Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 08:39:09PM -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: On Tuesday 18 October 2005 07:00 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: are you saying that this line app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm is not the same on your file, despite the identical header? I mustbe getting old or something. I swear when I looked at it before it matched the other guys and not yours. Now mine matches yours. I need to start drinking ;-) OK, now I re emerge --syncd, and I got the new description. My older description was from # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc,v 1.1500 2005/10/16 21:25:13 brix Exp $ I've found some mental peace state now :) Thanks to all of you! Matias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:13:34PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:19:55 -0300, Matias Grana wrote: I'm trying to compile vim with +clipboard support. One can do this by passing --enable-clipboard to configure. There's no USE flag for this feature. After some research, I've learned that the way to do this is to configure the EXTRA_ECONF variable. Now the question is: is there a file to put these variables in? Something like /etc/portage/package.use but for econfs? You can set variables for individual ebuilds using /etc/portage/bashrc. save the attached file as /etc/portage/bashrc then do mkdir -p /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors echo /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors/vim 'EXTRA_ECONF=--enable-clipboard' You can use this to set variables, or override default settings, for any package. -- Neil Bothwick Nice! thanks so much; maybe I'll try this next time. It seems that this time I've missed some doc: On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 08:28:54PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:19:55 -0300 Matias Grana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm trying to compile vim with +clipboard support. One can do this | by passing --enable-clipboard to configure. There's no USE flag for | this feature. Incorrect. USE=vim-with-x. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm Nicer! So this is what vim-with-x stand for! I saw the flag, but thought that it would pull down gvim, which I already have in my world. Now: this pops up a second question: where can we see the exact efect of USE flags on packages? For instance: what other features 'vim-with-x' will enable? Matias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
Matias Grana schreef: On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 08:28:54PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:19:55 -0300 Matias Grana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm trying to compile vim with +clipboard support. One can do this | by passing --enable-clipboard to configure. There's no USE flag for | this feature. Incorrect. USE=vim-with-x. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm Nicer! So this is what vim-with-x stand for! I saw the flag, but thought that it would pull down gvim, which I already have in my world. Now: this pops up a second question: where can we see the exact efect of USE flags on packages? For instance: what other features 'vim-with-x' will enable? USE flag descriptions can be found in /usr/portage/profiles. There are two files: /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc (for global USE flags), and /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc (for local USE flags relevant to individual packages). You can of course search/grep normally through these files, but I find it easier to nick an alias that someone on the list provided, and add it to ~/.bashrc: alias useflag='grep /usr/portage/profiles/use.*desc -e' which enables me to do this (after re-sourcing ~/.bashrc, which I also have an alias to do :-) ): di 10/18/05 15:39 ~ motub- useflag vim-with-x /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm And now I know what it does, instead of guessing ;-) . Hope this helps Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:41:24PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: motub- useflag vim-with-x /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm Aha! Now it seems that I have an old (or not so accurate) /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc: /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Enables linking the console vim against X libs to enable some features in xterms This is why I neglected to see that clipboard and vim-with-x were related. But what I find confusing now is why I have this difference. How does one update the use.local.desc file? It seems not to belong to any package (tried equery belongs /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc and didn't get any answer). MatÃas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:44:54 -0300 Matias Grana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | This is why I neglected to see that clipboard and vim-with-x were | related. But what I find confusing now is why I have this difference. | How does one update the use.local.desc file? It seems not to belong | to any package emerge sync -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpCCsCfdO7bQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 03:44 pm, Matias Grana wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:41:24PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: motub- useflag vim-with-x /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm Aha! Now it seems that I have an old (or not so accurate) /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc: /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Enables linking the console vim against X libs to enable some features in xterms You're not out of sync, Holly is, possibly an upstream sync issue. This is why I neglected to see that clipboard and vim-with-x were related. But what I find confusing now is why I have this difference. How does one update the use.local.desc file? It seems not to belong to any package (tried equery belongs /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc and didn't get any answer). This file is resynced when you 'emerge --sync'; it is not owned by a package in portage. If you look at the timestamp of the file it should match the date of your last sync. For Holly's case, I'm wondering if she's syncing against a system that doesn't mirror that file from upstream? Just a guess. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:44:54 -0300 Matias Grana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what I find confusing now is why I have this difference. How does one update the use.local.desc file? It seems not to belong to any package (tried equery belongs /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc and didn't get any answer). Everything under $PORTDIR (usually /usr/portage) except for distfiles gets updated by emerge --sync. Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) pgp2iVEiqLSYp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
Dave Nebinger schreef: On Tuesday 18 October 2005 03:44 pm, Matias Grana wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:41:24PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: motub- useflag vim-with-x /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm Aha! Now it seems that I have an old (or not so accurate) /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc: /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc:app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Enables linking the console vim against X libs to enable some features in xterms You're not out of sync, Holly is, possibly an upstream sync issue. I esync every night at 3am CET. How can I be out of sync? And, if Matias somehow synced more recently than I did, how can his sync result in a *less* informative description than the allegedly older one (mine) ? This file is resynced when you 'emerge --sync'; it is not owned by a package in portage. If you look at the timestamp of the file it should match the date of your last sync. la /usr/portage/profiles totaal 261 drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 720 okt 18 02:36 . drwxr-xr-x 152 root root 4496 okt 18 02:36 .. -rw-r--r--1 root root97 aug 14 13:35 arch.list drwxr-xr-x2 root root 184 okt 16 11:05 base -rw-r--r--1 root root 1541 sep 4 16:36 categories drwxr-xr-x3 root root72 apr 25 05:37 commercial drwxr-xr-x3 root root72 aug 26 2004 default-bsd drwxr-xr-x4 root root 288 okt 6 05:38 default-darwin drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 552 okt 7 01:06 default-linux drwxr-xr-x3 root root 128 feb 7 2005 default-macos drwxr-xr-x2 root root 152 okt 18 02:36 embedded drwxr-xr-x6 root root 304 okt 6 05:38 hardened -rw-r--r--1 root root 257 apr 28 07:07 info_pkgs -rw-r--r--1 root root 370 apr 11 2005 info_vars -rw-r--r--1 root root 7270 nov 8 2002 lang.desc drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 288 aug 14 00:05 obsolete -rw-r--r--1 root root 51812 okt 18 00:05 package.mask -rw-r--r--1 root root 828 sep 5 19:35 profiles.desc drwxr-xr-x4 root root 288 okt 14 01:05 selinux -rw-r--r--1 root root 62518 okt 11 13:35 thirdpartymirrors drwxr-xr-x7 root root 392 okt 18 02:36 uclibc drwxr-xr-x2 root root 384 okt 17 04:08 updates -rw-r--r--1 root root 20490 okt 17 02:06 use.desc -rw-r--r--1 root root 89205 okt 18 02:06 use.local.desc drwxr-xr-x3 root root 296 sep 26 12:35 vserver So no, use.local.desc is at least current, and use.desc has apparently not changed for one day longer. For Holly's case, I'm wondering if she's syncing against a system that doesn't mirror that file from upstream? Just a guess. I sync against the Netherlands rsync pool, SYNC=rsync://rsync.nl.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage. I suppose what you say is possible, but does not seem to be the case. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:34 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: For Holly's case, I'm wondering if she's syncing against a system that doesn't mirror that file from upstream? Just a guess. I sync against the Netherlands rsync pool, SYNC=rsync://rsync.nl.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage. I suppose what you say is possible, but does not seem to be the case. I figured you sync'd daily Holly; I wouldn't have expected any less. ;-) The question is, however, if you and I both sync daily and, although file times suggest they have been updated, but the file contents are different, where would the problem lie? The only guess I could come up with is the upstream mirror. I sync against http://gentoo.osuosl.org/, and you're syncing against the netherlands pool. Either one themselves could be sync'd against another mirror which is sync'd against another mirror... Somewhere along the line I'm guessing that perhaps this particular file is not fetched/updated for some reason which would leave one of us with an outdated copy. I know mine comes out of CVS with the header $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc,v 1.1502 2005/10/18 00:03:00 vapier Exp $, so I'm guessing that I have the later file. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 16:50 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:34 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: For Holly's case, I'm wondering if she's syncing against a system that doesn't mirror that file from upstream? Just a guess. I sync against the Netherlands rsync pool, SYNC=rsync://rsync.nl.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage. I suppose what you say is possible, but does not seem to be the case. I figured you sync'd daily Holly; I wouldn't have expected any less. ;-) The question is, however, if you and I both sync daily and, although file times suggest they have been updated, but the file contents are different, where would the problem lie? The only guess I could come up with is the upstream mirror. I sync against http://gentoo.osuosl.org/, and you're syncing against the netherlands pool. Either one themselves could be sync'd against another mirror which is sync'd against another mirror... Somewhere along the line I'm guessing that perhaps this particular file is not fetched/updated for some reason which would leave one of us with an outdated copy. I know mine comes out of CVS with the header $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc,v 1.1502 2005/10/18 00:03:00 vapier Exp $, so I'm guessing that I have the later file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cvs up use.local.desc ; grep vim-with-x use.local.desc app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm [EMAIL PROTECTED] head -n 4 use.local.desc |tail -n 2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc,v 1.1505 2005/10/18 20:18:45 agriffis Exp $ //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
Dave Nebinger schreef: On Tuesday 18 October 2005 04:34 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: I know mine comes out of CVS with the header $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc,v 1.1502 2005/10/18 00:03:00 vapier Exp $, so I'm guessing that I have the later file. So does mine: # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/use.local.desc,v 1.1502 2005/10/18 00:03:00 vapier Exp $ are you saying that this line app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm is not the same on your file, despite the identical header? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 07:00 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: are you saying that this line app-editors/vim:vim-with-x - Linking console vim against X11 libraries to enable title and clipboard features in xterm is not the same on your file, despite the identical header? I mustbe getting old or something. I swear when I looked at it before it matched the other guys and not yours. Now mine matches yours. I need to start drinking ;-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:39:09 -0400 Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I mustbe getting old or something. I swear when I looked at it | before it matched the other guys and not yours. Now mine matches | yours. I need to start drinking ;-) Wheee, another person successfully confused by sneakily changing stuff in response to mailing list questions and not bothering to announce the fact. You're all crazy, anyway. There's no ing in the description. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpkcsSOBq824.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:19:55 -0300, Matias Grana wrote: I'm trying to compile vim with +clipboard support. One can do this by passing --enable-clipboard to configure. There's no USE flag for this feature. After some research, I've learned that the way to do this is to configure the EXTRA_ECONF variable. Now the question is: is there a file to put these variables in? Something like /etc/portage/package.use but for econfs? You can set variables for individual ebuilds using /etc/portage/bashrc. save the attached file as /etc/portage/bashrc then do mkdir -p /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors echo /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors/vim 'EXTRA_ECONF=--enable-clipboard' You can use this to set variables, or override default settings, for any package. -- Neil Bothwick The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. bashrc Description: Binary data pgpdKuMEXIsvZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:19:55AM -0300, Matias Grana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure I can set it by hand for one emerge, but I'd like to set EXTRA_ECONF to --enable-clipboard forever. You could try using /etc/portage/bashrc, see portage(5). Use at your own risk. Hope that helps, Tom -- Tom Martin, http://dev.gentoo.org/~slarti AMD64, net-mail, shell-tools, vim, recruiters Gentoo Linux pgpWmiOkdVzjA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
Neil Bothwick said: mkdir -p /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors echo /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors/vim 'EXTRA_ECONF=--enable-clipboard' You can use this to set variables, or override default settings, for any package. Ooh that's quite nifty. I'll have to write that one down. Thanks, Neil. :) --Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:19:55 -0300, Matias Grana wrote: I'm trying to compile vim with +clipboard support. One can do this by passing --enable-clipboard to configure. There's no USE flag for this feature. After some research, I've learned that the way to do this is to configure the EXTRA_ECONF variable. Now the question is: is there a file to put these variables in? Something like /etc/portage/package.use but for econfs? You can set variables for individual ebuilds using /etc/portage/bashrc. save the attached file as /etc/portage/bashrc then do mkdir -p /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors echo /etc/portage/env.d/app-editors/vim 'EXTRA_ECONF=--enable-clipboard' You can use this to set variables, or override default settings, for any package. Oh, Neil, you're kidding, right? I'd had to use FEATURES=-nostrip on the command line for *ages* to get SDL to emerge unstripped so that it would work with NWMovies (the hack that allows Neverwinter Nights to play movies inside the game, like normal); the only reason I stopped was because with the very most recent versions of SDL even that doesn't work and I have to compile it manually after hacking one line in video.c. But you're saying I could have just added echo /etc/portage/env.d/media-libs/libsdl 'FEATURES=nostrip' to /etc/portage/bashrc and I would have been done, all those times-- could have just emerged normally? But man 5 portage doesn't say anything about /etc/portage/env.d, and it doesn't say anything much about what precisely you can put in /etc/portage/bashrc either: SYNOPSIS /etc/ make.globals make.conf(5) /etc/make.profile/ deprecated make.defaults packages packages.build package.provided parent use.defaults use.mask virtuals /etc/portage/ bashrc package.mask package.unmask package.keywords package.use mirrors categories /etc/portage/profile/ site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/ /usr/portage/profiles/ arch.list categories info_pkgs info_vars package.mask profiles.desc thirdpartymirrors use.desc use.local.desc use.mask /var/lib/portage/ world (note no /etc/portage/env.d mentioned, so how would one know to create it or that it would be recognized by Portage) /etc/portage/ bashrc If needed, this file can be used to set up a special environment for ebuilds, different from the standard root environment. The syntax is the same as for any other bash script. (this says almost nothing, frankly, unless you are very familiar with the 'standard root environment for ebuilds', and again, doesn't say anything about which particular features of this enviroment may be varied by this file, or if any of them may not be, in true 'not yet implemented' fashion). But then again, I restrict myself to the last stable version of Portage: * sys-apps/portage Available versions: 2.0.51.22-r3 ~2.0.53_rc5 [M]2.1.0_alpha20050718 Installed: 2.0.51.22-r3 Is it possible that the man page is updated in the unstable versions, or that this is implemented in the unstable versions only, or are you just very clever to have figured this all out :-) ? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 19:14 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: But man 5 portage doesn't say anything about /etc/portage/env.d, and it doesn't say anything much about what precisely you can put in /etc/portage/bashrc either: The /etc/portage/bashrc file can be (ab)used to do all kinds of things with the emerge command. Because the use of it can allow a user to not only shoot themselves in the foot, but blow up the entire system, it isn't heavily documented. Basically, it is one of those things that if you don't know what you are doing, then either stay away from it or have extensive backups of your system. Finally, this doesn't mean that you shouldn't use Neil's suggestion. Just make sure that you are comfortable with the supplied bashrc before implementing. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:28:51 -0500, Paul Varner wrote: Finally, this doesn't mean that you shouldn't use Neil's suggestion. Just make sure that you are comfortable with the supplied bashrc before implementing. And don't blame me if it does go BOOM! :) -- Neil Bothwick Mr. Worf, scan that ship. Aye Captain. 300 dpi? pgpncToCB2gD6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:19:55 -0300 Matias Grana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm trying to compile vim with +clipboard support. One can do this | by passing --enable-clipboard to configure. There's no USE flag for | this feature. Incorrect. USE=vim-with-x. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpUoxNmCNBUk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to use EXTRA_ECONF?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:14:54 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: But you're saying I could have just added echo /etc/portage/env.d/media-libs/libsdl 'FEATURES=nostrip' to /etc/portage/bashrc and I would have been done, all those times-- could have just emerged normally? No, you put the settings in /etc/portage/env.d/cate-gory/package. Use the attached script for bashrc. But man 5 portage doesn't say anything about /etc/portage/env.d, It wouldn't, that directory is used by that particular bashrc script. bashrc is run by ebuild at various stages of the process. -- Neil Bothwick If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? pgpidRHtirJFp.pgp Description: PGP signature
