Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Kathy, Graham Mike,I know how to do all of what you've suggested, but in working with DNA you have y-DNA which is only the male line, so it would be easy to do what you're speaking of, but autosomal DNA picks up all of your lines to many lines back and so when I have a confirmed match and that's not often or when I have a possible, which is very very often, I was wanting something I could fill in on the Individual information screen, just as Cause of Death where I can go to the Notes, choose Medical, type in just as I would for Cause of Death. I could choose the Tag option, but there's not enough, you have at the least 32 lines of ancestors, it doubles each time it goes up a generation. [Also I manage 4 different people's kits] I could use Research notes or General notes, but I have 3 Legacy family files that include over 14,000 individuals, so it would take more time than I care to think about to go back and redo all those, because some I have notes on and some I have Research Notes. I thank ALL of you for your help, but I just see no answer for me, I realize that when someone ask a question, you have no idea of their knowledge, but God only knows how many hours, I spend typing all this information into Legacy, and I haven't ask a question in a LONG time, in fact, I had dropped my name from the forum, I miss having Ron to correspond to, and I'm sure you Kathy may be a great advisor, but I hope with all this you can see why I was offended. Until you get into DNA tests results and see maybe 1400 + matches on a report and try to work with 3 DNA company test results, you can have no idea as to the work. As it's been said on the DNA forum, It's not for the weary at heart. Basically, Legacy is great for adding genealogy records, but I was trying to get it to do something it's not designed to do, and for that I apologize. But, for those that are familiar with Ron Ferguson, he, too was one to stretch Legacy to do what he wanted it to do, and he help so many of us for years. Of course, he was much smarter and had been doing this years before I came on the scene about 10 years ago. Thanks,Syble On Monday, December 1, 2014 2:13 AM, Graham Lambert gra...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Kathy, you are far and away one the most helpful people on this forum...but you have just risen to a much higher level in my estimation...considering how many of us (probably hundreds) that are out there biting our tongues right now. Graham On 1/12/2014 1:36 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote: Hi Syble, Risking answering you again. If you make an event for DNA match using the fields as you like, then you can choose to show that Event on Family View. I don't have any DNA data but I can imagine I'd use the Description field to say Matched to X (line). Will that work for you? Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: All I want on the screen is DNA match, I never once said I wanted any details, I make an Event for that. This is what I said I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it on the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. Thanks, Syble On Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:40 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:    They have never lined up in the way you seem to think they should.    The Individual Screen is an input form and has to have all the fields    where you can enter data, it is not customizable. The Family    screen is a    View of the data which means it is a display of selected data and    can be    customized, within limits, to the user's preference. The default    fields    for the Family view include the 4 vital events of birth, Chr/Bapt,    Death    and Burial and a view of the Death Cause from the Medical Notes. The    data on those lines can be changed by the user as part of the view    cust omization. The Individual input screen has those four vital events    plus other data fields such as never married and had no children check    box, Events list box and buttons to take you to other inputs.    DNA test result entries are too extensive to display and cannot be    added    to the Family view since they consist of multiple elements and values.    There is only room on the Family View for one line and values    which can    fit on a single line such as date/place of an event.    Brian    Customer Support    Millennia Corporation    br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com    http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   nbs p; On 29/11/2014 2:48 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:    I asked for help, not judgment of my genealogy research, yes, I    have
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Basically, say if I have a match, 2nd cousin once removed, the common ancestor is a Great uncle his wife, this person matches on more than one chromosome number and segments, we do Not know as of yet which is the match, is it the uncle or his wife, someone married cousins way back. So this is a person I don't know, maybe someone e-mails me months from now on a particular line or maybe I'm scrolling through Legacy name list and open that person's file (which in my setup is the Family Page), I'd like have something on that screen about the DNA match, maybe DNA -Smith/Brown just something noting that her/his line goes back to my common ancestor Smith/Brown. Obviously, to show on that screen, it's going to be something I have entered from the Individual's information screen. I'm not wanting Legacy to keep tract of my DNA records, as I said in a previous e-mail, I use One-Note for that and I've been very pleased with it), (others use EverNote). I do add a DNA Event on some in Legacy, but I make those Private, so I've just decided One-Note is best for that. Yes, sometimes our needs/wants change and I know that Legacy can't change with everyone's wants. Thanks for at least responding.Syble On Monday, December 1, 2014 9:19 AM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: !