[gentoo-user] accented characters in KDE apps
In Gvim I can enter 'e-umlaut' via the keystrokes 'control-k e : ', ie ë . Kate has a Vi mode, which seems to reproduce Vim fairly well, but there's no sign of 'control-k' or any substitute. KDE System Settings has a menu for setting a compose key, but tests with 'left-control' 'pause' in Konsole Kate did nothing. I tried in Kate with Luxi Mono Courier(IBM), Konsole with LM Fixed(Misc). I don't have the KDE desktop pkgs installed, but use many apps it shouldn't make a difference. Does anyone know if how accented characters cb entered in KDE apps ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] wicd will not connect to wireless network
Hi, After running an update yesterday (about 50 packages) on my ~x86 laptop, wicd stopped working, and no wicd was not updated neither was any other network related packages. Today after a reboot my wireless network refused to start from wicd, starting it manually works. This is a part of the wicd.log: 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: enctype is wpa 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: Generating psk... 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: ['/usr/bin/wpa_passphrase', 'DMJ', 'Do_not_care_about_this'] 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: Attempting to authenticate... 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: ['wpa_supplicant', '-B', '-i', 'wlan0', '-c', '/var/lib/wicd/configurations/000f90ac2780', '-D', dbus.String(u'wext', variant_level=1)] 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: ['iwconfig', 'wlan0', 'essid', '--', 'DMJ'] 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: iwconfig wlan0 channel 13 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:0F:90:AC:27:80 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS COMPLETED 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Running DHCP with hostname mutgdjoda1 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -h mutgdjoda1 --noipv4ll wlan0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: dhcpcd[12434]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: DHCP connection successful 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: not verifying 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Connecting thread exiting. 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: ifconfig wlan0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: IP Address is: None 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Sending connection attempt result success 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: ifconfig eth0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: iwconfig wlan0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Forced disconnect on 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -k wlan0 Running the commands by hand everything works: # wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /var/lib/wicd/configurations/000f90ac2780 -D wext # wpa_cli status Selected interface 'wlan0' bssid=00:0f:90:ac:27:80 ssid=DMJ id=0 mode=station pairwise_cipher=TKIP group_cipher=TKIP key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_state=COMPLETED ip_address=192.168.1.21 # /sbin/dhcpcd -h mutgdjoda1 --noipv4ll wlan0 dhcpcd[28962]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process # ifconfig wlan0 wlan0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500 metric 1 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:18:de:e1:c9:71 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 128 bytes 21081 (20.5 KiB) RX errors 0 dropped 20 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 143 bytes 24546 (23.9 KiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 And my wireless connection works! Anny suggestions what's wrong? Regards, -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
[gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Thursday night, I emerged some packages Thu Feb 23 23:26:44 2012 net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.6.3-r300 Thu Feb 23 23:29:44 2012 www-client/midori-0.4.3 Thu Feb 23 23:45:36 2012 sys-apps/portage-2.1.10.49 Thu Feb 23 23:52:50 2012 media-libs/libpng-1.5.9 Thu Feb 23 23:53:45 2012 sys-apps/openrc-0.9.9 Thu Feb 23 23:56:43 2012 dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5.0-r2 Thu Feb 23 23:58:35 2012 media-libs/libmikmod-3.2.0_beta2-r5 Thu Feb 23 23:59:20 2012 media-libs/vo-aacenc-0.1.2 Fri Feb 24 00:00:44 2012 dev-libs/libevent-2.0.17 Fri Feb 24 00:06:11 2012 dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.8-r5 Fri Feb 24 00:07:26 2012 media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.25-r1 Fri Feb 24 00:08:35 2012 sys-apps/file-5.11 Fri Feb 24 00:10:28 2012 media-libs/imlib2-1.4.5 Fri Feb 24 00:15:00 2012 sys-apps/util-linux-2.20.1-r2 Fri Feb 24 00:15:18 2012 dev-util/intltool-0.50.1 Fri Feb 24 00:19:57 2012 net-print/hplip-3.12.2-r1 Fri Feb 24 00:23:30 2012 media-sound/mpd-0.16.7 Fri Feb 24 00:23:47 2012 dev-tex/latexmk-430a Fri Feb 24 00:24:20 2012 dev-tex/latex-beamer-3.13 On Friday morning, I started having network problems. wicd would try to connect to the access point, and fail. [ 49.754744] r8169 :01:00.0: eth0: link down [ 50.958354] r8169 :01:00.0: eth0: link down [ 52.349167] wlan0: authenticate with 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d (try 1) [ 52.355694] wlan0: authenticated [ 52.355762] wlan0: associate with 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d (try 1) [ 52.358116] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=6) [ 52.358130] wlan0: associated [ 58.579496] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d by local choice (reason=3) [ 58.589726] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain [ 58.751572] r8169 :01:00.0: eth0: link down [ 59.954878] r8169 :01:00.0: eth0: link down [ 61.359184] wlan0: authenticate with 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d (try 1) [ 61.365490] wlan0: authenticated [ 61.365561] wlan0: associate with 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d (try 1) [ 61.367884] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=6) [ 61.367898] wlan0: associated [ 65.108874] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:01:e3:4b:4a:6d by local choice (reason=3) [ 65.119716] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain [ 65.295639] r8169 :01:00.0: eth0: link down [ 262.492240] r8169 :01:00.0: eth0: link down A bit of tracking plus memories of bygone days led me to realise that, for some reason, the two copies of dhcpcd client were being run! One was started by wicd, after it associates to the AP. But how'bout the other one? Well, on boot up this morning, I saw that, for the first time in a *very long while* that DHCPCD is being started at boot time as a service. Now, I am sure I didn't include it as a service. Gee-Mi-Ni ~ # rc-update show alsasound | default bootmisc | boot consolefont | boot dbus | default devfs |sysinit dmesg |sysinit fsck | boot gpm | default hostname | boot hwclock | boot keymaps | boot killprocs |shutdown local | default nonetwork localmount | boot metalog | boot modules | boot mount-ro |shutdown mtab | boot net.lo | boot netmount | default procfs | boot root | boot savecache |shutdown swap | boot swapfiles | boot sysctl | boot termencoding | boot udev |sysinit udev-postmount | default urandom | boot wicd | boot Okay, on the other hand rc-status showed something I haven't seen before Dynamic Runlevel: needed sysfs[started] dhcpcd [started] Huh, simple enough, some other service needs dhcpcd to be running. Okay. Let me see which one it is: Gee-Mi-Ni init.d # grep dhcpcd /etc/init.d/* /etc/init.d/dhcpcd:command=/sbin/dhcpcd /etc/init.d/dhcpcd:pidfile=/var/run/dhcpcd.pid /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant: before dns dhcpcd net uh, apparently none of them? Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Cheers, W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd will not connect to wireless network
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:19:56 +0100 Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: Hi, After running an update yesterday (about 50 packages) on my ~x86 laptop, wicd stopped working, and no wicd was not updated neither was any other network related packages. Today after a reboot my wireless network refused to start from wicd, starting it manually works. This is a part of the wicd.log: 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: enctype is wpa 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: Generating psk... 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: ['/usr/bin/wpa_passphrase', 'DMJ', 'Do_not_care_about_this'] 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: Attempting to authenticate... 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: ['wpa_supplicant', '-B', '-i', 'wlan0', '-c', '/var/lib/wicd/configurations/000f90ac2780', '-D', dbus.String(u'wext', variant_level=1)] 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: ['iwconfig', 'wlan0', 'essid', '--', 'DMJ'] 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: iwconfig wlan0 channel 13 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:0F:90:AC:27:80 2012/02/26 09:53:51 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS DISCONNECTED 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS COMPLETED 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Running DHCP with hostname mutgdjoda1 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -h mutgdjoda1 --noipv4ll wlan0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: dhcpcd[12434]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: DHCP connection successful 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: not verifying 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Connecting thread exiting. 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: ifconfig wlan0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: IP Address is: None 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Sending connection attempt result success 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: ifconfig eth0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: iwconfig wlan0 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: Forced disconnect on 2012/02/26 09:53:52 :: /sbin/dhcpcd -k wlan0 Running the commands by hand everything works: # wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /var/lib/wicd/configurations/000f90ac2780 -D wext # wpa_cli status Selected interface 'wlan0' bssid=00:0f:90:ac:27:80 ssid=DMJ id=0 mode=station pairwise_cipher=TKIP group_cipher=TKIP key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_state=COMPLETED ip_address=192.168.1.21 # /sbin/dhcpcd -h mutgdjoda1 --noipv4ll wlan0 dhcpcd[28962]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process # ifconfig wlan0 wlan0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500 metric 1 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:18:de:e1:c9:71 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 128 bytes 21081 (20.5 KiB) RX errors 0 dropped 20 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 143 bytes 24546 (23.9 KiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 And my wireless connection works! Anny suggestions what's wrong? Regards, I'm having similar issues with an Intel N6300 since a reboot. In my case it fails with this: [ 76.232020] wlan0: deauthenticating from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx by local choice (reason=3) Which means something deauthed the connection in the meantime. This happens with kernel 3.2.6, but rebooting into 3.2.5 works just fine. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you are also running 3.2.6, try 3.2.5 - if that works we are onto something. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd will not connect to wireless network
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:34:01AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:19:56 +0100 Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: After running an update yesterday (about 50 packages) on my ~x86 laptop, wicd stopped working, and no wicd was not updated neither was any other network related packages. Today after a reboot my wireless network refused to start from wicd, starting it manually works. This is a part of the wicd.log: I'm having similar issues with an Intel N6300 since a reboot. In my case it fails with this: [ 76.232020] wlan0: deauthenticating from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx by local choice (reason=3) Which means something deauthed the connection in the meantime. This happens with kernel 3.2.6, but rebooting into 3.2.5 works just fine. You guys are almost certainly running into the same problem as the one I mentioned in the thread I just started. Try `pkill dhcpcd` and associate again. Unfortunately I couldn't figure out why all of a sudden dhcpcd decides to start on boot. Cheers, W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] accented characters in KDE apps
Am Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012, 03:32:58 schrieb Philip Webb: In Gvim I can enter 'e-umlaut' via the keystrokes 'control-k e : ', ie ë . Kate has a Vi mode, which seems to reproduce Vim fairly well, but there's no sign of 'control-k' or any substitute. KDE System Settings has a menu for setting a compose key, but tests with 'left-control' 'pause' in Konsole Kate did nothing. I tried in Kate with Luxi Mono Courier(IBM), Konsole with LM Fixed(Misc). I don't have the KDE desktop pkgs installed, but use many apps it shouldn't make a difference. Does anyone know if how accented characters cb entered in KDE apps ? http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey Typing Macrons, Umlauts, Accents, ... The compose key will be now whatever you have configured it to be, e. g. right logo. Macrons compose + shift + hyphen then vowel or compose + underscore then vowel -- āēīōū ĀĒĪŌŪ Umlauts compose + shift + single quote then vowel or compose + double quotes then vowel -- äëïöü ÄËÏÖÜ google is your friend. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd will not connect to wireless network
On Sunday 26 February 2012 10.52:58 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:34:01AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:19:56 +0100 Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: After running an update yesterday (about 50 packages) on my ~x86 laptop, wicd stopped working, and no wicd was not updated neither was any other network related packages. Today after a reboot my wireless network refused to start from wicd, starting it manually works. This is a part of the wicd.log: I'm having similar issues with an Intel N6300 since a reboot. In my case it fails with this: [ 76.232020] wlan0: deauthenticating from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx by local choice (reason=3) Which means something deauthed the connection in the meantime. This happens with kernel 3.2.6, but rebooting into 3.2.5 works just fine. You guys are almost certainly running into the same problem as the one I mentioned in the thread I just started. Try `pkill dhcpcd` and associate again. Unfortunately I couldn't figure out why all of a sudden dhcpcd decides to start on boot. Yes, that was it, killing the dhcpcd made it possible to bring the interface up and associate with the AP. As openrc was one of the packages upgraded yesterday (0.9.8.4 - 0.9.9.1) I assume (guess) that is why dhcpcd gets started at boot. Now I just have to figure out a way to stop this from happening. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] accented characters in KDE apps
120226 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012, 03:32:58 schrieb Philip Webb: In Gvim I can enter 'e-umlaut' via the keystrokes 'control-k e : ', ie ë . Kate has a Vi mode, which seems to reproduce Vim fairly well, but there's no sign of 'control-k' or any substitute. KDE System Settings has a menu for setting a compose key, but tests with 'left-control' 'pause' in Konsole Kate did nothing. I tried in Kate with Luxi Mono Courier(IBM), Konsole with LM Fixed(Misc). I don't have the KDE desktop pkgs installed, but use many apps it shouldn't make a difference. Does anyone know if how accented characters cb entered in KDE apps ? google is your friend. http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey Yes, I saw that, but ... Typing Macrons, Umlauts, Accents, ... The compose key will be now whatever you have configured it to be, e. g. right logo. ... as I said above, it doesn't work. Thanks for trying, but please read the full msg before doing so (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] accented characters in KDE apps
Am Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012, 07:44:37 schrieb Philip Webb: 120226 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012, 03:32:58 schrieb Philip Webb: In Gvim I can enter 'e-umlaut' via the keystrokes 'control-k e : ', ie ë . Kate has a Vi mode, which seems to reproduce Vim fairly well, but there's no sign of 'control-k' or any substitute. KDE System Settings has a menu for setting a compose key, but tests with 'left-control' 'pause' in Konsole Kate did nothing. I tried in Kate with Luxi Mono Courier(IBM), Konsole with LM Fixed(Misc). I don't have the KDE desktop pkgs installed, but use many apps it shouldn't make a difference. Does anyone know if how accented characters cb entered in KDE apps ? google is your friend. http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey Yes, I saw that, but ... Typing Macrons, Umlauts, Accents, ... The compose key will be now whatever you have configured it to be, e. g. right logo. ... as I said above, it doesn't work. Thanks for trying, but please read the full msg before doing so (smile). well, worked here.. do you have a unicode enabled system? fonts? -- #163933
