Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-23 Thread Spackman, Chris
On 2021/12/21 at 07:17pm, Wols Lists wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 18:49, Spackman, Chris wrote:

> > 2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
> >  for me, the defaults work fine.
> 
> The problem is 2b. For me, it's an extremely simple case of "I gave you 
> a dot ts file, I want a dot ts file back".
> 
> The act of importing the ts file into the project seems to throw that 
> information away. I know a .ts is some sort of a container, with streams 
> and whatnot, but I don't have a clue what's in it. Why should I?
> 
> All I know is I want to end up with EXACTLY the same sort of file I 
> started with, and this seems exactly what most video editors don't have 
> a clue how to do!
> 
> (Like a word .docx - I don't give a monkeys what's inside it, I don't 
> need to, word takes care of all that. Why can't any half-decent video 
> editor do the same?)
> 
> And yes, I have tried. You're hearing the screams of frustration from 
> countless failed attempts.

Video files are certainly horribly complex. I promise I am no expert at
all, but I have been fooling with them for decades, so I suppose I
probably know a lot more than I realize, and more than most people who
haven't been at it that long.

I think the problem is that the files have both a container and a
format. Matroska, if i understand correctly, is a container. It could
hold video, audio, and even subtitles, in any of several formats.

This is unlike a DOCX file, for example, which is always a zip file with
xml (and other) files in expected formats. The closest to the situation
you are seeing is if MS Office opened an ODT file (from LibreOffice) and
always saved it - without asking - as a DOCX file.

Even more out there would be if LO would accept ODT files that were
tarred and gzipped instead of just plain zipped and that also could have
html, markdown, or org formats instead of xml inside the tar.gz
file. (that would an interesting world, i think)

I hadn't realized it until you brought it up, but it is odd that so many
video programs don't have a "save in the same format as the original"
option. I'm sure ffmpeg can probably do it easily, but then we're back
to the original issues with trying to get the cutting lined up neatly.

Good luck.

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ESL Coordinator The Graham Family of Schools
ESL EducatorColumbus State Community College
Japan Exchange and Teaching Program   Wajima, Ishikawa 1995-1998
Linux user since 1998 Linux User #137532




Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:37:32 +, Michael wrote:

> > Note that some editing software can only cut at the iframes, and it's
> > also fairly common to only be able to cut at the iframes unless it's
> > re-encoding the data.  That can be a major source of frustration.  
>  
> > LMP  
> 
> Yes, I've noticed this with kdenlive and from what I recall from years
> ago, avidemux too.  I can't recall if there was some GUI option to
> change this - I never found it.

Avidemux can cut anywhere, but then you have to reencode the portions
around the cuts, but not the whole thing.Avidemux is a bit limited and
old fashioned looking, but the one thing it is particularly good at is
quickly removing portions of videos. For anything more adventurous, I'd
probably use Openshot.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-22 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 21 December 2021 22:32:14 GMT Laurence Perkins wrote:
> >>
> >>From: Wols Lists  

> >>Oh - and as for using the command line, it's all very well until you try
> >>and figure out where to tell the command line to cut the video file - I
> >>really don't want to have to run the command line hundreds of times,
> >>checking the output every time, and throwing away the ones that cut in
> >>the wrong place. Oh, and if I use some video editing software to find the
> >>exact millisecond I want to cut, it STILL cuts it in completely the wrong
> >>place ...
 
> >>Cheers,
> >>Wol
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> Note that some editing software can only cut at the iframes, and it's also
> fairly common to only be able to cut at the iframes unless it's re-encoding
> the data.  That can be a major source of frustration.
 
> LMP

Yes, I've noticed this with kdenlive and from what I recall from years ago, 
avidemux too.  I can't recall if there was some GUI option to change this - I 
never found it.

