Re: [gentoo-user] split-usr
Am 12.01.24 um 08:24 schrieb William Kenworthy: Some years back I did the usr-merge and my laptop has continued on more or less ok. Now, I suddenly have a number of packages failing to build with internal collisions as they try and install (for example) a binary into /bin and /usr/bin and collide. "emerge --info" is showing the split-usr flag enabled on my profile (5): [5] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop (stable) [6] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome (stable) [7] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd (stable) [8] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr (stable) [9] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma (stable) [10] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd (stable) [11] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr (stable) [12] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/systemd (stable) [13] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/systemd/merged-usr (stable) So which profile should I use for an XFCE4 desktop. This laptop is openrc and predates the devils spawn (systemd) and I dont use gnome or plasma? BillK Hello William, from the profiles listed you probably go with the plain desktop profile [5] at best. In the 23.0 profiles the /usr merge will be properly addressed, until then you'll need to do the adjustments in your /etc/portage/. To see what is needed, you can check the actual changes which the merged-usr profiles introduce in ::gentoo repository: profiles/features/merged-usr/ From what you're describing I think you you're not properly masking the split-usr USE flag, i.e. check especially use.force and use.mask. Cheers Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to copy gzip data from bytestream?
On 2022-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: That doesn't work. It shows the size of the drive as the "uncompressed" size and 0 as compressed: # gzip -clt foo $ ls -l foo -rw-r--r-- 1 grante users 12923 Feb 22 07:51 foo $ gzip foo $ ls -l foo.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 grante users 6083 Feb 22 07:51 foo.gz $ gzip -clt compresseduncompressed ratio uncompressed_name 6083 12923 53.1% stdout $ echo asdf >> foo.gz $ gzip -clt compresseduncompressed ratio uncompressed_name 6088 174482547 100.0% stdout $ cat foo.gz | gzip -clt compresseduncompressed ratio uncompressed_name -1 -1 0.0% stdout Here's relevent portion of the strace for the 'gzip -clt where it seeks to end-8 and reads what it thinks is the uncompressed length and the CRC: lseek(0, -8, SEEK_END) = 6080 read(0, "2\0\0asdf\n", 8) = 8 write(1, " 6088 17"..., 54) = 54 close(0)= 0 close(1)= 0 exit_group(0) = ? Hi Grant, you're right it doesn't work with the trailing garbage. I wasn't aware it actually seeks even on pipes. By coincidence it seems the next release will even change this behavior: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gzip.git/commit/?id=cf26200380585019e927fe3cf5c0ecb7c8b3ef14 But this actually still doesn't solve your problem, since this only adjust the calculation of the uncompressed size, but the compressed size is still derived from stat.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to copy gzip data from bytestream?
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 8:29 PM Grant Edwards wrote: I've got a "raw" USB flash drive containing a large chunk of gzipped data. By "raw" I mean no partition table, now filesystem. Think of it as a tape (if you're old enough). gzip -tv is quite happy to validate the data and says it's OK, though it says it ignored extra bytes after the end of the "file". The flash drive size is 128GB, but the gzipped data is only maybe 20-30GB. Question: is there a simple way to copy just the 'gzip' data from the drive without copying the extra bytes after the end of the 'gzip' data? The only thing I can think of is: $ zcat /dev/sdX | gzip -c > data.gz But I was trying to figure out a way to do it without uncompressing and recompressing the data. I had hoped that the gzip header would contain a "length" field (so I would know how many bytes to copy using dd), but it does not. Apparently, the only way to find the end of the compressed data is to parse it using the proper algorithm (deflate, in this case). -- Grant Hi Grant, you could use gzip to tell you the compressed size of the file and then use another method to copy just those bytes (dd for example): gzip -clt Should print the compressed size in bytes, although by reading through the entire stream once. -- Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] best rss reader?
Hi, I use liferea for many years now and I'm pretty happy. Doesn't sync to multiple machines though but I read RSS news only on my main laptop. I like how it's very straightforward and locally collects a configurable history of each feed and allows to structure them hierarchically into folders - however, many others offer similar features as well. Best Regards Felix Am 19.04.20 um 23:15 schrieb Caveman Al Toraboran: > hi - could everyone share his rss reading setup? > > i have newsboat, but it got masked. so i'm now > starting to look around again. > > i'm open minded and welling to question > fundamentals in the theory of the optimality of > rss feed readers. > > so if you have some principles/theories about what > makes an rss feed optimum, please share these too, > as it might help me think in a better way in my > quest to find the best rss feed reader. > > summary of questions: > - > 1. what rss feed reader do you use? > 2. what are your theoretical principles that >guided you to choose the rss feed that you >use. > > rgrds, > cm. > >
[gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?
I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first times. Why isn't --noclear set by default? Once I set this and rebooted I saw several things that needed fixing that I didn't have a clue about: 1-error loading /etc/.../hostname (I had copied it from openSUSE installation instead of following installation instruction, and without reading or saving the existing one) 2-depending on hostname working, syslog-ng fails to start 3-missing mount points As a consequence of my ineptitude (and prior to reading http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/FQDN) I did emerge -s hostname, found a package by that name, and chose to emerge it. 30 minutes later, it and 3 dep packages were still compiling, lots lots longer than a kernel compile. :-( -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?
Fernando Rodriguez composed on 2015-08-08 03:43 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first times. Why isn't --noclear set by default? Because it's your choice (and your job) to set it or not. Gentoo is not a distro per se, it' more of a set of tools to help you build your own system. In most cases it provides whatever upstream ships with only patches and fixes as needed. Understood, but there were actually two questions posed. You seem to have answered only the second. Maybe Mick's answer addresses the first. There's also a logging setting on rc.conf that logs the boot process. That's not an automatic tickler, only a log. Clearing tty1's init messages has never ever made sense to me. IOW, they get put there by default, so why not leave them there by default? If upstream's responsible for the default clearing, why did it so choose? The rest of your problems where due to failure to follow the handbook. But did I need to emerge dev-haskell/hostname, or was another hostname function already part of the base, and the haskell one something more or different from built in? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-08 18:02 (UTC+0100): On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup process as possible. WTF? Do they think that stuff is top secret or something? Are they afraid they'll lose their jobs if that info gets out? No, they think that the type of user they are trying to attract is likely to be scared off by all that cryptic text scrolling by. They are probably right. Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has completed successfully. Clear happens so quickly the messages may as well have never been there. I get to see first maybe 4 or 5 if I don't blink at the wrong time. If the boot halts, you can see where and, usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. I'm not sure Fedostemdtering hasn't incorporated noclear for tty1 by default. I dislike Anaconda, so don't install it often, preferring to upgrade with Yum-DNF. I just booted an F23 installation that didn't clear, but I can't say that wasn't because I long ago reconfigured systemd. openSUSE has been my distro of choice since before it was born, as SuSE 8.2. Except for a period of transitioning from sysvinit to systemd[1], noclear has been always its default for *getty on tty1. To actually have all the init messages reach tty1 requires eliminating splash=silent and/or quiet from boot stanza, but that's easy rote during its installer's bootloader configuration step, and easily doable on the fly in Grub GFXboot if overlooked during installation. [1] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721660 -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] boots, but not on first try
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-07 08:56 (UTC+0100): On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:34:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I got ahead of things I suppose on the bootloader instructions, which include no example for Grub 0.97. I did emerge -s grub to identify the package name, then did 'emerge --ask sys-boot/grub-static' without first looking for any instructions, after which I somehow found https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB and its instruction saying 'sys-boot/grub:0'. Having already emerged sys-boot/grub-static without the :0 appendage, I punted instead of looking up meaning of :0, running 'emerge --ask sys-boot/grub-static:0'. That produced 4 beeps prior to emerge exit, which the previous emerge did not do. Next I set Grub up according to its man page: grub find /boot/grub/stage1; grub root (hd0,21); grub setup (hd0,21), then adjusted grub.conf. Didn't we cover this already? You have GRUB installed to boot your other distros, all you need to do is add a stanza for Gentoo to your existing menu.lst. Subject only got touched. That's all I *need* to do. :-) My machines have lots of installations[1], so my master bootloaders only load default kernels (via symlink vmlinuz-cur), installation kernel(s), memtest(s), or chainload. I maintain these manually. Bootloaders on my / partitions are chainloaded to for choosing among multiple installed kernels per distro. Their menus are typically maintained automatically by them rather than me. Why is root=/dev/ram0 real_root= in the sample/prototype? That's for using an initrd, specifically the one produced by genkernel. With no initrd you simply give the actual root device. I can't remember ever using a distro without an initrd before Gentoo, or needing /dev/ram* to boot except for an installation kernel. [1] e.g., this is from the Athlon I installed Gentoo to 50 months ago, and since decided not to use any time soon to get a newer/current Gentoo. Among my machines, it has a slightly lower than average installation count. http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Dfsee/kt400L13.txt -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-06 08:33 (UTC+0100): I can think of no good reason to start with GRUB 0.97it. I have hundreds of installations. Grub is simple and works. I'm not into breaking what works. Goal #2 is to get through that first pass without any of systemd being installed. Then just follow the handbook. It appears you have read neither the handbook nor the recent posts to your threads fully or you would know that systemd is not the default and requires some extra steps to install. I don't remember the handbook saying I was supposed to memorize the whole thing before going back to the beginning and actually trying to install. If it did I would have been done before trying to start. I don't have an eidetic memory. I forget, a lot. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/About and the following several pages made the process look like it shouldn't be very difficult. If they were the only pages I knew or read, maybe it would have been easy, but that's not what happened. Choosing options rather accepting defaults is not pretty easy, at least for me who installed Gentoo only once previously, more than 4 years ago. Gentoo is not supposed to be easy, but if you'd just followed the handbook you would have got what you wanted. Choosing non-defaults breaks the flow, especially when a branch explanation ends before an answer emerges. It probably would have been easy if only the first 3 or 4 Distrowatch columns existed and it had an empty systemd row. I haven't been able to reconcile apparent choices the older columns imply with Gentoo's instructions and mirror content. You understand how Gentoo version selection works. 4 days later and I'm apparently still a long way off from getting it, or whether it even offers any such thing. The swarm of good help I got here early on induced me to keep trying when I was really too exhausted to focus. I need to table it until some time when I'm mentally stronger, and less distracted. Dogged persistence isn't a positive attribute in every context. Sleep gets short changed, and failure snowballs. Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-06 09:10 (UTC+0100): On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:59:44 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: 1-Distrowatch is what lead me to believe I could do something I wished to do. Is it DistroWatch that led you to believe that what you wanted wasn't the default to start with? Yes. e.g. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Base discusses use of mirrorselect, before it directs to start chroot. In the context of a non-Gentoo boot (as offered in the alternative boot instructions) to get to stage 4, how exactly is mirrorselect to be found? Mirrorselect is optional, just pick a mrror based on geographical location. Done. Re progress: I'm at the point of running emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources, but it quits if I say no, and fails emerging sys-devel/bc-1.06.95-r1 (emake AR=$(tc-getAR)) if I say yes. :-( http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/config.txt Which clearly says ccache not found. That implies you have added ccache to FEATURES but not installed the ccache package. I know, I did the same thing last week. An addition was done somewhere around a decade ago, the last time I compiled anything from source. Before chrooting, I copied .bashrc from my template stash into the target /root. It has 'export CC=ccache gcc' in it. I commented it out, rebooted, rechrooted and tried again. bc still failed so I tried emerging ccache. That too failed. Lightbulb. Comment ccache out of chroot host too, restart. emerge ccache succeeded. emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources did too. I still need to better balance persistence with sleep. Bed now. TBC. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
[gentoo-user] boots, but not on first try
