Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread James Ausmus
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote:

 Hi there,

 Upgrading some packages today I saw:

 Qt3 is deprecated and unsupported, both upstream and by the Gentoo Qt
 Project. x11-libs/qt:3 will be removed from portage soon. See

 http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_f988855f798764822704bbbd743ab6f7.xml
 You are encouraged to use Qt4 instead.

 However when I try to resolve this, I find that only 3.3 versions are
 marked as stable:

 $ eix x11-libs/qt$
 [I] x11-libs/qt
 Available versions:
(3) 3.3.8b-r1 3.3.8b-r2
(4) [M]4.5.3 [M]~4.6.1
{cups dbus debug doc examples firebird immqt immqt-bc ipv6 kde mysql
 nas nis odbc opengl postgres qt3support sqlite xinerama}
 Installed versions:  3.3.8b-r2(3)(14:05:56 10/02/10)(cups doc examples
 -debug -firebird -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -opengl
 -postgres -sqlite -xinerama)
 Homepage:http://qt.nokia.com/
 Description: The Qt toolkit is a comprehensive C++ application
 development framework

 $


 Is anyone else seeing this, please?

 The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right
 about NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to what I'm seeing.

 Thanks in advance for any comments,


It's monolithic vs. split ebuilds - Qt4 in Gentoo has gone to a modular
ebuild system - the monolithic Qt4 build is not supported.

Try:

eix -C x11-libs qt-


HTH-

James



 Stroller.





Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Stroller wrote:

because qt-VERSION is being phased out. You are supposed to use the split qt 
ebuilds. qt-VERSION is just a meta package.

And luckily, all qt-BLABLA-4.5.3 ebuilds are marked stable.

ALSO:
from the qt-4.5.3 ebuild:

KEYWORDS=~alpha amd64 arm hppa ~ia64 ~mips ppc ppc64 -sparc x86

when was the last time you sync'ed?



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread BRM
- Original Message 

 From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 12:18:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only 
 ~x86)???
 ALSO:
 from the qt-4.5.3 ebuild:
 
 KEYWORDS=~alpha amd64 arm hppa ~ia64 ~mips ppc ppc64 -sparc x86
 
 when was the last time you sync'ed?

http://gentoo-portage.com/x11-libs/qt

shows the same thing - qt-4.5.3 is hard masked.

Ben





Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
 Hi there,

 Upgrading some packages today I saw:

 Qt3 is deprecated and unsupported, both upstream and by the Gentoo Qt
 Project. x11-libs/qt:3 will be removed from portage soon. See
 http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_f988855f798764822704bbbd743ab6f7.xml
 You are encouraged to use Qt4 instead.

 However when I try to resolve this, I find that only 3.3 versions are marked
 as stable:

 $ eix x11-libs/qt$
 [I] x11-libs/qt
     Available versions:
        (3)     3.3.8b-r1 3.3.8b-r2
        (4)     [M]4.5.3 [M]~4.6.1
        {cups dbus debug doc examples firebird immqt immqt-bc ipv6 kde mysql
 nas nis odbc opengl postgres qt3support sqlite xinerama}
     Installed versions:  3.3.8b-r2(3)(14:05:56 10/02/10)(cups doc examples
 -debug -firebird -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -opengl
 -postgres -sqlite -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://qt.nokia.com/
     Description:         The Qt toolkit is a comprehensive C++ application
 development framework

 $


 Is anyone else seeing this, please?

 The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right about
 NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to what I'm seeing.

 Thanks in advance for any comments,

 Stroller.




I seem to have them both installed with only my old version of MYthTV
requiring qt-3.3.8

