Re: [gentoo-user] Icons on the xfce4 Desktop

2009-09-21 Thread Leon Feng
2009/9/20 dhk dhk...@optonline.net:
 I recently started using the xfce4 desktop with Gentoo and something
 happened where the icons disappeared.  When I go to the Desktop folder I
 can still see them there, the problem is I can get them to display again
 or they are displayed but off the screen.  Any ideas?

Try to emerge xfce4 with thunar USE.
I added it into /etc/make.conf and rebuild world with the new USE.
Icons show up again.

 Thanks,
 dhk





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?

2009-09-21 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes:

 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com [09-09-21 04:25]:
 Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com writes:
 
  On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 17:34,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  When using the line:
 
     @ 5 fetchmail -a
 
  nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded
  with
 
     fetchmail -a
 
  from the commandline.
 
  May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing
  wrong here?
 
  Are you sure the cron job runs? Check the logs. Or try adding:
  */5 * * * * fetchmail -a
  in your cron file.
 
 Another way to go at it might be to use fetchmails' built in daemon
 mode (fetchmail -d INTERVAL).  And forget about cron.
 
 

 fcron does run (see my previous mail).
 I will try the daemon mode. What will be the best place to fire up
 fetchmail then?
 ...but I am still curious what prevents the call by fcron, since this
 is also recommended by some howtos...

Have you tried to write a shell script calling fetchmail and call that from 
fcron?

@ 5 /wherever/your/script/is.sh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)

2009-09-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:41:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Turns out none of the backup or Myth files were savable in any
 practical manner of speaking. Myth could play them, or at least start
 playing them - I don't know if it could get to the end of any of them,
 but if I tried to copy them off to another drive the machine just
 started hanging with lots of dmesg drive errors. None of the previous
 windows backups were savable. I've taken new windows backups starting
 last night.

Did you try photorec as previously suggested? When a drive starts
behaving like this, retrieving the data should be the first thing you
try. Repairing the filesystem should be the last because you run the risk
of causing further damage. Photorec can retrieve files that are
inaccessible through the filesystem.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems

2009-09-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:13:37 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

 Krusader can no longer connect to a remote site via 'fish://';
 in fact Krusader 1.80.0 (with KDE 3.5.10) won't do it anymore either.

I can connect with Krusader on KDE 4.3.1 but fish:// has been broken in
KDE 3.5 for quite some time.

 I can connect to the site via 'ssh' from the CLI.
 Does anyone have suggestions ?

You can use sftp:// instead of fish, the functionality is similar and
STFP has continued working.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems

2009-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 21 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 More progress/problems with KDE 4.3.1 .
 
 Gwenview is refusing to show thumbnails of images, which showed in 3.5.10 .
 They seem to be small images: has anyone else experienced this ?

no - and could you please rephrase your question?

it does show little images, but you are missing thumbnails which are little 
images?



Re: [gentoo-user] fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?

2009-09-21 Thread Stroller


On 20 Sep 2009, at 16:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

...
When using the line:

   @ 5 fetchmail -a

nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded
with

   fetchmail -a

from the commandline.


Here my crontab says:

  0-59/4 * * * */usr/bin/fetchmail   /dev/null 21

I suggest trying the full path, but you  may also be able to redirect  
to somewhere other than /dev/null  perhaps see something useful?


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer

2009-09-21 Thread Stroller


On 20 Sep 2009, at 17:07, Harry Putnam wrote:


Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only
produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files.


Suggest playing one from the command line - mplayer gives a LOT of  
output, some of which may be useful. You might have to use _something  
like_ -vo X11 (check the manpage / docs for full vo options).


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer

2009-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 20 September 2009, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only
 produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files.
 
 Ditto in firefox.  This was working.
 
 But I'm not sure really what is playing the videos ... I do have gecko
 installed but in the firefox settings/applications it lists:
 quicktime files as being handled by `Use quicktime plugin 7.4.5
 
 All other video formats are listed as being handled by gecko.
 
 I'm not sure if firefox settings were changed by  update world.
 
 Can anyone throw some light on what might be the problem here.
 
 Does anyone know if the new version of mplayer(1.0_rc4_p20090919-r1)
 offered in portage (which is not yet available in gentoo repos)...
 might fix the problem?