I use mpv to identify the exact timestamp where I want to make a cut and then 
tell ffmpeg to do so.  Whether I transcode any/all streams, or remux to a 
different container at the same time, ffmpeg just works, but the process takes 
more than point 'n click.  I'll give openshot a ... shot one day to see if it 
is more user friendly.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Laurence Perkins
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Wols Lists  
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 2:03 PM
>>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware
>>
>>On 21/12/2021 19:16, Dale wrote:
>>> Spackman, Chris wrote:
>>>> On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:
>>>>> On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick 
>>>>>>> edit of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of 
>>>>>>> the middle?)
>>>>>> I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked 
>>>>>> for some reason.
>>>>>> As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then 
>>>>>> export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" 
>>>>>> is only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't 
>>>>>> even save the project for just some simple trimming.
>>>>   
>>>>> It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.
>>>>>
>>>>> For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
>>>>> hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
>>>>> That's why we want something dummy-proof!
>>>> Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially 
>>>> considering we've already discussed several command line programs in 
>>>> this thread.
>>>>
>>>> To export:
>>>>
>>>> 1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
>>>> Export Project => Export Video);
>>>>
>>>> 2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
>>>>  pops up;
>>>>
>>>> 2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
>>>>  for me, the defaults work fine.
>>>>
>>>> I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the 
>>>> accuracy for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want 
>>>> something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind 
>>>> and do what you want, somehow, automagically.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can 
>>> understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar 
>>> to 'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the 
>>> book.  At one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the 
>>> beginning and about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, 
>>> still couldn't figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove 
>>> something in the middle as well or add a second or so of black screen.  
>>> O_O
>>> 
>>> This coming from someone who was able to figure out Kicad and get 
>>> circuit boards made.  Just saying.  LOL
>>> 
>>Yup. This coming from someone who is quite happy with the command line 
>>because when he started THAT'S ALL THERE WAS. My work experience pre-dates 
>>the IBM PC - you know the one - the one with an 8088 inside...
>>
>>Oh - and as for using the command line, it's all very well until you try and 
>>figure out where to tell the command line to cut the video file - I really 
>>don't want to have to run the command line hundreds of times, checking the 
>>output every time, and throwing away the ones that cut in the wrong place. 
>>Oh, and if I use some video editing software to find the exact millisecond I 
>>want to cut, it STILL cuts it in completely the wrong place ...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Wol
>>
>>

Note that some editing software can only cut at the iframes, and it's also 
fairly common to only be able to cut at the iframes unless it's re-encoding the 
data.  That can be a major source of frustration.

LMP


Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Wols Lists

On 21/12/2021 19:16, Dale wrote:

Spackman, Chris wrote:

On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:

On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:

On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:

Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
some reason.
As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
the project for just some simple trimming.
  

It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.

For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into
hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.

Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-)
That's why we want something dummy-proof!

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
this thread.

To export:

1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
Export Project => Export Video);

2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
 pops up;

2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
 for me, the defaults work fine.

I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the accuracy
for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.

Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want
something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind and
do what you want, somehow, automagically.




As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
as well or add a second or so of black screen.  O_O

This coming from someone who was able to figure out Kicad and get
circuit boards made.  Just saying.  LOL

Yup. This coming from someone who is quite happy with the command line 
because when he started THAT'S ALL THERE WAS. My work experience 
pre-dates the IBM PC - you know the one - the one with an 8088 inside...


Oh - and as for using the command line, it's all very well until you try 
and figure out where to tell the command line to cut the video file - I 
really don't want to have to run the command line hundreds of times, 
checking the output every time, and throwing away the ones that cut in 
the wrong place. Oh, and if I use some video editing software to find 
the exact millisecond I want to cut, it STILL cuts it in completely the 
wrong place ...


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Wols Lists

On 21/12/2021 18:49, Spackman, Chris wrote:

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
this thread.

To export:

1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
Export Project => Export Video);

2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
 pops up;

2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
 for me, the defaults work fine.


The problem is 2b. For me, it's an extremely simple case of "I gave you 
a dot ts file, I want a dot ts file back".


The act of importing the ts file into the project seems to throw that 
information away. I know a .ts is some sort of a container, with streams 
and whatnot, but I don't have a clue what's in it. Why should I?


All I know is I want to end up with EXACTLY the same sort of file I 
started with, and this seems exactly what most video editors don't have 
a clue how to do!


(Like a word .docx - I don't give a monkeys what's inside it, I don't 
need to, word takes care of all that. Why can't any half-decent video 
editor do the same?)