- Mark

firefly distfiles # eix -Ic qt
[I] dev-python/PyQt4 (4@02/03/10): A set of Python bindings for
the Qt toolkit
[I] virtual/poppler-qt4 (0.12.3...@02/04/10): Virtual package,
includes packages that contain libpoppler-qt4.so
[I] x11-libs/qt (3.3.8b-r2(3)@01/30/10): The Qt toolkit is a
comprehensive C++ application development framework
[I] x11-libs/qt-core (4.5.3-r2(4)@01/31/10): The Qt toolkit is a
comprehensive C++ application development framework
[I] x11-libs/qt-dbus (4.5.3-r1(4)@01/31/10): The DBus module for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-gui (4.5.3-r2(4)@01/31/10): The GUI module for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-opengl (4.5.3-r1(4)@02/03/10): The OpenGL module for
the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-qt3support (4.5.3(4)@02/02/10): The Qt3 support module
for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-script (4.5.3-r1(4)@01/31/10): The ECMAScript module
for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-sql (4.5.3(4)@01/31/10): The SQL module for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-svg (4.5.3-r1(4)@02/03/10): The SVG module for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-test (4.5.3-r1(4)@02/03/10): The testing framework
module for the Qt toolkit
[I] x11-libs/qt-webkit (4.5.3(4)@02/03/10): The Webkit module for the Qt toolkit
Found 13 matches.
firefly distfiles # equery depends =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2
[ Searching for packages depending on =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2... ]
media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20877 (=x11-libs/qt-3.3:3[mysql,opengl])
x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.21_p16505 (=x11-libs/qt-3.3:3)
firefly distfiles #



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +, Stroller wrote:

 The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right  
 about NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to what I'm seeing.

The message says it will be masked on Feb 21st and removed on March 21st.
So you have eleven days to add it to package.unmask and nearly six weeks
before you need to add the kde-sunset overlay. That's assuming the ebuilds
that depend on QT3 haven't been updated to wiork with QT4, which is
highly likely as that would require upstream changes for most of them too.

It's a minor inconvenience, but they are giving us a decent warning.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +, Stroller wrote:

 The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right
 about NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to what I'm seeing.

 The message says it will be masked on Feb 21st and removed on March 21st.
 So you have eleven days to add it to package.unmask and nearly six weeks
 before you need to add the kde-sunset overlay. That's assuming the ebuilds
 that depend on QT3 haven't been updated to wiork with QT4, which is
 highly likely as that would require upstream changes for most of them too.

 It's a minor inconvenience, but they are giving us a decent warning.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

So am I at any great risk doing an emerge -C qt-3.3 and then expecting
revdep-rebuild to fix up mythtv-0.21 with qt-4 using whatever it has
ffor qt3-support?

I'm __really__ not ready to upgrade my whole MythTV setup 0.22 if 0.21
requires qt-3 and the qt3 support stuff in qt4 doesn't work. That
would be very painful for me even given 6 weeks.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +, Stroller wrote:
  The message posted to Gentoo-dev suggests that Qt3 is going away right
  about NOW, but this doesn't seem to add up to what I'm seeing.
  
  The message says it will be masked on Feb 21st and removed on March 21st.
  So you have eleven days to add it to package.unmask and nearly six weeks
  before you need to add the kde-sunset overlay. That's assuming the
  ebuilds that depend on QT3 haven't been updated to wiork with QT4, which
  is highly likely as that would require upstream changes for most of them
  too.
  
  It's a minor inconvenience, but they are giving us a decent warning.
  
  
  --
  Neil Bothwick
 
 So am I at any great risk doing an emerge -C qt-3.3 and then expecting
 revdep-rebuild to fix up mythtv-0.21 with qt-4 using whatever it has
 ffor qt3-support?
 
 I'm __really__ not ready to upgrade my whole MythTV setup 0.22 if 0.21
 requires qt-3 and the qt3 support stuff in qt4 doesn't work. That
 would be very painful for me even given 6 weeks.
 
 - Mark

quickpkg all your crap

emerge -C qt-3
emerge -C your mythtv stuff
emerge qt4 set
emerge current mythtv stuff

it works? congratulation!
it doesn't? just unmerge the new stuff and then emerge the binpkgs quickpkg 
created. Which takes maybe 5 minutes.



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I seem to have them both installed with only my old version of MYthTV
 requiring qt-3.3.8

That's easy then, switch to MythTV 0.22, it's much better :)


-- 
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I do not like this dumb machine
I really ought to sell it.
It never does just what I want
But only what I tell it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
  I seem to have them both installed with only my old version of MYthTV
  requiring qt-3.3.8
  
  That's easy then, switch to MythTV 0.22, it's much better :)
  
  
  --
  Neil Bothwick
 
 I don't care at all that it's much better. I care that what I have
 works and the family doesn't bother me.
 
 My Myth server is PowerPC based and so everytime I switch there's
 always things to relearn in terms of updating kernel and risks that
 others don't have.
 
 And I cannot update mythfrontend on my desktop machine without
 updating EVERY machine on the network to 0.22, so that's 2 desktops, 2
 dedicated machines hooked to TVs and the server. That's a lot of work
 just because someone decides they don't want to support it anymore.
 
 On the other hand, if the qt4 qt3-support works then I don't update
 from 0.21 at all.
 
 Again, I cannot see the 0.22 gives me anything I care about but
 there's no way to know until I commit to making the change.
 
 Cheers,
 Mark

if everything works, why are you even bothering with updates? Why do you care 
at all that qt3 is going away?

but as I told you, the solution is quickpkg.

And for quickly deploying packages:
buidpkg
BINHOST.

have a look at man emerge, man make.conf



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:20:09 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 So am I at any great risk doing an emerge -C qt-3.3 and then expecting
 revdep-rebuild to fix up mythtv-0.21 with qt-4 using whatever it has
 ffor qt3-support?
 
 I'm __really__ not ready to upgrade my whole MythTV setup 0.22 if 0.21
 requires qt-3 and the qt3 support stuff in qt4 doesn't work. That
 would be very painful for me even given 6 weeks.

QT3 and QT4 are different, MythTV 0.21 needs QT3, 0.22 needs QT4. One
good thing about this is that QT4 uses split ebuilds, so you need install
much less of Qt for a Myth backend.

Upgrading from 0.21 to 0.22 was painless AFAIR. I made a backup of the
database but didn't need. You do need to upgrade all backends and
frontends at the same time, but then it's just a matter of restarting
them and you're OK. I did emerge --onlydeps mythtv  emerge -B mythtv 
first so that I could then run emerge -k mythtv on the server to minimise
the time it was down.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

... I just forgot to increment the counter, Tom said, nonplussed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:19:37 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 And I cannot update mythfrontend on my desktop machine without
 updating EVERY machine on the network to 0.22, so that's 2 desktops, 2
 dedicated machines hooked to TVs and the server. That's a lot of work
 just because someone decides they don't want to support it anymore.

I doubt MythTV 0.21 is supported any more, so it's a bit late to be
worrying about using unsupported software.

Personally, I'm pleased they are no longer spending time on EOL software
and devoting it to the current set. By building binary packages, the
downtime is minimal and if you use the same themes as before (I don't
like the new 0.22 default) there's little relearning for your family.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I seem to have them both installed with only my old version of MYthTV
 requiring qt-3.3.8

 That's easy then, switch to MythTV 0.22, it's much better :)


 --
 Neil Bothwick

I don't care at all that it's much better. I care that what I have
works and the family doesn't bother me.

My Myth server is PowerPC based and so everytime I switch there's
always things to relearn in terms of updating kernel and risks that
others don't have.

And I cannot update mythfrontend on my desktop machine without
updating EVERY machine on the network to 0.22, so that's 2 desktops, 2
dedicated machines hooked to TVs and the server. That's a lot of work
just because someone decides they don't want to support it anymore.

On the other hand, if the qt4 qt3-support works then I don't update
from 0.21 at all.

Again, I cannot see the 0.22 gives me anything I care about but
there's no way to know until I commit to making the change.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Manuel McLure
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 Upgrading from 0.21 to 0.22 was painless AFAIR. I made a backup of the
 database but didn't need. You do need to upgrade all backends and
 frontends at the same time, but then it's just a matter of restarting
 them and you're OK. I did emerge --onlydeps mythtv  emerge -B mythtv
 first so that I could then run emerge -k mythtv on the server to minimise
 the time it was down.

It can be painless, but you could also run into the corrupt database
encoding problem on Gentoo. I did, and had to follow the steps at
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fixing_Corrupt_Database_Encoding to fix a
partial corruption before the upgrade would succeed.

However, I'm quite happy with the behavior and performance of 0.22, so
it was definitely worth the pain.
-- 
Manuel A. McLure WW1FA man...@mclure.org http://www.mclure.org
...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law,
no man may kill a cat.   -- H.P. Lovecraft



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 19:22:01 BRM wrote:
 - Original Message 
 
  From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 12:18:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only
  ~x86)??? ALSO:
  from the qt-4.5.3 ebuild:
  
  KEYWORDS=~alpha amd64 arm hppa ~ia64 ~mips ppc ppc64 -sparc x86
  
  when was the last time you sync'ed?
 
 http://gentoo-portage.com/x11-libs/qt
 
 shows the same thing - qt-4.5.3 is hard masked.

as already mentioned *twice* in the sub-thread you are responding to, qt is 
dead. It is a meta ebuild that should not even exist.

The qt- subpackages are very much alive and stable:

$ eix qt-gui
[I] x11-libs/qt-gui
 Available versions:  (4) 4.5.3-r2 (~)4.6.1 **4.6.-r1[1] **4.-
r1[1]
{+accessibility aqua cups dbus debug exceptions +glib gtk +kde-qt mng 
nas nis pch qt3support raster (+)stable-branch tiff xinerama}
 Installed versions:  4.6.1(4)(23:21:45 09/02/10)(accessibility cups dbus 
glib gtk mng pch qt3support tiff xinerama -aqua -debug -nas -nis -raster)
 Homepage:http://qt.nokia.com/
 Description: The GUI module for the Qt toolkit

You do not need to emerge qt. Just emerge the stuff that uses qt and let 
portage pick the bits needed.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Stroller


On 10 Feb 2010, at 20:27, Alan McKinnon wrote:

...
The qt- subpackages are very much alive and stable:

$ eix qt-gui
[I] x11-libs/qt-gui
Available versions:  (4) 4.5.3-r2 (~)4.6.1 **4.6.-r1[1]  
**4.-

r1[1]
   {+accessibility aqua cups dbus debug exceptions +glib gtk  
+kde-qt mng

nas nis pch qt3support raster (+)stable-branch tiff xinerama}
Installed versions:  4.6.1(4)(23:21:45 09/02/10)(accessibility  
cups dbus
glib gtk mng pch qt3support tiff xinerama -aqua -debug -nas -nis - 
raster)

Homepage:http://qt.nokia.com/
Description: The GUI module for the Qt toolkit

You do not need to emerge qt. Just emerge the stuff that uses qt and  
let

portage pick the bits needed.


I wasn't aware that  x11-libs/qt-gui was the new name for x11-libs/ 
qt. Especially since I had both installed. However I have now  
unmerrged x11-libs/qt and `emerge -pvu world` does not show me short  
of anything, so I thank you for your help.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP

 Again, I cannot see the 0.22 gives me anything I care about but
 there's no way to know until I commit to making the change.

 Cheers,
 Mark

 if everything works, why are you even bothering with updates? Why do you care
 at all that qt3 is going away?

 but as I told you, the solution is quickpkg.

 And for quickly deploying packages:
 buidpkg
 BINHOST.

 have a look at man emerge, man make.conf

Volker,
   Thanks. I've not used quickpkg before but it seems like a very good
short term solution.

   If I understand correctly I'd do something more or less like this?

1) quickpkg =qt-3.3.8xxx  This creates the binary package and
stores it in /usr/portage/package. I've done this step and the package
is there.

2) emerge -C =qt-3.3.8x to remove the original. Easy when I do it.

3) emerge -pvg =qt-3.3.8b-r2 to get it to use the quickpkg version

This all seems to work but it complains a bit about PORTAGE_BINHOST
not being set. As best I can tell that's only for using another
machine to get the binary? Is that true? Is seems from these commands
that it's finding the one I just made. Or is there a format for doing
this and pointing at a local directory?

firefly ~ # emerge -pvg =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  !!! PORTAGE_BINHOST unset, but use is requested.
... done!
[binary   R   ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2  USE=cups ipv6 mysql opengl
-debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -immqt -immqt-bc -nas -nis -odbc
-postgres -sqlite -xinerama

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall, 1 binary), Size of downloads: 0 kB
firefly ~ # emerge -pv =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2  USE=cups ipv6 mysql opengl
-debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -immqt -immqt-bc -nas -nis -odbc
-postgres -sqlite -xinerama 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
firefly ~ #


Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 SNIP
 
  Again, I cannot see the 0.22 gives me anything I care about but
  there's no way to know until I commit to making the change.
  
