Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites (HTTPS problems)

2020-11-15 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi,

Am 15.11.20 um 15:47 schrieb Maciej Jaros:
> It seems there are no HSTS headers for openoffice.org. There should
> also be redirects to HTTPS.
>
> Note that this is kind of important because (within months) executable
> downloads will be forbidden over HTTP. It actually should have
> happened with Chrome 85, but I believe it was delayed due to covid (as
> was TLS 1.0 depreciation).

"Soft" or "hard" redirection, which was discussed here, is something
different than redirection from HTTP to HTTPS.

I think permanent redirection to HTTPS will be addressed with the
ongoing switch to our new CMS.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>> curl -s -D - "http://openoffice.org/; -o nul
>> HTTP/1.1 302 Found
>> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:00:20 GMT
>> Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
>> Location: http://www.openoffice.org/
>> Content-Length: 210
>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> This should be:
>> Location: https://www.openoffice.org/
>
>
> This should also redirect with 302 instead of 200.
>> curl -s -D - "http://www.openoffice.org/; -o nul
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:00:34 GMT
>> Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
>> Accept-Ranges: bytes
>> Vary: Accept-Encoding
>> Transfer-Encoding: chunked
>> Content-Type: text/html
>
> And once that is done "https://www.openoffice.org/; should return:
>> Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=2592000; includeSubDomains
>
> I assume that using sub-domains variant is OK, because there is a
> wildcard certificate.
>
> And after all that, the grade on SSL Labs test should be upgraded to
> A+ 
>
> Cheers,
> Nux.
>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites (HTTPS problems)

2020-11-15 Thread Maciej Jaros
It seems there are no HSTS headers for openoffice.org. There should also 
be redirects to HTTPS.


Note that this is kind of important because (within months) executable 
downloads will be forbidden over HTTP. It actually should have happened 
with Chrome 85, but I believe it was delayed due to covid (as was TLS 
1.0 depreciation).



curl -s -D - "http://openoffice.org/; -o nul
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:00:20 GMT
Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
Location: http://www.openoffice.org/
Content-Length: 210
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1


This should be:

Location: https://www.openoffice.org/



This should also redirect with 302 instead of 200.

curl -s -D - "http://www.openoffice.org/; -o nul
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:00:34 GMT
Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html


And once that is done "https://www.openoffice.org/; should return:

Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=2592000; includeSubDomains


I assume that using sub-domains variant is OK, because there is a 
wildcard certificate.


And after all that, the grade on SSL Labs test should be upgraded to A+ 

Cheers,
Nux.


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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Redirecting for Estonian is disabled now. My attempt to add it was the
cause of the problem. ;-)

You may see something from your browser cache now...
There should be no yellowish box anymore.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 15:46 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
> Redirect to estonian is different too now.
>
> The message is completely missing from the yellowish bar (showing just
> one-color line where used to be en-US). But clicking that empty line
> redirects now correctly to openoffice.org/et/
>
> N, 12. november 2020 16:14 Aivaras Stepukonis 
> kirjutas:
>
>> All good now. Many thanks!
>>
>> A.
>>
>> 2020-11-12 15:55, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Mea Culpa!
>>>
>>> Should now again work as expected...
>>>
>>> We will try to add Estonian back when we had a look at the code.
>>> Maybe it is only missing an "et" entry at some other place?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 14:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Hi Dave,

 Am 12.11.20 um 14:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> A clue is that Korean is the language prior to Lithuanian. So we have
>> the indexing problem I mentioned in the js code.
> Note that these arrays are defined to have 2 elements, but the code in
>> scripts/ooo.js thinks that there are 3.
>  // Query if the browser language is one of the released
>> languages.
>  // The array has 3 elements per language (defined in
>> "/download/globalvars.js"
>  for( var i = 0, j = DL.SEL_LANG.length; i < j; i = i + 3 ) {
>// If the ISO code is found in the language array.
>if( DL.SEL_LANG[ i ] === lang_iso ) {
>  // Query for the redirect method (defined in
>> "/msg_prop_l10n.js", column 0).
>  lang_mode   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 ];
>  lang_text   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 + 1 ];
>  break;
>}
>  }
>
> Ugh! This needs to be fixed.
 It may have gotten wrong when I inserted "et" to the list?

 Will remove it to see if that was the problem, but of course we should
 have a closer look at the logic...