And yes, I have tried. You're hearing the screams of frustration from 
countless failed attempts.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Dale
Spackman, Chris wrote:
> On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:
>> On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:
>>> On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
 Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
 a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)
>>> I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
>>> some reason.
>>> As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
>>> export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
>>> only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
>>> the project for just some simple trimming.
>  
>> It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.
>>
>> For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
>> hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.
>>
>> Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
>> That's why we want something dummy-proof!
> Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
> considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
> this thread. 
>
> To export:
>
> 1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
>Export Project => Export Video);
>
> 2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
> pops up;
>
> 2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
> for me, the defaults work fine.
>
> I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the accuracy
> for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.
>
> Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want
> something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind and
> do what you want, somehow, automagically.
>


As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
as well or add a second or so of black screen.  O_O 

This coming from someone who was able to figure out Kicad and get
circuit boards made.  Just saying.  LOL 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Spackman, Chris
On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:
> > On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
> >> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
> >> a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

> > I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
> > some reason.

> > As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
> > export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
> > only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
> > the project for just some simple trimming.
 
> It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.
> 
> For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
> hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.
> 
> Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
> That's why we want something dummy-proof!

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
this thread. 

To export:

1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
   Export Project => Export Video);

2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
pops up;

2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
for me, the defaults work fine.

I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the accuracy
for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.

Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want
something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind and
do what you want, somehow, automagically.

-- 
Chris Spackman (he / him)   ch...@osugisakae.com

ESL Coordinator The Graham Family of Schools
ESL EducatorColumbus State Community College
Japan Exchange and Teaching Program   Wajima, Ishikawa 1995-1998
Linux user since 1998 Linux User #137532




Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Wols Lists

On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:

On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:

Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
some reason.

As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
the project for just some simple trimming.



It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.

For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.


Been there done that!

Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
That's why we want something dummy-proof!


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 11:07:39 -0500, Spackman, Chris wrote:

> > Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit
> > of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the
> > middle?)  
> 
> I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
> some reason.

I considered mentioning it, but its a bit much for what the OP needed,
Avidemux is much simpler and faster.

I have used openshot for creating a video from multiple sources and found
it good for that. I had to add "media-video/openshot **" to
package.accept_keywords.


-- 
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... the rest is overhead for the operating system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Spackman, Chris
On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of 
> a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
some reason.

As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
the project for just some simple trimming.

Alternatively, there are sites that do video editing. I like veed.io
just because it can add and then translate subtitles (which I need for
my job), but I'm sure there are many others.

-- 
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ESOL CoordinatorThe Graham Family of Schools
ESL EducatorColumbus State Community College
Japan Exchange and Teaching Program   Wajima, Ishikawa 1995-1998
Linux user since 1998 Linux User #137532




Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-20 Thread Jigme Datse
On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 14:11:50 +0800
William Kenworthy  wrote:

> On 20/12/21 13:40, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > On 20/12/21 11:17 am, William Kenworthy wrote:  
> >> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick
> >> edit of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of
> >> the middle?)
> >>
> >> BillK
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >
> > How easy should it be? Won't ffmpeg allow you to do this type of
> > thing but you need to do a bit of work to get what you need - no
> > nice GUI?
> >
> > Andrew
> >  
> I am using ffmeg now to reduce the video size.  Its a Christmas
> message taken on a lumix camera that needs to be sent a few thousand
> km over what may be a flakey mobile link.  I just wanted something I
> can play a video, click on a point and delete everything before that.
>  Same at the end.  Looking at kdelive its a stupidly complex program
> that has a steep learning curve to do the above.
> 
> BillK
> 
> 
> 

The one thing if you are wanting to reduce video size, after getting
something that is the "just the right bits" video, send it as a HEVC
encoded video.  Generally it's h.264 once you have a "web" video, but I
have found I can reduce to 1/20 to 1/50 often taking that to HEVC for a
1080p video.  And...  You may not need/want it at that high a
resolution.



