[gentoo-user] Re: Hard crash starting wifi in master mode (am desperate)
I'm trying to move my network's router/AP functions to a different system. Whenever I start the madwifi card in master mode in the new system the whole system locks up hard, although the CD tray still opens. There is nothing in /var/log/*, the keyboard LEDs do not flash, and I've tried 2.6.23-hardened-r7 and 2.6.23-hardened-r9. The old system works just fine with the card in master mode. The old system is x86 and the new one is amd64. I've been working on this router move for about 8 hours straight. Does anyone have any ideas? - Grant I also should have said that I've tried every version of madwifi-ng in portage and a 'make mrproper' of my kernel to ensure a clean build. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] NAT alternatives (nf_conntrack kernel panics)
My Gentoo router kernel panics with an skb_over_panic message when Netfilter connection tracking (nf_conntrack) is built into the kernel or built as a module and I start net.ath0 (madwifi-ng) in master mode. I've tried hardened-2.6.23, hardened-2.6.24, madwifi-0.9.3.3, and madwifi-0.9.4. nf_conntrack seems to be required in order for NAT to work, so I've been looking for alternatives. I found mention of Fast NAT and nf_nat, both of which are supposed to be alternatives to nf_conntrack, but maybe they are no longer existent because I can not Google specifics on either and I can't find them in the kernel. I've put 16 or so hours into this so far so I'll head to Staples for a temporary Linksys soon. I sure would like to have Gentoo routing though. Please let me know if you have any ideas. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: NAT alternatives (nf_conntrack kernel panics)
My Gentoo router kernel panics with an skb_over_panic message when Netfilter connection tracking (nf_conntrack) is built into the kernel or built as a module and I start net.ath0 (madwifi-ng) in master mode. I've tried hardened-2.6.23, hardened-2.6.24, madwifi-0.9.3.3, and madwifi-0.9.4. nf_conntrack seems to be required in order for NAT to work, so I've been looking for alternatives. I found mention of Fast NAT and nf_nat, both of which are supposed to be alternatives to nf_conntrack, but maybe they are no longer existent because I can not Google specifics on either and I can't find them in the kernel. I've put 16 or so hours into this so far so I'll head to Staples for a temporary Linksys soon. I sure would like to have Gentoo routing though. Please let me know if you have any ideas. - Grant FIXED! I changed preemption support to voluntary and changed the CPU settings in the kernel config to match my Sempron now that my X2 is dead. One or both of those fixed it. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] postup() syntax help
I'm having trouble getting an iwconfig command to execute after the
wlan0 interface has started. The following executes after net.lo
starts but there is no message about it executing after net.wlan0
starts and the rate is not limited like it is when I execute the
command manually:
postup() {
if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then
iwconfig wlan0 rate 1M
fi
return 0
}
Does anyone see where I'm going wrong here?
- Grant
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[gentoo-user] VirtualBox libSDL segfault
When trying to install an XP guest on a Gentoo Linux host I get the following in dmesg: VirtualBox[31849]: segfault at 2d5b4ae0 ip 7fd12ddb9cf6 sp 7fff37a9ac60 error 4 in libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.0[7fd12dda4000+64000] also: VirtualBox[13373]: segfault at 2759ae0 ip 7ffa02f5ee56 sp 7fff0cc3fe00 error 4 in libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.2[7ffa02f49000+65000] Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried ~amd64 versions of sdl stuff to no avail. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can connect the antenna to my laptop directly), not the passphrase key... Ah. I've got a Hawking HWUG1 USB WiFi adapter that works fine with Gentoo (I had to download driver source from somewhere). It's got an R-SMA connector for use with external antennas. I've had good luck using these together: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164015 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110 Use the rt2x00 driver included in 2.6.24 kernels. I should mention though, I attached that antenna to a PCI madwifi card and it works much better. Obviously that won't work for a laptop or if you want to move the antenna a distance from the computer via USB cable as opposed to antenna extension cable. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can connect the antenna to my laptop directly), not the passphrase key... Ah. I've got a Hawking HWUG1 USB WiFi adapter that works fine with Gentoo (I had to download driver source from somewhere). It's got an R-SMA connector for use with external antennas. I've had good luck using these together: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164015 Yup, that's the one I have. That's a good price on it, too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110 I've also got one of those antennas and it's exellent. It provides a little (1-2dB) more gain as my double-biquad reflector, but it's a lot cheaper (assuming your time is worth much), and a bit easier to use, since it will sit nicely on a table or windowsill. Seems a nice combo, indeed. A curiosity: by itself, the Hawking USB adapter has more or less sensitivity than the simple Airport glued to my Macbook motherboard? I think it depends a lot on the maturity of the drivers. As I said, my Netgear PCI card uses the madwifi drivers and vastly outperforms the Hawking adapter. The Hawking's drivers are fairly new (rt2x00) and madwifi has been around for quite a while now. I do have another rt2x00 adapter that performs noticeably worse than the Hawking. It's a Linksys and it has no external antenna. Also worth noting is that this item: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315075 uses rt2x00 but has some type of failure issue. Possibly heat related, possibly not. I've experienced it firsthand. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
What do you mean by outperform? I can see how drivers can affect throughput. The Windows drivers for my Laptop's WiFi chipset (Intel Pro-something) only get about 1/4 of the bandwidth that the Linux drivers do. But, I don't understand how the driver can affect receiver sensitivity. That's purely a function of the design of the RF frontend. As modified by the firmware in the device. OK, it's not the driver per se, but it's certainly not the hardware either Sorry, I don't see how firmware can affect sensitivity. I've been involved in writing firmware for RF data communications stuff for a long time, and I've certainly never been able to affect sensitivity. I can say that I was really struggling to get a reliable wireless connection with the rt2x00 device and Hawking external antenna anywhere in my garage. I tried the madwifi device attached to the same Hawking antenna and the difference was ridiculous. I got a perfectly reliable signal from the back of the garage, the point furthest from the signal's source. Now that I think about it, I could have enabled outdoor mode for madwifi, but I can't check it right now. Could that account for the difference? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?
Sorry, I don't see how firmware can affect sensitivity. I've been involved in writing firmware for RF data communications stuff for a long time, and I've certainly never been able to affect sensitivity. I can say that I was really struggling to get a reliable wireless connection with the rt2x00 device and Hawking external antenna anywhere in my garage. I tried the madwifi device attached to the same Hawking antenna and the difference was ridiculous. I got a perfectly reliable signal from the back of the garage, the point furthest from the signal's source. Now that I think about it, I could have enabled outdoor mode for madwifi, but I can't check it right now. Could that account for the difference? What's madwifi outdoor mode? I googled but I can't find some readable information. The only info I have is from /etc/conf.d/ath_pci: # outdoor: Enable/disable outdoor use # countrycode: Override default country code options ath_pci outdoor=1 countrycode=0 Now that I look at that, the sensitivity difference could also be due to my unsetting the country code. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Should /boot be mounted to upgrade grub?
Should /boot be mounted to upgrade grub? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Should /boot be mounted to upgrade grub?
