Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 22/08/2013 19:37, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: When setting up the X server and the proprietary ndivia driver, as described here (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NVidia/nvidia-drivers), I emerged nvidia-settings, as suggested in the wiki article, The drivers can be installed with the *gtk* USE flag set in /etc/portage/make.conf. This will install *media-video/nvidia-settings*, a handy graphical tool for monitoring and configuring several aspects of your nVidia card. The version of the nvidia driver and nvidia settings I emerged is: box0=; equery list '*'|grep nvidia-driver x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-319.32 I then emerged xfce4 as well as the xfce4-sensors-plugin (box0=; equery list '*'|grep xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5), which pulled in nvidia-settings of an older version: box0=; equery list '*'|grep nvidia-settings media-video/nvidia-settings-304.60 I had a look at the xfce4-sensors-plugin ebuild, and found nvidia-settings listed as a dependency, with no version specified. RDEPEND==x11-libs/gtk+-2.14:2 =xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.8 =xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.8 hddtemp? ( app-admin/hddtemp net-analyzer/gnu-netcat ) libnotify? ( =x11-libs/libnotify-0.7 ) lm_sensors? ( =sys-apps/lm_sensors-3.1.0 ) video_cards_nvidia? ( media-video/nvidia-settings ) I now seem to have both versions of nvidia-settings installed. How do I fix that please? You don't have two versions of nvidia-settings. You have one version of nvidia-drivers and one version of nvidia-settings, and they don't have the same version number. This is normal, nvidia-settings often runs behind nvidia-drivers. They do not seem to get updated at the same time (unless driver changes require it be done of course) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 08/22/2013 08:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: You don't have two versions of nvidia-settings. You have one version of nvidia-drivers and one version of nvidia-settings, and they don't have the same version number. This is normal, nvidia-settings often runs behind nvidia-drivers. They do not seem to get updated at the same time (unless driver changes require it be done of course) Thanks for your prompt response. There seem to be ebuilds available for both versions of the nvidia-settings in the portage repository: box0=; ls `pwd`/*|egrep '304.60|319.32' /usr/portage/media-video/nvidia-settings/nvidia-settings-304.60.ebuild /usr/portage/media-video/nvidia-settings/nvidia-settings-319.32.ebuild I've also noticed that in the xfce 'Applicatoins Menu' - 'Settings', I have two entries for nvidia-settings. Is there a reason why the xfce-sensors plug-in pulls in nvidia-settings-304.60, instead of nvidia-settings-319.32? Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 22/08/2013 20:02, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 08/22/2013 08:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: You don't have two versions of nvidia-settings. You have one version of nvidia-drivers and one version of nvidia-settings, and they don't have the same version number. This is normal, nvidia-settings often runs behind nvidia-drivers. They do not seem to get updated at the same time (unless driver changes require it be done of course) Thanks for your prompt response. There seem to be ebuilds available for both versions of the nvidia-settings in the portage repository: box0=; ls `pwd`/*|egrep '304.60|319.32' /usr/portage/media-video/nvidia-settings/nvidia-settings-304.60.ebuild /usr/portage/media-video/nvidia-settings/nvidia-settings-319.32.ebuild I've also noticed that in the xfce 'Applicatoins Menu' - 'Settings', I have two entries for nvidia-settings. Is there a reason why the xfce-sensors plug-in pulls in nvidia-settings-304.60, instead of nvidia-settings-319.32? xfce4-sensors-plugin is not what's doing it. It only requires nvidia-settings and doesn't care what version. So that's not it. There's really only one explanation - something else is pulling in nvidia-settings and xfce4-sensors-plugin is leaving it as-is. Please post the results of equery depends nvidia-settings grep -r nvidia-settings /etc/portage -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 08/22/2013 09:06 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: xfce4-sensors-plugin is not what's doing it. It only requires nvidia-settings and doesn't care what version. So that's not it. There's really only one explanation - something else is pulling in nvidia-settings and xfce4-sensors-plugin is leaving it as-is. Please post the results of equery depends nvidia-settings grep -r nvidia-settings /etc/portage box0=; equery depends nvidia-settings * These packages depend on nvidia-settings: xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5 (video_cards_nvidia ? media-video/nvidia-settings) box0=; grep -r nvidia-settings /etc/portage box0=; echo $? 1 Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 22.08.2013 21:37, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: The version of the nvidia driver and nvidia settings I emerged is: box0=; equery list '*'|grep nvidia-driver x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-319.32 I then emerged xfce4 as well as the xfce4-sensors-plugin (box0=; equery list '*'|grep xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5), which pulled in nvidia-settings of an older version: box0=; equery list '*'|grep nvidia-settings media-video/nvidia-settings-304.60 I guess it's rather obvious. The two packages x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers and media-video/nvidia-settings don't know about each other. The xfce4-sensors-plugin package needs nv-settings but it simply doesn't know that nv-settings is already installed by the (different!) nv-drivers. I think this could be reported to the maintainer of the xfce4 plugin. -- Best wishes, Yuri K. Shatroff
