Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:42, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: ... strol...@hex ~ $ sudo mount -v -L boot /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw,noatime) strol...@hex ~ $ ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. Good question! I thought for a moment that the above demonstrated that I had done so, but of course it is necessary to boot from a LiveCD instead: r...@sysresccd /root % mount -v -L root /mnt/gentoo mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda6 I will try type ext4 /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo type ext4 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % Stroller. Since ext4 is new and I have no experience with it yet, you may want to take this lightly. I think cfdisk, or fdisk, would show if the label was set or not. It to my knowledge can't change the label but it does show it if it is set. It should do that even if booted from the drive as well, just don't change anything. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:56, Stroller wrote: ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. Good question! I thought for a moment that the above demonstrated that I had done so, but of course it is necessary to boot from a LiveCD instead: r...@sysresccd /root % mount -v -L root /mnt/gentoo mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda6 I will try type ext4 /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo type ext4 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % I should have said: Thank you for the suggestion, though. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 07:56, Stroller wrote: ... You may have done this but just in case, you did use the tools to set the label on the drive right? tune2fs does it for ext2 and ext3. I'm not sure about ext4. Good question! I thought for a moment that the above demonstrated that I had done so, but of course it is necessary to boot from a LiveCD instead: r...@sysresccd /root % mount -v -L root /mnt/gentoo mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda6 I will try type ext4 /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo type ext4 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % I should have said: Thank you for the suggestion, though. Stroller. Your welcome. Here is some more info. cfdisk (util-linux-ng 2.14.1) Disk Drive: /dev/hdb Size: 80026361856 bytes, 80.0 GB Heads: 255 Sectors per Track: 63 Cylinders: 9729 Name Flags Part Type FS Type [Label]Size (MB) -- hdb1 PrimaryLinux ext3[backup]80023.75 That partition is labeled backup on there. It is a drive I am not using so I could umount it to set the label. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I can find no obvious reason why, I have tried to recompile cryptsetup using different arch, but still the same. It is build statically, USE=-dynamic is set and ldd just says no dynamic executable. But when trying to debug I copied the cryptsetup, that is not working in the init, to a usb-device and tried to decrypt my disk using a livecd, and this went fine. So to summarize: init - cryptsetup segfaults in livecd env - cryptsetup ok in gentoo system - cryptsetup ok the other programs in the init seems to run as they should; busybox and lvm. Any ideas on how to continue debugging or is there someone with the answer? - -- For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmP67wACgkQ82oqndqg+400+gCgzLWM4mTtKWKUT3mTiE2mFHAz pWAAn3PR5SNCg3s9HHNGCSMjFjB13PIz =3nqB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On 9 Feb 2009, at 08:02, Dale wrote: ... r...@sysresccd /root % mount -v -L root /mnt/gentoo mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda6 I will try type ext4 /dev/sda6 on /mnt/gentoo type ext4 (rw) r...@sysresccd /root % Since ext4 is new and I have no experience with it yet, you may want to take this lightly. I think cfdisk, or fdisk, would show if the label was set or not. It to my knowledge can't change the label but it does show it if it is set. It should do that even if booted from the drive as well, just don't change anything. ;-) Hi Dale, Thanks for your help. I thought the above DID demonstrate that the partition is labelled correctly - does the -L flag not say mount the partition with the following label? Anyway, I checked with cfdisk, and because the output is formatted a bit too pretty for email I found another way to check the partition's / filesystem's label: $ sudo e2label /dev/sda1 boot $ sudo e2label /dev/sda6 root $ This matches the label I was using in grub.conf: $ grep LABEL= /boot/grub/grub.conf #kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.28-gentoo-r1 root=LABEL=root $ Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:38 +, Stroller wrote: I can find numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. http://mulix.livejournal.com/84768.html -- Neil Bothwick Can you be a closet claustrophobic? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On 9 Feb 2009, at 09:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:38 +, Stroller wrote: I can find numerous references to this syntax going back to 2005 or so, and some major distros seem to use it as the default way of describing root= to the kernel. It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. http://mulix.livejournal.com/84768.html Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. I bow to your vastly superior Google-Fu. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?
