Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 23:04, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 17.03.2014 22:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 17.03.2014 22:02, schrieb Poison BL.:

 I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular
 has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to
 magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC
 which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that
 usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or
 otherwise).

 I wget ubcd right now to that specific server.

 To understand that correctly:

 I can boot the VM from the ubcd.iso and run that script ... and somehow
 apply these fixes to the attached virtual hdd ?
 
 I booted from the ubcd.iso but the choices are too much right now, I
 couldn't find the mentioned Fix IDE or similar.
 
 I think you meant
 
 http://www.ubcd4win.com/contents.htm
 
 and not
 
 http://www.ultimatebootcd.com
 
 ?
 
 ... next download ahead

To close this topic: we installed a new VM, attached the old virtual
disks and migrated data ... plus restoring some stuff from tape.

No fix ide for me now.
I will try that for test purposes as soon as I find the time.

Thanks, Stefan




[gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Is it correct that vmware-server is out of portage?

I have to migrate and upgrade an old box again and it is running kernel
2.6.25 ... now I have 3.10.25 and realise that it won't compile/run
vmware-server ... *sigh*

So Plan B is migrating the VMs to KVM quickly ...

Thanks for pointers, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 17 March 2014 18:27:42 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:

Is it correct that vmware-server is out of portage?

I have to migrate and upgrade an old box again and it is running kernel
2.6.25 ... now I have 3.10.25 and realise that it won't compile/run
vmware-server ... *sigh*

So Plan B is migrating the VMs to KVM quickly ...

Thanks for pointers, Stefan

Not 100% sure, but I think vmware server got deprecated by VMWare themselves?

Got replaced by VMWare ESX.
Alternatives would be Xen or KVM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 17 March 2014 18:44:15 CET, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On 17 March 2014 18:27:42 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
wrote:

Is it correct that vmware-server is out of portage?

I have to migrate and upgrade an old box again and it is running
kernel
2.6.25 ... now I have 3.10.25 and realise that it won't compile/run
vmware-server ... *sigh*

So Plan B is migrating the VMs to KVM quickly ...

Thanks for pointers, Stefan

Not 100% sure, but I think vmware server got deprecated by VMWare
themselves?

Got replaced by VMWare ESX.
Alternatives would be Xen or KVM.

--
Joost

Yep, just checked wikipedia.
Got deprecated. Last version dates back to 2009.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 18:46, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 Yep, just checked wikipedia.
 Got deprecated. Last version dates back to 2009.

Yes, I also remember somehow ... so the evening will be spent with
installing KVM and migrating 2 VMs ... tmrw morning they expect the
services to run.

How I love mondays ... ;-)

thanks




Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 17 March 2014 18:48:56 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 17.03.2014 18:46, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 Yep, just checked wikipedia.
 Got deprecated. Last version dates back to 2009.

Yes, I also remember somehow ... so the evening will be spent with
installing KVM and migrating 2 VMs ... tmrw morning they expect the
services to run.

How I love mondays ... ;-)

thanks

Good luck.
Mondays are always fun for that.

I always prefer weekends for migrations like this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 18:53, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 Good luck.
 Mondays are always fun for that.
 
 I always prefer weekends for migrations like this.

I wasn't asked.
The motherboard and power supply were dead this morning.

And the customer had nothing else at hand ... so I had to plug the disks
into another new PC and get things going.

But new hardware needs a current kernel ... leading to all this.

Thanks, Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 17 March 2014 19:03:07 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 17.03.2014 18:53, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 Good luck.
 Mondays are always fun for that.
 
 I always prefer weekends for migrations like this.

I wasn't asked.
The motherboard and power supply were dead this morning.

And the customer had nothing else at hand ... so I had to plug the
disks
into another new PC and get things going.

But new hardware needs a current kernel ... leading to all this.

Thanks, Stefan

I know.
It usually comes at the least convenient moment.

I do think it's the customers' fault for not keeping up with normal maintenance 
schedules. Most companies write off hardware after 3-4 years.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 19:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 I know. It usually comes at the least convenient moment.
 
 I do think it's the customers' fault for not keeping up with normal
 maintenance schedules. Most companies write off hardware after 3-4
 years.

The support contract with the supplier ended in 2011 ... you know ...

But OK, I wanted them to do KVM anyway. I just have to invest this
evening ... in a way.

I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc
... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long.





Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, March 17, 2014 19:35, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Am 17.03.2014 19:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 I know. It usually comes at the least convenient moment.

 I do think it's the customers' fault for not keeping up with normal
 maintenance schedules. Most companies write off hardware after 3-4
 years.

