Re: [JAWS-Users] some Gmail function questions

[John M.]

I am guessing that you are using Gmail in the HTML view. Many of the Gmail 
instructions assume that you are using Standard view, which does not work as 
well for screen reader users. I have done what you are trying to do using 
standard view. It's sometimes not easy, but with determination, it can be 
done.

When you are done deleting the messages, just switch back to HTML view.

John

- Original Message - 
From: "Blackwell, Clifford" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] some Gmail function questions


I'm using a Windows 7 computer with the latest version of JAWS 16 and IE 
11.  I want to delete large groups of emails from my In Box and found 
instructions for doing so on Google.  However, I'm having difficulty 
finding the options that the article says I should find.


First, there seems to be an option to turn on keyboard short cuts in the 
Settings menu, but when I open the Settings menu, I don't find that 
option.  Where is it?  Can I not find it because I'm using IE instead of 
Chrome?


When trying to delete a batch of message, it says to type in the name of 
the messages in the upper Search field.  I can do that, It then says to 
check a select box.  I can find a select button but no check box.  Once 
that is checked, there's supposed to be a way to select all the messages. 
I can't find that option.


Once that is selected, there is supposed to be a delete button at the top 
of the page.  Again, I can't seem to find that.


It has only just occurred to me that this might go better in Chrome, but 
failing that, any suggestions on how I can better navigate Gmail with 
JAWS?


Thanks for your help.

Clifford
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[John M.]

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found that 
some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my opinion, 
version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After the upgrade, I 
had nothing but problems. After several months of struggling, I eventually 
installed version 16 and that is what I am still using today. I tried 
version 18 for a short while, but it was still not as stable and reliable as 
version 16. I am using Windows 7 also. One more thing...I still use Office 
2003, because I just like it a lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003 
was terrible.


I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because you 
can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version of 
Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware, 
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my 
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand that 
my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs through 
version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those versions. Time 
will tell.


Best,
John


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 

To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16



Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to switch 
from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.


As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had with 
it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the addition 
of the very useful command search function.


Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the engine. 
From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was running into 
another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out wasn't much 
better.


So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently  recalcitrant 
version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version 16 to see how it 
compares to version 18. If it works as well as my memory of it recalls, I 
will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and consider not maintaining my SMA 
anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction with versions 17 and 18, it seems like 
most of the enhancements are for Windows 10 and have no effect on my 
Windows 7 system which I have no plans to upgrade. If things do change for 
the better in the future, I can always reestablish a new SMA.


I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has already 
preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.


Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] IF NOT AVAST, THEN WHAT?

[John M.]

Hi John,

In my opinion, you are better off just using the security software that is 
built-in to Windows 10. It is the equivalent of Microsoft Security 
Essentials. This is the only security software, along with Malwarebytes, 
that I have used on my and my clients computers for the past seven 
years--with no problems. On my computers, I still use the old, accessible 
version of Malwarebytes. I am even beginning to question the necessity for 
Malwarebytes--and not even from the standpoint that they just can't seem to 
get accessibility right. Of course, your browsing and email habits can make 
a big difference in the security of your computer.


Best,
John



- Original Message - 
From: "john_Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] IF NOT AVAST, THEN WHAT?



Hi group,

I have found that the latest version of Avast Free is completely
inaccessible.  When I go onto the main screen, Jaws 18 reads as if there 
is

no data there.  I was reading the post indicating that removing Avast is a
real issue.  If I do get help in removing the program, what alternative
anti-virus programs are available which are genuinely accessible when 
using

Windows 10 and Jaws 18?





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

[John M.]

For anyone who has been missing a good, Jaws accessible weather site, the 
braille.wunderground.com site is working again with the 10 day forecasts.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Maria Campbell" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site



www.accuweather.com

is good if somewhat busy with lots of links.  I can manage it well.  Gives 
lots of information.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.


On 4/7/2017 10:56 AM, Rose wrote:
Sometimes you can get the forecast, it is hit or miss and the temperature 
is

generally more than an hour old.  I have used the site since somewhere in
the 1990s and am upset with its performance also with it screwy and 
Research
It not working and the fact that I'd prefer to see this on the computer 
not

a phone, all very annoying and over two weeks, nearly 3 of this nonsense.
No one to write to, tried the contact link.  Either take it down or fix 
it.





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

Good afternoon, listers, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio.  U sed to use
braille.wunderground.com but they now just give the temperature for your
area and not the forecast.  I'm looking for a good weather site as I want 
to
keep up on forecasts and also monitor severe weather.  Thanks so much! 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws

[John M.]

It is highly unlikely that you need Java installed on your computer. You are 
confusing Java with JavaScript. The later is a scripting language that is a 
part of the web browser and enables web developers to do all sorts of zany 
things and drive us screen reader users crazy. On the other hand, Java is a 
full blown programming language for developing applications. Most home users 
do not need Java installed. I removed it from my computers in 2010 and have 
never had the need to reinstall it. I never install it on any of my clients 
computers and have never received a call from anyone asking to install Java 
to resolve a problem with an application that they wanted to run. Java is a 
security nightmare and unless you absolutely need it, do not install it. If 
you already have it installed, remove it. If you find that you need it at 
some point in the future, it can be easily reinstalled.


Best,
John

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:06 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] java and jaws


Hi, everyone, I enjoyed reading the info about Java. I always thought it 
was

necessary to keep it up because of how they are doing websites these days,
but now Hans says that it isn't and I am confused. Could someone please
update me on Java, what it now does and what is necessary? When I wrote 
that
post about a certain site jumping around I was wondering if it had 
anything

to do with Java not being updated, but maybe that's not the case anymore.
Thanks in advance.  Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Question

[John M.]

Hi Tom,

You are correct. I just tried it with FF 52 and Jaws 16 and I could only 
access settings in the General section. I know that this was not the case 
with earlier versions of FF. I then shutdown Jaws and fired up NVDA--I was 
able to get to all settings, including the hardware acceleration setting. 
So, you might want to give NVDA a try, in order to get that setting changed.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" 

To: "'Jaws users list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:54 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Question



Hello, everyone.



I have just updated to Firefox 52, and am trying to get to the hardware
acceleration button to turn it off, since I understand this allows the 
Jaws

cursor to work better.



However, I can't ghet to the hardware acceleration function using the
instructions I have.  Here are those insttructions:



"You can get to the hardware acceleration function  with the options
screen, under the tools item in the menu bar. Find advanced 
settings/general

and it will be there.  Again, you want to turn hardware acceleration off."



I can get to the options screen, but can't navigate to advanced
settings/general as I had been able to do earlier.



I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 18 here.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue

[John M.]

I have not seen that issue after the Firefox update to version 52.0 on three 
computers.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" 

To: "'Jaws users list'" 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Issue



Hello everyone.



My Dell windows 7 laptop just updated to Firefox version 52.



Now, whenever I open Firefox, I get a user account control message asking 
me

if I want to allow
Firefox to make changes to my computer.  I say yes, hoping that the 
changes

will occur, and that dialog won't come up again. . But, it now comes up
every time I launch Firefox.



Obviously, this is not a life-or-death situation, but I'm wondering if
anyone knows how to get rid of this anoying Windows dialog whenever 
Firefox

52 is launched.



I'm using Jaws 18 and Windows 7 here.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed

[John M.]

Use https://braille.wunderground.com/

John

- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Hecker" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 12:45 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground has changed


Looks like Weather Underground has changed and the mobile site is either 
down or no longer available. When I go to m.wund.com, it pulls up the 
full desktop site. Additionally, when I try to do a lookup using the 
weather research-it feature, it says it can't find any results.



Shane


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Re: [JAWS-Users] using fire fox as your default browser.

[John M.]

Navigation keystrokes are all the same. Two quirks that I have always 
noticed with Firefox: 1. Once a page loads, it is sometimes necessary to tab 
once to get into the page. 2. It is often necessary to use the Jaws refresh 
screen command (Jaws key + ESCape), in order to be able to properly access 
all of the elements on the page. Also, when Jaws has trouble navigating a 
page in Firefox, NVDA will often give better access to the page. Overall, 
using Firefox instead of IE is a very good move.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "jimrawls" 

To: "jaws users" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 9:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using fire fox as your default browser.


I have never used any browser except IE. I would like to  use fire fox as 
my
default browser, but was wondering if there is anything I need to know 
about
fire fox working with jaws. Are there different key strokes needed with 
fire

fox etc. anything anyone can tell me about switching over to fire fox from
IE 11 would be greatly appreciated. I am running W10 and jaws 18. Thanks 
for

your help. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Libre Office

[John M.]

The Writer app was fairly good, the Calc app, not so much. I used it for 
awhile, but the program would crash or just stop responding, which was 
frustrating. I finally gave up on it an uninstalled it. I had high hopes for 
it, but it disappointed me.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 2:56 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Libre Office



Hi friends,

Does anyone know if this application is accessible or usable with JAWS 
please?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading PDF documents

[John M.]

I would like to know the same thing. I began having problems reading PDF 
documents with Jaws 17. Everything reads fine with Jaws 16 or NVDA.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki" 

To: "JAWS" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading PDF documents


I am wondering what the best general settings are for reading PDF documents 
in Adobe or is there a better program than Adobe for reading them. My issue 
is consistency.


I am looking for settings in the PDF document, not in JAWS, although if 
there are settings that will improve the readability of PDF documents by 
changing JAWS settings, I would love to know those as well.
I was doing my bank statement this morning and reading it with JAWS 18 and 
some of it was not reading. When I switched to JAWS 14, the missing items 
showed up. No matter which version I use, PDF documents never read in any 
correct order, at least the ones I need to read.


Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws

[John M.]

I have the X220 and it works perfectly with Jaws and NVDA.

John

- Original Message - 
From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" 

To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:23 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Lenovo Thinkpad X250/X260 with jaws



I am just about to purchase thinkpad X260 or X250, but I am concerned
of its accessibility with jaws. So anyone using X searies thinkpad,
kindly apprise me about their accessibility and I will be using it
with jaws only.

--
Mohib Anwar Rafay

Phone: +919 555 555 765

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Re: [JAWS-Users] limit internet access

[John M.]

Do you have a Wifi connection or a Ethernet cable connection? If it is the 
latter, just unplug the Ethernet cable. If it is a laptop, most have either 
a Function key combination or a physical switch to turn off the WiFi and 
Bluetooth radios. On the Thinkpads that I use (T420 and X220) there is a 
tiny slide switch on the side that turns off the radios. You can also 
disable the network adapters through the control panel/Network/Adapter 
Settings.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 

To: "JFW List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:19 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] limit internet access


Is there a way in windows 7 and 10 to turn internet access off? I am not
sure if it was windows 98 or xp that had a feature to have the internet
access available only when needed. A few weeks ago my system had some
vicious attacks. After a few attempts they did break through my firewall. I
would like to have it available only when downloading or sending email,
system updates and internet searching. I do see in my firewall settings that
I can stop all traffic. Just not sure if they could still break through with
this activated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[John M.]

David,

I appreciate this list for the fact that it is NOT a high traffic list. I 
see the traffic on many of the non-high traffic lists rise and fall, 
depending on the time of year and the current activity around the subject of 
the list. As another member mentioned, I am sure that traffic will rise 
quickly as the next version of Jaws is released.


I am sure that maintaining this list takes a fair amount of your time and we 
all can appreciate that fact and are grateful that you have provided this 
service for so long.


Keep up the great work!

John

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the 
past several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and 
earlier this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast 
and others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about 
the way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. 
The fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in 
business, I suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program

[John M.]

I downloaded it and installed it yesterday after reading about it in the TTT 
newsletter. The accessibility is not good with Jaws. The settings section 
was completely inaccessible. I have already uninstalled it. I will stick 
with the revived Windows Mail on my Windows 7 computer. Also, Thunderbird is 
much more accessible than OE Classic.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Carlson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program



Mike,

And here they actually say on their web site that it is accessible.
Accessible to who, I wonder?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 08:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program


Hi Dave,

Many people have tried this program, & it's only barely accessible, & 
that's

not only with Jaws, but with Window Eyes & NVDA as well.  I tried the full
version several years ago, & got my money back within a couple of days
because of lack of accessibility, & our esteemed list owner tried it just
recently, & reported that he wouldn't recommend it.  In short, I just 
typed

a lot to say that, it sucks!  LOL
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Carlson

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program


'cause it costs $24 to have the full version, perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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From: "Maria Campbell" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 09:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program


Why don't you try it and give us feedback?


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

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Without them, hunanity cannot survive.
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On 9/8/2016 10:52 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


According to today’s Top Tech Tidbits newsletter, there is now an
easy-to-use email program called OE Classics that can replace Outlook
Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and even Thunderbird and
works with all versions of Windows, including Windows 10.  Has anyone
tried this program, and if so, how accessible is it with JAWS?

https://www.oeclassic.com/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Driver update

[John M.]

If your computer is running normally, with no obvious problems, my best 
advice to you is to leave it alone.
Optionally, you can go into the Windows Update program and look under the 
optional updates section. Here, you will find any driver updates that the 
Windows Update service recommends for your computer. Unless you are adding 
cutting-edge hardware to your computer, most Windows 7 drivers have been 
stable for a long time.

If it's not broke, don't try to fix it.
Best,

John

- Original Message - 
From: "Kathy Pingstock" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Driver update


Is there a free program that I can use to update drivers for my windows 
seven laptop or do I have to pay for a program to upload drivers to my 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new external cd/dvd rw rom drive

[John M.]

It should work with Win 10 if it was designed to work with 7 and 8 with no 
drivers.


Does the USB cable have one or two connectors for attaching to your PC? On 
my external DVD, there are two connectors. One connector only provides 
power, while the other connector provides both power and data. With my 
drive, I only need connect the middle connector, which provides power and 
data. If I just connect the other connector, the drive powers up and I can 
open the tray, but the system will not recognize it.

John

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From: "Kevin" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new external cd/dvd rw rom drive


actually the person selling the drive said no drivers needed to install to 
use.  I checked the reviews and everyone said all they needed to do is 
plug the drive in and they are able to use it.


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From: David Ferrin

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new external cd/dvd rw rom drive

The first thing that comes to mind is to check and find out if there are 
any

drivers that need to be installed before the thing will work properly.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new external cd/dvd rw rom drive

I recently bought an external cd/dvd rw rom drive.
I attached it to my computer via USB but it did not showup in the drives 
in

computer.  I went into device manager it is not listed there either.  when
plugin to my tower the drive does get power because I can open it.
anyone know what I must do to use the drive?
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OOTunes contact page

[John M.]

The page works fine for me: Win 7 and Jaws 17.
Alternatively, you can send your stream request to:
stre...@ootunes.com

John

- Original Message - 
From: "John Fitzgerald " 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OOTunes contact page



Hi,



Has anyone been able to use the contact page on OOTunes?  Iam trying to
request a stream.  I am using Win 7 and JAWS 16.