 Sun Sep 13 07:52:10 2009  media-video/ffmpeg-0.5_p19787


you updated ffmpeg. Please rebuild mplayer. It should works afterwards.

And in the future: revdep-rebuilt. It is your frined.



[gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel

2009-09-21 Thread James
Hello,


What happens is when I boot up kernel-2.6.28-gentoo-r5
all the kde stuff (4.2.4) shows up.


When I boot a newer kernel, either kernel-2.6.29-gentoo-r5
or kernel-2.6.30-gentoo-r4 my kde menu bar across the bottom
of the screen is gone.  I still get a few kconsole sessions
that always start upon booting up, but all of the other kde
tools seem to be missing or hidden. All of this on a change
in the selected kernel from grub, no other changes:



If I reboot the kernel-2.6.28-gentoo-r5
it all shows up again.


I've built these newer kernel like I always do
make menuconfig
(make  make modules_install) 
so I'm not sure what I should look at to fix this.


any ideas?

James







[gentoo-user] Re: Re: runlevels and service list

2009-09-21 Thread walt
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 16:51 -0500, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 20 September 2009 22:06:44 Dale wrote:

  Neil Bothwick wrote:
  
  On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:51:17 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

  /bin/bash is also shown in htop even though bash isn't in any runlevel
  either ;)
  
  Not here.

  This is all I get for bash:
 
  r...@smoker / # ps aux | grep bash
  dale  7254  0.0  0.0   3044   572 ?SSep19   0:00
  /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher
  root  7704  0.0  0.0   1888   516 pts/0S+   15:01   0:00 grep
  --colour=auto bash
  r...@smoker / #
 
  I guess Seamonkey uses it for something.  That is also all that shows up
  in htop as well.  Nothing else bash that I can find.
  
 
  The mozilla launcher scripts spawn an instance of bash which then goes 
  looking 
  for the mozilla binaries and launches them. All perfectly normal.
 
  The reason you don't see bash in ps is because you are not running bash. I 
  do, 
  but you obviously don't. What shell does root use per /etc/passwd? 

 This one:
 
 root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
 
 Looks like bash.  ;-)  I assume this is the default because I have never
 changed this file.  Is there something screwy with my system? 

Beginning to look that way.  I tried using konsole this morning and here
is what I got:

17423 pts/3Sl 0:00 konsole
18951 pts/4Ss 0:00  \_ /bin/bash
 2704 pts/4R+ 0:00  \_ ps axf

I have no idea why you don't get the same result.





Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel

2009-09-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Montag, 21. September 2009 schrieb James:

 When I boot a newer kernel, either kernel-2.6.29-gentoo-r5
 or kernel-2.6.30-gentoo-r4 my kde [4] menu bar across the bottom
 of the screen is gone.  I still get a few kconsole sessions
 that always start upon booting up, but all of the other kde
 tools seem to be missing or hidden.

I've had a similar issue when switching logins between KDE 4 and 3 regularly - 
The menu went missing in 3 from time to time. As solution I was told to run 
kbuildsycoca. In your case (for KDE4) you need to run kbuildsycoca4.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel

2009-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 21 September 2009, James wrote:

 
 any ideas?

maybe you forgot 
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y

?

but you should really start with a diff of  the configs.



[gentoo-user] ReSOLVED: KDE menu missing with new kernel

2009-09-21 Thread James
Frank Steinmetzger Warp_7 at gmx.de writes:


 I've had a similar issue when switching logins between KDE 4 and 3 regularly 
 - 
 The menu went missing in 3 from time to time. As solution I was told to run 
 kbuildsycoca. In your case (for KDE4) you need to run kbuildsycoca4.



All I had to do was run 'kbuildsycoca4' as a normal user from the command line
with the old kernel, reboot and it was fixed.



thx,


James




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?

2009-09-21 Thread meino . cramer
Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila galiza.ce...@gmail.com [09-09-21 17:13]:
 meino.cra...@gmx.de writes:
 
  Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com [09-09-21 04:25]:
  Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com writes:
  
   On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 17:34,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  
   When using the line:
  
      @ 5 fetchmail -a
  
   nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded
   with
  
      fetchmail -a
  
   from the commandline.
  
   May be I am a little overhacked today...but what the hack I am doing
   wrong here?
  
   Are you sure the cron job runs? Check the logs. Or try adding:
   */5 * * * * fetchmail -a
   in your cron file.
  
