Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Lucy Shore]

Hi Cathy -- OK I'll pursue that the folder issue and, if that doesn't work,
I guess I'll haul the computer to see if that's the problem. Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Lucy,
>
> You need a computer tech to help you re-establish your Documents folder
> properly if you can't do it yourself.
> It sounds as if you originally moved it properly but didn't handle it
> properly when your external drive with it on died.
>
> Cathy
>
> Ian Thomas 
>> Tuesday, 25 April 2017 10:04 AM
>>
>> Lucy – I really do believe this is due to a problem – several problems,
>> most likely - with your computer, not with either version of Legacy.
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>>
>> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>>
>> *From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Lucy Shore
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 April 2017 11:47 AM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9
>>
>> I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my
>> Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents
>> file to an external drive. That worked well until that external drive died.
>> I was getting a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that
>> particular issue but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or
>> causing other apps to freeze when open.
>>
>> Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait
>> for it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message
>> reappeared; once again I managed to work my way around that and, once
>> again, once Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.
>>
>> Really would appreciate some help with this. Many thanks!!
>>
>> Lucy Shore 
>> Tuesday, 25 April 2017 9:47 AM
>> I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my
>> Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents
>> file to an external drive. That worked well until that external drive died.
>> I was getting a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that
>> particular issue but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or
>> causing other apps to freeze when open.
>>
>> Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait
>> for it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message
>> reappeared; once again I managed to work my way around that and, once
>> again, once Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.
>>
>> Really would appreciate some help with this. Many thanks!!
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Cathy Pinner]

Lucy,

You need a computer tech to help you re-establish your Documents folder 
properly if you can't do it yourself.
It sounds as if you originally moved it properly but didn't handle it 
properly when your external drive with it on died.


Cathy


Ian Thomas 
Tuesday, 25 April 2017 10:04 AM

Lucy – I really do believe this is due to a problem – several 
problems, most likely - with your computer, not with either version of 
Legacy.


Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lucy Shore

*Sent:* Tuesday, 25 April 2017 11:47 AM
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my 
Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the 
Documents file to an external drive. That worked well until that 
external drive died. I was getting a "system failed" message until I 
was able to surmount that particular issue but then I started having 
an issue with Legacy freezing or causing other apps to freeze when open.


Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait 
for it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message 
reappeared; once again I managed to work my way around that and, once 
again, once Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything 
freezes up.


Really would appreciate some help with this. Many thanks!!

Lucy Shore 
Tuesday, 25 April 2017 9:47 AM
I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my 
Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the 
Documents file to an external drive. That worked well until that 
external drive died. I was getting a "system failed" message until I 
was able to surmount that particular issue but then I started having 
an issue with Legacy freezing or causing other apps to freeze when open.


Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait 
for it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message 
reappeared; once again I managed to work my way around that and, once 
again, once Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything 
freezes up.


Really would appreciate some help with this. Many thanks!!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Lucy Shore]

Hi Ian

I was wondering about the computer issue myself, It's a Microsoft Surface
Book and has a few quirks I haven't seen before. Any idea with respect to
where I can go from here? As an aside, though, things worked find until i
lost that external drive :) Thanks!


On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Lucy Shore  wrote:

> Yes, in fact just before posting this message!!
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup <
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>
>> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
>>
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>> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: "Loren L. Johns" 
>> To: Legacy User Group 
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:55:16 + (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9
>> Lucy:
>>
>> Have you done a file check/repair lately?
>>
>> File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair
>>
>> Peace,
>> Loren Johns
>> Elkhart, Indiana
>> --
>> "True followers of Jesus are absurdly happy, totally fearless, and almost
>> always in trouble." --Meister Eckhard
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2017, 9:49:45 PM EDT, Lucy Shore <
>> lucysho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my
>> Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents
>> file to an external drive. That worked well until that external drive died.
>> I was getting a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that
>> particular issue but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or
>> causing other apps to freeze when open.
>>
>> Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait
>> for it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message
>> reappeared; once again I managed to work my way around that and, once
>> again, once Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.
>>
>> Really would appreciate some help with this. Many thanks!!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Lucy Shore]

Yes, in fact just before posting this message!!

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
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> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Loren L. Johns" 
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:55:16 + (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9
> Lucy:
>
> Have you done a file check/repair lately?
>
> File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair
>
> Peace,
> Loren Johns
> Elkhart, Indiana
> --
> "True followers of Jesus are absurdly happy, totally fearless, and almost
> always in trouble." --Meister Eckhard
>
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2017, 9:49:45 PM EDT, Lucy Shore <
> lucysho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my
> Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents
> file to an external drive. That worked well until that external drive died.
> I was getting a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that
> particular issue but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or
> causing other apps to freeze when open.
>
> Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait for
> it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message reappeared;
> once again I managed to work my way around that and, once again, once
> Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.
>
> Really would appreciate some help with this. Many thanks!!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Ian Thomas]

Lucy – I really do believe this is due to a problem – several problems, most 
likely - with your computer, not with either version of Legacy.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Lucy Shore
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 11:47 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my Laptop. 
The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents file to an 
external drive. That worked well until that external drive died. I was getting 
a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that particular issue 
but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or causing other apps 
to freeze when open.

Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait for it. 
Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message reappeared; once 
again I managed to work my way around that and, once again, once Legacy opens, 
I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup]

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

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providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.--- Begin Message ---
Lucy:
Have you done a file check/repair lately?
    File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair
Peace, Loren Johns
Elkhart, Indiana  "True followers of Jesus are absurdly happy, totally 
fearless, and almost always in trouble." --Meister Eckhard 

On Monday, April 24, 2017, 9:49:45 PM EDT, Lucy Shore  
wrote:I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my 
Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents 
file to an external drive. That worked well until that external drive died. I 
was getting a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that 
particular issue but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or 
causing other apps to freeze when open. 
Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait for it. 
Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message reappeared; once 
again I managed to work my way around that and, once again, once Legacy opens, 
I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.
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[LegacyUG] Recurring Problem with Legacy 8 & 9

[Lucy Shore]

I've had recurring problems with both Legacy 8 and now Legacy 9 on my
Laptop. The problem started with Legacy 8.0 when I redirected the Documents
file to an external drive. That worked well until that external drive died.
I was getting a "system failed" message until I was able to surmount that
particular issue but then I started having an issue with Legacy freezing or
causing other apps to freeze when open.

Once I learned that Legacy 9 was on the way, I thought I'd simply wait for
it. Well, there I installed it and the "system failed" message reappeared;
once again I managed to work my way around that and, once again, once
Legacy opens, I can't open other apps and everything freezes up.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

[Cathy Pinner]

There are currently problems with the Cloud backup so leave it for a while.

It only intends to backup your data.

It only saves one backup copy per file. It's an "extra" backup and 
should never be your only backup.


You use the backup by going to File - File Restore in Legacy and 
choosing the Cloud option.


Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


I had assumed both database and media files were backed up. And
wondered about retrieval and restore.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ronald
Bernier
*Sent:* Tuesday, 25 April 2017 5:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

My understanding is the cloud backup is for the database only. At
present you can not backup the media files to the cloud.

Ronald Bernier

Woonsocket, RI

USA

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Dale Carmack > wrote:

I just noticed (after my initial setup) that when the backup
occurs the Family file and media files are backed up to my
computer but only the family file is backed up to the cloud. By
the way I hope they add better cloud backup information in the
Help system and also as a customization as I like to never figured
out how to re-access it (“cloud” or “online” backup” are not in
the help). I finally tried the backup button on the ribbon and saw
the check boxes but there is no check box for media to the cloud.
I figured I missed it in the setup so I clicked on manage account
but nothing happens.

If I click on manage account and click login it just returns to
the “backup dialog box screen”. If I click on “register account”
and then modify the URL to remove “register” then click login I
get the following below the Submit button and nothing else happens:

Database Problem~~string(362) "SELECT
DBTitle,Public,DefPicPath,DropboxPictureFolder,DropboxAccessToken,d.Active,NamelistToken,AllPersonsToken,Server_IP,DB_ID,Filename,dbPath,dbToken,OwnerID,ShowLDS,Writable,DefaultRin,Permissions,f.FamilyID,f.GlobalID
FROM FamilyList f LEFT JOIN DatabaseList d ON
f.FamilyID=d.FamilyID WHERE f.UserID=2014 AND d.Deleted+0=0 AND
f.Active=1 ORDER BY f.FamilyID"

So either I can’t do it this way, or maybe there is an access
problem. Can you backup the media files to the cloud?

Thanks,

dale

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[BARTON LEWIS]

Just adding to the positive reaction to the Legacy tip - I am also very 
rarely on FB.



Barton


On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 07:02 PM, Anne Wiltshire wrote:


Thanks Michele another non Facebook user.

Anne

-Original Message- From: Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:40 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy 
User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you 
will

see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you 
actually

add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID 
number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search 
results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their 
Family

Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results 
page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get 
their

FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG 
is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used 
under

license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Anne Wiltshire]

Thanks Michele another non Facebook user.

Anne

-Original Message- 
From: Michele/Support

Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:40 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 default install directory naming structure

[David Cripps]

On 24/4/17 5:25 pm, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
>
> The good news is that if just your data and media are in your
> C:\Legacy8\ folder, you can rename it to \Legacy\ or \Legacy9\ and
> record that in 6.1 and 6.2. In addition, if that's where your data
> file is, you'll need to use the File - Open in Legacy to open your
> file the next time you open Legacy and Set Options - Customise 1.2 to
> open the file you want in the right folder (don't just see the
> filename and assume it's the one in the right folder).

Disregard my post entirely Cathy, just call my original post a total
brain fade; I'd like to be more descriptive about my post, but the
Moderator would be a bit touchy I reckon.   Dunno what came over me to
be thinking so outside the square, when I've been with Legacy for s
long, and I should've taken a break and made a cuppa.  As it is, I'm red
faced enough, so I've gone off to serve some penance, and will print
out the new manual and sit down for a read.

Thank you though for one of your very familiar helpful posts Cathy.

Cheers
Dave Cripps

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Hobart, Tasmania


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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

[Ian Thomas]

I had assumed both database and media files were backed up. And wondered about 
retrieval and restore.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ronald Bernier
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 5:55 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

My understanding is the cloud backup is for the database only.  At present you 
can not backup the media files to the cloud.
Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Dale Carmack 
> wrote:
I just noticed (after my initial setup) that when the backup occurs the Family 
file and media files are backed up to my computer but only the family file is 
backed up to the cloud.  By the way I hope they add better cloud backup 
information in the Help system and also as a customization as I like to never 
figured out how to re-access it (“cloud” or “online” backup” are not in the 
help).  I finally tried the backup button on the ribbon and saw the check boxes 
but there is no check box for media to the cloud.  I figured I missed it in the 
setup so I clicked on manage account but nothing happens.

If I click on manage account and click login it just returns to the “backup 
dialog box screen”.  If I click on “register account” and then modify the URL 
to remove “register” then click login I get the following below the Submit 
button and nothing else happens:

Database Problem~~string(362) "SELECT 
DBTitle,Public,DefPicPath,DropboxPictureFolder,DropboxAccessToken,d.Active,NamelistToken,AllPersonsToken,Server_IP,DB_ID,Filename,dbPath,dbToken,OwnerID,ShowLDS,Writable,DefaultRin,Permissions,f.FamilyID,f.GlobalID
 FROM FamilyList f LEFT JOIN DatabaseList d ON f.FamilyID=d.FamilyID WHERE 
f.UserID=2014 AND d.Deleted+0=0 AND f.Active=1 ORDER BY f.FamilyID"

So either I can’t do it this way, or maybe there is an access problem.  Can you 
backup the media files to the cloud?

Thanks,
dale

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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Ian Thomas]

Legacy Mapping troubles me.
Though a big Microsoft fan, I do find that Google has better world coverage 
(Google Maps vs Bing Maps) and sometimes better accuracy. Both have some 
errors, in my experience (outside of my use of Legacy FT).
I can't blame either for not recognizing some of the places from centuries ago 
for which the present usage is irrelevant.
Also, omission of suburbs /  some locations in Samoa which I thought these 
USA-based organizations would cover well is not unexpected, realistically. They 
are small and numerous, with variable spelling.
Using the Legacy Mapping, I resort to researching the exact location of 
troublesome places (by internet, usually), then comparing a map of my preferred 
location with the Legacy map, and right-clicking to fix its location in the 
programme.
I find the digital method to enter the latitude/longitude in Legacy Mapping to 
be very awkward.
There are gazetteers that give accurately the lat/long of places, and it would 
be nice to be able to use those accurate positionings in a friendly way. I have 
some suggestions - perhaps best expressed directly to Millennium.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 4:30 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations


It varies. Sometimes Google is not spot on - search for a church, and it's 
somewhere in the area, but not the church - even using exact coordinates!



The same problem occurs sometimes with Bing.



Genuki is unparallelled for old maps of Britain. You can get the town and zero 
in on the castle ruins, church, etc., and get the coordinates. Those have 
always been correct when I search Google or Bing for those exact coordinates.





It is always wise to use at least two map searches to verify, AND, click on the 
exact location to see the coordinates. Then do a separate search for those 
exact coordinates. I have found many errors that way.




CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 
>
 on behalf of Cheryl Rothwell 
>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master place 
list earlier this year so I know they are correct.

I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search for 
the place in Google they come up correctly.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner 
> wrote:
Cheryl
Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time you've 
tried Map My Family?

In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto 
map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.

In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen - 
with "Geo-Code" written on it.
Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the current 
location again (meaning the highlighted location)
That may give you a better mapping.
Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the map to 
reset the pin.

Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I don't 
know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic locations 
where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job of my 
Australian and UK locations.

Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.

Cathy


Cheryl Rothwell wrote:


In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
to eastern Macon County, Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
name, state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Ed Ladendorf]

Another non facebook user. Great thread!! Thank you.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
> Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
> see them too.
>
>
> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature
>
> Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
> add data to someone)
>
> Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
> already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
> page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
> Tree page. I LOVE THIS!
>
> Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
> memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
> If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
> FaG memorial page.
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
> Legacy Family Tree
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
> service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

[Ronald Bernier]

My understanding is the cloud backup is for the database only.  At present you 
can not backup the media files to the cloud.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Dale Carmack 
> wrote:

I just noticed (after my initial setup) that when the backup occurs the Family 
file and media files are backed up to my computer but only the family file is 
backed up to the cloud.  By the way I hope they add better cloud backup 
information in the Help system and also as a customization as I like to never 
figured out how to re-access it (“cloud” or “online” backup” are not in the 
help).  I finally tried the backup button on the ribbon and saw the check boxes 
but there is no check box for media to the cloud.  I figured I missed it in the 
setup so I clicked on manage account but nothing happens.

