[lace] information ?

2004-01-03 Thread Bobbinlacemaker
Can someone give me some more information on this course please ?

Thanks,

Magda (Belgium)



But the schedule of classes -- especially the Loehr's beginner Mechlin 
- -- sounds tempting enough to consider re-joining the Guild (now that I 
know I *can* drive long distance, anything is possible g)...

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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland

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Re: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-03 Thread Liz Beecher
Ok, here are my reasons -

1) pricking as you go damages your pillow as you have to use more force 
to go through the card and my cork board is cheaper and more replaceable 
than my pillows

2) When you work unusual patterns such as ovals on a block pillow, if 
you don't have all the pattern how on earth can you work out how to 
place it on the pillow

3) I've been making a very large piece that is symetrical and therefore, 
by pricking through two lots of card I pricked the whole thing out in 
half the time

4) when working a long straight piece or a square, you can to the same 
as #3 by pricking the two halves in one go.

Look, if you don't like pricking then photocopy, stick and film but 
don't get up set then if the finished piece doesn't quite have the sharp 
edges that those who prick first get as it is not easy to accurately put 
in the pins that way

And - if like me and Tamara you don't like winding the bobbins get a 
bobbin winder

Here's a story - the last time I was teaching lace the woman I was 
teaching pulled a face and said that she didn't like spangling.  So, 
trying to encourage her and because I had some time spare I offered to 
spangle some of the bobbins so that she had enough to start making lace 
and had some to copy when she spangled them herself.

Then she said that she found pricking the patterns hard on her hands - 
I've taught people with arthritus before and can sympathise - so I let 
he use one of my patterns that was already pricked out

Then she said that she couldn't work the bobbin winder she had bought, 
so I wound some bobbins on it to show her how, but she kept having 
problems with it and in the end, when I'd finished demonstrating how to 
use it I'd wound them all

Then she said that she couldn't follow me starting it off so could I 
have a go ...

I looked at her and said, 'so exactly which thiing about making lace was 
it that you actually wanted to do?'

She replied 'ah, there's two things, sitting at the reenactment with my 
pillow so people can see how clever I am and wearing it'

I managed to say, straight faced, 'were you actually intending to make 
any then?'

That was the last lesson that I gave her as she felt I wasn't supportive 
enough (I thought it wasn't because I wouldn't make the lace for her) 
and I understand that she got her boyfriend's mum to teach her the 
basics and she swans around the reenactments with the same piece of lace 
that she started with.

The only thing that really hurt was that I had given her 4 metres of 
handmade lace as a thank you and it was being passed off as her own work.

Moral of the story - we all have bits of the process we hate - me it's 
mounting the stuff, and we moan about them but we still love doing the 
craft but if you hate doing it as much as this woman did go find 
something else to do.

Have fun

Liz





Tamara P. Duvall wrote:

  On Jan 2, 2004, at 13:10, Antje González wrote:
 
   Why do you prick the whole pattern all at once? I start pricking a few
   centimeters, then I work until the pricked holes are finished, prick
   again a
   few centimeters, continue working... This makes the whole process more
   relaxing.
 
  I've often been tempted to do it the same way; pricking and winding
  bobbins are *not* on my list of favourite activities related to
  lacemaking, so it would be nice to thin it out and fit in some of
  the favourite bits (like moving bobbins) in-between the less favourite
  ones.
 
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  Tamara P Duvall

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Re: [lace] Ghost at Hampton Court

2004-01-03 Thread Liz Beecher
Actually, thinking about this again, what I do is have spurts of 
pricking things and so will spend a weekend pricking out quite a few 
patterns so that they are done and dusted for when I just want to start 
some lace.

I also used a time at a lace group to wind over 200 bobbins over 2 hour 
spurts each week and this meant I could do virtually any project in a 
particular book without having to go wind the bobbins.

But then, I'm mad

Liz

Ruth Budge wrote:
  Dear Antje,
  I prick the whole pattern before I start for a couple of reasons.  I
  don't like
  pricking on the pillow because it wears the pillow and loosens the
  pillow so
  that the pin doesn't stay as tight when I insert it;   and I can
  make a more
  accurate pricking off the pillow by using a ruler to ensure the long
  rows of
  ground are straight.
 
  It's a horrible job (in my opinion!) and I'm always glad when its over.
 
  Warm regards,
  Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia, where its very hot and very humid - thank
  goodness for air conditioning!!)

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Re: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-03 Thread Laceandbits
Just loved your story, Liz.

