Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.comwrote: On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been a few years since I upgraded. I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio too. Don't have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very good machine under gentoo. -- Valmor I have the X200. I use it with 8GB of ram, so all compilation of Gentoo system and Catalyst is done on the ram. Really good. 8GB cost me on ebay 90$ ! The wifi works good, but again as Valmor said there is no cam on the laptop. I also don't have touch pad, just the red stick. I like it that way. The computer goes to sleep, but I didn't tried to hibernate. I have also the X60s and it is a bad laptop. It gets really hot, fairly quickly, and it is very annoying. About the wifi: take care that the wifi card can be changed, as it is a pcie card. So if the laptop seems to be good for the buck, and the wifi is not what you want, you can just buy one of the good wifi cards on ebay and replace it on your new laptop. This of course will void the warranty ;-) Other thing you should consider is the battery life. In my Thinkpad x60s I have upgraded the battery to a 12cell big one, and it lasts about 7-9 hours. Such a battery is hard to fine for other brands of laptops. You will usually find them for thinkpads, I guess because their made for work. I think it cost me about 60$ or so on ebay. Regards, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :) Hopefully this thread will be useful to other users. Cheers -Robin. -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:12:32 Robin Atwood wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :) I meant to say before, but one big advantage of my T61, now a couple of years old, is that I can disable that execrable touch-pad in the BIOS - much finer config control than I've had in a laptop before. Well done, anyway. Good luck with it. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:20:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :) Hopefully this thread will be useful to other users. Cheers -Robin. -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- Everything runs on the thinkpad, I even had mine running plan9 for awhile. :) -- /\ /\ \ / ^ 'v-v' caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
I have a Lenovo's Ideapad Z360 . He works fine except for haven't support of Optimus Technology on Linux. But the NVIDIA VGA can be deactivated in bios and the battery consuption are decreased. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) It's a great machine at all. Att
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:31:09PM +0100, Robin Atwood wrote I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. That would require the install CD to be psychic. I got an Acer Aspire working under Gentoo after an excellent adventure. See thread... http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/238950 I think that with Gentoo the problem is knowing which drivers to use. The only problem is to avoid machines with Poulsbo video chips at all costs. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:31:09PM +0100, Robin Atwood wrote I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. Lenovo Thinkpad T series works great. That would require the install CD to be psychic. I got an Acer Aspire working under Gentoo after an excellent adventure. See thread... http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/238950 I think that with Gentoo the problem is knowing which drivers to use. The only problem is to avoid machines with Poulsbo video chips at all costs. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
HP Probook 4710s just works. x86_64 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd (webcam) Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller ATI Technologies Inc M92 LP [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series] (x11-drivers/radeon-ucode and x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati) Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 436c On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:12 AM, kelly hirai kg...@fsu.edu wrote: thinkpad edge i5, intel gpu. x86_64 all good. On 03/30/11 14:31, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- -- Kevin Coetzee
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.netwrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin I bought a Gateway NV55C late last year, and Ubuntu went on without a hitch: sound, movies, webcam, wifi, ethernet, second monitor and all. The only thing to dislike is that the machine does not have an indicator LED for caps lock -- on Win 7 it uses an on-screen icon each time the status changes. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
At work, we've had a lot of success with Lenovo's. My T61p (3 years old) is fully supported by Linux - wireless included - according the documentations; I can't quite verify as I haven't been able to transition it (yet) to Linux. Colleagues haven't had issues with another model, but I'm not sure which it is off-hand. Ben From: Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 10:15:36 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin I bought a Gateway NV55C late last year, and Ubuntu went on without a hitch: sound, movies, webcam, wifi, ethernet, second monitor and all. The only thing to dislike is that the machine does not have an indicator LED for caps lock -- on Win 7 it uses an on-screen icon each time the status changes. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
I have an hp dv7-3085us. Everything on it worked fine with Linux out of the box. Webcam,bluetooth,wireless,audio, ect... Hibernation works great with tux on ice. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
my acer aspire 5740d has an ati card that works, a sunyin (or something) webcam that works, intel hda audio works (although i had to fight for the mic to work) and wifi works too (don't recall what card it has...) never tested hibernation or suspend though... D 2011/3/30 Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been a few years since I upgraded. -- caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
I got a Toshiba Qosmio F50 series. Camera wireless and sound work fine (actually after one kernel upgrade some months ago even the woofer suddenly worked). I have not ever bothered with the TV card that it is provided though but it won't be a problem I think.
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
My Acer Aspire One worked with very few modifications. Picked up my wifi card and usb camera (the one in the lid is actually usb), sound card and intel graphics driver (though I haven't yet tried X, only framebuffer, but I get framebuffer in 1024 by 768 on it). Touchpad works fine with gpm mouse driver. Bit of a cheapo netbook but if flies under gentoo, while it was pretty slow under windows. dual core intel Atom. just out of curiosity I also tried the the pixielive cd which runs X for the intel gma graphics chip and is based on gentoo - it gave me full native res with little or now slowdown - I think it uses the poulsbo driver (or some similar name), overall, installing gentoo was painless - the worst experience I had was trying to map my windows key to CTRL-A for use in screen, still haven't managed it! On 30 March 2011 19:31, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:31:09 +0100, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. If you want a UK supplier of laptops guaranteed to work with Linux, try http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk -- Neil Bothwick A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. \xA0-- Joseph Campbell signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been a few years since I upgraded. I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio too. Don't have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very good machine under gentoo. -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
My thinkpad w510 'just works.'
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
thinkpad edge i5, intel gpu. x86_64 all good. On 03/30/11 14:31, Robin Atwood wrote: I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a Linux Certified machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK. TIA -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling -- -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