 Regards,

 Matthias

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Matthias Seidel <
>> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The
>> only language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to
>> “hard”.
>> I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
>> Estonian doen't work either.
>>
>> That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
>> worked for lt some time ago.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> (I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it
>> counts on the array index to match the language which means adding
>> languages is a major problem with 80 variations of this js file which
>> should be 2x the number of languages we support and that count is off.)
>>> There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a
>> /lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
 On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis <
>> astepuko...@gmail.com> wrote:
 I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing
>> the Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best
>> (no pun
>> intended!!!).
> We will see if it works...
>
> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>
> Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit:
>> For
 German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
>>> Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft"
>> redirect
>>> would work?
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still
>> taken to
>> openoffice.org.
> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is
>> also
> available in "Deutsch"?
>
> *This* is soft redirection.
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Taavi Kaevats
Redirect to estonian is different too now.

The message is completely missing from the yellowish bar (showing just
one-color line where used to be en-US). But clicking that empty line
redirects now correctly to openoffice.org/et/

N, 12. november 2020 16:14 Aivaras Stepukonis 
kirjutas:

> All good now. Many thanks!
>
> A.
>
> 2020-11-12 15:55, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> > Mea Culpa!
> >
> > Should now again work as expected...
> >
> > We will try to add Estonian back when we had a look at the code.
> > Maybe it is only missing an "et" entry at some other place?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> > Am 12.11.20 um 14:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> Am 12.11.20 um 14:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> >>> A clue is that Korean is the language prior to Lithuanian. So we have
> the indexing problem I mentioned in the js code.
> >>>
> >>> Note that these arrays are defined to have 2 elements, but the code in
> scripts/ooo.js thinks that there are 3.
> >>>
> >>>  // Query if the browser language is one of the released
> languages.
> >>>  // The array has 3 elements per language (defined in
> "/download/globalvars.js"
> >>>  for( var i = 0, j = DL.SEL_LANG.length; i < j; i = i + 3 ) {
> >>>// If the ISO code is found in the language array.
> >>>if( DL.SEL_LANG[ i ] === lang_iso ) {
> >>>  // Query for the redirect method (defined in
> "/msg_prop_l10n.js", column 0).
> >>>  lang_mode   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 ];
> >>>  lang_text   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 + 1 ];
> >>>  break;
> >>>}
> >>>  }
> >>>
> >>> Ugh! This needs to be fixed.
> >> It may have gotten wrong when I inserted "et" to the list?
> >>
> >> Will remove it to see if that was the problem, but of course we should
> >> have a closer look at the logic...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Matthias Seidel <
> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Dave,
> 
>  Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> > I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The
> only language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to
> “hard”.
>  I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
>  Estonian doen't work either.
> 
>  That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
>  worked for lt some time ago.
> 
>  Matthias
> 
> > (I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it
> counts on the array index to match the language which means adding
> languages is a major problem with 80 variations of this js file which
> should be 2x the number of languages we support and that count is off.)
> >
> > There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a
> /lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis <
> astepuko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing
> the Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Aivaras
> >>
> >> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> >>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>  Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best
> (no pun
>  intended!!!).
> >>> We will see if it works...
> >>>
> >>> Something is wrong here! ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Matthias
> >>>
>  Regards,
> 
>  Aivaras
> 
>  2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> > Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> >> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit:
> For
> >> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
> > Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft"
> redirect
> > would work?
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Aivaras
> >>
> >> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> >>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>  Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still
> taken to
>  openoffice.org.
> >>> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is
> also
> >>> available in "Deutsch"?
> >>>
> >>> *This* is soft redirection.
> >>>
>  Regards,
> 
>  Aivaras
> 
>  2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> > Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and
> test the
> > soft redirection?
> > As said, for German it always worked...
> >
> > May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis

All good now. Many thanks!

A.

2020-11-12 15:55, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Mea Culpa!

Should now again work as expected...

We will try to add Estonian back when we had a look at the code.
Maybe it is only missing an "et" entry at some other place?

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 14:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Dave,

Am 12.11.20 um 14:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:

A clue is that Korean is the language prior to Lithuanian. So we have the 
indexing problem I mentioned in the js code.

Note that these arrays are defined to have 2 elements, but the code in 
scripts/ooo.js thinks that there are 3.

