Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[patti]

Yes it was on my computer when I downloaded C cleaner. Unchecky didn't
uncheck it, lol, so I had to go rip it out of my computer.
Patti

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry I didn't warn y'all about that Chrome & Toolbar crap!
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: andy t
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google
tool
bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
> from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
> a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
>> Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
>> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
>> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
>> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
>> click
>> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
>> organized
>> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
>> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
>> give
>> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
>> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
>> the
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
>> me
>> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
>>

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[andy t]

Hello Mike I have downloaded it before and ran across this but for some 
reason I could not download it this morning I clicked every download on the
dorn sight for Ccleaner I don't know what they did over there I saved a link 
in my favorites for a sight with out the junk but when I went to it this
morning it took me to the regular sight but I could not download it no 
matter what I did.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry I didn't warn y'all about that Chrome & Toolbar crap!
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: andy t

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google
tool
bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner wa

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Maria Campbell]

Hey Kimson, would you please stop being so respectful?  LOL


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/19/2016 3:37 PM, Kimsan wrote:

I'm sure my computer is important to me just as yours.

I would bet the farm a majority of the folks here may have not known about
the supposed work around; however, thanks for sharing.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

There is a work around for the checkbox issue.

The items are presented in a tree view.  Upon arriving at the beginning of
the tree branch, checking and unchecking the main branch will force all the
other checkboxes to be checked, and thereby showing with Jaws.

You can now go down the list unchecking the boxes you want to uncheck and
leaving the items you want checked.

Not sure why people are getting put down by this little issue.

My computer is important enough that a little problem like this would not
deter me from using such a valuable product.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

I'm sure my computer is important to me just as yours. 

I would bet the farm a majority of the folks here may have not known about
the supposed work around; however, thanks for sharing.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

There is a work around for the checkbox issue.

The items are presented in a tree view.  Upon arriving at the beginning of
the tree branch, checking and unchecking the main branch will force all the
other checkboxes to be checked, and thereby showing with Jaws.

You can now go down the list unchecking the boxes you want to uncheck and
leaving the items you want checked.

Not sure why people are getting put down by this little issue.

My computer is important enough that a little problem like this would not
deter me from using such a valuable product.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry I didn't warn y'all about that Chrome & Toolbar crap!
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: andy t
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google
tool
bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
> from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
> a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
>> Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
>> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
>> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
>> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
>> click
>> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
>> organized
>> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
>> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
>> give
>> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
>> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
>> the
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
>> me
>> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
>> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
>> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Scorpio]

There is a work around for the checkbox issue.

The items are presented in a tree view.  Upon arriving at the beginning of 
the tree branch, checking and unchecking the main branch will force all the 
other checkboxes to be checked, and thereby showing with Jaws.


You can now go down the list unchecking the boxes you want to uncheck and 
leaving the items you want checked.


Not sure why people are getting put down by this little issue.

My computer is important enough that a little problem like this would not 
deter me from using such a valuable product.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

Yeah, the best thing is to simply wait until it's on the jaws-users.com
site. I found it once by luck on the regular site, but since then nope.
When David shuts down this site, we are all in trouble lol. Or just start
sending Mike B requests for the program. :)

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene,

It takes a little practice to learn how the CCleaner website is layed out,
but for the time being quit frustrating yourself, & get it from the
Jaws-Users website.  I posted the direct link a little awhile ago.  The
Puriform website has always been a pain in the a** to navigate.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have a
hard time using even free products from a company that employs such
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.

First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at the
same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their installer
with third party products that install regardless of whether you left the
check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still had it install
chrome and the google toolbar.

Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!

As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other
greedy money grabbing companies.

End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> Jean,
> I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the 
> word Bree appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you 
> want, or if you run the pro version without purchasing it, will it run 
> as a free version? I purchase the pro version recently, so I have not 
> downloaded the free version for a few months. Good luck.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner <genewarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free 
> version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being 
> downloaded is for the pro version.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
>> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will 
>> help you find it.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
>> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his 
>> website under the programs page.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Kimsan Song
>> kimsans...@icloud.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just 
>> spent the last half hour trying to download the free version of 
>> CCleaner and either the web site ran me around in circles or kept 
>> trying to push pro on me.
>>
>> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell 
>> you something you don't want.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, 
>>> & go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by 
>>> default.
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Gene Warner
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no 
>>> longer know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have 
>>> nothin

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

It takes a little practice to learn how the CCleaner website is layed out, 
but for the time being quit frustrating yourself, & get it from the 
Jaws-Users website.  I posted the direct link a little awhile ago.  The 
Puriform website has always been a pain in the a** to navigate.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have
a hard time using even free products from a company that employs such
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.

First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at
the same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their
installer with third party products that install regardless of whether
you left the check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still
had it install chrome and the google toolbar.

Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!

As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other
greedy money grabbing companies.