--#yiv0268467165 _filtered #yiv0268467165 {font-family:Cambria Math;panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0268467165 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv0268467165 #yiv0268467165 p.yiv0268467165MsoNormal, #yiv0268467165 li.yiv0268467165MsoNormal, #yiv0268467165 div.yiv0268467165MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv0268467165 a:link, #yiv0268467165 span.yiv0268467165MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0268467165 a:visited, #yiv0268467165 span.yiv0268467165MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0268467165 span.yiv0268467165EmailStyle17 {font-family:Times New Roman, serif;color:#1F497D;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv0268467165 .yiv0268467165MsoChpDefault {font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv0268467165 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv0268467165 div.yiv0268467165WordSection1 {}--Syble, I am still not understanding exactly what you want to be able to show in Legacy. I have my autosomal DNA on Ancestry, 23andMe and FTDNA and I also manage my husband’s, my mother’s and my uncle’s autosomal DNA. I have countless matches on all three websites for all of the different kits. I also have all of this uploaded to GEDMatch. This is A LOT of data and a lot of matches that you can’t possibly enter into Legacy. When you say “confirmed match” are you saying that you have a 2nd cousin match on one of the DNA sites that you can show is truly a 2nd cousin using documents? If that is the case there is no reason at all to do anything in Legacy. You already have the person in your file as a 2nd cousin (or can add them). Are you wanting something to show that DNA confirms what you already have in Legacy? Some sort of checkbox or something? For example, I have my uncle in my file already. Since I have his DNA he shows as a match to me on the DNA websites. Are you wanting some way to indicate that DNA supports the link that that you have already established? I am trying to narrow down what you are asking for so that I can figure out if it is possible to do what you are asking and if so, we can get it entered as a suggestion to the programmers. MicheleTechnical supportmich...@legacyfamilytree.comwww.legacyfamilytree.com From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:17 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options Kathy, Graham Mike,I know how to do all of what you've suggested, but in working with DNA you have y-DNA which is only the male line, so it would be easy to do what you're speaking of, but autosomal DNA picks up all of your lines to many lines back and so when I have a confirmed match and that's not often or when I have a possible, which is very very often, I was wanting something I could fill in on the Individual information screen, just as Cause of Death where I can go to the Notes, choose Medical, type in just as I would for Cause of Death. I could choose the Tag option, but there's not enough, you have at the least 32 lines of ancestors, it doubles each time it goes up a generation. [Also I manage 4 different people's kits] I could use Research notes or General notes, but I have 3 Legacy family files that include over 14,000 individuals, so it would take more time than I care to think about to go back and redo all those, because some I have notes on and some I have Research Notes. I thank ALL of you for your help, but I just see no answer for me, I realize that when someone ask a question
RE: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Syble, I don’t think that is anything that the programmers would be able to format because it is too complex and has too many variables. Chromosome mapping is very complex and to try and record which chromosome and which segments two people match on is just not doable. In this case it would be best to have a way to consistently document this on each person. I would create a DNA event and here is why. One big reason is you can attach an image file of the chromosome map to the event. I think this would be a great idea because you would have it at your fingertips without having to access the website every time and have to input who you want to map it every time. If you do a chromosome map on two people you then would copy that event to both. If the map shows 5 people then you can copy it to all five (FTDNA allows up to 5). The chromosome map itself is color coded and there is a legend right on the page. You could have as many DNA events as you want for each person showing different comparisons. There is also plenty of room for notes. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com Basically, say if I have a match, 2nd cousin once removed, the common ancestor is a Great uncle his wife, this person matches on more than one chromosome number and segments, we do Not know as of yet which is the match, is it the uncle or his wife, someone married cousins way back. So this is a person I don't know, maybe someone e-mails me months from now on a particular line or maybe I'm scrolling through Legacy name list and open that person's file (which in my setup is the Family Page), I'd like have something on that screen about the DNA match, maybe DNA -Smith/Brown just something noting that her/his line goes back to my common ancestor Smith/Brown. Obviously, to show on that screen, it's going to be something I have entered from the Individual's information screen. I'm not wanting Legacy to keep tract of my DNA records, as I said in a previous e-mail, I use One-Note for that and I've been very pleased with it), (others use EverNote). I do add a DNA Event on some in Legacy, but I make those Private, so I've just decided One-Note is best for that. Yes, sometimes our needs/wants change and I know that Legacy can't change with everyone's wants. Thanks for at least responding.Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Basically what you said in your 2nd paragraph is what I do in One note. I was not interested in adding extensive info on just a couple of surnames-DNASyble On Monday, December 1, 2014 11:50 AM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Syble, I don’t think that is anything that the programmers would be able to format because it is too complex and has too many variables. Chromosome mapping is very complex and to try and record which chromosome and which segments two people match on is just not doable. In this case it would be best to have a way to consistently document this on each person. I would create a DNA event and here is why. One big reason is you can attach an image file of the chromosome map to the event. I think this would be a great idea because you would have it at your fingertips without having to access the website every time and have to input who you want to map it every time. If you do a chromosome map on two people you then would copy that event to both. If the map shows 5 people then you can copy it to all five (FTDNA allows up to 5). The chromosome map itself is color coded and there is a legend right on the page. You could have as many DNA events as you want for each person showing different comparisons. There is also plenty of room for notes. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com Basically, say if I have a match, 2nd cousin once removed, the common ancestor is a Great uncle his wife, this person matches on more than one chromosome number and segments, we do Not know as of yet which is the match, is it the uncle or his wife, someone married cousins way back. So this is a person I don't know, maybe someone e-mails me months from now on a particular line or maybe I'm scrolling through Legacy name list and open that person's file (which in my setup is the Family Page), I'd like have something on that screen about the DNA match, maybe DNA -Smith/Brown just something noting that her/his line goes back to my common ancestor Smith/Brown. Obviously, to show on that screen, it's going to be something I have entered from the Individual's information screen. I'm not wanting Legacy to keep tract of my DNA records, as I said in a previous e-mail, I use One-Note for that and I've been very pleased with it), (others use EverNote). I do add a DNA Event on some in Legacy, but I make those Private, so I've just decided One-Note is best for that. Yes, sometimes our needs/wants change and I know that Legacy can't change with everyone's wants. Thanks for at least responding.Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
How do you download that color coded map? I don't see a way on the site. Do you use a web clipper? -Original Message- From: MikeFry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 12:32 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options On 2014/12/01 07:50 PM, Michele/Support wrote: I would create a DNA event and here is why. One big reason is you can attach an image file of the chromosome map to the event. I think this would be a great idea because you would have it at your fingertips without having to access the website every time and have to input who you want to map it every time. If you do a chromosome map on two people you then would copy that event to both. If the map shows 5 people then you can copy it to all five (FTDNA allows up to 5). The chromosome map itself is color coded and there is a legend right on the page. You could have as many DNA events as you want for each person showing different comparisons. There is also plenty of room for notes. And, wouldn't this be an ideal use for a Shared Event? To me, DNA has no real place in genealogy. As a tool for confirming or disproving paper records, yes, DNA has a place, but as the be-all and end-all of genealogy - no! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
You could certainly could do it as a shared event. I personally only use shared events for a select few things, marriages for one. I share with the minister, the county clerk and the witnesses. In my family the minister and the county clerk are usually relatives anyway :) I don't use it for census events and that is the one most people do use it for. I wouldn't use it in the DNA scenario but that is just me. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com And, wouldn't this be an ideal use for a Shared Event? To me, DNA has no real place in genealogy. As a tool for confirming or disproving paper records, yes, DNA has a place, but as the be-all and end-all of genealogy - no! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Evernote Webclipper is what I use but you can also screenshot it. The only way you can download it directly is to a .csv file which will lose the cool graphics. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com -Original Message- From: Nancy Paget [mailto:wheat...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 2:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options How do you download that color coded map? I don't see a way on the site. Do you use a web clipper? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Thanks. I love the cool graphics. Sent from my iPad On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Evernote Webclipper is what I use but you can also screenshot it. The only way you can download it directly is to a .csv file which will lose the cool graphics. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com -Original Message- From: Nancy Paget [mailto:wheat...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 2:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options How do you download that color coded map? I don't see a way on the site. Do you use a web clipper? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