  Another way to go at it might be to use fetchmails' built in daemon
  mode (fetchmail -d INTERVAL).  And forget about cron.
  
  
 
  fcron does run (see my previous mail).
  I will try the daemon mode. What will be the best place to fire up
  fetchmail then?
  ...but I am still curious what prevents the call by fcron, since this
  is also recommended by some howtos...
 
 Have you tried to write a shell script calling fetchmail and call that from 
 fcron?
 
 @ 5 /wherever/your/script/is.sh
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No I havent, since I see no difference to calling a real executable
-- but I will give it try.
By the way: Calling fetchmal -d from ~/.openbox/autostart.sh also does
not work, but other programs started from there do have no problems.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?

2009-09-21 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 17:43,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 By the way: Calling fetchmal -d from ~/.openbox/autostart.sh also does
 not work, but other programs started from there do have no problems.

Try running fetchmail -d -v --logfile ~/fetchmail.log in your
autostart or cron and see if fetchmail gets started and if it gives
any kind of error.

Ward



Re: [gentoo-user] fcron fetchmail procmail and the why not?

2009-09-21 Thread meino . cramer
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk [09-09-21 17:13]:
 
 On 20 Sep 2009, at 16:34, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 ...
 When using the line:
 
@ 5 fetchmail -a
 
 nothing happens: The mail remains on the server and can be downloaded
 with
 
fetchmail -a
 
 from the commandline.
 
 Here my crontab says:
 
   0-59/4 * * * *  /usr/bin/fetchmail   /dev/null 21
 
 I suggest trying the full path, but you  may also be able to redirect 
 to somewhere other than /dev/null  perhaps see something useful?
 
 Stroller.
 

Ha! :)

To not to involve stdout was the hack!

Currently I am running fetchmail via fcron and does what it should
since fetchmail directly reports to /dev/null.

I think I will change the whole suff to run in daemon mode, since I 
think (to be read as: ...not know for sure...) that it is a little
bit more performant. Or?

Thanks for the help! :)
Keep hacking!
mcc

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Portage Feature Request

2009-09-21 Thread Paige Thompson
I hope nobody finds this offensive, I'm not a great writer but I gotta get
this out there.

Goal: to resolve quality issues with packages and the behavior of portage

Problem 1:

This is a really simple thing, first of all it would help a lot if packages
will not try to build with specified cxxflags if the maintainer hasn't
tested the build and enabled them for that package.

case and point:
I have -fstack-protector-all in my cxxflags because I'm a paranoid idiot and
I'm overly confident that it could never be wrong to have that. emacs, fails
to build because of it but it's not obvious. I file a really pedantic bug
report, and later through trial and error and after having gotten over my
confidence in -fstack-protector-all realized that without it the package
*does* build. If the ebuild had a feature where it's metadata did not
indicate that it could build with that cxxflag, then portage could stop and
just tell me that up front *OR* prompt me and ask me what do next. I
understand that this would require package maintainers to actually *test*
their packages which is no trivial issue, and who wouldn't agree that if
they're not willing to then somebody else should? Not only that but it gives
you the ability to score maintainers based on the accuracy of the results.
I'm not even suggesting that this feature should be mandatory it could be
something that I could turn on or off-- I just want it so that I know what's
going on and I don't end up wasting people's time filing bug reports and
making them mad at me for being a noob.

Problem 2:
I know this is might be kind of nitpicky to you, and it's more or less the
same as problem 1 but I think if I specify -O0 in my cxxflags, that a
package that needs -O2 should not build and tell me that it needs it rather
than just building with -O2 anyway!! I mean seriously, why even give me the
option to specify the optimization level in the cxxflags. It's deceptive, I
don't like that I find it very difficult to take it seriously because of
that.

-Paige Thompson
erra...@devel.ws
saved on 9/21/09 8:41 AM by Paige Thompson


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Portage Feature Request

2009-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 21 September 2009 18:16:32 Paige Thompson wrote:
 I hope nobody finds this offensive, I'm not a great writer but I gotta get
 this out there.
 