End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> Jean,
> I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word 
> Bree appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if 
> you run the pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free 
> version? I purchase the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the 
> free version for a few months. Good luck.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner <genewarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free 
> version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded 
> is for the pro version.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
>> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help 
>> you find it.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
>> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his 
>> website
>> under the programs page.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Kimsan Song
>> kimsans...@icloud.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent 
>> the
>> last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
>> the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.
>>
>> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
>> something you don't want.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
>>> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by 
>>> default.
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Gene Warner
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
>>> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
>>> as a known reference.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>>>
>>>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
>>>> & Settings do the following.
>>>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>>>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>>>&

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[andy t]

Thank you for the direct download link I tried downloading it from the sight 
for over an hour this morning and every time I  entered on the download
link it took me back to the main page I finally got it from your link and 
installed it but I had to uncheck the check boxes for Google crom and google 
tool

bar.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner,
but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

There is a program called unchecky that will take care of the extra stuff
that it tries to install; however, there's an argument that it's not 110%
bullet proof.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have a
hard time using even free products from a company that employs such
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.

First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at the
same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their installer
with third party products that install regardless of whether you left the
check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still had it install
chrome and the google toolbar.

Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!

As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other
greedy money grabbing companies.

End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> Jean,
> I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word
Bree appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if you
run the pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free version? I
purchase the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the free version
for a few months. Good luck.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner <genewarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free
version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded
is for the pro version.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
>> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help
you find it.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
>> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his 
>> website under the programs page.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Kimsan Song
>> kimsans...@icloud.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just 
>> spent the last half hour trying to download the free version of 
>> CCleaner and either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying
to push pro on me.
>>
>> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell 
>> you something you don't want.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, 
>>> & go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by
default.
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Gene Warner
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no 
>>> longer know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have 
>>> nothing to use as a known reference.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>>>
>>>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, 
>>>> Options, & Settings do the following.
>>>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>>>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>>>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>>>> press
>>>> enter,

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

And it did not, as the only free I located was "start free trial"

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David G. Carlson Via iPhone
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> 
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & 
> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use 
> as a known reference.
> 
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>> 
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, 
>> & Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Gene,
>> 
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls 
>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought 
>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the 
>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to 
>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top, 
>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear 
>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version 
>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my 
>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it 
>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to 
>> do
a restart.
>> 
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read 
>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on 
>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 
>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs 
>> I always had instal

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

I am now seriously considering removing CCleaner from my system, I have 
a hard time using even free products from a company that employs such 
deceptive and underhanded tactics to earn a buck.


First they make it difficult at best to find the free version while at 
the same time pushing hard for you to buy pro, then they load their 
installer with third party products that install regardless of whether 
you left the check boxes checked or unchecked them as I did and still 
had it install chrome and the google toolbar.


Of course I uninstalled the unwanted programs, but if this is what I can 
look forward to every time there's a new version, sorry but no thank you!


As far as I'm concerned, the Piriform of old that produced the best free 
cleanup tool is gone along with its tool. They went the way of all other 
greedy money grabbing companies.


End of rant, I will say no more.



On 12/19/2016 3:57 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

Jean,
I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word Bree 
appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if you run the 
pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free version? I purchase 
the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the free version for a few 
months. Good luck.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner <genewarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free version, but 
when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded is for the pro 
version.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
as a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
& Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do

a restart.


Dave
Ore

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David Ferrin]

Thanks to Mike who keeps me up to date with the latest version as they come 
out.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows
me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner,
but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about 

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

Jean,
I recall there are more than one place is on their website where the word Bree 
appears. Perhaps one of the other places is the one you want, or if you run the 
pro version without purchasing it, will it run as a free version? I purchase 
the pro version recently, so I have not downloaded the free version for a few 
months. Good luck.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Gene Warner <genewarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free version, but 
when the notification bar comes up, the file being downloaded is for the pro 
version.

Cheers!



> On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:
> I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
> find it.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
> under the programs page.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
> last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
> the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.
> 
> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
> something you don't want.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>> 
>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
>> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gene Warner
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
>> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
>> as a known reference.
>> 
>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>> 
>>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
>>> & Settings do the following.
>>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>>> press
>>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>>> Dennis
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dave
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gene,
>>> 
>>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
>>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
>>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
>>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
>>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
>>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
>>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
>>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
>>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
>>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
>>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
>>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
> a restart.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> Or

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

OK. Glad to help.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Gene Warner <genewarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ooh! I hadn't thought of that!

Thanks!