Should /boot be mounted to upgrade grub? If /boot is not mounted by default, then yes. The menu.lst and grub.conf files live in /boot/grub and these are updated when grub is upgraded, although menu.lst is usually a symlink to grub.conf. If you're upgrading grub through the emerge process, then /boot will be mounted for you, IIRC. -- Ian Hilt Awesome thanks guys. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /boot keeps mounting itself
I've been noticing this for awhile and it's time I ask you guys about it: # mount /boot # umount /boot # mount /boot mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /boot busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /boot A few hours elapsed after the second command was issued, but these commands were issued sequentially. I guess something in the system is mounting /boot? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /boot keeps mounting itself
I've been noticing this for awhile and it's time I ask you guys about it: # mount /boot # umount /boot # mount /boot mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /boot busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /boot A few hours elapsed after the second command was issued, but these commands were issued sequentially. I guess something in the system is mounting /boot? If you run mount without parameters, it tells you list of mounted filesystem. So you can have a look, if it is really mounted. That's what worries me, it really is mounted. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] WARNING: mod_perl-2.0.4
I upgraded from mod_perl-2.0.3-r2 to 2.0.4, restarted apache2, and the website broke. It turns out I needed to move apache2-mod_perl-startup.pl from: /etc/apache2/conf/modules.d to: /etc/apache2/modules.d and use a newer version of the file that didn't use 'use Apache2 ();' as well as a bunch of 'Apache::' stuff that should have been 'Apache2::'. It's confusing because I remember that API change was a while ago and things have been running just fine with the 'Apache::' stuff in the file until now. Should I remove '/etc/apache2/conf/'? I still have some webalizer stuff in there. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weird SMP problem
I swapped out my Sempron for an Athlon X2 4000+, but when I have Symmetric multi-processing support enabled in the 2.6.24-hardened-r2 kernel, the system freezes as soon as the madwifi wireless interface starts in master mode. Weird. Any ideas? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird SMP problem
I swapped out my Sempron for an Athlon X2 4000+, but when I have Symmetric multi-processing support enabled in the 2.6.24-hardened-r2 kernel, the system freezes as soon as the madwifi wireless interface starts in master mode. Weird. Any ideas? http://madwifi.org/ticket/1903 has the solution. Apparently it's a kernel bug, hitting a lot of people and a workaround is to downgrade to madwifi-0.9.3.3 Thanks Alan. Compiling madwifi-ng-0.9.3.3 I get: ARCH mismatch: supplied x86, determined x86_64. It's covered here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205116 and the solution seems to be upgrade to 0.9.4. Hmmm. I think my only option is to disable SMP support until this is fixed. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird SMP problem
and the solution seems to be upgrade to 0.9.4. Hmmm. I think my only option is to disable SMP support until this is fixed. 'Tis indeed a sad state of affairs. I'm also out of my depth here (never used madwifi), but what happens is you downgrade to a version lower than 0.9.3.3? Unless 0.9.4 is the first version to support amd64, in which case I'd agree that you are out of luck. That's a good idea and it might work but I've got a critical system picking up the wireless signal a fair distance away. I'd rather not jeopardize it and just let core #2 sleep for now. I guess I should try again with another release of the kernel or madwifi. Thanks again. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] esound
I'm trying to remove all digital alteration of the sound on my music server before it hits the USB DAC. I have no jack, no pulseaudio, and I think I should remove esound. There doesn't seem to be an /etc/init.d script for it though. I've removed it from my USE flags, and un-emerged it, but now I'm curious. Has it been running on the system even without an /etc/init.d script? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] esound
I'm trying to remove all digital alteration of the sound on my music server before it hits the USB DAC. I have no jack, no pulseaudio, and I think I should remove esound. There doesn't seem to be an /etc/init.d script for it though. At my site it's called /etc/init.d/esound. Perhaps you'd someday removed it accidently ? I've removed it from my USE flags, and un-emerged it, but now I'm curious. That useflag (IMHO) only affects other applications which might be able to feed their audio to esd. So if you disable this useflag (and dont forget to rebuild ;-p), the app won't try to connect to esd anymore. So, if nobody uses esd, you can remove it. I see it now. Thanks a lot. - Grant BTW: (OT) I'm currently writing an tiny and network agnostic (9P based) audio server which should be capable of being the only application interface (making app-internal driver layers obsolete) and optionally can support other protocols (eg. esound). If anyone's interested in it, just let me know :) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. - Grant There a whole user modding community grown up around the Eee. Apparently the favoured hack is to rip the existing OS off and stick Ubuntu on, so there is no reason in the world you won't be able to get Gentoo on it. And it has no hardware inside that does not have Linux support somehow somewhere Compilation might take a while though :-) perhaps you should cross-build from an existing beefier machine Yeah how is the thing to use? How long does a firefox compile take? How is xfce on there? Is the screen and keyboard too small? Anybody work on it? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ALSA plug device
I'm trying to make sure any audio sent to my USB DAC sound card
(snd-usb-audio driver) is 16-bit/44.1khz. I plan to test with this
syntax:
# cat /root/.asoundrc
pcm.usb_audio {
type hw
card 0
}
pcm.usb_audio_44 {
type plug
slave {
pcm usb_audio
rate 44100
}
}
But I get a problems opening audio device error when writing
mpd.conf like this:
audio_output {
typealsa
nameUSB Monica
deviceusb_audio
}
That is, I can't get it to work even if specifying the hw card, so I
must have a syntax problem. I do think it's with .asoundrc. Can
anyone help me out here?
- Grant
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[gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/net postup help
I've tried a lot of stuff but I can't seem to get the postup syntax right:
postup() {
set -xv
if [[ ${IFACE} == ath0 ]] ; then
iwconfig ath0 rate 2M
fi
return 0
}
Can anybody help with this?
- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/net postup help
I've tried a lot of stuff but I can't seem to get the postup syntax
right:
postup() {
set -xv
if [[ ${IFACE} == ath0 ]] ; then
iwconfig ath0 rate 2M
fi
return 0
}
What is wrong, the syntax looks fine. Does running the iwconfig manually
after connection work?
I can't test the computer that's having the issue right now, but it
outputs some strange stuff like:
/a/t/h/0/
during boot and the rate isn't locked down. Running the command
manually definitely works. I can get more specific info on the output
tomorrow, but please let me know if anything pops into your head.
- Grant
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[gentoo-user] Downgrading glib
I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib
I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant revdep-rebuilt afterwards? Yeah revdep-rebuild only comes up with transmission (which could have needed a rebuild before messing with glib), and transmission fails to build. The main problem is with gdm. It won't load with an unresolved symbol error (I think) and won't rebuild either. Would more specific errors be helpful here or should this be approached a different way? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} Portable wireless router?
Has anyone found anything really compact that turns a wired router into a wireless router? I'm looking for something as small as possible for traveling. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DVD drive firmware version
Does anyone know how I can find the firmware version in my Lite-On DVD drive? I have an .exe file with the latest version. Impossible to use it? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD drive firmware version
Does anyone know how I can find the firmware version in my Lite-On DVD drive? I have an .exe file with the latest version. Impossible to use it? cdrecord -inq Jörg Thank you, that works great. How would you upgrade the firmware? Maybe boot to a DOS disc? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Quick script request
Feel free to ignore me here, but if anyone could whip out a quick script for this I would really appreciate it. I need to move any files from dir1 to dir2 if they don't already exist in dir2 with a slightly different filename. The dir1 files are named like a-1.jpg and the dir2 files are named like a-1_original.jpg. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Quick script request
Feel free to ignore me here, but if anyone could whip out a quick
script for this I would really appreciate it.
I need to move any files from dir1 to dir2 if they don't already
exist in dir2 with a slightly different filename. The dir1 files are
named like a-1.jpg and the dir2 files are named like
a-1_original.jpg.
- Grant
rough and ready, off the top of my head:
cd dir1
for i in *jpg
do
j = basename $i .jpg
cp -u ${j}.jpg dir2/${j}_original.jpg
done
'cp -u' works around the messy problem of checking if the destination
file exists
Thanks guys, can you tell me how to execute this? Put it in a file
and './file' I think? Should I have special stuff at the top of the
file?
- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Quick script request
Feel free to ignore me here, but if anyone could whip out a quick
script for this I would really appreciate it.
I need to move any files from dir1 to dir2 if they don't already
exist in dir2 with a slightly different filename. The dir1 files
are named like a-1.jpg and the dir2 files are named like
a-1_original.jpg.
- Grant
rough and ready, off the top of my head:
cd dir1
for i in *jpg
do
j = basename $i .jpg
cp -u ${j}.jpg dir2/${j}_original.jpg
done
'cp -u' works around the messy problem of checking if the
destination file exists
Thanks guys, can you tell me how to execute this? Put it in a file
yes
and './file' I think?
Either that or chmod a+x file and execute it directly
Should I have special stuff at the top of the
file?
#!/bin/bash
I put the above script in a file, added the appropriate header, issued
chmod, and when I execute with ./file I get a bunch of these:
./script: line 6: j: command not found
cp: cannot stat `.jpg': No such file or directory
- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Quick script request
cd dir1
for i in *jpg
do
j = basename $i .jpg
cp -u ${j}.jpg dir2/${j}_original.jpg
done
'cp -u' works around the messy problem of checking if the
destination file exists
[...]
I put the above script in a file, added the appropriate header, issued
chmod, and when I execute with ./file I get a bunch of these:
./script: line 6: j: command not found
cp: cannot stat `.jpg': No such file or directory
This:
j = basename $i .jpg
should be more like this:
j=$( basename $i .jpg )
Or: j=${i%.jpg}
That is, there must be no whitespace around the '='. And in order to set j
to the result of a command, use $( command ) or ` command `.
Worked perfectly, thanks a lot everyone.
- Grant
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[gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant, I've had a lot of problems lately upgrading ~arch and masked packages. This is expected (obviously) but 99% of the time I am able to fix them myself without going through support resources. If you're using any that are ~arch and in packages.mask perhaps that is why you're having problems too! - Brian I think you're right Brian. Of course, this is nobody's fault but mine for using ~amd64 packages, but I only pull those in if I feel I have to. Quite a few of them now though. Does it seem like ~arch packages have been more difficult lately? - Grant Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
| I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure | ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently | turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. | | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. Now that's an interesting idea. Makes sense. It sounds like I should either learn to live with stable packages only, or go all out testing. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?
My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the temperature in the case during a qt compile. Now I'm seeing all kinds of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it. Is that definitely the video card? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?
My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the temperature in the case during a qt compile. Now I'm seeing all kinds of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it. Is that definitely the video card? Sounds like it. Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink. This may be underneath the card and difficult to reach without taking it out. While you're at it, repeat the exercise on the CPU. Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being roasted. Replace it, if possible. I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts while overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it. http://www.arcticsilver.com/ I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an overclocked PIII). It's also quite possible its the PSU if your still using the same one, have you replaced it? Really, the power supply itself could be causing the video problems? I am still using the same one with the case open for ventilation. I'm about to order some stuff from New Egg. Not sure if I should include a video card now. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?
My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the temperature in the case during a qt compile. Now I'm seeing all kinds of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it. Is that definitely the video card? Sounds like it. Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink. This may be underneath the card and difficult to reach without taking it out. While you're at it, repeat the exercise on the CPU. Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being roasted. Replace it, if possible. I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts while overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it. http://www.arcticsilver.com/ I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an overclocked PIII). It's also quite possible its the PSU if your still using the same one, have you replaced it? Really, the power supply itself could be causing the video problems? I am still using the same one with the case open for ventilation. I'm about to order some stuff from New Egg. Not sure if I should include a video card now. - Grant try another power supply first if you can, it would not surprise me if its unstable power from an overheated supply causing the problem Thanks everyone. Check out the new gear: power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817171007 video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130067 CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103774 This system plays music, movies, and browses the web. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Flashing BIOS trouble
I just installed an AMD64 Athlon X2 cpu on my motherboard which was previously running an AMD64 Sempron. Now I get an error about an unknown processor from the BIOS. I can't even boot to a CD or run the BIOS setup. How can I flash the BIOS from this position? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Flashing BIOS trouble
I just installed an AMD64 Athlon X2 cpu on my motherboard which was previously running an AMD64 Sempron. Now I get an error about an unknown processor from the BIOS. I can't even boot to a CD or run the BIOS setup. How can I flash the BIOS from this position? - Grant First what the relation with Gentoo ? So i made this thread OT... And so, are you sure that your M/B is compatible with Athlon X2 ? I think you have to make your checks before trying to flash your BIOS, despite of I think that this work will be very hard because to flash your BIOS need to run some instruction, and without a processor it will be hard ! But you can try to flash it with your old processor but i don't really think this will help... IIRC, as long as a CPU fits into the socket on your motherboard, it should just work. If it doesn't I wouldn't look to the bios for answers, but the handling of the component. Is it possible you may have touched some of the contacts on the chip? If so, your CPU may be fried. This motherboard does support Athlon X2: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6id=1975 When I try to start the system, I get: Warning: Unknown Processor Revision The processor installed in your system are of an unknown revision. Please contact your BIOS vendor for appropriate updates. But that motherboard doesn't appear here: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/TechSupport.asp I'll keep looking. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Flashing BIOS trouble
But that motherboard doesn't appear here: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/TechSupport.asp Perhaps there's no need for an update or there's no one available right now. Try contacting MSI directly. They use to be very friendly (just don't mention you run Linux) I found the update I need on: http://global.msi.com.tw Now I guess I need to burn a bootable DOS CD to run the .exe file. Working on that - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Flashing BIOS trouble
But that motherboard doesn't appear here: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/TechSupport.asp Perhaps there's no need for an update or there's no one available right now. Try contacting MSI directly. They use to be very friendly (just don't mention you run Linux) I found the update I need on: http://global.msi.com.tw Now I guess I need to burn a bootable DOS CD to run the .exe file. Working on that I followed the instructions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_E1405#Firmware_Upgrade_from_DELL Here's what I did: # emerge -u mtools syslinux # echo 'drive a: file=/boot/freedos.img' /etc/mtools/mtools.conf # echo 'mtools_lower_case=1' /etc/mtools/mtools.conf # mount /boot # cp /usr/lib/syslinux/memdisk /boot # mcopy Afud408.exe a: # mcopy A7270UMS.160 a: and added this to grub.conf: title FreeDOS kernel /memdisk initrd /freedos.img I can boot into FreeDOS just fine, but when I try to run the following, it just hangs: AFUD408 A7270UMS.160 I can't say that I really understand the process I went through above. Can anyone who does understand it tell me if there could be anything about this FreeDOS environment that is preventing the BIOS utility from functioning? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] New CPU, what needs to be done?
