Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition
Paul Hartman writes: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: And I could play the ancient spacewars game once again. Star Control? Wing Commander? hmm :) No, those came later. It's a clone of the probably very first computer action game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacewar! This is the one: http://jeff.rainbow-100.com/?p=93 Wow, it even has a download link. And it sort of runs in dosemu. Although the CGA version only (640x200), not the one using much nicer Hercules graphics (720x384), which I still have a copy of anyway. That was why I had started it on my old AT. Interestingly, while the nice animation of the SPACEWAR logo is way too fast to see, the game itself is playable. Not against the robot though, the wining strategy is to simply wait until it has no energy left due to excessive hyperjumping (which it normally doesn't do), and finish it with a single laser beam when it comes nearby. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel make files disappear
Em 28-07-2011 12:05, Alan McKinnon escreveu: On Thursday 28 July 2011 11:53:04 Daniel Hilst Selli did opine thusly: I have some old kernel trees here.. But there is no Makefiles for some of them. I did not remove the Makefiles. There is anyone having the same problem? Whats happen? I emerge -NuD periodically, some times I see my kernel being updated.. May portage remove my Makefiles?? In real life, portage seldom (if ever) *updates* a kernel src package. Almost all kernel versions, even ones with teeny-weeny -r changes in the version number, are an entirely new package which installs into it's own directory in /usr/src/ So, gentoo-sources-2.6.39-r1 will touch nothing belonging to gentoo-sources-2.6.39 This is in contrast to how most packages work, where -r versions contain gentoo patches or ebuild tweaks but still use exactly the same sources. Perhaps you have unmerged old kernel sources that were previously built. In this case portage will remove the files it put there and leave everything the compiler built. Run this: du -sh /usr/src/* Anything with a size of about 300M has probably had this happen. Intact trees that were built tend to come out at around 700M Thanks for replying, so this might be the case output - http://sprunge.us/YMAM Can this be done after a emerge --depclean, while booted on some newly emerged kernel? -- Do or do not... there is no try Yoda Master
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel make files disappear
On Friday, 29 July 2011 07:58:13 Daniel Hilst Selli did opine thusly: Em 28-07-2011 12:05, Alan McKinnon escreveu: On Thursday 28 July 2011 11:53:04 Daniel Hilst Selli did opine thusly: I have some old kernel trees here.. But there is no Makefiles for some of them. I did not remove the Makefiles. There is anyone having the same problem? Whats happen? I emerge -NuD periodically, some times I see my kernel being updated.. May portage remove my Makefiles?? In real life, portage seldom (if ever) *updates* a kernel src package. Almost all kernel versions, even ones with teeny-weeny -r changes in the version number, are an entirely new package which installs into it's own directory in /usr/src/ So, gentoo-sources-2.6.39-r1 will touch nothing belonging to gentoo-sources-2.6.39 This is in contrast to how most packages work, where -r versions contain gentoo patches or ebuild tweaks but still use exactly the same sources. Perhaps you have unmerged old kernel sources that were previously built. In this case portage will remove the files it put there and leave everything the compiler built. Run this: du -sh /usr/src/* Anything with a size of about 300M has probably had this happen. Intact trees that were built tend to come out at around 700M Thanks for replying, so this might be the case output - http://sprunge.us/YMAM Please don't use images on websites like that for command output, rather just copy the text from your console into the body of the mail. Can this be done after a emerge --depclean, while booted on some newly emerged kernel? --depclean is unlikely to do that as kernel sources almost always end up in world. It will behave different if you emerge the sources with -1 The running kernel has nothing to do with what portage may or may not do with your installed sources, much like how KDE will still run fine regardless of whether you have the tarballs downloaded or not, or whether you have KDE source trees lying around or not. I don't know what the answer to your question is, your statements are vague and only apply to principles but you want specifics. You are going to have to look inside those directories and see what is there, because I can't. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel make files disappear
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, 29 July 2011 07:58:13 Daniel Hilst Selli did opine thusly: Thanks for replying, so this might be the case output - http://sprunge.us/YMAM Please don't use images on websites like that for command output, rather just copy the text from your console into the body of the mail. I was curious, and I looked at it...that's not an image bin, that's a post-from-terminal pastebin. But, yeah, something like that is better-done inline in an email. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 03:25:48PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On my machine, it took this: root@fireball / # genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Thu Jul 28 12:33:11 2011 app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1 merge time: 1 hour, 9 minutes and 33 seconds. root@fireball / # I did stop it with a ctrl Z for about 5 minutes. I was deleting stuff to give it some more room. This is OOo: Tue Jul 5 05:15:01 2011 app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 merge time: 50 minutes and 27 seconds. That's about a average. Some were binary installs. I can't recall why I did that now but it was since it only took a minute or so. That's the report from this rig. AMD 4 cores running at 3.2Ghz with 16Gbs of ram. No tmpfs this time. That wouldn't be fair since I had to stop it for a few minutes. Dale Here is mine: Wed May 25 10:07:18 2011 app-office/libreoffice-3.3.2 merge time: 34 minutes and 10 seconds. On my Intel Core i7 920 with 12GB of RAM using tmpfs. :) Do those merge times include download time? I wonder... BTW, I was emerging libreoofice yesterday, and it took ~3.5 hours, although OOo usually took ~1 hour. It seemed as if it wasn't doing anything paralell, so I blamed my MAKEOPTS=-j -l4 (to which I changed some time ago, but all the OOo compiles were before that). I just tried today again with MAKEOPTS=-j4 and it took only ~1 hour ;). Guess dmake doesn't know the --load-average stuff ;) can't give a nice genlop -t output, as the first time i was building it first with FEATURES=buildpkgonly and then installing with --usepkg (just after i removed OOo), as portage didn't wan't to resolve the blocker, and i didn't want to be without it while it compiled ... ;) # genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Fri Jul 29 08:57:10 2011 app-office/libreoffice-3.3.3 merge time: 1 minute and 59 seconds. Fri Jul 29 13:55:42 2011 app-office/libreoffice-3.3.3 merge time: 1 hour, 7 minutes and 25 seconds. the first one is for the --usepkg binary merge ;), but I checked the timestamps in emerge.log and the compile was a small bit over 3.5h yoyo
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel make files disappear
On Friday 29 July 2011 13:31:39 Alan McKinnon wrote: Can this be done after a emerge --depclean, while booted on some newly emerged kernel? --depclean is unlikely to do that as kernel sources almost always end up in world. It will behave different if you emerge the sources with -1 Actually, emerge --depclean will remove old kernels. At least, it does that on my machine. I do, however, install with: emerge gentoo-sources This leads to sys-kernel/gentoo-sources to be entered into the world-file. Older versions will, as there is no version specified, be selected for removal by emerge --depclean To avoid this, the used versions need to be seperately specified. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: But if you emerge something and it has to be fetched first, is that counted in the time genlop shows or not? That is the question. I don't think it is counted but I'm not sure. That's what I thought, too, but then I simply tried to be sure. Download time _is_ counted. Now we know. If I was on dial-up again, I could sure test that theory. 3KBs/sec would certainly make a difference. :-( Pardon me if I refuse to go back tho. I like youtube to much. It's easier than that, I simply emerged vanilla-sources-3.0 after deleting the tarball. I did not use my digital wrist-watch which I could have done, instead I looked into emerge.log. The long numbers to the left are seconds since 1970, the difference is what genlop uses. The only question was whether it uses the line 'emerge (x of y) category/package-version to /' or '(x of y) Compiling/Packaging ...' to determine the start time. I set mine to fetch in the background so most of the time the fetch is done after a couple packages gets compiled. What about parallel emerges? I guess genlop will not take this into account. I would think not. As long as the tarball is downloaded before emerge gets to it to compile. I doubt it would even know how long it took to download either. I wasn't talking about the download time here, but about the total time. If I emerge two independent packages A and B, which take one hour each to build, what does genlop say if I use emerge -j and they build in parallel? This would take about two hours for each. And indeed, that's what genlop says. So genlop -t is inaccurate when you are emerging with the -j option. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
On Thursday 28 July 2011 22:49:10 Alan McKinnon wrote: Q: Holy shit, I can't believe you just sent that mail to ALL users. Legal will be all over us now having hissy fits. Have you got a god complex or something A: [beams with genuine pride] why, thank you! I'd love to see a copy of that email :)
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
On Thursday 28 July 2011 18:37:24 Dale wrote: Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That may explain why I can't copy anything to it but it works fine as far as reading goes. Thoughts? How do I check/change it? Headed to some man pages too. Dale :-) :-) To check this, you could try creating a new file (with size = 0) on the root of that drive, like (After you close and save all your work): touch mountpoint of drive/LetMeseeIfThisWorksOrIfTheKernelPanicsAgain If it doesn't panic, check if that file actually exists. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On Friday 29 Jul 2011 13:07:35 YoYo Siska wrote: Here is mine: Wed May 25 10:07:18 2011 app-office/libreoffice-3.3.2 merge time: 34 minutes and 10 seconds. On my Intel Core i7 920 with 12GB of RAM using tmpfs. :) Do those merge times include download time? I wonder... BTW, I was emerging libreoofice yesterday, and it took ~3.5 hours, although OOo usually took ~1 hour. It seemed as if it wasn't doing anything paralell, so I blamed my MAKEOPTS=-j -l4 (to which I changed some time ago, but all the OOo compiles were before that). I just tried today again with MAKEOPTS=-j4 and it took only ~1 hour ;). Guess dmake doesn't know the --load-average stuff ;) Hmm, OOo has failed many a time here with -j9. So now I always emerge it with -j1. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 21:41, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 22:49:10 Alan McKinnon wrote: Q: Holy shit, I can't believe you just sent that mail to ALL users. Legal will be all over us now having hissy fits. Have you got a god complex or something A: [beams with genuine pride] why, thank you! I'd love to see a copy of that email :) Reminds me of BOFH :-) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 03:33, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/27/2011 10:19 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: /me wonders where you are going with this... Downhill fast, probably :) Back in the day before cellphones, you needed to look a clock or wrist-watch to know what time it is. I have 2 cellphones, yet I still wear my Timex wrist-watch proudly :-) (Much more practical to glance at my wrist than fishing out the cellphone) Rgds. -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Mick wrote: On Friday 29 Jul 2011 13:07:35 YoYo Siska wrote: Here is mine: Wed May 25 10:07:18 2011 app-office/libreoffice-3.3.2 merge time: 34 minutes and 10 seconds. On my Intel Core i7 920 with 12GB of RAM using tmpfs. :) Do those merge times include download time? I wonder... BTW, I was emerging libreoofice yesterday, and it took ~3.5 hours, although OOo usually took ~1 hour. It seemed as if it wasn't doing anything paralell, so I blamed my MAKEOPTS=-j -l4 (to which I changed some time ago, but all the OOo compiles were before that). I just tried today again with MAKEOPTS=-j4 and it took only ~1 hour ;). Guess dmake doesn't know the --load-average stuff ;) Hmm, OOo has failed many a time here with -j9. So now I always emerge it with -j1. I been emerging with -j5 for ages. I haven't had any problems with that before. I have read about others having it but just not me. That is the weird part. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Botched Raid1 install
Daniel Frey djqfrey at gmail.com writes: fdisk does have a partition/drive limit of ~2.2TB, but this drive should still work with it. The only other option is GPT, but I don't think grub boots from that yet (unless you use grub2 with patches?) The failed install used media from March, 2011. I'm going to use newer installation media: install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso That should solve the gptpart and grub issues. fdisk-H 224 -S 56 /dev/sda That should align it to 4k blocks, I had to do the same on my SSD (224/56=4)... Nice to know. I'm new to linux software raid. I do run custom gentoo fire walls on 4 G Compact Flash; so I'll be seeking your advice, the next time I decide to build a new firewall, as it will use dual CF in a Raid 1 config... Once I gain some confidence in Raid1 for a workstation. Are the partitions on each drive *exactly* the same? If the end cylinder and start cylinder for the other drive is off by one it will affect two partitions, leaving them in a dirty state and the third in a clean state. Identical drives, identical partitioning. A new RAID1 install to begin later on today. It has been suggested kernel =2.6.37 will have (better?) support for 4k sectors disks [1]. I believe I have 2.6.37 on my htpc and it works fine with the 4k-aligned SSD. New install media should have the = 2.6.37 kernel, solving this issue. I would start over. YEP Are you using BIOS-raid? Nope. not type 'fd'. I did use fd on the partition type. Originally, I use ext4 on the boot partition. Later I change it to ext2 but neither would work. I now assume the borked install was not due to using ext4 on boot partition, but grub-kernel-mdadm-diskformat issues from my research and the errors I saw. However, there's a lot of information on how to use mdraid and create native linux software raid partitions. This is the best(most current)doc I have found. Let me know if a better doc to follow exists for gentoo Raid1 installation [1] native linux raid partitions, they were /dev/md0, /dev/md1, etc. some of the errors I got were unique to that md125, md126, md127 type of errors. [1] talks about a work around for that. I can't really help more until I know exactly what you are trying to do. New install (new thread when trouble arises) Workstation (amd 64 dual 2t Seagate drives) all RAID1 for boot,/,swap. Right now (to me, anyway) it looks like you are mixing software raid and BIOS fakeraid, as with native mdadm you generally don't have partitions (/dev/md126p1, /dev/md126p2, etc) with native raid (which is /dev/md0, /dev/md1, etc) as I said above. I check the bios, no raid activated in Bios [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software#Setup_RAID
[gentoo-user] Re: Botched Raid1 install
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: grub in Gentoo includes a GPT patch: /usr/portage/sys-boot/grub/files/grub-0.97-gpt.patch I'm using GPT and grub-0.97-r10 and it works. Is this true for install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso ??? My install media of choice now. If not then I can just emerge the GPT patched grub and gptpart during the install? If not, then after the initial install and enter the system via chrooting a rebooted system and patch grub? I think this is at the heart of my failure last April, to get a RAID1 install correct. That and the 4K block problem on 2T drives. This [1] doc only glosses over that issue so maybe somebody will enhance the the wiki document. I also intend to use ext4 for all 3 partitions, boot,root,swap; unless there exist a strong, compelling reason to use ext-2 for the boot partition ??? ease of recovery ? [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software#Setup_RAID James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Botched Raid1 install
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I also intend to use ext4 for all 3 partitions, boot,root,swap; unless there exist a strong, compelling reason to use ext-2 for the boot partition ??? ease of recovery ? I gather that it's now possible to put your swap in a swap file on a filesystem, as opposed to giving it its own partition, but...why? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Botched Raid1 install
On Friday, 29 July 2011 13:30:18 Michael Mol did opine thusly: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:23 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I also intend to use ext4 for all 3 partitions, boot,root,swap; unless there exist a strong, compelling reason to use ext-2 for the boot partition ??? ease of recovery ? I gather that it's now possible to put your swap in a swap file on a filesystem, as opposed to giving it its own partition, but...why? A swap partition is permanent - you pretty much always have it all the time. You might not have it swapon'ed all the time, but the several GB it takes up is always consumed on the disk. You can't easily free up disk space to make room for a temporary swap partition, usually something has to be unmounted first (to then be fs-reduced to make space). If that partition is the only one (common on desktop systems) it is mounted at / and you can't unmount it. Swap *files* solve all these problems, all you need is enough free space on the filesystems to accommodate the temporary swap you need. LVM also goes a long way towards making this easier, but dealing with LVM and mkswap is considerably more involved than just making a swap file. Rules of thumb: Permanent swap = use a swap partition Temporary swap = use a swap file. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
From: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) I wouldn't. While LibreOffice may have some advances at the moment, I'm still interested in following main-line OOo - now being setting under Apache. Please do not force us to convert from OO to LO. I have no problem with separate installs for each, but there will be those (like me) that want the official OO installs. That said, I have more confidence in Apache managing OO than I do TDF with LO, having observed TDF's mailing lists for several months (before finally dropping off in favor of Apache OO). I know others will have different opinions; but that (again) is why we should allow those using OO to remain using OO. Ben
[gentoo-user] SSDs, swap, caching, other unusual uses
Something that's been tickling my brain for a couple years now, and you guys are probably the right ones to ask. I haven't dropped coin for an SSD (yet), but I was wondering about uses for them beyond using them for / or /home. 1) What about sitting swap (partition, file, whatever) on the SSD? Presumably, in scenarios where expanding the RAM in a system is prohibitively expensive, an SSD could reduce the impact of swap thrash. 2) While my system rarely goes above using 2-2.5GB of RAM, I enjoy having 6-8GB of RAM, just for the file cache. Of course, I lose that when I reboot; the cache needs to be repopulated. Has there been any work in the kernel for doing things like Vista/Win7's ReadyBoost? ReadyBoost has a ridiculous limit to only using 4GB of a flash drive, but I'd think that an 80GB SSD would be a massive performance improvement. Obviously, for something like Gentoo, putting an SSD-based filesystem under /var/tmp makes a lot of sense, but what other uses have been tried? How'd they work out? -- :wq
[gentoo-user] Re: Botched Raid1 install
Michael Mol mikemol at gmail.com writes: I also intend to use ext4 for all 3 partitions, boot,root,swap; I gather that it's now possible to put your swap in a swap file on a filesystem, as opposed to giving it its own partition, but...why? Sorry, only for boot and root; definitely not for swap I will be using RAID-1 on boot, root and swap too so the system does not fail, if the swap on one drive fails. James
[gentoo-user] Netatalk 2.2 for Gentoo?
Hi list, as a Mac user who recently began migrating machines to OS X Lion, I am wondering if some kind soul is already working on net-fs/netatalk 2.2.0 for Gentoo? The existing version 2.1.5 does not support AFP 3.3, which is required by Lion's modified Time Machine implementation. -Ralph
[gentoo-user] Re: Netatalk 2.2 for Gentoo?
Ralph Seichter: as a Mac user who recently began migrating machines to OS X Lion, I am wondering if some kind soul is already working on net-fs/netatalk 2.2.0 for Gentoo? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353177 Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
BRM wrote: From: Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátalscarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) I wouldn't. While LibreOffice may have some advances at the moment, I'm still interested in following main-line OOo - now being setting under Apache. Please do not force us to convert from OO to LO. I have no problem with separate installs for each, but there will be those (like me) that want the official OO installs. That said, I have more confidence in Apache managing OO than I do TDF with LO, having observed TDF's mailing lists for several months (before finally dropping off in favor of Apache OO). I know others will have different opinions; but that (again) is why we should allow those using OO to remain using OO. Ben If you want it to stay in the tree, you will have to find someone to maintain it or maintain it yourself. Otherwise, it looks like OOo is going to be checking out pretty soon. I would rather stay with OOo myself but I'm not a dev and to be honest, have no interest in being one either. Just saying. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 18:37:24 Dale wrote: Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That may explain why I can't copy anything to it but it works fine as far as reading goes. Thoughts? How do I check/change it? Headed to some man pages too. Dale :-) :-) To check this, you could try creating a new file (with size = 0) on the root of that drive, like (After you close and save all your work): touchmountpoint of drive/LetMeseeIfThisWorksOrIfTheKernelPanicsAgain If it doesn't panic, check if that file actually exists. -- Joost It worked fine and it was there with 0 bytes. Weird. I sort of gave up on this drive. I had a very kind soul to send me a video card when I did this build. He also sent me a 250Gb drive. I copied all I could to that but did lose a LOT of my videos and such. Anyway, I'm doing this right now: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc I figure that will put it back like brand new and very blank. I'll recreate my partition, throw a file system on it and see if it will let me copy back to it or not. While I am at it, what is the best file system for videos? That is the biggest thing I use that drive for. I had a LOT of NCIS, CSI and other shows that are now gone. Anyway, what are opinions on a file system for videos on a 750Gb drive? I had reiserfs on it before. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: But if you emerge something and it has to be fetched first, is that counted in the time genlop shows or not? That is the question. I don't think it is counted but I'm not sure. That's what I thought, too, but then I simply tried to be sure. Download time _is_ counted. Now we know. If I was on dial-up again, I could sure test that theory. 3KBs/sec would certainly make a difference. :-( Pardon me if I refuse to go back tho. I like youtube to much. It's easier than that, I simply emerged vanilla-sources-3.0 after deleting the tarball. I did not use my digital wrist-watch which I could have done, instead I looked into emerge.log. The long numbers to the left are seconds since 1970, the difference is what genlop uses. The only question was whether it uses the line 'emerge (x of y) category/package-version to /' or '(x of y) Compiling/Packaging ...' to determine the start time. Smarty pants. :-P LOL I set mine to fetch in the background so most of the time the fetch is done after a couple packages gets compiled. What about parallel emerges? I guess genlop will not take this into account. I would think not. As long as the tarball is downloaded before emerge gets to it to compile. I doubt it would even know how long it took to download either. I wasn't talking about the download time here, but about the total time. If I emerge two independent packages A and B, which take one hour each to build, what does genlop say if I use emerge -j and they build in parallel? This would take about two hours for each. And indeed, that's what genlop says. So genlop -t is inaccurate when you are emerging with the -j option. Wonko Yea, when you have multiple compiles running at the same time, genlop is off from then on. It is the only thing I don't like about that option. Doing a genlop -t package name is no longer accurate either. I do use that sometimes too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Some of the widget thingys. What's with the big eyeballs anyway? They watch :) No, there's no other purpose. I have at least one instance of XEyes on my desktop since I found this little application in 1992 when I first started using a Sun workstation. But it is since some months only that I had the idea to have multiple ones. Well, that's the nice thing about plasmids, they stay behind application windows, so the do not get in the way. I gave the little worm looking thing a try once. I wasn't much on the eyes thing. I guess I don't like someone looking over my shoulder and watching me. lol I like KDE to. I just don't take much time learning all the stuff like I should. I learnt a lot on the KDE mailing list (which is also a nice one, with helpful people). Especially about this Akonadi stuff that the new KDEPIM is using. I subscribe there too. I just get to a point where things work and I tend to leave well enough alone. :/ For me, desktop 1: Seamonkey browser desktop 2: Seamonkey email desktop 3: Konsole with at least two tabs desktop 5: Konqueror as root Why this? I use Konqueror for all sorts of things. I mostly use it to edit config files or something like that. I don't like Dolphin to much. It's OK but just not for me. Maybe one day. I got the local radar thing loaded up and it uses a good bit. We are expecting some storms here today. Since they are coming from my blind side, I watch the radar so I don't get wet. lol Is this a plasmoid? This would be a nice one to have. It runs on a tab on Seamonkey. It my local radar from weather.gov. How do you tell KDE that you want a widget thingy on one desktop and not all of them? I figured out how to get one that I saw on your screenshot but it put it on them all. I only want it on one tho. I can't seem to find the magic button. Like Yohan said :) Though I'd like if plasmoids could also be made sticky, on desktops and/or activities. Maybe they'll implement this, I think this is on the list. Or does 4.7 already have this feature? Wonko I tried that but it messed up my slideshow background. I guess I would have to set it up for each desktop. I'll just keep using Gkrellm I guess. It works pretty well. I have not tried the activities thing yet. I don't really know much about it. I need to find a howto on KDE that is up to date. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 18:37:24 Dale wrote: Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That may explain why I can't copy anything to it but it works fine as far as reading goes. Thoughts? How do I check/change it? Headed to some man pages too. Dale :-) :-) To check this, you could try creating a new file (with size = 0) on the root of that drive, like (After you close and save all your work): touchmountpoint of drive/LetMeseeIfThisWorksOrIfTheKernelPanicsAgain If it doesn't panic, check if that file actually exists. -- Joost It worked fine and it was there with 0 bytes. Weird. I sort of gave up on this drive. I had a very kind soul to send me a video card when I did this build. He also sent me a 250Gb drive. I copied all I could to that but did lose a LOT of my videos and such. Anyway, I'm doing this right now: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc I figure that will put it back like brand new and very blank. I'll recreate my partition, throw a file system on it and see if it will let me copy back to it or not. While I am at it, what is the best file system for videos? That is the biggest thing I use that drive for. I had a LOT of NCIS, CSI and other shows that are now gone. Anyway, what are opinions on a file system for videos on a 750Gb drive? I had reiserfs on it before. I had a few terabytes of my own DVD rips on ext4 on a 3TB RAID5 once upon a time. Worked very well. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: It worked fine and it was there with 0 bytes. Weird. I sort of gave up on this drive. I had a very kind soul to send me a video card when I did this build. He also sent me a 250Gb drive. I copied all I could to that but did lose a LOT of my videos and such. Anyway, I'm doing this right now: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc I figure that will put it back like brand new and very blank. I'll recreate my partition, throw a file system on it and see if it will let me copy back to it or not. While I am at it, what is the best file system for videos? That is the biggest thing I use that drive for. I had a LOT of NCIS, CSI and other shows that are now gone. Anyway, what are opinions on a file system for videos on a 750Gb drive? I had reiserfs on it before. I had a few terabytes of my own DVD rips on ext4 on a 3TB RAID5 once upon a time. Worked very well. I'm not picky. Unless someone comes up with something better, I'll give ext4 a try. I have read it is pretty swift plus it is some shiney new . . . stuff. ;-) Shhh. There may be a lady on here too. Read between the lines. I'm just curious as to how much longer dd is going to take. I wish it has some sort of a progress bar or something. :/ Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Am 30.07.2011 01:06, schrieb Dale: Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: While I am at it, what is the best file system for videos? That is the biggest thing I use that drive for. I had a LOT of NCIS, CSI and other shows that are now gone. Anyway, what are opinions on a file system for videos on a 750Gb drive? I had reiserfs on it before. I guess you won't motice much of a difference. Use what you like and know best. I had a few terabytes of my own DVD rips on ext4 on a 3TB RAID5 once upon a time. Worked very well. I'm not picky. Unless someone comes up with something better, I'll give ext4 a try. I'm using ext3 mostly, and recently also ext4 because, why not. The portage tree is on reiserfs, because I read it's fast and efficient with small files. And simply because I wanted to lean how to use it. On the other hand, I also read later that it will slow down with every emerge --sync. But for large files, it probably won't matter much. I think ext is a little slow when deleting large files compared to some other file system (JFS? Reiser maybe?), but for me it's not bad. Anyway, putting all those thoughts into it probably already has cost more time than choosing the best file system would have saved me. I'm just curious as to how much longer dd is going to take. I wish it has some sort of a progress bar or something. :/ Find the PID of the dd process with ps ax | grep [d]d or somethhing, then kill -USR1 pid. This will dd output how far it is. BTW, I like how the threads tend to soon have nothing to do with the subject lately. Wonko
[gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
My laptop's Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller uses the r8169 driver. On kernel 2.6.36 it works fine, but on 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 it doesn't work and continuously outputs eth0: unable to apply firmware patch to dmesg. I found this workaround: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-882599-start-0.html I'm just wondering if anyone has run into the same problem and found a better solution. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Netatalk 2.2 for Gentoo?
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote: Ralph Seichter: as a Mac user who recently began migrating machines to OS X Lion, I am wondering if some kind soul is already working on net-fs/netatalk 2.2.0 for Gentoo? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353177 Hartmut FYI, netatalk 2.1.5 for AFP (I don't use anything else) is working for me here with OS X Lion. -- Manuel A. McLure WW1FA man...@mclure.org http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
Alex Schuster wrote: Am 30.07.2011 01:06, schrieb Dale: I'm just curious as to how much longer dd is going to take. I wish it has some sort of a progress bar or something. :/ Find the PID of the dd process with ps ax | grep [d]d or somethhing, then kill -USR1pid. This will dd output how far it is. BTW, I like how the threads tend to soon have nothing to do with the subject lately. Wonko Thanks for the info. It was far enough along I think. Actually this thread is still on the same topic as before. This is related to the issue I had with Firefox and a kernel panic. The thread just developed as things were tried and ruled out. I'm just hoping this drive will work and no more panics. If it still does, this thread may live a while longer yet. :-( Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] RAID-1 install
Ok so my first issue is the installation media and a lack of tools for GPT (GUID Partition Table). On the minimal.iso [1] I see in sbin: cfdisk fdisk mac-fdisk pmac-fdisk sfdisk Perhaps another installation media that makes setting up the identical (raid) drives that have the 4K block issue. Seagate Disk Model=ST32000542AS I have previously tried gymnastics using fdisk (no thanks, not this time). sfdisk tells you not to use it, so maybe use gparted? or gpt-fdisk [2]. I do not have confidence in cfdisk trickery. Is there any gentoo installation media that has a robust partitioning tool to simplify the 4k block (GPT) issue? Maybe I missed it on the minimal CD? [1] install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso [2] http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ suggestions are most welcome. James