If I followed the kernel instructions page correctly, its E8400 Core2Duo wasn't in need of an initrd, and so did not get one. Main deviation from suggestions/defaults was enabling HPFS filesystems. Result was 6001056 byte 4.0.5. openSUSE Tumbleweed 4.0.5 kernel is virtually identical at 6004656, but there is also its 8712096 initrd. I reached the bottom of https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Bootloader and restarted host before clicking on link to next step. Before emerging recommendations in the Tools instructions page I took a timeout to emerge mc. The process involved 22 packages, more than I had any idea mc depended on, but I guess that's at least partly because the installation to that point was so very skeletal. I got ahead of things I suppose on the bootloader instructions, which include no example for Grub 0.97. I did emerge -s grub to identify the package name, then did 'emerge --ask sys-boot/grub-static' without first looking for any instructions, after which I somehow found https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB and its instruction saying 'sys-boot/grub:0'. Having already emerged sys-boot/grub-static without the :0 appendage, I punted instead of looking up meaning of :0, running 'emerge --ask sys-boot/grub-static:0'. That produced 4 beeps prior to emerge exit, which the previous emerge did not do. Next I set Grub up according to its man page: grub find /boot/grub/stage1; grub root (hd0,21); grub setup (hd0,21), then adjusted grub.conf. First boot try I used Gentoo's Grub 0.97 (grub.conf) chainloaded from openSUSE's Grub 0.97-194 (menu.lst). Kernel quickly panic'd. I recognized nothing on the screen to indicate why, though I had seen such things before, among them, not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0). / filesystem is mkfs.ext4 created while running openSUSE kernel 3.12.44. Second try I used menu.lst. Fastest boot I've ever experienced! I then tweaked on grub.conf, but #3 try using it also panic'd (~@1.37), also producing no help I recognized. So now after some experimenting with cmdline arguments I'm on ~#10, headed into https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Finalizing , wondering why a Gentoo sample/prototype-based Grub stanza produces panic. Panicing grub.conf cmdline arguments: root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda22 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 splash=0 video=1024x768@60 3 Working grub.conf cmdline arguments: root=/dev/sda22 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 splash=0 video=1024x768@60 3 Why is root=/dev/ram0 real_root= in the sample/prototype? 4.0.5's /boot/config* FWIW: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/config-4.0.5-gentoo-gx780.txt -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
Jc García composed on 2015-08-05 23:57 (UTC-0600): Felix Miata composed: Are you sure you read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote? Pages like LMGTFY *leads to*, not LMGTFY. I was where that *leads to* yesterday and the day before while progressing generally through wiki.gentoo.org and www.gentoo.org futilely trying to reconcile what's available according to Distrowatch and what's sitting on Gentoo's mirrors. I'll be blunt, basically the intention was to say you should use google for these kind of questions, the options are really obvious if you have read the instructions in the gentoo wiki, and don't go to Distrowatch when trying to find instructions to install gentoo(why would you do that?). 1-Distrowatch is what lead me to believe I could do something I wished to do. 2-Support for the Distrowatch info that produced that belief defies discovery on gentoo.org. IOW, searching doesn't always produce useful results. Even when results are putatively useful, not everyone sees the same words as having unambiguous meaning. If they did, wither mailing lists and other QA forums. e.g. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Base discusses use of mirrorselect, before it directs to start chroot. In the context of a non-Gentoo boot (as offered in the alternative boot instructions) to get to stage 4, how exactly is mirrorselect to be found? Re progress: I'm at the point of running emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources, but it quits if I say no, and fails emerging sys-devel/bc-1.06.95-r1 (emake AR=$(tc-getAR)) if I say yes. :-( http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/config.txt -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
Heiko Baums composed on 2015-08-06 07:19 (UTC+0200): ... It's actually pretty easy. I'm sure plenty have found that to be the case. My problem is inability to connect the dots between the 12.1 column on http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gentoo and the instructions. Goal #1 is to get Grub 0.97 on my first pass following those instructions, and Grub2 never, rather than skipping the bootloader installation step. Goal #2 is to get through that first pass without any of systemd being installed. Choosing options rather accepting defaults is not pretty easy, at least for me who installed Gentoo only once previously, more than 4 years ago. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
Felix Miata composed on 2015-08-05 22:23 (UTC-0400): After reading https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Media#Minimal_installation_CD which does not link to it until after its first mention I spent considerable time on http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/ trying to find one. The only iso files I managed to find are DVD size. When I reach the location that I think should list them, http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/current-iso (aka www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo), I consistently get this instead: http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/images/bucket.jpg Sorry, we cannot find your kernels My brain got entangled again. I did find the minimal install .iso, but not one corresponding to the Gentoo starting point I wanted, something resembling the date of the stage below. :-p I really wanted to install by booting from an installed Linux anyway, but first command after extracting stage and chrooting, I got this: failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error When I attempted to find the stage file to download in the first place, they all seemed to be arch-agnostic, so this is the one I tried (newest pre-Grub2): http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/releases/sh/autobuilds/20120323/sh4-unknown-linux-gnu/stage3-sh4-20120307.tar.bz2 Kernel booted from is Debian Jessie's 3.16.0-4-amd64, on a Core2Duo E8400, so I'm confused why the apparent arch error message. ??? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
[gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
After reading https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Media#Minimal_installation_CD which does not link to it until after its first mention I spent considerable time on http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/ trying to find one. The only iso files I managed to find are DVD size. When I reach the location that I think should list them, http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/current-iso (aka www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo), I consistently get this instead: http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/images/bucket.jpg Sorry, we cannot find your kernels I really wanted to install by booting from an installed Linux anyway, but first command after extracting stage and chrooting, I got this: failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error When I attempted to find the stage file to download in the first place, they all seemed to be arch-agnostic, so this is the one I tried (newest pre-Grub2): http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/releases/sh/autobuilds/20120323/sh4-unknown-linux-gnu/stage3-sh4-20120307.tar.bz2 Kernel booted from is Debian Jessie's 3.16.0-4-amd64, on a Core2Duo E8400, so I'm confused why the apparent arch error message. ??? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
Fernando Rodriguez composed on 2015-08-05 23:46 (UTC-0400): On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:23:03 PM Felix Miata wrote: ... all seemed to be arch-agnostic, so this is the one I tried (newest pre-Grub2): ... What makes you think it's arch agnostic when it says sh4-unknown-linux-gnu? Unknown significance of sh4, absence of string 32, coupled with string unknown, having read that what I want is under autobuild, after having looked all over mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo finding only DVD sized iso files regardless whether base URL included amd64 or *32*, and finding lots of differently aged alternatives for everything *except* the minimal installation CD. http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/amd64/autobuilds/current-install-amd64-minimal/stage3-amd64-20150730.tar.bz2 found I assumed because current would direct me past the post-Grub2 milestone. You want amd64, not sh4. And why would you want a stage from 2012? Answered above (and in other thread I started in recent hours here). http://lmgtfy.com/?q=download+gentoo Pages like that leads to are like Windows and Sourceforge software hosts where after muddling past licenses and assumption what one's looking for has anything to do with the puter used to search and script links autostarting download with web browser instead of wget I just stay away from their download links whenever I can find a direct route going straight to a mirror and see the hosting context, and very important to me, the file's timestamp, so that I can ensure the resulting download timestamp matches the host's timestamp whenever possible. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,
Jc García composed on 2015-08-05 23:02 (UTC-0600): 2015-08-05 22:40 GMT-06:00 Felix Miata ocmposed: Fernando Rodriguez composed on 2015-08-05 23:46 (UTC-0400): http://lmgtfy.com/?q=download+gentoo Pages like that leads to are like Windows and Sourceforge software hosts where after muddling past licenses and assumption what one's looking for has anything to do with the puter used to search and script links autostarting LOL nothing like that, go ahead and find the beauty of lmgtfy. Are you sure you read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote? Pages like LMGTFY *leads to*, not LMGTFY. I was where that *leads to* yesterday and the day before while progressing generally through wiki.gentoo.org and www.gentoo.org futilely trying to reconcile what's available according to Distrowatch and what's sitting on Gentoo's mirrors. Also sourceforge is a pretty decent host for publishing open source software, it offers wikis, mailing list, code repositories, in fact various projects use it to develop open source, you might be talking about softonic. Sourceforge hosts a ton of good stuff, but its presentation is annoying enough that I habitually avoid it except as last resort, typically choosing to avoid needing whatever it hosts rather than suffer mousetype and redirects to slow mirrors. PD: I think you would be better using SystemRescueCD than the minimal cd, go ahead http://lmgtfy.com/?q=systemrescuecd+download Again not funny. I've been pointing people (directly) to systemrescuecd for years, but rarely need it myself because all my systems are very multiboot. I didn't want to boot live media in the first place, trying it only because of misunderstanding stage3 options using alternative boot. I'm in chroot in phase 4 now. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
[gentoo-user] 'tar xvjpf stage3-*.tar.bz2 --xattrs' failed with unknown option --xattrs
I booted x86_64 openSUSE 13.1 HD installation to try to begin Gentoo installation, beginning from Unpacking the stage tarball on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Stage : # tar xvjpf /pub/stage3-sh4-20120307.tar.bz2 --xattrs Tar (GNU tar) v1.26 reported unrecognized option '--xattrs' Searching the tar man page for 'xattrs' produced no hits, and same for bzip2 man page. I rebooted into Debian Jessie instead to try again, and the same command with Gnu tar 1.27.1 completed, apparently normally. ??? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 21:36 (UTC+0100): On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:32:51 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I've yet to figure out how to get a list of all installed packages akin to 'rpm -qa | sort', so I really don't know what my starting configuration is. qlist -ICv -bash: qlist: command not found emerge qlist fails (with unable to parse profile...unsupported EAPI '5') -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation
James composed on 2015-08-04 21:07 (UTC): Interesting choice:: how do you like your choices, Felix? Choices are a double edged sword. The more you have, the more power you have, but the harder to choose, especially while overwhelmed by the unfamiliar. Your later provided ungrading old installation links are intriguing, but nevertheless I'm leaning heavily toward starting fresh. Whether that or upgrade, questions asked and remaining unanswered are leaving me unable to pick a target, whether latest release, or unknown where best to go without being encumbered by the systemd adolescent, if there's any practical point in so doing. Also there's an as yet unasked question I want to get a handle on before doing anything else. What I have now has no /dev/fb*, so I'm stuck in 80x25 mode unable to use vga= and apparently with a non-modesetting kernel. I wouldn't want a new installation also so hamstrung right off the bat without first knowing what to do about it. To the wider list of gentoo hacks:: Still think we do not need an easier installation semantic? If he decides to 'upgrade' there will be tons of man-hours spent on this effort. If we had a mostly unattended basic installation semantic (proceedure/install) I bet he (Felix) would choose that pathway. Felix, care to comment? Again it's a question of ability to and interest in dealing with choices. Among conventional distro installers, only openSUSE's YaST2 power pleases me. I would say the traditional text-only Debian installer (shared by *buntu) was worst, if only Anaconda wasn't so horribly horribly unintuitive. Mageia's isn't too bad if one doesn't mind needing to install minimal and then pickchoose from urpmi cmdline after setting no-recommends in order to avoid bloat. The Gentoo instructions look competent enough to do well for most of the people it's designed for, if only they aren't trying to do as currently I, avoid systemd. I really should have followed up on my installation 50 months ago at *least* 3 years ago. I have no recollection what stopped me, unless it was a naive choice to put it on one of my oldest slowest machines with nv11 instead of newer Intel or ATI and bunches more CPU power. It could also at least in part be a result of space required exceeding what I'm used to. Most of my test installations are in 4.8G / partitions that wind up 80% full or less. This original is on 4.8G, has only 26% free, apparently has no Xorg or KDE, and no qlist to figure what *is* installed. If we (gentoo) had a simple installation semantic, this sort of problem would most likely disappear; so the wider community could delve into other technical support issues.. YMMV. I get the feeling Gentoo isn't a right choice for people who need a simple installation semantic. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation
Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 18:44 (UTC+0100): On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:12:42 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: 6-# emerge portage This produced a longish warning: !!! /etc/make.profile is not a symlink and will probably prevent most merges. !!! It should point into a profile within /usr/portage/profiles/ !!! (You can safely ignore this message when syncing. It's harmless.) !!! If you have just changed your profile configuration, you should revert !!! backto the previous configuration. Due to your current profile being !!! invalid, allowed actions are limited to --help, --info, --sync, and !!! --version. So, /etc/make.profile exists, but it's a symlink to a non-existant ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop. Is all I need to do to be able to proceed to change the symlink to point to ...x86/13.0/des...? Any suggestions or words of wisdom? The message says it's not a symlink, not that it points nowhere. It may be that your cloning method dereferenced it when copying. Just reset it with eselect profile list followed by eselect profile set. I think we have a n00b communication failure here. :-p These are the current states of source and target (post-emerge --sync, emerge portage, and eselect profile set 6 on target): Source: # uname -a out Linux kt400 2.6.37-gentoo-r4 #1 Sun May 15 19:32:50 EDT 2011 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux # mount | grep ' / ' out /dev/sda7 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime) # blkid /dev/sda29 out /dev/sda29: LABEL=gentoon UUID=eb3b5ce7-1675-4356-a508-ba6c30e590e0 SEC_TYPE=ext2 TYPE=ext3 # ls -l /etc/mak* | grep -v *conf.1* out -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 670 May 16 2011 /etc/make.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Apr 26 2011 /etc/make.conf.01 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 544 May 15 2011 /etc/make.conf.12 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 588 May 15 2011 /etc/make.conf.13 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 677 May 15 2011 /etc/make.conf.14 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 698 May 16 2011 /etc/make.conf.15 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 670 May 16 2011 /etc/make.conf.16 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Apr 26 2011 /etc/make.conf.catalyst lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 26 2011 /etc/make.globals - ../usr/share/portage/config/make.globals lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 54 May 16 2011 /etc/make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop # ls -l /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/* out -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage2 Oct 22 2009 /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/eapi -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage 34 Aug 6 2009 /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/parent /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/gnome: total 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage 2 Mar 29 2010 eapi -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage 43 Mar 29 2010 parent /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/kde: total 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage 2 Mar 29 2010 eapi -rw-r--r-- 1 portage portage 41 Mar 29 2010 parent Target: # uname -a out Linux kt400 2.6.37-gentoo-r4 #1 Sun May 15 19:32:50 EDT 2011 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux # mount | grep ' / ' /dev/sda29 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime) # blkid /dev/sda29 /dev/sda29: LABEL=gentoon UUID=eb3b5ce7-1675-4356-a508-ba6c30e590e0 TYPE=ext3 # ls -l /etc/mak* | grep -v *conf.1* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 670 May 16 2011 /etc/make.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Apr 26 2011 /etc/make.conf.01 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 544 May 15 2011 /etc/make.conf.12 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 588 May 15 2011 /etc/make.conf.13 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 677 May 15 2011 /etc/make.conf.14 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 698 May 16 2011 /etc/make.conf.15 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 670 May 16 2011 /etc/make.conf.16 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Apr 26 2011 /etc/make.conf.catalyst lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Apr 26 2011 /etc/make.globals - ../usr/share/portage/config/make.globals lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 58 Aug 4 13:30 /etc/make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/desktop/kde # ls -l /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/desktop/kde/* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root2 Mar 19 2014 /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/desktop/kde/eapi -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 41 Jan 18 2013 /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/desktop/kde/parent /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/13.0/desktop/kde/systemd: total 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 Mar 19 2014 eapi -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40 Oct 19 2013 parent In case it might be useful, .bash_history: Up until I started today's thread: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/bash_history-kt400N.txt From back when I installed 4 years ago, annotated at the time: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/bash_history.05 -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation
Grant Edwards composed on 2015-08-04 17:20 (UTC): Felix Miata wrote: That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to upgrade it rather than installing fresh, Can we ask why? Because, assuming it's feasible, I can? :-) 1-I just find upgrade processes more enjoyable than inital installations and their follow-up tedium getting from defaults back to the way I like things to work. 2-From one installation to the next, I typically forget installation choices that in hindsight I would not have made. if it's doable. It probably is (for some degnerate value of doable). My gut feeling is that a fresh install is going to be a _lot_ easier For some degenerate value of easier. :-) and faster. A fresh install will take a couple hours. An upgrade will take somewhere between a couple days and a couple weeks. Seriously, more than a day? Now that I've seen several thread responses subsequent to this one, I'm leaning towared just doing a fresh installation, but I'm curious about what would happen by trying, and how long it really would take. Skipping or after attemping upgrade, I'd chroot from an existing, probably openSUSE rather than Fedora, because I have Tumbleweed all the way back to 11.2 to choose from. Would there be any particular advantage to picking a particular one to use, with/without systemd, or a kernel version close, or newer, or older, than that which will be emerged? I like that eselect list currently offers a kde sans systemd sans plasma option. Ultimately what I'd like to do is get Gentoo on at least one of my much faster systems, but only after enough experience with it to have a respectable shot at putting Trinity on it instead of any of the more popular DEs. This machine is a guinea pig for familiarization purposes. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
[gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation
That's right, May 2011, my first and only Gentoo installation, 32 bit on an old Athlon, which means no sse2, and kernel 2.6.37. It coexists in multiboot on one HD with 12 installations of Fedora and openSUSE. I'd like to upgrade it rather than installing fresh, if it's doable. My initial steps have been: 1-scan through: a: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_Gentoo b: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Working/Portage 2-clone the existing partition to a larger one to be the upgrade target 3-boot the target 4-note that there exists no /etc/portage/ 5-# emerge --sync which warned I need to emerge portage before doing anything else 6-# emerge portage This produced a longish warning: !!! /etc/make.profile is not a symlink and will probably prevent most merges. !!! It should point into a profile within /usr/portage/profiles/ !!! (You can safely ignore this message when syncing. It's harmless.) !!! If you have just changed your profile configuration, you should revert !!! backto the previous configuration. Due to your current profile being !!! invalid, allowed actions are limited to --help, --info, --sync, and !!! --version. So, /etc/make.profile exists, but it's a symlink to a non-existant ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop. Is all I need to do to be able to proceed to change the symlink to point to ...x86/13.0/des...? Any suggestions or words of wisdom? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation
Dale composed on 2015-08-04 12:41 (UTC-0500): First, you are going to have a interesting few days, at least. It would be faster and easier to start fresh. Honestly. If you just have to or want to for a learning experience, cool. See if eselect exists. If it does, try this: eselect profile list If that works, pick whatever profile is closest to what you use and set it. That *should* take care of your first problem. No complaint from selecting 3, then 6. You got lots more coming I bet. It already seems to be telling me don't. Man portage works, but portage --help produces not found. :-P I've yet to figure out how to get a list of all installed packages akin to 'rpm -qa | sort', so I really don't know what my starting configuration is. Startx doesn't work, which looks like maybe because /usr/bin/X* doesn't exist, and /etc/X11 is rather sparse. If that doesn't work, then you have to link it the old fashioned way. Link the directory for the profile in /usr/portage/profiles/your-profile to /etc/make.profile and then see if it is happy. Also, since this is going to be uphill all the way, I'd use the latest unstable portage excluding the version. At least that way, portage will help solve some problems, if it can. http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/distfiles/portage-2.2.8.tar.bz2 wouldn't be close enough, or is that what you're suggesting? http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/snapshots/ has a lot to pick from. I suspect this thread could get long and interesting. o_O At least for now, I'd like to not try to go past 20121221 in order to avoid systemd. So far I've not found a procedure lending itself to that except to install via http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/x86/20121221/ , but the machine doesn't boot USB and only has a CD reader. Neither of those normally matter, since my preferred installation method is HTTP initiated by Grub loading an installation kernel and initrd, but I've yet to locate Gentoo's for that AFAICT, if it even has any such thing. I guess the chroot to untar methodology on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Stage obviates any such need? On http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/ I don't see anything that looks like a way to get to 20121221 if not already there. Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-04 18:44 (UTC+0100): How did you clone it? It appears parts are missing. I used the word clone a bit loosely. I did rsync -av after a fresh mkfs.ext3. What's missing on clone is missing on source too. Difference in used below I suppose is mostly on account of having already run emerge --sync? Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 396623256772119369 69% /disks/boot /dev/sda7 4875929 3410712 1219425 74% /disks/ogentoo /dev/sda29 6501216 3689976 2483516 60% / /dev/sda10 4837465 3365041 1226632 74% /disks/evergreen /dev/sda12 3250579 1302593 1784125 43% /home /dev/sda13 1625241248895 1294417 17% /usr/local -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:02:20PM +0800, Guillaume Poulin wrote: 2013/9/11 fe...@crowfix.com: 1. Anyone have any experience installing gentoo on a System76 laptop? If it works fine on Ubuntu I don't any reason why you would have difficulty with Gentoo. Right, in theory. Software is software,Ubuntu is free source software, the code should be avalable. But Ubuntu does a lot of things differently and I have reached a stage in life where using my computer is more important than spending inordinate amounts of time piecing together the parts that make it wrk. What I was hoping for was someone who had done this and could report what specific steps were needed, what modules, custom config, etc. (Hopeing, not expecting :-) 2. If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch Netflix streaming movies? Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not try that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to enrich Boll Gates' pension. If it's just to watch Netflix, the windows native client work greatly on wine. I'm not a big fan of wine but it's what I did for my sister on her Ubuntu laptop and she seems happy That's good to know. Where is this native client -- is it a download from Netflix? Last time I played arund with wine was back in the days when experimentation in oddball corners was fun. Now there are so many such corners, and so much that each can do, that my interests have moved up a step. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:31:26AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: 2. If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch Netflix streaming movies? Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not try that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to enrich Boll Gates' pension. Check out the Gentoo Wiki for a couple alternative ways to possibly watch Netflix in Linux without needing a virtual machine at all: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Netflix http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Netflix/Pipelight Pipelight looks interesting; saved the bookmark. Thanks. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] Gentoo on System76 laptop, and Netflix
I have an old (6-7 years?) Mac laptop which I mostly use for watching streaming Netflix movies, and ssh into work computers of one sort or another. It has one dead key (up arrow), another which is flaky, the screen brightness sometimes flickers, but it generally still works, mostly. My home computer is gentoo but a big server. At work I have a System76 laptop, Gazelle Pro I think, which has one of the best keyboards I have ever used of any type, so I have been thinking of getting one for myself. But it runs Ubuntu, and while that is ok for work, I'd get pretty tired of it on a personal computer. So, two questions: 1. Anyone have any experience installing gentoo on a System76 laptop? 2. If I use kvm/virsh, is it possible to install a Mac image to watch Netflix streaming movies? Or, yecch, Windows, but I'd really rather not try that, as I haven't touched Windows for 15-20 years and see no reason to enrich Boll Gates' pension. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] pop up windows with text message
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:54:31AM -0600, Joseph wrote: How to design a sticky note pop-up when file is present? I would like to check if file is present via and open a terminal window with a simple message. I think a simple bash script and a cron job would do the trick or is there a better solution? Only partially related, I wrote the following dumb little script for crontab notifies, or to check a laptop battery every 5 minutes and report if below a certain level, etc. Really simple, but it works on most X systems. #!/bin/sh if [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then export DISPLAY=localhost:0; fi xmopts= while [ $1 = -x ]; do xmopts=$xmopts $2 shift;shift done echo $@ | xmessage -bg green -fg red -file - -title Alert -nearmouse -default okay $xmopts -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] texlive-basic
Hello Silvio,
Silvio Siefke wrote:
Hello,
have someone run the texlive update succesfully? I have problems with
building.
The message:
###
fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
Visit the log files in directory
/var/tmp/portage/dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012/work/texmf-var/web2c
for details.
###
This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
`luatex -ini -jobname=dviluatex -progname=dviluatex dviluatex.ini' failed
`luatex -ini -jobname=luatex -progname=luatex luatex.ini' failed
* ERROR: dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012 failed (compile phase):
* failed to build format texmf/fmtutil/format.texlive-basic.cnf
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 93: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2195: Called texlive-module_src_compile
* environment, line 2834: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* VARTEXFONTS=${T}/fonts
TEXMFHOME=${S}/texmf:${S}/texmf-dist:${S}/texmf-var env -u TEXINPUTS
fmtutil --cnffile ${i} --fmtdir ${S}/texmf-var/web2c --all || die failed
to build format ${i};
*
* If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012'`,
* the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012'`.
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012/temp/environment'.
* Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012/work'
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012/work'
That error occurred on my 32-Bit systems, too (interestingly, not on any
amd64 system). Was easily solved by recompiling luatex, it had some
broken dependency not detected by revdep-rebuild.
To check that, maybe try running luatex on the console, it crashed
instantly on my boxes until it was re-emerged...
Thank you Greetings Silvio
Regards,
Felix
[gentoo-user] udev upgrade and baselayout 2.2
I've finally got my system settled enough to look into teh scary udev upgrade. Especially I have all data dirs off in their own LVM partitions (/home, /encfs, /usr/portage, /var/spool), and a backup of the most recent bootable and runable /, so I can boot back to that if I need to and still get email etc. while working oout what I screwed up. Excluding gcc, llvm, various app-emulation packages, videolibs, etc, most of it looks innocent enough. =sys-apps/coreutils-8.21 =sys-apps/dbus-1.6.10 =sys-apps/dmidecode-2.12 =sys-apps/gptfdisk-0.8.6 =sys-apps/hwids-20130329 =sys-apps/hwloc-1.6.2 =sys-apps/kmod-13 =sys-apps/pciutils-3.2.0 =sys-apps/portage-2.1.11.62 =sys-apps/sandbox-2.6-r1 =sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4 =sys-apps/usbutils-006-r1 =sys-apps/util-linux-2.22.2 =sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 =sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r1 =sys-auth/polkit-0.110 =sys-block/nbd-3.3 =sys-block/thin-provisioning-tools-0.1.5-r1 =sys-cluster/openmpi-1.6.4 =sys-fs/ecryptfs-utils-103 =sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.98 =sys-fs/s3fs-1.67 =sys-fs/s3ql-1.14 =sys-fs/udev-202 =sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-26 =sys-fs/udisks-1.0.4-r5 =sys-fs/udisks-2.1.0:2 =sys-libs/glibc-2.17:2.2 =sys-libs/pam-1.1.6-r4 =sys-power/cpufrequtils-008-r2 =sys-power/cpupower-3.8-r1 =sys-power/powertop-2.3 =sys-power/upower-0.9.20-r2 =sys-process/lsof-4.87-r1 =virtual/udev-197-r3 Some give me pause: =sys-apps/baselayout-2.2 Is baselayout 2.2 necessary for upgrading udev, or just optional? Could I upgrade this without upgrading udev? =sys-boot/grub-2.00-r3:2 I'm running grub 1. What I have seen of grub 2 doesn't impress me, and besides, my bootable backup is on a different disk but relies on the grub 1 boot setup, and I'd just as soon not upgrade to grub 2 ever if possible. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox guest eth0/enp0s3 problem
Hi João, João Matos: Hi list. I decided to install a virtual server for testing some stuff, but I couldn't configure eth0 as usual. The system complain it doesn't exist. After compiling the kernel hundreds of times, I supposed the problem wasn't my kernel configuration then installed dhcpcd. Due to the new udev version, the devices will be renamed by default to names like enp0s3. This is not done by the kernel and no driver issue, just a renaming at boot time done by udev. For my surprise, I got an IP address, but there weren't eth0, just enp0s3 instead. It wouldn't be a problem (even with dhcp), but I can't start any service. They (sshd) complain that there is no eth0. You might have some old references to eth0 around, e.g.: - /etc/init.d/net.eth0 (move this file to /etc/init.d/net.enp0s3) - entries in /etc/conf.d/net (same here, rename them all to enp0s3) - net.eth0 is maybe installed in the default runlevel. Remove it and add net.enp0s3 - in case SSH still refuses to start, try running /lib/rc/bin/rc-depend -u as root and/or setting rc_depend_strict=NO in /etc/rc.conf I'm using stable packages (x86). Any suggestions? Thank you. -- João de Matos Linux User #461527 Regards, Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 18:39, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, this works (never heard of this file before). But there is one small problem: no wildcards are allowed, so whenever new sorces come I'll have to edit package.provided again, and again... BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Because your use case is not standard. The normal situation for users with kmod installed (and you have already kmod installed, since in your --pretend run appears as to be reinstalled) is for them to use kernel modules. The developers cannot handle every possible combination of configurations, so defaults are set for the least weird cases, or the common case even. Your setup is not the norm; therefore, it depends on you to keep it as you like it. Regards. The case is actually quite common; Linux *sources* are only needed for building kernels on the local machine (and - if used - additional modules like nvidia-drivers). Anyone who does not build the kernel on the local machine, e.g. taking stock kernels from Debian/Fedora/..., kernel provided by netboot/openvz/Xen domUs or build them remotely will almost never need linux-sources installed. BTW this will also add full kernel sources to all stage3 archives, increasing their size quite significantly. Regards, Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:41:18 +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote: BTW this will also add full kernel sources to all stage3 archives, increasing their size quite significantly. Stage 3 archives only contains necessary packages for which there is no choice. They don't include a cron daemon or a system logger for that reason, so they won't include kernel sources. AFAICT stage3 archives include everything of @system. virtual/dev-manager usually pulls in udev, which might pull in kmod (depending on USE flags) and virtual/modutils is part of system, which by default uses kmod. So kmod is part of system and it then requires virtual/linux-sources as a dependency, so they are now part of system as well. That wasn't the case some days ago, and IMHO linux-sources should not be part of @system in the future. Regards, Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] portage insists in pulling in sys-apps/kmod
Mike Gilbert: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: Hello, Some of my servers are running with a kernel without module-support. On these servers something has started to pull in sys-apps/kmod, which when compiled complains about missing modules-support in the kernel (as it should). Doing an equery d sys-apps/kmod I can see that the following two packages depends on sy-apps/kmod: sys-fs/udev-197-r8 (kmod ? =sys-apps/kmod-12) virtual/modutils-0 (sys-apps/kmod[tools]) sys-fs/udev has -kmod in its USE-flags, so that should not be an issue). # emerge --verbose --pretend sys-fs/udev [ebuild R] sys-fs/udev-197-r8 USE=acl openrc -doc -gudev -hwdb -introspection -keymap -kmod (-selinux) -static-libs 0 kB With virtual/modutils its an other thing, here we have a circular dependency between virtual/modutils and sys-apps/kmod if the tools USE-flag is set. That circular dep is interesting; sys-apps/kmod only depends on virtual/modutils because it inherits linux-mod.eclass. Could you file about about the circular dependency please? I recognized another issue possibly caused by inheriting linux-mod.eclass: kmod is pulling in virtual/linux-sources as a dependency, which actually is not necessary at all (and maybe even annoying, it's at least some hundred megabytes).
Re: [gentoo-user] PATA vs SATA kernel driver (was: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore)
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:32:03AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:01:57 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Since this is depreciated, which generally means no longer maintained nitpick The word you want is deprecated. depreciated is something else entirely, it's what your employer does to the book value of your company car over 5 years to get the value down to nothing. /nitpick Depreciated is perfectly cromulent in this instance. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors -- SOLVED
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:41:54PM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I configured a minimal kernel to test it sooner, and it booted to a prompt. Now I am compiling with my normal config, including encfs and a lot of other gorp, and will try it in the morning. My bloated fully-larded normal config version of the patched 3.7.1 kernel also works. dmesg logs match with the usual differences in USB assignments and a few messages which changed wording. The patch author says the patch is just waiting for the maintainers to approve it up the line. I do not know if that means it will be in 3.7.2. Thanks to everyone who helped here, especially with git bisect. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:56:39PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: `git tag` should give you a list of version numbers. The tag you are searching for is v3.7. Thanks -- power went out, standby generator kicked in and woke me up at 0430, and I woke realizing that. Bisect is happy. My git-fu is weak, since I mostly use it for personal projects. Work only uses subversion, blecch. Didn't know about git tag, and got bisect help doesn't mention it. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors -- Bisect done
Finished the bisect between 3.6.10 and 3.7. Here's the log. The suspect patch has an interesting name: ahci: implement aggressive SATA device sleep support I'll send email to the patch author too. I should make it clear that this is not urgent for me, since 3.6.10 isn't obsolete yet. Bisecting: a merge base must be tested [a0d271cbfed1dd50278c6b06bead3d00ba0a88f9] Linux 3.6 Bisecting: 6499 revisions left to test after this (roughly 13 steps) [d66e6737d454553e1e62109d8298ede5351178a4] Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/herbert/crypto-2.6 Bisecting: 3257 revisions left to test after this (roughly 12 steps) [6d55d5968a8622f3ea20ec40737aea1cfba6438c] Merge branch 'next/soc' into HEAD Bisecting: 1329 revisions left to test after this (roughly 11 steps) [aecdc33e111b2c447b622e287c6003726daa1426] Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next Bisecting: 684 revisions left to test after this (roughly 9 steps) [65b99c74fdd325d1ffa2e5663295888704712604] Merge tag 'upstream-3.7-rc1' of git://git.infradead.org/linux-ubi Bisecting: 337 revisions left to test after this (roughly 8 steps) [16642a2e7be23bbda013fc32d8f6c68982eab603] Merge tag 'pm-for-3.7-rc1' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm Bisecting: 164 revisions left to test after this (roughly 7 steps) [7a9a2970b5c1c2ce73d4bb84edaa7ebf13e0c841] Merge tag 'rdma-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/roland/infiniband Bisecting: 81 revisions left to test after this (roughly 6 steps) [c26d4114aac55b57078caf83e261621d22e4596d] Merge branch 'pm-qos' Bisecting: 45 revisions left to test after this (roughly 5 steps) [c09b890b763df3ccd79a2c34c2f1abeb73179caf] spi/imx: set the inactive state of the clock according to the clock polarity Bisecting: 24 revisions left to test after this (roughly 5 steps) [7fe0b14b725d6d09a1d9e1409bd465cb88b587f9] Merge tag 'spi-3.7' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/misc Bisecting: 12 revisions left to test after this (roughly 4 steps) [f1e70c2c535923de253eea2021376a936eb8d478] ata/ahci_platform: Add clock framework support Bisecting: 5 revisions left to test after this (roughly 3 steps) [583661a89ed2e484bd295e7b4606099340478c38] ata: define enum constants for IDENTIFY DEVICE Bisecting: 2 revisions left to test after this (roughly 2 steps) [8996b89d6bc98ae2f6d6e6e624a42a3f89d06949] ata: add platform driver for Calxeda AHCI controller Bisecting: 0 revisions left to test after this (roughly 1 step) [100f586bd0959fe0e52b8a0b8cb49a3df1c6b044] sata_fsl: add workaround for data length mismatch on freescale V2 controller Bisecting: 0 revisions left to test after this (roughly 0 steps) [65fe1f0f66a57380229a4ced844188103135f37b] ahci: implement aggressive SATA device sleep support 65fe1f0f66a57380229a4ced844188103135f37b is the first bad commit commit 65fe1f0f66a57380229a4ced844188103135f37b Author: Shane Huang shane.hu...@amd.com Date: Fri Sep 7 22:40:01 2012 +0800 ahci: implement aggressive SATA device sleep support Device Sleep is a feature as described in AHCI 1.3.1 Technical Proposal. This feature enables an HBA and SATA storage device to enter the DevSleep interface state, enabling lower power SATA-based systems. Aggressive Device Sleep enables the HBA to assert the DEVSLP signal as soon as there are no commands outstanding to the device and the port specific Device Sleep idle timer has expired. This enables autonomous entry into the DevSleep interface state without waiting for software in power sensitive systems. This patch enables Aggressive Device Sleep only if both host controller and device support it. Tested on AMD reference board together with Device Sleep supported device sample. Signed-off-by: Shane Huang shane.hu...@amd.com Reviewed-by: Aaron Lu aaron@gmail.com Signed-off-by: Jeff Garzik jgar...@redhat.com :04 04 9441b703760224de98a80546977129214d9528f8 436fe4f42392a48b4564f09cad69dafbe82be2c1 M drivers :04 04 3177c859173da3d15f3c2fb287364f063aa420d9 a39a26dc3f6c0b21433688420a820b121a921cec M include -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors -- Bisect done
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 08:53:14PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Possibly related? https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51881 Indeed :-) The patch author directed me there, I've applied the 51881 patch to the 3.7.1 sources, and it just started compiling. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors -- patch works
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:14:33PM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: Indeed :-) The patch author directed me there, I've applied the 51881 patch to the 3.7.1 sources, and it just started compiling. I configured a minimal kernel to test it sooner, and it booted to a prompt. Now I am compiling with my normal config, including encfs and a lot of other gorp, and will try it in the morning. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 08:56:56AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: We're on the road, getting ready to pack, and not in a good position to do much on this issue atm. Nevertheless, a most unexpected Christmas present! In progress, and thank you. My dilemna certainly isn't urgent, since 3.6.10 still works. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:58:54AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: A me too on the problem the original poster is seeing. I too am seeing this on a server I have. 3.7.0 and 3.7.1 both don't work but 3.6.10 works fine. I'm using the sata_mv driver with a SuperMicro (two actually) cards with Marvell MV88SX6081's. These chips and their driver have had some issues in the past. A pruned lspci -nnk: 00:07.1 IDE interface [0101]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 IDE [1022:7469] (rev 03) Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 IDE [1022:7469] Kernel driver in use: pata_amd 01:03.0 SCSI storage controller [0100]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller [11ab:6081] (rev 09) Subsystem: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device [11ab:11ab] Kernel driver in use: sata_mv 02:06.0 SCSI storage controller [0100]: Adaptec AIC-7902B U320 [9005:801d] (rev 10) Subsystem: Adaptec Device [9005:005e] Kernel driver in use: aic79xx 02:06.1 SCSI storage controller [0100]: Adaptec AIC-7902B U320 [9005:801d] (rev 10) Subsystem: Adaptec Device [9005:005e] Kernel driver in use: aic79xx 03:05.0 Mass storage controller [0180]: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller [1095:3114] (rev 02) Subsystem: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 SATALink Controller [1095:3114] Kernel driver in use: sata_sil pata_amd /dev/sdg 320G for boot which seems happy sata_mv /dev/sd[ab] 2 x 300G LVM mounted automatically from fstab /dev/sd[cd] 2 4T ditto sata_sil /dev/sde512G SSD with / and swap /dev/sdf512G SSD wirh LVM for /home, /encfs, and mail spool aic79xx no drives The sata_mv drives are not necessary for boot, but they do take up /dev/sd? namespace. Might be interesting to try Bruce Hill's idea of a pruned 3.7.1 kernel without that driver. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 08:56:56AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: I would suggest you run lspci -nnk with your running 3.6.10 kernel and save that output. Then go into the kernel source directory for 3.7.1, run make mrproper then make defconfig and enable all the kernel drivers listed in the lspci -nnk output, as well as the drivers for your IDE/SATA controllers, and / filesystem. That kernel should boot you, and will get rid of a lot of the cruft from the present bloated kernels. Made a minimal 3.7.1 kernel, much smaller and compiled nice and fast. Hung just like the bloated one, drat. So I guess I will read up on bisecting. I know the principle, but have never tried it. I suppose one starting point is make sure a pure-vanilla 3.6.10 kernel boots. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 04:20:23PM -0600, Dale wrote: This is what I would try: ... Maybe that will help. At least get you to a console. That alone makes fixing something else easier. Checked all that -- it boots into the same ATA driver failures as the bloated version of the kernel. Even have to power off and wait a while before it resets properly for a 3.6.10 reboot. So I think it is bisecting for me. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 06:03:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: Is it possible that you have two SATA drivers enabled and the two conflict each other? I read, I think on this list, where someone had to disable one driver for the correct driver to work. You may want to go here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ I'm not sure what good it would do me to find driver incompatibility like that, since I need all the drivers working at once, and I'd still have to bisect them. One other thought, you tried a even more recent kernel version? Maybe that version is bad or something. Back to my stump. 3.7.0 failed, then 3.7.1. I haven't tried anything more recent. I'm trying to download the kernel git, but my satellite link is kinda slow, and it's snowing on and off and temporarily clogging the dish until the heater kicks in. Once I get it downloaded, I'll make sure the 3.6.10 equivalent works and the 3.7.0 fails, then start bisecting. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 01:11:04PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: The best way to find out what's wrong is to bisect the kernel, i.e. finding the exact commit that caused the issue to appear. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect Got the repository cloned: # git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git linux-stable Tried to start the bisect, but ran into a problem: # git bisect start # git bisect bad v3.7.0 fatal: Needed a single revision Bad rev input: v3.7.0 Tried v3.7.0.0 for fun, same error. Tried good first, guessing it can't do much harm that a git bisect reset can't fix. # git bisect good v3.6.10 a63a7cf3fc2ac1aff657f58ea446c34f3252209a was both good and bad # git bisect bad v3.7.0 fatal: Needed a single revision Bad rev input: v3.7.0 Have I grabbed a repository which doesn't include 3.7.0? Google research continues. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:35:20AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: Puhleeeze don't put such long stuff in an email. Have you heard of attachments? pastebins? I was under the impression that gentoo strips attachments. At any rate, I summarized as much as possible and only put the the full logs at the end. As for the cookies, shrug so many sites require cookies and/or javascript these days that I won't waste my time trying to find one that doesn't. I just make sure they are temporary. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:07:04AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: Would you consider our own pastebin from portage? Sure, in progress. I'll have to read up on this pastebin stuff. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:07:04AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: emerge -av app-text/wgetpaste wgetpaste /path/to/3.6/.config /path/to/3.7/.config 3.6.10 .config -- http://bpaste.net/show/66307/ 3.7.1 .config -- http://bpaste.net/show/66309/ Also can you dmesg | wgetpaste and note the uname -srm output? 3.6.10 dmesg -- http://bpaste.net/show/66310/ uname -srm: Linux 3.6.10-gentoo x86_64 A couple of others: My partial transcription of the 3.7.1 boot error messages: http://bpaste.net/show/66311/ 3.6.10 emerge --info: http://bpaste.net/show/66312/ I also added all this to the Dropbox dir. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 07:41:10AM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I was under the impression that gentoo strips attachments. At any rate, I summarized as much as possible and only put the the full logs at the end. Looks like the attachments got thru. I will try to remember that. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:53:34AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: This time it has 4 attachments; afaik there were zero attachments the first time (deleted email here so can't check now). No worries, files here now. Yes, I originally sent no attachments, since I thought the mailing list stripped them. Do you have a /var/log/messages (might be in rotated, gzipped one even) that includes the 3.6.10 *and* 3.7.1 boot? Can't do anything for 3.7.1, since it never boots. Here is the 3.6.10 file, from boot until all disks are found: http://bpaste.net/show/66317/ -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] 3.7.1 SATA errors
Asymmetric public-key crypto algorithm subtype (ASYMMETRIC_PUBLIC_KEY_SUBTYPE) [N/m/?] (NEW) m RSA public-key algorithm (PUBLIC_KEY_ALGO_RSA) [N/m/?] (NEW) m X.509 certificate parser (X509_CERTIFICATE_PARSER) [N/m/?] (NEW) m -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:49:46PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/12/12 21:23, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: A few weeks ago I had a scare when a reboot paniced the kernel with a complaint that it could not find the root device (/dev/sde), and further reboots couldn't even see the USB keyboard. Leavng the system powered off overnight fixed the problem and the system has been working fine ever since. Do a memtest first. emerge sys-apps/memtest86+ and then add an entry for it in Grub: title=Memtest86+ root (hd0,0) # - adapt this to your partition kernel /boot/memtest86plus/memtest.bin Then boot that entry and see if you get any errors in the first 5 minutes or so. Starting the emerge etc. But why would this be a memory problem when it is so clearly 3.6 vs 3.7? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 3.7.1 SATA errors
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:49:46PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Then boot that entry and see if you get any errors in the first 5 minutes or so. Let it run a complete pass, about an hour, no errors. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:10:30PM +, Robert Walker wrote: I amused to read this thread. I've an old dual-Opteron box that I'm still using. It was my first watercooling experiment. Apart from the complete lack of power management support (the system sucks down a continuous 300+Watts) and no Vt-d hardware virtualisation support it's quite a pleasant rig to play about with :-) Mine is also my first water cooled rig, but I'm not sure I'd do it again. It's certainly quieter, but it has given me several surprises in sudden warm weather, changing the fluid every couple of years is a major pain, and retubing it is a several day headache by the time I add in cabling problems. Having to blow out the dust perdiocially is probably less hassle since there aren't fans to blow the dust around so much. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus
Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I may have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB drive backups, but the only other computer I have right now is an old Mac laptop which can't read Linux LVM partitions. Questions: 1. I don't remember, and can't look up, the make.conf processor flags I emerge with. But it is dual Opterons, and ~amd64. How compatible could that be with modern Intel CPUs? I know Intel adopted the extra registers of the AMD64 instruction set, but are there other differences which would prevent an Opteron system from running as is under an Intel processor? Maybe AMD still sells Opterons, and I will be stuck with building a system. 2. Is it feasible to buy some commodity box, like from Dell, with an Intel processor, and plug in my two SATA SSD drives and get a console boot? I don't give a fig right now about any GUI interface, and even Internet is not the problem. If it will boot and run emerges, I can import the source files for X and Ethernet and other peripherals via USB stick. But SATA drivers ... 3. My kernels always have just about every driver compiled in as modules, an old habit from when I used to swap in PCI cards like crazy. I don't remember now how many SATA drivers are built in and how many are modules; if the commodity box needs SATA drivers which aren't built in, that could get tricky. Are there boot command line options to preload certain modules? Might not do me any good. I think I could scrape by with USB modules, but not SATA. For the curious, here is wat happened. When I left off last night, the USB keyboard was only recognized when I unplugged all other USB devices, and the system hung at the grub point, with a blank screen. A reboot failed because it couldn't find the root=/dev/sde drive. But the USB keyboard was working because I used it in grub to select a new 3.7.0 kernel (had been running 3.6.8). A second reboot ignored the USB keyboard and generated an ATA error I had never seen before for every ATA drive and some I don't have, all the way up to ATA13 before I rebooted it again. I haven't got it to boot even this far since, so I can't regenerate that error. There was a 5 second or so delay between these errors, making me think the ATAnn designator might not be different drives, just retries. It booted a rescue DVD, but without the keyboard it was kind of pointless, and it hung after showing two lines which I believe are unrelated other than a place marker (generating xxx key, generating RSA key). The keyboard wasn't even recognized by the BIOS. I finally disconnected every USB device, all the ubs, and then the keyboard worked. But when I left it last night, it wouldn't even bring up the grub screen. All the BIOS screens show the usual disk drives. The system was working perfectly fine before all hell broke loose. The keyboard was recognized during grub the first time, but after that only if all other USB devices were disconnected. The disk drives acted funny during the boot, first with the unknown root- device error, then with the funky ATA errors, and finally with not even bringing up grub. I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks and keyboard? I will find out. My best guess right now is that booting 3.7.0 is what clobbered things; whether I added a option which loaded bad firmware, or 3.7.0 is broken, I have no idea. It could well be something unrelated to 3.7.0. My goal for today is to try to get keyboard and disk working, then boot with 3.6.8. -- Felix Finch, a la mode
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:28:41AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: (Admittedly quick and dirty response) Much appreciated. Gives me some hope ... Pull out an old PS2 keyboard. Sometimes, that's the easiest way to get things going. I thought of that -- don't have any. They all got recycled a few years back :-( -- Felix Finch, a la mode
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 06:22:10PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: how about a more stable kernel - like 3.4.X? It was running 3.6.8 fine, and ~ kernels for ages before that. The paranoid in me thinks it was 3.7.0, but I really don't know. and yes, a confused bios can do a lot of strange things. One thing you might try: disconnect your box from the main for several minutes, reset bios... had to do that dance A LOT with a costly POS asus board... I unplugged it last night, tried again half an hour later, no joy, so I unplugged it again and have been eating breakfast, got osme errands to run, and then I will try again. What's so frustrating is that the box was working fine, including the keyboard, until that first boot into 3.7.0, where it couldn't find the root drive, and then the keyboard stopped working, even with the BIOS, almost as if 3.7.0 did something nasty and clobbered everything it could get its hands on. Well, I'll try again in a bit. -- Felix Finch, a la mode
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:16:46PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks and keyboard? I will find out. My best guess right now is that booting 3.7.0 is what clobbered things; whether I added a option which loaded bad firmware, or 3.7.0 is broken, I have no idea. It could well be something unrelated to 3.7.0. My goal for today is to try to get keyboard and disk working, then boot with 3.6.8. Whatever you think of logic, it is entirely illogical that a kernel could kill your BIOS, or any hardware ... at least, just booting into it. The southbridge is a good thing to look at, esp for a burned spot/pit. My suggestion is http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage That's what I've been using. But the hardware failure is illogical too; why would USB and SATA fail at the same time? Or why would southbridge fail when it had been running perfectly fine? I don't really think it was 3.7.0, but who knows, did I answer some config question incorrectly and tell it to load some firmware? Without access to the disk, I can't tell. I don't remember any question about loading BIOS firmware, and can't see why the kernel would even care about that. The whole mess makes no sense. -- Felix Finch, a la mode
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt? Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or the rescue DVD would take over. Yes, your southbridge chipset could just happened to have failed at the same time; or it failed on the reboot; or USB and SATA are both on the southbridge that failed so you lost both, basically. Then my natural naive question is, can this be readily replaced, or is it soldered in and/or obsolete? It is about 8 years old. -- Felix Finch, a la mode
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.
I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it did. It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the hint, grab a clue, and start researching a replacement. -- Felix Finch, a la mode
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:53PM -0600, Dale wrote: I did some math, my new rig is almost 8 times faster/powerful than my old rig but pulls much less than half the power even when fully loaded. I might add, I think the old rig was idle when I measured that. My next box will be a commodity box. This one is a big tower because I wanted compute power for pictures I was generating, lots of them, and I wanted lots of storage room. Now with 4TB drives so cheap and USB 3 for speed, the storage can all be done by external drives, and I don't need the compute power any more. I do like building computers, in a way, but I don't like the idea of being rushed into building a replacement, and I don't need any custom features. A friend suggested a big lightning storm a month ago might have temporarily scrambled something. It tripped breakers in the house and blew out a battery in the standby generator shed, but I've rebooted twice since that storm without any problems. I guess it will remain a mystery. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] backing up system files
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 03:29:58PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: My recently-built machine has an SSD for everyday storage + an HDD for less often used stuff + back-ups (in dir /y ). To avoid having to re-install the system if the SSD collapses one day, I wanted to make a simple back-up copy of vital files on the HDD. I recently installed an SSD to replace three SCSI drives and changed my backup at the same time to work llike this. But I just do everything except /home, /encfs, the mail spool dir, etc. I also use a spare IDE drive for a system backup which I manually rsync before a big emerge, so I can boot the backup if the main system no longer boots due to emerge screwup. I have some other changes to make before testing this. What I haven't figured out yet is how to reverse rsync the backup to the main system. Rsync has no --source-is-always-right option that I could find. cp -a might work, with a little care for /dev etc, but it won't delete destination files which aren't in the backup, and the idea of reformatting the system partition as part of this seems a bit extreme when rsync is the natural choice for restoring the backup. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:02:23AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - any other effects? I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap ^^ heavily at times which slows things down ... so I am thinking a small ssd might help here. you know what helps even more? replacing those 4g with 8g. Not when it's maxed at 4g. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] Creating KVM image using existing gentoo partition
Got a new laptop at work,, running Linux instead of Mac, yay! Unfortunately, it comes with Ubuntu installed, boo! But I split the 500GB drive into two parts, began a gentoo install in the second half, and now I am stalled. The main purpose of the laptop is to run Centos 6.2 in a KVM image so it can simulate production as much as possible. As much as I dislike Ubuntu, I really only use it for terminals, Emacs, and Firefox. I ssh into the Centos image for all that stuff. I'd love to switch Ubuntu to gentoo and set up my usual fvwm etc instead of that awful Unity. Unfortunately, because I have to leave that Centos image running as much as possible, I can't take the time to reboot into the gentoo partition to finish the install, not even on weekends or evenings. It was ok getting the initial gentoo install started, but that was only an hour or two. I can't take the time for a real install, there's work to do. So it occurred to me it would be great to create a new KVM image using the gentoo partition as is for its file system, instead of creating one out of a file as it did for the Centos image. But I don't see any obvious options to do that. This is my first time with KVM, and someone else set up the Centos image using some GUI wizard. Here be my scurvy dog question(s): Is it possible to create a KVM image using an existing gentoo partition (/dev/sda3) for the filesystem, such that once I get the gentoo install finished, I can boot directly to the gentoo partition and not have to purify it or sanitize it after KVM has meddled with it? (and how do I do this? :-) If not, seems like the simplest workaround would be to create a KVM image from scratch and do a complete install there, then use cp, tar, cpio, or something similar to copy everything over to the real partition. But that sounds ugly for some reason. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating KVM image using existing gentoo partition
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:40:32AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Just bite the bullet, shut the machine down and do the install properly - you know you need to do it. I can't quite fathom why you think a laptop of all things must be on 24/7. if that were true, it would be a server in your data center surely? Are you real completely 100% certain that out of 168 hours a week you can't spare 2 to get your tools in order? It's good you know so much about my job and work requirements, means I needn't waste more time educating on them. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk
Dale wrote: Howdy, I was doing a update a while back and noticed a ewarn, enotice or something going by. I used the elogviewer to go back and dig it out. This is what it says: Found sources for kernel version: 3.5.0-gentoo Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... ERROR (setup) CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. WARN (setup) udisks will work without that, but if you try to safely unplug a USB stick or other USB storage device, an error will occur because udisks is unable to power off the device before unplugging. The option is not required for its essential functionality, but it's definitely useful and does not add any big overhead to the kernel, so I always enable it and would recommend enabling it unless you have a strong reason not to set it. Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. Failure to do so may cause unexpected problems. So, I go into the kernel's menuconfig and find this: │ CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: │ │ │ │ If you say Y here, you can use driver calls or the sysfs │ │ power/control file to enable or disable autosuspend for │ │ individual USB peripherals (see │ │ Documentation/usb/power-management.txt for more details). │ │ │ │ Also, USB remote wakeup signaling is supported, whereby some │ │ USB devices (like keyboards and network adapters) can wake up │ │ their parent hub. That wakeup cascades up the USB tree, and │ │ could wake the system from states like suspend-to-RAM. │ │ │ │ If you are unsure about this, say N here. │ This message is on a lot of important stuff, it just means you will be able to use USB (at least on *some* machines) without enabling it. As soon as you have any reason to set it or know what it does, this recommendation is superfluous. Only take care if the help message says something like: * This is usually not needed, so if unsure, say no * This is highly experimental, ... * only set this as module ... * Do not enable unless ... In such cases, you should be sure what you are doing and usually no ebuild would require options like that. │ │ │ Symbol: USB_SUSPEND [=n] │ │ Type : boolean │ │ Prompt: USB runtime power management (autosuspend) and wakeup │ │ Defined at drivers/usb/core/Kconfig:41 │ │ Depends on: USB_SUPPORT [=y] USB [=y] PM_RUNTIME [=y] │ │ Location: │ │ - Device Drivers │ │ - USB support (USB_SUPPORT [=y]) │ │ - Support for Host-side USB (USB [=y]) The important part is about 'if you are unsure about this, say N here'. Well, I don't think I need USB remote wakeup or anything so I don't think I need this but at the same time, udisk is giving me notice that it should be there. This is a desktop system not a laptop. Do I need to listen to me not needing it or udisk that says I do? This option is only USB relevant and can be used on any laptop / desktop system / whatever with USB support. Opinions? Dale :-) :-) P. S. The only things I have USB right now is my printer and a camera. I may have a UPS added to that when I get around to rebooting again. I'm not sure on how I will end up connecting it yet. In case you have no USB sticks and never want to use any USB storage device, you won't need udisks at all, try disabling the udisks USE flags on your desktop packages (esp. gvfs). Regards, Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I determine the processor type? -- grub2 comments
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 01:05:41AM -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 09/15/2012 12:28 AM, Dale wrote: Put your kernel and such on /boot and run update-grub if I recall correctly. I installed Kubuntu for my brother and it has grub2 which has some magic sprinkled on it. I'm not sure how to tell it where to point for the root partition tho. That may require a thread here if google doesn't help. I might add, you may get better Ubuntu answers here than from the Ubuntu folks. I'll forgive you if everyone else will. ROFL Dale :-) :-) grub2 is a completely rewritten animal, so it is *different* grub2-install /dev/sd?? is the incantation to put grub2 onto the selected boot partition. Then editor /etc/default/grub grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg I figure I have to keep the existing Ubuntu install happy for a couple of weeks. This is a work laptop and the Ubuntu side is productive right now, so gentoo is my spare time conversion, and only after I have it doing everything the Ubuntu install does, can I muck up Ubuntu. It also is a handy reference if I get in a gentoo corner, like setting up X or KVM. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] How do I determine the processor type?
I have a shiny new System76 laptop with a 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor (2.60GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading). It comes with Ubuntu, so naturally my first move was to split the Ubuntu partition in half and install gentoo. I will say no more about my first experiences with Unity. The Ubunto uname -a says 3.2.0-30-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 24 16:52:48 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux. I installed the latest stage3 tarball and set up make.conf as ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu When I try to compile gentoo-sources-3.5.3, it tells me scripts/mod/empty.c:1:0: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set My home system is dual Athlon, ancient, and ~amd64.. I haven't kept track of all the Intel processors, but the kernel config doesn't have many choices. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I determine the processor type?
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:45:51AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I have a shiny new System76 laptop with a 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor (2.60GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading). It comes with Ubuntu, so naturally my first move was to split the Ubuntu partition in half and install gentoo. I will say no more about my first experiences with Unity. The Ubunto uname -a says 3.2.0-30-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 24 16:52:48 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Take note - it's a x86_64 host environment. I installed the latest stage3 tarball and set up make.conf as Which stage3 tarball exactly? Maybe that's part of my confusion -- I was following the x86 handbook, not amd64, because it's not amd. But if amd64 should be used for all 64 bit installs, that's probably my problem. As for the exact stage3 tarball, the ftp choice was gentoo/releases/x86/current-stage3. This was about Sep 10. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I determine the processor type?
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 01:26:41AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:45:51AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I have a shiny new System76 laptop with a 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor (2.60GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading). It comes with Ubuntu, so naturally my first move was to split the Ubuntu partition in half and install gentoo. I will say no more about my first experiences with Unity. The Ubunto uname -a says 3.2.0-30-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 24 16:52:48 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Take note - it's a x86_64 host environment. I installed the latest stage3 tarball and set up make.conf as Which stage3 tarball exactly? Maybe that's part of my confusion -- I was following the x86 handbook, not amd64, because it's not amd. But if amd64 should be used for all 64 bit installs, that's probably my problem. As for the exact stage3 tarball, the ftp choice was gentoo/releases/x86/current-stage3. This was about Sep 10. It will work if you chroot as described in my previous message. linux32 is a symlink to setarch so you can read the setarch manpage if you're curious as to why it is necessary. Still, unless you have a particular reason not to avoid using an amd64 stage tarball, I'd suggest starting over with one. Nope, just ignorance, thinking that amd64 shouldn't be used with an intel processor. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I determine the processor type?
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 09:42:42PM -0500, Dale wrote: From my understanding, someone correct me if I am off here, AMD sort of beat Intel to the 64 bit thing. So, it sort of got named amd64 even tho Intel came along later on and the name just stuck. That's a very short version of the story and I think that is how it went but someone may come along and correct something. I sort of knew that, but I haven't kept up with all the processor names, and linux the kernel merged x86 and amd64 in some fashion, or was it x86 and x86_64? /usr/src/linux/arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage is a symlink to the x86. It's all very confusing, and one of the gentoo docs says iCore2 is Xeon, so what do I know about iCore7? Kernel compile finished, 16 minutes (SSD sure speeds it up). I'll finish the setup tomorrow. At some point I have to figure out where Ubuntu hides the boot config so I can add an entry for the gentoo install. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?
Mouse-to-mouse resuscitation? Unless it's headless. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:05:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: I have a couple MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller devices I picked up from Newegg a couple years back. They work beautifully. It came, I installed it, it shows a BIOS page on reboot, and lspci knows about it. However, the two drives on it are unrecognized. Does this require some specific kernel options or modules or firmware? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:57:20AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:05:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: I have a couple MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller devices I picked up from Newegg a couple years back. They work beautifully. It came, I installed it, it shows a BIOS page on reboot, and lspci knows about it. However, the two drives on it are unrecognized. Does this require some specific kernel options or modules or firmware? Aiieee! For some reason, my kernel has every SATA driver configured EXCEPT sata_mv. I'll report back in a while -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:45:27AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: Aiieee! For some reason, my kernel has every SATA driver configured EXCEPT sata_mv. I'll report back in a while That did it. I now have 8TB of new drive to play with. Thanks for the card recommendation and all the patience :-) -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv
Got my two 4TB drives installed. Now I need to get stuff off /dev/hda so I can turn it into an LVM volumne. So I copied everything there to the the 7.3TB LVM filesystem, then tried to create a new pv on /dev/hda1. No joy. I get Device /dev/hda1 not found (or ignored by filtering). /dev/hda has only /dev/hda1 which takes all the space. The partition type is 8e, Linux LVM. It's not mounted. I tried pvcreate -f. I tried dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 count=1. What is pvcreate really complaining about? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:56:58PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: fe...@crowfix.com wrote: Got my two 4TB drives installed. Now I need to get stuff off /dev/hda so I can turn it into an LVM volumne. So I copied everything there to the the 7.3TB LVM filesystem, then tried to create a new pv on /dev/hda1. No joy. I get Device /dev/hda1 not found (or ignored by filtering). /dev/hda has only /dev/hda1 which takes all the space. The partition type is 8e, Linux LVM. It's not mounted. I tried pvcreate -f. I tried dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 count=1. What is pvcreate really complaining about? How come its hda? Perhaps this is the problem, it certainly should be fixed anyway. Because it was set up that way 8 years ago. /dev/hda is the only IDE drive in the system, and has the MBR, so I can't make /dev/hda an LVM volume, it has to be /dev/hda1. I don't want to make some other drive the boot drive; they are LVM volumes also. And I also want an hd(0,x) for grub which doesn't change as I add new drives. Besides all that, why do you think it's a problem and how do you propose fixing it? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:05:40AM +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote: What active 'filter = ' lines do you currently have in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf? Does it have something like 'r|/dev/hd.*' in it to hide all the IDE devices from LVM? Ah geez, yet more LVM lore I have long since forgotten from lack of use. I didn't see it in 'man pvcreate' and had other things to do for the time being. I guess LVM is not like a bicycle.. Yes it does. Thanks. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 08:13:54PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: ...I don't know, but I think you ought to burn in those drives before you move all of your data onto them. One good way might be to create, damage and rebuild a raid5 volume on them. They're at the high risk period of their lifetime, and you don't want them to fail once you've got data on them. I don't have much data at all for them yet. My plan is to gradually fill them, and have two sets of USB backups in the fire safe. It may take years to fill them, so the USB backups will start small and gradually expand as necessary. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:02:42PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: If they are serial ata drives, I thought newer kernels would use /dev/sda etc. Is this really a ide drive? Or do you have the BIOS pretend they are? Please gve me a little credit. I can screw up lots of things and forget lots of things, but this drive is a replacement for a drive so old that it is labeled IDE, not PATA, it has that awful big flat ribbon, and there are two IDE connectors on the main board (which is old enough to be called a mother board), and there were two IDE DVD drives on there also, in fact hiding the IDE drive so that I had to trace cables to find it. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
I need to get a PCI-X SATA card. Two drives is fine, or 8, even tho I can't fit 8 drives in the box. This is for bulk storage, so I don't mind if it can only handle 100 Mhz or even less. My mainboard can't go over 133 Mhz. They are 64 bit 3.3v slots. One thing I don't want is RAID; I will be using LVM to roll my own. But if a RAID card can handle dissimilar drives in a non-RAID fashion, that's fine by me. Running ~amd64. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:05:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: I have a couple MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller devices I picked up from Newegg a couple years back. They work beautifully. They were marked as RAID cards, but it's software raid, and I only wanted them as AHCI SATA controllers anyhow. As it happens, they work in PCI slots as well as PCI-X slots. Hmmm ... that's one I bookmarked, but I am curious how they claim 8 port when it only has three connectors? Newegg's pictures aren't clear enough for me to figure that out. Is it two on the back and three doublt-ports on the front? How well do they work? I suppose must be good enough to recommend it :-) Do you actually have 8 drives connected to one? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:32:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: There are three modules on one side of the PCB. Each module has two SATA ports. There are two modules on the flip side that each have only one SATA port. So, that's 3x2+2, or 8. How easy is it to connect to cables in one of the doubles? My tower is pretty full, but some of that is 3 SCSI drives, and I may at some point change all three to a single SSD drive and put in two more 4T drives. The reason I'm only using 3? This system doesn't have PCI-X, only PCIe and PCI. So I want as much as reasonable plugged into the mainboard's SATA ports. Why not use the PCIe slots for SATA to get more speed? I suppose you could just want bulk where speed is not essential, or they could be full -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 07:00:01PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: How easy is it to connect to cables in one of the doubles? ..two... Botched that one! Well, doesn't matter; I ordered one, and it is what it is. I reckon it must be possible, and I don't think I can get that many drives in the tower. I did look at another card which has two SATA connectors inside and two eSata, but I think USB 3 will be better, if I can find a good PCI-X USB 3 card. But that's for later, I don't need it yet. Thanks. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:49:48AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: A thought...if the system is old enough that it only has PCI and PCI-X (as opposed to PCIe), then it's definitely not going to have USB3. Perhaps putting attaching the USB3 enclosure to the system by way of a USB2 hub might work? No USB 3 on the motherboard. I tried a USB 3 enclosure but got zero response from Linux when plugging it in. Didn't even show up in /var/log/messages. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:43:41AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence. ?USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards compatible, but not on my system. Is the drive powered by USB, or an external power supply? USB3 supplies more power than USB2 was capable of, so if a USB3 device does not have an external power supply it probably won't be backwards compatible. Good question -- if it had a power supply, I would have used it, but I don't remember now if it did. Doubt I would have given it a second thought if it had no external power supply. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years ago, but is showing its age. I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence. USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards compatible, but not on my system. I put one of the drives into an old USB 2.0 enclosure, and while it was found and useable, it saw the size as 1.6TB. I can't get a USB 3.0 PCI card; there are PCI-e cards, but my system is PCI and PCI-X. I did get a SATA II PCI card (SATA III requires PCI-e), but won't get a chance to plug it in for a few days. I'm hoping it will let me use the 4T drives. Does anyone know of any verified cheap tricks to make this old system recognize the 4TB drives properly? I'm not interested in any NAS or other expensive solutions; I'd just as soon buy a cheap modern system and lots of USB 3.0 disk enclosures. But I'd rather not go that route yet. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:35:03PM +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: 32bit or 64 bit system? Dual opteron, ~amd64. Kernel options for large file systems? Yes. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. Have you updated the BIOS to the latest available version? No, didn't even think about that. I've never upgraded BIOS an any of my systems. It's a Tyan S2882 Thunder K8S Pro. Guess I'll google for that. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 06:11:31AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. Have you updated the BIOS to the latest available version? No, didn't even think about that. I've never upgraded BIOS an any of my systems. It's a Tyan S2882 Thunder K8S Pro. Guess I'll google for that. Found a Tyan page for my motherboard. Didn't see any obvious fixes for SATA size. I also don't remember my BIOS version, I'll have to check that. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 06:59:13AM -0700, walt wrote: On 06/17/2012 11:16 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence. By 'system' do you mean the BIOS, or the kernel driver? I plugged them into the USB after boot, so it's the kernel. I didn't try booting with them. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:12:35PM +0200, pk wrote: On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. This is a bit confusing. Do you mean to say that these are 4TB internal drives (3.5)? I can't find any manufacturer that manufactures this size (yet)... Or is it 2x 2TB harddrives in a USB3 enclosure? There are plenty of those it seems from Seagate, Western digital etc... Hitachi, I think. Fry's had two choies differing in size of cache (64M vs 32M) and some 3TB drives too. I could get the model numbers when I get back to that system (not near it for a few days). I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence. USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards compatible, but not on my system. If possible try a BIOS upgrade... if not you can always try this (no guarantees though): http://www.addonics.com/products/ad2u3pci.php Interesting ... Cheap enough to be worth trying. Thanks. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:24:58AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. This is a bit confusing. Do you mean to say that these are 4TB internal drives (3.5)? I can't find any manufacturer that manufactures this size (yet)... Or is it 2x 2TB harddrives in a USB3 enclosure? There are plenty of those it seems from Seagate, Western digital etc... http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DX000/dp/B005WX3NEU/ Seagate Barracuda 7200 4 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 128MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive It does bring to mind a question...when I went to put SATAII drives in a SATA box, I needed to flip a jumper on the drive so that it would operate at 1.5Gb/s instead of 3Gb/s. Felix, did you follow any analogous steps for the 4TB drives? I don't remember seeing any jumpers at all. I'll take another look when I get back there. (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my aggregate volumes.) I remember buying a 330MB ATA drive for $300 and being amazed it was less than $1/MB. These were $299 at Fry's, 10 cents per GB. Don't know what I'll do with 8TB but I am sure it will fill up sooner rather than later. If nothing else, I'll snapshot the system files every night and take a year to fill it up. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:48:09PM +0200, pk wrote: That would be a possibility of course... but if that fails he also have this option: http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcix.htm (I'm sure there are similar options from other manufacturers)... My google-fu is deteriorating. I didn't see this or the USB 3.0 PCI card, everything was for PCI-e. This motherboard has some weird mixture of PCI and PXI-X slots. Don't remember the tricks right now, but I can't put a good graphics card in it without slowing down the SCSI drives, I think. Since it's a server mostly, that doesn't matter, but I'll have to refresh my memory before getting this card. Thanks for the lead. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:45:28PM +0200, pk wrote: Will you be using these (huge!) drives as boot drives or merely as storage? If the latter and you're really desperate (haven't tried this myself) there should be an option to turn off the automatic discovery of drives in the BIOS and (possibly) let the kernel discover them (again haven't tried it but I don't see why you can't hotswap the drives without BIOS aid)... Just storage. Currently my bulk storage is two 300GB SATA drives, about 90% full, so I figured an upgrade was in order. I poked around the BIOS screens and don' remember any way to turn off discovery. But I'll check again, since I hadn't been looking for that specific possibility. Also, this is an advanced format drive that emulates 512-byte sectors so there may be some fiddling before getting it right: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/ I replaced a failing PATA (nee IDE) drive at the same time, which is what triggered this whole mess, and notice that fdisk now defaults the start sector to 2048 insyead of 63, presumably for the same reason. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:46:15PM -0700, walt wrote: On 06/18/2012 07:28 AM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 06:59:13AM -0700, walt wrote: On 06/17/2012 11:16 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence. By 'system' do you mean the BIOS, or the kernel driver? I plugged them into the USB after boot, so it's the kernel. I didn't try booting with them. I have an outboard usb3 docking station that needs the xhci driver. Do you have that driver enabled? Maybe one of the many rescue/install CD's will recognize the drive/enclosure combination? Compiled as a module, and not loaded. Hadn't thought of that. I'll try it when I get back there. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] fuse-encfs and decoding single filenames
I have a failing disk drive which has a fuse-encfs filesystem. I am copying data off the drive before it completely croaks, and a few of the encrypted files have errors. I also have a full backup, so I don't expect to lose much if anything, but I wonder if there is some way to get fuse-encfs to decrypt a single filename for me, so I can find out which plaintext files may have been garbled. I can probably find out by trial and error, but a simple command line translation would be nice. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only -- DISK FAILURE
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:33:48AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I have been using encfs to store most of my home dir for ages. I rebooted
Sunday morning (it's a ~amd64 system) to change kernel to 3.3.5 from 3.3.4,
and sometime overnight, after the nightly backups and mail archives had run,
the encfs mounted partition became read-only. I know the timing only by the
cron jobs; the nightly mail backup moves files from the /home partition to
the encfs partition, and it had not failed. I unmounted the encfs partition,
remounted, and it was read-only right from the get go.
It's a failing disk drive:
May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600747] hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 {
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600759] hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=94761183, sector=94761183
May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600788] hda: possibly failed opcode: 0x25
May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600794] end_request: I/O error, dev hda,
sector 94761183
May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600835] REISERFS error (device hda5):
vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat
data of [2511 633054 0x0 SD]
May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600840] REISERFS (device hda5): Remounting
filesystem read-only
May 15 03:30:31 kernel: [80224.859713] hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 {
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
There are no errors in /var/log/messages of any sort since the 3.3.5 boot.
The mount command showed both the encfs partition and the underlying regular
partition as rw, not ro.
I didn't see it the first time because I rebooted twice and only looked since
the second reboot, after spending a while googling for hints and forgetting
about the double reboot.
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Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com
GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933
I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only
I have been using encfs to store most of my home dir for ages. I rebooted Sunday morning (it's a ~amd64 system) to change kernel to 3.3.5 from 3.3.4, and sometime overnight, after the nightly backups and mail archives had run, the encfs mounted partition became read-only. I know the timing only by the cron jobs; the nightly mail backup moves files from the /home partition to the encfs partition, and it had not failed. I unmounted the encfs partition, remounted, and it was read-only right from the get go. There are no errors in /var/log/messages of any sort since the 3.3.5 boot. The mount command showed both the encfs partition and the underlying regular partition as rw, not ro. I just now rebooted back to 3.3.4, and it's read-write, but so was 3.3.5 at the beginning, and for at least 20 hours. I do not know if the read-only switch was from a time delay, from some activity, from the kernel change, or some other package. If it lasts a day or two without switching to read-only, I will try 3.3.5 again. I am going to set up a screen session to check the rw capability every minute, to see if pinning down the time helps any with the log file. Does anyone know of any package changes that would have caused this? Neither google nor the gentoo bug search found anything interesting for encfs or fuser. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 04:11:20PM +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: If I remember correctly, EncFS is not a file system on it's own, it's more like an addon to any other file system. So maybe the problem is not with EncFS, but the underlaying file system. A wild guess would be that the underlaying filesystem of your EncFS partition is ext2/3/4 and has run out of inodes? You can check the inode count with 'df -i' This happend to me once, but I cannot remember if the file system then was mounted readonly or there were 'out-of-space' error messages. It's a reiserfs, and df -i shows zeroes; I had never given any thought to reiserfs and inodes. Interesting. If that does not help, try to fsck your EncFS partition. Unmount first. I may try that later. What puzzles me is that remounting without reboot still came up read-only, even tho it had been read-write for 20 hours, and reboot came up read-write. I wonder if some timeout feature was added to encfs or fuser, such that if there is no activity for a certain time, it becomes read-only. I didn't see any such change in any release notes. My little screen jobis still creating files every minute, and will defeat any such timeout, so there's something else to investigate later. encfs was last emerged 14 March. fuser was last emerged 23 Apr. I have rebooted several times since then, so I don't think either of them had any sudden surprises left. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