I just upgraded from an AMD64 Sempron to an AMD64 Athlon X2. What do I need to do in software to accommodate the new CPU? Do I need to enable something in the kernel to get the dual cores working? I've read something about support for AMD's Cool and Quiet technology too. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Flashing BIOS trouble
But that motherboard doesn't appear here: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/TechSupport.asp Perhaps there's no need for an update or there's no one available right now. Try contacting MSI directly. They use to be very friendly (just don't mention you run Linux) I found the update I need on: http://global.msi.com.tw Now I guess I need to burn a bootable DOS CD to run the .exe file. Working on that I followed the instructions here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_E1405#Firmware_Upgrade_from_DELL Here's what I did: # emerge -u mtools syslinux # echo 'drive a: file=/boot/freedos.img' /etc/mtools/mtools.conf # echo 'mtools_lower_case=1' /etc/mtools/mtools.conf # mount /boot # cp /usr/lib/syslinux/memdisk /boot # mcopy Afud408.exe a: # mcopy A7270UMS.160 a: and added this to grub.conf: title FreeDOS kernel /memdisk initrd /freedos.img I can boot into FreeDOS just fine, but when I try to run the following, it just hangs: AFUD408 A7270UMS.160 I can't say that I really understand the process I went through above. Can anyone who does understand it tell me if there could be anything about this FreeDOS environment that is preventing the BIOS utility from functioning? - Grant Finally got the BIOS updated and the new CPU recognized. This did the trick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789 - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New CPU, what needs to be done?
The reason I asked is that I have been running this on my AMDX2 systems since it has been available with no noticeable degradation, and possibly a little better responsiveness. I thought maybe you had some experience with it that would contradict my experiences. I always assumed that the If unsure say no/yes in the kernel was related to being unfamiliar with the hardware you where configuring the kernel for. That said, all I can really say is that it works for me. I had it 'in' once too. And yes, it worked. But I did not see any improvements, so I took it out. I deactivate everything I do not need ... The big improvements came, when I started using Ingo Molnar's cfs ;) Thanks for the info. Running great. CFS sounds interesting. I'm reading that will be in the main kernel for 2.6.23. Still with hardened-sources-2.6.20 here, but looking forward to it. Big difference? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New CPU, what needs to be done?
The reason I asked is that I have been running this on my AMDX2 systems since it has been available with no noticeable degradation, and possibly a little better responsiveness. I thought maybe you had some experience with it that would contradict my experiences. I always assumed that the If unsure say no/yes in the kernel was related to being unfamiliar with the hardware you where configuring the kernel for. That said, all I can really say is that it works for me. I had it 'in' once too. And yes, it worked. But I did not see any improvements, so I took it out. I deactivate everything I do not need ... The big improvements came, when I started using Ingo Molnar's cfs ;) Thanks for the info. Running great. CFS sounds interesting. I'm reading that will be in the main kernel for 2.6.23. Still with hardened-sources-2.6.20 here, but looking forward to it. Big difference? short: yes long answer: not in gaming (the difference in ut2004 is not very big. Maximum FPS are a little bit lower, minimum FPS a bit higher ... ) but everywhere else is. Desktop is snappier than the 'old' scheduler. Compiling stuff in the background? Even with PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 it was very obvious that something was happening. with cfs I did an emerge -e world (after switching to gcc 4.2) some days ago - emerge running with a niceness of 0 and most of the time I did not even realize that something was happening. I needed to switch to the vt (or use htop) to check that everything was working as it should. Really, from my POV cfs is just great. It does not help with slow-as-hell-swap but that is a completly different story. Nice. I game not at all so that's no problem. This new CPU has (I think) really revealed how slow my hard disk is. It's a 320GB Seagate SATA2 (3GB/s) so it's not slow as HDs go, but it can't keep up with the CPU and memory (2GB DDR800). Whenever a video stutters or something takes a little longer than it should, the xfce4 CPU graph shows it wasn't even close to maxed out, and the memory usage is at like 300MB. I'm sure neither of those are incredibly accurate, but I think they do reveal something. Does that sounds like an IO problem to you? I could get another HD and set up RAID at some point I guess. Hopefully the CFS scheduler you're talking about will help. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. but I don't know why it wants a masked version of gcc. Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including: x11-base/xorg-x11 selected: 7.1 protected: none omitted: none x11-apps/xdm selected: 1.0.5 protected: none omitted: none If I do a pretend emerge of xorg-x11 and xdm, it want to upgrade a bunch of packages but 'emerge -pDuN world' find nothing. I have this: # equery depends xorg-x11 [ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11... ] virtual/x11-7.0-r2 (=x11-base/xorg-x11-7) The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about ImageMagick like: broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la) but then says there is nothing to rebuild. Can anyone help with fixing these problems? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the
systems does this after revdep-rebuild:
All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked.
Please post the output of: eix sys-devel/gcc
# eix sys-devel/gcc
[D] sys-devel/gcc
Available versions:
(2.95) 2.95.3-r9 ~2.95.3-r10
(3.1) 3.1.1-r2
(3.2) **3.2.2 3.2.3-r4
(3.3) 3.3.2-r7 3.3.5-r1 3.3.5.20050130-r1 3.3.6 3.3.6-r1
(3.4) ~3.4.1-r3 3.4.4-r1 3.4.5 3.4.5-r1 ~3.4.6 3.4.6-r1 3.4.6-r2
(4.0) [M]~*4.0.3 [M]~*4.0.4
(4.1) [M]~4.1.0-r1 [M]4.1.1 [M]4.1.1-r1 [M]4.1.1-r3 [M]4.1.2
(4.2) [M]~4.2.0
{X altivec bootstrap boundschecking build d doc fortran gcj
gtk hardened ip28 ip32r10k java mudflap multilib multislot n32 n64 nls
nocxx nopie nossp objc objc++ objc-gc openmp static test vanilla}
Installed versions: 3.3.6-r1(3.3)(14:15:16 02/23/07)(-altivec
-bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk hardened
-ip28 -ip32r10k -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -nopie
-nossp -objc -test -vanilla)
3.4.6-r2(3.4)(18:12:38 03/15/07)(-altivec
-bootstrap -boundschecking -build -d -doc -fortran -gcj -gtk hardened
-ip28 -ip32r10k -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -nopie
-nossp -objc -test -vanilla)
4.1.1(4.1)(04:58:00 09/06/06)(-altivec
-bootstrap -build -doc -fortran gcj gtk hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k
-mudflap -multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nls -nocxx -objc -objc++
-objc-gc -test -vanilla)
Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/
Description: The GNU Compiler Collection. Includes C/C++,
java compilers, pie+ssp extensions, Haj Ten Brugge runtime bounds
checking
[I] sys-devel/gcc-config
Available versions: 1.3.13-r4 1.3.14 1.3.15-r1 1.3.16 **1.4.0
[M]~2.0.0_rc1
Installed versions: 1.3.16(09:14:29 05/05/07)
Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/
Description: Utility to configure the active toolchain compiler
* sys-devel/gcc-nios2
Available versions: (nios2-elf-3.4) ~5.1
{multislot test}
Homepage:http://gcc.gnu.org/
Description: Compiler for Nios2 targets
Found 3 matches.
and: ls -ld /etc/make.profile
# ls -ld /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Oct 1 2006 /etc/make.profile -
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop
but I don't know why it wants a masked version of gcc. Another system
wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including:
x11-base/xorg-x11
selected: 7.1
protected: none
omitted: none
x11-apps/xdm
selected: 1.0.5
protected: none
omitted: none
Manually put both in: /var/lib/portage/world file (backup it, just in
case).
Seems you had virtual/x11 which pulled all dependencies, but not
anymore.
I don't understand why they weren't depended on by gdm and (for
example) firefox which are in my world file.
If I do a pretend emerge of xorg-x11 and xdm, it want to upgrade a
bunch of packages but 'emerge -pDuN world' find nothing. I have this:
# equery depends xorg-x11
[ Searching for packages depending on xorg-x11... ]
virtual/x11-7.0-r2 (=x11-base/xorg-x11-7)
The other system outputs a bunch of libtiff.la stuff about ImageMagick like:
broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la
(requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la)
Do you have a tiff USE-flag set ?
# eix imagemagick
[I] media-gfx/imagemagick
Available versions: 6.3.0.5 6.3.0.5-r1 6.3.3 ~6.3.4 6.3.4-r1 {X
bzip2 doc fpx graphviz gs hdri jbig jpeg jpeg2k lcms mpeg nocxx
openexr perl png q32 q8 tiff truetype wmf xml zlib}
Installed versions: 6.3.4-r1(16:38:20 06/25/07)(-X bzip2 -doc
-fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig jpeg -jpeg2k lcms -mpeg -nocxx -openexr
perl png -q32 -q8 -tiff truetype -wmf xml zlib)
Homepage:http://www.imagemagick.org/
Description: A collection of tools and libraries for many
image formats
- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. # ls -ld /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Oct 1 2006 /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop Change to latest stable profile 2007.0/Desktop: rm /etc/make.profile #ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop /etc/make.profile My mistake. That system used this profile: /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/x86/2.6 although I just changed it to: /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/x86/2.6/minimal because that sounds cooler. Does the hardened profile have something to do with it wanting the masked gcc? Try reinstalling 'imagemagick'check if 'media-libs/tiff' is installed. Re-emerging imagemagick doesn't seem to fix it, and media-libs/tiff is not installed. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Another system wants to unmerge a bunch of crucial stuff with --depclean, including: x11-base/xorg-x11 selected: 7.1 protected: none omitted: none x11-apps/xdm selected: 1.0.5 protected: none omitted: none Manually put both in: /var/lib/portage/world file (backup it, just in case). Seems you had virtual/x11 which pulled all dependencies, but not anymore. I don't understand why they weren't depended on by gdm and (for example) firefox which are in my world file. X applications doesn't need to depend on X server. You can run them remotely from machine where X server is installed. Shouldn't gdm depend on xdm though? Do I need xorg-x11 on a typical desktop system? My laptop doesn't seem to think it is installed at all: [ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.2 broken /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la (requires /usr/lib/libtiff.la) I think these files does not belong to ImageMagick anymore. They are some leftovers from previous version (however I don't understand why they were not deleted). I had same issue with k3b. Check them with equery belongs /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/filters/analyze.la Ok, that's what I'll do there. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Shouldn't gdm depend on xdm though? In the same way that vim depends on emacs. gdm and xdm (also kdm) are different programs to fdo the same basic job, there's no reason for one to depend on the other. I didn't know that, thanks. Do I need xorg-x11 on a typical desktop system? My laptop doesn't seem to think it is installed at all: Probably because it isn't, because you don't need it. Ok, what does xorg-x11 do? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Do I need xorg-x11 on a typical desktop system? My laptop doesn't seem to think it is installed at all: Probably because it isn't, because you don't need it. Ok, what does xorg-x11 do? It's meta package that installs xorg-server and some basic X11 stuff. Look into the ebuild and you'll understand. I think it is good to have it installed on a typical desktop system. Thanks Robert. Here's another one I just ran into. --depclean wants to remove madwifi-ng, but I also get this: # equery depends madwifi-ng [ Searching for packages depending on madwifi-ng... ] net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-0.5.7 (kernel_linux madwifi? net-wireless/madwifi-ng) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
Three of my systems are having package management trouble. One of the systems does this after revdep-rebuild: All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1 have been masked. # ls -ld /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Oct 1 2006 /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/desktop Change to latest stable profile 2007.0/Desktop: rm /etc/make.profile #ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop /etc/make.profile My mistake. That system used this profile: /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/x86/2.6 although I just changed it to: /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/x86/2.6/minimal because that sounds cooler. Does the hardened profile have something to do with it wanting the masked gcc? Quite the contrary. The hardened is incompatible with gcc 4.x. Thus =sys-devel/gcc-4* is masked in all profiles under hardened. Since you have 4.1.1 installed and no versions in that slot are unmasked it's complaining. I think there's a hardened handbook that you should probably read if you want to use a hardened profile. Switching from non-hardened to hardened is a lot more involved than changing the symlink. I think this system (firewall/router) has been on the hardened profile from day 1. Maybe that gcc wasn't always masked in the profile. Should I 'emerge -C =gcc-4.1.1'? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage annoyances
('kernel_linux' is some internal USE flag which is probably automatically
set if you are using linux kernel).
It's set by your profile via USE_EXPAND (KERNEL=linux).
Then why does --depclean want to remove madwifi-ng?
# equery depends madwifi-ng
[ Searching for packages depending on madwifi-ng... ]
net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-0.5.7 (kernel_linux madwifi?
net-wireless/madwifi-ng)
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[gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... I do use the nvidia driver. The Xid error would be in dmesg? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... No Xid error. I did have this: warning: many lost ticks Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interrupts and then a whole bunch of these: TCP: Treason uncloaked! - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... No Xid error. I did have this: warning: many lost ticks Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interrupts This issue is discussed here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=191716 and then a whole bunch of these: TCP: Treason uncloaked! This issue is discussed here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=354939 I'm going to start a new thread about that. Hopefully one or both of these problems is causing my video/sound stuttering issue. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
and then a whole bunch of these: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Hmm, are you running a server? This sounds like a DOS attack (someone probably spoofing an address and then reducing their window size to 0, so that your machine keeps trying to send them the packet over over again). You should be able to tweak your IP tables to identify such phony addresses and block them. Someone more clued up on server attacks ought to help out here. This guy looks as if he has looked into it . . . and then some! http://www.informedbanking.com/acc/nxwiki/view/TCP-Treason-Uncloaked.html Nice find. Very thorough, but he concludes with this: Still happening. Happened this morning at 6:00AM on eth2, when there was no traffic control running, ruling out the possibility that it could be caused by that. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Treason uncloaked! solution?
