[lace] Mullers for handmade lace?
Hello all, Coming out of lurkdom to ask what you all think that these mullers are? I have found these on eBay uk http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7344793903sspagename=AD ME:L:RTQ:UK:1 I sent a question to the seller to ask how they were used, and the reply was muller is another name for bobbin, handmade bobbin lace involves twisting plaiting up to 200 mullers (bobbins) around each other and around a pattern of pins in the lace-making pillow. We are not experts and have taken this information from a reference book. I can't see how they are used as bobbins, does any one know? Are they for winding the finished lace on? I have sent another question to the seller asking what reference book he/she was referring to. I'm sure that the Spiders will be able to come up with plenty of ideas as to what they are. A puzzled Jenny from S. Wales, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mullers for handmade lace?
Hi, I had a reply to the question of which reference book that they had used. Quote The information we gave you comes from a book called The Antiques Care and Repair Handbook by Albert Jackson David Day on page 192, hope this helps. As I don't have the book I'm none the wiser, but I think that Tonnie is correct so I'd love to know what this reference book says to make them so sure that these Mullers are used for lacemaking. Knew some one would know. Spiders to the rescue:-))) Jenny S. Wales - Original Message - From: Tonnie McBroom To: Jenny Hester Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Mullers for handmade lace? I think this seller needs to double check the definition for Muller - The Glass Muller is used for grinding pigment and dispersing the pigment into an oil or water base. It is used on an even grinding surface such as glass or marble. The base of the muller is ground perfectly flat and has a fine tooth surface that is ideal for grinding pigment. The Muller is designed to mix paint pigments thoroughly with whatever base the artist chooses to use. Tonnie McB Phoenix, AZ, USA Jenny Hester wrote: Hello all, Coming out of lurkdom to ask what you all think that these mullers are? I have found these on eBay uk http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7344793903sspagename=AD ME:L:RTQ:UK:1 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A few years ago I coordinated some very interesting identification of materials used for bobbins and indeed other things too. I recall borrowing that book for reference material. Now, I am not saying that the reference the Mullers is not there, particularly as I was not looking for such an entry, but I scan almost every book I see for a bit of serendipity regarding bobbins of needlework tools. I do not recall the entry. - Original Message - From: Jenny Hester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Mullers for handmade lace? Hi, I had a reply to the question of which reference book that they had used. Quote The information we gave you comes from a book called The Antiques Care and Repair Handbook by Albert Jackson David Day on page 192, hope this helps. As I don't have the book I'm none the wiser, but I think that Tonnie is correct so I'd love to know what this reference book says to make them so sure that these Mullers are used for lacemaking. Knew some one would know. Spiders to the rescue:-))) Jenny S. Wales - Original Message - From: Tonnie McBroom To: Jenny Hester Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Mullers for handmade lace? I think this seller needs to double check the definition for Muller - The Glass Muller is used for grinding pigment and dispersing the pigment into an oil or water base. It is used on an even grinding surface such as glass or marble. The base of the muller is ground perfectly flat and has a fine tooth surface that is ideal for grinding pigment. The Muller is designed to mix paint pigments thoroughly with whatever base the artist chooses to use. Tonnie McB Phoenix, AZ, USA Jenny Hester wrote: Hello all, Coming out of lurkdom to ask what you all think that these mullers are? I have found these on eBay uk http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7344793903sspagename=AD ME:L:RTQ:UK:1 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 1.1203 (20050827) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mullers for handmade lace?
Hello Jenny, I haven't any idea how these could be useful for lacemaking. I used such glass-things working in my profession as Chemotechnikerin, to stir into glasses for christals or mixing or works like that. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mullers for handmade lace?
In a message dated 8/29/05 8:25:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a reply to the question of which reference book that they had used. Quote The information we gave you comes from a book called The Antiques Care and Repair Handbook by Albert Jackson David Day on page 192, hope this helps. As I don't have the book I'm none the wiser, but I think that Tonnie is correct so I'd love to know what this reference book says to make them so sure that these Mullers are used for lacemaking. Dear Lacemakers, I have this book. Page 192 falls in the Textiles section, then subtitled Decorative Treatments These are briefly described: Embroidery, Whitework, Cutwork, Broderie anglaise, Lace, Drawn thread work, Smocking, Crochet. Under lace, I will quote one of the four paragraphs: There are 3 methods of making lace. The finest is hand-made needlepoint, which grew out of embroidery techniques. A single thread was used. Hand-made bobbin lace involves twisting and plaiting up to 200 bobbins around each other and around a pattern of pins in the lace-making pillow. Machine-made lace was first introduced in the 1840s. (Sigh!) The inaccurate bad description of the bobbin lace technique - again! There is no mention of mullers on this page, or in the glossary or index of this book. I also checked the Glassware section and saw nothing like the mullers shown on websites other Arachnes have given. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Mullers for handmade lace?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes involves twisting and plaiting up to 200 bobbins around each other and around a pattern of pins in the lace-making pillow. (Sigh!) The inaccurate bad description of the bobbin lace technique - again! Yes, but I was pulled up short (in my mind) the day I was demonstrating at Sewing for Pleasure at the NEC - a bucks point piece - and overheard a fairly young father explaining to his son at my shoulder that the lace was made by wrapping the thread round the pins. so what was I actually doing at that moment... making a picot, and wrapping the thread round the pin! It is easy to see where this misconception came from. And yes, I did put them right, as I continued the work. The exception always catches out the rule! -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/84 - Release Date: 29/08/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