 Goal: to resolve quality issues with packages and the behavior of portage
 
 Problem 1:
 
 This is a really simple thing, first of all it would help a lot if packages
 will not try to build with specified cxxflags if the maintainer hasn't
 tested the build and enabled them for that package.
 
 case and point:
 I have -fstack-protector-all in my cxxflags because I'm a paranoid idiot
  and I'm overly confident that it could never be wrong to have that. emacs,
  fails to build because of it but it's not obvious. I file a really
  pedantic bug report, and later through trial and error and after having
  gotten over my confidence in -fstack-protector-all realized that without
  it the package *does* build. If the ebuild had a feature where it's
  metadata did not indicate that it could build with that cxxflag, then
  portage could stop and just tell me that up front *OR* prompt me and ask
  me what do next. I understand that this would require package maintainers
  to actually *test* their packages which is no trivial issue, and who
  wouldn't agree that if they're not willing to then somebody else should?
  Not only that but it gives you the ability to score maintainers based on
  the accuracy of the results. I'm not even suggesting that this feature
  should be mandatory it could be something that I could turn on or off-- I
  just want it so that I know what's going on and I don't end up wasting
  people's time filing bug reports and making them mad at me for being a
  noob.
 
 Problem 2:
 I know this is might be kind of nitpicky to you, and it's more or less the
 same as problem 1 but I think if I specify -O0 in my cxxflags, that a
 package that needs -O2 should not build and tell me that it needs it rather
 than just building with -O2 anyway!! I mean seriously, why even give me the
 option to specify the optimization level in the cxxflags. It's deceptive, I
 don't like that I find it very difficult to take it seriously because of
 that.

This is the wrong forum for that. You need to take it up with the devs, IIRC 
they are at gentoo-dev. Few of them read this list.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Portage Feature Request

2009-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
a) wrong list

b) please read this and think about it:
http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/09/04/filtering-compiler-optimisation-flags-is-not-
a-solution

c) gentoo is about responsibility. You are responsible for the stuff you do. 
Gentoo tries not to get in your way if it can. What you ask for is completly 
against its basic philosophy:
the user knows best what he wants.



[gentoo-user] ati-drivers to radeon

2009-09-21 Thread James
Hello,


Currently, on an old laptop I have this chip:
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 
Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])   
  

using ati-drivers, all if fine with:

 xorg-server-1.5.3-r5   
 
 ati-drivers-8.593  
 
 xorg-x11-7.4   
 
 linux - linux-2.6.28-gentoo-r5/ 

I want to convert to the open-source radeon driver


I'm not finding instruction docs (except very old) so here's
what I have found to do.

edit /etc/make.conf:

VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa
(I keep vesa for a backup)

emerge -C ati-drivers

run 'qlist -I -C x11-drivers/'

and rebuild the list of supporting drivers?
reboot

???  that simple or did I miss something?


It seems like there use to be a conversion guide,
but, no luck finding that doc. Once I get the radeon
driver working, I was then going to update X. However,
since I'm keeping this system on kde 3.5.x, until
kde4 is stable (at least on this laptop), 
or should I wait on upgrading X?


comments are welcome


James







[gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?

2009-09-21 Thread walt

On 09/20/2009 07:40 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

waltw41...@gmail.com  [09-09-21 02:32]:

On 09/20/2009 09:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:


solfire:/home/mccramerl /etc/asound.state
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10122 2009-08-06 18:05 /etc/asound.state
solfire:/home/mccramersudo rm -f /etc/asound.state
solfire:/home/mccramersudo alsactl store
alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture
Volume,0': Invalid argument
solfire:/home/mccramer


I also have /etc/asound.names, which was apparently created a year ago
by alsactl names (now deprecated).  If you have that file it should
also be deleted.


If alsactl is deprecated -- what to use instead?


Sorry, only the names flag is deprecated, not alsactl.




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems

2009-09-21 Thread Philip Webb
090921 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Montag 21 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Gwenview is refusing to show thumbnails of images, which showed in 3.5.10 .
 They seem to be small images: has anyone else experienced this ?
 it does show little images,
 but you are missing thumbnails which are little images?

The thumbnails are missing for some images, for which thumbnails appear
properly in Gwenview (for) 3.5.10 .  I've found the cause:
'properties' says they are 'jpeg', but that their content is 'gif',
so changing the extension to '.gif' cures the disorder.

I'm not sure this is progress: the Unix way is to use extensions as a guide,
but process files according to their identified content;
Gwenview 4.3.1 seems to be following the M$ approach of obeying extensions.
Anyway, it's solvable with some renaming: more fun with Thunar (grin) !