All I want on the screen is DNA match, I never once said I wanted any details, I make an Event for that. This is what I said I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it on the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. Thanks,Syble On Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:40 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: They have never lined up in the way you seem to think they should. The Individual Screen is an input form and has to have all the fields where you can enter data, it is not customizable. The Family screen is a View of the data which means it is a display of selected data and can be customized, within limits, to the user's preference. The default fields for the Family view include the 4 vital events of birth, Chr/Bapt, Death and Burial and a view of the Death Cause from the Medical Notes. The data on those lines can be changed by the user as part of the view customization. The Individual input screen has those four vital events plus other data fields such as never married and had no children check box, Events list box and buttons to take you to other inputs. DNA test result entries are too extensive to display and cannot be added to the Family view since they consist of multiple elements and values. There is only room on the Family View for one line and values which can fit on a single line such as date/place of an event. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 29/11/2014 2:48 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote: I asked for help, not judgment of my genealogy research, yes, I have numerous christening records, but prefer to use it as an Event, not on the screen. Excuse me for being different. Personally I was not even going to use the Cause of Death for that, I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it oh the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. I've been using Legacy since version 5 and have upgraded each upgrade, so I do have a little knowledge about Legacy, and many of us choose to use in a way that is best for our needs and have no intention of writing a book. I well know that you don't input into the Family View, but into the Individual View, but they are SUPPOSE to line up with each other and mine don'tSyble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Hi Syble, Risking answering you again. If you make an event for DNA match using the fields as you like, then you can choose to show that Event on Family View. I don't have any DNA data but I can imagine I'd use the Description field to say Matched to X (line). Will that work for you? Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: All I want on the screen is DNA match, I never once said I wanted any details, I make an Event for that. This is what I said I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it on the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. Thanks, Syble On Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:40 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: They have never lined up in the way you seem to think they should. The Individual Screen is an input form and has to have all the fields where you can enter data, it is not customizable. The Family screen is a View of the data which means it is a display of selected data and can be customized, within limits, to the user's preference. The default fields for the Family view include the 4 vital events of birth, Chr/Bapt, Death and Burial and a view of the Death Cause from the Medical Notes. The data on those lines can be changed by the user as part of the view customization. The Individual input screen has those four vital events plus other data fields such as never married and had no children check box, Events list box and buttons to take you to other inputs. DNA test result entries are too extensive to display and cannot be added to the Family view since they consist of multiple elements and values. There is only room on the Family View for one line and values which can fit on a single line such as date/place of an event. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ On 29/11/2014 2:48 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote: I asked for help, not judgment of my genealogy research, yes, I have numerous christening records, but prefer to use it as an Event, not on the screen. Excuse me for being different. Personally I was not even going to use the Cause of Death for that, I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it oh the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. I've been using Legacy since version 5 and have upgraded each upgrade, so I do have a little knowledge about Legacy, and many of us choose to use in a way that is best for our needs and have no intention of writing a book. I well know that you don't input into the Family View, but into the Individual View, but they are SUPPOSE to line up with each other and mine don'tSyble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe:
RE: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Syble, I am curious. What exactly would you like to see on the Individual’s Information screen and Family View DNA wise? yDNA and mtDNA value sets are much too long to try and display there. Are you wanting to see the haplogroup? If you are wanting the haplogroup you could easily enter it in the User ID field on the Individual’s Information screen and then on the Family View change the labels so that the User ID field is visible there. Michele Technical Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:57 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options All I want on the screen is DNA match, I never once said I wanted any details, I make an Event for that.This is what I said I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it on the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. Thanks, Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
On 2014/12/01 03:56 AM, Syble Glasscock wrote: All I want on the screen is DNA match, I never once said I wanted any details, I make an Event for that.This is what I said I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it on the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. Then you haven't followed anything that's been said here about being able to customise the fields that appear on the Family View. Right-click the any of the labels (or left-click, both work) and see the Customise Family View window. Now, select the least-useful Field Name and click on the small button with three dots on it: you'll get a list of field names to display. Select the Event... entry. This is mandatory since the data you want to display is help in an Event record. You should now see the Master Event Definition List. Pick your event and you're back to the Customise window. Adjust the Display name and Short name to personal taste and close the window. Viola! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Syble, Sorry, as I said, you cannot change the input fields on the Individual Screen. If you don't want Christening, I gather you are not very far back in your research or are in the lucky position that there is actual birth information available very early in your areas of research. In my research from early nineteenth century back I only have christening and burial information. To repeat. The fields on the individual input screen are fixed. Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: Yes, I know that you rt click and the Customize Family View Information pops up and I know how to change, my Field Names are: Birth Date/Place Age at Death Death Date/Place Burial Date/Place Cause of Death - [Name to Display = DthCau] , Then I close that pop-up window and the Individual's page that I'd been looking at in Family View, I open his individual page and now my options to fill in are: Born Chr...I don't want this , I want Cause of Death or Display name= DthCau Died... Buried I have the age of death on the Individual screen to the right, which is where it's been since version 5 if I remember correctly. I have been able in the past to have the DthCau (Cause of death), so my question is still what happen to it and how to get it back, obviously you can't type in from the Family View, so I need that area to be able to type in on the Individual's page. Thanks, Syble On Friday, November 28, 2014 8:38 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Syble, You have the choice of what to show on the Family View. Right click on one of the labels and then customise. The default is Birth, Chr, Death, Bur and DthCau so if you have Age, you have modified it at some point. I usually change the DthCau to one of the Events as I have few Causes of Death in my database. To change to an Event is a two step process - first when customising the labels choose Event and then the specific Event you want to show. You can choose to save sets of labels so it's easy to change from one set to another when working on different areas of your database. If you are wondering where to input the Cause of Death, that's on the Medical Notes - one of the tabs when you click the Notes icon. The input options on the Individual screen are fixed. Most other items are added through the Events/Facts section. Hope that helps, Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: // The Family View page is showing the 5 information options as: Born, Age, Died, Bur, DthCau then when I go to the same person's Individual Information page the options to fill in are: Born, Chr, Died, Buried, why and how to do fix it. Thanks, Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
I asked for help, not judgment of my genealogy research, yes, I have numerous christening records, but prefer to use it as an Event, not on the screen. Excuse me for being different. Personally I was not even going to use the Cause of Death for that, I wanted a quick reference for DNA matches on the Family Screen, so I was just going to use that because I'm not impressed with Legacy's DNA record, I keep all the DNA correspondence/information, in One Note, but it would be nice to have it oh the Family Screen of each particular person, obviously it's my database. I've been using Legacy since version 5 and have upgraded each upgrade, so I do have a little knowledge about Legacy, and many of us choose to use in a way that is best for our needs and have no intention of writing a book. I well know that you don't input into the Family View, but into the Individual View, but they are SUPPOSE to line up with each other and mine don'tSyble On Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:18 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Syble, Sorry, as I said, you cannot change the input fields on the Individual Screen. If you don't want Christening, I gather you are not very far back in your research or are in the lucky position that there is actual birth information available very early in your areas of research. In my research from early nineteenth century back I only have christening and burial information. To repeat. The fields on the individual input screen are fixed. Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: Yes, I know that you rt click and the Customize Family View Information pops up and I know how to change, my Field Names are: Birth Date/Place Age at Death Death Date/Place Burial Date/Place Cause of Death - [Name to Display = DthCau] , Then I close that pop-up window and the Individual's page that I'd been looking at in Family View, I open his individual page and now my options to fill in are: Born Chr...I don't want this , I want Cause of Death or Display name= DthCau Died... Buried I have the age of death on the Individual screen to the right, which is where it's been since version 5 if I remember correctly. I have been able in the past to have the DthCau (Cause of death), so my question is still what happen to it and how to get it back, obviously you can't type in from the Family View, so I need that area to be able to type in on the Individual's page. Thanks, Syble On Friday, November 28, 2014 8:38 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Syble, You have the choice of what to show on the Family View. Right click on one of the labels and then customise. The default is Birth, Chr, Death, Bur and DthCau so if you have Age, you have modified it at some point. I usually change the DthCau to one of the Events as I have few Causes of Death in my database. To change to an Event is a two step process - first when customising the labels choose Event and then the specific Event you want to show. You can choose to save sets of labels so it's easy to change from one set to another when working on different areas of your database. If you are wondering where to input the Cause of Death, that's on the Medical Notes - one of the tabs when you click the Notes icon. The input options on the Individual screen are fixed. Most other items are added through the Events/Facts section. nbsp; Hope that helps, Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: // The Family View page is showing the 5 information options as: Born, Age, Died, Bur, DthCau then when I go to the same person's Individual Information page the options to fill in are: Born, Chr, Died, Buried, why and how to do fix it. Thanks, Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Hi Syble, You have the choice of what to show on the Family View. Right click on one of the labels and then customise. The default is Birth, Chr, Death, Bur and DthCau so if you have Age, you have modified it at some point. I usually change the DthCau to one of the Events as I have few Causes of Death in my database. To change to an Event is a two step process - first when customising the labels choose Event and then the specific Event you want to show. You can choose to save sets of labels so it's easy to change from one set to another when working on different areas of your database. If you are wondering where to input the Cause of Death, that's on the Medical Notes - one of the tabs when you click the Notes icon. The input options on the Individual screen are fixed. Most other items are added through the Events/Facts section. Hope that helps, Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: // The Family View page is showing the 5 information options as: Born, Age, Died, Bur, DthCau then when I go to the same person's Individual Information page the options to fill in are: Born, Chr, Died, Buried, why and how to do fix it. Thanks, Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Hi Syble, The Family View is just that - a view of certain fields. When you go to the Individual Information page that allows you to update the key fields that belong in that area. The Cause of Death [I presume that is what you mean by DthCauthen ?] is added in the Notes screen - there are three tabs - General; Research; Medical - it's the Medical Tab where you enter Cause of Death. Hope that helps ... Susie Z -Original Message- From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2014 12:40 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options The Family View page is showing the 5 information options as: Born, Age, Died, Bur, DthCauthen when I go to the same person's Individual Information page the options to fill in are: Born, Chr, Died, Buried, why and how to do fix it.Thanks,Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options
Yes, I know that you rt click and the Customize Family View Information pops up and I know how to change, my Field Names are: Birth Date/PlaceAge at DeathDeath Date/PlaceBurial Date/PlaceCause of Death - [Name to Display = DthCau] , Then I close that pop-up window and the Individual's page that I'd been looking at in Family View, I open his individual page and now my options to fill in are:BornChr...I don't want this , I want Cause of Death or Display name= DthCauDied...BuriedI have the age of death on the Individual screen to the right, which is where it's been since version 5 if I remember correctly. I have been able in the past to have the DthCau (Cause of death), so my question is still what happen to it and how to get it back, obviously you can't type in from the Family View, so I need that area to be able to type in on the Individual's page.Thanks,Syble On Friday, November 28, 2014 8:38 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Syble, You have the choice of what to show on the Family View. Right click on one of the labels and then customise. The default is Birth, Chr, Death, Bur and DthCau so if you have Age, you have modified it at some point. I usually change the DthCau to one of the Events as I have few Causes of Death in my database. To change to an Event is a two step process - first when customising the labels choose Event and then the specific Event you want to show. You can choose to save sets of labels so it's easy to change from one set to another when working on different areas of your database. If you are wondering where to input the Cause of Death, that's on the Medical Notes - one of the tabs when you click the Notes icon. The input options on the Individual screen are fixed. Most other items are added through the Events/Facts section. Hopethat helps, Cathy Syble Glasscock wrote: // The Family View page is showing the 5 information options as: Born, Age, Died, Bur, DthCau then when I go to the same person's Individual Information page the options to fill in are: Born, Chr, Died, Buried, why and how to do fix it. Thanks, Syble Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp