) Many things failed. I could not use scp, or copy form a usbstick nor a cd. Only downloading via a web browser worked for me. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2406package_id=2374 I had to download both: e2fsprogs-1.41.2.tar.gz and e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2.tar.gz and put them in /usr/portage/distfiles/ All is under way. Also the thread helped: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907 Thanks to all that helped. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Screwed up swap while trying to get hibernate working; help
mkswap /dev/sda6 swapon /dev/sda6 Thanks, that worked. Having been bitten before by doing the obvious, I was wondering if something else was required. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to know when a package is due to go stable?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:11:20 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: If it's not is world, or a dependency of a world package, it's not needed and --depclean will catch it. No, it will not :P Don't ask me why, because I don't know. I only know from experience that --depclean does not catch some packages that get updated with emerge -1u `qlist -IC` (and don't get updated with emerge -uD world system). Possibly build time dependencies, which aren't updated unless you use --with-bdeps y. -- Neil Bothwick There's too much blood in my caffeine system. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Burn-in test
I just bought a new laptop: http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProductcmd=pdpid=019626cid=896.645 Which packages should I emerge (and run) as a burn-in test? Note: I will run the burn-in off either a stock or custom-mastered Gentoo LiveDVD. If the disc needs custm mastering, please outline the steps required. Thanks! -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
[gentoo-user] Why do these packages depend on corefonts?
Why the hell do these packages depend on corefonts?: app-emulation/wine-1.1.6 net-www/netscape-flash-10_rc20080915 x11-misc/slim-1.3.1 It somehow makes sense with wine, maybe even - remotely - with flash. But why, why should *slim* need Windows fonts to work? -- hackerkey://v4sw5RUYhw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7Lw3+2Xm0l6/7Gi2e2t3b6AKMen5+7a16s0Sr1p-5.62/-6.56g6OR
Re: [gentoo-user] Burn-in test
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought a new laptop: http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProductcmd=pdpid=019626cid=896.645 Which packages should I emerge (and run) as a burn-in test? Note: I will run the burn-in off either a stock or custom-mastered Gentoo LiveDVD. If the disc needs custm mastering, please outline the steps required. Thanks! Out of an old habit of abusing windows boxes with prime95 at work... emerge gimps mprime -t -w/tmp/ I didn't use a gentoo-emerged copy when I tested my new desktop last week... I just threw a copy from ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/ onto a usb key and packed that and my gentoo amd64 livecd with me to put all the parts together. That copy, at least, ran the torture test on both cores by default. A little over 24hrs was enough to satisfy me... I test systems that *have* to be dependable for a few days to a week. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Burn-in test
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of an old habit of abusing windows boxes with prime95 at work... emerge gimps mprime -t -w/tmp/ Err... that *should* have been... emerge gimps /opt/gimps/mprime -t -w/tmp/ -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Why do these packages depend on corefonts?
Erik Hahn wrote: Why the hell do these packages depend on corefonts?: app-emulation/wine-1.1.6 net-www/netscape-flash-10_rc20080915 x11-misc/slim-1.3.1 It somehow makes sense with wine, maybe even - remotely - with flash. But why, why should *slim* need Windows fonts to work? According to the slim webpage, it only needs freetype (along with libjpeg, libpng, and X11). It appears to be explained in the bug about it though: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215661 the default theme uses verdana which is provided by corefonts -Steve
Re: [gentoo-user] Why do these packages depend on corefonts?
Why the hell do these packages depend on corefonts?: app-emulation/wine-1.1.6 net-www/netscape-flash-10_rc20080915 x11-misc/slim-1.3.1 It somehow makes sense with wine, maybe even - remotely - with flash. But why, why should *slim* need Windows fonts to work? Not only that, but why don't they also accept media-fonts/liberation-fonts? In my case it is media-gfx/imagemagick-6.4.0.6 that forces me to have media-fonts/corefonts, as I don't have installed any of the 3 packages you mentioned -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] Screwed up swap while trying to get hibernate working; help
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 01:51:58PM -0400, Joshua Murphy wrote Umm... if you're hibernating to the same swap partition you're using when the system's live... I'm pretty sure you can't do that... even if everything does manage to fit, having sort out what belongs back in ram and what doesn't ... it's not a very sane thing to expect the kernel+userspace tools there to do. If I recall from last time I considered setting it up on my system, software hibernate needs an otherwise unused swap partition that's just a little bigger than the amount of physical ram in your system. Which begs the next question... howsabout if I turn swap off as part of the hibernation process? I.e. in /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf include the lines... OnSuspend 00 swapoff /dev/sda6 OnResume 00 swapon /dev/sda6 or for that matter, what's the worst that can happen if I turn off swap alltogether, and run out of memory? Is it catastrophic, or merely inconvenient (additional programs refuse to launch)? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] Burn-in test
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of an old habit of abusing windows boxes with prime95 at work... emerge gimps mprime -t -w/tmp/ Err... that *should* have been... emerge gimps /opt/gimps/mprime -t -w/tmp/ -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy How good is Crysis for the purposes of burn-in? -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
[gentoo-user] Input in Vmware console is delay
Hi folks, I have installed gentoo in Vmware, currently the problem is when I input some command it will delay 1 second shows on console screen. I have checked the system, there are no abnormal process, system load is OK. When try to use Windows Putty to connect gentoo box, no delay, erverything seems nice. Many thanks for any hint.