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers to radeon

2009-09-21 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 19:10, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa
 (I keep vesa for a backup)

 emerge -C ati-drivers

 run 'qlist -I -C x11-drivers/'

 and rebuild the list of supporting drivers?
 reboot

 ???  that simple or did I miss something?

Yes, change your xorg.conf. Change 'Driver fglx' to 'Driver radeon'.

Ward



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?

2009-09-21 Thread meino . cramer
walt w41...@gmail.com [09-09-21 19:36]:
 On 09/20/2009 07:40 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 waltw41...@gmail.com  [09-09-21 02:32]:
 On 09/20/2009 09:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
 solfire:/home/mccramerl /etc/asound.state
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10122 2009-08-06 18:05 /etc/asound.state
 solfire:/home/mccramersudo rm -f /etc/asound.state
 solfire:/home/mccramersudo alsactl store
 alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture
 Volume,0': Invalid argument
 solfire:/home/mccramer
 
 I also have /etc/asound.names, which was apparently created a year 
 ago
 by alsactl names (now deprecated).  If you have that file it should
 also be deleted.
 
 If alsactl is deprecated -- what to use instead?
 
 Sorry, only the names flag is deprecated, not alsactl.
 
No need to feel sorry ! :)
Thanks for the explanation!

Nonetheless...after removing all the stuff I still get the
described error...

Keep hacking!
mcc




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?

2009-09-21 Thread Pupino
2009/9/21  meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 walt w41...@gmail.com [09-09-21 19:36]:
 On 09/20/2009 07:40 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 waltw41...@gmail.com  [09-09-21 02:32]:
 On 09/20/2009 09:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
 solfire:/home/mccramerl /etc/asound.state
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10122 2009-08-06 18:05 /etc/asound.state
 solfire:/home/mccramersudo rm -f /etc/asound.state
 solfire:/home/mccramersudo alsactl store
 alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture
 Volume,0': Invalid argument
 solfire:/home/mccramer
 
 I also have /etc/asound.names, which was apparently created a year
 ago
 by alsactl names (now deprecated).  If you have that file it should
 also be deleted.
 
 If alsactl is deprecated -- what to use instead?

 Sorry, only the names flag is deprecated, not alsactl.

 No need to feel sorry ! :)
 Thanks for the explanation!

 Nonetheless...after removing all the stuff I still get the
 described error...

 Keep hacking!
 mcc




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What about trying to stop every single service by hand and see if one hangs?
you can have a list of services by rc-update show (or something like
that, not really sure)
and then /etc/init.d/servicename stop for every service, leaving
the boot ones for last
HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems

2009-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 21 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 090921 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Montag 21 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
  Gwenview is refusing to show thumbnails of images, which showed in
  3.5.10 . They seem to be small images: has anyone else experienced this
  ?
 
  it does show little images,
  but you are missing thumbnails which are little images?
 
 The thumbnails are missing for some images, for which thumbnails appear
 properly in Gwenview (for) 3.5.10 .  I've found the cause:
 'properties' says they are 'jpeg', but that their content is 'gif',
 so changing the extension to '.gif' cures the disorder.
 
 I'm not sure this is progress: the Unix way is to use extensions as a
  guide, but process files according to their identified content;
 Gwenview 4.3.1 seems to be following the M$ approach of obeying extensions.
 Anyway, it's solvable with some renaming: more fun with Thunar (grin) !
 

I would file a bug report with kde. You are right, apps should look for the 
magic number, not some stupid extension.



[gentoo-user] Re: Why am I seeing only black screen in mplayer

2009-09-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 Following my most recent update world of Sept. 13, mplayer only
 produces a black screen when playing quicktime .mov files.

 It works for me on ~amd64.  I'm using mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20090825 with
 quicktime USE flag enabled.  Playing a quicktime movie shows video
 codec as ffrpza (from ffmpeg). I use vdpau for video output.

Today is the first time emerge has been able to find anything newer
than media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1

In any of the nearly a dozen repos I have set in /etc/make.conf.

Maybe now I'll see a difference.

Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes:

[...]


 you updated ffmpeg. Please rebuild mplayer. It should works afterwards.

 And in the future: revdep-rebuilt. It is your frined.

revdep-rebuild didn't help one whit in this case... as reported
earlier in this thread.




[gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down process hangs - how to proceed?