Sometimes I get Treason uncloaked! in dmesg when running bittorrent. The solution here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=127984 is: You'd best set iptables to block all packets from BOGON networks (nets that shouldn't exist) so you can avoid this type of attack. You may find a list of bogon nets here. Note: unallocated nets change from time to time! Just in November IANA allocated two more blocks to RIPE, so you really need to pay attention if you're blocking all bogon IPs. Which doesn't sound great. What would you guys recommend I do? I use a Gentoo router. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... No Xid error. I did have this: warning: many lost ticks Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interrupts ok, do you have a working hpet? or do you have compiled pm-timer support into your kernel (you should)? and set hdparm -u1 for your ide devices? There is no mention of hpet in dmesg or lspci, but I do have: CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y CONFIG_HZ_1000=y CONFIG_HZ=1000 Where can I find pm-timer support in the kernel? There doesn't seem to be a mention of it in .config. I'm using hardened-sources-2.6.20-r6. I just set up hdparm with: all_args=-d1 -u1 and added it to the default runlevel. Any other args I should add? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... No Xid error. I did have this: warning: many lost ticks Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interrupts ok, do you have a working hpet? or do you have compiled pm-timer support into your kernel (you should)? and set hdparm -u1 for your ide devices? I switched hdparm to the boot runlevel and there are no errors, but I only noticed hdparm output regarding hda (CDROM) and not sda (SATA HD). Is there a way to verify that sda is configured properly as far as hdparm? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... No Xid error. I did have this: warning: many lost ticks Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interrupts ok, do you have a working hpet? or do you have compiled pm-timer support into your kernel (you should)? and set hdparm -u1 for your ide devices? There is no mention of hpet in dmesg or lspci, but I do have: CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y CONFIG_HZ_1000=y CONFIG_HZ=1000 I am using Hz 300... smooth video... and voluntary preemption. Just switched to those. Where can I find pm-timer support in the kernel? There doesn't seem to be a mention of it in .config. I'm using hardened-sources-2.6.20-r6. Power management options --- ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support --- [*] Power Management Timer Support Help text: CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER: That's weird, I don't have that option in menuconfig or .config at all. Nothing matches PM_TIMER. oh, and check that the hpet really works - dmesg is your friend. There is no mention of hpet or HPET in dmesg. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video stutters until system restarted
I'm running an amd64 athlon x2 2.6ghz with 2gb ram and video playback stutters if I try to play a video after the system has been running for awhile, even after closing all programs. Restarting always fixes it. How would you track this down? - Grant Look at your RAM usage with free -m (the second line is interesting). Look at your log files (especially dmesg) for anything suspicious. Maybe your graphic card's driver fell back to a compatibility mode or something like that. or (in case of NVIDIA) it has thrown a 'Xid' error - after that you can be called lucky if video works at all ... No Xid error. I did have this: warning: many lost ticks Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interrupts ok, do you have a working hpet? or do you have compiled pm-timer support into your kernel (you should)? and set hdparm -u1 for your ide devices? There is no mention of hpet in dmesg or lspci, but I do have: CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y CONFIG_HZ_1000=y CONFIG_HZ=1000 I am using Hz 300... smooth video... and voluntary preemption. Just switched to those. Where can I find pm-timer support in the kernel? There doesn't seem to be a mention of it in .config. I'm using hardened-sources-2.6.20-r6. Power management options --- ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support --- [*] Power Management Timer Support Help text: CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER: That's weird, I don't have that option in menuconfig or .config at all. Nothing matches PM_TIMER. ok, that is wired. I have attached my config (you can ignore the parts about reiser4 ;) ) oh, and check that the hpet really works - dmesg is your friend. There is no mention of hpet or HPET in dmesg. then you don't have one. And without hpet, pm-timer or any other really usefull timesource you are in deep shit mode. Do you mind posting your dmesg? In your case I would remove the kernel sources, reinstall them, and start with a new, clean config - I had a severe case of 'why are half of my options missing' a few weeks ago ... Ok, I'll give that a try if I still get the lost ticks tonight. Thanks everyone for the help. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} wput with weird characters
I need to periodically upload a file to an ftp server, but the password they've issued me has a '!' and a '' character in it. I tried escaping those characters like this: wput -A file.txt ftp://username:abc\!123\@ftp.example.com/file.txt but then it tells me the password isn't correct. How can I use a password like that with wput? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} wput with weird characters
I need to periodically upload a file to an ftp server, but the password they've issued me has a '!' and a '' character in it. I tried escaping those characters like this: wput -A file.txt ftp://username:abc\!123\@ftp.example.com/file.txt Did you try using ' around the whole argument? Like wput -A ... 'ftp://txt'? That did it. Thanks everyone! - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT?} software audio equalizer
I'd like to adjust the sound levels coming out of my computer in a manner similar to an equalizer. I'm using a Sound Blaster Live and alsamixer only has the standard bass/treble adjustment available. Is there a way to get a more fine-grained control over the sound before it hits the sound card? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Oddities in apache2 update, other init bizarrity.
Stable x86 just got a new apache server, and it's puzzling me. For one thing, /etc/conf.d/apache2 now ends with this # Environment variables to keep # All environment variables are cleared from apache # Use this to preserve some of them # NOTE!!! It's very important that this contains PATH # TODO: Phase this out in favor of /etc/conf.d/env_whitelist #KEEPENV=PATH It has said all along that it's important to have PATH, but now it's commented out without any replacement in env_whitelist. Moreover, there's no example in env_whitelist to show the syntax. I just put PATH in there on a line of its own, and hoped for the best. The bigger puzzle is this one: I can't stop apache because it can't be found, but I also can't start it because it's already running. It is in fact running and serving web pages. But I'd like the init stuff to be a lot more consistent. I had the same problem yesterday, but rebooting the machine fixed it. As for the KEEPENV, I was puzzled by that too but I didn't add anything to env_whitelist and I left KEEPENV commented. Everything seems to be fine. Today apache2 wants to upgrade to 2.2.4-r12. I've got cold feet. Anyone tried this yet? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Oddities in apache2 update, other init bizarrity.
Today apache2 wants to upgrade to 2.2.4-r12. I've got cold feet. Anyone tried this yet? a few minutes, 8 config file updates (i didn't let it update /etc/conf.d/apache2 or /etc/apache2/httpd.conf), and apache2 didn't restart. modules appear to have changed names. Working on fixing now. Kindly, apache2 didn't stop working before it checked config, so my site hasn't even gone down yet ; ) However any advice would be appreciated as far as tracking down what I should have saved from the new httpd.conf Any luck? Can you just re-emerge the package and go through etc-update properly? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] apache2 upgrade SSL and logging questions
I had some major trouble with the latest apache2 upgrade this morning but it's all working now. I do have a couple questions though. I have 3 SSL config files now: /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_ssl_vhost.conf /etc/apache2/modules.d/40_mod_ssl.conf /etc/apache2/modules.d/41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf I've renamed 00_default_ssl_vhost.conf for now so it won't be loaded because it was conflicting with 41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf. Should I have kept 00_default_ssl_vhost.conf and removed 41_mod_ssl.default-vhost.conf instead? Which one is now the standard Gentoo file? Also, I've always logged to '/var/log/apache2/' but after the upgrade apache2 wanted to log to '/usr/lib/apache2/logs/'. That makes sense looking at the 'logs/' config paths, but my backups also specify 'logs/'. Confusing. I changed those paths to '/var/log/apache2/' and now everything is logging fine. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I also noticed many POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! log entries for usernames that don't exist. Anything I should do about that? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I had a similar issue after a previous update to ssh when I went to restart it to get it to use the new binaries. One of the nice features of sshd is that your current session will say active even if you kill the sshd daemon process. Of course, if you get disconnected then you will not be able to log back in, so it's good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same time. OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes in 'ps -ef': root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