Re: [gentoo-user] Input in Vmware console is delay
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Astomi Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I have installed gentoo in Vmware, currently the problem is when I input some command it will delay 1 second shows on console screen. I have checked the system, there are no abnormal process, system load is OK. When try to use Windows Putty to connect gentoo box, no delay, erverything seems nice. All I can tell you is that something's fishy with regards to your vga driver. -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Re: [gentoo-user] Input in Vmware console is delay
Astomi Chen wrote: Hi folks, I have installed gentoo in Vmware, currently the problem is when I input some command it will delay 1 second shows on console screen. I have checked the system, there are no abnormal process, system load is OK. When try to use Windows Putty to connect gentoo box, no delay, erverything seems nice. Many thanks for any hint. Have you installed the vmware tools package for once inside the vm? you will get much better performance. deface
Re: [gentoo-user] Input in Vmware console is delay
I agree with you. Now my console still in 800*600 mode, I have tried lots of ways, but failed. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/http://dev.gentoo.org/%7Espock/projects/uvesafb/ On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Astomi Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I have installed gentoo in Vmware, currently the problem is when I input some command it will delay 1 second shows on console screen. I have checked the system, there are no abnormal process, system load is OK. When try to use Windows Putty to connect gentoo box, no delay, erverything seems nice. All I can tell you is that something's fishy with regards to your vga driver. -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Re: [gentoo-user] Input in Vmware console is delay
Not yet, I will give a try. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:03 PM, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Astomi Chen wrote: Hi folks, I have installed gentoo in Vmware, currently the problem is when I input some command it will delay 1 second shows on console screen. I have checked the system, there are no abnormal process, system load is OK. When try to use Windows Putty to connect gentoo box, no delay, erverything seems nice. Many thanks for any hint. Have you installed the vmware tools package for once inside the vm? you will get much better performance. deface
Re: [gentoo-user] Screwed up swap while trying to get hibernate working; help
Joshua Murphy wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Walter Dnes[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran hibernate once unsuccessfully. I forgot to put resume= into my lilo.conf (oops). I finally did that, but now, hiberate gets to... [snip] What did I did? And how do I straighten it out? Umm... if you're hibernating to the same swap partition you're using when the system's live... I'm pretty sure you can't do that... :) Actually it can! This is the whole point of using a swap partition for hibernating! In fact, this is the only configuration I used (one swap partition to suspend to) for years, until I got a laptop with 4G ram I thought a large swap partition was a bit redundant. Now I hibernate to a file. tuxonice can hibernate to 1 or more swap partitions. even if everything does manage to fit, having sort out what belongs back in ram and what doesn't ... it's not a very sane thing to expect the kernel+userspace tools there to do. If I recall from last time I considered setting it up on my system, software hibernate needs an otherwise unused swap partition that's just a little bigger than the amount of physical ram in your system. actually it can also free up some ram, and your image is compressed using lzf which can achieve a claimed 30 - 50% but generally you should have enough free swap to cover the size of used RAM. If you have too little swap, tuxonice will abort gracefully cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au He don't know me vewy well, DO he? -- Bugs Bunny
Re: [gentoo-user] Input in Vmware console is delay
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Astomi Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not yet, I will give a try. If this is a Gentoo VM emerge open-vm-tools...my Gentoo VMs work very well with it :). You might need to do echo app-emulation/open-vm-tools /etc/portage/package.keywords first. Also within the VM, you probably will want to set this in your make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=vmware Then emerge x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware Then use the vmware driver in xorg.conf Let me know if you'd like me to give you more detailed info on all of this :). On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:03 PM, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Astomi Chen wrote: Hi folks, I have installed gentoo in Vmware, currently the problem is when I input some command it will delay 1 second shows on console screen. I have checked the system, there are no abnormal process, system load is OK. When try to use Windows Putty to connect gentoo box, no delay, erverything seems nice. Many thanks for any hint. Have you installed the vmware tools package for once inside the vm? you will get much better performance. deface