2009-09-21 Thread walt

On 09/19/2009 05:07 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

waltw41...@gmail.com  [09-09-20 02:03]:

On 09/19/2009 05:31 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:


Nonetheless I added the UNLOAD_ON_STOP=no to /etc/conf.d/alsasound
and we will see what happens.


Did you try stopping the alsa service manually?

#/etc/init.d/alsasound stop



This gave me errors, since my Webcam's audio part isn't implemented as
full audio device, but it does not hang:

solfire:/home/mccramersudo /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  * WARNING:  you are stopping a boot service.
  * Storing ALSA Mixer Levels ...
alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': 
Invalid argument


Hm.  Does alsamixer show that guilty control?

I ran strace on alsactl and it consults a very small number of files
while doing a 'store' operation, so there are very few places that
Mic Capture control could be hiding.  You might try using strace to
see what turns up. (If the error bothers you, of course.)





Re: [gentoo-user] USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)

2009-09-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
   I seem to have lost an external USB drive I've been using on my
 MythTV backend server for video storage. What commands can I try to
 get it to wake up or at least show me what's working and what isn't?
 The drive shows under fdisk /dev/sda. I can see the large partition,
 and it seems to be the right size, according to fdisk anyway, but I
 cannot mount it using mount, and so far I cannot get e2fsck to do
 anything.

I had similar errors with an external USB drive recently and it turned
out to be related to the USB port on the computer. (I suspect the USB
controller was overloaded). I plugged it into a port on a different
controller and it started working normally again. So some easy things
I would suggest trying before messing with data:

A) diferent USB port on the same computer
B) plug it into a different computer entirely
C) try a different USB cable



[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems

2009-09-21 Thread walt

On 09/21/2009 11:04 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Montag 21 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:



I'm not sure this is progress: the Unix way is to use extensions as a
  guide, but process files according to their identified content;
Gwenview 4.3.1 seems to be following the M$ approach of obeying extensions.
Anyway, it's solvable with some renaming: more fun with Thunar (grin) !



I would file a bug report with kde. You are right, apps should look for the
magic number, not some stupid extension.


Uh-oh, you guys have just triggered my favorite...
rant
I always test the latest OS from M$ just to find out what they've done
this time -- and I install it in vbox or kvm, of course.

So now it's Windows 7, the answer to the world's computing prayers.

The first thing I always check is to see if the file extensions are still
hidden by default -- and yes, they are, even today, so that HughJackman.exe
looks like HughJackman.  Imagine all the secretaries that are going to click
on that file as soon as the boss isn't looking.

At least I'm pleased that the EU is finally treating M$ with all the respect
they deserve.
/rant




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:41:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Turns out none of the backup or Myth files were savable in any
 practical manner of speaking. Myth could play them, or at least start
 playing them - I don't know if it could get to the end of any of them,
 but if I tried to copy them off to another drive the machine just
 started hanging with lots of dmesg drive errors. None of the previous
 windows backups were savable. I've taken new windows backups starting
 last night.

 Did you try photorec as previously suggested? When a drive starts
 behaving like this, retrieving the data should be the first thing you
 try. Repairing the filesystem should be the last because you run the risk
 of causing further damage. Photorec can retrieve files that are
 inaccessible through the filesystem.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

I haven't tried it yet. I don't like installing extra softwrae on the
Myth backend so I disconnected the drive, used this old 1394 drive as
a replacement and now have the old drive back here in my office. I
figure I'll install Photorec et all next weekend on my AMD64 box and
see what it can find.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
   I seem to have lost an external USB drive I've been using on my
 MythTV backend server for video storage. What commands can I try to
 get it to wake up or at least show me what's working and what isn't?
 The drive shows under fdisk /dev/sda. I can see the large partition,
 and it seems to be the right size, according to fdisk anyway, but I
 cannot mount it using mount, and so far I cannot get e2fsck to do
 anything.

 I had similar errors with an external USB drive recently and it turned
 out to be related to the USB port on the computer. (I suspect the USB
 controller was overloaded). I plugged it into a port on a different
 controller and it started working normally again. So some easy things
 I would suggest trying before messing with data:

 A) diferent USB port on the same computer
 B) plug it into a different computer entirely
 C) try a different USB cable



By definition this will be true when I move it from the PPC-based Myth
backend to the AMD64-based MythTV frontend here in the office. If it
'magically' starts working then that sort of cause may well be the
reason.