On Sunday 08 Feb 2009, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, I recently upgraded from 2.6.26 to 2.6.28. My el-cheapo webcam (lsusb: 0c45:602c Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam) used the media-video/gspcav1 driver, but that no longer compiles: /var/tmp/portage/media-video/gspcav1-20071224/work/gspcav1-20071224/gspca_c ore.c:54:27: error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory /var/tmp/portage/media-video/gspcav1-20071224/work/gspcav1-20071224/gspca_c ore.c: In function 'spca5xx_ioctl': /var/tmp/portage/media-video/gspcav1-20071224/work/gspcav1-20071224/gspca_c ore.c:2463: error: implicit declaration of function 'video_usercopy' etc. I discovered a number of gspca modules in the kernel: gspca_spca508 gspca_spca506 gspca_spca505 gspca_spca500 gspca_spca501 gspca_spca561 but I can't find out which one suits my webcam. usb id is above, and it's a freebie from a pc store, so it's branded with their logo and comes with no technical notes. I've tried loading each gspca_spca5xx module one by one, but none of them creates a video device (that I can tell). I just backed out gspcav1 and compiled all the kernel drivers as modules and just plugged the webcam in; the kernel works out which ones to use. # lsmod | grep spca gspca 621584 0 gspca_zc3xx48320 0 gspca_main 22656 1 gspca_zc3xx compat_ioctl32 8256 2 gspca,gspca_main videodev 34112 3 gspca,gspca_main,compat_ioctl32 However, you are not out of the woods yet! You will probably need the libv4l libraries installed to get spcaview to work. Skype and kopete still completely fail to find the camera. :( There is a long thread on the Gentoo fora about this. -- -- Robin Atwood
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:28:42 +, Stroller wrote: I bow to your vastly superior Google-Fu. Not really, I just hit the same problem as you a while ago, and came up with the same solution. -- Neil Bothwick Adolescence, n.: The stage between puberty and adultery. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Time keeper app for KDE 4.2
On Sonntag 08 Februar 2009, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all I know that there is an option in GNOME which allows the computer keyboard, mouse and screen to freeze for a certain time for example 3 minutes for each hour. I wonder if there is something similar in KDE? FREEZE? sounds stupid, but: ktimetracker kalarm for managing time eyesaver which tells you to do a break once in a while.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
2009/2/9 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 01:37:00 +, Stroller wrote: ok thank you for your response...will do as suggested... The suggestion was not to top-post... He was replying to one of my messages, and I did not suggest that. No, although the response was will do as suggested not will do as you suggested. I was actually slightly narked at having to futz around with the previous message - which did not make any sense the first time I read it, so no doubt it made no sense at all to a less-capable English speaker - copying pasting 6 times, just so that Nikos could make a clever point. Yes, a clear explanation of why the list prefers text to appear in chronological order would have been better, and I was somewhat complicit in continuing the obtuse complaints. Danis, please do not top-post. Instead, place your comments so they follow what your are replying to. That way the mail can be read in its natural order, which makes it much easier to understand. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 5: Twelve-ounce pound cake indeed i did not understand the first suggestion about top-posting and did not know about this rule...it is the first time i'm taking part in a list so i will try to behave with the rules of it and not make any difficulties so i can get the most out of your help when i am in trouble...thanks again for pointing that out which i did not understand until the last 2 posts i've read... Danis
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. If you, like me, prefere to compile your own kernel, there's still an easy way to create a initrd for your kernel: with genkernel I use this command to compile my pre-configured kernel genkernel --no-clean --no-mrproper \ --makeopts=-j2 --loglevel=5 --install --symlink all To include support for disk labels use the switch --disklabel
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard disk power save
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:25:07 +0200, Danis Petkakis wrote: indeed i did not understand the first suggestion about top-posting and did not know about this rule...it is the first time i'm taking part in a list so i will try to behave with the rules of it and not make any difficulties so i can get the most out of your help when i am in trouble...thanks again for pointing that out which i did not understand until the last 2 posts i've read... That's OK. There is no FAQ or other guidelines for this list sent to new subscribers, so the first you know about this preference is when someone asks you to respect it. Personally, I find top-posting ugly, counter-intuitive and inefficient, butt hen I'm an old fart with too many years of starting at the top of the page and reading to the bottom behind him :( -- Neil Bothwick Why do programmers get Halloween and Christmas confused? Because oct 31 is the same as dec 25. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
* Johan Blåbäck (johan.bluecr...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 09:40]: hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. the other programs in the init seems to run as they should; busybox and lvm. Any ideas on how to continue debugging or is there someone with the answer? Forgot to compile the Crypto Algorithms in the kernel instead of as modules? Since lvm runs, the lvm is obviously no module. HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpQVaXRv4jOc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?
I just backed out gspcav1 and compiled all the kernel drivers as modules and just plugged the webcam in; the kernel works out which ones to use. # lsmod | grep spca gspca 621584 0 gspca_zc3xx48320 0 gspca_main 22656 1 gspca_zc3xx compat_ioctl32 8256 2 gspca,gspca_main videodev 34112 3 gspca,gspca_main,compat_ioctl32 However, you are not out of the woods yet! You will probably need the libv4l libraries installed to get spcaview to work. Skype and kopete still completely fail to find the camera. :( There is a long thread on the Gentoo fora about this. -- -- Robin Atwood where can i get the ibv4l libraries, in the portage? can u give me some key words ,thx. -- Regards Linyin SooChow China http://linyin.8800.org
Re: [gentoo-user] media-video/gspcav1 or kernel module?
media-libs/libv4l Il giorno lun, 09/02/2009 alle 19.53 +0800, Linyin ha scritto: I just backed out gspcav1 and compiled all the kernel drivers as modules and just plugged the webcam in; the kernel works out which ones to use. # lsmod | grep spca gspca 621584 0 gspca_zc3xx48320 0 gspca_main 22656 1 gspca_zc3xx compat_ioctl32 8256 2 gspca,gspca_main videodev 34112 3 gspca,gspca_main,compat_ioctl32 However, you are not out of the woods yet! You will probably need the libv4l libraries installed to get spcaview to work. Skype and kopete still completely fail to find the camera. :( There is a long thread on the Gentoo fora about this. -- -- Robin Atwood where can i get the ibv4l libraries, in the portage? can u give me some key words ,thx. signature.asc Description: Questa è una parte del messaggio firmata digitalmente
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment on this. It's a bad idea if the machine is open to the Internet, especially since it's easy to simply su - or sudo as a normal user.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment on this. It's a bad idea if the machine is open to the Internet, especially since it's easy to simply su - or sudo as a normal user. Sorry, but I consider that to be BS advice (at least concerning that you want to leave password-authentication open). I'd always recommend disabling root login for ssh (as soon as that is possible, i.e. you have an unpriviledged account who is in group wheel who you can use to access the machine in question), because root is a well-known user (and thus lends itself well to a [possibly distributed] ssh brute force). When someone wants to hack your machine, he's always going to try known usernames before going on to guess what additional (unpriviledged) usernames might have been set up on your system. And, even when he gets access to one of your user accounts (who happen to be in group wheel), he still has to guess the root password (when doing su -) to be able to become root, and hopefully this buys you the time to see in your logs that someone tried local su with invalid passwords, which should always be a high priority alert. YMMV, but I've felt pretty safe (safer than leaving root open for password- authentication) like this so far. -- Heiko Wundram Gehrkens.IT GmbH FON 0511-59027953 | http://www.gehrkens.it FAX 0511-59027957 | http://www.xencon.net Gehrkens.IT GmbH Strasse der Nationen 5 30539 Hannover Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hannover, HRB 200551 Geschäftsführer: Harald Gehrkens, Daniel Netzer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Heiko Wundram wrote: Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment on this. It's a bad idea if the machine is open to the Internet, especially since it's easy to simply su - or sudo as a normal user. Sorry, but I consider that to be BS advice (at least concerning that you want to leave password-authentication open). I'd always recommend disabling root login for ssh (as soon as that is possible, i.e. you have an unpriviledged account who is in group wheel who you can use to access the machine in question), because root is a well-known user (and thus lends itself well to a [possibly distributed] ssh brute force). Er, didn't I actually say the same? If other people have network access to the machine, disable root. You misunderstood something.
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} xfce4 network management?
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 02:58:13PM -0800, Grant wrote: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf editing while traveling. Does There's also wpa_gui. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail But you can use wicd for most anything from unencryped, to WEP, to WPA and WPA2. Wicd is just plain easy. Just what I was looking for, thanks everyone. - Grant Is it possbible with wicd to manage pppoe connections when a certain wireless network is conntected? And what about gprs connections over my bluetooth phone? (actually I use ppp over rfcomm in my /etc/conf.d/net) === TopperH === pgpakSYQvMpUg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Heiko Wundram wrote: Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment on this. It's a bad idea if the machine is open to the Internet, especially since it's easy to simply su - or sudo as a normal user. Sorry, but I consider that to be BS advice (at least concerning that you want to leave password-authentication open). I'd always recommend disabling root login for ssh (as soon as that is possible, i.e. you have an unpriviledged account who is in group wheel who you can use to access the machine in question), because root is a well-known user (and thus lends itself well to a [possibly distributed] ssh brute force). Er, didn't I actually say the same? If other people have network access to the machine, disable root. You misunderstood something. I'd just as soon leave the root account able to be logged in over SSH and remove password authentication in preference of a 2048-bit RSA key. Just use a script to add failed logins to a deny list.
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Saphirus Sage wrote: I'd just as soon leave the root account able to be logged in over SSH and remove password authentication in preference of a 2048-bit RSA key. Just use a script to add failed logins to a deny list. I tend to forget that this isn't Debian, so yeah, that'll work ;D
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:39:24 +0100
Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have
done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these
kind of errors.
You'll get segfault if you're trying to do something like luksOpen on a
non-existing device.
At least that was the reason for me, once, when I've tried to
luksOpen /dev/sda2 instead of /dev/sda3, or something like that.
Had it figured out by putting strace to initrd and running strace
cryptsetup luksOpen ... instead of just cryptsetup - gave me something
like open('/dev/sdaX', ...) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address), so
I had to double-check and found the mistake to be that trivial.
--
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net
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[gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew Hi, You could use grdesktop that has all that features. Kind regards, DN
[gentoo-user] Re: Using portage through NFS
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:57:58 -0600, Chris Lieb wrote: I don't want to do UnionFS since that requires me to patch the kernel, which is more work than I have the time for. cd /usr/src/linux patch -p1 /path/to/patchfile You must be *really* short of time ;-) My concern is more about making my own ebuild (based off of gentoo-sources) that will patch the kernel source for me so that I can easily distribute this patched kernel source to all of my computers. I need the process to be easy so that whom ever succeeds me doesn't have to learn much more than just running a couple of scripts that I wrote. Even how, I catch enough crap from my boss already for spending so much time tinkering with servers instead of programming :) A quick look at the gentoo-sources ebuild makes it look like the patching must be happening in an eclass somewhere, but I'm no bash or ebuild/eclass guru. My skills end at fixing dependencies in packages and doing simple ebuild copy version bumps. Is there a guide out there for rolling my own kernel ebuild? Chris PS. Sorry if this is a double post. The ml seems to silently reject my posts that I do through gmane.
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On 9 Feb 2009, at 10:32, Michael Hampicke wrote: It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. If you, like me, prefere to compile your own kernel, there's still an easy way to create a initrd for your kernel: with genkernel I use this command to compile my pre-configured kernel genkernel --no-clean --no-mrproper \ --makeopts=-j2 --loglevel=5 --install --symlink all To include support for disk labels use the switch --disklabel I am resistant to the idea of using an initrd, because IIRC it's an extra file that has to be stored in /boot, creating extra clutter in there. I'm kinda thinking that using the label prevents failed boots in the event that the drives are recognised in a different order in the future, but nevertheless I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. I appreciate this is somewhat irrational. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew Hi, You could use grdesktop that has all that features. Thank you for your reply. However grdesktop appears to be only for connecting to Windows Remote Desktop and NOT VNC. Am I missing something? I need to connect to VNC servers. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com
Re: [gentoo-user] mit kerberos running on Gentoo Linux
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 02:45:41 schrieb zhangwe...@realss.com: zhangwe...@esmeralda:~$ krsh emerson.realss.com usage: rlogin [ -8EL] [-e char] [ -l username ] host Should I complain to Gentoo packager or MIT or have problem of my own? Any chance krsh is an alias in your shell? The output you see comes from /usr/bin/rlogin. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew Hi, You could use grdesktop that has all that features. Thank you for your reply. However grdesktop appears to be only for connecting to Windows Remote Desktop and NOT VNC. Am I missing something? I need to connect to VNC servers. Thanks, Drew There's kvnc in KDE land. Don't remember if it has all those features, but I *think* it did. I has been ages since I used VNC.
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and "remember" connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between "low" and "high" bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew Hi, You could use grdesktop that has all that features. Thank you for your reply. However grdesktop appears to be only for connecting to Windows Remote Desktop and NOT VNC. Am I missing something? I need to connect to VNC servers. Thanks, Drew Sorry my bad! I was busy around here and thought that it was rdesktop =) For vnc i usually use vncviewer only, good luck with your quest.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
On 9 Feb 2009, at 13:05, Heiko Wundram wrote: ... even when he gets access to one of your user accounts (who happen to be in group wheel), he still has to guess the root password (when doing su -) to be able to become root, and hopefully this buys you the time to see in your logs that someone tried local su with invalid passwords, which should always be a high priority alert. I have been using `sudo` over `su` for a long time because I felt it reduces the risk of staying too long logged in as root, doing something daft and damaging the system. However I have now many times found myself typing `sudo` commands automatically sometimes inattentively, so that would seem to undermine that argument. Your point is very persuasive. I guess my remaining objection is that I have my .bashrc .bash_profile just the way I like them, and using root would seem to require me to make any changes in two places. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2 Konsole Title
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Chris Lieb wrote: I recently switched to KDE 4.2 (completely removed KDE 3.5.9 and emerge @kde-4.2) and fired up my system update script. I noticed right away that the title bar of Konsole did not update to show my progress in my emerge -u... world. In fact, it only showed the user name and directory that I was currently in. No script seemed to change the contents of the title bar. I noticed the same behavior in lxvt run in KDE 4.2 also. In Konsole under KDE 3.5.9, the title bar would always be controlled by the script that was running. Is this supposed to happen in KDE 4.2, or is this a bug? In the profile of Konsole you're using, in the Tabs tab, edit the Tab title format according to your needs. To get KDE 3 behavior, you need %d : %w. I did that and it worked. However, I noticed that there tends to be a delay between when the title should change and when it actually does. In KDE 3.5, as soon as emerge moved to the next package, it would change the window title almost instantly. In KDE 4.2, there is a lag of a couple seconds. Is there something I need to configure to get this to happen more quickly, or is it an upstream bug? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJJkGMnAAoJEJWxx7fgsD+CFugIAMO3bqMvCocX4QAsgxd9TdgY vbKawsQi1TgkXE4BxLoQLhlnAvqDso1yCLKN5aV5hsMpDvejkYlQ6/eq85ZUBpzU Vr6IHziokc09hZLZ55Sd0j3jYxjeK6nlCpDkrDwAcL+0OT4ECkUnO6w7fR3ybfq+ DVCsW988A+h/qqVnQNe53wttqZ7/LtGVqC2FSiS7HLKX/fBdkcT+AZPo3ExHurev eOJ5udtSi2YuLX/pYPC4ol+A2UwiBKbNL6W79QrRhljtREYRcWD6FD+l1hRD3LuU cCbNuef4SZmV011KfiqRHhTch7i/jA5CJLKJYUhhyyBxzeapifiE1+kzPOMI3FM= =EmIn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
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Mike Kazantsev wrote:
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Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have
done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these
kind of errors.
You'll get segfault if you're trying to do something like luksOpen on a
non-existing device.
At least that was the reason for me, once, when I've tried to
luksOpen /dev/sda2 instead of /dev/sda3, or something like that.
Had it figured out by putting strace to initrd and running strace
cryptsetup luksOpen ... instead of just cryptsetup - gave me something
like open('/dev/sdaX', ...) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address), so
I had to double-check and found the mistake to be that trivial.
This was actually one of the first things I checked. Just forgot to
mention it. I solved it by adding a 'ls -l /dev' in the init, and there
I found out that /dev/sda1 was named /dev/hda1. But I still got the problem.
Forgot to compile the Crypto Algorithms in the kernel instead of as
modules? Since lvm runs, the lvm is obviously no module.
HTH
Sebastian
I'm quite sure that I have compiled in all of the algorithms I'm using.
But I will add some more just to be sure. Recompiling my kernel as I write.
Thanks to both of you.
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[gentoo-user] Linux traffic shaper setup advice
Hi Gentoo community, I have several computers at home and one Gentoo-powered router. I want to setup a very simple traffic shaper that will give each computer almost equal(the best choice - with some weight coefficient on each ip address) speed, without counting number of connections and etc. So, someone using torrent won't load whole pipe. One most important problem with it that I have fixed speed to the world and fixed speed to local resourses in my city, so I can't fix my up/down link speed to one fixed number, I actually have 2 speeds, depending on the IP address I'm accessing to. Any suggestions? -- best regards, Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On Monday 09 February 2009 18:51:24 Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 10:32, Michael Hampicke wrote: It would appear that you need an initrd/initramfs to use this. Ah! Many thanks. I will live without this shortcut, then, I think. If you, like me, prefere to compile your own kernel, there's still an easy way to create a initrd for your kernel: with genkernel I use this command to compile my pre-configured kernel genkernel --no-clean --no-mrproper \ --makeopts=-j2 --loglevel=5 --install --symlink all To include support for disk labels use the switch --disklabel I am resistant to the idea of using an initrd, because IIRC it's an extra file that has to be stored in /boot, creating extra clutter in there. I'm kinda thinking that using the label prevents failed boots in the event that the drives are recognised in a different order in the future, but nevertheless I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. I appreciate this is somewhat irrational. Not really. initrds are there for two cases, and only two cases: 1) a generic boot process for precompiled binary distros where the maintainers has no idea what the user has and must support all combinations for all possible users. 2) Boot scenarios where you require access to the root device before you have access to the root device (/ on lvm, boot off some raid setups, etc) The first does not apply to gentoo at all. If you don't have the second, initrd is just extra unnecessary clutter and complexity and you are quite correct to resist it's presence. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:56:36AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew Hi, You could use grdesktop that has all that features. Thank you for your reply. However grdesktop appears to be only for connecting to Windows Remote Desktop and NOT VNC. Am I missing something? I need to connect to VNC servers. Thanks, Drew There's kvnc in KDE land. Don't remember if it has all those features, but I *think* it did. I has been ages since I used VNC. I know it's a bit off topic, but I would suggest to take a look at freenx. It works great even on very slow connections (in my case GPRS), and has a great set of features. It allows on-the-go screen resizig, full-screen, ecc. === TopperH === pgpd4Rh5HxE8q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Did you check the version numbers for the two TightVNC clients? You might need to switch to a ~arch version of Tight on Gentoo if the stable version is too old. If you're running Gnome, you could also take a look at Vinagre as a client. It does connection bookmarking, multiple connections on tabs, etc. Aaron
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 17:51:24 schrieb Stroller: I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. Errh, which longer lines in grub.conf? Here's mine, as an example: title=Gentoo Linux kernel /vmlinux.gz realroot=/dev/evms/root vga=0x31B notsc Quite short and simple, isn't it? You don't even recognize that it uses an initramfs (because it's embedded in the kernel itself). Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: David Negreira wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Thanks, Drew Hi, You could use grdesktop that has all that features. Thank you for your reply. However grdesktop appears to be only for connecting to Windows Remote Desktop and NOT VNC. Am I missing something? I need to connect to VNC servers. Thanks, Drew You can adjust your bandwidth in vncviewer using option -compresslevel and -quality. Hung
[gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
Quandry: (2) ALSA drivers exist. No matter what kernel choices I make I either get 2 different ALSA devices, or none. The mobo has an Nvidia chip, the video card has a ATI video chip, both only work under the Intel HDA driver. These are compiled into the kernel, not loadable modules. I'm going bald googling trying to find out what to do, or how to fix? from dmesg: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAZA] enabled at IRQ 23 HDA Intel :00:05.0: PCI INT B - Link[LAZA] - GSI 23 (level, low) - IRQ 23 HDA Intel :00:05.0: setting latency timer to 64 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNEA] enabled at IRQ 19 HDA Intel :02:00.1: PCI INT B - Link[LNEA] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19 HDA Intel :02:00.1: setting latency timer to 64 ALSA device list: #0: HDA NVidia at 0xdfef8000 irq 23 #1: HDA ATI HDMI at 0xdffec000 irq 19 lspci -v shoes: 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8290 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device aa38 No sound. Kmix has a red X over it on my kde panel. There are no choices there in Kmix to select on. HOW do I set this up? udev, hal, or evdev configs? Ideas? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Sendmail and Comcast
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm including this on the list since I think there will be others who may find it useful. Someone is bound to need it sooner or later, but it was not strictly speaking gentoo-user M/L material so I posted it as off topic. cat /etc/mail/authinfo # [HP 02/04/06 23:14 NOTE make sure to makemap hash authinfo authinfo] This was my first mistake - in rushing through I did not update the db every time I made a change. AuthInfo:smtp.comcast.net U:MYUSER Aha! This was my second mistake - I used smmsp as the user. I thought that this was the process runnind sendmail on my mailserver. I:myu...@comcast.net P:MYPASSWD M: LOGIN PLAIN # end authinfo Heed the comment about makemap or authinfo won't work. Thank you very much for your help! :) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johan Blåbäck wrote: hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I can find no obvious reason why, I have tried to recompile cryptsetup using different arch, but still the same. It is build statically, USE=-dynamic is set and ldd just says no dynamic executable. But when trying to debug I copied the cryptsetup, that is not working in the init, to a usb-device and tried to decrypt my disk using a livecd, and this went fine. So to summarize: init - cryptsetup segfaults in livecd env - cryptsetup ok in gentoo system - cryptsetup ok the other programs in the init seems to run as they should; busybox and lvm. Any ideas on how to continue debugging or is there someone with the answer? hi again, Still got a segfault :-/ The things I have tried more is to recompile cryptsetup and used that for init, but no change. Compiled in all crypto algorithms, no change. I'm not that good with all the options in the kernel. If anyone know of which kernel options that could affect cryptsetup in this way? Any ideas anyone? (thx for the help sofar) - -- For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmQcsQACgkQ82oqndqg+41kEACeLswROSAIfg4ZCY1kqurrTvQi pQsAnj5zixPj0Qbf+jzq5rRDSyPdEnNg =J7gU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2 Konsole Title
Chris Lieb wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Chris Lieb wrote: [...] In Konsole under KDE 3.5.9, the title bar would always be controlled by the script that was running. Is this supposed to happen in KDE 4.2, or is this a bug? In the profile of Konsole you're using, in the Tabs tab, edit the Tab title format according to your needs. To get KDE 3 behavior, you need %d : %w. I did that and it worked. However, I noticed that there tends to be a delay between when the title should change and when it actually does. In KDE 3.5, as soon as emerge moved to the next package, it would change the window title almost instantly. In KDE 4.2, there is a lag of a couple seconds. Is there something I need to configure to get this to happen more quickly, or is it an upstream bug? Can't find anything in the settings. Might not even be a bug but just how it works. You can always try filing a bug about it on bugs.kde.org though, either as a wish or a real bug.
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Stroller wrote: On 9 Feb 2009, at 13:05, Heiko Wundram wrote: ... even when he gets access to one of your user accounts (who happen to be in group wheel), he still has to guess the root password (when doing su -) to be able to become root, and hopefully this buys you the time to see in your logs that someone tried local su with invalid passwords, which should always be a high priority alert. I have been using `sudo` over `su` for a long time because I felt it reduces the risk of staying too long logged in as root, doing something daft and damaging the system. However I have now many times found myself typing `sudo` commands automatically sometimes inattentively, so that would seem to undermine that argument. Your point is very persuasive. I guess my remaining objection is that I have my .bashrc .bash_profile just the way I like them, and using root would seem to require me to make any changes in two places. You can instruct sudo to ask for the target user's password instead of your own. In this case, you can make to ask for root's password. Look up targetpw in sudo's docs. To make sudo ask for the target user's password by default, put this in /etc/sudoers: Defaults targetpw
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
On Monday 09 February 2009 19:13:32 James wrote: [...] The mobo has an Nvidia chip, the video card has a ATI video chip, both only work under the Intel HDA driver. These are compiled into the kernel, not loadable modules. I'm going bald googling trying to find out what to do, or how to fix? [...] No sound. Kmix has a red X over it on my kde panel. There are no choices there in Kmix to select on. HOW do I set this up? udev, hal, or evdev configs? In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. /Regards Naga
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johan Blåbäck wrote: Johan Blåbäck wrote: hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I can find no obvious reason why, I have tried to recompile cryptsetup using different arch, but still the same. It is build statically, USE=-dynamic is set and ldd just says no dynamic executable. But when trying to debug I copied the cryptsetup, that is not working in the init, to a usb-device and tried to decrypt my disk using a livecd, and this went fine. So to summarize: init - cryptsetup segfaults in livecd env - cryptsetup ok in gentoo system - cryptsetup ok the other programs in the init seems to run as they should; busybox and lvm. Any ideas on how to continue debugging or is there someone with the answer? hi again, Still got a segfault :-/ The things I have tried more is to recompile cryptsetup and used that for init, but no change. Compiled in all crypto algorithms, no change. I'm not that good with all the options in the kernel. If anyone know of which kernel options that could affect cryptsetup in this way? Any ideas anyone? (thx for the help sofar) I had noticed this problem w/ my laptop where some usbdevices dont show up until a few seconds later than when the init is running. So I added a 'sleep 10' to the init, and what I got was - - 10 s sleep - - during these I get a messege: sda: sda1 sda2 (this is the bootable usb-key) - - cryptsetup segfaults - - ls -l /dev/sd* gives 'ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory' - - ls -l DEv/hd* gives '/dev/hda1' How is this possible? Shouldn't it show sda, sda1 and sda2 together with hda and hda1? Why are these missing? - -- For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmQetwACgkQ82oqndqg+41aSwCgl7CAh0MXlWEogo2dnA9BSkr1 sTAAnR9Ppheav4nbGxBonWB6nzs80KEg =Szmp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem
Naga nagatoro at gmail.com writes: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Makes sense, but, it's does not work for *26 or *27 kernels: Linux sliver 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #12 SMP Mon Feb 9 13:04:18 EST 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux It's a new install, and it has never worked. It works find under XP. James
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Under KDE, there's krdc. Supports VNC and you can bookmark connections. I'll second freenx, assuming you have control of the server so can install it. HTH, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem
James wrote: Naga nagatoro at gmail.com writes: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Makes sense, but, it's does not work for *26 or *27 kernels: Linux sliver 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #12 SMP Mon Feb 9 13:04:18 EST 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux It's a new install, and it has never worked. It works find under XP. Start with: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt On my new install using 2.6.28-gentoo-r1, alsa kernel, sound as modules (recommended), snd_intel_hda, ~x86, I have both analog and SPDI/F working, but the kernel is not recognizing HDMI device. In a nut shell, * enable alsa in the kernel * enable as modules device drivers/sound card support/... * do not install alsa-drivers. * emerge alsa-utils * follow the alsa-guide * if digital device not recognized, specify option name from ALSA-Configuration.txt HTH, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Drive Install
James wrote: If you come up with more/better tips, post back to the thread. goodluck, James I did come across this site, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ and tried out the Gentoo install using Windows. Amazingly easy. On bootup it is asking for a login and password, I do not know what the default is for the live CD, so I just left login and password as blank. Logs in without problem. Did CTL/ALT/F1 to get to a prompt and set a root password, and then back into the GUI using CTL/ALT/F7 to get back in and all seems OK. Took a quick look at the make.conf and it shows the standard message that I am working using the Live CD and not to make changes there. Not much else yet tried. Have Fun, Sean
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Aaron Clark wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Did you check the version numbers for the two TightVNC clients? You might need to switch to a ~arch version of Tight on Gentoo if the stable version is too old. If you're running Gnome, you could also take a look at Vinagre as a client. It does connection bookmarking, multiple connections on tabs, etc. Thanks to all for the suggestions. My TightVNC on Linux is version 1.3.9 and is from net-misc/tightvnc-1.3.9-r2. As I am using Gnome, I've installed Vinagre and it appears to be what I need. I just wish there was some way to scroll in fullscreen mode. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On 9 Feb 2009, at 18:03, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 17:51:24 schrieb Stroller: I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. Errh, which longer lines in grub.conf? Here's mine, as an example: title=Gentoo Linux kernel /vmlinux.gz realroot=/dev/evms/root vga=0x31B notsc Quite short and simple, isn't it? You don't even recognize that it uses an initramfs (because it's embedded in the kernel itself). Am I not correct in thinking that initramfs used to be / can be / was originally a separate file which goes in /boot and is described with an extra boot parameter? I wasn't aware that you could embed the initramfs into the kernel itself - after reading Neil's message yesterday I looked up more about the initramfs, contemplated about the idea of doing so and decided naw, you'll never be able to do that, it would make the kernel too big and take up too much memory. I certainly can recognise that you're doing something bogus, because your kernel parameters use realroot= and not just root= Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem
Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt Yep got these. They do seem to be dated, in light of the recent kernel changes related to audio? On my new install using 2.6.28-gentoo-r1, alsa kernel, sound as modules (recommended), snd_intel_hda, ~x86, I have both analog and SPDI/F working, but the kernel is not recognizing HDMI device. Well, for now, I went back to this kernel version: 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 Only one audio chip (nvidia) shows up, and I got it working now I'll try a 2.8 kernel when the gentoo sources go stable. * enable alsa in the kernel * enable as modules device drivers/sound card support/... * do not install alsa-drivers. * emerge alsa-utils * follow the alsa-guide * if digital device not recognized, specify option name from ALSA-Configuration.txt I appreciate these steps and refs I'm good for now. James
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} xfce4 network management?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:54 +0100, Momesso Andrea wrote: Is it possbible with wicd to manage pppoe connections when a certain wireless network is conntected? And what about gprs connections over my bluetooth phone? (actually I use ppp over rfcomm in my /etc/conf.d/net) Not yet, it currently only supports wired and wireless ethernet. PPP connections are not supported, but not ruled out for the future. -- Neil Bothwick My friends went to alt.california, and all they brought me was this lousy sig. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Generic kernel: hardware and loading the right modules
I've asked this on IRC and the forums, but I'm not getting any further. Maybe I'm asking the wrong question or misunderstanding the few replies I get, but allow me to pose my question on the mailing list as well. Over the last few years, I have been compiling kernels for well-defined sets of hardware, i.e. the systems I myself was working on. The items and devices I knew I had and needed were compiled in-kernel, some optional things as modules (that is, the more functional modules like file systems or support for Ethernet bridging, not the hardware modules). I knew about udev, and primarily thought of it as the program that could enforce persistent naming, heck, it could even rename network interfaces from the standard eth0 to something more meaningful. How cool! I recently found myself in a new and unexplored situation: I needed a generic kernel/module combination (precompiled) that would work on a variety of hardware in the x86 architecture, and especially a way to load the right modules. I always assumed there would be some kind of magic at work, but I guess there isn't. First idea: genkernel. Never used it before, but it seemed to work ok. The initrd generated by genkernel works with busybox's mdev. The net effect seems to be that every driver module (I noted IDE and SATA chipsets I never even heard of) in the initrd is loaded, relevant or not, and stays loaded. Ok, that'll probably work, but why bother creating modules, if I still use them all. And sure, I could unload most of them, but I don't want to bother my users with that. And it seems kind of inefficient, I mean, I wouldn't expect a 2009 Linux system to work like that. Second idea: manual initramfs creation. Very insightful and a recommended exercise. Problem: I have no idea how to handle the loading of modules the way I want. Questions: Should I use udev instead of mdev in the initrd? Would that make a difference? Why doesn't genkernel use udev too then? Does udev do any module loading or does it just act upon device file creation (meaning the relevant module is already loaded)? Somebody on IRC coined the term hotplug, but the hotplug ebuilds have version names beginning with 2004. The elogs of those ebuilds talk about modules loaded at boot (yay!) and something called coldplug, but coldplug is blocked by recent udev versions (aww!). So maybe udev does have the capability of loading relevant modules? Maybe I'm expecting too much, maybe I'm confusing device drivers with the genericity of what a module is, maybe I haven't read the right man pages or googled the right keywords. I would just really like someone to give me a clear explanation :-) Thanks in advance, Kobboi
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Using portage through NFS
Chris Lieb wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:57:58 -0600, Chris Lieb wrote: I don't want to do UnionFS since that requires me to patch the kernel, which is more work than I have the time for. cd /usr/src/linux patch -p1 /path/to/patchfile You must be *really* short of time ;-) My concern is more about making my own ebuild (based off of gentoo-sources) that will patch the kernel source for me so that I can easily distribute this patched kernel source to all of my computers. I need the process to be easy so that whom ever succeeds me doesn't have to learn much more than just running a couple of scripts that I wrote. Even how, I catch enough crap from my boss already for spending so much time tinkering with servers instead of programming :) Is there a guide out there for rolling my own kernel ebuild? Chris Take a peek at aufs on the sunrise overlay. It has a section that patches the kernel, dependent on kernel version and USE flags. It looks like it just informs the user that the kernel was patched. HTH, Roy
[gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream...
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:50:04 +0100 Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I had noticed this problem w/ my laptop where some usbdevices dont show up until a few seconds later than when the init is running. So I added a 'sleep 10' to the init, and what I got was - - 10 s sleep - - during these I get a messege: sda: sda1 sda2 (this is the bootable usb-key) - - cryptsetup segfaults - - ls -l /dev/sd* gives 'ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory' - - ls -l DEv/hd* gives '/dev/hda1' How is this possible? Shouldn't it show sda, sda1 and sda2 together with hda and hda1? Why are these missing? Why should it? Do you have full-fledged udev on initrd? I've always created them by hand with mknod or just copied from a working system - you know which ones you'll need, anyway. And I've had segfaults with usb hdd too, as I recall, but if you put cryptsetup in a 'while true' loop it'll prompt for passphrase / mount device as soon as it'll be detected. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] seamonkey helper apps
Hello, I use to listen to my voice mail, via mplayer and seamonkey. I setup mplayer to play voice-message.wav and it (use to) worked beautifully. Now I cannot get it to work. Any suggestion as to a simple app. I can set up as a helper application in seamonkey to play .wav files? The file command tells me this about the voice-message.wav file sent to me from vonage: file voice-message.wav voice-message.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, ITU G.711 mu-law, mono 8000 Hz ideas? James
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them.
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them. This video brought up an interesting question by my friend (an ubuntu user). How would one go about getting Canonical or the ubuntu community to change their practice of not contributing fixes back upstream? Without having to change distributions. --Joshua Doll
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Joshua D Doll joshua.d...@gmail.com wrote: Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them. This video brought up an interesting question by my friend (an ubuntu user). How would one go about getting Canonical or the ubuntu community to change their practice of not contributing fixes back upstream? Without having to change distributions. I was sure I'd read something about Shuttleworth saying they were going to start doing upstream fixes as it was one of their biggest critisisms, and a quick google showed me this: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/09/canonical-to-fund-upstream-linux-usability-improvements.ars I haven't actually watched the linked video yet (as at work), but I think my link is still on topic. --Joshua Doll
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
* Naga (nagat...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 19:35]: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Why can I listen to music and watch DVD with my hda-intel, if it's broken? /Regards Naga Curious Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpMRFXrmY0C8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem
After some more struggling I managed to get kde-base/systemsettings compiled: If I unmerge x11-libs/libxkbfile and then emerge systemsettings, it compiles fine (without support for the xkb settings). After that I did an emerge -DuvaN world and this pulls in libxkbfile again. But when I try to start KDE4.2 (using kdm), the screen blanks out a few times while kde is loading (the spash screen being displayed) and then I briefly see a malformed desktop (the bottom of the taskbar wraps around to the top of the screen) and then just a black screen. In /var/log/messages, something about plasma crashing is reported, can't remember and I'm not at the PC now, but nothing very informative. I feel like going back to my good old days of windowmaker. Regards Dirk