[gentoo-user] Re: accented characters in KDE apps
Philip Webb wrote: 120226 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 26. Februar 2012, 03:32:58 schrieb Philip Webb: In Gvim I can enter 'e-umlaut' via the keystrokes 'control-k e : ', ie ë . Kate has a Vi mode, which seems to reproduce Vim fairly well, but there's no sign of 'control-k' or any substitute. KDE System Settings has a menu for setting a compose key, but tests with 'left-control' 'pause' in Konsole Kate did nothing. I tried in Kate with Luxi Mono Courier(IBM), Konsole with LM Fixed(Misc). I don't have the KDE desktop pkgs installed, but use many apps it shouldn't make a difference. Does anyone know if how accented characters cb entered in KDE apps ? google is your friend. http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey Yes, I saw that, but ... Typing Macrons, Umlauts, Accents, ... The compose key will be now whatever you have configured it to be, e. g. right logo. ... as I said above, it doesn't work. Thanks for trying, but please read the full msg before doing so (smile). On a German keyboard layout I type AltGr+ü and then the letter: äöüïëÿ Cheers, Jörg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
Grant writes: I get Unrecognized command from savedefault in grub: grub savedefault --default=1 --once Error 27: Unrecognized command Strange. Maybe this is something inofficial, and not every Gurb understands this? The documentation does not mention the --default option I think. I re-emerged grub with /boot mounted and ran grub-install but I get the same error. Does anyone know how to fix this? I'm on grub-0.97-r10. Have a look at 'info grub', 'Booting' - 'Making your system robust', especially section 4.3.2 'Booting fallback systems'. That's what I used in order to test new kernels remotely. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
Willie WY Wong wrote: On Thursday night, I emerged some packages SNIP Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Cheers, W This may not be it but worth taking a look at. /etc/rc.conf From that file: # rc_hotplug is a list of services that we allow to be hotplugged. # By default we do not allow hotplugging. # A hotplugged service is one started by a dynamic dev manager when a matching # hardware device is found. # This service is intrinsically included in the boot runlevel. # To disable services, prefix with a ! # Example - rc_hotplug=net.wlan !net.* # This allows net.wlan and any service not matching net.* to be plugged. # Example - rc_hotplug=* # This allows all services to be hotplugged #rc_hotplug=* I think that should be off by default but maybe try disabling them all manually just in case. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
[gentoo-user] Re: Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On 02/26/2012 01:35 AM, Willie WY Wong wrote:
Gee-Mi-Ni init.d # grep dhcpcd /etc/init.d/*
/etc/init.d/dhcpcd:command=/sbin/dhcpcd
/etc/init.d/dhcpcd:pidfile=/var/run/dhcpcd.pid
/etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant: before dns dhcpcd net
uh, apparently none of them?
The net.lo script does include this test:
# Ensure that loopback has the correct address
if [ ${IFACE} = lo -o ${IFACE} = lo0 ]; then
if [ $1 != null ]; then
config_0=127.0.0.1/8
config_index=1
fi
else
if [ -z $1 ]; then
ewarn No configuration specified; defaulting to DHCP
config_0=dhcp
config_index=1
fi
fi
The value of ${IFACE} is set (I think) by looking at the .lo
or .eth0 file extension of net.lo or net.eth0 (or whatever
symlink you created when you installed gentoo). If you don't
have a net.whatever symlink to net.lo, then openrc defaults to
dhcp.
Do you maybe not have a net.foo symlink, or an old obsolete one
in /etc/init.d ?
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm the resident old fart around here I beg your pardon. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 07:32:43AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked: This may not be it but worth taking a look at. /etc/rc.conf From that file: # rc_hotplug is a list of services that we allow to be hotplugged. # By default we do not allow hotplugging. # A hotplugged service is one started by a dynamic dev manager when a matching # hardware device is found. # This service is intrinsically included in the boot runlevel. # To disable services, prefix with a ! # Example - rc_hotplug=net.wlan !net.* # This allows net.wlan and any service not matching net.* to be plugged. # Example - rc_hotplug=* # This allows all services to be hotplugged #rc_hotplug=* I think that should be off by default but maybe try disabling them all manually just in case. Hotplug has never been turned on in my case. I've always had rc_hotplug=!net.* W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 05:35:30AM -0800, Penguin Lover walt squawked:
The value of ${IFACE} is set (I think) by looking at the .lo
or .eth0 file extension of net.lo or net.eth0 (or whatever
symlink you created when you installed gentoo). If you don't
have a net.whatever symlink to net.lo, then openrc defaults to
dhcp.
Gee-Mi-Ni init.d # ls -l net*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Nov 7 2009 net.eth0 - net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16852 Feb 26 10:06 net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2211 Feb 26 10:06 netmount
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jan 22 2010 net.wlan0 - net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6954 Feb 26 10:06 network
I think I have the correct ones.
W
--
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:35:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Willie WY Wong squawked: Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Apparently the culprit is /etc/init.d/netmount I am not sure how it got into the default run level, since I don't use any network file systems on my netbook. Cheers, W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
I get Unrecognized command from savedefault in grub: grub savedefault --default=1 --once Error 27: Unrecognized command Strange. Maybe this is something inofficial, and not every Gurb understands this? The documentation does not mention the --default option I think. I re-emerged grub with /boot mounted and ran grub-install but I get the same error. Does anyone know how to fix this? I'm on grub-0.97-r10. Have a look at 'info grub', 'Booting' - 'Making your system robust', especially section 4.3.2 'Booting fallback systems'. That's what I used in order to test new kernels remotely. Wonko I like that better. Where do you execute 'grub-set-default 0'? I did notice this: In some newer versions of GNU/Linux, there is no /sbin/grub-set-default (eg. Debian 3.1, Fedora Core 4,5). While some distributions like Gentoo still has /sbin/grub-set-default http://sidvind.com/wiki/GRUB:_Boot_another_OS_once#Method_1_.28preferred.29 BTW, is there a way to tell which grub entry I'm booted into, or am I best off examining the contents of /proc/config.gz? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sunday, February 26, 2012 07:36 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm the resident old fart around here I beg your pardon. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Heh, if I can find someone close by that has a fast connection, I bet *I'll* be the new resident old fart at 50 years of age just this last Monday the 20th. I figure if I can find a fast connection, I can get what I need downloaded and burned onto a dvd. I'll just 'update' things one or two at a time so that it's easy on my dial-up connection. If I really, really need to update something like a kernel or something else that's huge for a dial-up download, I'll just find that fast connection again and put it on a cd or dvd (I *can) 'update' (emerge? still trying to get all the nomenclature down) from a cd or dvd, right?) and do it that way. A question about the stage 3 tarball thing...if I download that instead of the iso (which is for 486 and up, whereas the tarball is 686 and better), how do I burn it (the tarball) as an iso onto a dvd so I can install Gentoo? Also, Distrowatch.com says that Gentoo has the latest in 'packages' as Feb 26, yet when I downloaded the tarball of CONTENTS, it shows mostly things (gcc, glibc, kernel, etc) that are used in the January release of Gentoo 12.0, not what Distrowatch has in their list of up-to-date lib's and such for the 26th of Feb. Where do I find the 'package' that Distrowatch seems to have found with almost everything being the latest and greatest? -- Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside on your Harley at 130 mph, thoroughly used and worn out, loudly proclaiming, Hot damn! WHAT A FRIGGIN' RIDE!
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?
On Friday 24 Feb 2012 11:46:33 Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 12:47:00 James Broadhead wrote: On 23 February 2012 12:39, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I have just tried to send a file from my phone to my laptop running KDE 4.8.0 and it fails; the two devices never bind. When I set up the laptop it was running KDE 4.6.3 and bluetooth worked fine. The BlueZ libraries have changed substantially since, I think. Using 'hcitool inq' works fine, it's the KDE dialogs which sit there searching endlessly. Any recommended settings for /etc/bluetooth/*? Doc is a bit hard to come by. TIA -Robin Not exactly on-topic, but I recently got my bluetooth headset working without any major hassle using net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth by - Building the appropriate communications-types modules - Starting the bluetooth init script - Running bluetooth-wizard to pair and bluetooth-applet to connect/disconnect I'm using net-wireless/bluedevil-1.2.2 and I do not have any such problems. However, I'm not using the whole KDE desktop and I'm still on KDEPIM 4.4.11.1 I had a go at browsing the filesystem on my Blackberry. It won't work. obexftp fails in each case to list the contents on the BB internal flash. When looking under Known Devices on the Bluedevil applet on the desktop, it says: No supported services found which make me think that the way this BB is set up, it won't share its fs with a PC. if your run: # sdptool browse your_device_MAC_address it will list a number of services that the device supports after you connect it to your PC. Although I could not browse any files using Dophin or obexftp, I was able to send and receive files using obex push. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: accented characters in KDE apps
120226 Jörg Schaible wrote: Philip Webb wrote: In Gvim I can enter 'e-umlaut' via the keystrokes 'control-k e : ', ie ë . Kate has a Vi mode, which seems to reproduce Vim fairly well, but there's no sign of 'control-k' or any substitute. KDE System Settings has a menu for setting a compose key, but tests with 'left-control' 'pause' in Konsole Kate did nothing. I tried in Kate with Luxi Mono Courier(IBM), Konsole with LM Fixed(Misc). I don't have the KDE desktop pkgs installed, but use many apps it shouldn't make a difference. Does anyone know if how accented characters cb entered in KDE apps ? On a German keyboard layout I type AltGr+ü and then the letter: äöüïëÿ I don't want to change keyboard layouts, which isn't needed with Gvim. I booted into Mandriva 10 Spring, which I have on another partition but don't use except for testing stuff occasionally, got it to work there : SystemSettings - C/R + Language - KeyboardLayout - Advanced - Compose key position - Left Ctl ; Kwrite complies : 'Ctl c ,' - 'ç' . KDE System Settings in my usual Gentoo system doesn't show C/R+Language, but offers the Compose-key options under Hardware - Keyboard - Advanced. I don't have the whole of KDE installed, only what I need to support the apps I use, so perhaps there's a pkg I need to add. Does anyone have further suggestions ? Thanks for those offered so far. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012, 21:14:21 schrieb Grant:
[snip]
I'm amazed but disconnecting and reconnecting the IDE and power cable
fixed it. Which is your favorite tool for testing a HD's integrity
with and without S.M.A.R.T. support?
[I] gnome-extra/gsmartcontrol [1]
Available versions: (~)0.8.6 {debug}
Installed versions: 0.8.6(16:47:27 13/02/12)(-debug)
Homepage:http://gsmartcontrol.berlios.de/
Description: Graphical user interface for smartctl
[1] sunrise /var/lib/layman/sunrise
Is a great (and sorely needed) frontend for smartmontools - it even
colours lines in red when they indicate imminent failure!
That sounds good but I shy away from GUI tools. How does everyone go
about using smartctl for monitoring? Maybe just 'smartctl -a
/dev/sda' emailed daily?
- Grant
cat /etc/smartd.conf
/dev/sdb -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
/dev/sdc -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
/dev/sdd -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
/dev/sde -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
/dev/sdf -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
/dev/sdg -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
/dev/sdh -m root@localhost -d ata -a -o on -S on -s (S/../../4/17|L/../(01|
15)/./20)
postfix dumps all those mails into my mailbox
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?
On Sunday 26 Feb 2012, Mick wrote: On Friday 24 Feb 2012 11:46:33 Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 12:47:00 James Broadhead wrote: On 23 February 2012 12:39, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I have just tried to send a file from my phone to my laptop running KDE 4.8.0 and it fails; the two devices never bind. When I set up the laptop it was running KDE 4.6.3 and bluetooth worked fine. The BlueZ libraries have changed substantially since, I think. Using 'hcitool inq' works fine, it's the KDE dialogs which sit there searching endlessly. Any recommended settings for /etc/bluetooth/*? Doc is a bit hard to come by. TIA -Robin Not exactly on-topic, but I recently got my bluetooth headset working without any major hassle using net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth by - Building the appropriate communications-types modules - Starting the bluetooth init script - Running bluetooth-wizard to pair and bluetooth-applet to connect/disconnect I'm using net-wireless/bluedevil-1.2.2 and I do not have any such problems. However, I'm not using the whole KDE desktop and I'm still on KDEPIM 4.4.11.1 I had a go at browsing the filesystem on my Blackberry. It won't work. obexftp fails in each case to list the contents on the BB internal flash. When looking under Known Devices on the Bluedevil applet on the desktop, it says: No supported services found which make me think that the way this BB is set up, it won't share its fs with a PC. if your run: # sdptool browse your_device_MAC_address it will list a number of services that the device supports after you connect it to your PC. Although I could not browse any files using Dophin or obexftp, I was able to send and receive files using obex push. I tried the browse but got Protocol not supported. :( -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
Grant writes: Have a look at 'info grub', 'Booting' - 'Making your system robust', especially section 4.3.2 'Booting fallback systems'. That's what I used in order to test new kernels remotely. Wonko I like that better. Where do you execute 'grub-set-default 0'? I had it in /etc/init.d/local.start back when I used these features. Nowadays with openrc I would put this line in /etc/local.d/grub-default.start. I had some safety checks included, like testing if networking and sshd was running, so this box would be accessible from remote. But this is some years ago now, currently I do not administrate such remote servers and so I have not used this mechanism for a while. BTW, is there a way to tell which grub entry I'm booted into, or am I best off examining the contents of /proc/config.gz? The first line in /boot/grub/default has the number of the default entry. grub-set-default modifies this file, as does the GRUB savedefault command. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
On Sun 26 Feb 2012 08:05:23 PM IST, Grant wrote: I get Unrecognized command from savedefault in grub: grub savedefault --default=1 --once Error 27: Unrecognized command Strange. Maybe this is something inofficial, and not every Gurb understands this? The documentation does not mention the --default option I think. I re-emerged grub with /boot mounted and ran grub-install but I get the same error. Does anyone know how to fix this? I'm on grub-0.97-r10. Have a look at 'info grub', 'Booting' - 'Making your system robust', especially section 4.3.2 'Booting fallback systems'. That's what I used in order to test new kernels remotely. Wonko I like that better. Where do you execute 'grub-set-default 0'? I did notice this: In some newer versions of GNU/Linux, there is no /sbin/grub-set-default (eg. Debian 3.1, Fedora Core 4,5). While some distributions like Gentoo still has /sbin/grub-set-default http://sidvind.com/wiki/GRUB:_Boot_another_OS_once#Method_1_.28preferred.29 BTW, is there a way to tell which grub entry I'm booted into, or am I best off examining the contents of /proc/config.gz? - Grant uname -r If the kernel version is same, add a version string in menuconfig. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:19:54 +0100 Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:35:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Willie WY Wong squawked: Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Apparently the culprit is /etc/init.d/netmount I am not sure how it got into the default run level, since I don't use any network file systems on my netbook. I believe the problem is much deeper than that and while your observations are valid, you don't have a root cause yet. You just have a happy symptom that works with your specific configuration. Here's what I've found after much up down-grading and rebooting: First, I've had netmount in the default runlevel for ages and it's worked for ages even though it does nothing. Second, openrc has been launching dhcpcd -q at boot time for ages and this has never interfered with wicd which comes along later. openrc-0.8.* always works with any kernel version openrc-0.9* work with kernel-3.2.5 openrc-0.9* does not work with kernel-3.2.6, giving these errors: Feb 26 17:16:53 khamul dhcpcd[2661]: wlan0: leased 172.20.0.41 for 43200 seconds Feb 26 17:16:53 khamul avahi-daemon[2479]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 172.20.0.41. Feb 26 17:16:53 khamul avahi-daemon[2479]: New relevant interface wlan0.IPv4 for mDNS. Feb 26 17:16:53 khamul avahi-daemon[2479]: Registering new address record for 172.20.0.41 on wlan0.IPv4. Feb 26 17:16:54 khamul dhcpcd[2661]: eth0: sending IPv6 Router Solicitation Feb 26 17:16:54 khamul dhcpcd[2661]: eth0: sendmsg: Network is unreachable Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul dhcpcd[4388]: sending commands to master dhcpcd process Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul dhcpcd[2661]: control command: /sbin/dhcpcd -k wlan0 Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul dhcpcd[2661]: wlan0: releasing lease of 172.20.0.41 Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul avahi-daemon[2479]: Withdrawing address record for 172.20.0.41 on wlan0. Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul avahi-daemon[2479]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 172.20.0.41. Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul avahi-daemon[2479]: Interface wlan0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul dhcpcd[2661]: wlan0: open_udp_socket: Cannot assign requested address Feb 26 17:16:55 khamul kernel: [ 58.240866] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:04:ed:45:65:df by local choice (reason=3) That looks to me like avahi is all confused and tripping over what openrc wicd do properly. I'd say the root cause is a change in kernel-3.2.6 that was not tested against. So, what's the next debugging step? -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:36:49 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm the resident old fart around here I beg your pardon. ;-) Yes Dale, *I* am the resident old fart. *You* are the hal breaker and finder/destroyer of stupid software. We discussed all this and agreed months ago, or did you forget already? :-) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:41:41 -0600 John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, February 26, 2012 07:36 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm the resident old fart around here I beg your pardon. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Heh, if I can find someone close by that has a fast connection, I bet *I'll* be the new resident old fart at 50 years of age just this last Monday the 20th. I figure if I can find a fast connection, I can get what I need downloaded and burned onto a dvd. I'll just 'update' things one or two at a time so that it's easy on my dial-up connection. If I really, really need to update something like a kernel or something else that's huge for a dial-up download, I'll just find that fast connection again and put it on a cd or dvd (I *can) 'update' (emerge? still trying to get all the nomenclature down) from a cd or dvd, right?) and do it that way. A question about the stage 3 tarball thing...if I download that instead of the iso (which is for 486 and up, whereas the tarball is 686 and better), how do I burn it (the tarball) as an iso onto a dvd so I can install Gentoo? Also, Distrowatch.com says that Gentoo has the latest in 'packages' as Feb 26, yet when I downloaded the tarball of CONTENTS, it shows mostly things (gcc, glibc, kernel, etc) that are used in the January release of Gentoo 12.0, not what Distrowatch has in their list of up-to-date lib's and such for the 26th of Feb. Where do I find the 'package' that Distrowatch seems to have found with almost everything being the latest and greatest? gentoo is vastly different from almost every other distro out there. It's a funny quirk of computers that you have to have a working OS already running on the computer to install an OS. There's nothing magic about an install, basically some software asks you a bunch of questions, then copies a bunch of files to disk and writes appropriate config files. When you reboot, the software that went on the disk just happens to be correct so that the whole system will reboot and start properly. So how do you get this first running OS on the go so that it can do the install? Well, it's on the install CD or flash drive. SuSE gives you a customized SuSE on the CD that does things appropriately to install SuSE. This is where Gentoo is different. You don't have to use Gentoo to install Gentoo, in fact you can use anything as long as it can connect to the internet and write to the disk. There is a Gentoo install CD available (updated infrequently) but I usually use Ubuntu (I just happen to have a handy Ubuntu memory stick). DistroWatch always quotes today as the most up to date version, because there's always at least one package updated today. The date of the install CD is whenever it was built (sometimes this gets to be 6 months old). This is why Gentoo does not really have version numbers - the version you have is whatever software you have running right now. Assuming you have a handy Linux LiveCD (any distro) it's better to download the stage3 as these are built daily and of all the available methods, it's the most recent. But beware that you will still need to download almost all the source code all over again with the first update, and this is somewhere around 2G if you use KDE or Gnome. It gets really painful really quick doing all that on dialup. Omit one package from the list and you might not be able to complete a full update. None of this is unusual, the maintainer of Ubuntu and SuSE do all these steps when they build their packages. They just shield you from the hard bits and give you the final product nicely package. Gentoo gives you the tools you need to do all that yourself, the key thing is do it yourself - there is no way to not do it yourself You should chat to Dale and listen closely. He's the guy who was most recently forced to use dialup routinely, he can tell you what it's like. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:33:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Yes Dale, *I* am the resident old fart. I feel a Spartacus moment coming on... -- Neil Bothwick An expert is nothing more than an ordinary person away from home. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: accented characters in KDE apps
Further investigation shows that both in Mandriva in Gentoo the file ~/.kde4/share/config/kxkbrc has a line 'Options=compose:lctrl', so for some reason Kwrite Kate are not recognising that setting. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Re: Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On 02/26/2012 06:17 AM, Willie WY Wong wrote:
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 05:35:30AM -0800, Penguin Lover walt squawked:
The value of ${IFACE} is set (I think) by looking at the .lo
or .eth0 file extension of net.lo or net.eth0 (or whatever
symlink you created when you installed gentoo). If you don't
have a net.whatever symlink to net.lo, then openrc defaults to
dhcp.
Gee-Mi-Ni init.d # ls -l net*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Nov 7 2009 net.eth0 - net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16852 Feb 26 10:06 net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2211 Feb 26 10:06 netmount
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jan 22 2010 net.wlan0 - net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6954 Feb 26 10:06 network
I think I have the correct ones.
Yes, that looks okay. My other thought is about the contents of
/etc/conf.d/net. IIRC there was some confusion about the proper
syntax of that file concerning the use of parentheses and quote
marks, and I believe the syntax did change at least once.
You could check your current syntax against the most recently
installed /usr/share/doc/openrc*/net.example.bz2.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sunday 26 February 2012 15.19:54 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:35:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Willie WY Wong squawked: Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Apparently the culprit is /etc/init.d/netmount I am not sure how it got into the default run level, since I don't use any network file systems on my netbook. And on my laptop the culprit seems to be /etc/init.d/sshd -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sunday 26 February 2012 17.52:13 Dan Johansson wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2012 15.19:54 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:35:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Willie WY Wong squawked: Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Apparently the culprit is /etc/init.d/netmount I am not sure how it got into the default run level, since I don't use any network file systems on my netbook. And on my laptop the culprit seems to be /etc/init.d/sshd At the moment I have solved it with putting rc_dhcpcd_provide=!net in /etc/rc.conf which prevents dhcpcd to start when sshd is started. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd will not connect to wireless network
On Sunday 26 February 2012 13.43:13 Dan Johansson wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2012 10.52:58 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:34:01AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:19:56 +0100 Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: After running an update yesterday (about 50 packages) on my ~x86 laptop, wicd stopped working, and no wicd was not updated neither was any other network related packages. Today after a reboot my wireless network refused to start from wicd, starting it manually works. This is a part of the wicd.log: I'm having similar issues with an Intel N6300 since a reboot. In my case it fails with this: [ 76.232020] wlan0: deauthenticating from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx by local choice (reason=3) Which means something deauthed the connection in the meantime. This happens with kernel 3.2.6, but rebooting into 3.2.5 works just fine. You guys are almost certainly running into the same problem as the one I mentioned in the thread I just started. Try `pkill dhcpcd` and associate again. Unfortunately I couldn't figure out why all of a sudden dhcpcd decides to start on boot. Yes, that was it, killing the dhcpcd made it possible to bring the interface up and associate with the AP. As openrc was one of the packages upgraded yesterday (0.9.8.4 - 0.9.9.1) I assume (guess) that is why dhcpcd gets started at boot. Now I just have to figure out a way to stop this from happening. The problems seems to be that dhcpcd was started automatically as soon as a service needed the network - in my case dhcpcd was started due to /etc/init.d/sshd. At the moment I have solved it with putting rc_dhcpcd_provide=!net in /etc/rc.conf which prevents dhcpcd to start when sshd is started and wicd can now do it's magic. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sunday, February 26, 2012 09:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: snip Assuming you have a handy Linux LiveCD (any distro) it's better to download the stage3 as these are built daily and of all the available methods, it's the most recent. But beware that you will still need to download almost all the source code all over again with the first update, and this is somewhere around 2G if you use KDE or Gnome. Aha! So the stage 3 tarball's I'm seeing at http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/x86/autobuilds/current-stage3/ won't be the same as what the 12.0 DVD will have, correct? The stage tarballs are just the barest minimum stuff, with only a few window managers and no DE's, correct? So, what I basically was right about at first, the only *real* problem I'll have with trying to run a Gentoo system is my dial-up (presuming I can get along just fine with command line stuff and whatever). Still...if I absolutely *must* do an update of some kind of huge MB download thing, can I not just go to the gentoo sources webpage, download whatever it was I needed (being on someone's fast pipe of course), put that on a CD or DVD, take it back home and have the update app install it from said CD or DVD? If this is possible, then I just might have this thing licked! -- There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. -Theodore Roosevelt, 1915
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On 26 February 2012 17:10, John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, February 26, 2012 09:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: snip Assuming you have a handy Linux LiveCD (any distro) it's better to download the stage3 as these are built daily and of all the available methods, it's the most recent. But beware that you will still need to download almost all the source code all over again with the first update, and this is somewhere around 2G if you use KDE or Gnome. Aha! So the stage 3 tarball's I'm seeing at http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/x86/autobuilds/current-stage3/ won't be the same as what the 12.0 DVD will have, correct? The stage tarballs are just the barest minimum stuff, with only a few window managers and no DE's, correct? So, what I basically was right about at first, the only *real* problem I'll have with trying to run a Gentoo system is my dial-up (presuming I can get along just fine with command line stuff and whatever). Still...if I absolutely *must* do an update of some kind of huge MB download thing, can I not just go to the gentoo sources webpage, download whatever it was I needed (being on someone's fast pipe of course), put that on a CD or DVD, take it back home and have the update app install it from said CD or DVD? If this is possible, then I just might have this thing licked! To do an install offline , you will need: - An installation environment (any LiveCD at all, or another linux/freebsd(?) install on the same machine) - A stage3 to unpack (this is the base of your install) - A portage snapshot (today's list of packages which are installable and scripts to install them). Once you have the stage and snapshot unpacked, you will hit a point where you need the source of some packages to continue (grub and a kernel, as a bare minimum). At this point, the handbook will tell you to emerge foo. If instead you run emerge -fp foo get-these.txt, you will get a list of links to all the files that you will need to download to continue. Take this to the nearest internet, and put the files in /usr/portage/distfiles, and compile away!
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:10:50 -0600 John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, February 26, 2012 09:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: snip Assuming you have a handy Linux LiveCD (any distro) it's better to download the stage3 as these are built daily and of all the available methods, it's the most recent. But beware that you will still need to download almost all the source code all over again with the first update, and this is somewhere around 2G if you use KDE or Gnome. Aha! So the stage 3 tarball's I'm seeing at http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/x86/autobuilds/current-stage3/ won't be the same as what the 12.0 DVD will have, correct? The stage tarballs are just the barest minimum stuff, with only a few window managers and no DE's, correct? Yes, that's pretty much it. It's not a problem having only the basics in the tarball as with the first major update you will download all the source code for the bits you don't have yet. And those are the same bits that will probably be updated anyway. So, what I basically was right about at first, the only *real* problem I'll have with trying to run a Gentoo system is my dial-up (presuming I can get along just fine with command line stuff and whatever). Still...if I absolutely *must* do an update of some kind of huge MB download thing, can I not just go to the gentoo sources webpage, download whatever it was I needed (being on someone's fast pipe of course), put that on a CD or DVD, take it back home and have the update app install it from said CD or DVD? If this is possible, then I just might have this thing licked! There's some tricks you can use. Portage can display the URLs of code it will want to download, so you can take that list and feed it into a downloader. Like so: emerge -pvuNDf world -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd will not connect to wireless network
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 06:00:46PM +0100, Penguin Lover Dan Johansson squawked: Yes, that was it, killing the dhcpcd made it possible to bring the interface up and associate with the AP. As openrc was one of the packages upgraded yesterday (0.9.8.4 - 0.9.9.1) I assume (guess) that is why dhcpcd gets started at boot. Now I just have to figure out a way to stop this from happening. The problems seems to be that dhcpcd was started automatically as soon as a service needed the network - in my case dhcpcd was started due to /etc/init.d/sshd. At the moment I have solved it with putting rc_dhcpcd_provide=!net in /etc/rc.conf which prevents dhcpcd to start when sshd is started and wicd can now do it's magic. I wonder if it would be advisable to file a bug to have wicd provide net? (Is there any reason why this would be a bad idea?) Cheers, W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 05:31:23PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: Here's what I've found after much up down-grading and rebooting: First, I've had netmount in the default runlevel for ages and it's worked for ages even though it does nothing. Second, openrc has been launching dhcpcd -q at boot time for ages and this has never interfered with wicd which comes along later. openrc-0.8.* always works with any kernel version openrc-0.9* work with kernel-3.2.5 openrc-0.9* does not work with kernel-3.2.6, giving these errors: snipped log- That looks to me like avahi is all confused and tripping over what openrc wicd do properly. I'd say the root cause is a change in kernel-3.2.6 that was not tested against. Alan: after re-reading your post, I have to retract my earlier statement. It seems *your* problem is a separate one from the one that Dan and I are having! I am running on 2.6.37. I just tried to upgrade to 3.2.6 earlier today but ran into some other problems (there seems to be a bug in the linux-3 kernel that breaks WEP for ath9k wireless cards, that and for some reason `shutdown -h now' halts but does not power off; both are known and there are patches, just haven't made it into the tree yet). The problem I was reporting has nothing to do with the kernel (same kernel since last August). Cheers, W Cheers, W -- Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:44 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:10:50 -0600 John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, February 26, 2012 09:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: snip Assuming you have a handy Linux LiveCD (any distro) it's better to download the stage3 as these are built daily and of all the available methods, it's the most recent. But beware that you will still need to download almost all the source code all over again with the first update, and this is somewhere around 2G if you use KDE or Gnome. Aha! So the stage 3 tarball's I'm seeing at http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/x86/autobuilds/current-stage3/ won't be the same as what the 12.0 DVD will have, correct? The stage tarballs are just the barest minimum stuff, with only a few window managers and no DE's, correct? Yes, that's pretty much it. It's not a problem having only the basics in the tarball as with the first major update you will download all the source code for the bits you don't have yet. And those are the same bits that will probably be updated anyway. So, what I basically was right about at first, the only *real* problem I'll have with trying to run a Gentoo system is my dial-up (presuming I can get along just fine with command line stuff and whatever). Still...if I absolutely *must* do an update of some kind of huge MB download thing, can I not just go to the gentoo sources webpage, download whatever it was I needed (being on someone's fast pipe of course), put that on a CD or DVD, take it back home and have the update app install it from said CD or DVD? If this is possible, then I just might have this thing licked! There's some tricks you can use. Portage can display the URLs of code it will want to download, so you can take that list and feed it into a downloader. Like so: emerge -pvuNDf world Okay, great. Thanks to everyone who's been trying to help me out here. Now to work on finding someone with a fast connection and see what kind of damage I can do!
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:36:49 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm the resident old fart around here I beg your pardon. ;-) Yes Dale, *I* am the resident old fart. *You* are the hal breaker and finder/destroyer of stupid software. We discussed all this and agreed months ago, or did you forget already? :-) We did? Really? O_O Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
John wrote: On Sunday, February 26, 2012 07:36 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm the resident old fart around here I beg your pardon. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Heh, if I can find someone close by that has a fast connection, I bet *I'll* be the new resident old fart at 50 years of age just this last Monday the 20th. I figure if I can find a fast connection, I can get what I need downloaded and burned onto a dvd. I'll just 'update' things one or two at a time so that it's easy on my dial-up connection. If I really, really need to update something like a kernel or something else that's huge for a dial-up download, I'll just find that fast connection again and put it on a cd or dvd (I *can) 'update' (emerge? still trying to get all the nomenclature down) from a cd or dvd, right?) and do it that way. A question about the stage 3 tarball thing...if I download that instead of the iso (which is for 486 and up, whereas the tarball is 686 and better), how do I burn it (the tarball) as an iso onto a dvd so I can install Gentoo? Also, Distrowatch.com says that Gentoo has the latest in 'packages' as Feb 26, yet when I downloaded the tarball of CONTENTS, it shows mostly things (gcc, glibc, kernel, etc) that are used in the January release of Gentoo 12.0, not what Distrowatch has in their list of up-to-date lib's and such for the 26th of Feb. Where do I find the 'package' that Distrowatch seems to have found with almost everything being the latest and greatest? In a small nutshell. First, find something Linux to boot and install from. It can be a CD/DVD or a full Linux install of some other distro. It can be a image on a USB stick thingy. You need that first. It needs to have the chroot command. I have yet to see or hear of a Linux ISO that doesn't but just saying. If that is a install on a hard drive, be prepared to have something else to install to. Another drive, separate partitions or whatever you got planned. Second thing, you need a stage3 tarball. Put that on something: DVD, CD, stick thingy to get it back to your machine. Third thing: Get a portage snap shot. That's what tells portage the packages that can be installed, what they need to install first and all sorts of other goodies. Put that on something to get it back to your machine. The same thing #2 is on will be fine. Just separate things into different directories so YOU know where they are. Forth, download the grub source tarball and a kernel tarball at least. Remember the version of the tarball too. You will have to tell emerge the exact version or it will try to download some other version. Most other tarballs can be downloaded over dial-up and not take to long. Even grub can be. The kernel is pretty good size for dial-up. You need those things first to even start. Make sure you can get to the docs on Gentoo's website. You can get that over dial-up since it is text and not much else. You can also get to this mailing list most likely. With that, it should get you to a point where you can boot into Gentoo. Then you can emerge -fvp kde/gnome/fluxbox or whatever to get the list of tarballs. Keep in mind, it will list the sizes of those. The small stuff, let it get those over dial-up if you want. Me, I'd just get the larger stuff that takes a hour or so to get over dial-up and leave the rest to dial-up. You can sort of judge your patience on that one. Keep in mind, you will have to drive off the reservation when it comes to copying the tarball and snap shot over. Instead of copying it from the location the docs say to, you will have to substitute where YOU put it. I will say this, Gentoo over dial-up is a bitter pill but the install and KDE upgrades are the worst parts. When I first started using Gentoo the sources were MUCH smaller. I even considered switching to something else just because it took ages to download something even small. Also, if you use KDE, it is going to be fun. Open Office, LibreOffice, is going to be at least as much fun. By the way, OOo and LOo are what we generally call Open Office and LibreOffice. Shorter. lol Given your situation, I would update about once a month maybe two months. I'd set aside a FULL weekend to do it if you plan to use only dial-up. Also, be ready for down time. KDE has got to where it does not like being used while the upgrades are being installed. I have Fluxbox installed as a back-up to KDE. If you do the same and you can't get the login manager to come up, try this command: startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox and see if that works. Also, by all means learn tab completion. When you are typing in a command, trying to get to a location you can use the tab key to help keep things along. If it beeps once, there are more than one matching commands/location. If it beeps twice, nothing matches. Back up and try again. Tab completion can save you lots of time. It should work during the install
Re: [gentoo-user] Mythtv compilation problems
Jeff Cranmer writes: I'm having trouble compiling mythtv-0.24.1. The build log is attached. Can anyone help me decipher what is going on? mythtv-0.23.1_p27077 compiles OK. Probably the same problem they are talking about here: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2011-October/071414.html The thread also mentions how to fix it (adding #include GL/glu.h to mythrender_opengl.cpp). You can probably do this manually by going to the build directory, editing the file, and starting over with FEATURES=keepwork emereg --resume. It would be nice if you'd file a bug about this at bugs.gentoo.org, so someone can fix this issue. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Midori and Flash
Henson Sturgill writes: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Now I'd also like to use Midori, as a lightweight browser for using Google+. The reason is that when I open Google+ in Firefox, I am also logged in at Google when I using other tabs with Youtube or other Google sites. If there's a way around this, I'd be happy to know about it. But so I just thought, why not use Midori for Google+ only. But it doesn't do Flash. I could swear I downloaded the latest tar.gz from Adobe, created ~/.mozilla/plugins, and threw the libflashplayer.so file in there without any problems. Been it's been a few months since I've had Midori installed. I had read about this somewhere. ~/.mozilla/plugins/ was already existing (I had played with creating my own plugin using Qt), and I made a symlink to /opt/Adobe/flash-player/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so. But no success. I used to get some errors in the terminal when starting midori manually, like these: ** (midori:28396): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:28396): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:28396): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded java version 1.6.0_24 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.1) (Gentoo build 1.6.0_24-b24 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode) *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/nppdf.so: cannot open sharh file or directory *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/nppdf.so: cannot open sharh file or directory *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/nppdf.so: cannot open sharh file or directory *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: failed to initialize plugin-side RPC clien *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/var/portage/tmp/portage/www-plugins/nspluginwrapper-wrapper-1.4.4/src/npw-wrapper.c:3556):invoke_NP_Initialize: assertion failed: (rpc_methpc_connection)) *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/nppdf.so: cannot open sharh file or directory *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/nppdf.so: cannot open sharh file or directory Not depending on the value of MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH I specified. Now all I get is this: wonko@weird ~ $ MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/ midori (midori:16347): GnomeShellBrowserPlugin-DEBUG: plugin loaded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded (midori:16347): GnomeShellBrowserPlugin-DEBUG: plugin loaded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ERROR: Invalid browser function table. Some functionality may be restricted. ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded (midori:16347): GnomeShellBrowserPlugin-DEBUG: plugin loaded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ERROR: Invalid browser function table. Some functionality may be restricted. ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Initialize succeeded ** (midori:16347): DEBUG: NP_Shutdown ERROR: Invalid browser function table. Some functionality may be restricted. java version 1.7.0_03-icedtea OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.1) (Gentoo build 1.7.0_03-icedtea-b147) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 22.0-b10, mixed mode) Well, I have more important stuff to do at the moment, so I will deal with this later. Thanks all four your input, I'll also try using different Firefox profiles, if Midori just doesn't work for me. Wonko
[gentoo-user] local layman repository missing files
Hi there! I haven't been able to emerge sci-libs/dcmtk from the science overlay for a while, due to a missing dcmtk-asneeded.patch in the files directory. In fact, the whole /var/portage/layman/science/files directory was missing. I fixed this by removing and adding the science overlay again: layman -d science layman -a science Any idea why this was necessary? eix-sync said all was up to date, same result when I do a 'git pull' manually there. Just being curious, Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Midori and Flash
Paul Hartman writes: In Firefox you can create multiple profiles. Each profile will have its own set of cookies, bookmarks, history, saved passwords, etc. To open 2 firefox windows with 2 different profiles at once, launch it with: firefox -P -no-remote Thanks Paul, that's what I am doing now. There are firefox add-ons such as cookieswap to maintain separate sets of cookies and sessions that you can toggle, instead of needing to logout and login you just swap cookies then open youtube or whatever... I'll have a look into this when I have some time. Although I tend to never find time once I have found a workaround... Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is dhcpcd starting by itself?
Dan Johansson wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2012 17.52:13 Dan Johansson wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2012 15.19:54 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:35:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Willie WY Wong squawked: Can someone help me figure out how to find the offending initscript that is needlessly calling dhcpcd? Apparently the culprit is /etc/init.d/netmount I am not sure how it got into the default run level, since I don't use any network file systems on my netbook. And on my laptop the culprit seems to be /etc/init.d/sshd At the moment I have solved it with putting rc_dhcpcd_provide=!net in /etc/rc.conf which prevents dhcpcd to start when sshd is started. You should read the thread rfc: only the loopback interface should provide net on -dev. They were discussing the changes in this. Maybe those changes had something to do with what happened here. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird XFS problem
On 02/25/2012 06:05 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 10:34 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan cont...@nileshgr.com mailto:cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: Hi, I'm using XFS on /home and facing a strange issue. When I add acl to the mount options in /etc/fstab, the FS fails to mount during boot with an error in dmesg which says invalid option acl whereas I'm able to mount it using the mount command from the CLI. For now I'm using a script in local.d to remount it with acl, but why is this happening? Also, XFS is compiled right into the kernel, not as a module (I believe, because there's no module xfs in /lib/modules/3.2.6-gentoo. AFAIK, by default XFS is mounted with acl support. Plus, I can't find any acl word in the documentation: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/filesystems/xfs.txt;hb=HEAD CMIIW, I never use XFS before in my life. Rgds, I use XFS a lot. It does indeed not need the acl mount option. Those features are available standard. Regards, Coert