I'll report back on this but won't likely touch it before the weekend.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: ati-drivers to radeon

2009-09-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/21/2009 08:10 PM, James wrote:

Hello,

Currently, on an old laptop I have this chip:
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc
Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

using ati-drivers, all if fine with:

 xorg-server-1.5.3-r5
 ati-drivers-8.593
 xorg-x11-7.4
 linux -  linux-2.6.28-gentoo-r5/

I want to convert to the open-source radeon driver


I'm not finding instruction docs (except very old) so here's
what I have found to do.

edit /etc/make.conf:

VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa
(I keep vesa for a backup)

emerge -C ati-drivers

run 'qlist -I -C x11-drivers/'

and rebuild the list of supporting drivers?
reboot

???  that simple or did I miss something?


One more thing.  Enable DRM support in the kernel and select the Radeon 
DRM driver.  You need this or else you won't get accelerated graphics.





Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Setting up correct domainname

2009-09-21 Thread Mick
On Sunday 20 September 2009, Stroller wrote:
 On 20 Sep 2009, at 12:30, Mick wrote:
  ...
  -The following addresses had permanent fatal errors-
  email_acco...@isp.com
   (reason: 550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected :
  invalid
  sender domain)
 
  -Transcript of session follows -
 
  ... while talking to smtp.ISP.com:
  MAIL From:nag...@myserver.mydomain.com SIZE=745 AUTH=
 
   550 5.1.0 nag...@myserver.mydomain.com sender rejected :
  invalid sender
  domain
  554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
  
 
  Does this fail because the ISP's reverse DNS on my dynamically
  allocated IP
  address resolves to an ISP domain instead of myserver.mydomain.com?

 I'm not quite clear. Does the myserver.mydomain.com resolve to the
 server actually sending the mail? I think that may be what they're
 asking for.

Thanks Stroller!  That was it!  For some reason the particular subdomain had 
been taken out of the list of DynDNS and therefore it would no longer resolve 
to the server's IP address.  It goes to show ... start with the obvious 
things first.  Thank goodness I did not started hacking the sendmail 
configuration!  Ha, ha!
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

2009-09-21 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group,

Before I did -uvDN world a couple of days ago the terminal that came
with xfce4 was quite nice, configurable, with tabs. Now the terminal
app really sucks. I've looked in ~/.config/xfce4 for something to
tweak but must have missed it.

Settings-Preferred Applications-Utilities leads to a dialogue window
where a Terminal Emulator may be chosen, but the only one that works
is the default X Terminal. If you click on Select Application you are
led to /usr/bin. I tried xfterm4 but when I clicked on terminal in the
menu nothing happened.

I see under ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers there is an xterm config file
with the line:

X-XFCE-Commands=/usr/bin/xterm.

Is there something else I can point it too or do I need to emerge
something else to improve the terminal in Xfce-4.6.1?

Maxim



[gentoo-user] Slim -- log message?

2009-09-21 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

In /var/log/slim.log I found this message:

Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.

. Unfortunately I simply don't know, what it wants to say to me...

Can anybody help?

Thank you very much in advance!
Best regards,
 mcc

-- 
Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments
unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.




[gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

2009-09-21 Thread walt

On 09/21/2009 04:16 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:

Hi group,

Before I did -uvDN world a couple of days ago the terminal that came
with xfce4 was quite nice, configurable, with tabs. Now the terminal
app really sucks. I've looked in ~/.config/xfce4 for something to
tweak but must have missed it.

Settings-Preferred Applications-Utilities leads to a dialogue window
where a Terminal Emulator may be chosen, but the only one that works
is the default X Terminal. If you click on Select Application you are
led to /usr/bin. I tried xfterm4 but when I clicked on terminal in the
menu nothing happened.

I see under ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers there is an xterm config file
with the line:

X-XFCE-Commands=/usr/bin/xterm.

Is there something else I can point it too or do I need to emerge
something else to improve the terminal in Xfce-4.6.1?


I would try running 'xfterm4' from a command prompt (in the sucky xterm
window, of course ;o) and look for error messages.  That's always the
first thing I try when clicking on an icon doesn't work.




Re: [gentoo-user] Slim -- log message?