  Cheers,
  Mark
  
  if everything works, why are you even bothering with updates? Why do you
  care at all that qt3 is going away?
  
  but as I told you, the solution is quickpkg.
  
  And for quickly deploying packages:
  buidpkg
  BINHOST.
  
  have a look at man emerge, man make.conf
 
 Volker,
Thanks. I've not used quickpkg before but it seems like a very good
 short term solution.
 
If I understand correctly I'd do something more or less like this?
 
 1) quickpkg =qt-3.3.8xxx  This creates the binary package and
 stores it in /usr/portage/package. I've done this step and the package
 is there.
 
 2) emerge -C =qt-3.3.8x to remove the original. Easy when I do it.
 
 3) emerge -pvg =qt-3.3.8b-r2 to get it to use the quickpkg version

no.

you are using -k not -g.

 
 This all seems to work but it complains a bit about PORTAGE_BINHOST
 not being set. As best I can tell that's only for using another
 machine to get the binary? Is that true? Is seems from these commands
 that it's finding the one I just made. Or is there a format for doing
 this and pointing at a local directory?
 
 firefly ~ # emerge -pvg =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies  !!! PORTAGE_BINHOST unset, but use is requested.
 ... done!
 [binary   R   ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2  USE=cups ipv6 mysql opengl
 -debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -immqt -immqt-bc -nas -nis -odbc
 -postgres -sqlite -xinerama
 
 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall, 1 binary), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 firefly ~ # emerge -pv =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2  USE=cups ipv6 mysql opengl
 -debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -immqt -immqt-bc -nas -nis -odbc
 -postgres -sqlite -xinerama 0 kB
 
 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 firefly ~ #

you get that message because you are telling portage to get that package from 
BINHOST. That is great if you have one machine building packages and the rest 
of your machines pulling them from the server and install them.

What you want/should/must use is -k = usepkg or -K = usepkgonly

Also, it is a wise decision to have the buildpkg option set in make.conf, if 
you have a couple of gb to spare. That helps a lot in cases of bad updates, 
filesystem damage, or the need to go back a version quickly for whatever 
reasons.




Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
 firefly ~ # emerge -pvg =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2

Ah, instead I should use

emerge --usepkg =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2

No errors or warnings.

Nice! Now Myth works no matter what happens in portage to qt...

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:34:06 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 emerge --usepkg =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r2
 
 No errors or warnings.
 
 Nice! Now Myth works no matter what happens in portage to qt...

Except you won't get any updates to Qt is a security hole is discovered,
that's the main reason for adding the kde-sunset overlay.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Qt3 deprecated, but Qt4 still not x86 (only ~x86)???

2010-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 22:51:00 Stroller wrote:
 On 10 Feb 2010, at 20:27, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  ...
  The qt- subpackages are very much alive and stable:
  
  $ eix qt-gui
  [I] x11-libs/qt-gui
  
  Available versions:  (4) 4.5.3-r2 (~)4.6.1 **4.6.-r1[1]
  
  **4.-
  r1[1]
  
 {+accessibility aqua cups dbus debug exceptions +glib gtk
  
  +kde-qt mng
  nas nis pch qt3support raster (+)stable-branch tiff xinerama}
  
  Installed versions:  4.6.1(4)(23:21:45 09/02/10)(accessibility
  
  cups dbus
  glib gtk mng pch qt3support tiff xinerama -aqua -debug -nas -nis -
  raster)
  
  Homepage:http://qt.nokia.com/
  Description: The GUI module for the Qt toolkit
  
  You do not need to emerge qt. Just emerge the stuff that uses qt and
  let
  portage pick the bits needed.
 
 I wasn't aware that  x11-libs/qt-gui was the new name for x11-libs/
 qt. Especially since I had both installed. However I have now
 unmerrged x11-libs/qt and `emerge -pvu world` does not show me short
 of anything, so I thank you for your help.

It's not. 
qt is a deprectaed meta package.
qt-gui is one of the split ebuilds that form part of the whole of Qt. There 
are about another 10 or so.



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