 // Query if the browser language is one of the released languages.
 // The array has 3 elements per language (defined in 
"/download/globalvars.js"
 for( var i = 0, j = DL.SEL_LANG.length; i < j; i = i + 3 ) {
   // If the ISO code is found in the language array.
   if( DL.SEL_LANG[ i ] === lang_iso ) {
 // Query for the redirect method (defined in "/msg_prop_l10n.js", 
column 0).
 lang_mode   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 ];
 lang_text   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 + 1 ];
 break;
   }
 }

Ugh! This needs to be fixed.

It may have gotten wrong when I inserted "et" to the list?

Will remove it to see if that was the problem, but of course we should
have a closer look at the logic...

Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,
Dave



On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Hi Dave,

Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:

I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The only 
language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to “hard”.

I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
Estonian doen't work either.

That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
worked for lt some time ago.

Matthias


(I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it counts on the 
array index to match the language which means adding languages is a major 
problem with 80 variations of this js file which should be 2x the number of 
languages we support and that count is off.)

There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a 
/lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js

Regards,
Dave


On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  wrote:

I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the Korean 
notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
intended!!!).

We will see if it works...

Something is wrong here! ;-)

Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.

Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
would work?

Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
openoffice.org.

But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
available in "Deutsch"?

*This* is soft redirection.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
soft redirection?
As said, for German it always worked...

May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Regards,

  Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Hello,

Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
language
sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
know
why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js





Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras


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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Mea Culpa!

Should now again work as expected...

We will try to add Estonian back when we had a look at the code.
Maybe it is only missing an "et" entry at some other place?

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 14:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 14:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> A clue is that Korean is the language prior to Lithuanian. So we have the 
>> indexing problem I mentioned in the js code.
>>
>> Note that these arrays are defined to have 2 elements, but the code in 
>> scripts/ooo.js thinks that there are 3.
>>
>> // Query if the browser language is one of the released languages.   
>>  
>> 
>> // The array has 3 elements per language (defined in 
>> "/download/globalvars.js"
>> 
>> for( var i = 0, j = DL.SEL_LANG.length; i < j; i = i + 3 ) {
>>   // If the ISO code is found in the language array. 
>>  
>> 
>>   if( DL.SEL_LANG[ i ] === lang_iso ) {
>> // Query for the redirect method (defined in 
>> "/msg_prop_l10n.js", column 0).  
>> 
>> lang_mode   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 ];
>> lang_text   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 + 1 ];
>> break;
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> Ugh! This needs to be fixed.
> It may have gotten wrong when I inserted "et" to the list?
>
> Will remove it to see if that was the problem, but of course we should
> have a closer look at the logic...
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
 I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The only 
 language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to “hard”.
>>> I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
>>> Estonian doen't work either.
>>>
>>> That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
>>> worked for lt some time ago.
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 (I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it counts on 
 the array index to match the language which means adding languages is a 
 major problem with 80 variations of this js file which should be 2x the 
 number of languages we support and that count is off.)

 There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a 
 /lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js

 Regards,
 Dave

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
> wrote:
>
> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the 
> Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
>>> intended!!!).
>> We will see if it works...
>>
>> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
 Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" 
 redirect
 would work?

 Matthias

> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
>>> openoffice.org.
>> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
>> available in "Deutsch"?
>>
>> *This* is soft redirection.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test 
 the
 soft redirection?
 As said, for German it always worked...

 May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

 Regards,

  Matthias

 Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on 
> Chrome,
> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
> 

Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 12.11.20 um 14:10 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> A clue is that Korean is the language prior to Lithuanian. So we have the 
> indexing problem I mentioned in the js code.
>
> Note that these arrays are defined to have 2 elements, but the code in 
> scripts/ooo.js thinks that there are 3.
>
> // Query if the browser language is one of the released languages.
>   
>   
> // The array has 3 elements per language (defined in 
> "/download/globalvars.js" 
>
> for( var i = 0, j = DL.SEL_LANG.length; i < j; i = i + 3 ) {
>   // If the ISO code is found in the language array.  
>   
>   
>   if( DL.SEL_LANG[ i ] === lang_iso ) {
> // Query for the redirect method (defined in "/msg_prop_l10n.js", 
> column 0).
>   
> lang_mode   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 ];
> lang_text   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 + 1 ];
> break;
>   }
> }
>
> Ugh! This needs to be fixed.

It may have gotten wrong when I inserted "et" to the list?

Will remove it to see if that was the problem, but of course we should
have a closer look at the logic...

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The only 
>>> language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to “hard”.
>> I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
>> Estonian doen't work either.
>>
>> That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
>> worked for lt some time ago.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> (I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it counts on 
>>> the array index to match the language which means adding languages is a 
>>> major problem with 80 variations of this js file which should be 2x the 
>>> number of languages we support and that count is off.)
>>>
>>> There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a 
>>> /lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
 On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
 wrote:

 I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the 
 Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.

 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
>> intended!!!).
> We will see if it works...
>
> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>
> Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
 German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
>>> Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
>>> would work?
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
>> openoffice.org.
> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
> available in "Deutsch"?
>
> *This* is soft redirection.
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
>>> soft redirection?
>>> As said, for German it always worked...
>>>
>>> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
 Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
 https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Hi,
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Aivaras,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Visitors of  openoffice.org 

Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Dave Fisher
A clue is that Korean is the language prior to Lithuanian. So we have the 
indexing problem I mentioned in the js code.

Note that these arrays are defined to have 2 elements, but the code in 
scripts/ooo.js thinks that there are 3.

// Query if the browser language is one of the released languages.  

  
// The array has 3 elements per language (defined in 
"/download/globalvars.js"   
 
for( var i = 0, j = DL.SEL_LANG.length; i < j; i = i + 3 ) {
  // If the ISO code is found in the language array.

  
  if( DL.SEL_LANG[ i ] === lang_iso ) {
// Query for the redirect method (defined in "/msg_prop_l10n.js", 
column 0).  

lang_mode   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 ];
lang_text   = l10n.index_redirect_text[ i / 3 * 2 + 1 ];
break;
  }
}

Ugh! This needs to be fixed.

Regards,
Dave


> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The only 
>> language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to “hard”.
> 
> I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
> Estonian doen't work either.
> 
> That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
> worked for lt some time ago.
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>> (I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it counts on 
>> the array index to match the language which means adding languages is a 
>> major problem with 80 variations of this js file which should be 2x the 
>> number of languages we support and that count is off.)
>> 
>> There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a 
>> /lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the 
>>> Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Aivaras
>>> 
>>> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
> intended!!!).
 We will see if it works...
 
 Something is wrong here! ;-)
 
 Matthias
 
> Regards,
> 
> Aivaras
> 
> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
>>> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
>> Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
>> would work?
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Aivaras
>>> 
>>> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
> openoffice.org.
 But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
 available in "Deutsch"?
 
 *This* is soft redirection.
 
> Regards,
> 
> Aivaras
> 
> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
>> soft redirection?
>> As said, for German it always worked...
>> 
>> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>  Matthias
>> 
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Aivaras
>>> 
>>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Hi,
 
 Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Aivaras,
> 
> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
>> language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
>> know
>> why?
> "Soft" redirection works for German...
> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
> 
> Do you use Firefox? I think I had 

Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 12.11.20 um 13:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The only 
> language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to “hard”.

I tried to set it to "soft" for lt but that didn't really work better.
Estonian doen't work either.

That said, I don't know when it stopped to work, but it definitely
worked for lt some time ago.

Matthias

>
> (I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it counts on the 
> array index to match the language which means adding languages is a major 
> problem with 80 variations of this js file which should be 2x the number of 
> languages we support and that count is off.)
>
> There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a 
> /lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the 
>> Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
 intended!!!).
>>> We will see if it works...
>>>
>>> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
>> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
> Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
> would work?
>
> Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
 openoffice.org.
>>> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
>>> available in "Deutsch"?
>>>
>>> *This* is soft redirection.
>>>
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
> soft redirection?
> As said, for German it always worked...
>
> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>
> Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
>> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Hi Aivaras,

 Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
> language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
> know
> why?
 "Soft" redirection works for German...
 I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

 Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
 ago...
>>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>>> preferred language for web content.
>>>
>>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>>
>>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

Matthias

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>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Dave Fisher
I’m looking at /msg_prop_l10n.js and l10n.index_redirect_text. The only 
language that is not “none” or “soft” is Lithuanian. That is set to “hard”.

(I really do not like this l10n.index_redirect_text array as it counts on the 
array index to match the language which means adding languages is a major 
problem with 80 variations of this js file which should be 2x the number of 
languages we support and that count is off.)

