[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-10 Thread James
Stuart Howard stuart.g.howard at gmail.com writes:


 All versions of the ATI driver are blocking xorg-server 1.3 at the
 moment so you are not going to get around that one easily.
 If you look at the --tree to find out what package is asking for the
 upgrade of xorg-server and then mask that? this may help.


Ok,

Thanks


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-10 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:27 +, James wrote:
 Stuart Howard stuart.g.howard at gmail.com writes:
 
 
  All versions of the ATI driver are blocking xorg-server 1.3 at the
  moment so you are not going to get around that one easily.
  If you look at the --tree to find out what package is asking for the
  upgrade of xorg-server and then mask that? this may help.
 
 
 Ok,

I just compiled xorg-server like this:

conf_opts=--with-release-major=7 --with-release-minor=2 emerge
xorg-server

and I use x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.36.5 from my overlay.

works fine.

see http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554798.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-09 Thread Stuart Howard

All versions of the ATI driver are blocking xorg-server 1.3 at the
moment so you are not going to get around that one easily.
If you look at the --tree to find out what package is asking for the
upgrade of xorg-server and then mask that? this may help.


On 08/05/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Stuart Howard stuart.g.howard at gmail.com writes:


 This link to the forum though I realise it is nvidia based it may give
 some further information the posts refer to a bug which further refers
 to another bug which is the ATI issue but the general point is there.

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-556528-highlight-nvidia+block.html


Hello Stuart,

Interesting reading. Here's what I currently used on my system:

x11-base/xorg-server  Installed versions:  1.1.1-r1

x11-drivers/ati-drivers   Installed versions:  8.35.5


This all works with my ATI 1900XT card (glx gears runs
on a full 22 inch widescreen (1680 x 1050) at 1800 FPS.
The little default 2x2 runs glxgears at 11,000 FPS.


This might explain why every permutaion of ati-drivers
and xorg-server that I entered into /etc/portage/package.mask
does not neutralize the request to upgrade xorg-server to 1.3.0.0

## I tried every permutation possible here, nothings masks
##the upgrade request so I can continue with routine upgrades
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r1
=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5


blocks B   x11-drivers/ati-drivers (
is blocking x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)

I did not glean from the discussion how to neutralize the erroneous
upgrade request so I can perform the other upgrades. Any ideas on that?



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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-08 Thread James
Stuart Howard stuart.g.howard at gmail.com writes:


 This link to the forum though I realise it is nvidia based it may give
 some further information the posts refer to a bug which further refers
 to another bug which is the ATI issue but the general point is there.

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-556528-highlight-nvidia+block.html


Hello Stuart,

Interesting reading. Here's what I currently used on my system:

x11-base/xorg-server  Installed versions:  1.1.1-r1

x11-drivers/ati-drivers   Installed versions:  8.35.5


This all works with my ATI 1900XT card (glx gears runs 
on a full 22 inch widescreen (1680 x 1050) at 1800 FPS.
The little default 2x2 runs glxgears at 11,000 FPS.


This might explain why every permutaion of ati-drivers
and xorg-server that I entered into /etc/portage/package.mask
does not neutralize the request to upgrade xorg-server to 1.3.0.0

## I tried every permutation possible here, nothings masks
##the upgrade request so I can continue with routine upgrades
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r1
=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.32.5


blocks B   x11-drivers/ati-drivers (
is blocking x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)

I did not glean from the discussion how to neutralize the erroneous
upgrade request so I can perform the other upgrades. Any ideas on that?



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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread Remy Blank
James wrote:
 blocks B  x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking 
 x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0)

That's because none of the current ati-drivers work with xorg-server-1.3.

 One thing that I as never really comfortable with is this make.conf
 entry that I ended up using shich I gleaned from several wikis:
 VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev fglrx vesa

This only means that the drivers for framebuffer, ati-drivers and vesa
will be built for xorg. In your case you have probably configured xorg
to use the ati-drivers (fglrx). It is a good idea to have the vesa
driver handy in case something breaks after an update. It allows you to
configure a slow but mostly working X11.

 I'm still using an older kernel, (2.6.18-gentoo-r6)
 so any advice on kernel versions  or options to use with this video 
 card are welcome.

From what I remember from bugs.gentoo.org, 2.6.19 should work fine with
all recent ati-drivers, whereas 2.6.20 seems to be problematic.

 Any advice on which 3D drivers options are now available for this 
 card or which version of ati-drivers I should install to keep
 xorg-server-1.3.0.0 happy are welcome. The only information I 
 can find googling is not current with these newer versions 
 of ati-drivers, 2.6.20+ kernels, 3D and xorg-server 1.3.

Stay away from xorg-server-1.3 and kernel-2.6.20 or later until ATI
releases new versions that work with them.

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread James
Remy Blank remy.blank at pobox.com writes:


 Stay away from xorg-server-1.3 and kernel-2.6.20 or later until ATI
 releases new versions that work with them.


This is what I was looking for. I do not stay on top of these issues,
and the system is working reasonable well right now. I just
cannot get the logitech joystick (game controller) to work with
this rig. It works on 4 other intel/ati systems, or athlon/nividia
based systems but those all use the radeon drivers or nvidia drivers.


Thanks for bringing me up to speed on these issues!



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server blocked by ati-drivers

2007-05-07 Thread Stuart Howard

This link to the forum though I realise it is nvidia based it may give
some further information the posts refer to a bug which further refers
to another bug which is the ATI issue but the general point is there.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-556528-highlight-nvidia+block.html

On 07/05/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Remy Blank remy.blank at pobox.com writes:


 Stay away from xorg-server-1.3 and kernel-2.6.20 or later until ATI
 releases new versions that work with them.


This is what I was looking for. I do not stay on top of these issues,
and the system is working reasonable well right now. I just
cannot get the logitech joystick (game controller) to work with
this rig. It works on 4 other intel/ati systems, or athlon/nividia
based systems but those all use the radeon drivers or nvidia drivers.


Thanks for bringing me up to speed on these issues!



James






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