Here is the page:



http://help.ootunes.com/contact 




Thanks!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading PDF in inaccessible Fox It reader on a PC withJAWS

[John M.]

You are correct, FoxIt is not accessible using a screen reader.

If Jaws cannot read the screen aloud, it will not display the screen 
information on a Braille display.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Dujari, Prateek" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading PDF in inaccessible Fox It reader on a PC 
withJAWS




Hello gang.
Fox It reader seems to be completely inaccessible to JAWS for reading PDF 
documents. My company forces us to open certain internal PDF's in Fox IT 
reader. JAWS does not even access the menu much less read and navigate 
anything in the PDF.  Has anyone using JAWS hooked a Braille display to 
the computer and been able to navigate and read the PDF in Fox IT with 
JAWS running on the PC?


Prateek

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Thinkpad x260 and JAWS

[John M.]

I have the X220 running Windows 7 Pro and it works great with Jaws 15. I 
purchased it used about a year ago. I stayed away from the newer models 
(X240 and X260) because the keyboards on those models are the totally flat 
style keys instead of the traditional keys on the X220. It is all up to your 
preference in keyboard style.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed Poynter" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Thinkpad x260 and JAWS



Hello,



I'm thinking of purchasing a Lenovo Thinkpad x260.

Do you have one?  Do you like it?  Any issues with JAWS?



Thanks,



Reed

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 and Windows Mail Issue

[John M.]

Hi all,
I use the Windows Mail client on my Windows 7 computer. This is not Windows 
Live Mail, but the Windows Mail client that is part of Win 7, but disabled by 
default. Ever since I upgraded to Jaws 17, when in a message (either composing 
or reading) and tab through the To, CC and BCC fields, jaws says Picture1, 
Picture2, etc, instead of announcing the names/email addresses. I can read the 
names/email addresses using the Jaws cursor, but I would love to have this 
working the way it did prior to Jaws 17. Has anyone come across this issue and 
is there a fix?

Thanks,
John
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Never10, Leo Laporte Recommends This Program / Tool For Stopping Windows 7 &8 From Updating To Windows 10

[John M.]

A quick tip:
When you run the Never10 program, it will make a chime sound. At this point, 
you can press Alt-D and the program will make another chime sound. The 
program has disabled any future Windows 10 upgrade nags from Microsoft. Then 
press Alt-F4 to exit the program and you are all done. If, in the future, 
you want to upgrade to Windows 10, just run the Never10 program again and 
press Alt-E. This will enable the ability to upgrade to Windows 10. I have 
already used this utility on a bunch of computers and it worked perfectly. 
As Mike mentioned, you can use the Jaws cursor to read what is on the 
screen, but you really don't have to, in order to get the benefit of this 
program. One note is that NVDA sees nothing on the screen when this program 
is running.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 

To: "Jaws-Users List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:10 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Never10,Leo Laporte Recommends This Program / Tool For 
Stopping Windows 7 &8 From Updating To Windows 10




Hi All,

This is a program / tool that stops Windows 7 & 8 from updating to Windows
10, & this is supposed to work better than the GWX Control Panel program. 
I

suggest reading about it from the links below.

Website URL:

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Program / Tool Download Link:

https://www.grc.com/files/never10.exe

How this program / tool works link:

https://www.grc.com/never10/details.htm

After you start the program you might have to use your Jaws cursor to read
the information & to find the Disable, Enable, & Exit buttons

Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get 
"T

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A Website inconsistency

[John M.]

You did not mention which browser and version of that browser, the two of 
you are using. My first guess is that you are using two different browsers. 
My guess is that one of you is using Firefox and the other IE.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:26 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A Website inconsistency


Can anyone suggest why two of us with similar systems are getting 
different results on the same website? Unfortunately, I can't give a link 
because the company involved is working with us to fix accessibility 
issues. The company recently sent us a link to a new page where they 
believe they have made their video player's controls accessible. The 
webpage works for my colleague, but not well for me. Here are some 
details.


We both have Win7 machines, and I believe my colleague's is 64-bit like 
mine. While he uses JAWS 16 only, I get the same results whether I use 16 
or 17.


When you click on this webpage, the video starts almost immediately. No 
problem there. But we want access to the pause button because the videos 
are quite long. In the past, neither of us was able to access this button. 
On the new page, my colleague can do so easily, while I have to play some 
non-intuitive tricks to get there. Once again, more details.


My colleague can get to this button with the quick navigation key f and by 
arrowing around. (I'm not  clear if "b" works for him.) In my case, no 
quick navigation keys land on the button, and arrowing down the page 
doesn't get JAWS to verbalize it.


However, I discovered by chance that if I have focus on a certain link 
near the bottom of the page and shift-tab once, the pause button suddenly 
appears. Once I've done that, the pause button appears when I arrow 
around. However, the quick navigation keys still don't locate it. for the 
record, once JAWS found the pause button, it worked as expected.


One more note. After I close the window and reopen it, the pause button 
vanishes. I have to go through the same procedure to get it to show up.


When a button is this hard to find, and when finding it involves such a 
random process, I don't consider it accessible. However, it is accessible 
on my colleague's system.


Any ideas why the inconsistency?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

[John M.]

I'm using the latest Jaws 17 64-bit on Windows 7 with no lag/delay problems. 
Upgrading to JFW 17 did require that I completely remove all previously 
installed FS products and then do a clean install. The one problem that I am 
having is with PDF files. For no apparent reason, JFW keeps jumping back to 
the top of the page or the top of the file. No such problem when reading the 
same file using NVDA. I did not experience this issue when using JFW 14.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17


Do you guys keep a large amount of windows open at the same time? Honestly 
on this windows 10 system which is the only one I have so far all is as 
steady as a rock. Just wondering if we could track this issue down by 
comparing notes.


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 3:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

I get the pauses on Windows 10 and Windows 7, with either JAWS 16 or 17. I 
notified fFS, but got a generic reply. After that, I figured it was my 
computers.

Neil


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jim

Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Hi George,
Thanks for confirming with me and with a lot of people on my group who are 
having this same issue.
I wanted to see if it was exclusively with w-10 and Jaws 17 or with other 
versions of Windows and Jaws 17.

So, you have answered my question, thanks.
The more of us who let F S Support know about this issue the better.
Again, this is an intermittent Jaws 17 lockup issue, hard to produce when 
you want to show someone at F S Support.







Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be 
spiritually balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens 
where God sits.

Jim
-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Jim,
I am not in Windows 10 but Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and Office 365.
I have experienced the 10 second or more silence in JAWS 17.  I at first
assumed it was due to having both MAGic and JAWS in the same machine 
which,

of course, run perfectly together.
However, I am seeing some instances on this list of the instances of JAWS
going silent.
I just switched to JAWS 16 and updated to the 16.0.4468 update.
So far I believe it is executing more quickly but time will tell if it
eliminates the pauses.  More later.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing 
for

change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net






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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Good morning Jaws Users group.
Last night I was doing research and other things.
So, I started out using the latest Jaws 16, and then switched to using the
latest Jaws 17.
Let me know if any of you have noticed the following intermittent lockup 
of

Jaws 17.
This intermittent lockup of Jaws 17 has been doing this from the beginning
of the Jaws 17 release.
For example.
I had the following programs and windows opened.
Bookshare, F S Reader 2.0, WLM, personal folders, and on occasion my
external back up drive.
Using Jaws 16, latest release no issues.
Using Jaws 17, latest release, it froze up intermittently six times or 
more

in a little over an hour.
The freeze lasted for 10 to 15 seconds, this is very frustrating.
For example:
When going into the search edit box on Bookshare, Jaws 17 intermittently
freezes for 10 seconds or so, you can do nothing until it speaks.
When pressing Control+N, for a new message in WLM, same thing.
When pressing Control+R, to reply to a message, same thing.
When pressing the escape key in F S Reader 2.0, to go from my alphabetical
list of books back to the current book, same thing.
When pressing ALT+f4 to close a program, or pressing Control+W, to close a
window, same thing.
When pressing ALT+Tab to switch From one program to another, same thing.
When in the settings area, going from one screen to another, same thing.
Again, this is an intermittent Jaws lockup, very difficult to reproduce 
with

any 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!

[John M.]

Tom,

Download the standalone version of GWX control panel and run it. It does not 
install anything on your computer. It just sets the options to prevent the 
downloading and installation of W10. This is not rocket science. It just 
works. I have run it on a dozen computers with no adverse effects. And in 
the future, if you decide you want to install W10, just run the program 
again and it will reverse the changes it has previously made, allowing you 
to download and install W10.


I agree that I never want to install unnecessary software on my computers. 
In this particular case, this program just works and it is fully accessible 
with Jaws, which is an added wonderful bonus. So, go ahead and do it and 
kick that annoying W10 nag out of your life.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!



Rick:

I may just do that.

Up until last night, I was content to see if what the Microsoft
Accessibility help line specialist did would help, but obviously it was 
not

successful.

I am just reluctant to put software on a computer for something like this 
if

it is not needed.

I guess my bigger point is that we should not constantly be badgered about
software updates, especially updates that don't go away, despite 
Microsoft's

own efforts to try to make that happen.

I have an iPhone, and am constantly getting updates on the lates IOS
updates, but the option to accept or hide them is always there and easy to
invoke by the end user.  Why can't that be the same with Microsoft?

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!

Hi Tom,
Wy don't you give the GWX Control Panel a shot, it worked just fine on 
every

system I have used it on, no more Windows 10 messages.

HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" 
To: "Jaws users list" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!


Hello, everyone.



Well, it looks like the hour that the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline
technician spent the other day trying to remove the "get windows 10" popup
removed from my computer was ultimately unsuccessful.



The thing is back!



Looks like it's time once again to call the Hotline, and have them try
again!



I find this to be absolutely ridiculous!



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting

[John M.]

Try accessing it using NVDA. Sometimes NVDA works where Jaws fails. Good 
example is capitalone360.com. I cannot access the menus on their site with 
Jaws, but they work perfectly with NVDA. It's worth a try.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "George Martinez CPA" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting


Hi David,
Not good news...
I logged in to my Citrix WebEx webinar a few minutes ago and JAWS did great
getting in.
However, once I arrived at the initial Presenter screen I was unable to get
to the Chat button and when I used INS + F7 it told me that I could only use
that while on a page on the internet, Duh.
So, after several minutes of trying every  thing I knew I could see the Chat
button but could not access it with JAWS!
I believe that once the Chat button is activated that the Chat box and maybe
even the polling may be accessed with key strokes.
I have numerous webinars in February-March and will continue experimenting
using only JAWS.
George


"If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life. That is a form of "insanity!"

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Casanave
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting

Thanks for the dialog on Citrix guys and the lead to WebEx George, if you
have any breakthroughs please let us know and I'll do the same.
I know it's time consuming but whenever possible , let the service provider
know when their products are not accessible... otherwise we are guaranteed
to remain unable to participate in what are now common tools and innovations
if they never hear our voices.

Best regards,
David

David Casanave
Career Strategist & Executive Coach
Star Source Executive Career Services



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez CPA
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting

Sounds like a plan.
My webinars are through WebEx which is a Citrix trade name and their techs
have remoted in and worked in my machine a couple of times to resolve issues
like this.
It took them a while to understand about my lack of vision and it was a
little bit of a bear to get them connected but if you have better JAWS
skills than I that should help.  They set up a webinar room and you log into
it just like a live webinar.
They use Techs with too few vowels in their names but all speak pretty good
English and are helpful.
George

"If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life. That is a form of "insanity!"

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net






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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting

You would assume correctly, their both made by Citrix.  I've just never used
GTM before and the course itself, is held physically too far, and I don't
feel like dragging my butt over there, unless I absolutely have to.  I will
contact the school to see if we can run a test with audio to make sure that
works.


From: "David Casanave" 
To: 
Date: 2016/01/26 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting

Hi Daniel,
I assume that GTM operates similarly to Go To Webinar by the same company.
I've attended numerous GTW sessions and the sound automatically appeared
when the code to join the event was entered on the first screen. The
features that I have not been able to access are the message box, in which
you can type a question or comment to the webinar moderator; and , the
polling feature, in which the moderator asks you to respond to questions
visible on the screen.
If anyone has the keys to total access to this widely used business and
learning tool, I'd love to hear them too.
Best regards,
David

David Casanave
Career Strategist & Executive Coach
Star Source Executive Career Services


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:37 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using GoToMeeting

Hello,

Does anyone know how well GoToMeeting works on a Windows 7 machine using
JAWS 16?

I got some training for work and the school uses GTM for online courses and
I've never 

Re: [JAWS-Users] going to any drive directly

[John M.]

The old dog learns yet another new trick today.
Thanks for the very good tip David. Keep them coming.
John

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] going to any drive directly


It occurs to me to share this little bit of trivia so to speak. If you 
wish
to go to any drive on your system directly simply open up the run dialog 
and

type the drive letter followed by a colon.

Another method to get to the system drive normally C: would be in the same
dialog box type a single backslash character and of course hit enter.

I typed it out in case not everybody has their punctuation turned on.

These things cross my mind every once in a while.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows Ten message

[John M.]

Hi,
Download the GWX Control Panel from the following website:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

You can download either the full installer package or the standalone program 
(that is the one that I used).


After downloading, run the program. It will require administrator 
privileges. You can tab through the main interface with your screen reader. 
You will have to use the Jaws cursor if you want to read everything on the 
screen. It is pretty self explanatory. After disabling the annoying GWX, you 
can also enable a real-time monitoring app that will notify you if MS tries 
to slip Windows 10 onto your system in the future.


This is a real nice little utility that is helping a lot of folks with this 
problem.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Becky Buckner" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:19 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows Ten message



Hello.
Would someone please tell me how I can get rid of this pesky "get windows 
ten" message.  I am using Windows 7 with Jaws 17.  Thanks for any help.


Becky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS support of Windows 7

[John M.]

Support ends 1/14/2020
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/default.aspx?alpha=windows%207


- Original Message - 
From: "Neil Towery " 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 4:20 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS support of Windows 7



Hello Gang:

I know several of you keep up with what is going on with Microsoft. I
remember they announced well in advance when they would no longer support
Windows XP.

Have any of you read anything about their future support of Windows 7? 
Just

thinking about any deals that may be out there for Windows 7.

Thanks.

Neil



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws activating wrong link why?

[John M.]

I have encountered this behavior in Jaws for years. It happens to me more in 
Firefox than IE, but it happens in both. The best way that I have found to 
circumvent the problem is to TAB to the link and then activate it, instead 
of navigating to the link with the cursor keys. When using FF, I always TAB 
to a link before activating.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan" 

To: "'jaws-users'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:31 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws activating wrong link why?


I'm not sure if it's after the windows 10 update, or after I made changes 
in

the quick setting which I don't remember what the changes were; however,
here is the skinny.