There is no /lt/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js and there is a 
/lt/download/msg_prop_l10n_lt.js

Regards,
Dave

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:35 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  wrote:
> 
> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the 
> Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Aivaras
> 
> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
>>> intended!!!).
>> We will see if it works...
>> 
>> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Aivaras
>>> 
>>> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
 Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
 would work?
 
 Matthias
 
> Regards,
> 
> Aivaras
> 
> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
>>> openoffice.org.
>> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
>> available in "Deutsch"?
>> 
>> *This* is soft redirection.
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Aivaras
>>> 
>>> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
 soft redirection?
 As said, for German it always worked...
 
 May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
 
 Regards,
 
   Matthias
 
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Aivaras
> 
> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Aivaras,
>>> 
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Hello,
 
 Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
 language
 sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
 know
 why?
>>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>> 
>>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
>>> ago...
>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>> preferred language for web content.
>> 
>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>> 
>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis

Nope. Still seeing the notice in Korean in multiple browsers.

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:49, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:41 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:35 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing
the Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.

You should see some Lithuanian text now...
(Otherwise: Try clearing your browser cache)

Tested myself, Korean text redirecting to the lt page...

Something is really wrong here! ;-)

Matthias

(Will set redirection back now!)


Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
intended!!!).

We will see if it works...

Something is wrong here! ;-)

Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.

Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft"
redirect
would work?

Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
openoffice.org.

But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
available in "Deutsch"?

*This* is soft redirection.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and
test the
soft redirection?
As said, for German it always worked...

May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on
Chrome,
Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Hello,

Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
language
sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does
anyone
know
why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting
the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js






Regards,

     Matthias


Regards,

     Matthias


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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 12.11.20 um 13:41 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:35 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing
>> the Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.
> You should see some Lithuanian text now...
> (Otherwise: Try clearing your browser cache)

Tested myself, Korean text redirecting to the lt page...

Something is really wrong here! ;-)

Matthias

(Will set redirection back now!)

>
> Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
 intended!!!).
>>> We will see if it works...
>>>
>>> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
>> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
> Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft"
> redirect
> would work?
>
> Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
 openoffice.org.
>>> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
>>> available in "Deutsch"?
>>>
>>> *This* is soft redirection.
>>>
 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and
> test the
> soft redirection?
> As said, for German it always worked...
>
> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on
>> Chrome,
>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
>> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Hi Aivaras,

 Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
> language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does
> anyone
> know
> why?
 "Soft" redirection works for German...
 I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

 Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
 ago...
>>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting
>>> the
>>> preferred language for web content.
>>>
>>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>>
>>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

     Matthias

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Taavi,

4.2.0 will hopefully be our next release, then we will have an Estonian
build...
(I will update my personal L10n build soon, but 4.1.8 had priority for me)

Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:30 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
> The language pack for Estonian openoffice was last released for
> version 3.something and is in progress for 4.2.0
>
> 2020-11-12 14:27 GMT +02:00, Taavi Kaevats :
>> I am from Estonia.
>> I remember some years ago translating the webpage to some extent
>> through e-mail with you, Matthias, but openoffice.org dropdown
>> language menu has no Estonian/Eesti included..
>>
>> 2020-11-12 14:22 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel :
>>> Hi Taavi,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:19 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
 for me when i open www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft i can see a note:
 "This site is also available in English (en-US). Just click this text
 to get redirected."
 And clicking on it redirects from www.openoffice.org to
 www.openoffice.org on all localized browsers. But then again my locale
 is not present on this webpage
>>> What is "your" locale?
>>> Do we have a release for that language?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>

 2020-11-12 14:07 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel
 :
> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
> soft redirection?
> As said, for German it always worked...
>
> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
>> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Hi Aivaras,

 Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
> know
> why?
 "Soft" redirection works for German...
 I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

 Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>>> preferred language for web content.
>>>
>>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>>
>>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

 Matthias

> Regards,
>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 12.11.20 um 13:35 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing
> the Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.

You should see some Lithuanian text now...
(Otherwise: Try clearing your browser cache)

Matthias

>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
>>> intended!!!).
>> We will see if it works...
>>
>> Something is wrong here! ;-)
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
 Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft"
 redirect
 would work?

 Matthias

> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
>>> openoffice.org.
>> But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
>> available in "Deutsch"?
>>
>> *This* is soft redirection.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and
 test the
 soft redirection?
 As said, for German it always worked...

 May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

 Regards,

    Matthias

 Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on
> Chrome,
> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Aivaras,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Hello,

 Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
 language
 sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does
 anyone
 know
 why?
>>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>>
>>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
>>> ago...
>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting
>> the
>> preferred language for web content.
>>
>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>
>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
I see you've already turned soft re-direction on, right? I'm seeing the 
Korean notice now in Firefox set to LT-lt.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:32, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
intended!!!).

We will see if it works...

Something is wrong here! ;-)

Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.

Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
would work?

Matthias


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
openoffice.org.

But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
available in "Deutsch"?

*This* is soft redirection.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
soft redirection?
As said, for German it always worked...

May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Hello,

Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
language
sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
know
why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js





Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Taavi,

Am 12.11.20 um 13:27 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
> I am from Estonia.
> I remember some years ago translating the webpage to some extent
> through e-mail with you, Matthias, but openoffice.org dropdown
> language menu has no Estonian/Eesti included..

Yes, I remember that! ;-)

But as I already wrote some time ago, the dropdown list contains only
languages we have a release for...

Matthias

>
> 2020-11-12 14:22 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel :
>> Hi Taavi,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:19 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
>>> for me when i open www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft i can see a note:
>>> "This site is also available in English (en-US). Just click this text
>>> to get redirected."
>>> And clicking on it redirects from www.openoffice.org to
>>> www.openoffice.org on all localized browsers. But then again my locale
>>> is not present on this webpage
>> What is "your" locale?
>> Do we have a release for that language?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:07 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel
>>> :
 Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
 soft redirection?
 As said, for German it always worked...

 May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

 Regards,

Matthias

 Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Aivaras,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Hello,

 Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
 sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
 know
 why?
>>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>>
>>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>> preferred language for web content.
>>
>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>
>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 12.11.20 um 13:29 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Better soft than none. Though a working hard would be the best (no pun
> intended!!!).

We will see if it works...

Something is wrong here! ;-)

Matthias

>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:26, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:22 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For
>>> German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.
>> Lithuanian is set to "hard" redirect, we could test if a "soft" redirect
>> would work?
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
> openoffice.org.
 But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
 available in "Deutsch"?

 *This* is soft redirection.

> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
>> soft redirection?
>> As said, for German it always worked...
>>
>> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   Matthias
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Hi,

 Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Aivaras,
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their
>> language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
>> know
>> why?
> "Soft" redirection works for German...
> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>
> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while
> ago...
 With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
 preferred language for web content.

 Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
 My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

 BTW: Redirection is defined here:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js





 Regards,

    Matthias

> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
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>>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 12.11.20 um 13:27 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> I see that now. I’m not at a computer, but I think that redirect=soft should 
> depend on how the user’s browser ACCEPT_LANG is set.

Exactly! And that does not seem to work anymore. At least for some
languages...

Matthias

>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:21 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:15 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For me in the US, it.OpenOffice.org redirects to www.OpenOffice.org/it/ as 
>>> expected whether I use http or https. I’m using an iPhone Safari browser.
>> Redirection from it.openoffice.org to openoffice.org/it is not what we
>> are talking about... ;-)
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> This redirection is independent of which CMS is used.
>>>
>>> If you have access to a terminal or command line can you do a dns lookup so 
>>> we can see if one of the Apache servers has become misconfigured?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:04 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
> wrote:
 I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome, Edge, 
 and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

 Regards,

 Aivaras

 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Hi,
>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Aivaras,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
>>> why?
>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>
>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
> preferred language for web content.
>
> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>
> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>
> Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Taavi Kaevats
The language pack for Estonian openoffice was last released for
version 3.something and is in progress for 4.2.0

2020-11-12 14:27 GMT +02:00, Taavi Kaevats :
> I am from Estonia.
> I remember some years ago translating the webpage to some extent
> through e-mail with you, Matthias, but openoffice.org dropdown
> language menu has no Estonian/Eesti included..
>
> 2020-11-12 14:22 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel :
>> Hi Taavi,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:19 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
>>> for me when i open www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft i can see a note:
>>> "This site is also available in English (en-US). Just click this text
>>> to get redirected."
>>> And clicking on it redirects from www.openoffice.org to
>>> www.openoffice.org on all localized browsers. But then again my locale
>>> is not present on this webpage
>>
>> What is "your" locale?
>> Do we have a release for that language?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 14:07 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel
>>> :
 Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
 soft redirection?
 As said, for German it always worked...