One of my best is when we were demonstrating lacemaking at an exhibition, one 
lady hovered for ages, then asked if lace bobbins were sold in John Lewis (a 
well known English department store).  We said it was possible, but not 
likely, and offered her lace supply and teacher's addresses.

Oh, no, it's all right. came the reply I'm sure they must do.  I'll go and 
buy A PAIR and teach myself.

A tad confused with knitting maybe but I have idled away many pleasant 
minutes since, wondering how she got on!

Jacquie

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Re: [lace] Question

2004-01-03 Thread Thodedm
In a message dated 12/31/2003 10:50:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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Do you Gentle Spiders remember our getting a (for want of a better name
to call it) thread holder in a goody bag at a lace event?

The thingy is a tube of stretchable net that fits over a spool or tube
of thread.  So handy.  Does anyone know where this can be purchased?
Apparently it can be cut to any length, is a but stiff, but pliable.

Dolace wrote asking about the above.  The net tubing is available at stores 
that sell serging machines and through outlets that sell sewing supplies.  
Sorry I can't give specifics as I can buy it locally.

Happy New Year all!

Mary in southern Michigan where the weather doesn't know it's winter.

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RE: [lace] Bowes Museum

2004-01-03 Thread Carolyn Hastings
Hi,

We visited Bowes Museum last March, and I went to the web site because I
must say the lace, as a collection, certainly didn't jump out at us.
Obviously would have helped to know what is available before the visit!

Anyway, on the web site is the description of (among hundred of items with
lace) a handkerchief bordered in lace.  This is how the description reads:
Linen handkerchief with Meander lace border like Honiton but home made.
What is Meander lace??  

The web site doesn't give a number, so I can't direct you to this particular
item.  I searched by selecting catagories from their drop down menus, and
happened upon a selection with quite a few handkerchiefs.  I suspect whoever
cataloged these didn't know a whole lot about lace.

Regards,
Carolyn

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 Bowes Museum has a web site.  WWW.bowesmuseum.org.uk
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 many years since I visited this remarkable museum.  There are 
 many interesting things to see.  If you type in Bowes museum 
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 interest in the area. Hope this helps and I do hope you visit 
 the museum. Best wishes Josie Chesterfield U.K.
 
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[lace] Bowes Museum

2004-01-03 Thread Dmt11home
I also went to the web-site and searched lace in collections and got 69 
hits.  If in fact everything is on the website (not the case at the Met.) it is 
not a very impressive collection. My own personal collection is better and I am 
not a collector who spends that much money on it. I am not sure I would go 
out of my way to go to Bowes for the purpose of seeing lace.
Devon
who perhaps has had her judgment warped by seeing the really fine collections 
at the Met and Cooper-Hewitt

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Re: [lace] one-handed lacing

2004-01-03 Thread Barb ETX
Just  noteI seem to have more of a problem with bobbins staying in
placeso I got out a helper that I used to use for bobbins rollingtwo
flat, oblong  erasers.  They stay where put, as  stopper, and easier than pins
etc.  So far, so good, but slow..I have to train my letfy to think as a
righty.  Now I think I know what dyslectic children face!
BarbE

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[lace] Fw: One handed sewing achieved

2004-01-03 Thread Sue Babbs
OK Vivienne, as you were so adamant that you didn't want advice without us trying it 
out first, I got out a
pillow and a sample of Binche lace - in fine thread. And found that it is possible to 
make a one handed sewing
using only my left hand. I am definitely VERY right-handed, and couldn't write 
anything intelligible etc with
my left. I put my right hand behind my back so that I wouldn't use it - and yes, I was 
tempted to do so.

It took me about 5 minutes to do the sewing, but I guess this would get faster.

Here are my comments:

 This would involve unwinding thread from the bobbin and then rewinding it.

I didn't need to unwind any more thread to work the sewing - just the same length that 
I would normally have
on my leashes.

I did however have to push down more pins than  in the area tahn I would doing the 
sewing with two hands. This
seemed to be because of the akward angle I was using to get in the hook.

 Put two or three support pins into the pillow, some distance from the sewing and 
 pattern. These support pins
 would need to be sufficiently far apart to hold a big enough loop of thread for the 
 bobbin to pass through.

Have the support pins ready, but don't put them in place yet.


 Insert your hook into the lace as usual, and draw through thread.

This was the hard part and took about ten attempts! But I guess it would improve with 
more practice. Put the
thread as close to the pinhole as you can get it. I used a fine pin in the pillow at 
an angle to hold the
thread close to the pillow, just above the pinhole. Have the bobbin just slightly up 
the pillow, so that some
of the tension is taken off the thread. (I was using a cookie pillow. I have no idea 
how this would work if
Lisette is using an upright Spanish type pillow, as I have never tried working in that 
way)

Pick up hook and catch thread. If this doesn't work, put hook through pinhole, with 
hook down on pricking. Use
fingernail to push thread under hook. Pull back hook. Try again and again!

Once you have caught the loop and pulled it through, leave crochet hook in loop of 
thread. Take support pin,
and put into loop of thread. Take second support pin and put about an inch away in the 
loop of thread. Take
out hook. Do not have the loop taut, as you will need some spare thread to pass the 
second bobbin through the
loop.


 Pass the other bobbin through this loop and then carefully tighten up,

Compared to the earlier part, this was easy!

I hope you can pass this idea on to Lisette
Sue Babbs
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Re: [lace] new bobbin maker website

2004-01-03 Thread dominique
the specialty bobbins are marvels !! 
thanks Sumac for the address . i might never order but it was good just 
gaping at them on the web and adding them to my wishlist ... G

dominique from paris 

Susan MacLeod a fait jouer ses doigts de fée pour écrire à  Ò[lace] new 
bobbin maker websiteÓ.
[2004/01/03 18:48]

 Barry Pawson of New Zealand has put up a website.  Lovely bobbins!  No 
 connection, just a happy customer.
 http://mairestudio.co.nz/index.htm
 Sumac
 
 Susan G. MacLeod
 Dummerston, VT  USA
 www.sover.net/~sumac
 
 Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do. John 
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[lace] information ?

2004-01-03 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
Dear Magda -- I think what Tamara was referring to is a three-day workshop
on beginning Mechlin, to be given by Ulrike Loehr on July 31, and August
1st and 2nd. This is a sponsored workshop of the Chesapeake Region Lace
Guild, and the cost is $100. As non-members have to pay an additional $8 to
take the workshop; and as it costs only $8 to become a member of the CRLG,
isn't it obvious that non-members should hurry up and JOIN? Go to the web
site of the Chesapeake Region Lace Guild, and it will tell you all about
it.  --  Aurelia

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[lace] Third hand for lace tools

2004-01-03 Thread L. E. Weiss
Hi Bev, et al --

My third hand for sewing hook/pin lifter, etc. is a magnet pinned to my
pillow.  It's a party favor from the IOLI convention in Dallas, and is a
round magnet with what I assume is a crochet cover -- a pin goes right into
the middle and it's easily moved around the pillow as needed.  I've also
bought rectangular magnets and slipped them into a little bag made from wide
ribbon that gets pinned to the pillow.  The magnet is great for grabbing the
tool quickly and keeping it within reach.

Happy New Year!
Lorraine   (in Albany, NY today but heading to Austin, TX tomorrow where the
warm weather will be a shock.)

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[lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point

2004-01-03 Thread JSyzygy
 And my lace content:  I'm struggling to finish pricking a wide floral Bucks
 handkerchief edging - I'm coming down the fourth side now.   It'll be a 
relief
 to start working it, after all this pricking!

 Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

I wish I could make floral Bucks.  I've been ages working very slowly 
through my 
how-to-make-Bucks book.  What does your edging look like?  How wide is it?  
How
many bobbins does it use (it's exciting to use lots of bobbins; the most I've 
ever used was
50 pairs)?
Did you get it from a book?  
What size thread and how many holes per inch?  I'd like to aim for making 
Bucks at the
standard size but it is not clear to me what the standard size is.  My books 
don't go into that.  I'm pretty sure the size at which I now work, using 
Egyptian Cotton 80/2, is too big.
Should I be aiming for cotton 100/2?  120/2?   I don't know what my goal 
should be.

Julie  Baltimore MD
 

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[lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 3, 2004, at 6:56, Liz Beecher wrote:

Look, if you don't like pricking then photocopy, stick and film
That's what I pre-prick -- a film-covered sandwich, with the 
photocopied pattern as the middle layer... At the beginning (in '89) I 
did try to prick through a pattern and then put in all the markings -- 
honest Injun, I *did* try... And messed up every time when drawing in 
the markings; all that sea of pinholes confused me no end. Since you 
put the markings with a waterproof pen, the mistakes were permanent. 
Which meant back to the pricking board and starting from scratch. 
Bleech; it got stale very fast :)