> On 12/19/2016 3:15 PM, Kimsan wrote:
> I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
> What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
> under the programs page.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
> last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
> the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.
> 
> I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
> something you don't want.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>> 
>> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
>> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gene Warner
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
>> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
>> as a known reference.
>> 
>> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>> 
>>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
>>> & Settings do the following.
>>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>>> press
>>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>>> Dennis
>>> Take Care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Dave
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gene,
>>> 
>>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
>>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
>>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
>>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
>>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
>>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
>>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
>>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
>>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
>>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
>>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
>>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
> a restart.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
>>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
>>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
>>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essentia

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Oh, I have no trouble finding a link that seems to be for the free 
version, but when the notification bar comes up, the file being 
downloaded is for the pro version.


Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 3:39 PM, David G. Carlson Via iPhone wrote:

I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
as a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
& Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do

a restart.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs
I always had installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is
v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!




On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were
installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive
the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn
more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of
cCleaner, but I still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers t

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Ooh! I hadn't thought of that!

Thanks!



On 12/19/2016 3:15 PM, Kimsan wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, &
go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use
as a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options,
& Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls
are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought
up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the
upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to
Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information.
CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top,
right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear
below, once selected. I think you should give the free version
another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my
copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it
allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do

a restart.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read
the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on
or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because
before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs
I always had installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is
v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were
installed, I can no longer run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive
the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on
this PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn
more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of
cCleaner, but I still get that notification when I try to run it.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

I suggest that you do a jaw search for the word free and that will help you 
find it.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Kimsan <kimsans...@icloud.com> wrote:

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



> On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> 
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & 
> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use 
> as a known reference.
> 
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>> 
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, 
>> & Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> Gene,
>> 
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls 
>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought 
>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the 
>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to 
>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information. 
>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top, 
>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear 
>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version 
>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my 
>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it 
>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
a restart.
>> 
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read 
>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on 
>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 
>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs 
>> I always had installed and up to date.
>> 
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is 
>> v5.25.5902
>> 
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> O

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene & Kimsan,

Here you go:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/ccsetup525.exe

Our esteemed list owner keeps the latest CCleaner version on the Programs 
page.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro
on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
> from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
> a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
>> Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
>> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
>> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
>> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
>> click
>> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
>> organized
>> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
>> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
>> give
>> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
>> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
>> the
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows 
>> me
>> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
>> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
>> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
>> vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
>> installed and up to date.
>>
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902
>>
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
>>> installing
>>> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
>>> longer
>>> run cCleaner

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Kimsan]

I absolutely hate that site when looking for the download.
What I do is just wait until David f puts the latest version on his website
under the programs page.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent the
last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and either
the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro on me.

I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you
something you don't want.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & 
> go from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Gene Warner
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Mike
>
> Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
> know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use 
> as a known reference.
>
> Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi Dave & Gene,
>>
>> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, 
>> & Settings do the following.
>> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
>> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
>> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
>> press
>> enter, then it will say edit button.
>> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
>> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
>> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
>> Dennis
>> Take Care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dave
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
>> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls 
>> are spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought 
>> up. For example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the 
>> upper-level control buttons to come to the section pertaining to 
>> Tools. Then I can click on one of those to bring up more information. 
>> CCleaner seems to be organized with the upper-level controls on top, 
>> right after the Update choice. Then any sub-level controls appear 
>> below, once selected. I think you should give the free version 
>> another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and I've set my 
>> copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
>> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it 
>> allows me to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do
a restart.
>>
>> Dave
>> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>>
>>
>> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read 
>> the control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on 
>> or off, etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because 
>> before I lost my vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs 
>> I always had installed and up to date.
>>
>> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is 
>> v5.25.5902
>>
>> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
>> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
>> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
>>> installing Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were 
>>

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Where the heck is the download link for the free version? I just spent 
the last half hour trying to download the free version of CCleaner and 
either the web site ran me around in circles or kept trying to push pro 
on me.


I hate companies that use such deceptive practices to try and sell you 
something you don't want.


Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Thanks, Mike!

It will be really nice to be able to use CCleaner again.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 2:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64,
press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can
click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be
organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should
give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using
the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

Find a setting like, Check for Updates, which is checked by default, & go 
from there.  Monitoring, is another 1 that is checked / On by default.
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as
a known reference.

Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Dave & Gene,
>
> If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
> Settings do the following.
> 1. Find an option you know the status of.
> 2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
> It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, 
> press
> enter, then it will say edit button.
> 3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
> 4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
> NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
> Dennis
> Take Care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> - Original Message -
> From: Dave
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Gene,
>
> That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
> continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
> spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
> example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
> control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can 
> click
> on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be 
> organized
> with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
> any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should 
> give
> the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
> I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using 
> the
> cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
> to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
> control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
> etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
> vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
> installed and up to date.
>
> By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902
>
> How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
> like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
> programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
>> installing
>> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
>> longer
>> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>>
>> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
>> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>>
>> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
>> I
>> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Good suggestion. Perhaps my scripts have always been set this way  since way 
back.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:03
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Mike

Thanks for that, Unfortunately, it's been long enough that I no longer 
know any of CCleaner's default settings, so would have nothing to use as 
a known reference.


