Re: [gentoo-user] Upcoming Apache 2.2 _> 2.4 upgrade

[Dan Johansson]

On 07.02.2016 00:13, Sam Jorna wrote:
> On 07/02/16 08:17, Dan Johansson wrote:
>> According to the news item from 2016-01-27 Apache 2.4 is soon about
>> to be "stabilized". In portage we have to versions, 2.4.16 &
>> 2.4.18, of Apache 2.4 available. Can someone say which one of those
>> two that will be "stabilized"? Reason for my question is quite
>> simple: I want to unmask that version on my development server to
>> do some tests.
> 
> In addition to what mjo said, you can also follow bug 468302 [0] to
> keep up to date with how the stabilization is going.
> 
> 0: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468302

OK, thanks for the Feedback. I'll go ahead and upgrade to 2.4.18 on my
dev box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Qt-creator, libQtcSsh and Botan - angst.....

[Matti Nykyri]

> On 07 Feb 2016, at 08:48, Andrew Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>Has anyone managed to build the latest, V3.6, of Qt-creator? I'm
> attempting to do so and am getting a problem related to libQtcSsh.so and
> something called Botan. Reeading in more depth in the error, it appears
> that it can't find basic_string, for example:
> 
> *
> 
> /var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qt-creator-3.6.0/work/qt-creator-opensource-src-3.6.0/lib64/qtcreator/libQtcSsh.so:
> undefined reference to
> `Botan::User_Interface::User_Interface(std::__cxx11::basic_string std::char_traits, std::allocator > const&)

Well this is a linker error. This means that you are linking without -lbotan 
flag or the installed version of libbotan.so is incompatible with 
qt-creator-3.6.0

You can fix this by compiling qt-creator without out botan or upgrading 
dev-libs/botan to a version required by qt-creator.

If you have the correct version of botan installed then it might be that the 
linker is unable to find libbotan.so

Based on the error messages it is probably a version mismatch, because there is 
only one kind of undefined reference.

-- 
-Matti

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[wabenbau]

Andrew Lowe  wrote:

> Hi all,
>   Has anyone managed to get rid of strigi, ie it not having to
> be built, yet or is it a case of putting up with it building and then
> finding how to turn it off?
> 
>   Regards,
>   Andrew

It would be no problem to remove it on my system:

emerge -pv --depclean app-misc/strigi

Calculating dependencies... done!
>>> Calculating removal order...

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 app-misc/strigi
selected: 0.7.8-r1 
   protected: none 
 omitted: none 

All selected packages: =app-misc/strigi-0.7.8-r1

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

Packages installed:   1827
Packages in world:816
Packages in system:   46
Required packages:1826
Number to remove: 1


--
Regards
wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't know what portage wants here

[Stroller]

> On Sat, 6 February 2016, at 10:17 pm, Nikos Chantziaras  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone decipher this one? As far as portage errors go, this is the most 
> nonsensical one I've seen in a long time (before you ask, boost and 
> boost-build are not masked anywhere):
> 
> 
> ===
> emerge -auDN --with-bdeps=y @world
> [...]
> !!! The following update has been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies:
> 
> dev-libs/boost:0
> 
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=dev-util/boost-build-1.58*" have been 
> masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
> - dev-util/boost-build-1.58.0::gentoo (masked by: )
> 
> (dependency required by "dev-libs/boost-1.58.0-r1::gentoo" [ebuild])
> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
> ===
> 
> 
> I've also tried --backtrack=20 (then 30, the 40, then 50), with the same 
> result.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554838

It's not clear to me if `emerge -1 dev-util/boost-build` or `emerge -1 
=dev-util/boost-build-1.58.0` will work. IMO you should try them first.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Francisco Ares]

Em 06/02/2016 16:09,  escreveu:
>
> Hi,
>
> I got a interesting problem:
>
> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
>
> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> are playing fine...but without any sound.
>
> I have no clue, what happens here.
>
> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> thank you very much in advance!
>
> Best regards,
> Meino
>
>

I use Tor and Privoxy, so regular browsers work just fine after setting up
their proxy settings, of course.

Good luck,
Francisco

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Willie Matthews]

On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I got a interesting problem:
> 
> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> 
> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> are playing fine...but without any sound.
> 
> I have no clue, what happens here.
> 
> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> thank you very much in advance!
> 
> Best regards,
> Meino
> 
> 
> 

It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.