 May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

 Regards,

Matthias

 Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Aivaras,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Hello,

 Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
 sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
 know
 why?
>>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>>
>>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>> preferred language for web content.
>>
>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>
>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Dave Fisher
I see that now. I’m not at a computer, but I think that redirect=soft should 
depend on how the user’s browser ACCEPT_LANG is set.

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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:21 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:15 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> For me in the US, it.OpenOffice.org redirects to www.OpenOffice.org/it/ as 
>> expected whether I use http or https. I’m using an iPhone Safari browser.
> 
> Redirection from it.openoffice.org to openoffice.org/it is not what we
> are talking about... ;-)
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>> This redirection is independent of which CMS is used.
>> 
>> If you have access to a terminal or command line can you do a dns lookup so 
>> we can see if one of the Apache servers has become misconfigured?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:04 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome, Edge, 
>>> and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Aivaras
>>> 
>>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Hi,
 
> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Aivaras,
> 
> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
>> why?
> "Soft" redirection works for German...
> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
> 
> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
 With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
 preferred language for web content.
 
 Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
 My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
 
 BTW: Redirection is defined here:
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
 
 Regards,
 
   Matthias
 
> Regards,
> 
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>> 
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Taavi,

Am 12.11.20 um 13:19 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
> for me when i open www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft i can see a note:
> "This site is also available in English (en-US). Just click this text
> to get redirected."
> And clicking on it redirects from www.openoffice.org to
> www.openoffice.org on all localized browsers. But then again my locale
> is not present on this webpage

What is "your" locale?
Do we have a release for that language?

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>
> 2020-11-12 14:07 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel :
>> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
>> soft redirection?
>> As said, for German it always worked...
>>
>> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Hi,

 Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Aivaras,
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
>> why?
> "Soft" redirection works for German...
> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>
> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
 With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
 preferred language for web content.

 Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
 My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

 BTW: Redirection is defined here:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js


 Regards,

 Matthias

> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
Yes, for German, no for Lithuanian. But here's the funny bit: For 
German, the text in the yellow box is Asian characters.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:17, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
openoffice.org.

But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
available in "Deutsch"?

*This* is soft redirection.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
soft redirection?
As said, for German it always worked...

May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Regards,

     Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Hello,

Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
know
why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js



Regards,

  Matthias


Regards,

  Matthias


Regards,

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 12.11.20 um 13:15 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Hi,
>
> For me in the US, it.OpenOffice.org redirects to www.OpenOffice.org/it/ as 
> expected whether I use http or https. I’m using an iPhone Safari browser.

Redirection from it.openoffice.org to openoffice.org/it is not what we
are talking about... ;-)

Matthias

>
> This redirection is independent of which CMS is used.
>
> If you have access to a terminal or command line can you do a dns lookup so 
> we can see if one of the Apache servers has become misconfigured?
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:04 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome, Edge, 
>> and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Hi,
>>>
 Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Hi Aivaras,

 Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
> why?
 "Soft" redirection works for German...
 I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

 Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>>> preferred language for web content.
>>>
>>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>>
>>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

Matthias

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Taavi Kaevats
for me when i open www.openoffice.org/?redirect=soft i can see a note:
"This site is also available in English (en-US). Just click this text
to get redirected."
And clicking on it redirects from www.openoffice.org to
www.openoffice.org on all localized browsers. But then again my locale
is not present on this webpage


2020-11-12 14:07 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel :
> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
> soft redirection?
> As said, for German it always worked...
>
> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Hi Aivaras,

 Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
> why?
 "Soft" redirection works for German...
 I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

 Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>>> preferred language for web content.
>>>
>>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>>
>>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

 Matthias

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 12.11.20 um 13:14 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to
> openoffice.org.

But do you see a yellow (somehow) box saying that this site is also
available in "Deutsch"?

*This* is soft redirection.

>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
>> soft redirection?
>> As said, for German it always worked...
>>
>> May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
>>> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
>>> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
 Hi,

 Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Aivaras,
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone
>> know
>> why?
> "Soft" redirection works for German...
> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>
> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
 With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
 preferred language for web content.

 Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
 My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

 BTW: Redirection is defined here:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js



 Regards,

  Matthias

> Regards,
>
>  Matthias
>
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>>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi,

For me in the US, it.OpenOffice.org redirects to www.OpenOffice.org/it/ as 
expected whether I use http or https. I’m using an iPhone Safari browser.

This redirection is independent of which CMS is used.