If I click on manage account and click login it just returns to the “backup 
dialog box screen”.  If I click on “register account” and then modify the URL 
to remove “register” then click login I get the following below the Submit 
button and nothing else happens:

Database Problem~~string(362) "SELECT 
DBTitle,Public,DefPicPath,DropboxPictureFolder,DropboxAccessToken,d.Active,NamelistToken,AllPersonsToken,Server_IP,DB_ID,Filename,dbPath,dbToken,OwnerID,ShowLDS,Writable,DefaultRin,Permissions,f.FamilyID,f.GlobalID
 FROM FamilyList f LEFT JOIN DatabaseList d ON f.FamilyID=d.FamilyID WHERE 
f.UserID=2014 AND d.Deleted+0=0 AND f.Active=1 ORDER BY f.FamilyID"

So either I can’t do it this way, or maybe there is an access problem.  Can you 
backup the media files to the cloud?

Thanks,
dale

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[LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

[Dale Carmack]

I just noticed (after my initial setup) that when the backup occurs the Family 
file and media files are backed up to my computer but only the family file is 
backed up to the cloud.  By the way I hope they add better cloud backup 
information in the Help system and also as a customization as I like to never 
figured out how to re-access it (“cloud” or “online” backup” are not in the 
help).  I finally tried the backup button on the ribbon and saw the check boxes 
but there is no check box for media to the cloud.  I figured I missed it in the 
setup so I clicked on manage account but nothing happens.  

 

If I click on manage account and click login it just returns to the “backup 
dialog box screen”.  If I click on “register account” and then modify the URL 
to remove “register” then click login I get the following below the Submit 
button and nothing else happens:

 

Database Problem~~string(362) "SELECT 
DBTitle,Public,DefPicPath,DropboxPictureFolder,DropboxAccessToken,d.Active,NamelistToken,AllPersonsToken,Server_IP,DB_ID,Filename,dbPath,dbToken,OwnerID,ShowLDS,Writable,DefaultRin,Permissions,f.FamilyID,f.GlobalID
 FROM FamilyList f LEFT JOIN DatabaseList d ON f.FamilyID=d.FamilyID WHERE 
f.UserID=2014 AND d.Deleted+0=0 AND f.Active=1 ORDER BY f.FamilyID"

 

So either I can’t do it this way, or maybe there is an access problem.  Can you 
backup the media files to the cloud?

 

Thanks,

dale

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I'm not looking for these places. I know where they are.  ;) That's how I
know how wrong the maps are.

Google is not perfect but, in my searches, it has been about spot on every
time. The mapping feature of Legacy is not critical to me but if it was I
would be unhappy.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:30 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> It varies. Sometimes Google is not spot on - search for a church, and it's
> somewhere in the area, but not the church - even using exact coordinates!
>
>
> The same problem occurs sometimes with Bing.
>
>
> Genuki is unparallelled for old maps of Britain. You can get the town and
> zero in on the castle ruins, church, etc., and get the coordinates. Those
> have *always* been correct when I search Google or Bing for those exact
> coordinates.
>
>
>
> It is always wise to use at least two map searches to verify, AND, click
> on the exact location to see the coordinates. Then do a separate search for
> those exact coordinates. I have found many errors that way.
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Cheryl Rothwell 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 5:38 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations
>
> I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master
> place list earlier this year so I know they are correct.
>
> I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search
> for the place in Google they come up correctly.
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
>> Cheryl
>> Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time
>> you've tried Map My Family?
>>
>> In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto
>> map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.
>>
>> In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen
>> - with "Geo-Code" written on it.
>> Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the
>> current location again (meaning the highlighted location)
>> That may give you a better mapping.
>> Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the
>> map to reset the pin.
>>
>> Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I
>> don't know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic
>> locations where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job
>> of my Australian and UK locations.
>>
>> Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>>
>>
>> In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.
>>
>> As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
>> County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
>> Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
>> Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
>> to eastern Macon County, Illinois.
>>
>> Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
>> name, state, USA.
>>
>> What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?
>>
>> Cheryl Rothwell
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[CE WOOD]

It varies. Sometimes Google is not spot on - search for a church, and it's 
somewhere in the area, but not the church - even using exact coordinates!


The same problem occurs sometimes with Bing.


Genuki is unparallelled for old maps of Britain. You can get the town and zero 
in on the castle ruins, church, etc., and get the coordinates. Those have 
always been correct when I search Google or Bing for those exact coordinates.



It is always wise to use at least two map searches to verify, AND, click on the 
exact location to see the coordinates. Then do a separate search for those 
exact coordinates. I have found many errors that way.



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Cheryl Rothwell 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master place 
list earlier this year so I know they are correct.

I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search for 
the place in Google they come up correctly.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner 
> wrote:
Cheryl
Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time you've 
tried Map My Family?

In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto 
map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.

In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen - 
with "Geo-Code" written on it.
Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the current 
location again (meaning the highlighted location)
That may give you a better mapping.
Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the map to 
reset the pin.

Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I don't 
know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic locations 
where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job of my 
Australian and UK locations.

Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.

Cathy


Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
to eastern Macon County, Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
name, state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Oops, sorry.  You are right.  I will label them as such in the future :) 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

  www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a 
service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under 
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 1:18 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

 

Just one comment:

 

I suspect that there are currently more v8 users than there are v9 users. Is it 
possible that such “Tips of the Day” can specify if the tip is for v9 only or 
if it applies to both versions.

 

I can’t help but think of the many users with v8 that are looking all over 
their screen for the FAG label or wonder why their FSIS Label doesn’t work.

 

Or did I not get the memo that this forum was now ONLY for v9?

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

 

Yes, Thank you for sure. I love short one at a time direction. matches my 
attention span :-)

Ian

 

 

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Howard Cady  > wrote:

Michele,
Thanks for posting the "Tip of the Day"  I am one of the non FaceBook users of 
Legacy FT.  This tip makes me want to see your previous Tips.  I hope you will 
be able to do this and continue to cross post to the Legacy Users Group.


-Original Message- From: Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 7:40 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
www.legacyfamilytree.com  

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Brian Lightfoot]

Just one comment:

 

I suspect that there are currently more v8 users than there are v9 users. Is it 
possible that such “Tips of the Day” can specify if the tip is for v9 only or 
if it applies to both versions.

 

I can’t help but think of the many users with v8 that are looking all over 
their screen for the FAG label or wonder why their FSIS Label doesn’t work.

 

Or did I not get the memo that this forum was now ONLY for v9?

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 8:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

 

Yes, Thank you for sure. I love short one at a time direction. matches my 
attention span :-)

Ian

 

 

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Howard Cady  wrote:

Michele,
Thanks for posting the "Tip of the Day"  I am one of the non FaceBook users of 
Legacy FT.  This tip makes me want to see your previous Tips.  I hope you will 
be able to do this and continue to cross post to the Legacy Users Group.


-Original Message- From: Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 7:40 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.



 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Bob Austen]

Thanks Michele, this is great.  Please keep these tips coming to the LUG - I
don't use the FaceBook version.

Bob Austen

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 6:40 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Ian Macaulay]

Yes, Thank you for sure. I love short one at a time direction. matches my
attention span :-)

Ian


On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Howard Cady  wrote:

> Michele,
> Thanks for posting the "Tip of the Day"  I am one of the non FaceBook
> users of Legacy FT.  This tip makes me want to see your previous Tips.  I
> hope you will be able to do this and continue to cross post to the Legacy
> Users Group.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Michele/Support
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day
>
> I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
> Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
> see them too.
>
>
> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature
>
> Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
> add data to someone)
>
> Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
> already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
> page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
> Tree page. I LOVE THIS!
>
> Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
> memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
> If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
> FaG memorial page.
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
> Legacy Family Tree
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
> service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
> license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Howard Cady]

Michele,
Thanks for posting the "Tip of the Day"  I am one of the non FaceBook users 
of Legacy FT.  This tip makes me want to see your previous Tips.  I hope you 
will be able to do this and continue to cross post to the Legacy Users 
Group.



-Original Message- 
From: Michele/Support

Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 7:40 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.



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[LegacyUG] Dallas, Tx

[bdmitchell2]

Is there any grouo meetings in the Dallas, Tx area ither than the one in Plano, 
Tx. There meeting is at 130pm . Im hoping to find a morning meeting. Or simeone 
unteresting in teaming up to work with the Legacy program.
Thanks for your helpBetty Mitchell75253 areabdmitche...@tx.rr.com


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[LegacyUG] Legacy Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

I am going to start cross posting the tips that I post on the Legacy User
Group Facebook page so that those of you that are not on Facebook you will
see them too.


TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - Another Easter Egg feature

Open someone's Individual's Information screen (this is where you actually
add data to someone)

Click the FamilySearch ID LABEL. If the person does not have an FSID number
already in the field, you will get FamilySearch's record search results
page. If they do have an FSID entered you will go directly to their Family
Tree page. I LOVE THIS!

Now click the Find a Grave ID LABEL. If the person does not have a FaG
memorial number already entered, you will get the FaG search results page.
If the person does have a FaG memorial number entered, you will get their
FaG memorial page.



Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
www.legacyfamilytree.com   

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master
place list earlier this year so I know they are correct.

I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search
for the place in Google they come up correctly.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Cheryl
> Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time you've
> tried Map My Family?
>
> In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto
> map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.
>
> In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen
> - with "Geo-Code" written on it.
> Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the
> current location again (meaning the highlighted location)
> That may give you a better mapping.
> Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the map
> to reset the pin.
>
> Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I
> don't know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic
> locations where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job
> of my Australian and UK locations.
>
> Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>
>
> In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.
>
> As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
> County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
> Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
> Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
> to eastern Macon County, Illinois.
>
> Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
> name, state, USA.
>
> What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?
>
> Cheryl Rothwell
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Ian Thomas]

Cathy
I can guess at why Millennium doesn’t “publish” on-disk templates for 
SourceWriter: I think their rules-based code is within some password-protected 
mdb files (disguised as .dbm). or at least that is the way that I would code it.
Also, whether the above is right or wrong – if the formatting of sources is so 
divergent between times in history and jurisdictions (as for example, the 
dogs’-breakfast of even the online BDM databases in the 7 or so States of 
Australia, over the less than 200 years of record-keeping) it would be a big 
task for them to research and implement the rules for sources for additional to 
those in the USA.

(just my conjectures)

Thanks for the tip. I don’t want to accumulate sources stored in ways that make 
retrieval or maintenance a big chore, or inflexible.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 7:03 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

Unless Basic sources were rudimentary or really badly formatted and the Basic 
Master Source can't be edited into respectable format, then don't even consider 
changing Basic Sources to SourceWriter sources.
It's a slow tedious job which is only worth doing if the source isn't 
sufficiently informative and needs to be redone anyway - like some of my early 
sources from the 1990s.

Making your own guides to how you enter Basic Sources is a great idea.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the
side are AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very
peripheral USA, Canada, South Africa.

Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter
(though I thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my
‘basic’ source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *carogene
*Sent:* Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.

I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.

Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long
winded) for my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner >>
 wrote:

Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This
has bee n asked for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives
can be sourced using a Census template that has the relevant
fields for the Department code and series number in the Master
Source and a field for the piece number in the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA
citation style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to
break her principles of keeping a reference together. I haven't
seen the latest editions of her work to see if she's amended her
English Census models.

Cathy

Ian Thomas  >>
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that
covered the different methods of recording in various
countries at different times, but that would be a daunting
task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates
created by others for their specific purpose are
“transferrable”? That is, are they a separate named file on
the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where
others might download and then install into their Legacy
system on their computer?

If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community
resource could be created.

I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed,
from v8 (or before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer >>
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

  p;  Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in
Legacy that would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly
having a different Master Source for every church. 

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Cathy Pinner]

Unless Basic sources were rudimentary or really badly formatted and the 
Basic Master Source can't be edited into respectable format, then don't 
even consider changing Basic Sources to SourceWriter sources.
It's a slow tedious job which is only worth doing if the source isn't 
sufficiently informative and needs to be redone anyway - like some of my 
early sources from the 1990s.


Making your own guides to how you enter Basic Sources is a great idea.

Cathy

Ian Thomas wrote:


Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the
side are AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very
peripheral USA, Canada, South Africa.

Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter
(though I thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my
‘basic’ source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *carogene
*Sent:* Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.

I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.

Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long
winded) for my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner > wrote:

Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This
has been asked for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives
can be sourced using a Census template that has the relevant
fields for the Department code and series number in the Master
Source and a field for the piece number in the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA
citation style. In this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to
break her principles of keeping a reference together. I haven't
seen the latest editions of her work to see if she's amended her
English Census models.

Cathy

Ian Thomas >
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that
covered the different methods of recording in various
countries at different times, but that would be a daunting
task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates
created by others for their specific purpose are
“transferrable”? That is, are they a separate named file on
the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where
others might download and then install into their Legacy
system on their computer?

If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community
resource could be created.

I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed,
from v8 (or before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer >
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in
Legacy that would work for me. One of my concerns was possibly
having a different Master Source for every church. If I
understand your two examples correctly you have some Master
Sources for individual churches and some for a central
depository depending on where you sourced the information.

Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism
Master Sources using a central depository (SWHT/Parochial
Church Council/Findmypast), understanding that nothing works
for ever. I have overlooked marriage banns in the past because
I didn't know what to do with them. Now you have given me
direction.

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that
covered the different methods of recording in various
countries at different times, but that would be a daunting
task I'm sure.

Thanks again,

Barry Godbeer




On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner
> wrote:


Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The
records are recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in
Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books >
created at local level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) >
and then the format you've used. I've chosen to use the
Microfilm/fiche rather than online images as I've seem some at
the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to England and some
online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both
sources: eg: Images courtesy of South West Heritage Trust &
Parochial Church Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could
have instead chosen to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan
Archives, 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 default install directory naming structure

[Cathy Pinner]

David,

Are you talking about your data or the installation of the Program and 
the Settings file?


Legacy 8 installed by default to Program Files (x86)\Legacy8\
Legacy 9 installs by default to Program Files (x86)\Legacy9\ and removes 
the Legacy8 program folder.


You may have chosen to install Legacy 8 somewhere else but wherever it 
was installed, it used
...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\ folder for your settings and 
Legacy 9 uses this same folder.
If you move or rename any part of \Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\ it is 
simply recreated by Legacy using default settings the next time you open 
Legacy.


...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\ also has folders for your Data and 
your Media but you don't have to use them.
When you use another folder instead - like your C:\Legacy8\ folder then 
you should say that is where your data and/or your media is at Options - 
Customise 6.1 and 6.2
That way, especially with Media, Legacy will help you keep your media 
properly connected.


The good news is that if just your data and media are in your 
C:\Legacy8\ folder, you can rename it to \Legacy\ or \Legacy9\ and 
record that in 6.1 and 6.2. In addition, if that's where your data file 
is, you'll need to use the File - Open in Legacy to open your file the 
next time you open Legacy and Set Options - Customise 1.2 to open the 
file you want in the right folder (don't just see the filename and 
assume it's the one in the right folder).


Then you're set.

More information on finding Legacy files on your computer if you need it.
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00901

Cathy


David Cripps 
Sunday, 23 April 2017 1:01 PM
On 23/4/17 2:55 pm, Bob Austen wrote:

Hi David,



I made a copy to the Legacy 8 directory.  Legacy 9 uses the v8 file
and converts it to the new format.  I then renamed the legacy8 file
and was able to open it with Legacy 8.  However, I did not copy the
rest of the user files so Legacy 8 opened with some of the attributes
of v9. So, yes, Legacy 9 will install to the same directory (and no
warnings or options).



Ok, so it looks like I'm stuck with my current directory naming
structure of C:\Legacy8\ then ?  Something I'll just have to live with !




However, it begs the question, why would you want Legacy 8 after
upgrading to v9.  The look and ‘feel’ of v9 is the same as v8 so I
don’t see any reason to preserve v8.  I did it so I could go back to
v8 to assist others that had not upgraded. I don’t think that’s
necessary as v9 is basically the same with a few enhanced features
(and a couple of bug fixes!)



After I upgraded to v9 even 99%+ of my settings were the same and my
file even opened up to the last person viewed.



No need to look back!


Sorry Bob, maybe I didn't express myself properly in the original post;
I don't want to look back, I don't want to keep Legacy 8 at all&  I'm
happy to move with the times, it's my current directory naming structure
that concerns me.


Thanks
Dave Cripps in Hobart

Bob Austen 
Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:55 PM

Hi David,

I made a copy to the Legacy 8 directory.  Legacy 9 uses the v8 file 
and converts it to the new format.  I then renamed the legacy8 file 
and was able to open it with Legacy 8.  However, I did not copy the 
rest of the user files so Legacy 8 opened with some of the attributes 
of v9. So, yes, Legacy 9 will install to the same directory (and no 
warnings or options).


However, it begs the question, why would you want Legacy 8 after 
upgrading to v9.  The look and ‘feel’ of v9 is the same as v8 so I 
don’t see any reason to preserve v8.  I did it so I could go back to 
v8 to assist others that had not upgraded. I don’t think that’s 
necessary as v9 is basically the same with a few enhanced features 
(and a couple of bug fixes!)


After I upgraded to v9 even 99%+ of my settings were the same and my 
file even opened up to the last person viewed.


No need to look back!

Bob Austen

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *David 
Cripps

*Sent:* Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:36 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy 9 default install directory naming structure

Hi Listers,

I've just successfully purchased Legacy 9 + the pdf manual & 
downloaded both.


Before doing the install I did a Check/Repair, found all was well, 
then did a check of media paths, and found to my surprise a couple of 
errors, which I've since fixed and double checked.


Yes I've done multiple backups to play it safe, but I haven't as yet 
installed Legacy 9 !


You see when I view my old Legacy8 directory structure in Windows 7, 
it all hangs off C:\Legacy8 and of course all the subdirectories flow 
downwards from this.  My question is this: When I do the install, will 
Legacy 9 install into this same directory ?


What would my best course of action be please ?  Should I change the 
directory name, or just curse my own 

Re: [LegacyUG] V9 Error Code 3045

[Cathy Pinner]

David,
There is a problem with the Legacy Cloud (I think there still is) so 
untick that if it is ticked.


If you still get this error, contacting support is your best option 
after checking that you don't have Legacy FamilySearch or Legacy 
Charting open or even Legacy 7.5 though that is likely a different file 
with the same name?


You may still be negotiating the change in Default locations for data 
and media if you were using the Legacy 7.5 defaults.
It was the changes to the defaults that allows 7.5 and 8 or 9 to be 
installed at the same time. Legacy 9 overwrites Legacy 8.
(Legacy 7 overwrote Legacy 6 unless computer literate people changed the 
defaults.)


Cathy

David Dearth wrote:


I have just recently upgraded to Legacy V9 from V7.5. So far I am
loving the program. However, I am getting error 3045 every time I
exit. The exact wording is "Backup of Family File has failed. Error
3045: Could not use \Dearth.fdb'; file already in use. Would you
like to TRY IT AGAIN?". Answering yes repeatedly results in the same
message. It is set to backup everytime I exit. Of course it is still
in use, I am looking at the Legacy screen when it is backing up (or
trying to back up).

Also, uploading to the Legacy Cloud also fails. It seems to backup ok,
then shows 'disconnected' then a failure message.

I am running on Windows 7 Home Premium, 32-bit.

Perhaps I am missing something. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Dave Dearth




David Dearth 
Sunday, 23 April 2017 4:18 AM
I have just recently upgraded to Legacy V9 from V7.5.  So far I am 
loving the program.  However, I am getting error 3045 every time I 
exit.  The exact wording is "Backup of Family File has failed.  Error 
3045: Could not use \Dearth.fdb'; file already in use.  Would you 
like to TRY IT AGAIN?".  Answering yes repeatedly results in the same 
message.  It is set to backup everytime I exit.  Of course it is still 
in use, I am looking at the Legacy screen when it is backing up (or 
trying to back up).


Also, uploading to the Legacy Cloud also fails.  It seems to backup 
ok, then shows 'disconnected' then a failure message.


I am running on Windows 7 Home Premium, 32-bit.

Perhaps I am missing something.  Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Dave Dearth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

[Ian Thomas]

Carolyn, that sounds interesting. My ancestors and connections to the side are 
AU, NZ, England Wales Scotland Ireland. There are very peripheral USA, Canada, 
South Africa.
Currently, my use of sources is primitive. I’m not using SourceWriter (though I 
thought I should be).

It raises the question to me how difficult it will be to convert my ‘basic’ 
source entries to SourceWriter. I will check out Help.


Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of carogene
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 3:35 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for UK Baptisms

But you can create your own source templates using the basic system.
I have a set that works well for New Zealand, Australian, UK records.
Developed as the source writer system is way to US centric (long winded)  for 
my records.

Carolyn

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cathy Pinner 
> wrote:
Ian,
It's not possible to make your own SourceWriter templates. This has been asked 
for, but for some reason rejected.

Another tip for UK records. Anything at the The National Archives can be 
sourced using a Census template that has the relevant fields for the Department 
code and series number in the Master Source and a field for the piece number in 
the Source Detail.
I add folio and page to the piece box as well to follow TNA citation style. In 
this detail Elizabeth Shown Mills seems to break her principles of keeping a 
reference together. I haven't seen the latest editions of her work to see if 
she's amended her English Census models.

Cathy
Ian Thomas >
Monday, 24 April 2017 7:07 AM

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered the 
different methods of recording in various countries at different times, but 
that would be a daunting task I'm sure.

Or – does anyone know whether Legacy’s SourceWriter Templates created by others 
for their specific purpose are “transferrable”? That is, are they a separate 
named file on the creator’s disk, which could be uploaded to a site where 
others might download and then install into their Legacy system on their 
computer?

If that is a possibility, in effect, a Legacy community resource could be 
created.

I’m not sure whether the format of SourceWriter has changed, from v8 (or 
before?) to v9 of Legacy.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

Barry Godbeer >
Monday, 24 April 2017 2:12 AM
Cathy,

Thank you for your quick and helpful reply.

You seem to have found a way to record non US sources in Legacy that would work 
for me. One of my concerns was possibly having a different Master Source for 
every church. If I understand your two examples correctly you have some Master 
Sources for individual churches and some for a central depository depending on 
where you sourced the information.

Rather than have a mix I think I will start off my baptism Master Sources using 
a central depository (SWHT/Parochial Church Council/Findmypast), understanding 
that nothing works for ever. I have overlooked marriage banns in the past 
because I didn't know what to do with them. Now you have given me direction.

Wouldn't it be great if Millenia provided add on packages that covered the 
different methods of recording in various countries at different times, but 
that would be a daunting task I'm sure.

Thanks again,

Barry Godbeer




On Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:56 PM, Cathy Pinner 
> wrote:


Barry,

Church Records include Baptisms, Burials and Marriages. The records are 
recorded in Church Registers or "record books" in Legacy speak.
So you're looking for Church records > Church record books > created at local 
level (parish, congregation, meeting, etc) > and then the format you've used. 
I've chosen to use the Microfilm/fiche rather than online images as I've seem 
some at the Archives on microfilm in a rare visit to England and some online.
I use the Film ID in the Master Source to acknowledge both sources: eg: Images 
courtesy of South West Heritage Trust & Parochial Church Council & FindMyPast
I actually make a Master Source for each church but I could have instead chosen 
to make a Master Source for each Archive.
In my case: Dorset History Centre, the London Metropolitan Archives, etc.
I learn where the registers actually are arc hived.

So one Master Source reads: St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England); Images 
courtesy of South West Heritage Trust and Parochial Church Council & 
FindMyPast, Devon Heritage Centre, Exeter.
and a source citation:
St Margaret (Topsham, Devon, England), "Marriages 1417A/PR/1/15 1837-1881," 
Page 1, No 1 1837 marriage of William Harris & Rebecca Mawditt; Images courtesy 
of South West Heritage Trust and 

Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cathy Pinner]

Cheryl
Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time 
you've tried Map My Family?


In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto 
map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.


In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the 
screen - with "Geo-Code" written on it.
Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the 
current location again (meaning the highlighted location)

That may give you a better mapping.
Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the 
map to reset the pin.


Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but 
I don't know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for 
historic locations where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a 
pretty good job of my Australian and UK locations.


Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.

Cathy

Cheryl Rothwell wrote:


In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
Cleveland toward the New York line. Logan County, Illinois, has moved
to eastern Macon County, Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
name, state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell
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