[gentoo-user] request_module: runaway loop
Hi all, I'm trying to build a new duel quad-core server and I'm having some problems. Just after it loads the keymap, I get this error: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c A few minutes later, it panics. I'm loading from a pendrive that I've used before to build servers, so I don't THINK it's the installation media. Some of the search results I got from Goggle (who is my friend, btw) indicated that it might be a problem with drive labels. After unplugging both drives and retrying, I'm convinced thats not the case. Other chatter indicated that I was booting a 32-bin kernel in a 64-bit OS, or vise versa. Based solely on the name of the failing module, this has some credibility, but seems like a stretch since I've not changed the pendrive. Anyone else seen, and fixed, this problem before? Any advise would be welcome. -- Take care and have fun, Mike Diehl.
Re: [gentoo-user] request_module: runaway loop
On Monday 30 August 2010 07:06:05 Mike Diehl wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to build a new duel quad-core server and I'm having some problems. Just after it loads the keymap, I get this error: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c A few minutes later, it panics. I'm loading from a pendrive that I've used before to build servers, so I don't THINK it's the installation media. Some of the search results I got from Goggle (who is my friend, btw) indicated that it might be a problem with drive labels. After unplugging both drives and retrying, I'm convinced thats not the case. Other chatter indicated that I was booting a 32-bin kernel in a 64-bit OS, or vise versa. Based solely on the name of the failing module, this has some credibility, but seems like a stretch since I've not changed the pendrive. Anyone else seen, and fixed, this problem before? Any advise would be welcome. Not seen this myself, but I did find the following page: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=253794 This mentions reinstalling grub solved the issue. Is the pendrive for a 32bit installation or a 64bit installation? -- Joost
[gentoo-user] help with Persistent hard disk device names with udev
Hi, i would like to give persistent device names to the system hard
drives (just renaming its original device name to the one i want using
its serial number as identifier). I've created the following rules
which are not currently working. I'm trying to use device serial
numbers to properly set its device name. One of the main reasons for
doing that is i have a RAID composed by 3 disk (let's say sda sdc sdd)
and when i plug another 4 disks sda becomes sde, sdc becomes sdg and
so on while new drives take old device names, that's why i would like
to make it sure device names remains always the same.
Here are the rules
Código:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=VNVB05G2RKTRZH, NAME=hda
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=3QD0X58D, NAME=sdb
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0RS9G, NAME=sdc
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9VP0SBVN, NAME=sdc
KERNEL==hd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=VNVB05G2RKTRZH, NAME=hda%n
KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda%n
KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=3QD0X58D, NAME=sdb%n
KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0RS9G, NAME=sdc%n
KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9VP0SBVN, NAME=sdc%n
Should this work? Do some one know how can i get it to work? thanks in advanced
Re: [gentoo-user] help with Persistent hard disk device names with udev
On Monday 30 August 2010 15:00:28 Pau Peris wrote:
Hi, i would like to give persistent device names to the system hard
drives (just renaming its original device name to the one i want using
its serial number as identifier). I've created the following rules
which are not currently working. I'm trying to use device serial
numbers to properly set its device name. One of the main reasons for
doing that is i have a RAID composed by 3 disk (let's say sda sdc sdd)
and when i plug another 4 disks sda becomes sde, sdc becomes sdg and
so on while new drives take old device names, that's why i would like
to make it sure device names remains always the same.
Here are the rules
Código:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=VNVB05G2RKTRZH, NAME=hda
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=3QD0X58D, NAME=sdb
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0RS9G, NAME=sdc
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9VP0SBVN, NAME=sdc
KERNEL==hd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=VNVB05G2RKTRZH,
NAME=hda%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM,
NAME=sda%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=3QD0X58D,
NAME=sdb%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0RS9G,
NAME=sdc%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9VP0SBVN,
NAME=sdc%n
Should this work? Do some one know how can i get it to work? thanks in
advanced
Hi,
You need to use double = for all the fields you want to match.
In other words, for sda, you need to use:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}==9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
instead of:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
Otherwise it doesn't match it correctly or will try to change the serial for
the all the block-devices it finds.
(I found this out when trying to rename my network-interfaces)
--
Joost
[gentoo-user] OT: new mail client
Hello, OK, so I/m ready to move a few users from the mail client in Seamonkey to a new mail client package. Thunderbird looks reasonable, runs on Winblows and Linux and is not tied to a given desktop platform. I did read bugzilla about enigmail not working with the latest thunderbird: Bug 301114. ;-) Is there a better(alternative) way to use encryption with thunderbird? In general, I like the way the mozilla mail systems work, but, I want something, easy to admin (users do email backups), easy to migrate from seamonkey, and able to run on Winblows or Linux. A nice system wide backup strategy with around 2 dozen thunderbird clients, is also part of the strategy. So first users try to retrieve their lost emails, then ask an admin.. I like a separate backup system for email not part of the regular backup system. All comments are welcome. TIA, James
Re: [gentoo-user] help with Persistent hard disk device names with udev
Thx a lot!
2010/8/30 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org:
On Monday 30 August 2010 15:00:28 Pau Peris wrote:
Hi, i would like to give persistent device names to the system hard
drives (just renaming its original device name to the one i want using
its serial number as identifier). I've created the following rules
which are not currently working. I'm trying to use device serial
numbers to properly set its device name. One of the main reasons for
doing that is i have a RAID composed by 3 disk (let's say sda sdc sdd)
and when i plug another 4 disks sda becomes sde, sdc becomes sdg and
so on while new drives take old device names, that's why i would like
to make it sure device names remains always the same.
Here are the rules
Código:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=VNVB05G2RKTRZH, NAME=hda
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=3QD0X58D, NAME=sdb
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0RS9G, NAME=sdc
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9VP0SBVN, NAME=sdc
KERNEL==hd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=VNVB05G2RKTRZH,
NAME=hda%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM,
NAME=sda%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=3QD0X58D,
NAME=sdb%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0RS9G,
NAME=sdc%n KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9VP0SBVN,
NAME=sdc%n
Should this work? Do some one know how can i get it to work? thanks in
advanced
Hi,
You need to use double = for all the fields you want to match.
In other words, for sda, you need to use:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}==9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
instead of:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ATTR{serial}=9QK0T4WM, NAME=sda
Otherwise it doesn't match it correctly or will try to change the serial for
the all the block-devices it finds.
(I found this out when trying to rename my network-interfaces)
--
Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :) THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though... the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit', then 4:3, then 'just scan'. 'just scan' does the trick. It does not permanently set though... What's the link to the manual...? I never could find it. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200911/20091103184905109/BN59-00785F-02Eng.pdf Good luck! :)
[gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird and gpg
Stéphane Guedon stephane at 22decembre.eu writes: I have a problem concerning thunderbird and gpg. Did you see this bug: Bug 301114 hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:31, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :) THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though... the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit', then 4:3, then 'just scan'. 'just scan' does the trick. It does not permanently set though... What's the link to the manual...? I never could find it. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200911/20091103184905109/BN59-00785F-02Eng.pdf Accourding to the manual, it is possible to change the input source name. I would advice the OP to try again what I suggested, I have a very similar Samsung TV/Monitor, and using DVI and VGA works perfectly with the computer, but I started using an HDMI cable, and the image would distort, all borders would be missing, till I change the name of the HDMI2 (the one I'm using) to PC. Voila, everything to the right place. That's not written at the manual (neither yours, not the one for my TV), I learned it using a forum for HTPC owners. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org wrote: Nikos Chantziaras schrieb am 27.08.2010 18:06: On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.html (Read the section below Use a label): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swap defaults 0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3 nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. FWIW I'm using sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10 with GPT, labeled partitions and no initrd. My kernel has EFI_PARTITION compiled in (no module). My fstab looks like this: LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 LABEL=boot /bootext2defaults,noatime1 2 LABEL=root / ext4defaults,noatime0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults,noatime0 1 My kernel boot commandline still specified root by device name /dev/sda2 but otherwise my system works normally so far. :)
[gentoo-user] Output of emerge -NDpvu world
Hi all is it possible to page the output of emerge -NDpvu world in a terminal? 'emerge -NDpvu world | more' does not work. emilio
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail storage of TLS certificate
On Saturday 14 August 2010 16:09:13 you wrote: On Saturday 14 August 2010 10:09:00 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2010, Mick wrote: Any idea how I can reset this certificate as far as Kmail is concerned? When has it stored my clicking to save the acceptance of the certificate and how can I reset this? you can always dive into .kde/ and remove the offending lines from the config files... Thanks, that's what I'm trying to find out - which file and which lines. I've had a poke around but couldn't find anything relevant. OK, found it! The solution was to remove .kde4/share/config/ksslcertificatemanager -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Output of emerge -NDpvu world
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:18 AM, econti contiemi...@alice.it wrote: Hi all is it possible to page the output of emerge -NDpvu world in a terminal? 'emerge -NDpvu world | more' does not work. If you use screen you can then use the scrollback it provides
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Monday 30 August 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org wrote: Nikos Chantziaras schrieb am 27.08.2010 18:06: On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.htm l (Read the section below Use a label): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. FWIW I'm using sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10 with GPT, labeled partitions and no initrd. My kernel has EFI_PARTITION compiled in (no module). My fstab looks like this: LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 LABEL=boot /bootext2defaults,noatime1 2 LABEL=root / ext4defaults,noatime0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults,noatime0 1 My kernel boot commandline still specified root by device name /dev/sda2 but otherwise my system works normally so far. :) Don't listen to nay-sayers. Your fstab will work just fine and there's nothing wrong with it. The LABEL= sysntax has also worked for years and years now on all grub- supported filesystems that support volume labels. I don't know where a previous poster got the idea from that it is not supported, or you need an initrd - I have never used an initrd on Gentoo and have used that syntax since forever. Similar for claims of unreliability by someone else. The only cause I can think of is using weird grub patches or some combination of insane flags. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: KDE and hdparm (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Disable fcron logging)
On 24 August 2010 14:31, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mick writes: On Sunday 22 August 2010 22:39:47 Alex Schuster wrote: BTW, my two additional drives spin up when I log into KDE. Weird, they are not even mounted. From KDE-4.4.4 the start up interferes with the hard drives: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/232044 I don't why but it does, messes up any settings that hdparm may have set up and p*sses me off. o_O As soon as KDE starts up (even when waking up from suspend to ram) it resets the drives. I haven't found a way of telling it how to behave (i.e. by respecting existing settings in hdparm). Argh, that's annoying. Thanks for the information. O well, first I setuid'ed hdparm to make it work as a user, then I reverted that back as I started it in /etc/init.d/local, and now I'm again setuid'ing it so I can set the settings from /etc/conf.d/hdparm in ~/.kde4/Autostart/. I filed a bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248905 You might want to vote for it so it gets some attention and will hopefully be fixed soon. Thanks Wonko, As reported on https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334393 the workaround of: touch /etc/pm/power.d/harddrive stops KDE4.4.4/5 from messing up the existing hdparm settings (at least as far as acoustic management is concerned). At least now I don't have to listen this Seagate sata rattling all day! :-) -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Output of emerge -NDpvu world
On Monday 30 August 2010, econti wrote: Hi all is it possible to page the output of emerge -NDpvu world in a terminal? 'emerge -NDpvu world | more' does not work. emilio works with less...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Monday 30 August 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Pielmeierbil...@gentoo.org wrote: Nikos Chantziaras schrieb am 27.08.2010 18:06: On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.htm l (Read the section below Use a label): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. FWIW I'm using sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10 with GPT, labeled partitions and no initrd. My kernel has EFI_PARTITION compiled in (no module). My fstab looks like this: LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 LABEL=boot /bootext2defaults,noatime1 2 LABEL=root / ext4defaults,noatime0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults,noatime0 1 My kernel boot commandline still specified root by device name /dev/sda2 but otherwise my system works normally so far. :) Don't listen to nay-sayers. Your fstab will work just fine and there's nothing wrong with it. The LABEL= sysntax has also worked for years and years now on all grub- supported filesystems that support volume labels. I don't know where a previous poster got the idea from that it is not supported, or you need an initrd - I have never used an initrd on Gentoo and have used that syntax since forever. Similar for claims of unreliability by someone else. The only cause I can think of is using weird grub patches or some combination of insane flags. So I don't have to have the complete path in fstab like this: /dev/disk/by-label/boot/bootext2noatime1 2 /dev/disk/by-label/root/reiserfsdefaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/swapnoneswapsw0 0 /dev/disk/by-label/portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 Can you post a grub.conf file that uses labels? Sort of a example to look at and go by. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Alan McKinnon schrieb am 30.08.2010 18:32: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Monday 30 August 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org wrote: Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. FWIW I'm using sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10 with GPT, labeled partitions and no initrd. My kernel has EFI_PARTITION compiled in (no module). My fstab looks like this: LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 LABEL=boot /bootext2defaults,noatime1 2 LABEL=root / ext4defaults,noatime0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults,noatime0 1 My kernel boot commandline still specified root by device name /dev/sda2 but otherwise my system works normally so far. :) Don't listen to nay-sayers. Your fstab will work just fine and there's nothing wrong with it. The LABEL= sysntax has also worked for years and years now on all grub- supported filesystems that support volume labels. I don't know where a previous poster got the idea from that it is not supported, or you need an initrd - I have never used an initrd on Gentoo and have used that syntax since forever. Similar for claims of unreliability by someone else. The only cause I can think of is using weird grub patches or some combination of insane flags. If you are referring to my post please read again my statements. I am not a native speaker so I probably did not make this clear. I did not say that LABEL/UUID does not work within /etc/fstab. Specifying the root device by using the LABEL/UUID syntax in grub.conf/menu.lst however wont work without a proper initrd. I must confess I did not test it before but I was sure it does not work. I did some tests now (with sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10) and only the following syntax for the grub.conf kernel command-lines works. kernel /boot/kernel/kernel-2.6.35-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/sda3 All the others below need an initrd if you use GRUB LEGACY. Also the GRUB LEGACY manual [1] does not mention LABEL or UUID at all. With GRUB 2 it will probably work by using the --search menu entry [1]. kernel /boot/kernel/kernel-2.6.35-gentoo-r4 root=LABEL=root kernel /boot/kernel/kernel-2.6.35-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/disk/by-label/root kernel /boot/kernel/kernel-2.6.35-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/ab24cad5-ae0b-45d7-82f4-68357d5b6ff4 [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/grub.html [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#search -- Daniel Pielmeier signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Monday 30 August 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Pielmeierbil...@gentoo.org wrote: Nikos Chantziaras schrieb am 27.08.2010 18:06: On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.htm l (Read the section below Use a label): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. FWIW I'm using sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10 with GPT, labeled partitions and no initrd. My kernel has EFI_PARTITION compiled in (no module). My fstab looks like this: LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 LABEL=boot /bootext2defaults,noatime1 2 LABEL=root / ext4defaults,noatime0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults,noatime0 1 My kernel boot commandline still specified root by device name /dev/sda2 but otherwise my system works normally so far. :) Don't listen to nay-sayers. Your fstab will work just fine and there's nothing wrong with it. The LABEL= sysntax has also worked for years and years now on all grub- supported filesystems that support volume labels. I don't know where a previous poster got the idea from that it is not supported, or you need an initrd - I have never used an initrd on Gentoo and have used that syntax since forever. Similar for claims of unreliability by someone else. The only cause I can think of is using weird grub patches or some combination of insane flags. So I don't have to have the complete path in fstab like this: /dev/disk/by-label/boot/bootext2noatime1 2 /dev/disk/by-label/root/reiserfsdefaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/swapnoneswapsw0 0 /dev/disk/by-label/portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 Can you post a grub.conf file that uses labels? Sort of a example to look at and go by. Dale, there are two examples of fstabs in this message (actually three). But you only want to see those you didn't write. You just need to put LABEL=somelabel in the first column. -- Bill Longman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new mail client
On 08/30/2010 04:10 PM, James wrote: OK, so I/m ready to move a few users from the mail client in Seamonkey to a new mail client package. Thunderbird looks reasonable, runs on Winblows and Linux and is not tied to a given desktop platform. I did read bugzilla about enigmail not working with the latest thunderbird: Bug 301114. ;-) Is there a better(alternative) way to use encryption with thunderbird? Enigmail works great, if installed via usual extension mechanism. It's just, that the user (or you for them) has to do it once... In general, I like the way the mozilla mail systems work, but, I want something, easy to admin (users do email backups), easy to migrate from seamonkey, and able to run on Winblows or Linux. A nice system wide backup strategy with around 2 dozen thunderbird clients, is also part of the strategy. So first users try to retrieve their lost emails, then ask an admin.. I like a separate backup system for email not part of the regular backup system. TB3 brings archive support. I don't know if that is what you need, but see for yourself: http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/Archived+messages I prefer having all mails stored on the server (used with IMAP) and backing that up. Most users I know just forget to make backups/archives. Of course if they need a lost mail - you're right - it's work for us :( I think dovecot-imap has an automated archiving mechanism too... Bye, Daniel -- PGP key @ http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=0xBB9D4887op=get # gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0xBB9D4887 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] hotplugging usb devices no longer working
I have a sansa MP3 player and a Flip Video. Each plugs in as a usb device and presents as a fat file system. Both used to work, but don't today (it is has been a while--few months--since I last plugged them in. Now the device screen shows that it is connected, but I see nothing on the computer df shows no new file system mount shows no new file system I checked and FAT/VFAT are in the kernel # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET=iso8859-1 Both hal and udev are running 8045 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/sbin/hald --use-syslog --verbose=no 8046 ?S 0:00 hald-runner 8075 ?S 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event8 /dev/input/event7 /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event4 /dev/input/event3 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event5 8084 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-generic-backlight 8086 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-cpufreq 8087 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi 8095 ?S 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec) 8785 ?Ss 0:00 /bin/bash -c ps ax | grep hal 8787 ?S 0:00 grep hal 8131 ?Ss0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon 8794 ?Ss 0:00 /bin/bash -c ps ax | grep udev 8796 ?S 0:00 grep udev Any help would be appreciated thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new mail client
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:10 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: A nice system wide backup strategy with around 2 dozen thunderbird clients, is also part of the strategy. So first users try to retrieve their lost emails, then ask an admin.. I like a separate backup system for email not part of the regular backup system. pop3 is easy to backup, just copy the ~/.thundebird folder (%APPDATA%/thunderbird on Windows). You can use rscync, rsnapshot or a commercial program like CrashPlan. Another option is to provide an imap server with Zarafa which allows users to restore e-mails (1) and (brick) level backups server side (2) 1) http://doc.zarafa.com/6.40/User_Manual/en-US/html/_restoring_deleted_items.html 2) http://doc.zarafa.com/6.40/Administrator_Manual/en-US/html/_backup_amp_restore.html
[gentoo-user] ignore previous msg (Hotplugging not working)
I plugged into the desktop and looked on the laptop. Sorry for the noise, allan
[gentoo-user] Re: ignore previous msg (Hotplugging not working)
Allan Gottlieb wrote: I plugged into the desktop and looked on the laptop. Thanks for sharing, that made my day :) (Probably because I can so easily imagine that happening to me.) -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Output of emerge -NDpvu world
On Monday 30 August 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Monday 30 August 2010, econti wrote: Hi all is it possible to page the output of emerge -NDpvu world in a terminal? 'emerge -NDpvu world | more' does not work. emilio works with less... I've never understood why distro's still bother with more, it's so impractical.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Bill Longman wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Monday 30 August 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Pielmeierbil...@gentoo.org mailto:bil...@gentoo.org wrote: Nikos Chantziaras schrieb am 27.08.2010 18:06: On 08/27/2010 07:02 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Actually, you can: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot-rootfs/index.htm l (Read the section below Use a label): fstab: LABEL=ROOT / ext3defaults 1 1 LABEL=BOOT /boot ext3defaults 1 2 LABEL=SWAP swap swapdefaults 0 0 LABEL=HOME /home ext3 nosuid,auto 1 2 This syntax never worked here. Always resulted in an unbootable system. Only the /dev/disk/by-label/ syntax works reliably. Afaik if you are using GRUB LEGACY (0.97) and want to use LABEL/UUID in your grub.conf/menu.lst you also need an initrd. I think with GRUB 2 (1.98) it is possible without. You don't need an initrd for LABEL/UUID in /etc/fstab for both cases. FWIW I'm using sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10 with GPT, labeled partitions and no initrd. My kernel has EFI_PARTITION compiled in (no module). My fstab looks like this: LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 LABEL=boot /bootext2defaults,noatime 1 2 LABEL=root / ext4defaults,noatime 0 1 LABEL=home /home ext4defaults,noatime0 1 My kernel boot commandline still specified root by device name /dev/sda2 but otherwise my system works normally so far. :) Don't listen to nay-sayers. Your fstab will work just fine and there's nothing wrong with it. The LABEL= sysntax has also worked for years and years now on all grub- supported filesystems that support volume labels. I don't know where a previous poster got the idea from that it is not supported, or you need an initrd - I have never used an initrd on Gentoo and have used that syntax since forever. Similar for claims of unreliability by someone else. The only cause I can think of is using weird grub patches or some combination of insane flags. So I don't have to have the complete path in fstab like this: /dev/disk/by-label/boot/bootext2noatime 1 2 /dev/disk/by-label/root/reiserfsdefaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/swapnoneswapsw0 0 /dev/disk/by-label/portage/usr/portageext3defaults 0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/home/homereiserfsdefaults 1 1 Can you post a grub.conf file that uses labels? Sort of a example to look at and go by. Dale, there are two examples of fstabs in this message (actually three). But you only want to see those you didn't write. You just need to put LABEL=somelabel in the first column. -- Bill Longman That's what I wanted to clarify. I put the whole path but others didn't. I wasn't sure if they meant that literally or if they just shortened it a bit. It looks like it will work either way. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] hotplugging usb devices no longer working
On 31/08/10 06:49, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have a sansa MP3 player and a Flip Video. Each plugs in as a usb device and presents as a fat file system. Both used to work, but don't today (it is has been a while--few months--since I last plugged them in. Now the device screen shows that it is connected, but I see nothing on the computer df shows no new file system mount shows no new file system I checked and FAT/VFAT are in the kernel # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET=iso8859-1 Both hal and udev are running 8045 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/sbin/hald --use-syslog --verbose=no 8046 ?S 0:00 hald-runner 8075 ?S 0:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event8 /dev/input/event7 /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event4 /dev/input/event3 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event5 8084 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-generic-backlight 8086 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-cpufreq 8087 ?S 0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi 8095 ?S 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec) 8785 ?Ss 0:00 /bin/bash -c ps ax | grep hal 8787 ?S 0:00 grep hal 8131 ?Ss0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon 8794 ?Ss 0:00 /bin/bash -c ps ax | grep udev 8796 ?S 0:00 grep udev Any help would be appreciated thanks, allan What device screen do you mean? And where are you looking on the computer? When I insert a usb stick, there's a lot of output in /var/log/messages about the stick and the partition on it. Then I use mount /media/usbstick to mount it according to the appropriate entry in my /etc/fstab. Speaking of which, what's your /etc/fstab look like? If you use tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug the device in, does it see that it's connected? I suspect you're talking about auto mounting, such as KDE or Gnome does; can you manually mount them? If not, then I doubt auto mounting will either. Jake Moe
Re: [gentoo-user] ignore previous msg (Hotplugging not working)
On 31/08/10 06:57, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I plugged into the desktop and looked on the laptop. Sorry for the noise, allan Whups, only looked at the previous thread, didn't see this. Probably best if you reply to the thread with stuff like this, so we can keep track of it. And like Remy, this put a smile on my face. :-P Jake Moe
Re: [gentoo-user] ignore previous msg (Hotplugging not working)
Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com writes: On 31/08/10 06:57, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I plugged into the desktop and looked on the laptop. Sorry for the noise, allan Whups, only looked at the previous thread, didn't see this. Probably best if you reply to the thread with stuff like this, so we can keep track of it. I thought of that. The problem is that there is quite a delay between my sending the msg and seeing it appear in the newsgroup. I wanted to tell people right away to prevent wasted effort. Perhaps I should have replied to my local copy (gnus GCC), but then the references would not be right in the newsgroup. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] ignore previous msg (Hotplugging not working)
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com writes: On 31/08/10 06:57, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I plugged into the desktop and looked on the laptop. Sorry for the noise, *That* is a keeper. For the past few months I've had two keyboards on my desk - one for the Sun box and the other on the KVM for the Linux boxes. Innumerable times I've wondered why my screensaver password never got accepted. Until I realized I was on the wrong keyboard. Thanks for the grin, Allan. -- Bill Longman
[gentoo-user] How to fix messed up KDE menu icons?
I have a broken Firefox-3 reference in my KDE favorites menu. Is there a tool to fix these broken items because I haven't found one. -- Bill Longman Εν αρχη ην ο λογος