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 08/22/2013 09:27 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: I guess it's rather obvious. The two packages x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers and media-video/nvidia-settings don't know about each other. The xfce4-sensors-plugin package needs nv-settings but it simply doesn't know that nv-settings is already installed by the (different!) nv-drivers. I think this could be reported to the maintainer of the xfce4 plugin. That makes sense. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 08/22/2013 09:27 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: I think this could be reported to the maintainer of the xfce4 plugin. The maintainer field for the xfce4-sensors plugin seems to be undefined: box0=; equery meta xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5|grep -i maintainer Maintainer: None specified Who would you recommend contacting about my original post? Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 22.08.2013 22:49, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:27 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: I think this could be reported to the maintainer of the xfce4 plugin. The maintainer field for the xfce4-sensors plugin seems to be undefined: box0=; equery meta xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5|grep -i maintainer Maintainer: None specified Who would you recommend contacting about my original post? Thanks. As I figured in the package's changelog, some work on it is being done by Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org. He is also on this list, so I guess he could get involved as soon as he reads the list. -- Best wishes, Yuri K. Shatroff
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 08/22/2013 09:59 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: As I figured in the package's changelog, some work on it is being done by Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org. He is also on this list, so I guess he could get involved as soon as he reads the list. Understood. Thanks. Let's wait and hear from Samuli Suominen then.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 22/08/13 22:03, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:59 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: As I figured in the package's changelog, some work on it is being done by Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org. He is also on this list, so I guess he could get involved as soon as he reads the list. Understood. Thanks. Let's wait and hear from Samuli Suominen then. Because the separate nvidia-settings package also ships a library which isn't installed by nvidia-drivers package: $ qfile -b libXNVCtrl.a media-video/nvidia-settings (/usr/lib64/libXNVCtrl.a) And it's being used by xfce4-sensors-plugin, if you extract the tarball and look inside file configure.in, you'll see: NVIDIA_LIBS=-lX11 -lXext -lXNVCtrl ^ - See here, libXNVCtrl.a used
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
On 22/08/13 22:22, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: What course of action would you recommend taking with regard to my original post? I'm not sure if I understand your problem but... Looks like nvidia-drivers-319.32 was stabilized without stabilizing nvidia-settings-319.32 together with it. You can file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org/ and request stabilization of nvidia-settings-319.32 to match the current stable nvidia-drivers. You can also temporarily add entry to /etc/portage/package.keywords like ~media-video/nvidia-settings-319.32 Anyway I wouldn't worry about it too much, they have been going in different cycles for years and I don't ever remembering anyone reporting an actual bug about it (other than what I just suggested, people get confused by non-matching version numbers, ask questions, and end up filing stabilization request ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
Understood. Thanks. What course of action would you recommend taking with regard to my original post? Thanks. On Aug 22, 2013 10:17 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 22/08/13 22:03, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:59 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: As I figured in the package's changelog, some work on it is being done by Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org. He is also on this list, so I guess he could get involved as soon as he reads the list. Understood. Thanks. Let's wait and hear from Samuli Suominen then. Because the separate nvidia-settings package also ships a library which isn't installed by nvidia-drivers package: $ qfile -b libXNVCtrl.a media-video/nvidia-settings (/usr/lib64/libXNVCtrl.a) And it's being used by xfce4-sensors-plugin, if you extract the tarball and look inside file configure.in, you'll see: NVIDIA_LIBS=-lX11 -lXext -lXNVCtrl ^ - See here, libXNVCtrl.a used
Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings
No worries then. Thanks very much for the explanation. On Aug 22, 2013 10:31 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 22/08/13 22:22, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: What course of action would you recommend taking with regard to my original post? I'm not sure if I understand your problem but... Looks like nvidia-drivers-319.32 was stabilized without stabilizing nvidia-settings-319.32 together with it. You can file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org/ and request stabilization of nvidia-settings-319.32 to match the current stable nvidia-drivers. You can also temporarily add entry to /etc/portage/package.keywords like ~media-video/nvidia-settings-**319.32 Anyway I wouldn't worry about it too much, they have been going in different cycles for years and I don't ever remembering anyone reporting an actual bug about it (other than what I just suggested, people get confused by non-matching version numbers, ask questions, and end up filing stabilization request ;-)