So then I'd draw the pattern (in pencil) on a piece of graph paper 
(became an avid collector of different;y-sized graphs g), erase and 
correct the mistakes to my heart's content, draw over the the correct 
lines with a pen, tint the pattern with a lightly-coloured crayon, then 
slap a bit of clear Contact over it. The whole thing was flimsy, so I 
started to glue it to a piece of cardboard. Thus re-inventing *the 
first* wheel of my lacemaking career (there've been many since; it is 
specified in my will that my tombstone should say: she's re-invented 
the wheel; frequently and with zeal g)... When the town got its 
first commercial photocopying place, it was like Christmas in July, for 
me :)

And - if like me and Tamara you don't like winding the bobbins get a
bobbin winder
I do have a winder, but half the time it's not worth pulling out; there 
has to be more than half a yard of thread per bobbin needed before I 
bother... What I do to break the monotony is wind a few pairs and hang 
them in, then work as far as I can, then wind a few more and hang them 
in and work some more. In essence, I'm having my veg and my desert at 
the same time :)

But there's no such relief possible when pricking (unless you break the 
monotony of that with winding bobbins g); you have to finish it 
before you get to the desert of making the lace. I don't prick 
through two parts at once (even if they're perfectly symmetrical) 
because I worry (with reason, as an experiment had proved g) about 
not being prcise enough; my needle skews a bit, and the hole is no 
longer through the centre of the dot, but on the edge of it.

OTOH, I never prick all 4 sides of a hankie-with-corners, either; I 
prick two separate quarters of it, and alternate them on the pillow to 
work. The upside of that is that I can do one quarter and start working 
sooner... I do the second quarter in bits -- a bit every time I run 
into a problem on a pillow which needs thinking to resolve. As pricking 
doesn't require much mental effort, the two go well togeter and, 
usually, the second quarter is ready by the time I need it :)

Here's a story
VBG A classic case of what DH would call and how are you fixed for 
spit? (reference to someone who borrows a cigarette, then a match, 
then an ashtray, then a fan to dissipate the smoke...

I had given her 4 metres of handmade lace as a thank you
A thank you for what? For removing herself from your orbit? Might 
have been worth *something*, I suppose, but not 4 meters of lace; not 
even if it was a piece of 8-pair lace...

we all have bits of the process we hate - me it's
mounting the stuff,
I hate mounting too :) There are even times when I hate working on the 
pillow (if it's a piece of yardage and longer than, say, a yard or so; 
by then it's all demystified and I start making mistakes through lack 
of attention). But the rush of coming up with an idea, working it out 
-- at least partways -- on paper, getting the possible knotty 
technical points solved in pre-sampling, then getting the magnum 
opus on the pillow  (choosing the threads -- heaven g) and off it 
(triumphantly and with much chest pounding. Thereafter it can get 
stashed into the back of a drawer; who cares? g)... That rush is 
unbeatable...


Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace] Re: information ?

2004-01-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 3, 2004, at 12:33, Aurelia L. Loveman wrote:

Dear Magda -- I think what Tamara was referring to is a three-day 
workshop
on beginning Mechlin, to be given by Ulrike Loehr on July 31, and 
August
1st and 2nd.
Indeed it is. She offered the same workshop in Ithaca, in '99 and I was 
*accepted* for the class, then couldn't go, for personal reasons... I 
never got over it :) And as Loehr's now working on a new book which 
will be *on* Mechlin (Ice flowers is, I think, the tentative title; I 
saw some of the patterns while at the IOLI Convention, and they were 
*scrumptious*), it's all the more reason to try learnign the 
technique... The timing is a bit uncomfortable for me, since the 
OIDFA/Prague event takes place 11-23 July (if one wants to take in the 
workshops before the Congress and the tours after, as this one --  
very definitely -- does g). Even if I slot my visit to Poland 
beforehand, it still gives me barely enough time to get over the 
jet-lag and do the laundry... :) But it's tempting, very...

Go to the web site of the Chesapeake Region Lace Guild, and it will 
tell you all about
it.
http://www.crlg.org/Calendar.html

Actually, it doesn't (as yet) say how much it'll cost or anything else 
-- just the dates, the names of the teachers and the subjects of the 
workshops...

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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #5

2004-01-03 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
Dear Laura --  I will be writing more in the coming weeks and months about
the October 2004 Lace Day at the Baltimore Museum of Art; and just at the
moment I must, must, must get to bed or I will fall asleep over my
computer; so forgive me for being so brief. The date is October 30, 2004,
it's a Saturday.  --  Aurelia

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