Thanks anyway. I've gotten used to life without it.

Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 1:03 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, &
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

That's been my experience. I wonder why there's such a disparity between 
users of the same operating system and JAWS versions?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Subash" <subasht...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 09:35
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I am running it on windows 7 and windows 8.1 on another computer and have no
issues with it.
Haven't tried it on Win 10 as yet.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Gene,

Close enough for me.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 08:41
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Dave

Who is terraform? Last I knew, the developers of CCleaner were Piriform.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 11:19 AM, Dave wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I can't speak for Windows 10, and if that's true, then I suspect CCleaner
> will very quickly fix that issue. Have you visited the Terraform web site 
> to
> see if there is a free version listed under Windows 10 specifically?
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike O'Brien" <mike23...@verizon.net>
> To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:15
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10
>
>
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no 
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but 
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Mike B.]

Hi Dave & Gene,

If you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, & 
Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name, should say Ccleaner64, press 
enter, then it will say edit button.
3. Tab once & arrow down to check box.
4. Tab to add class button press space bar.  Then to ok.
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis
Take Care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Subash]

I am running it on windows 7 and windows 8.1 on another computer and have no 
issues with it.

Haven't tried it on Win 10 as yet.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[John Vernaleken`]

Have the same problem.

John


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 10:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.  


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Dave

Some of it was accessible after a fashion, for example, JAWS would not 
read whether an option in the application cleaner was checked or not 
after I clicked it until I left it and came back to it. Then the startup 
options use push-on, push-off (like a ballpoint pen) buttons instead of 
check boxes, and I could never get JAWS to tell me if those buttons were 
pushed or not. There were other issues too, the whole thing seemed 
pretty hit or miss as to whether it was accessible or not. My last 
attempt to use it was with CCleaner version 5.x and JAWS 17 on Windows 7.


I've tried to use it several times over the past 3 years hoping things 
would improve but they never did.


At this point, unless the developers themselves come forth and 
specifically declare that they've taken steps to make CCleaner fully 
accessible, I'm not inclined to mess with it again.


Cheers!


On 12/19/2016 11:16 AM, Dave wrote:

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish
installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no
longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but
I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

Dave

Who is terraform? Last I knew, the developers of CCleaner were Piriform.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 11:19 AM, Dave wrote:

Mike,

I can't speak for Windows 10, and if that's true, then I suspect CCleaner
will very quickly fix that issue. Have you visited the Terraform web site to
see if there is a free version listed under Windows 10 specifically?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Mike O'Brien" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:15
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Mike,

I can't speak for Windows 10, and if that's true, then I suspect CCleaner 
will very quickly fix that issue. Have you visited the Terraform web site to 
see if there is a free version listed under Windows 10 specifically?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike O'Brien" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:15
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Dave]

Gene,

That's very strange. I've been running CCleaner for a few years, and 
continue to do so using JAWS versions 11 through 18. All the controls are 
spoken, and once selected, the sub-controls or lists are brought up. For 
example, if I click on Tools, I then tab down past all the upper-level 
control buttons to come to the section pertaining to Tools. Then I can click 
on one of those to bring up more information. CCleaner seems to be organized 
with the upper-level controls on top, right after the Update choice. Then 
any sub-level controls appear below, once selected. I think you should give 
the free version another try, since I agree it's a very useful tool, and 
I've set my copy up to do monitoring in the background, as well as using the 
cleanup features. I particularly like the startup tool, since it allows me 
to disable or remove startup elements without forcing me to do a restart.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarn...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 07:46
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10


I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off,
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had
installed and up to date.

By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.

Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:
> Hi
>
> About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish 
> installing
> Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no 
> longer
> run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:
>
> New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
> PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more
>
> I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but 
> I
> still get that notification when I try to run it.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I can no longer run cCleaner in Windows 10

[Gene Warner]

I've never been able to run CCleaner with JAWS, while JAWS will read the 
control names, it would never tell me what they were set to, on or off, 
etc. So I gave up on it, which is disappointing because before I lost my 
vision, CCleaner was one of those essential programs I always had 
installed and up to date.


By the way, according to their web site, the latest version is v5.25.5902

How disappointing, while a free version is still available, it looks 
like CCleaner is fast becoming another one of the many commercial 
programs that promise to clean and fix your PC.


Cheers!



On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

About a week ago, I had to reboot my 2Windows computers to finish installing
Windows Updates.  After the Windows updates were installed, I can no longer
run cCleaner on these systems.  I receive the message:

New notification from Compatibility Assistant, This app can't run on this
PC, CCleaner doesn't work on this version of Windows. Learn more

I've downloaded what I believe to be the current version of cCleaner, but I
still get that notification when I try to run it.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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