2009-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 22 September 2009 01:52:41 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In /var/log/slim.log I found this message:
 
 Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
 
 . Unfortunately I simply don't know, what it wants to say to me...
 
 Can anybody help?
 
 Thank you very much in advance!
 Best regards,
  mcc
 

I entered that exact error into Google and followed the first 5 hits.

Each hit gave the same answer from a different source.

I suggest you do the same trick with Google. It's really very useful you know.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



RE: [gentoo-user] Unpacking a .exe file

2009-09-21 Thread David Juhl
You should be able to unzip it with unzip or p7zip if it is a regular
zip file.  If it is a cabinet file then you need cabextract.

Dave
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 17:02 +1000, Adam Carter wrote:
 Did you try running the .exe with wine?
 




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : Gwenview Krusader problems

2009-09-21 Thread Philip Webb
090921 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:13:37 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
 Krusader can no longer connect to a remote site via 'fish://';
 in fact Krusader 1.80.0 (with KDE 3.5.10) won't do it anymore either.
 I can connect to the site via 'ssh' from the CLI.
 I can connect with Krusader on KDE 4.3.1
 but fish:// has been broken in KDE 3.5 for quite some time.

No problem with 3.5.10 a week ago, before I installed 4.3.1 ,
but since then neither will connect.

 You can use sftp:// instead of fish,
 the functionality is similar and STFP has continued working.

In Krusader, it fails with an error box saying 
'Unknown error, unexpected SFTP error: 8'.

From CLI it also fails with

  501: ~ sftp hostname
Connecting to hostname...
Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1
Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer

I can do what I need (uploading files) via 'ssh' + 'scp' as easily,
but it's a good thing to track down the causes of errors  report bugs.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

2009-09-21 Thread Maxim Wexler
Opens an identical xterm. In the original terminal it says

Warning: Cannot convert string nil2 to type FontStruct

before spawning the new terminal.

Search results inconclusive.  BTW if you google Warning: Cannot
convert string nil2 to type FontStruct + xfterm4 you get precisely
one hit, which I believe is known as a googlewhack.

This is the terminal I want, the one I used to have:

http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal

This is the terminal I have now:

http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal

mw

On 9/21/09, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 09/21/2009 04:16 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 Hi group,

 Before I did -uvDN world a couple of days ago the terminal that came
 with xfce4 was quite nice, configurable, with tabs. Now the terminal
 app really sucks. I've looked in ~/.config/xfce4 for something to
 tweak but must have missed it.

 Settings-Preferred Applications-Utilities leads to a dialogue window
 where a Terminal Emulator may be chosen, but the only one that works
 is the default X Terminal. If you click on Select Application you are
 led to /usr/bin. I tried xfterm4 but when I clicked on terminal in the
 menu nothing happened.

 I see under ~/.local/share/xfce4/helpers there is an xterm config file
 with the line:

 X-XFCE-Commands=/usr/bin/xterm.

 Is there something else I can point it too or do I need to emerge
 something else to improve the terminal in Xfce-4.6.1?

 I would try running 'xfterm4' from a command prompt (in the sucky xterm
 window, of course ;o) and look for error messages.  That's always the
 first thing I try when clicking on an icon doesn't work.






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrade of xfce4 degrades terminal

2009-09-21 Thread Philip Webb
On 09/21/2009 04:16 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:
 Before I did 'emerge -uvDN world' a couple of days ago
 the terminal that came with xfce4 was quite configurable with tabs.
 Now the terminal app really sucks.

Yet another problem when people do 'emerge ... world' (groan, not at you).
My own practice is to do 'emerge -Dup world' after 'eix-sync',
then choose which apps to actually emerge individually;
I keep a careful record of everything I installed  have updated.

090921 Maxim Wexler wrote:
 This is the terminal I want, the one I used to have:
   http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/terminal
 This is the terminal I have now:
   http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal

The link on the 2nd site to 'homepage' sends you to the 1st site.

I don't use the Xfce desktop, but I do use 'Terminal',
ie 'x11-terms/terminal-0.4.0', which has tabs  looks like the 1st site.
I notice there's a new dependency, if I were to remerge it :

  root:566 ~ emerge -pv x11-terms/terminal
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.6.0  61 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-terms/terminal-0.4.0 USE=dbus -debug -doc (-nls%)

You could try doing that emerge  see if it helps at all;
you could also try running 'terminal' from the CLI  see what happens.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca