Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

[David Moore]

Hi!
To high light the address bar, press
Alt+D, not CTRL+D
CTRL+D allows you to save a favorite or bookmark depending on the browser.
So again:
Press Alt+D, then:
Press CTRL+C.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Samuel White
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

Control + d then control + c

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:23 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

Could someone please refresh my memory as to what the Jaws Keystrokes are
for highlighting the address bar and copying it to the clipboard.  Thanks,
Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MalwareBytes Download Link From MWB Website + Some of the Fixes

[wayne smith]

Sounds good Mike. Is this the free or paid version?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:21 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MalwareBytes Download Link From MWB Website + Some of
the Fixes

Hi All,

Click on the link below to get the latest version download straight from
MWB's website, which is much more accessible with Jaws:


https://downloads.malwarebytes.com/file/mb3/

list of 7 items
. Fixed issue where the Malwarebytes tray application showed in ALT+Tab list

. Improved Web Protection compatibility with third-party applications

. Improved driver management

. Fixed issue where certain notifications would not display properly after 
waking from sleep

. Fixed issue on XP where Chameleon files were not fully uninstalled

. Fixed a crash related to rootkit scanning

. Addressed other miscellaneous user interface improvements and defects
list end

The above are a few of the fixes, if you want to know / read more you'll 
need to go to their website.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] MalwareBytes Download Link From MWB Website + Some of the Fixes

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Click on the link below to get the latest version download straight from 
MWB's website, which is much more accessible with Jaws:


https://downloads.malwarebytes.com/file/mb3/

list of 7 items
. Fixed issue where the Malwarebytes tray application showed in ALT+Tab list

. Improved Web Protection compatibility with third-party applications

. Improved driver management

. Fixed issue where certain notifications would not display properly after 
waking from sleep

. Fixed issue on XP where Chameleon files were not fully uninstalled

. Fixed a crash related to rootkit scanning

. Addressed other miscellaneous user interface improvements and defects
list end

The above are a few of the fixes, if you want to know / read more you'll 
need to go to their website.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

[Inam Uddin]

Windows 10 mail app.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

Hi,

What is your e--mail program?  I am using Outlook with no issues so far.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's 
New

Now its time for me to report two very disturbing bugs.
The first bugg was already fixed in JAWS 18 and it has returned in the latest 
update of JAWS 2018.
Secondly when I try to reply to any mail, I cannot read what I type.
At the moment when I’m replying this mail, I’m using Narrator.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list of 
improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December 2017 
update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from seeing 
what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This feature is 
available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the PRINTSCREEN 
key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. 
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once 
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade 
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade can 
also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the 
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only 
available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running 
Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS 
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other actions 
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces 
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, mouse 
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text that 
you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as you type. 
You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using a 
convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default speech 
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can see 
well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be 
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users 
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a location 
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or 
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these 
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that switching 
applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a document are 
silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading commands 
such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or doing a Say 
All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Judy Jones]

Hi,

What is your e--mail program?  I am using Outlook with no issues so far.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's 
New

Now its time for me to report two very disturbing bugs.
The first bugg was already fixed in JAWS 18 and it has returned in the latest 
update of JAWS 2018.
Secondly when I try to reply to any mail, I cannot read what I type.
At the moment when I’m replying this mail, I’m using Narrator.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list of 
improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December 2017 
update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from seeing 
what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This feature is 
available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the PRINTSCREEN 
key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. 
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once 
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade 
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade can 
also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the 
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only 
available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running 
Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS 
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other actions 
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces 
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, mouse 
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text that 
you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as you type. 
You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using a 
convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default speech 
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can see 
well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be 
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users 
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a location 
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or 
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these 
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that switching 
applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a document are 
silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading commands 
such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or doing a Say 
All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full 
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus braille 
display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle between 
Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to 
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these 
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default settings, 
do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it 
from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[Judy Jones]

Oh my goodness, lets not start drama, no matter how courteously couched.  All 
Mike did was share links.  He gave you some practical information.  Noone is 
mad or upset, so please move on.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Respected friend, after reading your response, I think that you are angry with 
me.
First of all, I’m unconditionally begging you that please forgive me of that 
what I said about you!
The matter of fact is that I saw your email and without thinking anything I 
have downloaded and installed and then I found this bugg which really disturbes 
me a lot.
For reading another email I have no choice other than to switch another screen 
reader or to install JAWS 18 as well which I have already un installed.
I only said that in place of you, if I want to share anything with a mailing 
list I must test it first then I need to share anything with others.
Being a member of mailing list, it is my moral responsibility!
At the end all I can say is that I’m not here to criticize, but I’m here to 
share useful informations with others.
I sincerely hope that you will understand me and forgive me for what I said 
about you!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Hi Inamuddin,

It would be impossible for 1 person to test these updates.  Everyone would have 
to be running the same operating systems, programs, use the same settings., 
& that still wouldn't satisfy everyone!  Alittle tought before making such a 
statement as you have done needs to take a little more thought.  If you would 
like to take up the cause, go for it!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew


Dear friend, it is not the matter of likeness or dislikeness but it is the 
matter of betterment.
If my advice hurts you, I’m really very sorry for that, but trust me whatever I 
said, it was just for the betterment of you and this list!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If 
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they don't 
know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think you can do 
a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do this to save 
people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass on the 
information most list members from this list & from other lists'
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or do 
all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's 
New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Rick Justice]

Make sure you report these problems to VFO, because if they are bugs, they 
would be the ones to correct it.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Inam Uddin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


Now its time for me to report two very disturbing bugs.
The first bugg was already fixed in JAWS 18 and it has returned in the 
latest update of JAWS 2018.
Secondly when I try to reply to any mail, I cannot read what I type.
At the moment when I’m replying this mail, I’m using Narrator.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's 
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition,
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default
speech
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a
location
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that
switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a
document
are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading
commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or
doing
a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus
braille
display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle between
Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default
settings,
do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it
from the Application list. 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mary,
In most cases, at the beginning of a Jaws install,
the user is advised to make sure all screen-readers and magnification 
programs are shut down before continuing with the install.
That being said, I always have Jaws running during an install,
but using a different screen-reader could have unexpected side effects.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


This is probably a stupid question 


I have downloaded the update for Jaws 2018 that came out today. Because
of issues I was having, I've been using NVDA exclusively, but I want to
install this build and see if it helps. Can I do so with NVDA running?
Is JAWS smart enough to know I have a screen reader running and don't
want its self voicing install? Then once it is installed, I assume it
goes over the top of my existing 2018 and when I launch it, any settings
I saved will be present, and I can see how this new build goes??


Thanks.


And yes. Go Blue! Dodgers in 2018!


Mary


On 12/12/2017 4:45 PM, wayne smith wrote:
> Hey Mike! You da man!  We all appreciate you so just let it pass and keep 
> on
> giving us all the good stuff.  You are great like lots of others and that 
> is
> why we can live with your Dodgers issues.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
> What's New
>
> Hi Inamuddin,
>
> Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them! 
> If
> you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
> don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
> you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
> this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to 
> pass
> on the information most list members from this list & from other lists'
> appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, 
> or
> do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Inam Uddin
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
> What's New
>
>
> Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
> information?
> Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
> it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
> The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
> of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email 
> we
> are trying to read, it will read the first email!
> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
> Charlsdarwin1
>
>
> Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
> At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
> You can contact me via gmail:
> inamuddi...@gmail.com
> inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
> outlook:
> inam...@outlook.com
> yahoo:
> inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
> Add my Skype ID:
> charlsdarwin1
> Meet me on facebook:
> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
> Follow me on my twitter ID:
> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
> Call me on my cell numbers:
> +92-300-2227598
> +92-334-3348409
>
> From: Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
> To: Jaws-Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
> New
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:
>
> 32 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe
>
> 64 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe
>
> Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list 
> of
> improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
> 2017 update.
>
> Screen Shade for Additional Privacy
>
> For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
> seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
> feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.
>
> To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
> PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
> Alternatively,
> Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). 
> Once
> enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen 
> Shade
> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi Again Mary,

I just updated both Jaws 18 & J2018 without either of them running & using 
NVDA without any problems.  Just pay close attention because you will have 2 
different voices talking to you.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


This is probably a stupid question 


I have downloaded the update for Jaws 2018 that came out today. Because
of issues I was having, I've been using NVDA exclusively, but I want to
install this build and see if it helps. Can I do so with NVDA running?
Is JAWS smart enough to know I have a screen reader running and don't
want its self voicing install? Then once it is installed, I assume it
goes over the top of my existing 2018 and when I launch it, any settings
I saved will be present, and I can see how this new build goes??


Thanks.


And yes. Go Blue! Dodgers in 2018!


Mary


On 12/12/2017 4:45 PM, wayne smith wrote:
> Hey Mike! You da man!  We all appreciate you so just let it pass and keep 
> on
> giving us all the good stuff.  You are great like lots of others and that 
> is
> why we can live with your Dodgers issues.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
> What's New
>
> Hi Inamuddin,
>
> Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them! 
> If
> you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
> don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
> you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
> this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to 
> pass
> on the information most list members from this list & from other lists'
> appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, 
> or
> do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Inam Uddin
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
> What's New
>
>
> Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
> information?
> Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
> it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
> The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
> of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email 
> we
> are trying to read, it will read the first email!
> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
> Charlsdarwin1
>
>
> Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
> At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
> You can contact me via gmail:
> inamuddi...@gmail.com
> inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
> outlook:
> inam...@outlook.com
> yahoo:
> inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
> Add my Skype ID:
> charlsdarwin1
> Meet me on facebook:
> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
> Follow me on my twitter ID:
> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
> Call me on my cell numbers:
> +92-300-2227598
> +92-334-3348409
>
> From: Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
> To: Jaws-Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
> New
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:
>
> 32 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe
>
> 64 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe
>
> Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list 
> of
> improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
> 2017 update.
>
> Screen Shade for Additional Privacy
>
> For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
> seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
> feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.
>
> To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
> PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
> Alternatively,
> Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). 
> Once
> enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen 
> Shade
> remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
> can also be 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes tray application

[russ.breitenstein]

Mike
Great tip! Had the same problem. The latest download did the trick.

Thanks and take care,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes tray application

Hi Tom,

Go to the MWB website & download / install the latest release, 
mb3-setup-consumer-3.3.1.2183-1.0.262-1.0.3374.exe, & that damn screen is gone 
with this latest version!  Yay!  LOL

If you can't find it, let the list know & I'll send you a download link for it.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: T. Civitello
To: Jaws users list
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes tray application


How does one get rid of the annoying “Malware Bytes tray application” that 
keeps popping up? thanks Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about 
this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Inam Uddin]

Now its time for me to report two very disturbing bugs.
The first bugg was already fixed in JAWS 18 and it has returned in the latest 
update of JAWS 2018.
Secondly when I try to reply to any mail, I cannot read what I type.
At the moment when I’m replying this mail, I’m using Narrator.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from 
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This 
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the 
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. 
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once 
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade 
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the 
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only 
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or 
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS 
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other 
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces 
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, 
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text 
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as 
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using 
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default 
speech
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can 
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users 
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a 
location
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or 
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that 
switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a 
document
are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading 
commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or 
doing
a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full 
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus 
braille
display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle between 
Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to 
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these 
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default 
settings,
do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it 
from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default
settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between 
Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice 
between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by 
default.
6. Expand 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Sadam Ahmed]

Thanks for this Mike.

You do a great job.

Best,

Sadam Ahmed

On 13/12/2017 10:31 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition,
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default
speech
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a
location
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that
switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a
document
are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading
commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or
doing
a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus
braille
display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle between
Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default
settings,
do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it
from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default
settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between
Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice
between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by
default.
6. Expand the Speech On Demand Options group.
7. If you do not want any reading hot keys to speak with Speech On Demand
active, use the SPACEBAR to clear the Allow Reading Commands check box.
Reading
commands are spoken by default.
8. If JAWS Mouse Echo is enabled and you want to hear text as you move the
mouse with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow
Mouse
Echo checkbox. This checkbox is cleared by default.
9. If JAWS Typing Echo is set to Characters, Words, or Characters and Words
and you want to hear what you are typing with Speech On Demand active, use
the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Typing Echo check box. This checkbox is
cleared by default.
10. Choose OK to save your changes and close Settings Center.
list end

See the What's New topic in the JAWS Help for a complete list of the preset
designated reading commands available in Speech On Demand.

JAWS
list of 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[Inam Uddin]

Respected friend, after reading your response, I think that you are angry with 
me.
First of all, I’m unconditionally begging you that please forgive me of that 
what I said about you!
The matter of fact is that I saw your email and without thinking anything I 
have downloaded and installed and then I found this bugg which really disturbes 
me a lot.
For reading another email I have no choice other than to switch another screen 
reader or to install JAWS 18 as well which I have already un installed.
I only said that in place of you, if I want to share anything with a mailing 
list I must test it first then I need to share anything with others.
Being a member of mailing list, it is my moral responsibility!
At the end all I can say is that I’m not here to criticize, but I’m here to 
share useful informations with others.
I sincerely hope that you will understand me and forgive me for what I said 
about you!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Hi Inamuddin,

It would be impossible for 1 person to test these updates.  Everyone would 
have to be running the same operating systems, programs, use the same 
settings., & that still wouldn't satisfy everyone!  Alittle tought 
before making such a statement as you have done needs to take a little more 
thought.  If you would like to take up the cause, go for it!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What'sNew


Dear friend, it is not the matter of likeness or dislikeness but it is the 
matter of betterment.
If my advice hurts you, I’m really very sorry for that, but trust me 
whatever I said, it was just for the betterment of you and this list!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What'sNew

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass
on the information most list members from this list & from other lists'
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or
do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi Mary,

That is not a stupid question in the least bit!  I don't have an answer for 
you because I've never tried either installing or updating Jaws while using 
NVDA, but I have updated NVDA while running Jaws with no problems.  You know 
what, I'll give it a try on my other computer, & let you know what happens!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


This is probably a stupid question 


I have downloaded the update for Jaws 2018 that came out today. Because
of issues I was having, I've been using NVDA exclusively, but I want to
install this build and see if it helps. Can I do so with NVDA running?
Is JAWS smart enough to know I have a screen reader running and don't
want its self voicing install? Then once it is installed, I assume it
goes over the top of my existing 2018 and when I launch it, any settings
I saved will be present, and I can see how this new build goes??


Thanks.


And yes. Go Blue! Dodgers in 2018!


Mary


On 12/12/2017 4:45 PM, wayne smith wrote:
> Hey Mike! You da man!  We all appreciate you so just let it pass and keep 
> on
> giving us all the good stuff.  You are great like lots of others and that 
> is
> why we can live with your Dodgers issues.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
> What's New
>
> Hi Inamuddin,
>
> Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them! 
> If
> you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
> don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
> you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
> this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to 
> pass
> on the information most list members from this list & from other lists'
> appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, 
> or
> do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Inam Uddin
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
> What's New
>
>
> Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
> information?
> Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
> it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
> The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
> of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email 
> we
> are trying to read, it will read the first email!
> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
> Charlsdarwin1
>
>
> Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
> At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
> You can contact me via gmail:
> inamuddi...@gmail.com
> inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
> outlook:
> inam...@outlook.com
> yahoo:
> inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
> Add my Skype ID:
> charlsdarwin1
> Meet me on facebook:
> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
> Follow me on my twitter ID:
> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
> Call me on my cell numbers:
> +92-300-2227598
> +92-334-3348409
>
> From: Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
> To: Jaws-Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
> New
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:
>
> 32 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe
>
> 64 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe
>
> Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list 
> of
> improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
> 2017 update.
>
> Screen Shade for Additional Privacy
>
> For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
> seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
> feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.
>
> To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
> PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
> Alternatively,
> Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). 
> Once
> enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

Thank you very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


Mike does a fine job and is simply copying freedom scientifics information.
Thanks for what you do Mike it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New

Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list of
improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running
Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only
announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In
addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS
to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters
and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and
full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On
Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a
location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a
table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In
both these situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find
that switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through
a document are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set
of reading commands such as speaking the current character, word, line,
paragraph, or doing a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus
braille display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle
between 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

[Mike B.]

Hi Inamuddin,

It would be impossible for 1 person to test these updates.  Everyone would 
have to be running the same operating systems, programs, use the same 
settings., & that still wouldn't satisfy everyone!  Alittle tought 
before making such a statement as you have done needs to take a little more 
thought.  If you would like to take up the cause, go for it!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What'sNew


Dear friend, it is not the matter of likeness or dislikeness but it is the 
matter of betterment.
If my advice hurts you, I’m really very sorry for that, but trust me 
whatever I said, it was just for the betterment of you and this list!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What'sNew

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass
on the information most list members from this list & from other lists'
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or
do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available
when JAWS is 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi Judy & Greg,

You're very welcome.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New


Thanks Mike.  I appreciate your doing this for us.
Greg


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:41 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

An update for Jaws 18 was released today as well.  Below are the download
links + what's new in this release, which isn't much of an update:

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4534 (December 2017)
This update addresses a couple issues that were discovered shortly after the

release of the December 2017 update.

list of 2 items
. Resolved an issue where the Password field on the Windows 10 logon screen
was being announced multiple times.
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was speaking on the login screen even when
configured not to start at logon.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mary Otten]

This is probably a stupid question 


I have downloaded the update for Jaws 2018 that came out today. Because 
of issues I was having, I've been using NVDA exclusively, but I want to 
install this build and see if it helps. Can I do so with NVDA running? 
Is JAWS smart enough to know I have a screen reader running and don't 
want its self voicing install? Then once it is installed, I assume it 
goes over the top of my existing 2018 and when I launch it, any settings 
I saved will be present, and I can see how this new build goes??



Thanks.


And yes. Go Blue! Dodgers in 2018!


Mary


On 12/12/2017 4:45 PM, wayne smith wrote:

Hey Mike! You da man!  We all appreciate you so just let it pass and keep on
giving us all the good stuff.  You are great like lots of others and that is
why we can live with your Dodgers issues.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass
on the information most list members from this list & from other lists'
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or
do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list of
improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running
Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only
announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In
addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS
to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[wayne smith]

Hey Mike! You da man!  We all appreciate you so just let it pass and keep on
giving us all the good stuff.  You are great like lots of others and that is
why we can live with your Dodgers issues.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they
don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think
you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do
this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass
on the information most list members from this list & from other lists' 
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or
do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list of
improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running
Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only
announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In
addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS
to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters
and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and
full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On
Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a
location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a
table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System 

Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

[Samuel White]

Control + d then control + c

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:23 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

Could someone please refresh my memory as to what the Jaws Keystrokes are
for highlighting the address bar and copying it to the clipboard.  Thanks,
Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

[Greg Washington]

Thanks Mike.  I appreciate your doing this for us.
Greg


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:41 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

An update for Jaws 18 was released today as well.  Below are the download 
links + what's new in this release, which isn't much of an update:

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4534 (December 2017)
This update addresses a couple issues that were discovered shortly after the

release of the December 2017 update.

list of 2 items
. Resolved an issue where the Password field on the Windows 10 logon screen 
was being announced multiple times.
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was speaking on the login screen even when 
configured not to start at logon.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

[Inam Uddin]

Dear friend, it is not the matter of likeness or dislikeness but it is the 
matter of betterment.
If my advice hurts you, I’m really very sorry for that, but trust me whatever I 
said, it was just for the betterment of you and this list!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If 
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they 
don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think 
you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do 
this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass 
on the information most list members from this list & from other lists' 
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or 
do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this 
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do 
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update 
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we 
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's 
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition,
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default

Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Dennis Long]

Mike does a fine job and is simply copying freedom scientifics information.
Thanks for what you do Mike it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links +
What's New

Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017) The following is a list of
improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 release and the December
2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. 
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running
Fusion, or when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only
announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In
addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS
to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters
and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and
full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On
Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a
location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a
table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In
both these situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find
that switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through
a document are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set
of reading commands such as speaking the current character, word, line,
paragraph, or doing a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus
braille display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle
between Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default
settings, do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to install goldwave scripts

[Kimsan]

Dear friend:

That is exactly what I thought I needed to do, thanks for clarifying.


If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/
Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Inam Uddin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to install goldwave scripts

Dear friend, just unzip the file select all of them coppy and past them into
ENU ofolder of JAWS.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to install goldwave scripts

Hi,

I have decided to use goldwave with scrips. I have the scrips in a zip file
how do I install them?

Thanks

 

 

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blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/

Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi Inamuddin,

Well if you don't like me giving the list updates, then don't open them!  If 
you have a problem report it to Freedom Scientific / VFO because if they 
don't know about them they can't fix them.  And furthermore, if you think 
you can do a better job, you just let me know & you can take over!  I do 
this to save people time, & since it only takes a few extra minutes to pass 
on the information most list members from this list & from other lists' 
appreciate it, but like I said, if you don't like them, don't open them, or 
do all the testing & posting of the updates yourself!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Inam Uddin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + 
What's New


Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this 
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do 
it when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update 
of JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we 
are trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's 
New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen.
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition,
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default
speech
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a
location
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that
switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a
document
are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading
commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or
doing
a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode 

Re: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

[Judy Jones]

Thank you for sharing.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:41 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

An update for Jaws 18 was released today as well.  Below are the download 
links + what's new in this release, which isn't much of an update:

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4534 (December 2017)
This update addresses a couple issues that were discovered shortly after the

release of the December 2017 update.

list of 2 items
. Resolved an issue where the Password field on the Windows 10 logon screen 
was being announced multiple times.
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was speaking on the login screen even when 
configured not to start at logon.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Inam Uddin]

Dear friend, did you download install and use it before giving others this 
information?
Apart from enhancements you must give them the bugs as well and you can do it 
when you yourself will use it then you give information to others.
The matter of fact is that an old bugg has comeback into the latest update of 
JAWS 2018 which was fixed in JAWS 18 that is no matter whichever email we are 
trying to read, it will read the first email!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from 
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This 
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the 
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. 
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once 
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade 
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the 
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only 
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or 
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS 
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other 
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces 
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, 
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text 
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as 
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using 
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default 
speech
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can 
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users 
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a 
location
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or 
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that 
switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a 
document
are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading 
commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or 
doing
a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full 
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus 
braille
display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle between 
Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to 
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these 
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default 
settings,
do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it 
from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default
settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between 
Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to install goldwave scripts

[Inam Uddin]

Dear friend, just unzip the file select all of them coppy and past them into 
ENU ofolder of JAWS.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to install goldwave scripts

Hi,

I have decided to use goldwave with scrips. I have the scrips in a zip file
how do I install them?

Thanks

 

 

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/

Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes tray application

[Mike B.]

Hi Tom,

Go to the MWB website & download / install the latest release, 
mb3-setup-consumer-3.3.1.2183-1.0.262-1.0.3374.exe, & that damn screen is 
gone with this latest version!  Yay!  LOL

If you can't find it, let the list know & I'll send you a download link for 
it.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: T. Civitello
To: Jaws users list
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes tray application


How does one get rid of the annoying “Malware Bytes tray application” that 
keeps popping up? thanks Tom
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[JAWS-Users] how to install goldwave scripts

[Kimsan]

Hi,

I have decided to use goldwave with scrips. I have the scrips in a zip file
how do I install them?

Thanks

 

 

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/

Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

 

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[JAWS-Users] J18.4354 Update Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

An update for Jaws 18 was released today as well.  Below are the download 
links + what's new in this release, which isn't much of an update:

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4534TYNN63/J18.0.4534enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4534 (December 2017)
This update addresses a couple issues that were discovered shortly after the 
release of the December 2017 update.

list of 2 items
. Resolved an issue where the Password field on the Windows 10 logon screen 
was being announced multiple times.
. Addressed an issue where JAWS was speaking on the login screen even when 
configured not to start at logon.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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[JAWS-Users] J2018.1712.10 Update Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Here's todays J2018 update download links & what's new in this release:

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171210AXV34T/J2018.1712.10enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1712.10 (December 2017)
The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 2018 
release and the December 2017 update.

Screen Shade for Additional Privacy

For additional privacy, use the JAWS Screen Shade to prevent others from 
seeing what you are typing or reading by turning the screen black. This 
feature
is available in Windows 10 and Windows 8.

To turn on the Screen Shade, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by the 
PRINTSCREEN key, or triple tap with three fingers on a touch screen. 
Alternatively,
Screen Shade can be toggled on or off using Quick Settings (INSERT+V). Once 
enabled, the contents of your screen can no longer be seen. The Screen Shade
remains active until toggled back off, or JAWS is restarted. Screen Shade 
can also be turned off by doing a right mouse click.

Note: Screen Shade is strictly a privacy feature and will not increase the 
battery life on a laptop or tablet. Additionally, Screen Shade is only 
available
when JAWS is running by itself. It cannot be used when running Fusion, or 
when running JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic.

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS 
speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other 
actions
using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces 
actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, 
mouse
echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text 
that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as 
you
type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using 
a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default 
speech
mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can 
see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be
overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users 
still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a 
location
on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or 
spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these
situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that 
switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a 
document
are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading 
commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or 
doing
a Say All.

Layered commands to toggle the feature:

list of 2 items
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full 
Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute speech. Focus 
braille
display users can also press RIGHT SHIFT+M (DOTS 1-3-4) to toggle between 
Speech On Demand and Full Speech.
. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to 
toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute speech.
list end

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these 
keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default 
settings,
do the following:

list of 10 items
1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it 
from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default
settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between 
Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice 
between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by 
default.
6. Expand the Speech On Demand Options group.
7. If you do not want any reading hot keys to speak with Speech On Demand 
active, use the SPACEBAR to clear the Allow Reading Commands check box. 
Reading
commands are spoken by default.
8. If JAWS Mouse Echo is enabled and you want to hear text as you move the 
mouse with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow 
Mouse
Echo checkbox. This checkbox is cleared by default.
9. If JAWS Typing Echo is set to Characters, Words, or Characters and Words 
and you want to hear what you are typing with Speech On Demand active, use
the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Typing Echo check box. This checkbox is 
cleared by default.
10. Choose OK to save your changes and close Settings Center.
list end

See the What's New topic in the JAWS Help for a complete list of the preset 
designated reading commands available in Speech On Demand.

JAWS
list of 13 items
. When JAWS is configured to start at the login 

Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

[Rick Justice]

Hi Tom,
F6, then Control C.
Shift F6, to return you to the page.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 
To: "Jaws users list" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE


Could someone please refresh my memory as to what the Jaws Keystrokes are 
for highlighting the address bar and copying it to the clipboard.  Thanks, 
Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer. [Chrome]

[Roger Newell]

Yes, they are exactly the same. "Chrome" is just a shortened form of
the name "Google Chrome", just as "Explorer" is a shortened name of
Internet Explorer, "Edge" is a shortened form of Microsoft Edge and
"Firefox" is a shortened name of Mozilla Firefox.

On 12/12/17, cheez  wrote:
> I've noticed there are 2 different Chromes.  Google Chrome and Chrome.
> Are they the same?
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Moore" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.
>
>
>> Yes!
>> I can hardly use IE with JAWS anymore on my Win10 1709 laptops.
>> Chrome is so much better than JAWS. The Chrome browser is much faster,
>> more secure, and very accessible.
>> IE 11, is about done with using any screen reader. I would definitely
>> switch to Firefox, or Chrome, Chrome even better.
>> David Moore
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Steve
>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:14 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.
>>
>> Yes, very definitely, and almost totally happens with Jaws, but not other
>> screen-readers.
>> It not only happens in Windows 10, but also 8 and 7.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Judy Jones" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering
>>> if
>>> others are experiencing this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition.
>>> Even
>>> before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to load.
>>> All
>>> of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve itself,
>>> then
>>> I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs slightly from
>>> one
>>> incident to another, with the final announcement that IE is closing.
>>> Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in
>>> the
>>> first place, but not always.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws,
>>> or
>>> is this just IE not getting support?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
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>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for JAWS Key in Laptop Mode

[Michele Thredgold]

Thanks. I thought you might have to, after trying the caps lock and not getting 
a proper JAWS key response. 

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Judy Jones  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Tuesday, 12 December 2017 3:55 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for JAWS Key in Laptop Mode

>
>
> Yes, but you have to set that up in Jaws Basic Settings.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Reed
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 9:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for JAWS Key in Laptop Mode
> 
> Hi Michele,
> 
> It is usually the Caps lock key.
> 
> Reed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
> Sent: December 10, 2017 8:59 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Looking for JAWS Key in Laptop Mode
> 
> Hi listers. I've finally received my new laptop, a Leda laptop. Unlike my
> old Toshiba, which had the desktop numeric keypad on it, this one is
> smaller, and only has the numbers up the top. 
> 
> I'm not used to using this kind of laptop, so am wondering which is the JAWS
> key when JAWS is set to this mode.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Michele 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Microsoft Defaults for More JAWS-Friendly Programs

[Michele Thredgold]

Thanks for all the advice, guys. It's been a real help. I'm sure I'll be asking 
quite a few questions within the next few months, since I'll be transferring 
from a portable note-taker over to a laptop with Braille display as my primary 
device. 

Jim's tutorials on Windows 10 are going to come in very handy.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Judy Jones  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Tuesday, 12 December 2017 3:54 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Microsoft Defaults for More JAWS-Friendly 
Programs

>
>
> You can go into your control panel, set program defaults.  You will be
> presented with a list of all your programs.  If you want Internet Explorer
> as your default browser, find it in the list, then tab over to Set As
> Default, enter, go to OK, hit enter again.  Same thing if you want a
> particular music player as your default.
> 
> To set your search engine preference, that is done from within the browser's
> settings.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 9:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Microsoft Defaults for More JAWS-Friendly
> Programs
> 
> Hi all. My new laptop keeps wanting to revert to Microsoft Edge when I want
> to use the Internet, and Bing when I want to do a search. I Until now, I
> have been using Internet Explorer and Google. Would it be advisable to stay
> with these or has JAWS improved enough that I could use these default
> programs?
> 
> If not, how can I set my laptop up so that Microsoft doesn't keep overriding
> me?
> 
> I'm a total novice to Windows 10, so will be learning as I go along.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Michele
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Microsoft Defaults for More JAWS-Friendly Programs

[Michele Thredgold]

Wonderful!

By the way, does anybody know how easy Microsoft Edge is to use, compared to IE 
or Firefox?

Eeers!

- Original Message -
From: net bat66  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Monday, 11 December 2017 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Microsoft Defaults for More JAWS-Friendly 
Programs

>
>
> open the start screen and type in default browser.
> i think you click on the edge browser and it will open the list of browsers 
> you 
> have installed. from there you choose i e for your default browser.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 9:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Microsoft Defaults for More JAWS-Friendly 
> Programs
> 
> Hi all. My new laptop keeps wanting to revert to Microsoft Edge when I want 
> to 
> use the Internet, and Bing when I want to do a search. I Until now, I have 
> been 
> using Internet Explorer and Google. Would it be advisable to stay with these 
> or 
> has JAWS improved enough that I could use these default programs?
> 
> If not, how can I set my laptop up so that Microsoft doesn't keep overriding 
> me?
> 
> I'm a total novice to Windows 10, so will be learning as I go along.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Michele
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Randy Barnett]

Sorry about that, I was just saying for some of us that work with 
specialized hardware for example my hardware that tests speaker drivers 
I have to use win 7 as win 10 doesn't like it.
So my shop PC runs win 7 and my home PC runs win10. If I want win 10 in 
my shop I will have to upgrade the tester and that is money I don't need 
to spend when win 7 does everything I need it too at the shop. Win 10 is 
just a OS trying to act like a smart phone trying to be  a social 
platform...

On 12/12/2017 12:34 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

On 12/12/2017 10:52 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

Hello,
You do have a point.
Here is something to consider, as the programs change from old to 
new, it
can become much more difficult to continue reaching back to make the 
old,
work with the infrastructure of the new. IT can be much more involved 
than
one may think and I feel for developers who have to keep patching up 
the old

software. Perhaps they will
Take care,



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Here is the point Windows7 is still support thus new  features should 
work

with it.  I also noticed the installer issue has been reported on other
lists for windows7 hasn't been fixed it would appear.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is 
unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that 
their

skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over 
without a

second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all 
of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has 
already

warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a 
significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 
2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling 
behind the

train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come 
across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to 
be a

thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
for

schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
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products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on 
Windows 8 and

10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as 
Win7 is

in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and 
that

you didn't include windows7.

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Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

[amcarr1]

I am using Jaws 2018 build 1710.42.  It did improve some issues on my
personal laptop, but has done nothing to address issues at work.  I heard
that there was an update that came out today.  I'll give it a try, but I
really think it has more to do with the security policies at work.  

Thanks,
Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi,
What version of Jaws are you using. Since the last update of Jaws 2018 build
1710.42 my log on has worked a lot better.
You might want to check this out.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi All,

 

We are continuing to have problems with logging into the Windows10 Dell 7440
test machine at work.  Frequently JAWS appears to be clipped when it
initially launches prior to the login screen.  When this happens, JAWS does
not come back until after the user has logged in and they are on the
desktop.  So one thing I am asking that IT look at is the launch order.  Am
I barking up an empty tree?  Is there a way to change this order?

 

I've been attempting to use Control+Windows+Enter to turn on Narrator at the
login screen, but it will not launch.

 

In addition, sometimes BitLocker comes up and wants some type of action from
the user.  Besides figuring out what is triggering what now appears to be a
random launching of BitLocker, I am looking for any tips on how a JAWS user
can get through BitLocker when it does come up.  I'm guessing that there is
not a solution.

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Randy Barnett]

Some of us rely on programs that arent always well behaved on win 10. I 
have a tester for speaker drivers that wont run on win 10. I am not 
going to buy another tester, the hardware is not cheap (waste of 
resources) when win 7  works just fine. My home pc does run win 10 though.

On 12/12/2017 10:52 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

Hello,
You do have a point.
Here is something to consider, as the programs change from old to new, it
can become much more difficult to continue reaching back to make the old,
work with the infrastructure of the new. IT can be much more involved than
one may think and I feel for developers who have to keep patching up the old
software. Perhaps they will
Take care,



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Here is the point Windows7 is still support thus new  features should work
with it.  I also noticed the installer issue has been reported on other
lists for windows7 hasn't been fixed it would appear.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Soundtique
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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Randy Barnett]

On 12/12/2017 10:52 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

Hello,
You do have a point.
Here is something to consider, as the programs change from old to new, it
can become much more difficult to continue reaching back to make the old,
work with the infrastructure of the new. IT can be much more involved than
one may think and I feel for developers who have to keep patching up the old
software. Perhaps they will
Take care,



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Here is the point Windows7 is still support thus new  features should work
with it.  I also noticed the installer issue has been reported on other
lists for windows7 hasn't been fixed it would appear.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

[Adrian Spratt]

Alt-d, then control-c.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:23 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

Could someone please refresh my memory as to what the Jaws Keystrokes are for 
highlighting the address bar and copying it to the clipboard.  Thanks, Tom For 
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[JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

[T. Civitello]

Could someone please refresh my memory as to what the Jaws Keystrokes are for 
highlighting the address bar and copying it to the clipboard.  Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Nathaniel Kile]

Hello, you are right.
I was not a tech person for many years and I simply didn't understand the
importance of staying abreast of changes. Now that I am on the other side of
the fence I continually come across clients who would like to return to the
work force and do not have the skills to be competitive or efficient in the
work place. This is very discouraging for them and sometimes a deal breaker
for more training. 
Thankfully there are lists like this around for people to share their
knowledge on.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of t
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I don't believe you sound combative, but there are a lot of us jaws users
that really are behind the curve when it comes to pc technology, and simply
don't feel the need to advance like you tech folks, but all of us are so
glad yall are here, onlist, when something is more than we know, so thank
all of you for your help

-Original Message-
From: Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[JM Casey]

Yes, all that is certainly true. NVDA is also fazing out support for older
operating systems. It comes to a point where you may as well just use the
old versions. Why bother to continue updating your software if none of the
new features work for you? I used an XP machine for a really long time
(until early this year in fact) even though I was on Windows 7 and then 10
at work. A lot of people want to hang on to Windows 7 and that's certainly
understandable. But new features are designed to work with new products and
that's always the way it's been. I'm sure many besides myself remember when
everyone in the sighted world was switching to Windows 3.1 and screen-reader
support was minimal and patchy at best. Eventually, we all caught up, but it
took quite some time. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: December 12, 2017 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
You do have a point. 
Here is something to consider, as the programs change from old to new, it
can become much more difficult to continue reaching back to make the old,
work with the infrastructure of the new. IT can be much more involved than
one may think and I feel for developers who have to keep patching up the old
software. Perhaps they will Take care,



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Here is the point Windows7 is still support thus new  features should work
with it.  I also noticed the installer issue has been reported on other
lists for windows7 hasn't been fixed it would appear.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Moderator]

Hi Dennis,
The way you wrote your message, it sounds like you are addressing the 
developers of Jaws,
in which case you should be writing to them directly, and not necessarily 
this list.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws


I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Nathaniel Kile]

Hello,
You do have a point. 
Here is something to consider, as the programs change from old to new, it
can become much more difficult to continue reaching back to make the old,
work with the infrastructure of the new. IT can be much more involved than
one may think and I feel for developers who have to keep patching up the old
software. Perhaps they will 
Take care,



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Here is the point Windows7 is still support thus new  features should work
with it.  I also noticed the installer issue has been reported on other
lists for windows7 hasn't been fixed it would appear.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[t]

I don't believe you sound combative, but there are a lot of us jaws users 
that really are behind the curve when it comes to pc technology, and simply 
don't feel the need to advance like you tech folks, but all of us are so 
glad yall are here, onlist, when something is more than we know, so thank 
all of you for your help


-Original Message- 
From: Nathaniel Kile

Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[ratshtron]

hmmm, if you place firefox on the server I may give your version a 
try, the one I am using at this time has a very anoying problem in 
that everytime I go to sendspace to the download page of a file, i 
get the one mmoment screen and i have a pop-up of mediakey or another 
page that I have to always dismiss before I can continue with my 
download process. May give chrome a try again also in hopes of 
getting rid of this anoyance, lol!



Legend has it that on Tuesday 12/12/2017 05:41 AM, David Ferrin said:

I would like to mention that I did take edge for a spin last week. 
The results were not hateful and although there is still much work 
to be done it is to me at least showing some promise.


I have also pondered placing the version of Firefox on the server 
for folks to download but I am not sure if that could turn out to be 
a bad choice on my part or not.


-Original Message- From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

The only browser I've ever used is IE so a text tutorial would be great
..

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

Hi!
Definitely Google Chrome browser. JAWS is very snappy in Chrome, and the
Chrome browser loads pages and handles downloads very quickly. I have a
tutorial on Using Google Chrome, a Text tutorial, that is very up to date if
you guys want it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those of us who didn't stay with Win 7 and moved to Win 10, what browser
works best with Jaws 18?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I agree!  But Chrome also works well with Win 7.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.



For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the
field, IE11 still works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

Hello,



I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if



others are experiencing this.



I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition.
Even before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to
load.  All of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve



itself, then I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs
slightly from one incident to another, with the final announcement that IE



is closing.
Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in
the first place, but not always.



Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or



is this just IE not getting support?



Thanks for your help.



Judy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Dennis Long]

Here is the point Windows7 is still support thus new  features should work
with it.  I also noticed the installer issue has been reported on other
lists for windows7 hasn't been fixed it would appear.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Nathaniel Kile]

Hello,
Keep in mind, Windows 7 is only one version away from Vista and Vista is
considered a fossil at this point. In training clients, it is unfortunate to
have clients who have held on to old technology until the point that their
skills start to become antiquated and dated. Technology is like a steam
roller, if we don't stay ahead of it, it will run us right over without a
second thought.
When I hear people talking about old OS operating systems, they might as
well be talking about XP. Sorry to sound perhaps rough, but with all of the
updates to 10, 7 is pretty much like XP at this point. Microsoft has already
warned users that the security architecture for Windows 7 is extremely
vulnerable and open to many types of risks, and they dropped a significant
amount of support for it back in 2013. It will lose all support in 2020 and
if one is using Windows 7 or Internet Explorer, you are falling behind the
train.
I am not trying to start a debate, and hope that my words don't come across
as combative, just putting this out there so it doesn't come back to be a
thorn in anyone's side.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
This is because the underlying technology is only available on Windows 8 and
10, similar to complete touchscreen support. Screen Shade cannot be
backported to Windows 7 (might be, but it is both difficult and as Win7 is
in security maintenance mode at this time).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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[JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

[Dennis Long]

I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

[Cristóbal]

There was a Jaws 2018 update pushed out this morning which among other
things, addressed some log on issues with Windows 10. I haven't experienced
these issues, but maybe give it a shot. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi,
A few questions:
* Is this really a Windows 10 Version 170x machine? The new Narrator command
is available from 1703 onwards. If Control+Windows+Enter doesn't work, try
Windows+Enter.
* Sounds like BitLocker (Pro and higher) is told to prompt you for a pin or
a USB drive. In this case, screen readers may not be available at that
prompt. The only way to circumvent this is turning off BitLocker completely
9unless your organization's policy says otherwise).
I'll forward this to another list to see if folks there have any answers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi All,

 

We are continuing to have problems with logging into the Windows10 Dell 7440
test machine at work.  Frequently JAWS appears to be clipped when it
initially launches prior to the login screen.  When this happens, JAWS does
not come back until after the user has logged in and they are on the
desktop.  So one thing I am asking that IT look at is the launch order.  Am
I barking up an empty tree?  Is there a way to change this order?

 

I've been attempting to use Control+Windows+Enter to turn on Narrator at the
login screen, but it will not launch.

 

In addition, sometimes BitLocker comes up and wants some type of action from
the user.  Besides figuring out what is triggering what now appears to be a
random launching of BitLocker, I am looking for any tips on how a JAWS user
can get through BitLocker when it does come up.  I'm guessing that there is
not a solution.

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
A few questions:
* Is this really a Windows 10 Version 170x machine? The new Narrator command
is available from 1703 onwards. If Control+Windows+Enter doesn't work, try
Windows+Enter.
* Sounds like BitLocker (Pro and higher) is told to prompt you for a pin or
a USB drive. In this case, screen readers may not be available at that
prompt. The only way to circumvent this is turning off BitLocker completely
9unless your organization's policy says otherwise).
I'll forward this to another list to see if folks there have any answers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi All,

 

We are continuing to have problems with logging into the Windows10 Dell 7440
test machine at work.  Frequently JAWS appears to be clipped when it
initially launches prior to the login screen.  When this happens, JAWS does
not come back until after the user has logged in and they are on the
desktop.  So one thing I am asking that IT look at is the launch order.  Am
I barking up an empty tree?  Is there a way to change this order?

 

I've been attempting to use Control+Windows+Enter to turn on Narrator at the
login screen, but it will not launch.

 

In addition, sometimes BitLocker comes up and wants some type of action from
the user.  Besides figuring out what is triggering what now appears to be a
random launching of BitLocker, I am looking for any tips on how a JAWS user
can get through BitLocker when it does come up.  I'm guessing that there is
not a solution.

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
What version of Jaws are you using. Since the last update of Jaws 2018
build 1710.42 my log on has worked a lot better.
You might want to check this out.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

Hi All,

 

We are continuing to have problems with logging into the Windows10 Dell 7440
test machine at work.  Frequently JAWS appears to be clipped when it
initially launches prior to the login screen.  When this happens, JAWS does
not come back until after the user has logged in and they are on the
desktop.  So one thing I am asking that IT look at is the launch order.  Am
I barking up an empty tree?  Is there a way to change this order?

 

I've been attempting to use Control+Windows+Enter to turn on Narrator at the
login screen, but it will not launch.

 

In addition, sometimes BitLocker comes up and wants some type of action from
the user.  Besides figuring out what is triggering what now appears to be a
random launching of BitLocker, I am looking for any tips on how a JAWS user
can get through BitLocker when it does come up.  I'm guessing that there is
not a solution.

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[JM Casey]

Hi David

That's good to know. It's beneficial for us to try out this software from
time to time and try to figure things out; determine what works and what
doesn't. If nobody gives feedback, I imagine nothing will ever get done.

Re firefoxwhat if you just provided a link to the ESR version on
Mozzila's site and an explanation, rather than hosting the file itself?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 12, 2017 6:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I would like to mention that I did take edge for a spin last week. The
results were not hateful and although there is still much work to be done it
is to me at least showing some promise.

I have also pondered placing the version of Firefox on the server for folks
to download but I am not sure if that could turn out to be a bad choice on
my part or not.

-Original Message-
From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

The only browser I've ever used is IE so a text tutorial would be great
..

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

Hi!
Definitely Google Chrome browser. JAWS is very snappy in Chrome, and the
Chrome browser loads pages and handles downloads very quickly. I have a
tutorial on Using Google Chrome, a Text tutorial, that is very up to date if
you guys want it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those of us who didn't stay with Win 7 and moved to Win 10, what browser
works best with Jaws 18?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I agree!  But Chrome also works well with Win 7.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.


> For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in 
> the field, IE11 still works well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am 
> wondering if

> others are experiencing this.
>
>
>
> I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition.
> Even before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to 
> load.  All of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't 
> resolve

> itself, then I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs 
> slightly from one incident to another, with the final announcement 
> that IE

> is closing.
> Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site 
> in the first place, but not always.
>
>
>
> Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with 
> Jaws, or

> is this just IE not getting support?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
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>
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[JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes tray application

[T. Civitello]

How does one get rid of the annoying “Malware Bytes tray application” that 
keeps popping up? thanks Tom
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS2018 & Windows10 -Login & BitLocker

[amcarr1]

Hi All,

 

We are continuing to have problems with logging into the Windows10 Dell 7440
test machine at work.  Frequently JAWS appears to be clipped when it
initially launches prior to the login screen.  When this happens, JAWS does
not come back until after the user has logged in and they are on the
desktop.  So one thing I am asking that IT look at is the launch order.  Am
I barking up an empty tree?  Is there a way to change this order?

 

I've been attempting to use Control+Windows+Enter to turn on Narrator at the
login screen, but it will not launch.

 

In addition, sometimes BitLocker comes up and wants some type of action from
the user.  Besides figuring out what is triggering what now appears to be a
random launching of BitLocker, I am looking for any tips on how a JAWS user
can get through BitLocker when it does come up.  I'm guessing that there is
not a solution.

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[Mitch]

Thanks David.  The Tips and Tricks site noted was news to me but was easy to 
find and, indeed, has many helpful topics accessible with quick key navigation 
as well.

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

The tutorial that David wrote has been on the tips and tricks page for 
several months already for all to review. It is a 4 KB download just so you 
are all aware so no large problem for anybody to grab.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I have Windows 7 and I E 11 seems erratic at times. It closes rather
spontaneously and re-opens.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the
field, IE11 still works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

Hello,



I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if
others are experiencing this.



I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition.  Even
before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to load.  All
of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve itself, then
I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs slightly from one
incident to another, with the final announcement that IE is closing.
Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in the
first place, but not always.



Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or
is this just IE not getting support?



Thanks for your help.



Judy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[David Ferrin]

The tutorial that David wrote has been on the tips and tricks page for 
several months already for all to review. It is a 4 KB download just so you 
are all aware so no large problem for anybody to grab.


-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I have Windows 7 and I E 11 seems erratic at times. It closes rather
spontaneously and re-opens.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the
field, IE11 still works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

Hello,



I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if
others are experiencing this.



I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition.  Even
before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to load.  All
of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve itself, then
I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs slightly from one
incident to another, with the final announcement that IE is closing.
Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in the
first place, but not always.



Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or
is this just IE not getting support?



Thanks for your help.



Judy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[David Ferrin]

I would like to mention that I did take edge for a spin last week. The 
results were not hateful and although there is still much work to be done it 
is to me at least showing some promise.


I have also pondered placing the version of Firefox on the server for folks 
to download but I am not sure if that could turn out to be a bad choice on 
my part or not.


-Original Message- 
From: Laura Richardson

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

The only browser I've ever used is IE so a text tutorial would be great
..

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

Hi!
Definitely Google Chrome browser. JAWS is very snappy in Chrome, and the
Chrome browser loads pages and handles downloads very quickly. I have a
tutorial on Using Google Chrome, a Text tutorial, that is very up to date if
you guys want it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those of us who didn't stay with Win 7 and moved to Win 10, what browser
works best with Jaws 18?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I agree!  But Chrome also works well with Win 7.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.



For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the
field, IE11 still works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

Hello,



I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if



others are experiencing this.



I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition.
Even before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to
load.  All of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve



itself, then I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs
slightly from one incident to another, with the final announcement that IE



is closing.
Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in
the first place, but not always.



Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or



is this just IE not getting support?



Thanks for your help.



Judy

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David Ferrin
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