If you have access to a terminal or command line can you do a dns lookup so we 
can see if one of the Apache servers has become misconfigured?

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:04 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  wrote:
> 
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome, Edge, 
> and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Aivaras
> 
> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Aivaras,
>>> 
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Hello,
 
 Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
 sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
 why?
>>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>> 
>>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>> preferred language for web content.
>> 
>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>> 
>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
Switching the browser UI to German did nothing. I'm still taken to 
openoffice.org.


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 14:07, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
soft redirection?
As said, for German it always worked...

May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Hello,

Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js


Regards,

     Matthias


Regards,

     Matthias


Regards,

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Can you set your preferred language to German or Korean and test the
soft redirection?
As said, for German it always worked...

May be it is a problem of the "hard" redirection.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 13:04 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome,
> Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
> 2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Aivaras,
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
 Hello,

 Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
 sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
 why?
>>> "Soft" redirection works for German...
>>> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>>>
>>> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...
>> With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
>> preferred language for web content.
>>
>> Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
>> My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.
>>
>> BTW: Redirection is defined here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
 Regards,

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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
I don't think it's an issue with Firefox. I've tested it on Chrome, 
Edge, and Opera. Neither one re-directs to https://www.openoffice.org/lt/


Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 13:59, Matthias Seidel rašė:

Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

Hello,

Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js

Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,

    Matthias


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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi,

Am 12.11.20 um 11:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Aivaras,
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
>> why?
> "Soft" redirection works for German...
> I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.
>
> Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...

With Firefox I used to be able to test redirection by setting the
preferred language for web content.

Now that only works with some languages (Korean being one)...
My guess is that it is a problem of newer Firefox versions.

BTW: Redirection is defined here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/msg_prop_l10n.js

Regards,

   Matthias

>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis

Yep, Firefox. Checked the action on Chrome. Same thing: no re-dirction.

Regards,

Aivaras

2020-11-12 12:25, Matthias Seidel rašė:

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...

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    Matthias


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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Taavi Kaevats
ah.. i didnt use neither http nor https. i only clicked link from
Aivaras's e-mail (openoffice.org) without specified protocol. it seems
my firefox opened it as https, but my chrome opened as http by
default. Different behavior of the two browsers, it seems


2020-11-12 12:20 GMT +02:00, Matthias Seidel :
> Hi Taavi,
>
> Did you really use https?
> Chrome is totally OK for me with that page.
>
> We will enable a permanent redirection to https when we finished the
> transition to our new CMS.
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> Am 12.11.20 um 11:14 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
>> Hi,
>>
>> slightly offtopic, but still related to webpage in question - What is
>> wrong with security on that webpage?
>> Firefox reports the https connetion is secure, but google chrome
>> reports not secure
>> https://prnt.sc/vhwaws
>>
>> Taavi
>>
>> 2020-11-12 11:53 GMT +02:00, Aivaras Stepukonis :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
>>> why?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aivaras
>>>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Aivaras,

Am 12.11.20 um 10:53 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know
> why?

"Soft" redirection works for German...
I had a look, for the LT page "hard" redirection is enabled.

Do you use Firefox? I think I had issues with that some while ago...

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
>
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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Taavi,

Did you really use https?
Chrome is totally OK for me with that page.

We will enable a permanent redirection to https when we finished the
transition to our new CMS.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 12.11.20 um 11:14 schrieb Taavi Kaevats:
> Hi,
>
> slightly offtopic, but still related to webpage in question - What is
> wrong with security on that webpage?
> Firefox reports the https connetion is secure, but google chrome
> reports not secure
> https://prnt.sc/vhwaws
>
> Taavi
>
> 2020-11-12 11:53 GMT +02:00, Aivaras Stepukonis :
>> Hello,
>>
>> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
>> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know why?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aivaras
>>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>



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Re: Soft redirect to localized sub-sites

2020-11-12 Thread Taavi Kaevats
Hi,

slightly offtopic, but still related to webpage in question - What is
wrong with security on that webpage?
Firefox reports the https connetion is secure, but google chrome
reports not secure
https://prnt.sc/vhwaws

Taavi

2020-11-12 11:53 GMT +02:00, Aivaras Stepukonis :
> Hello,
>
> Visitors of  openoffice.org used to be redirected to their language
> sub-sites. This feature stopped working a while ago. Does anyone know why?
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
>
>
> -
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>


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