This process is the ssh daemon: root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd Two things: before killing the process with the KILL signal, I would try killing it with TERM kill -TERM 2988 If that doesn't work then kill the process with the KILL signal. I would also use: /etc/init.d/sshd restart This will give the init script a chance to do some cleanup work before restarting Do this: kill -TERM 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart and if that doesn't work, do: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart ? - Grant I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I had a similar issue after a previous update to ssh when I went to restart it to get it to use the new binaries. One of the nice features of sshd is that your current session will say active even if you kill the sshd daemon process. Of course, if you get disconnected then you will not be able to log back in, so it's good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same time. OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes in 'ps -ef': root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Yes. As a personal preference I don't usually chain commands together when trouble shooting something, but there is technically nothing wrong with doing so. And now I'm locked out. What do you think guys? - Grant This process is the ssh daemon: root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd Two things: before killing the process with the KILL signal, I would try killing it with TERM kill -TERM 2988 If that doesn't work then kill the process with the KILL signal. I would also use: /etc/init.d/sshd restart This will give the init script a chance to do some cleanup work before restarting Do this: kill -TERM 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart and if that doesn't work, do: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart ? - Grant I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I had a similar issue after a previous update to ssh when I went to restart it to get it to use the new binaries. One of the nice features of sshd is that your current session will say active even if you kill the sshd daemon process. Of course, if you get disconnected then you will not be able to log back in, so it's good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same time. OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes in 'ps -ef': root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Yes. As a personal preference I don't usually chain commands together when trouble shooting something, but there is technically nothing wrong with doing so. And now I'm locked out. What do you think guys? - Grant Is your ssh session still open? I wish. :) 100% locked out. Connection refused. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
My host is pretty good about issuing commands for me. Any ideas there? - Grant start sshd manually to get back in. something like '/usr/bin/sshd -p 3' (that would listen on port 3 for ssh connections) (absolute path is necessary for re-exec) I still don't know what happened; here's what I can do: === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last login: Mon Sep 10 14:23:18 2007 from pascal.spore.ath.cx davey ~ # ps -eaf | grep sshd root 28869 1 0 14:23 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 29147 28869 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 root 29173 29152 0 14:34 pts/000:00:00 grep --colour=auto sshd davey ~ # kill -9 28869 davey ~ # ps -eaf | grep sshd root 29147 1 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 root 29186 29152 0 14:35 pts/000:00:00 grep --colour=auto sshd davey ~ # /etc/init.d/sshd restart * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] davey ~ # /etc/init.d/sshd zap * Manually resetting sshd to stopped state. davey ~ # /etc/init.d/sshd start * Starting sshd ... [ ok ] davey ~ # exit logout Connection to davey closed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last login: Mon Sep 10 14:34:26 2007 from pascal.spore.ath.cx davey ~ # exit logout Connection to davey closed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ = as you can see, it worked fine for me. I even make sure to use -9. good luck, grant Thank you but doesn't it look like there must be a problem that is preventing my sshd from starting? Won't '/usr/bin/sshd -p 3' just fail, or is that more likely to work than '/etc/init.d/sshd start'? Also, is '/usr/bin/sshd' sufficient? Why not port 22? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
If there's a problem with ssh, then you're pretty much stuck with using other remote terminal tool to fix it, else, you can simply kill the process, delete the PID file, then /etc/init.d/sshd zap and /etc/init.d/sshd restart, or start, anyway... (I guess your host could easily issue this commands for you). What about just having them reboot and start my manual daemon? Would that accomplish the same thing? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
For Grant: I reread the init script for sshd, and I know see what was most likely the problem. The init script, now, tries to kill all instances with the process name of sshd, not just the daemon (as specified by the pid file). This is why you were locked out when trying to restart the daemon. If you can restart the machine, everything should be working fine after a reboot. This behavior differs from every other distro of linux that I have used, and with previous versions of the init script. Sorry I missed that before emailing the list last time. That's alright, I really appreciate your attention. One thing though. Your init script discovery doesn't explain why sshd wouldn't restart (stop actually) when I was logged in does it? Given that, do you still think restarting is the way to go? I'm just trying to make sure I don't restart and still not have access. That would be bad because there is a crucial daemon running now that won't come up automatically. Please tell me what you think. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Thank you but doesn't it look like there must be a problem that is preventing my sshd from starting? Won't '/usr/bin/sshd -p 3' just fail, or is that more likely to work than '/etc/init.d/sshd start'? It seems to me that the problem is probably the initscript is confused, and not that the config files are bad and the daemon can't start. Also, is '/usr/bin/sshd' sufficient? Why not port 22? It is. No reason at all. But if you started it before the original ssh server had been stopped, you'd have to start it on a different port so that it didn't conflict with the original. Guys, I'm in! I had my host execute: sshd and now I'm logged in, the sshd initscript was already running, and it restarts perfectly. All is well! Thank you for your help! How does my host get root access like that? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
How does my host get root access like that? Physical access to the box = root in many cases. Also, if it's some vserver type setup, root on the host can get root access on the guest machines. Ok, thanks again everyone. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Hacked by association?
Last night my host sent out a message that their database had been compromised. I contacted them this morning and it turns out that all of their trouble tickets were exposed. I checked my records and (stupidly) I had included my root password in an email to them about a year ago. I (stupidly) hadn't changed the password since. I've changed it now and rebooted the system, but what do you think? Do I need to start this thing over? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hacked by association?
Last night my host sent out a message that their database had been compromised. I contacted them this morning and it turns out that all of their trouble tickets were exposed. I checked my records and (stupidly) I had included my root password in an email to them about a year ago. I (stupidly) hadn't changed the password since. I've changed it now and rebooted the system, but what do you think? Do I need to start this thing over? - Grant I think you should take a look at the programs that are running, and netstat -l, and see if anything is fishy. I recognize everything in 'ps -ef' I think, but I've never really used netstat before. Under Active Internet connections I don't recognize: tcp localhost:10030 tcp *:snpp I don't recognize most of the paths under UNIX domain sockets. Anything particular I should look for? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hacked by association?
I recognize everything in 'ps -ef' I think, but I've never really used netstat before. Under Active Internet connections I don't recognize: tcp localhost:10030 tcp *:snpp Also, snpp is for pagers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Paging_Protocol With netstat -lp it looks like *:snpp is associated with apache2 and is using the same pid as *:http and *:https. I've never set up anything having to do with a pager. I've never had a pager. What can I do to investigate that further? Then run lsof (check man lsof) to see if there is anything suspicious there, like another user logged in either as root or with a different name. Any handy lsof commands? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hacked by association?
Last night my host sent out a message that their database had been compromised. I contacted them this morning and it turns out that all of their trouble tickets were exposed. I checked my records and (stupidly) I had included my root password in an email to them about a year ago. I (stupidly) hadn't changed the password since. I've changed it now and rebooted the system, but what do you think? Do I need to start this thing over? equery check sys-process/procps equery check sys-apps/coreutils These check out. Make sure that none of the executable files have changed. Also, emerge and run app-forensics/rkhunter chkrootkit reports no problems whatsoever which is actually kind of weird as I remember some things being reported last time I ran it, but I looked into them then and they weren't a problem. rkhunter reports no problems but it says it couldn't determine the OS so MD5 checks were skipped. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hacked by association?
I recognize everything in 'ps -ef' I think, but I've never really used netstat before. Under Active Internet connections I don't recognize: tcp localhost:10030 tcp *:snpp Also, snpp is for pagers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Paging_Protocol With netstat -lp it looks like *:snpp is associated with apache2 and is using the same pid as *:http and *:https. I've never set up anything having to do with a pager. I've never had a pager. What can I do to investigate that further? This snpp pager thing is the weirdest thing I've found. It sounds like the kind of thing I would know if I set up. Someone has some kind of pager alert installed on my system? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hacked by association?
tcp localhost:10030 tcp *:snpp [...] With netstat -lp it looks like *:snpp is associated with apache2 and is using the same pid as *:http and *:https. If that's so, then there should be a Listen directive in httpd.conf or one of the included files. Do a grep -r 444 /etc/apache2 444 is the number associated with snpp. And you solved it. I use that port (443 + 1) for a second https Location /. Thank you, I didn't know snpp used 444. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] python-2.5
I had to upgrade to python-2.5 for a media app called listen and now I'm having trouble with another media app called miro. I think I need to downgrade to python-2.4, but I'm confused by the slotting behavior. Right now emerge -pv python tells me I have python-2.4.4-r4 installed but I know I upgraded to 2.5. How should I handle this? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hacked by association?
Do I need to start this thing over? yes. No tool can tell you for certain, that no malware is rampage on your system. netstat, ps, emerge might be hacked already. As might be md5sum and other tools to generate and compare ckecksums. There is only one way to make sure your system is clean: reinstallation Although I haven't found any evidence of intrusion, I've been urged off-list to reinstall and since I'm about 4 hours early to rise this morning I think I better. Can we go over a good plan for the transition? My main concerns are backing up the right files and a good remote installation procedure as it's been years since I did that. Thanks. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
Hello, As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? - Grant You are probably asking more than their terms of service *require* them to provide, especially if they don't believe the leaked information was used for any nefarious activity. However a reasonable webhost who accepts responsibility for its mistakes and values its customers would probably grant such a request as a gesture of goodwill - unless they were worried about opening the floodgates for every customer to request such treatment, a scenario which would likely leave them unable to comply even if they wanted to. As a side note, although I agree with all the comments about 'never been sure' a system is still clean, did you check whether there was actually any root logins to your server not from your IP since the breach? If I was in your situation and could confirm that no root logins occurred (via ssh, ftp, cpanel, whatever else is running) from other ip's I'd probably rest easy just changing my password. Wouldn't it be trivial for them to edit the logs though? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5
did you run python-updater after you upgraded to the version 2.5 ? If not that might help ! Hi Boris, I did run python-updater. Where I'm stuck at this point is downgrading python back to 2.4. Not sure how that's done with slotting behavior. - Grant I had to upgrade to python-2.5 for a media app called listen and now I'm having trouble with another media app called miro. I think I need to downgrade to python-2.4, but I'm confused by the slotting behavior. Right now emerge -pv python tells me I have python-2.4.4-r4 installed but I know I upgraded to 2.5. How should I handle this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? Information that was valuable leaked because they screw it, so, no matter what terms of service say, they must fix their own mistakes. If the machine crashes, the data center is burned down to the ground or the manager's kid pull the plug on the main server, that's a situation where they can say not our fault, deal with it. But in your case their support system had a breach, and thus its their fault. They must provide you the means to ensure that YOUR information is safe, cause they caused the incident in the first place. You're unsure about your information, and information is money. If I were you I would be backing up my data by now, would then request a physical backup and after I get it: 1) Send them email about the actions I'm about to take. 2) Move away from their services and look for a better server. 3) Write a cool blog entry about their services and how secure they are. Of course they could answer the (1) email granting your requests and maybe you wouldn't have to take steps (2) and (3). Happened to me once. I couldn't agree more. It feels like I should have a legal recourse in this situation. My Dad is a lawyer but has no knowledge of technical matters. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? - Grant Would it be unreasonable to tell us who this host is? I want to make sure I don't host any sites on their system; if they can't secure their work tickets, what makes anybody think they can secure anything else? I'm taking a guess it's these guys: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/19/layered_technologies_breach_disclosure/ - Noven Bingo. They sent me another message with an offer that could be what I asked for. It was vague. I replied and lookie here: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/local/sbin/cerberus /usr/local/etc/config.xml FATAL /var/log/cerberus.log I guess that means they're working on the system. I'll try to send again. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had been broken into. I checked my records and found that my root password had previously been submitted in a support ticket. I then decided I needed to reinstall my system. I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5 days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn the old system over to them and continue with the new system. My request was denied! I'm blown away by this. Was I asking too much? - Grant Would it be unreasonable to tell us who this host is? I want to make sure I don't host any sites on their system; if they can't secure their work tickets, what makes anybody think they can secure anything else? I'm taking a guess it's these guys: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/19/layered_technologies_breach_disclosure/ - Noven Bingo. They sent me another message with an offer that could be what I asked for. It was vague. So much for that. I understand sir. Unfortunately I'm about out of rope in this situation. The only thing I can really provide to you at this point, is the oppertunity to flag this for the management team, and allow them to speak with you directly. I'll move forward and make sure this gets marked correctly for them. Please understand that as they work M-F 9 AM - 5 PM CST, it could be some time before you are able to get a response from them. Your patience and cooperation is greatly appreciated. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
So much for that. I understand sir. Unfortunately I'm about out of rope in this situation. The only thing I can really provide to you at this point, is the oppertunity to flag this for the management team, and allow them to speak with you directly. I'll move forward and make sure this gets marked correctly for them. Please understand that as they work M-F 9 AM - 5 PM CST, it could be some time before you are able to get a response from them. Your patience and cooperation is greatly appreciated. Customer service in the Internet age :( I would find a new host, but that's just me. Any recommendations? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
Customer service in the Internet age :( I would find a new host, but that's just me. Any recommendations? Couldn't you host your own server in the loft or the garage, using an old box for the job? A car battery + inverter for UPS (all second hand of course) should see you good for not much more than the cheapest of most ISP packages per year. The catch here is that access speed may not be as good as the more centralised fiber optic data centers with their load sharing, 8 CPU monsters, but as I assume that you are not running amazon or google you should be OK. ;-) It may be worth checking with your domestic DSL/cable ISP that they do not throttle traffic and that they allow you to run a server in their TCs. I have a dedicated server now and I'll never use a shared system again. I think the problem would be the internet connection. I've heard that most ISPs block port 80 so you can't run a webserver from a home connection. I think business connections are expensive. I'm only paying $75/month now. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please
I have a dedicated server now and I'll never use a shared system again. I think the problem would be the internet connection. I've heard that most ISPs block port 80 so you can't run a webserver from a home connection. I think business connections are expensive. I'm only paying $75/month now. - Grant $75/month is more than it costs to get a business-level cable or DSL line w/ a static ip in my area. The dsl guys couldn't guarantee speeds better than 256k both ways, but Comcast was happy to sell me loads of bandwith. Their package was around that for the 8mb down / 768kb up , + a static IP. The only catch was the hefty two hundred fifty dollar installation fee that was waived only with a 2 year commitment. FWIW, many isp's also _don't_ block port 80. In fact, the DHCP ips of both my friends on DSL and myself seem entirely open. One friend of mine has configured his router with hosts.deny, and therefore he has no true firewall; I can even get through on the finger port, telnet, smtp, ssh -- everything. On my home server (comcast cable), I am very happy to say that not only are all the ports open, but my connection is actually pretty good for my very low traffic needs. ( spore.ath.cx is being hosted from my linen closet; see the speed yourself). If you want me to run a port map on your ip address, feel free to send me your IP address. So don't think that it's really expensive to have a do-it-yourself solution in your garage or something, at least not too quickly. That sounds awesome from a DIY perspective, but this server provides 100% of my income and I feel like it should be hosted. Maybe I'm wrong. Does anyone else house a money-critical server in their home? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Strange apache2 access_log entries
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log: 127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470 I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second. Connection to/from localhost. Do you have some process running on the same server that's doing monitoring? The 400 reply is even more interesting. I think the request should be GET / HTTP/1.1 or similar which is probably why it is returning a 400. I'm not doing any sort of monitoring like that. What is that 470? I noticed the log entries always include that, at least for the last 10 days. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