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-20 Thread Michael
On Monday, 20 December 2021 11:16:14 GMT Wols Lists wrote:
> On 20/12/2021 08:25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:55:15 +, Wols Lists wrote:
> >> With pretty much every bit of linux software I've found, I have to
> >> import my source into a project, make a meal of deleting the sections I
> >> don't want, and then I can't just "save a file", I have to tell the
> >> program loads of crap that I don't have a clue about, I just want my
> >> new file to be EXACTLY THE SAME as the original, just missing the bits
> >> I've deleted.
> > 
> > Avidemux works just like that, select the bits you don't want, delete
> > them, save using the copy codec, which does no transcoding.
> > 
> > Or you can use a different codec/bitrate/whatever if you also want to
> > reduce the size.
> 
> Ummm.
> 
> I don't know what the problem was, but I know I tried Avidemux, and it
> really didn't work for me. afair, it just got slower and slower, and was
> taking hours to save a file. Maybe a couple of days to save a 2hr video,
> that sort of thing ...
> 
> Cheers,
> Wol

kdenlive would be the same, IF you are transcoding the streams.  If you are 
just clipping sections, but copying over the same codecs and remuxing, it will 
be much faster.

I've tried various GUIs and found I was wasting more time learning how each 
application worked, than actually doing work.  So I reverted back to using 
ffmpeg on CLI.

ffmpeg -ss 00:03:00 -i input.mp4 -codec: copy -t 00:43:00 output.mp4

The above works a treat to clip start and end on a video and is fast.  If I 
need to clip many bits along the length of the video, e.g. removing adverts 
from a TV transmission, then I clip them separately and concatenate them as 
shown here:

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate

When I want to transcode streams I use hardware acceleration which is faster 
and cooler than burning CPU cycles, e.g.:

ffmpeg -hwaccel vaapi -vaapi_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -ss 00:04:12 -i
input.ts -vf format='nv12|vaapi,hwupload' -codec:v h264_vaapi -codec:a ac3 -t 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-20 Thread Wols Lists

On 20/12/2021 08:25, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:55:15 +, Wols Lists wrote:


With pretty much every bit of linux software I've found, I have to
import my source into a project, make a meal of deleting the sections I
don't want, and then I can't just "save a file", I have to tell the
program loads of crap that I don't have a clue about, I just want my
new file to be EXACTLY THE SAME as the original, just missing the bits
I've deleted.


Avidemux works just like that, select the bits you don't want, delete
them, save using the copy codec, which does no transcoding.

Or you can use a different codec/bitrate/whatever if you also want to
reduce the size.



Ummm.

I don't know what the problem was, but I know I tried Avidemux, and it 
really didn't work for me. afair, it just got slower and slower, and was 
taking hours to save a file. Maybe a couple of days to save a 2hr video, 
that sort of thing ...


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-20 Thread eric

On 12/20/21 1:13 AM, eric wrote:

On 12/20/21 12:55 AM, Wols Lists wrote:

On 20/12/2021 06:11, William Kenworthy wrote:


On 20/12/21 13:40, Andrew Lowe wrote:

On 20/12/21 11:17 am, William Kenworthy wrote:
Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick 
edit of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of 
the middle?)


BillK





How easy should it be? Won't ffmpeg allow you to do this type of 
thing but you need to do a bit of work to get what you need - no 
nice GUI?


Andrew

I am using ffmeg now to reduce the video size.  Its a Christmas 
message taken on a lumix camera that needs to be sent a few thousand 
km over what may be a flakey mobile link.  I just wanted something I 
can play a video, click on a point and delete everything before that. 
Same at the end.  Looking at kdelive its a stupidly complex program 
that has a steep learning curve to do the above.


I'm looking for the same. On my PVR I just create two chapter marks, 
and delete the section between the chapter marks.


With pretty much every bit of linux software I've found, I have to 
import my source into a project, make a meal of deleting the sections 
I don't want, and then I can't just "save a file", I have to tell the 
program loads of crap that I don't have a clue about, I just want my 
new file to be EXACTLY THE SAME as the original, just missing the bits 
I've deleted.


Most software works like that, why doesn't video editing software?

Cheers,
Wol



I have not tried this myself but has anyone tried "easycrop". It is a 
script that uses mpv to do the hard work.


https://github.com/aidanholm/mpv-easycrop



I spoke to soon. This script does not do what you are looking for. It 
just allows you to select a rectangular section of the screen and crops 
the rest. It does not allow you to remove sections of the video like the 
beginning few minutes.


Regards,

Eric



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 07:55:15 +, Wols Lists wrote:

> With pretty much every bit of linux software I've found, I have to 
> import my source into a project, make a meal of deleting the sections I 
> don't want, and then I can't just "save a file", I have to tell the 
> program loads of crap that I don't have a clue about, I just want my
> new file to be EXACTLY THE SAME as the original, just missing the bits
> I've deleted.

Avidemux works just like that, select the bits you don't want, delete
them, save using the copy codec, which does no transcoding.

Or you can use a different codec/bitrate/whatever if you also want to
reduce the size.


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-20 Thread eric

On 12/20/21 12:55 AM, Wols Lists wrote:

On 20/12/2021 06:11, William Kenworthy wrote:


On 20/12/21 13:40, Andrew Lowe wrote:

On 20/12/21 11:17 am, William Kenworthy wrote:
Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit 
of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the 
middle?)


BillK





How easy should it be? Won't ffmpeg allow you to do this type of 
thing but you need to do a bit of work to get what you need - no nice 
GUI?


Andrew

I am using ffmeg now to reduce the video size.  Its a Christmas 
message taken on a lumix camera that needs to be sent a few thousand 
km over what may be a flakey mobile link.  I just wanted something I 
can play a video, click on a point and delete everything before that.  
Same at the end.  Looking at kdelive its a stupidly complex program 
that has a steep learning curve to do the above.


I'm looking for the same. On my PVR I just create two chapter marks, and 
delete the section between the chapter marks.


With pretty much every bit of linux software I've found, I have to 
import my source into a project, make a meal of deleting the sections I 
don't want, and then I can't just "save a file", I have to tell the 
program loads of crap that I don't have a clue about, I just want my new 
file to be EXACTLY THE SAME as the original, just missing the bits I've 
deleted.


Most software works like that, why doesn't video editing software?

Cheers,
Wol



I have not tried this myself but has anyone tried "easycrop". It is a 
script that uses mpv to do the hard work.


https://github.com/aidanholm/mpv-easycrop

Regards,

Eric




Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-19 Thread Wols Lists

On 20/12/2021 06:11, William Kenworthy wrote:


On 20/12/21 13:40, Andrew Lowe wrote:

On 20/12/21 11:17 am, William Kenworthy wrote:
Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit 
of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)


BillK





How easy should it be? Won't ffmpeg allow you to do this type of thing 
but you need to do a bit of work to get what you need - no nice GUI?


Andrew

I am using ffmeg now to reduce the video size.  Its a Christmas message 
taken on a lumix camera that needs to be sent a few thousand km over 
what may be a flakey mobile link.  I just wanted something I can play a 
video, click on a point and delete everything before that.  Same at the 
end.  Looking at kdelive its a stupidly complex program that has a steep 
learning curve to do the above.


I'm looking for the same. On my PVR I just create two chapter marks, and 
delete the section between the chapter marks.


With pretty much every bit of linux software I've found, I have to 
import my source into a project, make a meal of deleting the sections I 
don't want, and then I can't just "save a file", I have to tell the 
program loads of crap that I don't have a clue about, I just want my new 
file to be EXACTLY THE SAME as the original, just missing the bits I've 
deleted.


Most software works like that, why doesn't video editing software?

Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-19 Thread William Kenworthy



On 20/12/21 13:40, Andrew Lowe wrote:

On 20/12/21 11:17 am, William Kenworthy wrote:
Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit 
of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)


BillK





How easy should it be? Won't ffmpeg allow you to do this type of thing 
but you need to do a bit of work to get what you need - no nice GUI?


Andrew

I am using ffmeg now to reduce the video size.  Its a Christmas message 
taken on a lumix camera that needs to be sent a few thousand km over 
what may be a flakey mobile link.  I just wanted something I can play a 
video, click on a point and delete everything before that.  Same at the 
end.  Looking at kdelive its a stupidly complex program that has a steep 
learning curve to do the above.


BillK





Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-19 Thread Andrew Lowe

On 20/12/21 11:17 am, William Kenworthy wrote:
Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of 
a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)


BillK





How easy should it be? Won't ffmpeg allow you to do this type of thing 
but you need to do a bit of work to get what you need - no nice GUI?


Andrew



[gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-19 Thread William Kenworthy
Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of 
a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)


BillK