 The support contract with the supplier ended in 2011 ... you know ...

Doesn't surprise me, to be honest...

 But OK, I wanted them to do KVM anyway. I just have to invest this
 evening ... in a way.

I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work
with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from
disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as
well.

 I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc
 ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long.

I don't think it should take very long. :)
But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and
replaced by KVM equivalents.

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 20:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work
 with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from
 disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as
 well.

I run KVM in combo with LVM snapshots for backups. RAM snapshots? Not
sure ...

 I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc
 ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long.
 
 I don't think it should take very long. :)
 But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and
 replaced by KVM equivalents.

I have the VMs now, but both are XP guests and therefore crashing
because the weren't prepared with something like MergeIDE ... :-(

*sigh*

Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without*
having a running VMware-Server?

S




Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 20:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without*
 having a running VMware-Server?

This link:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/FAQ#How_to_convert_VMware_machines_to_virt-manager.3F

says it should be possible to repair the VM by booting from the XP-iso
and chose Install  (yes, windows after all).

Can anyone confirm?

I don't have such an iso at hand and it's late here so I am gonna try
that at the customer tomorrow 

Thanks, sorry for being off topic here.

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 17 March 2014 20:52:29 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 17.03.2014 20:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots
work
 with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from
 disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory
as
 well.

I run KVM in combo with LVM snapshots for backups. RAM snapshots? Not
sure ...

 I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge
etc
 ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that
long.
 
 I don't think it should take very long. :)
 But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests
and
 replaced by KVM equivalents.

I have the VMs now, but both are XP guests and therefore crashing
because the weren't prepared with something like MergeIDE ... :-(

*sigh*

Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without*
having a running VMware-Server?

S

Try vmware player or vmware workstationon your own machine?

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 21:15, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without*
 having a running VMware-Server?
 
 Try vmware player or vmware workstationon your own machine?

... vmware-player and/or modules don't compile here on my latest kernel
3.13.x  I would have to downgrade etc etc etc 

enough for today, that's ~13hrs for this stuff already.

I will try that boot from XP cd trick tomorrow at the customer.

Thanks, Stefan






Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 17 March 2014 21:18:37 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 17.03.2014 21:15, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers
*without*
 having a running VMware-Server?
 
 Try vmware player or vmware workstationon your own machine?

... vmware-player and/or modules don't compile here on my latest kernel
3.13.x  I would have to downgrade etc etc etc 

enough for today, that's ~13hrs for this stuff already.

I will try that boot from XP cd trick tomorrow at the customer.

Thanks, Stefan

It's been a while since I used VMWare myself. Last time was on a MS Windows 
laptop.

Goid luck tomorrow. Might want to prepare migration of the software from XP to 
something newer. MS is cancelling support. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Poison BL.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
 Am 17.03.2014 20:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld:

 I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work
 with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from
 disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as
 well.

 I run KVM in combo with LVM snapshots for backups. RAM snapshots? Not
 sure ...

 I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc
 ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long.

 I don't think it should take very long. :)
 But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and
 replaced by KVM equivalents.

 I have the VMs now, but both are XP guests and therefore crashing
 because the weren't prepared with something like MergeIDE ... :-(

 *sigh*

 Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without*
 having a running VMware-Server?

 S

I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular
has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to
magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC
which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that
usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or
otherwise).

One thing I absolutely love about AHCI, while Windows 7 still binds to
hardware specific drivers in the long run, only having to change 2
registry values (start values in iastorv and msahci) is far, far,
easier than the mess XP had for hardware migrations ;)

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 22:02, schrieb Poison BL.:

 I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular
 has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to
 magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC
 which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that
 usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or
 otherwise).

I wget ubcd right now to that specific server.

To understand that correctly:

I can boot the VM from the ubcd.iso and run that script ... and somehow
apply these fixes to the attached virtual hdd ?

That sounds great ... :-)

Thanks for the hint and any additional details,

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?

2014-03-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.03.2014 22:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 17.03.2014 22:02, schrieb Poison BL.:
 
 I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular
 has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to
 magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC
 which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that
 usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or
 otherwise).
 
 I wget ubcd right now to that specific server.
 
 To understand that correctly:
 
 I can boot the VM from the ubcd.iso and run that script ... and somehow
 apply these fixes to the attached virtual hdd ?

I booted from the ubcd.iso but the choices are too much right now, I
couldn't find the mentioned Fix IDE or similar.

I think you meant

http://www.ubcd4win.com/contents.htm

and not

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com

?

... next download ahead