Let's say there are two links I am passing by, about and contact us.  I
click contact us and the about page opens.

The only way I can get the right link to launch is listing the links, tab 
to
move to link, then activate link.  That is to much just to read a page 
lol,

thoughts?

Windows 10, jaws 16 and IE 11.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome is totally accessible

[John M.]

What version of Jaws are you using with Google Chrome?

- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 4:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome is totally accessible



Hi all.
I have been experimenting with Google Chrome Browser, and I have found 
that it is very accessible and easy to use. More than that, I can open the 
same web site in half the time as with IE or Firefox. It never crashes, 
and it is more stable than any other browser. It is the best browser when 
it comes to streaming videos and other media by far. The video never 
pauses for example. In IE, the same video pauses a few times for a few 
seconds. Also, Google Chrome is the easiest browser to use. Yes, I am not 
kidding. Simply press enter on the browser, and the home page opens. I 
have mine set to Google of course. Now, just press alt and the screen 
reader will say chrome button. If you press down arrow, every setting and 
menu you will ever need is in that one vertical column. The history, 
delete history, book marks, are all in that one vertical menu just by 
pressing the alt key on the home page. All navigation JAWS short cut keys 
work in Google Chrome. I have not found anything yet that is not 
accessible. Also, every JAWS key command works in Chrome just like in IE. 
You can just press alt + D for the address bar for example. I will 
continue to play around with Google Chrome a little more, and I will be 
ready to do an Audio tutorial for you guys. You will not believe just how 
much better Google Chrome is over any other browser. You will hear it with 
your own ears when I send you the tutorial probably by Friday. I know some 
of you will use Chrome as your default browser. God bless and have a great 
night. Talk to all of you soon.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] tds email server protocols

[John M.]

subject: [JAWS-Users] tds email server protocols

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] tds email server protocols


If some kind hearted person would take pity on me and let me know what the 
subject line indicates it might make me a happy camper.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] downgrading back to xp

[John M.]

Running Win 7 with only two GB of Ram is going to be a frustrating 
experience. Can you add an additional two GB of ram to your computer? It 
will make a huge difference in the performance of Win 7.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "leonard morris" 

To: "jaws" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 5:58 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] downgrading back to xp


I have a HP netbook with 2 gigs of ram. I upgraded my netbook from XP to 
windows seven a while back. I'm using Jaws v15 and I noticed the netbook is 
incredibly sluggish. I am wondering if I roll it back to XP would that 
speed up the netbook computer?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Time to Upgrade to IE 11

[John M.]

Neil,
I have been using IE 11 on Windows 7 Home 64-bit with Jaws 13 and 14 for 
about three years and have had no problems. Of course, I come across web 
sites that do not always work as I would like. When I encounter them, the 
first thing that I do is to try the offending site using Firefox and NVDA. 
In some cases, I will be able to navigate around the problem. More often 
than not, it is poor website design and I encounter the same roadblock with 
FF and NVDA.


Overall, IE 11 has been more stable and performs faster than all of its 
predecessors.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Neil Towery " 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Time to Upgrade to IE 11



Hello Gang:
I got a refurbished Windows 7 machine last year to replace an xp. Two
people have tried to upgrade to something higher than IE 9. Neither was
successful.
One of those techs was at the MS Accessibility desk. They got IE 11, but 
it

was unuseable, as in could not use the bank web site plus others.
I called MS back to roll it back to IE 9. Now, I have no problems.
Not sure what I am going to do with this news!
Neil

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 10:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Time to Upgrade to IE 11


Microsoft recently announced that it will end support for older versions 
of

Internet Explorer on Jan. 12, 2016, less than three months from now, so if
you are running Windows 7 or later as most of us are, you will have to
upgrade to IE 11 in order to continue receiving security updates and
patches.  Beginning on that date, IE 10 and earlier will no longer be
supported for Windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10.  So now may be a good time to
upgrade to IE 11 if you have not already done so, or consider switching to
Firefox full time if you are having trouble with IE 11.  Click below for
more details:

http://www.laninfotech.com/still-running-an-older-version-of-internet-explor
er-time-to-let-go-and-look-at-upgrading-before-time-runs-out/


Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] SharePoint with JAWS

[John M.]

Nancy,
Do a Google search for Sharepoint accessibility. You will find a lot of good 
information on the subject.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 7:34 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SharePoint with JAWS



Hello everyone,

Is anyone out there using SharePoint with JAWS?  The company I work for 
will

incorporate it into our work process soon and I would appreciate any words
of wisdom, advice, tips  and general experiences with the program before I
get started.  I am currently using JAWS 16, Windows 7 and IE.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Re; keyboard recommendation

[John M.]

If you get the opportunity to take a ride to a Staples and try out the 
keyboards that they have on display. That way, you can choose the one that 
feels the best to you. For me, I went to Wal-Mart and purchased the cheapest 
keyboard that they offered. It is a standard 104 key USB keyboard and it 
works great with every computer and laptop that I have used it with. It is 
about three years old now and still going strong. I believe that it cost 
$12.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Mc.devitt " 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re; keyboard recommendation





Hello,

Per the response to my inquiry, I'm not sure whatyou mean by a 'flatscreen
keyboard." the built-in keyboard with the Dell laptop I am using is a
standard laptop keyboard, (smaller keys and no elevation between the 
rows.)


Microsoft offers the 5000 Series Bluetooth keyboard. However, according to 
a

friend of mine who is fairly tech savvy, it's not as ergonomic as the 4000
series (which is USB only.)

I don't know if ergonomics makes a real diference, in many respects it 
would

just be great to find a keyboard where the keys are a bit larger than a
laptop keyboard and there is some elevation diferential between the 
keyboard

rows. Bluetooth offers some convenience.

Any recommendations.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws on the Vanguard.com site

[John M.]

Hi Jim,
I am having the same experience as you on the Vanguard site. Their site used 
to be very accessible, but since their last major site upgrade, 
accessibility has gone down the tubes. I have contacted their web support 
team, who tried to convince me that the accessibility, or lack thereof, is 
my problem and not theirs. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't me. I 
don't think that I should have to contact a customer advisor every time I 
want to perform a transaction. I don't have to do that with my bank and I 
did not have to do that with Scottrade, when I was managing my daughters 
brokerage account.


AS the largest mutual fund company in the world, I think that they have an 
obligation to provide an accessible portal for their customers who rely on 
assistive technology. I will let you know if I get anywhere with them.


Best,
John

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Pursley" <jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws on the Vanguard.com site


I've never traded on the Vanguard site but I have found some of their 
'actionable" links, especially those labeled "on mouse over" not 
actionable.  I called the advisor customer service rep and got what I 
needed.


You might find if you call Vanguard that they have an accessible site for 
people who use screen readers,   We have Vanguard funds and etf's but do 
not trade on the Vanguard site.


HTH.particularly those with Vanguard accounts.

On 9/22/2015 11:12 AM, John M. wrote:

Hi all,
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has had success 
using Jaws to perform transactions on the vanguard.com site. In 
particular, buying and selling securities. I have been trying to use both 
Jaws 14 and 15 on this site with very little success.

Thanks,
John
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[JAWS-Users] Using Jaws on the Vanguard.com site

[John M.]

Hi all,
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has had success using 
Jaws to perform transactions on the vanguard.com site. In particular, buying 
and selling securities. I have been trying to use both Jaws 14 and 15 on this 
site with very little success.
Thanks,
John
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboards without Applications key

[John M.]

The shift F10 key combination performs the same function as the application 
key.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:07 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keyboards without Applications key


Hi List, For those who have a keyboard without an Applications key, but do 
have a Focus Braille display, there is a work around.

Use the Right Shift key in conjunction with dot 2 chord.

HTH.

Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the JAWS history to copy text or messages.

[John M.]

It should be noted that this feature is only available with JAWS version 15 
and newer.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the JAWS history to copy text or messages.



Hi Ed,

Thank you very much for this tip.  This can come in very handy,  is a
definite keeper!
Take care.
Mike
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To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 7:10 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the JAWS history to copy text or messages.


Hi Everyone,

I don't know if all of you have heard of the JAWS speech history. I just
heard of it the other day. With the JAWS speech history you can copy and
paste what JAWS speaks. For example it you have a message or an error
message come up you can go to the JAWS speech history and copy it and 
paste
it into an email. Here is how you do it. If you want to copy something 
which

was recently spoken like an error message or something like that, just use
the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by H for history.

This will bring up the Speech History and all Jaws has recently spoken 
is

displayed in a virtual viewer

You can use Control+End to go to the bottom of the virtual viewer as
whatever was said last will be listed at the bottom.

If you end up with a lot of stuff in the speech history you can use the
layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H to clear the 
virtual

viewer containing this speech history.



Ed



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Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS

[John M.]

John,
I completely agree with you. I have always recommended to my clients (both 
sighted and blind) that they wait at least until service pack one is 
released for any new operating system or major software package. It blows me 
away how many people want to jump right in to a new operating system (be it 
Microsoft or Apple) on the first day that it is released. And then for 
months, they bombard the lists with complaints about things not working as 
they expected. As I have said for more years than I care to mention, if it 
is doing the job that needs to be done, leave it alone.
That is why I am still using Jaws 14 on my main desktop, even though I have 
the SMA to upgrade it. I did not like some of the issues I found with Jaws 
15 and 16, and 14 is working just fine for me.
Also, there are plenty of high-end Windows 7 laptops and desktops available 
from sources such as NewEgg and eBay, that can be purchased for a fraction 
of their original price. I recently purchased two beautiful Lenovo 
Thinkpads, for about 15% of what they sold for new just three years ago.


John M.

- Original Message - 
From: John Justice john_just...@verizon.net

To: Jaws Users E-mail List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 4:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS



The opinions expressed in this document are my own and do not necessarily
reflect those of Freedom Scientific or the list management.



After reading The FS-Cast  podcast and studying other informatory 
resources,

I have reached the conclusion that Windows 10, at least in its original
form, is not a good choice for those who use screen readers.  Please note.
Windows 10 is still a work in progress.  Freedom Scientific will certainly
keep tabs on things as they develop and make the necessary changes.



THE EDGE WEB BROWSER:

Microsoft has already made massive changes in this new web browser and 
they

admit that it is not as good as was hoped.  The software was designed like
Firefox and Google Chrome but it doesn't function nearly as well as either
of those programs.  Unfortunately, it does not work well at all with 
screen
readers.  The Windows 10, scheduled for a release on July 29, is 
definitely

not a comfortable fit for Jaws.



THE NEW WINDOWS 10 CONFIGURATION:

Microsoft has heard us and is trying to bring back the older 
configurations

like Windows XP and Windows 7. According to an article published by
Microsoft, their attempt to design a Start menu which worked well with 
smart

phones and IPads, resulted in numerous complaints from PC users.  The
version of Windows 10 scheduled for release can give you a taste of what 
is

coming but that too is currently in a fluid state.  I asked a Microsoft
representative why they are sending out a product which is still imperfect
or incomplete.  His response was, Look, we're going to hit most of our
customers at home with this new software.  Some will buy it because it is
new.  Our free upgrade will add many more customers to our list.  What 
we're

trying to do is get away from 8.1.  We have had so many problems with that
version of Windows.  We almost had to do this to keep from losing too many
retail customers to the Apple software.  People like you  and other
customers who use screen readers or magnification are a tiny minority when
compared to the rest of our customer base.  That doesn't mean we won't 
work

to fix these issues but we won't be able to do it right away.

I asked him how we should proceed in the meantime.  His suggestion was to
maintain our current versions of Windows or, ideally, load Windows 10 but
change the Default browser to Internet Explorer, still available in this 
new

release.



Windows 10 is currently being tested by Freedom Scientific and this latest
Jaws update has indeed addressed some of the problems.  However, many 
issues

still exist.  To quote Jonathan Mosen, If you enjoy experimenting with
software and trying to find ways to make it work, Windows 10 is going to
work for you.   For those of us who use our computers to do work or reach
out to other people throughout the world, the last thing we need is a 
system

which might or might not work in any given situation.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] google accessibility

[John M.]

I just tried the following link and it works:

https://startpage.com/

John

- Original Message - 
From: john frei...@295.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google accessibility


Thanks for reply. When I try your suggested link, I get a webpage has 
expired message. I tried putting the original address with the same 
results.
- Original Message - 
From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com

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Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google accessibility



Others have had the same problem. Try https://startpage.com
It uses Google as the underlying search engine and the results are very 
accessible. Use the heading quick key to jump to each result.

John

- Original Message - 
From: john frei...@295.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 10:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google accessibility


Hi list. I have been using google accessibility search engine for some 
time, but for the  last week I get a error 404 message when I put in  a 
search term. The search engine on google's main page works fine, but 
this is a lot more difficult to use for me than the other. I tried both 
IE and firefox with the same results. I am using vista and jaws 13. Has 
anyone had  similar difficulties? Sorry if this topic has been covered. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] google accessibility

[John M.]

Others have had the same problem. Try https://startpage.com
It uses Google as the underlying search engine and the results are very 
accessible. Use the heading quick key to jump to each result.

John

- Original Message - 
From: john frei...@295.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 10:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google accessibility


Hi list. I have been using google accessibility search engine for some 
time, but for the  last week I get a error 404 message when I put in  a 
search term. The search engine on google's main page works fine, but this 
is a lot more difficult to use for me than the other. I tried both IE and 
firefox with the same results. I am using vista and jaws 13. Has anyone 
had  similar difficulties? Sorry if this topic has been covered. Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Accessible Google Search

[John M.]

Interesting. I have been using it exclusively for years now and have never 
gotten a 404 error retrieving the page.


- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Accessible Google Search



I got so many 404 errors with StartPage that I went back to Google!

Cher



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Google Search


You are not the only one experiencing this issue.  Google users on other
lists have also reported this error.  Apparently, Google is no longer
supporting the accessible search site, so you may want to consider
adifferent search enginelike startpage.com:

https://classic.startpage.com/


Gerald


- Original Message -
From: Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com
To: Jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 8:20 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Google Search



I keep getting a 404 error when trying to do a search using the accessible
google search site, I relied heavily on that site for searches, is it gone
now?

I'm not having as good luck with the regular google search site. After I
enter a search item and tap the search button, jaws doesn't say anything
for while. The results are not being displayed as with the accessible
google site, has anyone else experienced this?

I use windows 7 and jaws 16, on IE 10

Thanks for any suggestions..

Trish
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Re: [JAWS-Users] the get windows 10 prompt and C P U usage

[John M.]

David,
I would also recommend that you go into the Windows update settings and 
uncheck the box that says give me recommended updates the same way that I 
receive important updates. This will prevent KB3035583 from automatically 
being installed. I am not pleased that Microsoft decided to push out this 
marketing patch, with out the computer user being required to accept the 
patch. I have had numerous calls from clients over the past week, in a panic 
about the icon that has appeared in the system tray. All of them have 
avoided Windows 8/8.1 and they were in a panic that they were being updated 
to Windows 10. Everything has consequences and Microsoft did not think this 
marketing move through. This little move is already tainting what might end 
up being a really good OS.


John

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the get windows 10 prompt and C P U usage


After removing the get windows 10 prompt from his system tray the CPU 
usage

has dropped back down to normal.

Trust me this system has nothing extra to spare at all.

In case anybody is interested for your reading and relaxing pleasure he 
says

in jest:

Removing KB3035583
To remove KB3035583, first open Windows Update and click Installed 
Updates

in the bottom-left

corner.
To quickly find KB3035583, you can sort by name. Once you've located it,
right-click and choose

Uninstall.
When you select to uninstall this update, you'll be asked to confirm and
then you will need to

restart your computer.
Once your computer restarts, the GWX.exe and its associated GWXUX.exe
applications will be

removed and the system tray icon and resulting dialog will go away
permanently.
If the Icon Returns
Some readers have noted that KB3035583 returns if you don't hide it. If 
you

have Windows updates

set to download and install automatically, this means that if you 
uninstall

this update, it will

be reinstalled automatically a few days later.
To hide the KB3035583 update and prevent it from being reinstalled,
right-click on it in the

Windows Update application and select Hide update.
After, the update's selection box will be grayed out and cannot be 
checked.

From hereon, the

update will be hidden whenever you reopen Windows Update unless you decide
to restore it.
Icon Still Won't Go Away?
There's also a registry hack that you can use to prevent the icon from
showing up.
Open up regedit.exe using the Start search or by hitting WIN + R and 
pasting

it into the field.

Then browse down to the following key, creating it if it doesn't exist:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx
Once you are there, create a new 32-bit DWORD value on the right-hand side
named DisableGwx, and

give it a value of 1.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 7:58 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] the get windows 10 prompt and C P U usage


I'm wondering if these items are related or not. I mention this since I 
have

a system here from a guy next door and he says for the past week more or
less processor usage keeps hitting 100% with nothing running.

I have removed a junk yard of temp files and worthless programs off the
system but processor usage still peeks out once in a while. Honestly I 
have

never seen disk cleanup remove 16.7 GB of for the lack of a better term
trash.

I also removed 39 programs from the system he no longer needs. So any
thoughts on the matter boys and girls.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows update

[John M.]

It does not matter.
John

- Original Message - 
From: anna vimini an...@etown.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows update



Hi all,
I have just noticed that I have two windows update one in control panel 
and one in internet explorer 11 under the tools menu.
My question is which of the two should I use the one in control panel or 
the one in internet explorer 11 under the tools menu?

or does it matter ?
I have been using the windows update icon in control panel.
I am using windows 8.1 on a 64 bit machine and jaws 15 .
thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE's usability

[John M.]

You have the option to download the latest version of Jaws and use it in 
demo mode whenever you have to interact with Viper. It may not be optimal, 
but it should help you out in the meantime.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Mario Brusco mrb...@hotmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE's usability



according to Roger Cusson They are still working on the issue, and I have
spoken to their support lead person, and he assures me that they are 
working

on it, they have jaws on their programming computer to test for
accessibility and they will keep me updated and will let us know when
it is screen reader friendly. he is an adaptive technology specialist and
has helped them to make the necessary modifications.

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From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE's usability


I don't even think the vipre team cares much they are just telling you 
what
you want to hear.  I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for them to make 
any

changes.

-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE's usability

yeah, well, I'm stuck at JAWS 14, so I'm waiting for word that the
programmers who were working on making VIPRE 2015 work better with screen
readers didn't give up and quit.

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Boyd mike@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE's usability



Hi Mario,

I am still using Vipre 2015, and since the last update of JAWS 16, I now 
can

access the schedules to set Vipre up to scan at specific times, choose the
type of scan that I want, and Vipre announces to me when it starts a scan.
There is an icon in the notification area that always tells you of Vipres
condition, whether it is updated or not, which it ddoes automatically, and
it shows the last date and time that the definition update took place. I 
can
also access the quarantine, view the threats that were detected, and 
delete
them if so desired. This is as much as I have been to do with any 
Antivirus

program since using JAWS,and all that I have ever been able to do with
Vipre. All other settings, i.e. the firewall etc. are accessible too. I do
not know if Freedom Scientific is working directly with Threat Track
Security, but things got much better with this last JAWS update. Just my
observations, not meant to upset anyone.

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE's usability

sI'm still using the 2014 version because of it's interface is somewhat
screen reader friendly, more than what I experienced in the past.

I think there's a distinction to make between a program being accessible
versus being screen reader friendly, in that a program that is screen 
reader
friendly allows a blind user to utilize that program more effectively 
rather

than that program just being accessible, which does not promote useability
by the blind user. especially with a security suite, one has to respond in 
a

timely manner, and for blind users, we need to be able to do the same. the
more screen reader friendly a program is, the more frequently a blind user
will use said program.

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From: Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus(vipre 2015)


   I installed vipre antivirus 2015 and I found that even with jaws 16
vipre only work partially.  jaws can announce the buttons of operation but
not the progress of the virus scan.  I also had problems accessing the
settings to tell vipre how to behave, I couldn't enter the settings. 
vipre
2015 may work to prevent viruses but a I didn't know what was going on 
when

it was working.


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From: Mike Boyd

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus


Hi James,

I use Vipre Internet Security, and I also run MalWare Bytes along with it. 
I

cannot say that it is absolutely necessary to run both, but I have had
Malware Bytes find things that Vipre did not, and they both are good
products. As far as being compatible, they do work well together, but you
must install Vipre first, as it will remove any other antivirus/malware
software it finds on your computer during its installation. Vipre 2015 was
not very JAWS compatible but the latest update of JAWS did make it more
compatible, and I find that it works well now.

Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Security Essentials with XP and JAWS 14

[John M.]

If it is already installed, the virus definitions will continue to update 
until July, 2015.

John

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Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 11:33 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Security Essentials with XP and JAWS 14



Can Microsoft Security Essentials be updated on a laptop with Windows XP?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Blackboard.com and Jaws find

[John M.]

My guess is that the school has updated the version of Blackboard that is 
being used. You should contact the school's disability services department 
and let them know of the problems that you are having.


Also, have you tried using Firefox instead of IE?

John

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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Blackboard.com and Jaws find



Hello-



I have been using a website called Blackboard.com for a college course. 
In

the past I have gone to the site and logged in then I use JAWS find to
locate such things as announcements, assignments and grades.  Suddenly, 
when
I open Jaws Find with Control+F it either freezes my screen or kicks me 
out
of Blackboard and back to my web home page.  I am using IE 11 with Windows 
7

and JAWS 14.  This just started and I have not made any changes-any
thoughts?



Thanks in advance,



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Re: [JAWS-Users] CRM

[John M.]

Hi Bonnie:

You will not know if the CRM system is accessible until you begin using it. 
If I were in your shoes, I would talk with your supervisor and insist on 
being given the opportunity to test the new CRM software using your screen 
reader. This way, you may be able to identify potential problems prior to 
deployment and thus encourage remediation of those problems.


Regarding SharePoint, please forward the following link to the person/team 
responsible for maintaining the SharePoint environment in your organization:

http://discovertechnologies.com/

This company offers tools which make the SharePoint environment section 508 
compliant.


Many times, it is up to persons like us in the blind community (and all of 
the other disability areas) to educate those who are indirectly affecting 
our success or failure in an organization, through their choices of 
technology. We have to bring to their attention the options that exist to 
not only find technology that fills the business requirement, but also is 
accessible to all of the individuals in the organization.


Good luck,
John


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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:42 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] CRM



Hello,

The agency that I work for is in the process of putting all our files on
CRM. My question is whether this is going to be accessible or not. We also
use Sharepoint and personally, I don't think it works so well with JAWS. 
Any

comments or opinions regarding this would be appreciated.

Bonnie


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Re: [JAWS-Users] SharePoint 2010 JFW

[John M.]

The company that publishes the software to make SharePoint 508 compliant 
will be presenting their solution at the World Usability  Day / New England 
event on 11/13 in Keene, NH. If you are in the area, maybe you can attend 
and check it out.

http://www.wudnewengland.org

John

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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SharePoint 2010  JFW



Hello all,
We use share point 2010 at work and I find it less accessible then earlier 
versions. Does anyone have suggestions to make it more accessible?


Settings for share point?
Settings for JFW?

I use the latest version of JFW 15 professional.

Thanks,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Foxit Pdf reader with JAWS

[John M.]

Hi,
Voice Dream Reader can access files in DropBox. So, I just copy the PDF 
files into the DropBox folder on my PC. Then they are synced to my iOS 
device and I can then open them in Voice Dream Reader. For the last course 
that I took, I received the textbooks in PDF format. I loaded them into VDR 
and read them there. Much easier than reading them with Adobe Reader. Plus, 
they are portable, so I can read or reference them on the go. Very handy.


John

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Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Foxit Pdf reader with JAWS



Hello John,
Your reply was interesting to read.
I was wondering or can you tell me how you move a PDF document into the
Voice Dream reader app to read a PDF, just to have another option 
available

for some reason.

Thanks in advance,

Jorge

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Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Foxit Pdf reader with JAWS

FoxIt used to be accessible. But changes to the program have made it
inaccessible for at least three years now. If you have an iOS device, by 
far

the most reliable way to access a PDF document is using the Voice Dream
Reader app. I still use Adobe Reader for short PDF documents, but I now 
put

longer PDF files into Voice Dream Reader and it makes reading them so much
better.

John



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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Foxit Pdf reader with JAWS



Hello gang.
Using Win8 and JAWS15.
My employer forces us to view certain internal documents I need for my
work, in Foxit PDF reader. Reading these internal PDF's in any other Pdf
reader is not an option.
My investigation reveals that the PDF documents I can read in Adobe 
reader


using JAWS cannot be read at all using Foxit reader. Clearly, Foxit 
reader



appears to be inaccessible to screen readers out-of-the-box.
Are you aware of any scripts or tricks/adjustments, that make documents
opened in Foxit Reader accessible to JAWS?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Foxit Pdf reader with JAWS

[John M.]

FoxIt used to be accessible. But changes to the program have made it 
inaccessible for at least three years now. If you have an iOS device, by far 
the most reliable way to access a PDF document is using the Voice Dream 
Reader app. I still use Adobe Reader for short PDF documents, but I now put 
longer PDF files into Voice Dream Reader and it makes reading them so much 
better.


John



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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Foxit Pdf reader with JAWS



Hello gang.
Using Win8 and JAWS15.
My employer forces us to view certain internal documents I need for my 
work, in Foxit PDF reader. Reading these internal PDF's in any other Pdf 
reader is not an option.
My investigation reveals that the PDF documents I can read in Adobe reader 
using JAWS cannot be read at all using Foxit reader. Clearly, Foxit reader 
appears to be inaccessible to screen readers out-of-the-box.
Are you aware of any scripts or tricks/adjustments, that make documents 
opened in Foxit Reader accessible to JAWS?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tax Software

[John M.]

Checkout www.myblindspot.org for information on an Jaws accessible version 
of QuickBooks. Taxact is a fairly accessible tax preparation software. The 
new version will not be released until January 2015.


John

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From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:58 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tax Software



I'm about to have my desktop rebuilt. I'll be using it for business
purposes. What tax software is Jaws-compatible. I'll have Windows 8.1 on 
it.

Jaws will probably have updates by then as I'll be having it done in
September.

What other business software would you recommend? I'm looking into 
Quickbook

and Peachtree. For accounting.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Internet Speed Test

[John M.]

http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html

Completely accessible with Jaws or VoiceOver. When the page loads, click on 
the WiFi button and wait about 15 seconds. Then, arrow down the page to view 
the test results. I use it all the time to check Internet connections. The 
title is iPhone test, but you can use it with any computer.


John

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From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net

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Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 9:09 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Internet Speed Test




Happy Independence Day, gang.  My Internet service provider, Verizon, 
informed me yesterday that my monthly bill for DSL broadband service would 
be increasing by $5 per month starting this month.  So I called their 
customer retention help line and complained and was offered a free upgrade 
of my DSL service to DSL enhanced.  But to insure that they really 
upgraded my DSL service, I would like to test my internet speed.  Can 
anyone recommend a JAWS-accessible internet speed test site that does not 
require installing Java, and whose results are easily interpretable? 
Thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Internet Speed Test

[John M.]

Wrong!
7,800Kbps is approximately equivalent to 7.8 megabits per second (Mbps).
So, if you are paying for an Internet connection advertised as 10Mbps 
download speed, then that is not too bad. Internet speed can vary greatly, 
based on many factors.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Internet Speed Test



78 hundred KBPS, which translates to 7.8 gbps.
Stable.
Its quite good, from what I understand.
Also, can someone explain what happens when you test?
For some reason I tried your test but the Internet window became
inaccessible all the sudden. I couldn't read anything on the page.

On 7/4/14, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote:

Hi
I ran the test and I have a speed of 7800 KBPS.  Is that a good speed? 
Can

someone inform me of what the other numbers mean and how good or bad they
are?

Ed

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Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Internet Speed Test

http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html

Completely accessible with Jaws or VoiceOver. When the page loads, click 
on

the WiFi button and wait about 15 seconds. Then, arrow down the page to
view
the test results. I use it all the time to check Internet connections. 
The

title is iPhone test, but you can use it with any computer.

John

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From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 9:09 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible Internet Speed Test




Happy Independence Day, gang.  My Internet service provider, Verizon,
informed me yesterday that my monthly bill for DSL broadband service
would



be increasing by $5 per month starting this month.  So I called their
customer retention help line and complained and was offered a free
upgrade



of my DSL service to DSL enhanced.  But to insure that they really
upgraded my DSL service, I would like to test my internet speed.  Can
anyone recommend a JAWS-accessible internet speed test site that does 
not


require installing Java, and whose results are easily interpretable?
Thanks.

Gerald
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Re: [JAWS-Users] LinkedIn and JAWS

[John M.]

Sad to say that the LinkedIn site has become very screen reader unfriendly. 
In the past, the LinkedIn Mobile site was very accessible with screen 
readers, but now even that site brings virtually no additional accessibility 
to screen reader users. This is a disappointing trend, but it is one that 
access technology users must deal with on a constant basis. All I can say is 
to contact LinkedIn and let them know the problems you are having.


One other note...I noticed that the accessibility link that used to be at 
the bottom of every page has disappeared in the lat six months.


John

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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:15 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] LinkedIn and JAWS



Hello LinkedIn users-

When I used to get a list of People You May Know I could just arrow down
through the list and hit Enter on any that I wanted to Connect with.  Now,
after I click on 2 or 3 names everything goes into ultra-slow motion.  My
JAWS goes silent and I have to wait several minutes before the list 
returns.
The more I click on names the slower things go.  Does anyone have an idea 
of

what is going on and what I Can do?