For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Name=Chrome with Tor
Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
--proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
Icon=google-chrome-unstable
Path=
Terminal=false
StartupNotify=false

I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
will have the same results.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.willi...@gmail.com



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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Pavel Volkov]

On суббота, 6 февраля 2016 г. 21:08:08 MSK, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
are playing fine...but without any sound.

I have no clue, what happens here.

Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
thank you very much in advance!


With recent Tor Browser (5.5.1) I can't even play videos (on Youtube).
I remember they played fine before, though.

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Alan McKinnon]

On 07/02/2016 20:35, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 08 Feb 2016 01:57:52 Andrew Lowe wrote:
>> On 02/08/16 01:38, Mick wrote:
> 
>>> But you should be able to stop it from indexing your files.  If you go to
>>> systemsettings/Desktop Search you can disable it.
>>
>>  That's what I've come to the conclusion I'm going to need to do. This
>> "semantic desktop", for me, is a pile of rubbish. I don't need it and
>> don't want it, but the people at KDE apparently know better my needs
>> than I do so they have embedded this stuff so deep you can't untangle
>> it. It's just more gumpf that gets installed, for no other reason than a
>> developers ego trip.
>>
>>  Thanks for the comments,
>>  Andrew
> 
> I think it was started by sponsorship via an EU project, back in the 00s, 
> when 
> Linux was seen as an alternative contender to the US MSWindows desktop 
> monopoly.  To break into the corporate world the concept of a semantic 
> desktop 
> with a database back end was seen as key requirement.  I don't know if they 
> were thinking of a corporate/federated database at the time, to share address 
> books and client info, but the concept was not managed carefully through a 
> staged release program.  They dumped their half-baked semantic desktop and 
> KDEPIM nightmare onto unsuspecting users, who started losing their emails and 
> address books.  This I recall was limited to one version of KDEPIM only, but 
> the credibility of the whole project was lost at that point.  Thankfully KDE 
> has improved since.  :-)
> 

and I was the dumb sucker on gentoo-user who did lose emails and address
books

But I think you are conflating strigi, akonadi and nepomuk a little bit.

strigi always worked pretty good but it was a touch slow in early
versions. That was sorted real quick with the usual code optimization
and check-what-it-really-does developement cycle

nepomuk looked good on paper but was horribly complicated and other dev
had trouble with it. All of that is now mostly gone with Baloo (it's
really a version 3 situation)

akonadi was just a mess from the start. Another good idea on paper but I
think the devs completely underestimated what this was going to take to
work, in terms of man hours and cpu cycles. Right now it feels like a
half-cocked solution without a problem to solve


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Qt-creator, libQtcSsh and Botan - angst.....

[Andrew Lowe]

On 02/07/16 17:18, Matti Nykyri wrote:
>> On 07 Feb 2016, at 08:48, Andrew Lowe  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>Has anyone managed to build the latest, V3.6, of Qt-creator? I'm
>> attempting to do so and am getting a problem related to libQtcSsh.so and
>> something called Botan. Reeading in more depth in the error, it appears
>> that it can't find basic_string, for example:
>>
>> *
>>
>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qt-creator-3.6.0/work/qt-creator-opensource-src-3.6.0/lib64/qtcreator/libQtcSsh.so:
>> undefined reference to
>> `Botan::User_Interface::User_Interface(std::__cxx11::basic_string> std::char_traits, std::allocator > const&)
> 
> Well this is a linker error. This means that you are linking without -lbotan 
> flag or the installed version of libbotan.so is incompatible with 
> qt-creator-3.6.0
> 
> You can fix this by compiling qt-creator without out botan or upgrading 
> dev-libs/botan to a version required by qt-creator.
> 
> If you have the correct version of botan installed then it might be that the 
> linker is unable to find libbotan.so
> 
> Based on the error messages it is probably a version mismatch, because there 
> is only one kind of undefined reference.
> 

I read a webpost that talked of qt-creator using it's own version of
botan hence I didn't think it would be a linking error, that it would
have the correct stuff "on board". A viewing of the ebuild shows that it
has a USE_SYSTEM_BOTAN=1 so I reinstalled botan, even though I already
had the latest version installed, and hey presto, it built.

Thanks for the comments,
Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Andrew Lowe]

On 02/07/16 23:44, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
> Andrew Lowe  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>  Has anyone managed to get rid of strigi, ie it not having to
>> be built, yet or is it a case of putting up with it building and then
>> finding how to turn it off?
>>
>>  Regards,
>>  Andrew
> 
> It would be no problem to remove it on my system:
> 
> emerge -pv --depclean app-misc/strigi
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
 Calculating removal order...
> 
 These are the packages that would be unmerged:
> 
>  app-misc/strigi
> selected: 0.7.8-r1 
>protected: none 
>  omitted: none 
> 
> All selected packages: =app-misc/strigi-0.7.8-r1
> 
 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
> 
> Packages installed:   1827
> Packages in world:816
> Packages in system:   46
> Required packages:1826
> Number to remove: 1
> 
> 
> --
> Regards
> wabe
> 
> 
I should have given more info. I'm using a KDE system and it appears to
want to embed it all over the place. Try and remove it and most of kde
wants to uninstall itself :( I guess it's the symantic-desktop drivel again.

Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday 07 February 2016 16:44:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
> It would be no problem to remove it on my system:
> 
> emerge -pv --depclean app-misc/strigi
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> >>> Calculating removal order...
> 
> >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
>  app-misc/strigi
> selected: 0.7.8-r1
>protected: none
>  omitted: none
> 
> All selected packages: =app-misc/strigi-0.7.8-r1

Not here. Both kde-base/kdelibs and kde-base/systemsettings require strigi, 
so I'd say the answer to Andrew's question is: you can't do it on a KDE-4 
system.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Meino . Cramer]

Francisco Ares  [16-02-07 13:44]:
> Em 06/02/2016 16:09,  escreveu:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I got a interesting problem:
> >
> > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> > example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> >
> > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> > are playing fine...but without any sound.
> >
> > I have no clue, what happens here.
> >
> > Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> > thank you very much in advance!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> >
> >
> 
> I use Tor and Privoxy, so regular browsers work just fine after setting up
> their proxy settings, of course.
> 
> Good luck,
> Francisco

Hi Francisco,

great that you have no problems with the setup!
Best!

Beat regards
mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Mick]

On Sunday 07 Feb 2016 16:44:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday 07 February 2016 16:44:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It would be no problem to remove it on my system:
> > 
> > emerge -pv --depclean app-misc/strigi
> > 
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > 
> > >>> Calculating removal order...
> >  
> > >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
> >  app-misc/strigi
> >  
> > selected: 0.7.8-r1
> >
> >protected: none
> >
> >  omitted: none
> > 
> > All selected packages: =app-misc/strigi-0.7.8-r1
> 
> Not here. Both kde-base/kdelibs and kde-base/systemsettings require strigi,
> so I'd say the answer to Andrew's question is: you can't do it on a KDE-4
> system.

But you should be able to stop it from indexing your files.  If you go to 
systemsettings/Desktop Search you can disable it.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Andrew Lowe]

On 02/08/16 01:38, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Feb 2016 16:44:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 February 2016 16:44:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> It would be no problem to remove it on my system:
>>>
>>> emerge -pv --depclean app-misc/strigi
>>>
>>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>
>> Calculating removal order...
>>>  
>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
>>>  app-misc/strigi
>>>  
>>> selected: 0.7.8-r1
>>>
>>>protected: none
>>>
>>>  omitted: none
>>>
>>> All selected packages: =app-misc/strigi-0.7.8-r1
>>
>> Not here. Both kde-base/kdelibs and kde-base/systemsettings require strigi,
>> so I'd say the answer to Andrew's question is: you can't do it on a KDE-4
>> system.
> 
> But you should be able to stop it from indexing your files.  If you go to 
> systemsettings/Desktop Search you can disable it.
> 

That's what I've come to the conclusion I'm going to need to do. This
"semantic desktop", for me, is a pile of rubbish. I don't need it and
don't want it, but the people at KDE apparently know better my needs
than I do so they have embedded this stuff so deep you can't untangle
it. It's just more gumpf that gets installed, for no other reason than a
developers ego trip.

Thanks for the comments,
Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Mick]

On Monday 08 Feb 2016 01:57:52 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 02/08/16 01:38, Mick wrote:

> > But you should be able to stop it from indexing your files.  If you go to
> > systemsettings/Desktop Search you can disable it.
> 
>   That's what I've come to the conclusion I'm going to need to do. This
> "semantic desktop", for me, is a pile of rubbish. I don't need it and
> don't want it, but the people at KDE apparently know better my needs
> than I do so they have embedded this stuff so deep you can't untangle
> it. It's just more gumpf that gets installed, for no other reason than a
> developers ego trip.
> 
>   Thanks for the comments,
>   Andrew

I think it was started by sponsorship via an EU project, back in the 00s, when 
Linux was seen as an alternative contender to the US MSWindows desktop 
monopoly.  To break into the corporate world the concept of a semantic desktop 
with a database back end was seen as key requirement.  I don't know if they 
were thinking of a corporate/federated database at the time, to share address 
books and client info, but the concept was not managed carefully through a 
staged release program.  They dumped their half-baked semantic desktop and 
KDEPIM nightmare onto unsuspecting users, who started losing their emails and 
address books.  This I recall was limited to one version of KDEPIM only, but 
the credibility of the whole project was lost at that point.  Thankfully KDE 
has improved since.  :-)
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Neil Bothwick]

On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 01:57:52 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

>   That's what I've come to the conclusion I'm going to need to
> do. This "semantic desktop", for me, is a pile of rubbish. I don't need
> it and don't want it, but the people at KDE apparently know better my
> needs than I do

Is that why they provided you with an option to turn it off?

Bear in mind that the vast majority of KDE users install from distro
packages, so the idea of picking which facilities are installed is
irrelevant, only the idea of controlling what is used.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

GOTO: (n.) an efficient and general way of controlling a program, much
despised by academics and others whose brains have been ruined by
overexposure to Pascal.


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo and texlive

[karl]

 I can install the complete texlive with:
wget http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet/install-tl-unx.tar.gz
tar zxf install-tl-unx.tar.gz 
cd install-tl-20160204/
./install-tl 

But I don't understand how to do that with the portage version.
If I do a naive

 cd /usr/portage
 emerge -auqDN *te*/*texlive*

I get e.g.:

[blocks B ] dev-texlive/texlive-langdutch ("dev-texlive/texlive-langdutch" 
is blocking dev-texlive/texlive-langeuropean-2014)

If I do

 emerge -auqDN app-text/texlive

I don't get everything in texlive.

///

So should I run the install-tl and add things to
/etc/portage/package.provided (and then what do I add), or run the
emerge thing (and then emerge what) ?

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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[gentoo-user] OT: How do I dive into directory from GNOME-type menu?

[waltdnes]

  This happens when I try to "Save As" from Gnumeric or Gimp or AbiWord.
I select a directory and try to navigate into it by left clicking on the
folder icon.  Nothing happens.  If I madly left-click away on it for 15
or 20 seconds, the folder finally opens up.  There has got to be an
easier way.  Note: I'm running ICEWM, not GNOME.  Gnumeric/Gimp/Abiword
are GNOME apps that I'd happily get rid of, if the alternatives weren't
worse.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of strigi

[Mick]

On Monday 08 Feb 2016 00:43:35 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 07/02/2016 20:35, Mick wrote:
> > On Monday 08 Feb 2016 01:57:52 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> >> On 02/08/16 01:38, Mick wrote:
> >>> But you should be able to stop it from indexing your files.  If you go
> >>> to
> >>> systemsettings/Desktop Search you can disable it.
> >>> 
> >>That's what I've come to the conclusion I'm going to need to do. This
> >> 
> >> "semantic desktop", for me, is a pile of rubbish. I don't need it and
> >> don't want it, but the people at KDE apparently know better my needs
> >> than I do so they have embedded this stuff so deep you can't untangle
> >> it. It's just more gumpf that gets installed, for no other reason than a
> >> developers ego trip.
> >> 
> >>Thanks for the comments,
> >>
> >>Andrew
> > 
> > I think it was started by sponsorship via an EU project, back in the 00s,
> > when Linux was seen as an alternative contender to the US MSWindows
> > desktop monopoly.  To break into the corporate world the concept of a
> > semantic desktop with a database back end was seen as key requirement.  I
> > don't know if they were thinking of a corporate/federated database at the
> > time, to share address books and client info, but the concept was not
> > managed carefully through a staged release program.  They dumped their
> > half-baked semantic desktop and KDEPIM nightmare onto unsuspecting users,
> > who started losing their emails and address books.  This I recall was
> > limited to one version of KDEPIM only, but the credibility of the whole
> > project was lost at that point.  Thankfully KDE has improved since.  :-)
> 
> and I was the dumb sucker on gentoo-user who did lose emails and address
> books

You weren't the only one.  I lost data too, although this was on a test 
machine and I had back ups to recover the situation.


> But I think you are conflating strigi, akonadi and nepomuk a little bit.
> 
> strigi always worked pretty good but it was a touch slow in early
> versions. That was sorted real quick with the usual code optimization
> and check-what-it-really-does developement cycle
> 
> nepomuk looked good on paper but was horribly complicated and other dev
> had trouble with it. All of that is now mostly gone with Baloo (it's
> really a version 3 situation)
> 
> akonadi was just a mess from the start. Another good idea on paper but I
> think the devs completely underestimated what this was going to take to
> work, in terms of man hours and cpu cycles. Right now it feels like a
> half-cocked solution without a problem to solve

Yes, you're right I conflated the unholy trinity of file indexing, semantic 
desktop and PIM, because as metadata concepts they were joined in the mind of 
their creators, who appear to be having wet dreams involving Big Data.  None 
of this was broken in KDE 3 or was in any way missing for some of us.  :p

-- 
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and texlive

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 5:18 PM,   wrote:
>  I can install the complete texlive with:
> wget http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet/install-tl-unx.tar.gz
> tar zxf install-tl-unx.tar.gz
> cd install-tl-20160204/
> ./install-tl
>
> But I don't understand how to do that with the portage version.
> If I do a naive
>
>  cd /usr/portage
>  emerge -auqDN *te*/*texlive*
>
> I get e.g.:
>
> [blocks B ] dev-texlive/texlive-langdutch 
> ("dev-texlive/texlive-langdutch" is blocking 
> dev-texlive/texlive-langeuropean-2014)
>
> If I do
>
>  emerge -auqDN app-text/texlive
>
> I don't get everything in texlive.

It's not supposed to give you everything; only what you need. You set
up your USE flags accordingly.

You can get  most TeXLive related packages (maybe all, I don't know) with:

USE="X cjk context detex dvi2tty epspdf extra games graphics
humanities jadetex luatex metapost music omega pdfannotextractor png
pstricks publishers science tex4ht texi2html truetype xetex xindy xml"
emerge app-text/texlive

or adding the USE flags to /etc/portage/package.use. But you probably
don't need all of that.

Several packages in the TeXLive distribution are merged, splitted or
replaced. That's why you get blocks; perhaps you could try:

emerge -auqDN *te*/*texlive*2014*

But, again, probably you don't want that either, and there will be
other conflicts with -r1 versions. You can also search with ebuilds
with the same slot, and emerge those.

But really, you should set your USE flags and install app-text/texlive.

Regards.
-- 
Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de Carrera Asociado C
Departamento de Matemáticas
Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

[gentoo-user] guile 2.0.0

[karl]

I try to install guile v2, but get strange error message.
Have anyone any idea how to fix this ?

# emerge -auqDN dev-scheme/guile:2
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-scheme/guile-2.0.0 [1.8.8-r1]

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
...
  CC printf-parse.lo
In file included from version-etc.h:23:0,
 from version-etc.c:22:
./stdio.h:477:1: error: 'gets' undeclared here (not in a function)
 _GL_WARN_ON_USE (gets, "gets is a security hole - use fgets instead");
 ^
In file included from version-etc.h:23:0,
 from version-etc-fsf.c:22:
./stdio.h:477:1: error: 'gets' undeclared here (not in a function)
 _GL_WARN_ON_USE (gets, "gets is a security hole - use fgets instead");
 ^
  CC safe-read.lo
Makefile:1486: recipe for target 'version-etc-fsf.lo' failed
...

///

Build.log etc. are available at

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/tmp/gentoo/

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How do I dive into directory from GNOME-type menu?

[wabenbau]

waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

> > Btw: I don't think that Gimp is a Gnome app. It just has some 
> > dependencies that also Gnome has, but it can be installed and used 
> > without Gnome.
> 
>   GTK+, the base of GNOME, first started out as "Gimp ToolKit".
> That's where the acronym "GTK" came from.  So yes, GIMP is a GNOME
> app.

It's a well known fact that GTK is the acronym for Gimp ToolKit. 
But "Gimp ToolKit" != "Gnome ToolKit" ;-)

Gimp was released some years before Gnome. So what makes you think
that it is a "Gnome app"?

--
Regards
wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How do I dive into directory from GNOME-type menu?

[wabenbau]

waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

>   This happens when I try to "Save As" from Gnumeric or Gimp or
> AbiWord. I select a directory and try to navigate into it by left
> clicking on the folder icon.  Nothing happens.  If I madly left-click
> away on it for 15 or 20 seconds, the folder finally opens up.  There
> has got to be an easier way.  Note: I'm running ICEWM, not GNOME.
> Gnumeric/Gimp/Abiword are GNOME apps that I'd happily get rid of, if
> the alternatives weren't worse.

I never had this problem with Gimp or any other gtk2 based program.

I'm using XFCE and have no Gnome installed. Works perfect. Many years
ago I used Gimp with KDE3. Also without problems.

Never used Gnumeric or Abiword. I'm using Libreoffice instead.

I don't know what kind of work you do with Gimp. So I can't give you
a recommendation for a replacement. What I can say is that you will
not find a program for Linux with the same features as Gimp. But 
depending on what you wanna do you will maybe find some other tool
that will meet your demands.

Btw: I don't think that Gimp is a Gnome app. It just has some 
dependencies that also Gnome has, but it can be installed and used 
without Gnome.

--
Regards
wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How do I dive into directory from GNOME-type menu?

[waltdnes]

On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:49:54AM +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote
> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> 
> >   This happens when I try to "Save As" from Gnumeric or Gimp or
> > AbiWord. I select a directory and try to navigate into it by left
> > clicking on the folder icon.  Nothing happens.  If I madly left-click
> > away on it for 15 or 20 seconds, the folder finally opens up.  There
> > has got to be an easier way.  Note: I'm running ICEWM, not GNOME.
> > Gnumeric/Gimp/Abiword are GNOME apps that I'd happily get rid of, if
> > the alternatives weren't worse.
> 
> I never had this problem with Gimp or any other gtk2 based program.
> 
> I'm using XFCE and have no Gnome installed. Works perfect. Many years
> ago I used Gimp with KDE3. Also without problems.
> 
> Never used Gnumeric or Abiword. I'm using Libreoffice instead.
> 
> I don't know what kind of work you do with Gimp. So I can't give you
> a recommendation for a replacement. What I can say is that you will
> not find a program for Linux with the same features as Gimp. But 
> depending on what you wanna do you will maybe find some other tool
> that will meet your demands.
> 
> Btw: I don't think that Gimp is a Gnome app. It just has some 
> dependencies that also Gnome has, but it can be installed and used 
> without Gnome.

  GTK+, the base of GNOME, first started out as "Gimp ToolKit".  That's
where the acronym "GTK" came from.  So yes, GIMP is a GNOME app.  I also
run AbiWord and Gnumeric without full-blown-GNOME.  What's maddening is
that Gnumeric seems to be pulling in more and more GNOME dependancies.
E.g.  it used to be able to build without Goffice libs or Ghostscript or
dbus.  I have some large spreadsheets that kill LibreOffice or
OpenOffice merely importing the spreadsheet, so no option.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Meino . Cramer]

Willie Matthews  [16-02-08 06:04]:
> On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I got a interesting problem:
> > 
> > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> > example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> > 
> > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> > are playing fine...but without any sound.
> > 
> > I have no clue, what happens here.
> > 
> > Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> > thank you very much in advance!
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
> setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
> 
> For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
> me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
> and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0
> Type=Application
> Name=Chrome with Tor
> Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
> Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
> --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
> Icon=google-chrome-unstable
> Path=
> Terminal=false
> StartupNotify=false
> 
> I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
> will have the same results.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Willie Matthews
> matthews.willi...@gmail.com
> 



Hi Willie,

regarding the audio problem: Do you play video via Adobe flash
(or any other Flash) player or do you use HTML5 (or any other
different than Flash) ?


Best regards,
Meino