I am using Windows 7 64bit with JAWS 14.



Thanks in advance,



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] an inaccessible web site.

[John M.]

Hi Jim,
Here is my experience with the referenced site:
Win 7 64-bit and Jaws 13
Using IE 10, nothing is visible to Jaws under step 2 - select your provider
and the checkboxes to subscribe to the mail lists are not visible.

Firefox 24.3.0: Radio buttons to select a provider are accessible, but the
descriptions of the providers are not visible. The checkboxes to subscribe 
to

the mail lists are accessible.

NVDA 2013.3:
Using IE 10, nothing is visible to NVDA under step 2 - select your provider, 
although there are multiple unreadable lines in this section. The checkboxes 
to subscribe to the mail lists are not visible.


Firefox 24.3.0: nothing is visible to NVDA under step 2 - select your 
provider. The checkboxes to subscribe to the mail lists are not visible.


And on my iPad 4 running iOS 6.1.3:
Using Safari: nothing is visible to Voiceover under step 2 - select your 
provider. The checkboxes to subscribe to the mail lists are not visible.


So, the problem is not limited to Jaws, but is more a function of how the 
site is coded. This site would be a good case study for the developers of 
screen readers to dissect and determine why this site does not work properly 
with a screen reader and then try to accommodate such issues on other sites.


I realize that there are an infinite number of ways to code a web page, so 
it will be impossible to accommodate all coding techniques. But it is very 
interesting to see how the different browsers and screen readers interact 
with various web pages.


John

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From: Jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com

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Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] an inaccessible web site.



Hi all,

The following is inaccessible to jaws readers.

www.ineedmydodgers.com.

It was set up to let Time Warner Cable know that some of us who have other
TV
providers to let these providers carry Sportsnetla. The reason I am
writing this
email is this. Is there something that FS can do to make sites like this
accessible
so we can at least use them? I had to get my sighted wife to register my
name etc.
On it. More and more of these kind of sites seem to be popping up, and I
would hope
something   can be done about it.

Erick, enter here and tell us something. Smile. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] working on the web site

[John M.]

David,
Remember that many programs that were released when XP was king, still work 
great under Win 7. A few examples of ones which I use include MP3 Direct Cut 
and Juice.


Also, XP systems which are not attached to the Internet will serve their 
owners for a long time to come.
Finally, virtual machines and XP mode on Win 7 Pro provide a great way to 
run those programs which will not work in native Win 7. And although I am 
sure that they exist, I have not run across a single old program which I 
have not been able to get working under Win 7.


So, don't get too frisky with the delete key!

Best,
John

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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] working on the web site


Here lately I have been removing items that are no longer or are soon to 
be
relevant. This afternoon I am fiddling with the audio page removing a lot 
of
the XP material that will soon be a non-issue. Sadly that is a large part 
of

the page, but the good thing is that will free up a lot of space making it
available for new stuff. With luck as time moves along I will be able to
populate it with more Windows 7 material and if anybody has any
contributions they feel would benefit others please let me know.



I don't have any plans to obtain a Windows 8 system at this point so if 
any

such material ends up there it will have to come from somebody else. Just
keeping you folks in the loop in case anybody starts to wonder why links 
are

disappearing.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] web site requires update

[John M.]

If you know that you are running the latest version of Flash, then ignore 
the update that you are being offered. Otherwise, get the latest update from 
a trusted site, not a random website that you are visiting.


John

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From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web site requires update


The kspewter.com site insists that I need to update flash player. I have 
the
latest 11.9 something and the website tells me that I need to update 
flash.
Is this an internet explorer problem? using the latest IE on a win 7 32 
bit

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Door to door map driving directions

[John M.]

try http://maps.bing.com

The site works better than the Google maps site ever worked. The directions 
also give you landmarks, which were not a part of the Google maps.


If you have an iPhone, the Google maps app is pretty accessible and works 
well.


John

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Door to door map driving directions



Hi eeveryone,



I just discovered that Google maps driving directions has been 
discontinued.

Does anyone have a Jaws friendly site for getting driving directions?



Thank you,



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Re: [JAWS-Users] computer time

[John M.]

Here is a simple utility that runs in the system tray and will keep the 
computer clock up to date on an interval that you can set. I initially 
downloaded this utility for my wife's old IBM ThinkPad with a dead Cmos 
battery. The clock is off by days every time she turns it on. Instead of 
disassembling the computer to replace the battery, this utility resets the 
clock each time she starts the computer. Easy!


Once you have the utility installed and confirm that it is working, you can 
disable the Windows Time service. It's not mandatory, but it will save a few 
MB of ram.


http://www.timesynctool.com/

John

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] computer time



I just noticed that my computer clock is about 4 minutes slow. Is there a
jaws friendly program that can set the computer to the atomic clock?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Has anyone had problems with going to web pages afterFirefox is loaded?

[John M.]

Try minimizing Firefox and then switching back to it. This will usually make 
the screen visible to Jaws.


John

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Has anyone had problems with going to web pages 
afterFirefox is loaded?



Hi how are you?  I'm having problems after Firefox is loaded.  I seem to 
have problems with going to web pages.  No matter where I go after Firefox 
is loaded, I have problems with going to different places.  Is there 
something that I need to do to solve this problem?  Thank you for any 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating malwarebytes pro

[John M.]

It is not necessary to use the Jaws cursor to navigate the Malwarebytes 
menus. Follow these three simple steps:

1. With Malwarebytes open, tab until you land on the Exit button.
2. Press the up arrow key once, which will place you on the menu which 
contains Scanner, Protection, Update, etc.
3. Hold down the Ctrl key and use the left and right arrows to navigate to 
the desired tab. Once on the desired tab, press the tab key to navigate 
through the options available within that particular tab.
If you lose your place, just keep tabbing until you reach the Exit button 
and arrow up once.


I have installed Malwarebytes Free and Pro many times and by default, it has 
always been configured to automatically update in the background.


John

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From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating malwarebytes pro



Hi Greg,

Below are steps on putting Malware Bytes updateing on a schedule:

This is going to be tricky.  So, I would suggest that you read through 
these

steps a couple of times to get a good idea of what you will need to do to
access the tabs to change settings.  I am writing these steps running
Malware Bytes Pro on a desktop computer

running Jaws 13  XP Pro.  The routing of the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor
is
necessary to do this.  Also, I'm assuming that Malware Bytes is running at
startup  is in the system tray.
1. Go to the system tray, press enter on Malware Bytes to open, arrow down
to start scanner  press enter.
2. Route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor with insert + the numpad minus /
Jaws cursor key.  Press the pageup key to take the cursor to the top of 
the

page  arrow down 1 time.
3. If you use your say line keystroke, insert + up arrow, you will hear 
Jaws

read the following tabs.  Scanner, Protection, Update, Quarantine, Logs
Ignore List Settings, More Tools  About.  If you use your insert + right 

left arrow keys to navigate by word you can navigate to the individual 
tabs.

You want to navigate using insert + right arrow until you hear Protection
Tab.
Now, this is a little tricky!  After you hear Protection Tab, use only the
arrow keys for this little move!  After hearing Protection Tab, left arrow 
1

time  you'll probably hear Jaws say blank, now right arrow a couple of
times until you hear Jaws say the first letter of, Protection, which is a
capital letter P.  Remember you need to have the Jaws cursor routed to the
PC cursor for all this.
4. While on the letter P, press the left mouse button 1 time, wait a 
second

or 2,  press your PC cursor key to

navigate this tab.
5. Tab through here checking  / unchecking what you want the program to 
do.

When you get to the, Scheduler

button, press the spacebar to open.
6. When the scheduler opens you tab to add  press the spacebar.  You will
have 2 jobs to create a schedule for,

scan  update.  I'll use update for this example.  With th Update radio
button checked tab 1 time to the,

Frequency combobox where you will have 4 choices hourly, daily, weekly, 
monthly.  Arrow to the the 1 you

want .  This chooses how often you want Malware Bytes to check for 
updates,

I have my program set on daily.
7. Tab 1 time to, Recover if missed by combobox,  you arrow down to how
many days but, I personally can't

explain what this is for.
8. Tab 1 moere time to the next combobox  this is where you will set your
beginning date, time  AM / PM.  In

this combobox you will need to hold down the control key  use your arrow
keys.  So, with the left control key

held down press the right arrow key 1 time  arrow up or down to choose 
the

month.  Remember, do not let up

on the control key during this process.  After choosing the month, control 
+

right arrow 1 more time to choose

the date of the month, using control + up or down keys here.  After 
choosing

the date, control + right arrow to

the year, control + up / down arrow to choose the year, control + right
arrow to the hour, control + up/ down

arrow to choose, control + right arrow to minuts, control + up / down 
arrow

to choose,  finally control + right

arrow to A M / PM, control + up /down arrow to choose.  Now, you can let 
up

up on the control key  use your say

line keystroke, insert + up arrow, to read the month, date, year, hour,
minutes,  A M or PM.  If you need to make

any changes remember to do it using the control  arrow keys in these
comboboxes.
9. Tab 1 time to, repeating every combobox, this should be set on, 1.
10. Tab through the rest of the checkboxes checking or unchecking the
options.
11. Tab to save  press the spacebar, tab to exit,  press the spacebar.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating malwarebytes pro


Mike,
Thanks.  I will give that a try.
Greg

Re: [JAWS-Users] MSSE and Malware Bites Pro

[John M.]

Yes, they coexist together very well. Neither of them will cause an issue 
with Jaws.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Blackwell, Clifford cblackw...@cityofmadison.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSSE and Malware Bites Pro


Can this two programs run at the same time?  Will they cause a conflict 
with JAWS?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Ongoing problem with Outlook 2007 using Jaws 14 or 15beta

[John M.]

Greg,
This sounds very similar to a problem I was having on a XP system. I don't 
remember specifically what the culprit was, but I believe that it was 
another program--possibly the software for my Samsung printer/scanner/fax. 
Every couple of minutes, it was doing something which caused Jaws to mess 
up.


So, if this is a new behavior, try to determine what has changed on your 
system just prior to the problem appearing. It may be something as innocent 
as updated drivers, an application software update or even a Windows patch 
Tuesday. Was it happening prior to the install of the Jaws 15 beta? Which 
leads me to a real pet peeve of mine--folks testing out software, especially 
beta software, on the machine which they rely on daily.


I'm sure that others on the list will chime in with other possible 
solutions.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Ongoing problem with Outlook 2007 using Jaws 14 or 
15beta




I am trying to identify why Outlook 2007 on my Windows 7 64 bit Toshiba
notebook computer does not work properly with either Jaws 14 or Jaws 15
beta.  I have spoken to both Fs tech support and Microsoft accessibility
support without any success.  The problem is that when I open Outlook 2007
in Jaws 14 or 15 beta Jaws will read emails properly for a while, 3 to 5
minutes or so.  However at some point Jaws stops reading emails that are 
in
html format.  Jaws presents them in a strange format with many garbled 
text
and the html commands such as t to move to tables and h to move to 
headings

do not work.  Instead the letter t or h will appear in the body of the
email.  And the cursor key (+ on the numpad) says pc cursor rather than
virtual pc cursor which it says when Jaws is working properly when reading
open html emails.  If I close Outlook and reopen it Jaws will work 
properly

again for a few minutes and then revert to not displaying html emails
correctly.

Fs tech support has been unable to duplicate this problem on their 
computers
and have received no reports from other Jaws users with my problem.  FS 
had

me completely uninstall Jaws 14 and do a clean reinstall but that did not
eliminate the problem.  they also checked all my Jaws 14 settings and they
seem to be working properly.

Microsoft support says it must be a Fs issue since my Outlook 2007
installation looks fine to them.  They checked all my settings for Outlook
2007 and nothing they did eliminated the problem.  I also ran the Office
diagnostic from the Outlook 2007 help menu and it found no problems with 
my

Outlook 2007 program.

So I am wondering what could be happening on my system to cause this to
happen.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Greg Washington




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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

[John M.]

Using Karen's Replicator, you can setup a series of jobs to copy all of 
your data files to a backup location, such as a flash drive or external HD. 
Whenever you want to backup your data, you attach the backup device to your 
computer and run the predefined jobs. That's it. By default, KR only copies 
those files which have changed since the last time it was run. This makes 
the backup process lightning fast.


By comparison, if you are manually copying files, you may forget to copy the 
contents of a particular folder. Using KR is a very clean and relatively 
simple method for maintaining a backup of data files. It is not the tool to 
use for making a backup of your entire computer. That job is best left to a 
program such as Image for Windows or other imaging software.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



John, that is very interesting. I read great reviews about Rollback RX and
one list member highly recommended it. At present though, you can only 
store

the snapshots on your C: drive- not what I had understood when I purchased
it. I already bought Image for Windows but only used it once when I saw 
how
much disk shuffling was involved. I'm looking at external hard drives- but 
I

do have a second internal drive for storage- which should be of some help.
Does Karen's Replicator have advantages over just copying files manually?

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

From what I have read, Rollback RX is not a data backup solution.
Essentially, it is an enhanced version of the system restore function 
which
is built into Windows. Data backup implies that your data is being stored 
on


media which is separate from your computers internal hard drive. You are
only kidding yourself if you believe that Rollback RX is backing up your
data.
You don't have to purchase a copy of Image for Windows. You can use a
program such as Karen's Replicator to maintain a copy of your data files 
on
an external hard drive or flash drive. I use a combination of both Image 
for


Windows to create images of my entire computer on a monthly basis and
Karen's Replicator to backup my data files on a weekly basis. If I am
working a project where I am spending a lot of time editing files, I 
backup

those files daily by copying them into a DropBox folder. The question you
have to ask yourself is how much time are you willing to spend to recreate
lost files--if they can be recreated at all.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



I watched a podcast of Image for Windows- perhaps by someone else. I'll
check out David's. I understand that Rollback RX gives you back
everything-
including settings. It even has a way to retrieve files changed after the
date of the roll back. Obviously since I didn't get to try it out with
this
hard drive failure, I am only going on hearsay- no experience yet :(

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

You should have looked at David's tutorial on Image for Windows.  You can
back things up to an external disk; you may need help when you have to
re-install the image but it means you wouldn't need a pile of DVD's.

As far as Rollback Rx, it appears to me to be a very nice system recovery
product.  But, I'm not sure it backs up all your data, it could, but I
didn't think it does.


- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



Guess I have just learned that sad fact the hard way- have never
experienced
a hard drive problem during nearly 30 years of working with computers.
The
hard drive was sent back for replacement- and the vendor wanted $600 to
$800
to retrieve data.

I have a second internal HD which was a couple of years old, but had not
gotten around to figuring out whether Rollback RX could back up to 2
different drives or not. The new computer's OS was also new to me, so 
was

still trying to get everything installed and figure out what back-up
option
to use. I had used Image for Windows but thought that the shuffling of
several disks was rather unwieldy; so was now trying out and getting 
used

to
Rollback

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

[John M.]

While backing up to a second internal HD is better than nothing, it is not 
optimal. Depending on how important your data files are to you and your 
family, using the internal drive does not protect you from fire, theft, or a 
software glitch rogue virus or user error which deletes or damages the 
backup data on the second HD. External


hard drives are dirt cheap...you can pickup a 1TB unit on sale on Amazon for 
under $60 with free shipping. I have seen 500gb units on Amazon for under 
$40. Using the external HD is much easier and more convenient than burning 
the data to DVD.


The link to Karen's Replicator on the jaws-users.com site is:
http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/FileManagement/ptreplicator3.3.5-setup.exe

John

- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



I'll look for that program- sounds like a good thing. Thanks for the
settings.txt hint, David. Guess I'd better give Image for Windows another
try- since both you and John like it so much. I have a second internal 
hard
drive which is 160 GB- and should be adequate for creating the image. No 
one
has commented on my question re external drives with their own software- 
so

guess that's an unknown as far as JFW accessibility is concerned.
Cher

Cher

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

So true, I've been using it for a number of years already myself and it's 
a

nice little deal. Personally my favorite version is 3.35 because once you
configure the jobs the way you want them simply copy out the settings.txt
file so if you ever need to re-install the program or anything like that
just paste that file back in it's program directory and your jobs are all
back just the way you want them to be.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

Using Karen's Replicator, you can setup a series of jobs to copy all of
your data files to a backup location, such as a flash drive or external 
HD.
Whenever you want to backup your data, you attach the backup device to 
your
computer and run the predefined jobs. That's it. By default, KR only 
copies

those files which have changed since the last time it was run. This makes
the backup process lightning fast.

By comparison, if you are manually copying files, you may forget to copy 
the

contents of a particular folder. Using KR is a very clean and relatively
simple method for maintaining a backup of data files. It is not the tool 
to
use for making a backup of your entire computer. That job is best left to 
a

program such as Image for Windows or other imaging software.

John

- Original Message -
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods


John, that is very interesting. I read great reviews about Rollback RX 
and

one list member highly recommended it. At present though, you can only
store
the snapshots on your C: drive- not what I had understood when I 
purchased

it. I already bought Image for Windows but only used it once when I saw
how
much disk shuffling was involved. I'm looking at external hard drives- 
but



I
do have a second internal drive for storage- which should be of some 
help.

Does Karen's Replicator have advantages over just copying files manually?

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

From what I have read, Rollback RX is not a data backup solution.
Essentially, it is an enhanced version of the system restore function
which
is built into Windows. Data backup implies that your data is being stored
on

media which is separate from your computers internal hard drive. You are
only kidding yourself if you believe that Rollback RX is backing up your
data.
You don't have to purchase a copy of Image for Windows. You can use a
program such as Karen's Replicator to maintain a copy of your data files
on
an external hard drive or flash drive. I use a combination of both Image
for

Windows to create images of my entire computer on a monthly basis and
Karen's Replicator to backup my data files on a weekly

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

[John M.]

From what I have read, Rollback RX is not a data backup solution. 
Essentially, it is an enhanced version of the system restore function which 
is built into Windows. Data backup implies that your data is being stored on 
media which is separate from your computers internal hard drive. You are 
only kidding yourself if you believe that Rollback RX is backing up your 
data.
You don't have to purchase a copy of Image for Windows. You can use a 
program such as Karen's Replicator to maintain a copy of your data files on 
an external hard drive or flash drive. I use a combination of both Image for 
Windows to create images of my entire computer on a monthly basis and 
Karen's Replicator to backup my data files on a weekly basis. If I am 
working a project where I am spending a lot of time editing files, I backup 
those files daily by copying them into a DropBox folder. The question you 
have to ask yourself is how much time are you willing to spend to recreate 
lost files--if they can be recreated at all.



John

- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



I watched a podcast of Image for Windows- perhaps by someone else. I'll
check out David's. I understand that Rollback RX gives you back 
everything-

including settings. It even has a way to retrieve files changed after the
date of the roll back. Obviously since I didn't get to try it out with 
this

hard drive failure, I am only going on hearsay- no experience yet :(

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

You should have looked at David's tutorial on Image for Windows.  You can
back things up to an external disk; you may need help when you have to
re-install the image but it means you wouldn't need a pile of DVD's.

As far as Rollback Rx, it appears to me to be a very nice system recovery
product.  But, I'm not sure it backs up all your data, it could, but I
didn't think it does.


- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



Guess I have just learned that sad fact the hard way- have never
experienced
a hard drive problem during nearly 30 years of working with computers. 
The

hard drive was sent back for replacement- and the vendor wanted $600 to
$800
to retrieve data.

I have a second internal HD which was a couple of years old, but had not
gotten around to figuring out whether Rollback RX could back up to 2
different drives or not. The new computer's OS was also new to me, so was
still trying to get everything installed and figure out what back-up
option
to use. I had used Image for Windows but thought that the shuffling of
several disks was rather unwieldy; so was now trying out and getting used
to
Rollback RX and not getting very helpful responses back from their tech
support.

Cher

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

If your data is important to you, you must maintain at least three copies
of
your data on at least two different types of storage media and in at 
least

two separate locations.

For example,
Let's assume that your data files located on your computers internal hard
drive are one copy stored in one location.
Next, you purchase an external hard drive, backup your data (or your
entire
computer) to the external drive and store the drive at a friend or family
members home. Now you have two copies stored in two separate locations.
Next, you setup a cloud storage account and store a copy of your data at
the
cloud service. You will now have three copies of your data, stored in
three
separate locations and on two separate types of storage media.

If your data is important, this scenario is the minimum starting point.
For
my data, I use the above scenario, plus I alternate my data backups
between
two external hard drives. I also copy the latest backup to two separate
flash drives and one of those flash drives is always with me.

You never trust your data to a single hard drive, no matter how new or 
old

it is. I have seen hard drives fail in one week and I have seen hard
drives
run continuously for more than 10 years.

If the data on your failed drive is very important to you, email me off
list
and I will put you in touch with a data recovery service with very
reasonable prices.

John

- Original Message -
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods

[John M.]

If your data is important to you, you must maintain at least three copies of 
your data on at least two different types of storage media and in at least 
two separate locations.


For example,
Let's assume that your data files located on your computers internal hard 
drive are one copy stored in one location.
Next, you purchase an external hard drive, backup your data (or your entire 
computer) to the external drive and store the drive at a friend or family 
members home. Now you have two copies stored in two separate locations.
Next, you setup a cloud storage account and store a copy of your data at the 
cloud service. You will now have three copies of your data, stored in three 
separate locations and on two separate types of storage media.


If your data is important, this scenario is the minimum starting point. For 
my data, I use the above scenario, plus I alternate my data backups between 
two external hard drives. I also copy the latest backup to two separate 
flash drives and one of those flash drives is always with me.


You never trust your data to a single hard drive, no matter how new or old 
it is. I have seen hard drives fail in one week and I have seen hard drives 
run continuously for more than 10 years.


If the data on your failed drive is very important to you, email me off list 
and I will put you in touch with a data recovery service with very 
reasonable prices.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS accessible system back up methods



Dear List,



Just lost all recent data due to the failure of a 4 month old hard drive.
Had Rollback RX installed (and thought my data was protected) but the
technician said he could not locate the files- and the hard drive was
turning extremely slowly.



Needing advice on whether to get an external hard drive or to check out
cloud backup options. Some hard drives seem to have backup software built
into them, but I'm skeptical about the accessibility of such programs. I'm
also looking at what Seagate calls expansion hard drives- which may not
have the backup software built into them- am still trying to figure that 
one

out. Would appreciate your experience and advice.



Cher



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC

[John M.]

Hi John,
I never had to code in AutoCoder, but my father did, back in the early 60s.

Much of my Assembler programming was at the OS level, writing custom mods 
for the IBM Virtual Machine OS. VM was by far my favorite OS and I was 
always amazed at what that OS could do--with a little bit of tweaking. Those 
were really fun days, and so much simpler than today's world of PCs and the 
Internet.


John

- Original Message - 
From: John Vernaleken jfv...@optonline.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC



John
You bring back memories when you mentioned Assembler. Those were the days
you were really a programmer and had to deal with Core Dumps and your 
handy

Assembler Green Card. Did you ever hear of AutoCoder, I am really dating
myself.

John  (Started my career as an Assembler programmer)




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC

Hi Scott,
It just so happens that for the past several weeks, I have been working 
with

Liberty Basic. It is a full featured Basic compiler and it has been fully
Jaws accessible so far. I am Using Win 7 64-bit with Jaws 13. According to
the website, it will also work with Win 8.  I am using the demo version,
which means that I cannot produce a standalone .exe program and there are
also nag screens when you exit the program. The program has extensive help
and example programs. I have done extensive programming over the years in
370/Assembler, Cobol, Fortran, RPG, PL/1 and QuickBasic. Out of all of 
those
languages, my all-time favorites are Assembler, RPG and QuickBasic 
(Fortran

has many similarities to Basic).

I am writing a little daily reminder program for myself, because I have
never been completely satisfied with the many reminder programs which I 
have
tested over the years. The program is almost complete and I have really 
been
enjoying the process of learning Liberty Basic. I told my wife that 
writing
code again is very relaxing for me. Of course, if I was forced to do it 
for

40 hours a week, that would probably be a different story.

The link to Liberty Basic is:
http://www.libertybasic.com

The company also publishes a completely free Basic compiler called Just
Basic. I know that it has limitations over the full version of the product
and I have not tested it with Jaws, though I would assume that the
accessibility should be similar.

The link to Just Basic is:
http://www.justbasic.com

If you decide to get into Liberty Basic, contact me off-list and we can
chat.

Oh yes, the cost of Liberty Basic is $60. If you send them an email and 
tell
them where you heard about the product, they will send you a link to 
receive

a $10 discount.

Good luck,
John



- Original Message -
From: Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz
To: Jaws List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC



Hello,

Is there a basic interpreter that will run under Windows 8 and will work
with JAWS?  Any flavor of basic will do.  I'm talking about the old text
based BASIC from the 1970s and 1980s like Integer BASIC, Applesoft Basic,
QBASIC, CBM BASIC.  I had a lot of fun with it back then and thought I
would
like to play around with it again.

Thanks,

Scott Duck



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC

[John M.]

Hi Scott,
It just so happens that for the past several weeks, I have been working with 
Liberty Basic. It is a full featured Basic compiler and it has been fully 
Jaws accessible so far. I am Using Win 7 64-bit with Jaws 13. According to 
the website, it will also work with Win 8.  I am using the demo version, 
which means that I cannot produce a standalone .exe program and there are 
also nag screens when you exit the program. The program has extensive help 
and example programs. I have done extensive programming over the years in 
370/Assembler, Cobol, Fortran, RPG, PL/1 and QuickBasic. Out of all of those 
languages, my all-time favorites are Assembler, RPG and QuickBasic (Fortran 
has many similarities to Basic).


I am writing a little daily reminder program for myself, because I have 
never been completely satisfied with the many reminder programs which I have 
tested over the years. The program is almost complete and I have really been 
enjoying the process of learning Liberty Basic. I told my wife that writing 
code again is very relaxing for me. Of course, if I was forced to do it for 
40 hours a week, that would probably be a different story.


The link to Liberty Basic is:
http://www.libertybasic.com

The company also publishes a completely free Basic compiler called Just 
Basic. I know that it has limitations over the full version of the product 
and I have not tested it with Jaws, though I would assume that the 
accessibility should be similar.


The link to Just Basic is:
http://www.justbasic.com

If you decide to get into Liberty Basic, contact me off-list and we can 
chat.


Oh yes, the cost of Liberty Basic is $60. If you send them an email and tell 
them where you heard about the product, they will send you a link to receive 
a $10 discount.


Good luck,
John



- Original Message - 
From: Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz

To: Jaws List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC



Hello,

Is there a basic interpreter that will run under Windows 8 and will work
with JAWS?  Any flavor of basic will do.  I'm talking about the old text
based BASIC from the 1970s and 1980s like Integer BASIC, Applesoft Basic,
QBASIC, CBM BASIC.  I had a lot of fun with it back then and thought I 
would

like to play around with it again.

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

[John M.]

Hi Mike,
The paths for my Winmail accounts are as follows:
m:\my documents\winmail\jobhunter\
M:\My Documents\WinMail\Main
m:\my documents\winmail\EssentialComputerCare\

The M: drive is a Truecrypte volume where all of my data files are stored. 
That way, if my computer is stolen, the perp will not have easy access to 
any of my personal data, including email.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail



Hi John,

I'm trying to get this program set-up but, having some problems.  Would 
you
please post the file paths to the Store folders for each identity?  I 
think

this is where I'm running into problems.  All help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thank you very, very much.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: John M.

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


It works with Win 7 64 bit. I am using it.
John

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail



looks like it is only for vista

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

So I was right about this, well I'm sure it's not something that will
happen
too often.

Maybe you need to start taking better records of your personal inventory.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
ones

that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of MWB
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

Hi David,

You're right.  After replying to Rick a glimmer of memory came back to me

I checked for  found it.

WMIDs, WindowsMail program that Allows the Use of Switching Identities.
The program is called WMIDs.  The information about this program can be
found at the links below.

http://www.slcochran.com/Verszn/default.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/Default.aspx

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


I thought there was a third party program you found a few years ago that
did
this very thing. If it wasn't you then I wonder who it was.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
ones

that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of MB69
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

Hi Rick,

After reading the Windows Mail guide by David Bailes I thought maybe
something could have possibly been improved to allow separate identities
to
be created but, I guess I thought wrong.  Do you know of any 3rd party
programs that will do this?  I guess I could write a script like the 1
below
to help me:

begin script

Mike, quit f***ing with your computer when it is working fine!  It will
keep
you off Doctor Phil's couch.
end script

LOL  LOL

Thank you very much for your reply  information.

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: Rick Justice
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


Hi Mike,
You can not create identities in Windows Mail, without a third-party
program.
I suspect you have added another e-mail account, so you will have to
create
message rules to sort the messages.
Also, you will have to remember to choose an account or set one as the
default when sending messages.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Mike W7 B. mwb5...@charter.net

To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:34 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


Hi All,

I'm running Widows7  Windows Mail as my email client.  I just added a 
2nd

identity  can't figure out how to make the identities use different
folders.  I'm getting emails from both identities in the same In-Box. 
How

do I make them have separate In-Boxes?  All help will be greatly
appreciated
 graciously accepted.  Thank you all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

[John M.]

It works with Win 7 64 bit. I am using it.
John

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail



looks like it is only for vista

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

So I was right about this, well I'm sure it's not something that will 
happen

too often.

Maybe you need to start taking better records of your personal inventory.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of MWB
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

Hi David,

You're right.  After replying to Rick a glimmer of memory came back to me 


I checked for  found it.

WMIDs, WindowsMail program that Allows the Use of Switching Identities.
The program is called WMIDs.  The information about this program can be
found at the links below.

http://www.slcochran.com/Verszn/default.aspx

http://www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/Default.aspx

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


I thought there was a third party program you found a few years ago that 
did

this very thing. If it wasn't you then I wonder who it was.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of MB69
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail

Hi Rick,

After reading the Windows Mail guide by David Bailes I thought maybe
something could have possibly been improved to allow separate identities 
to

be created but, I guess I thought wrong.  Do you know of any 3rd party
programs that will do this?  I guess I could write a script like the 1 
below

to help me:

begin script

Mike, quit f***ing with your computer when it is working fine!  It will 
keep

you off Doctor Phil's couch.
end script

LOL  LOL

Thank you very much for your reply  information.

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: Rick Justice
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


Hi Mike,
You can not create identities in Windows Mail, without a third-party
program.
I suspect you have added another e-mail account, so you will have to 
create

message rules to sort the messages.
Also, you will have to remember to choose an account or set one as the
default when sending messages.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Mike W7 B. mwb5...@charter.net

To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:34 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Separating Identities In Windows Mail


Hi All,

I'm running Widows7  Windows Mail as my email client.  I just added a 2nd
identity  can't figure out how to make the identities use different
folders.  I'm getting emails from both identities in the same In-Box.  How
do I make them have separate In-Boxes?  All help will be greatly 
appreciated

 graciously accepted.  Thank you all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessing a Linksys router WRT120N

[John M.]

David, I do not believe that the DDWRT firmware is available for your 
particular router, but if anyone has a router which can support DDWRT, I 
highly recommend it. It is fully accessible, extremely stable and high 
performance.


I installed it on my old WRT54G and it made a big improvement in wireless 
performance, particularly with our Apple TV. No more pausing while watching 
movies and Youtube videos. It also tracks our monthly bandwidth usage, 
especially nice now that Cox is keeping tabs on usage.


The firmware upgrade is not for the faint of heart, but if you take your 
time and follow all of the instructions, the upgrade went flawlessly. I have 
been running it for about 18 months and I am very happy with it.


John

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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessing a Linksys router WRT120N



Talk about an unpleasant manner to spend a Saturday night, read on for the
details.



My router works perfectly so far as my home network and accessing the
internet, but since it has been a while I figured on taking a look at its
firmware version and then go online to find out if I had the most recent
update. It turns out after a few hours and some very bad language my wife
and I learned that we have the most recent version of its firmware but we
can't access the administration control panel from any system using IE 10.
Fortunately her system is still using XP pro and we were able to figure 
out

that the router is fine, just not accessible with IE 10.



This to me is stressful news and I thought somebody out there might 
benefit
from the fact we pretty much missed out on any of our entertainment 
programs

last night once we got in to this router problem.



I pity the poor person who has gone out and bought a new router thinking
there was something wrong with the unit currently on their desk. The 
kicker

is for my needs IE 10 is no different than IE 9 but my router disagrees.



The thing that really gets me about computers so often is that you can do 
it
right and it still won't work. Guess it's too late to pick another field 
of

interest but some days I do consider that very thing.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from

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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 10

[John M.]

I installed IE 10 a few days ago on my Win 7 64-bit desktop running Jaws 13. 
I am very impressed with how much faster it is than IE 9. A BIG improvement. 
No problems so far.


John

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE 10


It came in as an update this morning on my lap top and honestly it seems 
no
different at all although it might be a bit quicker on the download side 
of

things but I'm not certain about that as of yet.

The point is I see it as nothing anybody should be afraid to install at 
this

point.
David Ferrin
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that mind don't matter.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] nvda for google

[John M.]

Karen,
Make your life a whole lot easier and switch from Google to Startpage.com. 
This search engine uses Google, but has a much cleaner interface and 
protects your privacy at the same time. Just give it a try. Once you start 
using it, you will not go back to Google.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Karen Schrade kschr...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:37 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] nvda for google



Well, everything suggested hasn't worked so far. I've turned on forms mode
at the never use google instant and left mouse, spacebar, and enter 
don't

do a thing. Unless I'm supposed to do something different like shift
spacebar  or insert enter, it won't check.

I turned on the html elements with insert+f8 and still couldn't check it.
GRRR!

I guess my next option is to collect and install  nvda. Thanks for the 
link.

Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] FYI on mal ware bytes

[John M.]

For almost four years now, I have been using the paid version of 
Malwarebytes on dozens of computers and have not had any problems reported 
regarding the use of legitimate websites. When Malwarebytes blocks a site, 
it is because it has either actively found or previously found the site to 
contain malicious code or other vulnerabilities which could potentially 
cause harm to your system. I do receive those warnings on occasion, usually 
while I am doing some sort of Internet research. I always heed the warning 
and steer clear of the site. I have trained my clients to do the same. By 
following this advice, the rate of computer problems on the computers which 
I maintain is nearly zero. So, you can disregard the Malwarebytes warnings, 
but you are putting your system at risk. BTW, the only way that you can make 
the statement that there are no problems with a website is if you have 
administrative and physical access to the web server and are able to conduct 
a complete inspection of the operating system, server software and all 
content. And even then, it would be difficult to confirm such a statement.


John

- Original Message - 
From: tim z200...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FYI on mal ware bytes


I went to a few web page and found they won't come up. Now these pages have 
no threats of any kind. Once I shut down mal ware bytes those sites came 
back. So if anyone is having problems with web pages after using the paid 
version or trial. Try shutting it down and try them again. Seems a lot of 
paid virus and spyware programs can't tell the difference. They just want 
your money.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pa. senators web pages with capcia

[John M.]

Very good. If everyone who ran into an accessibility roadblock took the time 
to contact the owner of the site, things would begin to get better. Like 
you, I always take the time to inform website owners of the barriers found 
on their sites.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net

To: JFW List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pa. senators web pages with capcia


The other day I ran into a problem with a capcia on my senator’s web page. 
I then called for the information that I needed and mentioned the contact 
form. They just called me to test the page. They found a work around to 
prevent bots from accessing.Since I was able to use it with no problem the 
code will be shared with all of the Pa. senators sites..

---
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with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for 
the blind.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website

[John M.]

If you have NVDA installed, give the page a try using that screen reader. 
Even using Jaws 13, there are sites where NVDA will read elements that Jaws 
fails to find. My guess is that the buttons that Jaws is having problems 
were created using JavaScript. The Hadley folks should know better than 
that, because screen readers and JavaScript do not play well together.

Let us know how you make out.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website



To All Listers:

My counselor had suggested I take a online course from The Hadley School 
for the Blind.  I was able to access all of the information pretty well, 
until it came to doing the actual lesson.  Towards the bottom of the 
lesson, there are two buttons.  One says Save Changes and the other says 
Submit.  My wife, who is sighted, informs me that these buttons are 
there, as does the technical help person at the Hadley School.  However, 
JAWS does not read or recognize these buttons.  I am using JAWS version 
11, Windows Vista on a 32 bit system, and IE 9.  The tech help desk is 
researching the problem, but I was wondering if anyone on the list might 
have some suggestions.


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website

[John M.]

No problem Jerry.
NVDA is a free screen reader for Windows. Many of the keystrokes which you 
already use in Jaws work the same in NVDA. It is not as robust as Jaws, but 
every screen reader user should have at least two screen readers available 
to them, for those time when you encounter a problem such as you are having 
on the Hadley site.
You can download and install NVDA from: 
http://www.nvda-project.org/wiki/Download
On the download page, you will find a link labeled NVDA 2012.2.1 Main 
Package.
The NVDA key is the same as the Jaws key (Insert on the numpad). To 
terminate NVDA use Insert Q. To open the NVDA configuration menu, use Insert 
N.
I switch between NVDA and Jaws all the time. I also install NVDA on all of 
my sighted clients computers, so I can easily work on them. The NVDA program 
is supported by donations, so if you end up liking it, send them a few 
dollars.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website



John:

Forgive my ignorance, but what is NVDA?  I have never heard of it.
- Original Message - 
From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website


If you have NVDA installed, give the page a try using that screen reader. 
Even using Jaws 13, there are sites where NVDA will read elements that 
Jaws fails to find. My guess is that the buttons that Jaws is having 
problems were created using JavaScript. The Hadley folks should know 
better than that, because screen readers and JavaScript do not play well 
together.

Let us know how you make out.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website



To All Listers:

My counselor had suggested I take a online course from The Hadley School 
for the Blind.  I was able to access all of the information pretty well, 
until it came to doing the actual lesson.  Towards the bottom of the 
lesson, there are two buttons.  One says Save Changes and the other 
says Submit.  My wife, who is sighted, informs me that these buttons 
are there, as does the technical help person at the Hadley School. 
However, JAWS does not read or recognize these buttons.  I am using JAWS 
version 11, Windows Vista on a 32 bit system, and IE 9.  The tech help 
desk is researching the problem, but I was wondering if anyone on the 
list might have some suggestions.


Many thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website

[John M.]

Jerry,
You can also install the demo version of Jaws 13 and try the site using it. 
You may be running into an issue that is corrected in a later version of 
Jaws. If I remember correctly, IE 9 came out after Jaws 11 was superseded by 
Jaws 12. Also, you can try the site using Firefox, but don't expect any 
miracles there. Jaws and Firefox have a real love/hate relationship.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website


No, I haven't tried that as of yet.  I am waiting to find out what rabbits
Hadley will pull out of their hat.  They did tell me, however, that it was
between JAWS, IE, or Vista.  THAT certainly narrows it down, doesn't it? lol
- Original Message - 
From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website


sure that's ok, none of us has ever done that before, smiles

you can still vertulize the window though.
Did you try it out?

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website


Trish:

Maybe I am a little confused and pressed the wrong key...I am using JAWS
version 11, not 13.
- Original Message - 
From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website


oops so sorry Jerry, leave out the control key on the last part..

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From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website


Angela:

Is it as user friendly as JAWS is, as that is the only screen reader I am
familiar with.  Many thanks.
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From: Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website



It is a screen reader but open source.
Angela from italy.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Martin
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 4:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website

John:

Forgive my ignorance, but what is NVDA?  I have never heard of it.
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From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website



If you have NVDA installed, give the page a try using that screen reader.
Even using Jaws 13, there are sites where NVDA will read elements that
Jaws fails to find. My guess is that the buttons that Jaws is having
problems were created using JavaScript. The Hadley folks should know
better than that, because screen readers and JavaScript do not play well
together.
Let us know how you make out.

John

- Original Message -
From: Jerry Martin jandymar...@clear.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Buttons on a Website



To All Listers:

My counselor had suggested I take a online course from The Hadley School
for the Blind.  I was able to access all of the information pretty well,
until it came to doing the actual lesson.  Towards the bottom of the
lesson, there are two buttons.  One says Save Changes and the other
says Submit.  My wife, who is sighted, informs me that these buttons
are there, as does the technical help person at the Hadley School.
However, JAWS does not read or recognize these buttons.  I am using JAWS
version 11, Windows Vista on a 32 bit system, and IE 9.  The tech help
desk is researching the problem, but I was wondering if anyone on the
list might have some suggestions.

Many thanks.
Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws not speaking UAC dialogues

[John M.]

Jaws 13 has stopped speaking the UAC dialogue boxes when they appear. Running 
Win 7 64-bit and Jaws 13, prior to the latest update. NVDA has no problem 
reading them. Jaws is silent until the prompt is responded too. If I tab three 
times and press enter, Jaws will resume speaking. Any ideas? No changes, 
patches on the system prior to this behavior starting.
Thanks,
John
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

[John M.]

Good call gents. That is exactly what was causing the sounds in Word. That 
option never crossed my mind.

Thanks much,
John

- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13



Hi John,

Try the following;
1. Open a Word document, press Alt + T for tools,  press the letter O for
options
2. Find your General Page.
3. Tab down to, Provide feedback with sound, uncheck this box if it's
checked,  press enter to save your changes / close.

Hope this helps.  Take care.
Mike
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13


 It should be [pointed out that Word has its own sounds as well, for when
 you get to the top or bottom of a file there, particularly if you
 installed a version of office Sounds or have turned sound notifications
 on.

 - Original Message - 
 From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13


 I did that and it says silent.  When I get a chance, I will report the
 bug to FS.
  John
 
  - Original Message - 
 From: Mike O'Brien mike23...@verizon.net

  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13
 
 
  If you changed the top and bottom alert in the Default JAWS
  configuration,
  check to see that it is also turned off in the Word 2003
  configuration.
  While Word 2003 is the active application, press JAWSkey+v to open
  Quick
  Settings and check its value.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John M.
  Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 03:36
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13
 
  I knew that there was an option to control this. Setting to silent
  stopped
  the ding sound when reaching the top/bottom of file list.
  Unfortunately, it
  did not stop the ding sounds in Word 2003. Must be a bug. I know, why
  am I
  running Word 2003 on Win 7? Because that is what I own and it works
  just
  fine, other than the ding sound.
 
  Thanks,
  John
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13
 
 
  Hello;
  Use insert+v=jaws quick settings,
  Now type top in the search,
  You will find,
  Top and bottom edge,
  Alert with sound,
  Press the spacebar,
  You will hear silent,
  Now press enter.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang
  Manh
  Cuong
  Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:18 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13
 
  Hi John
  Here may be a method for you
  1. Type change system sound without the quote at the search box.
  2. Navigate to the tree view wich contain all windows sound event.
  3. Press letter d until you hear Jaws read: default beep.
  4. Tab to the sound combo box, and up arrow to choose (none) 5. Hit
  enter
  or
  tab to the ok button and spacebar to activate this.
  Hope that help
  Cuong
   - Original Message -
   From: John M.
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:10 PM
   Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13
 
 
   Hi,
   I am using Jaws 13 on Windows 7 64-bit. There is one annoyance
  which I
   recall used to happen with Jaws 7. When navigating a file list and
  I
  reach
   the top or bottom item, a ding sound is played by Jaws. The same
  sound
   occurs when editing a Word document and you reach the beginning or
  end of
   the document.
   This may seem petty, but that sound really annoys me. I have search
  through
   the Jaws settings and cannot find how to turn this off. This
  behavior
  does
   not occur in Jaws 11 running on XP, nor did it occur with Jaws 6, 9
  or
  10.
   Any help will be appreciated.
   John
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

[John M.]

I did that and it says silent.  When I get a chance, I will report the bug 
to FS.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Mike O'Brien mike23...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13



If you changed the top and bottom alert in the Default JAWS configuration,
check to see that it is also turned off in the Word 2003 configuration.
While Word 2003 is the active application, press JAWSkey+v to open Quick
Settings and check its value.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 03:36
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

I knew that there was an option to control this. Setting to silent stopped
the ding sound when reaching the top/bottom of file list. Unfortunately, 
it

did not stop the ding sounds in Word 2003. Must be a bug. I know, why am I
running Word 2003 on Win 7? Because that is what I own and it works just
fine, other than the ding sound.

Thanks,
John

- Original Message -
From: David davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13



Hello;
Use insert+v=jaws quick settings,
Now type top in the search,
You will find,
Top and bottom edge,
Alert with sound,
Press the spacebar,
You will hear silent,
Now press enter.

Hope this helps.




-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh
Cuong
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

Hi John
Here may be a method for you
1. Type change system sound without the quote at the search box.
2. Navigate to the tree view wich contain all windows sound event.
3. Press letter d until you hear Jaws read: default beep.
4. Tab to the sound combo box, and up arrow to choose (none) 5. Hit enter
or
tab to the ok button and spacebar to activate this.
Hope that help
Cuong
 - Original Message -
 From: John M.
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:10 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13


 Hi,
 I am using Jaws 13 on Windows 7 64-bit. There is one annoyance which I
 recall used to happen with Jaws 7. When navigating a file list and I
reach
 the top or bottom item, a ding sound is played by Jaws. The same sound
 occurs when editing a Word document and you reach the beginning or end 
of

 the document.
 This may seem petty, but that sound really annoys me. I have search
through
 the Jaws settings and cannot find how to turn this off. This behavior
does
 not occur in Jaws 11 running on XP, nor did it occur with Jaws 6, 9 or
10.
 Any help will be appreciated.
 John


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[JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

[John M.]

Hi,
I am using Jaws 13 on Windows 7 64-bit. There is one annoyance which I 
recall used to happen with Jaws 7. When navigating a file list and I reach 
the top or bottom item, a ding sound is played by Jaws. The same sound 
occurs when editing a Word document and you reach the beginning or end of 
the document.
This may seem petty, but that sound really annoys me. I have search through 
the Jaws settings and cannot find how to turn this off. This behavior does 
not occur in Jaws 11 running on XP, nor did it occur with Jaws 6, 9 or 10.

Any help will be appreciated.
John


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

[John M.]

I knew that there was an option to control this. Setting to silent stopped 
the ding sound when reaching the top/bottom of file list. Unfortunately, it 
did not stop the ding sounds in Word 2003. Must be a bug. I know, why am I 
running Word 2003 on Win 7? Because that is what I own and it works just 
fine, other than the ding sound.


Thanks,
John

- Original Message - 
From: David davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13



Hello;
Use insert+v=jaws quick settings,
Now type top in the search,
You will find,
Top and bottom edge,
Alert with sound,
Press the spacebar,
You will hear silent,
Now press enter.

Hope this helps.




-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh 
Cuong

Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13

Hi John
Here may be a method for you
1. Type change system sound without the quote at the search box.
2. Navigate to the tree view wich contain all windows sound event.
3. Press letter d until you hear Jaws read: default beep.
4. Tab to the sound combo box, and up arrow to choose (none) 5. Hit enter 
or

tab to the ok button and spacebar to activate this.
Hope that help
Cuong
 - Original Message -
 From: John M.
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:10 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off ding sound in Jaws 13


 Hi,
 I am using Jaws 13 on Windows 7 64-bit. There is one annoyance which I
 recall used to happen with Jaws 7. When navigating a file list and I 
reach

 the top or bottom item, a ding sound is played by Jaws. The same sound
 occurs when editing a Word document and you reach the beginning or end of
 the document.
 This may seem petty, but that sound really annoys me. I have search
through
 the Jaws settings and cannot find how to turn this off. This behavior 
does
 not occur in Jaws 11 running on XP, nor did it occur with Jaws 6, 9 or 
10.

 Any help will be appreciated.
 John


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The Psychology and education
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google maps

[John M.]

Hi Russ,
You are correct, it appears that Google has discontinued the mobile version 
of the maps, replacing it with an app that can be downloaded to a phone. 
Not much help if you are using a PC.  As the other person suggested, you 
will have to go to the maps.Google.com and click on get directions. It is 
not as clean and simple as the mobile version once was, but it is usable.


It appears that more and more of the simple services which blind users have 
relied on are going by the wayside.  That's progress.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google maps



Hi everyone,



I have recently used Google Maps to plan our trips by car. When I went to
google maps just now, it seems that it has changed. I am no longer finding
the simple from and to fields to fill in.



Any ideas for this would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you,



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 10 freezes when on Youtube!

[John M.]

Hi Rick,
Thanks for the reminder about Povidi.com.  I had used it awhile ago, but it 
had slipped my mind (along with a lot of other things).  It works great with 
Jaws 10 on Win XP and IE 8.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 10 freezes when on Youtube!



Hi Paul,
First, make sure that your flash player is up to date, and try the 
following

site:
http://www.povidi.com/yourtube/
I have been using this way of accessing YouTube, and it works extremely 
well

using
Jaws 6.2, IE 8 and Windows XP.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: (Lists) Paul Traynor pauls_li...@eircom.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:54 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 10 freezes when on Youtube!


Hi All,

IE8, Jaws 10 and windows XP. Lately when attempting to play a Youtube 
item,

jaws and windows freezes up like it has had a bad reaction to the flash
maybe??, I am not sure, can anyone offer me any ideas or solutions.

Many thanks,

Paul.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Gmail and Jaws.

[John M.]

I'm using Jaws 10 and XP SP3 and Gmail works good in Basic HTML view.  There 
are several tasks which require the Standard view.  For example, marking a 
particular email address to never be flagged as spam can only be done in 
Standard view.  Otherwise, no problems.


John

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From: Stanley Smith ssm...@mastnet.net

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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Gmail and Jaws.


Question.  I have Jaws 9.0 and Windows XP pro SP3 on my system.  How well 
does Gmail work with Jaws.  Thanks a lot.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check Mark in MS Word 2007

[John M.]

Hi Jerry,
I do not know if this will work in Office 2007, but in Office 2002: from the 
menu bar select InsertSymbol; select the Wingdings font and enter character 
number 254.  This will give you a check mark.  In Jaws, it will speak the 
check mark as character field 254.

Hope that helps.
John

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From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Check Mark in MS Word 2007


Good morning.  Can anyone tell me what the ALT number combination is to 
insert a check mark in an MS Word 2007 word document?  Many thanks.  Jerry

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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program

[John M.]

David,
Take a look at the following page.  I'm sure you will find something in 
there that will meet your requirements for stopping a program.

http://ss64.com/nt/kill.html

John

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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:47 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program



It occurs to me that a program that will automatically shutdown another
running program while not necessarily shutting down the computer might be
nice. Does anybody know of such an animal?

This would be for example when you want something to run but for only a
certain period of time, just a thought. I would be surprised if such a 
thing

existed.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to copy and paste from the

[John M.]

I'll give you the brute force method that I use:

From the command line window, press Alt-Spacebar to open the System Menu.

Arrow down to the Edit menu, press the right arrow.
Arrow down to select all and press Enter.
Press Alt-Spacebar and arrow down to the edit menu and press the right 
arrow.

Arrow down to Copy and press Enter.
Open Notepad and press Ctrl-V to paste the contents into Notepad.
Copy what you want from within Notepad and paste it as needed.
It may be somewhat clumsy, but it works every time.
John

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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to copy and paste from the


I'll see if I can come up with another suggestion for you after my yard 
work

is attempted.
David Ferrin
A person who has a closed mind is afraid of learning.
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From: Tom Vos v...@iowatelecom.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to copy and paste from the


I've tried the various commands that JAWS has for the virtual viewer, with
no success.
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:37:23 -0400
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to copy and paste from the
CMD window?
Message-ID: FEF3C4A9803142CF8D7E9597F58EA6D0@lenovo3aecc5bb
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Try using the virtual window command and then copy normally.
David Ferrin
A person who has a closed mind is afraid of learning.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:11 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to copy and paste from the CMD 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager and JFW

[John M.]

Hi Rhonda,
I am also trying out this program.  I must say that for the price, I am not 
impressed.  One of the biggest drawbacks that I have found is that the 
reports are not accessible.


I currently produce my invoices using Word and track income and expenses 
using Excel.  Before I lost my eye sight, I used QuickBooks, which did a 
great job.  I am going to try and find an older version of QuickBooks and 
determine if I can effectively use it with Jaws.


Good luck with your evaluation.
John

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From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:10 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager and JFW


I'm trying out the Cash Manager software out of New Zeeland and listened 
to a podcast about how well it works for blind users using Jaws. I'm 
noticing that I'm not able to access all the fields as easily as said, and 
would like to find some folks who have used the program to teach me how to 
use it or what I might be missing.


So has anyone here had experience with Accomplish Cash Manager?

Thank you,
Rhonda
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager and JFW

[John M.]

I will give that a try and report back.
John

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From: Don Marang donald.mar...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager and JFW


Have you looked into using Quickbooks online through a browser?  I have 
not used it, but their advertisements sound like you can use it in a 
limited way for free.  If memory serves, it allows several invoices per 
month for free.  It should certainly let you determine if it fits your 
needs and is accessible.


*Don Marang*

On 10/20/2011 1:48 PM, Rhonda Scott wrote:

Hi John,

Thank you for pointing it out about the reports not being accessible. My
husband and I own a small business and have been searching for a few 
years
for software compatible with Jaws that will allow us to keep inventory, 
keep
track of income and expenses, invoicing, etc. It is possible to do some 
of

that in Excel, but that became tricky when business picked up and we were
constantly making sales with no one to input those into Excell and 
subtract

from inventory.

My husband is hopeful I will be able to use Cash Manager independently, 
but

from what I've seen running it with Jaws, there are some areas I can't
simply tab through when entering a new invoice, as the pod cast I 
listened

to indicated could be done.

Please keep me up to date off list about your progress in finding 
something.
I found someone who can help me learn to use the limited accessible 
features

in QuickBooks with Jaws, but I really need something fully accessible for
our business.

Rhonda



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From: John M.jobhun...@box547.com
To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager and JFW


Hi Rhonda,
I am also trying out this program.  I must say that for the price, I am 
not

impressed.  One of the biggest drawbacks that I have found is that the
reports are not accessible.

I currently produce my invoices using Word and track income and expenses
using Excel.  Before I lost my eye sight, I used QuickBooks, which did a
great job.  I am going to try and find an older version of QuickBooks and
determine if I can effectively use it with Jaws.

Good luck with your evaluation.
John

- Original Message -
From: Rhonda Scottearthmag...@sbcglobal.net
To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:10 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager and JFW



I'm trying out the Cash Manager software out of New Zeeland and listened
to a podcast about how well it works for blind users using Jaws. I'm
noticing that I'm not able to access all the fields as easily as said, 
and
would like to find some folks who have used the program to teach me how 
to

use it or what I might be missing.

So has anyone here had experience with Accomplish Cash Manager?

Thank you,
Rhonda
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager

[John M.]

Can you provide the link to the trial version.  I would like to give it a 
try.  I am tired of using Excel spreadsheets.  Back in the day, QuickBooks 
was so nice and easy, but it's accessibility leaves a lot to be desired.

Thanks,
John

- Original Message - 
From: Rhonda Scott earthmag...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accomplish Cash Manager


I was told of this accounting software when an accountant I know called 
Freedom Scientific to ask if QuickBooks is accessible enough with Jaws for 
my husband and I to use it at our business. The tech said we would not be 
able to use QuickBooks for everything we would like to do, but gave us the 
link to download a trial version of Cash Manager. He said FS has had good 
reports on its accessibility. So I'm wondering if any of you here have used 
it before.


I have the trial version installed and have begun to explore features and 
accessibility. So far I really like what the program can do and it looks 
promising. It would be nice to find some others who are experienced users.


Thanks,
Rhonda

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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF readers

[John M.]

I have tried FoxIt and Sumatra.  Both are small, fast PDF readers, that can 
run rings around Adobe Reader.  Unfortunately, neither works with Jaws or 
NVDA.  With FoxIt, all of the menus are very accessible, just not the PDF 
content.  I have tried contacting FoxIt Software, in an attempt to have them 
consider tweaking the FoxIt Reader to work with screen readers, but no luck. 
Maybe if others do the same, they will listen.


John

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From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:40 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF readers



Hello List
Are there other pdf readers that work well with Jaws? I find
that Adobe does not always handle columns well.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF readers

[John M.]

I was not aware of that.  I will give it a try.
Thanks,
John

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF readers



Hi John
I have the same experience with Sumatra, however if I save 
the file as a text with sumatra's save as text function it 
reads much better than a pdf file which was saved to text 
with Adobe.

Regards
Fanus

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From: John M. jobhun...@box547.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF readers


I have tried FoxIt and Sumatra.  Both are small, fast PDF 
readers, that can
run rings around Adobe Reader.  Unfortunately, neither works 
with Jaws or
NVDA.  With FoxIt, all of the menus are very accessible, 
just not the PDF
content.  I have tried contacting FoxIt Software, in an 
attempt to have them
consider tweaking the FoxIt Reader to work with screen 
readers, but no luck.

Maybe if others do the same, they will listen.

John

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:40 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF readers



Hello List
Are there other pdf readers that work well with Jaws? I 
find

that Adobe does not always handle columns well.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: [JAWS-Users] blind software planner

[John M.]

David,
I am not prompted for a password, but cannot extract the installer from the 
zip file.  Tried both Windows and WinRar with no success.


John

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:03 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] blind software planner


According to my news letter Justin is giving away a free copy of his 
planner program which I have just obtained, but there is a problem. It 
seems to require a password to unlock the zip archive which he did not 
provide. Has anybody else run in to this difficulty?

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Image for Windows Question

[John M.]

Hi Don,
Would you consider creating a podcast for setting up Vinux with Image for 
Linux?  This would be an incredibly valuable resource for so many of us.  I 
would be willing to pay for such a podcast.  Or, maybe it could be a Thank 
you gift for donating to the Vinux project.


John

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Image for Windows Question


I use Image for Windows to make a disk image of my internal hard drive.  I 
write it to a 2 TB external USB hard drive.  I have Vinux installed on a 
USB Flash drive with a live version of the VinuxOperating System on it.  In 
the persistent storage, I install Image for Linux.  This provides me a 
Rescue device that provides speech all of the way through.  I can use Image 
for Linux to restore the disk image.  It also has lots of Linux recovery 
tools.


*Don Marang*
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 
http://www.vinuxproject.org/
There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any 
real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am 
working on things that matter.

-- Dean Kamen

On 4/6/2011 7:58 PM, Don  Cher Bosch wrote:
Just purchased this program. Are there any special set up instructions? 
From
David's tutorial it sounded like I'll only use the IFW program, so is 
there

a way to just set up that one and leave out the others?



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