Re: One-page PDF cut off after a certain height?
Hello Jean, On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:54 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: (Lots of helpful stuff) > HTH > Jean > Yes, that was exactly what was wrong, thanks! Christ van Willegen
One-page PDF cut off after a certain height?
Hi,
I run into a problem when I create a (very high) single-page PDF file from
a Lilypond score. 'After a certain time', the rest of the page is rendered
in white.
In my use case, I wanted to make a large system staff, and white-on-black
music, because of readability-reasons. Specifically: Puttin this on a
tablet, and using one page for continuous scrolling to make the music less
'jumpy' (even staff spacing, not constrained to page height).
Can anyone shed a light on what goes wrong here? I've attached my files for
reference.
...and I _think_ I saw a better way to create black-on-white music, but I
haven't been able to find it.
Christ van Willegen
color.ily
Description: Binary data
base.ily
Description: Binary data
\version "2.25.1"
\include "base.ily"
\header {
title = \markup { \with-color #white { "Grease Medley" } }
arranger = \markup { \with-color #white { "Marieke Jacobse" } }
poet = \markup { \with-color #white { "" } }
% Standaard LilyPond-tagline verwijderen
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Voice
\consists "Melody_engraver"
}
}
global = {
\black
\override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
}
globalWeGo = {
\global
\key bes \major
\time 4/4
}
globalSummer = {
\global
\key d \major
\time 4/4
}
globalGreased = {
\global
\key bes \major
\time 4/4
}
globalWeGoTwo = {
\global
\key bes \major
\time 4/4
}
sopranoVoiceWeGo = \relative c' {
\globalWeGo
\dynamicUp
% Muziek volgt hier.
\compressEmptyMeasures
r4 d f g |
a4. g4 r8 g4 |
es8 es es es es es4 es8 |
f8 f8 f g4 g8 f4 |
r4 d8 f4 f8 g4 |
a4. g4 r8 g4 |
es8 es4 es8 es es es es |
f8 f f g4 g8 f4 |
r4 d' d r |
bes8 bes bes bes4 a8 g4 |
r4 c2 bes4 |
a4. bes c4 |
c4.( d8~d2~ |
d2) r4 f4 |
es1 |
f4\glissando \cadenzaOn \hideNotes a,4 \unHideNotes \cadenzaOff r4 r2 |
r4 d, f8 f g4 |
a4.( g4.) g4 |
es4 es8 es4 es8 es4 |
f8 f4 f8 g g f4 |
r4 d f g |
a4.( g) r4 |
\override NoteHead.style = #'cross
\times 2/3 {
bes8 bes bes } \times 2/3 { bes bes bes } \times 2/3 { bes bes bes } \times 2/3 { bes bes bes
}
\revert NoteHead.style
f8 f f g4 g8 f4 |
r4 d'4 d2 |
bes8 bes bes bes4 a8 g4 |
r4 c c bes |
a4.( bes4.) c4 |
c4.( bes4.) r4 |
\times 2/3 {
es2 es es
} |
es4.( d8 ~ d2 ~ |
d2) r2 |
r4 bes bes4. g8 |
bes8 c4 bes4. r4 |
r4 bes bes4. g8 |
bes8 c4 bes4. r4 |
r4 f f f |
g2. f4 |
g4( d f2~ |
f2) r2 |
R1 |
r2 r4 c' |
bes4 r r2 |
R1 |
c4 c r c |
d2 c4 r |
g'2 f4 r8 f8 |
g4 f d8( f) r4 |
r1
R1 |
R1 |
\override NoteHead.style = #'cross
bes,8 bes r bes bes bes bes bes |
bes bes bes bes4 bes8 bes4 |
R1 |
R1 |
bes4 bes8 bes4 bes8 bes4 |
bes8 bes4 bes8 bes bes bes4 |
\times 2/3 {
bes8 bes bes } \times 2/3 { bes bes bes } \times 2/3 { bes bes bes } \times 2/3 { bes bes bes |
}
bes8 bes bes bes4 bes8 bes4 |
bes8 bes bes bes bes bes bes bes |
bes8 bes bes bes4 bes8 bes4 |
r2 r4 r8 bes8 |
bes4 bes bes r
\revert NoteHead.style
\bar "|."
}
verseWeGo = \lyricmode {
% Liedtekst volgt hier.
We go to -- ge -- ther, like ra -- ma -- la -- ma -- la -- ma
ka ding -- it -- ty ding -- de -- dong.
Re -- mem -- bered for e -- ver, like shoo -- bob
shoo -- wa -- da -- wa -- da yip -- pi -- ty boom de boom.
Chang chang chang -- i -- ty chang shoo -- bob.
That's the way it should be!
Wha -- ooh yeah! ""
We're one of a kind, like dip -- da -- dip -- da -- dip
do -- wop a -- doo -- bee -- doo.
Our names are signed,
boo -- ge -- dy boo -- ge -- dy boo -- ge -- dy boo -- ge -- dy
shoo -- by doo -- wap shoo -- wap
Chang chang chang -- i -- ty chang shoo -- bob,
we'll al -- ways be like one. Wa -- wa -- wa -- wah!
When we go out at night, and stars are
shi -- ning bright. Up in the skies a -- bove.
Ah -- hah
Ba -- by, it might be lo -- ho -- ho -- ho -- ho -- hove!
Shoo -- bop sha -- wa -- da -- wa -- da yip -- i -- ty boom -- de -- boom
Dip -- da -- dip -- da -- dip doo -- wop a -- doo -- be -- doo.
Boo -- ge -- dy boo -- ge -- dy boo -- ge -- dy boo -- ge -- dy
shoo -- by doo -- wop shoo -- wap
Sha -- na -- na -- na -- na -- na -- na -- na yip -- pi -- ty dip -- de boom!
a -- wop bam boom!
}
soloVoiceSummer = \relative c' {
\globalSummer
\dynamicUp
\compressEmptyMeasures
R1 |
R1 |
r4 fis8^"Boy" d g e r4 |
a8 fis a a4( g4.) |
r4 fis8^"Girl" d g e r4 |
a8 fis a a4( g4.) |
r4 fis8^"Boy" d g2 |
\times 2/3 { a4 fis a } b8( ais b4) |
r4 gis8^"Girl" e a2 |
gis8 e gis a~a2 |
r4 d8 ^"Both" a b2 |
a8 b a fis4. b8( a) |
g8 r e b' a( b) a d, |
R1
R1 * 8 |
r4 fis8^"Boy" d g e r4 |
a8 fis a a4( g4.) |
r4 fis8^"Girl" d g e r4 |
a8 fis a a4( g4.) |
r4 fis8^"Boy" d g2 |
\times 2/3 { a4 fis a } b8( ais b4) |
r4 gis8^"Girl" e a2 |
gis8 e gis a~a2 |
r4 d
Re: Sublime Text and point and click
(Also to the list this time...) Op vr 5 mei 2023 16:18 schreef Andrew Bernard : Gvim works but is buggy. Would you mind filing a bug report then? Christ van Willegen
Re: explicit duration within \lyricsto
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:15 AM Aaron Hill wrote:
>
> (Re-adding mailing list for visibility...)
Whoops...
> On 2020-11-10 12:35 am, Christ van Willegen wrote:
> > Hi Aaron,
> >
> > Op ma 9 nov. 2020 23:39 schreef Aaron Hill:
> >
> > Above I show using a NullVoice so the notes do not appear though you
> > can
> >> still attach lyrics to them for timing.
> >>
> >> NOTE: As documented in the Notation Reference, changing
> >> associatedVoice
> >> must occur one syllable early to have the desired effect.
> >>
> >
> > Still, it would be very nice (TM) to be able to write "a lyric with
> > embedded4 lyrics8 lengths" within them.
> >
> > Perhaps a feature request?
>
> Technically, every lyric event has a duration whether or not you specify
> one. If unspecified, the default duration is used similar to how you
> can specify a note event with just a pitch alone. Something like the
> Lyric_combine_music_iterator would be unable to know when a duration is
> meant to be obeyed or not, as lyrics events with or without an explicit
> duration are indistinguishable.
>
> Perhaps a property could be introduced that temporarily disables
> automatic alignment, similar to how melismata can be ignored:
>
>
> \lyricsto melody {
>some words that fol -- low the mel -- o -- dy
>\set ignoreVoice = ##t
>these4 syl8 -- la8 -- bles4 do not2
>\unset ignoreVoice
>back to a -- lign -- ing with the voice
> }
>
>
> I don't have a build environment setup, so I cannot easily tinker with
> the C++. But I wonder if this would work:
>
> lyric-combine-music-iterator.cc
>lyrics_found_ = true;
>if (to_boolean (lyrics_context_->get_property ("ignoreVoice"))) {
> Moment m = lyric_iter_->pending_moment ();
> lyric_iter_->process (m);
> return;
>}
>if (!music_context_)
> return;
>
I tinkered around with this a bit:
$ git diff
diff --git a/lily/lyric-combine-music-iterator.cc
b/lily/lyric-combine-music-iterator.cc
index f585221c99..a2e3ea66fb 100644
--- a/lily/lyric-combine-music-iterator.cc
+++ b/lily/lyric-combine-music-iterator.cc
@@ -278,6 +278,11 @@ Lyric_combine_music_iterator::process (Moment /* when */)
set_music_context (new_voice);
lyrics_found_ = true;
+ if (from_scm (get_property(lyrics_context_, "ignoreMelismata"))) {
+ Moment m = lyric_iter_->pending_moment ();
+ lyric_iter_->process (m);
+ return;
+ }
if (!music_context_)
return;
diff --git a/lily/lyric-engraver.cc b/lily/lyric-engraver.cc
index 0a2b37e89c..a89473d3db 100644
--- a/lily/lyric-engraver.cc
+++ b/lily/lyric-engraver.cc
@@ -211,6 +211,7 @@ ADD_TRANSLATOR (Lyric_engraver,
/* read */
"ignoreMelismata "
+"ignoreVoice "
"lyricMelismaAlignment "
"searchForVoice",
$ lily/out/lilypond test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.23.0
Processing `test.ly'
Parsing...
test.ly:1: warning: no \version statement found, please add
\version "2.23.0"
for future compatibility
Interpreting music...
warning: cannot find property type-check for `ignoreVoice'
(translation-type?). perhaps a typing error?
warning: skipping assignment
test.ly:11:24: warning: barcheck failed at: 5/8
boys4.
|
warning: cannot find property type-check for `ignoreVoice'
(translation-type?). perhaps a typing error?
warning: skipping assignment
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Converting to `test.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
$ cat test.ly
<<
\relative c'' {
\key g \major
\time 6/8
d4 b8 c4 a8 | d4 b8 g4
}
\addlyrics {
Girls and
\set ignoreVoice = ##t
boys4. |
\unset ignoreVoice
out to play
}
>>
I then tried to run the test.ly file again, changing ignoreVoice to
ignoreMelismata in it (and in the .cc file...) to see if it would pick
up the specified lyrics duration if I supplied a 'known' property, but
it also failed the bar check.
So, unfortunately this does not yield a solution (I would have turned
this into a patch if it worked, but I don't see how I could get this
to work). I searched the source for ignoreMelismata to see if I could
find 'the place' to define it, but was unable (I thought the change in
lyric-engraver.cc would do the trick...). Oh, I also found a few other
places that look interesting!
diff --git a/scm/define-context-properties.scm b/scm/define-context-properties.s
cm
index e65d978515..d9261baa67 100644
--- a/scm/define-context-properties.scm
+++ b/scm/define-context-properties.scm
@@ -359,6 +359,8 @@ string selector for tablature
Humble patch submission
Hi, I've been using Lilypond for a longt ime now, and have recently run into (also) editting them with Vim. I've done that in the past, but am now starting to use Vim for editting Lilypond files more often, so I wanted to enable syntax coloring and keyword completion. I got that working, but I found a small problem in the vim syntax file that is included. It turns out that if I write g~g in a .ly file, the second g is not highlighted as a note name, because Vim sees this as one (key) word. I was able to fix that using the patch below. Please consider including it in the Lilypond distribution. I also fixed a spelling error while I was at it :-) I contacted the original author, but the email address that was listed bounced. Regards, Christ van Willegen $ diff lilypond.vim /usr/share/lilypond/2.18.2/vim/syntax/lilypond.vim 28c28 < " Match also parethesis of angle type --- > " Match also parentheses of angle type 55a56,58 > > " ~ is not a keyword character > setlocal isk-=126 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]
Hi, Op 22 feb. 2017 11:20 schreef <m...@hohlart.de>: Using a subdomain as proposed (live.lilypond.org), the whole lilybin stuff could be outsourced to a different server ... finding someone who provides this possibility/server is another story. I have a NAS that I could make accessible to the Internet, but unsure if it could run the binary... Can anyone advise me on this? It's a Synology. But I like the "try it!" approach very much. I agree! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Openlilylib snippets announcement
Op 27 dec. 2016 21:48 schreef "SoundsFromSound" <soundsfromso...@gmail.com>: /programming error: file name not normalized: stylesheets\old-style\settings.ily continuing, cross fingers / You have backslashes instead of slashes? HTH! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Seperation of generations
Hi, Found this in my Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/Tinus105/status/798239545560969216 Mum, why is there a hash tag there? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Exited with return code -1073741819.
Hello, On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:49 AM, MING TSANG <tsan...@rogers.com> wrote: > Exited with return code -1073741819. A quick Google search led to this: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_security/file-system-error-1073741819-on-windows-10/30f76ed6-bac1-4863-bfc0-fddb746af898 Perhaps a registry error or a file system error? Does 'rolling back' to less bars of music make the error go away? HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Donation to Lilypond - where?
... I just searched my personal archive and did not realise that it was a personal message. Terrible mess-up. Christ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Donation to Lilypond - where?
Hello David, Op 15 jul. 2016 11:03 schreef "David Kastrup" <d...@gnu.org>: > > Christ van Willegen <cvwille...@gmail.com> writes: > > Can you use this info? > > Lots of people likely can, including some that I would prefer not to. I'm terribly sorry, I never thought of those consequences! Hope it all turns out for the good... Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Donation to Lilypond - where?
HI, On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Mike Blackstock <blackstock.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is the procedure for sending a small donation to Lilypond? Can you use this info? IBAN: DE02370100500364622501 BIC: PBNKDEFF Holder's name is David Kastrup HTH! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: notation rule question
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Mike Solomon m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: I’ve never seen a hemiola in 4/4 - the most frequent use of it I’ve seen is in 3/8 in Händel’s music. I've seen a few in the Piano part of 'Oh Holy Night', which is in 12/8ths time. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
New online music editor
http://minghai.github.io/MarioSequencer/ Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com wrote: Dear FrescobaldiLilyPondMac users, as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a standard DMG disk image. Great work, much appreciated! Will try to test tonight! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Certain accidentals
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Actually I'm currently in a discussion with a (highly) professional engraver using Amadeus (a Unix/Linux program that has been out of development for 15 years now but is still used by a number of professionals). Amadeus is a text-compiling program that has a number of striking similarities to LilyPond, but also a number of striking differences. Among others, in Amadeus you'll write the pitch you _see_ and not the one you hear. That is when you're in D major you'll write F to get a fis, you'd only write fis if you want an extra accidental. And if you'd life to get an F-natural in the key of D major, how would you write that? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond Snippet Repository
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:19 AM, brentboylan brent.boy...@outlook.com wrote: Hey, I came to the forum to find some answers to a few challenges I'm having. Some of the responses I've come across link to different pages at http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/ The LSR was discussed yesterday, so it's not gone. But, indeed, the server does not respond as it should. Thanks for noticing, I'm sure one of the people taking care of the server will look into it. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A thought on Windows Experience
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Dos? How newfangled. I had to use the debugger to patch the terminal control sequences for my (text) terminal emulator under CP/M into WordStar. Yes, the manual contained the patch locations and descriptions for the terminal sequences and geometry. Hey, I remember that! There were also patch areas to put in (miniscule) pieces of Assembly for things like set-up of the terminal and stuff. Totally off-topic and totally letting everyone know that I'm an old b*tard... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Supporting my work on LilyPond financially
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Chris Crossen elaparic...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to re-emphasize that original point and hope the discussion has convinced a few more of us to make a small, but regular donation. If everyone on the mailing list chipped in 1 euro a month, that would get David out of financial problems, probably for the rest of his life... A slight over-exageration, perhaps, but not far off I think. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Supporting my work on LilyPond financially
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:11 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: If everyone on the mailing list chipped in 1 euro a month, that would get David out of financial problems, probably for the rest of his life... Just for the record, I am not having financial problems: That was part of my over-exageration. I was not saying that you had financial problems, but the message was meant to be: If we all chipped in 1 euro per month, David could probably work on Lilypon the rest of his life. A slight over-exageration, perhaps, but not far off I think. I think you are overestimating the readership here. I recently checked the Cc list for my reports (so far nobody asked for getting removed from that list) which consists of all people who have contributed so far. I was actually surprised that it was about 80 entries long. True, containing quite a few entries for one-time contributions or short periods of time, but nevertheless the number does not appear negligible compared to the active readership here. Any idea how much 'active readership' would be? The thought if everybody contributed just a little seems compelling. Yes. It shares the burden of improving Lilypond. It's actually my experience that those who pledge to contribute a monthly payment less than €10 tend to stop after few months, probably because they think it does not make a difference. Too bad :-( So unless one manages to get along on lots of small one-time payments (implying an even larger audience one has to reach), I don't see how I can get around tapping those who are enthusiastic about LilyPond, are invested in it, more than those who care only a little. If you look at Kickstarter, it's quite obvious how (many people) * (a small amount) = (a large(ish) amount of money). That would certainly pave the way to a continued development on Lilypond... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Aw: Re: Hiding empty pentagrams (first message)
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Oh, we don't need to look at others' glossaries, we have our own: URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/music-glossary/staff It would be a tremendous help if the pictures (if any...) would show up in de index as well! That would make it possible to look for something graphical that matches what I want to engrave. I'm not always sure what something is named in Dutch, an my musical English is even worse... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mandatory or a cautionary accidental?
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:03 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: In the following situation is the sharp in gis' a mandatory or a cautionary accidental: The original edition I'm copying omits the reminder flat after the line break and the sharp at the gis, and I've to know how to deal with the situation. In that case, a sharp would be cautionary. Leaving it off, however, is not particularly friendly to musicians. In theory, it's simple: Tied notes keep their alteration(s), and any new note in a new measure loses its alteration(s). In practise, my choir conductor got it wrong, stating that a new note on the second line from the bottom (or 'g' in a G clef) would be a g# because a tied g# led into the measure. Even though a few measure earlier there was an example of almost the same situation, but with a natural sign before the 2nd note in the measure... So, indeed, put both the cautionary flat and cautionary natural sign in in this case, just to make it clear what's to be played (or sung)! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mandatory or a cautionary accidental?
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at wrote: when the error of his ways was pointed out to him, he ranted about the engraver and crossed out all forced accidentals in his part... (which gave us more problems further down the line, but that's a different story). I once met a guitar player who had absolutely no idea what 'those strange marks in front of all those notes were' and consequently 'never played them'... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Images from Liedboek with attribution
Hi, On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering about the time signature 2/2 + 3/2 which doesn't seem to match the music. Won't it be less confusing writing no time signature at all? In church music, that doesn't indicate 'alternating' time signatures, but only that both of these are used throughout the piece. Occasionally, you may also see a an inline time signature for just one measure, differing from the ones specified at the top... I've been studying some scheme to get this effect automatically, since it's being used relatively a lot in church hymns. HTH Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: An idea for a systematic development of a large score.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Wim van Dommelen m...@wimvd.nl wrote: Sorry, hobo is just the Dutch name for oboe. typo Well, as long as you don't use the Dutch name fagot for bassoon... Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frecobaldi 2 Mac OS X install guide
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, flup2 phili...@philmassart.net wrote: Here is a step by step guide to install Frescobaldi on a Mac OS X system. Thanks!! I'll check it out tonight. If it works, perhaps I can 'entice' the conductor of our choir to convert to Lilpypond! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper
Hi, On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: Uh, are we still talking about LilyPond? Maybe I wasn't clear enough, and maybe this should actually have been written in a private email. I'm not refering to LilyPond's code base, but to the source code of some edition projects we have been talking about recently. These should be done in a way so they can serve as examples of collaborative editing, and their source code should look organized enough so we can show them around as examples. Ask Wilbert about the LyBoek project... 1000 rendered pages of music for people in the churches, plus 1000's more for choir and piano/organ/guitar/whatnot players. All done in the course of just a year, IIRC. Well, planning took more, of course, but note entry was a hugely parallel undertaking, and Git was used for version tracking. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Old, but nice
Hi, I was Facebook'ed the following video. It's an oldy, but it's nice: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=102421339943114set=vb.15257443455type=2theater Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Frescobaldi install (was: final score)
Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry that you have such problems. If i were you, i'd just install some Linux in a Virtual Machine (it's not difficult) and install Frescobaldi there. I conisder Frescobaldi to be much too useful not to have it - in fact, i don't remember anymore how lilyponding w/o Frescobaldi looked like! Excellent suggestion, but I'm not sure if Sarah could do this... probably not, since VoiceOver won't work inside the virtual machine1 Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: final score
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com writes: Is there a way to have line numbers turned on in lily pond so I don't have to count them? The error messages look like 03-01-2013.ly:27:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING which means file 03-01-2013.ly, line 27, column 0 (newer versions state column 1 instead), followed by two lines representing the problematic line split in the problematic place. Now how to get to line 27 of your file depends on the editor you are using. Sarah was asking how to turn on 'line numbers' in the Lilypond default editing app (for Mac OS-X), so she can more easily go to the specified line. I have looked around (briefly), but clicking in the console log does not jump to the error, nor can I turn on line numbers in that editor via the GUI, nor does the GUI have a 'go to line' command. So, Sarah's only option _for now_ is to use another editor. And because she has trouble seeing, having a 'real' point-and-click GUI does not help her at the moment. Mac OS-X's speech output is quite good, but I can imagine her having a hard time. Perhaps 'vi' could help you here, but you'd need to open a few windows. Hum, perhaps vim's QuickFix window could be of help? Not sure... Sarah, you'd have to learn 'vim', but then you can compile _within_ the editor, and when you 'make' the source of the Lilypond source you've typed, you can more easily jump from error to error. As was already pointed out, you have to fix the first error first (because a lot of consequential errors can follow the first). Please see http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/usage/text-editor-support for further information. I'm not sure if the default 'vi' that sips on Mac OS-X is 'vi' or 'vim', but I guess the latter... HTH? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: final score
Hi Francisco, On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember what the problem is about Frescobaldi on MacOS. All I can say that is directly related to this is: Well, AFAIK (and I think I checked last week...) Frescobaldi does not have an 'easy install' for Mac OS-X. It is: Install this, and this (rom source) and mind that this is the correct version, and _then_ Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: final score
Hi Sarah, On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Oh and btw the command E thing does not work. That only works in Frescobaldi, and that's not easy to set up on a Mac... but people are probably looking into that. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: a lot of accidentals. how do I notate them?
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hey thanks for your explanation. it is helping a bit. how ever I think it is still complaining d4 e! g4. f8 e If I recall though it is d, e natural, g, f, e flat. so Do I need to mark it as an e flat at the end of that measure If you want an e flat, notate an e flat, so res in Nederlands or ef in English This confused me in the beginning as well, but you need to notate the note that should _sound_, you should not notate what it 'looks like when printed on paper'. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anyone going to FOSDEM this weekend?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org wrote: I'm heading to FOSDEM in Brussels this weekend: I'm going to go (on Saturday) as well. I'll be spending most of my time near the OpenPhoenux stand (in AW, IIRC) talking to fellow GTA04-owners. Anyone interested in a completely open phone, both hard- (!!) and software are welcome to join me. If anyone is traveling from Eindhoven (or the vicinity), feel free to contact me. I'll depart early-ish (7:30? I haven't made my mind up yet...), and return after an early diner (so around 20:30 at the latest). Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Best practices in lyric typesetting
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:59 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Actually, singers don't like such things. It interferes with their pitch sense. I think the Carmina Burana has some piece for a bass or baritone falsettist and it is written in $#!! bass clef, with oodles of ledger lines. No idea how anybody is going to figure out just where in the scale he is currently singing. We recently had a song where there were at least 10 (!) switches between the choir being notated on 4 and 2 staffs, and the cleff for the tenor (my voice...) changing from G (luckily not G_8 or G^8) to F, and back again. You bet I complained! Did that help? Nope... I'm _still_ trying to get my conductor to switch to Lilypond, but alas... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Parallel music view - inspiration for LilyPond editors.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Wim van Dommelen m...@wimvd.nl wrote: TexShop does this (partly) for you: 2 windows can be open on one and the same file, updates in one window are immediately live in the other. Vim can do that with as many windows as you'd like... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Help asked - lyrics chords
Hello, I'm trying to make a score consisting of only chords and lyrics. Perhaps someone would advise me to use a different program, but I would like to be able to scale the score to another font height easily. Not sure if that can be done with another program (especially not with a text editor, probably...) So, I created the attached file, a children's song in Dutch. The 'melody' is only there to specify how long the text that is added to the notes takes, to line it up with the chords. Is there another way to do that? I haven't been able to easily remove the staff that carries the 'melody'. Is there a better way to remove it altogether instead of removing all the individual engravers? Thanks for any insights! If this file were to be found 'snippet-ready', I'll add it to the LSR! Christ van Willegen Paddestoel.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Help asked - lyrics chords
Mike, Janek, On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: Sure! Don't use any staff at all, just an explicit Lyrics context with durations: Thanks for the excellent suggestions! This makes it a lot easier to do this than the way I wanted to do it. I'll think about how to make it easier to find stuff like this. The original 'template' was found this way: I went to Google and searched for lilypond guitar chord template. Top hit was: LilyPond snippets: Chords (link: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/snippets/chords). Then, I found the 'Simple lead sheet' and figured I worked from there... So, perhaps an entry on that page showing how to do melody-less chord sheets would be a good addition to the manual, or a reference to the 'Explicit lyrics length' page. I'll see if I can add freeboard symbols easily. Apparently so, but they are ... weird! All of them are 'barre' chords, according to the manual, they should be different. Ah well, I'll see if I can figure that out! Thanks for the extensive help, again!! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: (I had a brief look at the file format years ago; the problem is that they run some sort of compression scheme over their data) What I'd do in cases like this is: - Create a 'score' with only a middle C1 in it - Same with a C2 - Same with a D1 - Same with a B1 - Other staff symbol - Other key - Look at the binary differences - Play around with the numbers - See if Sib can re-import it after change Then, re-itererate for 2 notes... Takes a long time, but may help. If there are a _lot_ of binary changes between a C1 and a C2, then it's probably some encrypted/compressed format... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi for orchestral scores
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Ralf Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: But that page only describes Midi channel mappings (meaning: how to map a channel to a sound). This has nothing to do with Midi files - a midi file (format 1) can hold up to 65,535 tracks. Just follow the link to the main MIDI page an look at Same goes for .GIF files. They _can_ hold more than 256 colors in one image (see http://phil.ipal.org/tc.html for an example of this) Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Appreciation / Financial support
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: From experience, PayPal is very easy to use to send money to someone in Europe. The currency exchange is automatic, although I don't know what the recipient fees are. According to their website it's between 0 and 4% +0,3$ depending on payment method and country. Ouch, that's quite steep! David, since you live in .de, you probably also have a bank account there. If you list the IBAN (and other info) somewhere, in .eu bank transfers are free of fees... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
Hello Janek, rest, On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity: do you forget general rules of LilyPond syntax (for example where to place special characters like # ' -), or rather some special constructs (for example how to notate clusters or cross-voice ties)? Nah, much worse than that! - How do I set the files up so that I can have separate MIDI for voices _and_ combined MIDI - How do I get notes and lyrics into variables - How do I do divisi lyrics (we usually have a 2-staff system, with Tenor and Bass (_usually_ in an F-clef) on the bottom, and the Alto and Soprano voices (almost always with a G clef) on the top staff. _Usually_ the lyrics are the same for all voices, but when they aren't it's hard to get right. Perhaps that the \ construct could be extended to enter divisi lyrics as well?) So, basically, 'basic' stuff, but 'hard' enough to have to look it up every time I use Lily (about 3 times a year...) I'm asking because we're going to discuss Lily syntax this summer and i'd like to know what exactly shall be discussed. Ok, hope this helps! When I do a new project (perhaps Wilbert's Liedboek project will get me up to speed, although there are to be templates for just about everything there...) I'll type up my problems to see if they can be addressed. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: Dear Christ, I just opened your email and have saved the attachment. I will find out in the coming hours whether it does indeed help in dealing with the problems that I'm encountering. Ok, good luck! But I wanted to say, now, how much I appreciate your digging it out. I guess you must be the user forum administrator or something like that, but even with good record keeping it must have taken quite some effort on your part to find something submitted 6 years ago. No problem at all! Since you quoted part of the original mail, I could type that into GMail's search box, and it came up with the original mail instantly ;-) And, I'm just a regular user, not an administrator _at all_. I am a comparative beginner, and I have been amazed at how ready the LilyPond community is to answer questions, even when asking them displays ignorance about the documentation. That's true, and kudos to all for: - Making LilyPond - Making LilyPond possible - Making LilyPond progress - Making docs (as a programmer, who hates making docs, I know how hard it is to describe anything at all, esp. if it needs to be read by humans ;-) ) - Replying on this nice mailing list - Etc - Etc In fact I do try to help myself as much as I can by researching the documentation and the forum, but there is a learning curve that one needs to persist in climbing, and I suspect most people (particularly non-programmer types) need some help from others in order to succeed. Yes, you need to - learn it, and - keep up with it I tend to be such a casual user (Oh, a song we're singing in the choir has been hand-written 20+ years ago, has been copied 30-ish times and can now hardly be read. Let me-re-engrave that...) this I almost always need to re-learn Lily to get it right :-( Well, I guess I need to make some base files to get started, then! Both you and, of course, Markus Schneider with his original post (even though I don't know whether he is still an active user), are generous sources of such help to me. No problem! Have a great weekend. You too! I'll be spending a large part of my weekend polishing up a special edition of a piece for the choir to sing at my baby grandson's baptism in a few weeks' time. At my own (girl's) baptism, me, my wife and 2 good friends sang a song as well. It gives such a nice personal touch to the baptism! Congrats on your baby grandson! I hope the attachment you sent will help me to sort out (most particularly) an ugly near-collision between volta brackets and the key signature, but even if it doesn't work, I already feel mightily heartened by your kindness. Thank you so much. Good luck, hope it helps! If not, perhaps other people on the list can look it over sometimes? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I realize, of course, that the above is an old post, and it seems that Markus has not been active on the forum for a few years. I came across his post while searching for inspiration in addressing some problems with volta bracket alignment, and I hoped that Markus’s attachment might be useful. However, what follows his signature in the post is a load of apparently meaningless characters. If this means that his attachment has gone with the wind, well that’s just the way it is. On the other hand, if there is something elementary that I can do in order to see the attachment, then I would be most grateful to hear about it. Here's the original attachment. HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 volta_def_pos.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
David's hard work and funding
Hi David, thanks for your fantastic work for the Lilypond project! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:28 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: I mention funding problems for my work at the end of the talk. It turns out that this month has dropped so far in one-time monetary contributions compared to the rather slow uptake of regular contributions that the minimal amount for being able to afford housing, eating, and health insurance will likely be missed significantly. FWIW, I also intend to join Wilbert's 'Nieuwe Liedboek' project, and donate whatever I get from that project to you. Chirst van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: partcombine - whole note : slash on grace note
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 13:40, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 06:21:00AM -0700, MING TSANG wrote: Blessing in+, Blessing in plus? I think it refers to the 'cross' symbol that the Catholic people use when they say 'the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, Amen' Christ van WIllegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi 2 wave (Mac OS X)
Hello Alberto, 2012/3/31 Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt: I was looking for some other application that plays midi, or a way to export quality wave fro Midi. On old times, when I used linux, I used timidity++ for that. What's the current solution? You can use fink (http://finkproject.org) to install Timidity on Mac OS-X. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Grace at beginning of score
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 14:20, ornello dominik.hoer...@fun.de wrote: What is the right way to write a grace note at the beginning of the score (or after a clef/time/key signature change)? Here is my attempt: Put a \grace s8 into the other voice. 's' is an invisible note, that takes care of setting the timing to the correct value in both voices. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Is there an equivalent of #define ... #ifndef ... #endif in lilypond?
Hi, On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 00:30, Michael Hendry hendry.mich...@gmail.com wrote: When I've finished a jazz chart, I'll want to produce separate parts for several transposing instruments, but while I'm working on the entry of the melody and chords in concert pitch I only need to produce one .pdf file. Can the bits and pieces that I found in this[1] thread help you out here? Christ van Willegen [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-02/msg00412.html -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor
On Feb 3, 2012 2:29 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Has anyone tested this on an iPad or other tablet? Just curious. Works on my Adam w/ Adamcomb rom. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: metrical structure
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 04:16, luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote: i'm trying with \markup's, but how can i get all the dots vertically aligned? Perhaps using lyrics would stack up all the dots? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 03:26, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: This will alert the singer, at the time they need to know, this is only half of the word. In your proposal, if another voice (or the accompaniment) has a lot of notes, the dash could end up in the middle of nowhere, even potentially on the next line. It does not indicate 'this is half a word' in his case, but 'this is a parenthesis', so i would lessen the confusion (I think!). Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fermata over 2 rests?
Hello,
I'm currently looking into typesetting an old piece, which has a
\fermata over a combination of r16 r8.
I've tried { r16 r8 }\fermata, but that gets flagged as an error.
Is there a way to typeset that, and would the above example be a nice
addition for improvement?
Christ van Willegen
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Re: Fermata over 2 rests?
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:15, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
I've tried { r16 r8 }\fermata, but that gets flagged as an error.
Is there a way to typeset that, and would the above example be a nice
addition for improvement?
Try something like r16*1/2 s16*1/2 \fermata r8
That way, the \fermata 'floats' between the 2 rests. Nice visual solution!
If there were a break between the two rests, that would not look good.
So, perhaps the construct I 'tried' might be added to a wish list
somewhere?
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Re: Fermata over 2 rests?
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 13:37, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: If there were a break between the two rests, that would not look good. Why would there be a break? Because, uhm, I would put one there, because it wouldn't automatically be broken between two notes? Sory, brain-fart, I was thinking of a word processor 'breaking a line' between 'words'. Must have had something to do with sleep-node, /me nods off... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 14:39, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: Attached you can find the PDF version of this cheat sheet: http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/~reinhold/temp/2011-08-24_LilyPond_CheatSheet_Basic.pdf Looks very nice! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adding dynamics to lyrics
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 05:48, Peter Chubb lily.u...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: For the benefit of search-engine-land, the way to do this is to use a separate dynamics context. Like this: The problem with specifying it like this, is that you'll have to repeat note lengths throughout the whole dynamic context. If you make a mistake anywhere, you'll have to fix it twice! That's not meant to go to you, Peter, but more something to think about for a developer... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MusicXML exporter (was Re: Lilypond lobbying?)
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 03:26, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in for US$100 toward the project. Not sure how much programming I offered a $100 bounty a couple of years ago on this idea and it still stands. Count me in for €200. Me, too, would like to see Lilypond's usage expanded! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond lobbying?
2011/8/22 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: What would be the point of using LilyPond then, if all the beautiful formatting will be lost? Keyboard entry? Click-and-edit PDF generation? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Renaissance lute and tab
Mario, export LANG=en lilypond tab.ly bash: export: `tab.ly': not a valid identifier Either press 'enter'/'return'/'new line' before the lilypond command, or use: export LANG=en lilypond tab.ly HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond to Finale :-(
Oh goody..gives me an excuse to link to these: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/misc/aphex-twin-deathwaltz-1.jpg or http://www.well.com/user/bryan/quartet.gif Nice! When can we expect the .ly file? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond to Finale :-(
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 15:03, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: How about a jpg2ly app? Well, there's Audiveris, but I've had mixed (read: No) results using that on a scanned score... Maybe I should retry it... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music
Hi Marcos (etc.) Just cd blender make test # first do the test. These should give you 3 violin bow img in the /tmp/vivi-movie/ that you could verify with your prefer soft. make mpeg # rest a couple of minutes. While it renders the movie and there you'll have a ./unit.mpeg Any preview movies that can be put up anywhere? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Splitting polyphonic musing into single voices
Hello Michał, list, 2011/2/21 Michał Kandulski michal.kandul...@gmail.com: I would like to be able to print first a staff with many voices to be played with piano and then from the same source (perhaps with little alteration) many staffs with separate voices to be sung. The important thing for the piano staff is to look as a normal piano upper staff looks like (all simultaneous notes should have common stems). Please check http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple-voices to see if it help you combining and/or splitting parts. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Hidden accidentals hiding visible ones
Hello Nick, On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: This is probably user error rather than anything else, but I just wasted 20 minutes wondering why an accidental on a note in a score was missing in the PDF output before realising that the same note appeared earlier in the same bar but in a hidden voice. Two workarounds come to mind... - You can use cis! to force the # to appear in the visible voice, but you'd need quite a lot of hand work to get this 'right'. - If the rhythm of the hidden voice and the notes are the same, use a musical expression that is the same in both voices. HTH! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: guitarist: how write chord names like Gadd5
Hello Jürgen, On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Jürgen Ibelgaufts juri...@gmx.de wrote: I want to write down guitar chords and frets with extra voicings, say a G chord with an extra Fifth on the B string, 3rd fret, or Em chord with an extra G on the treble e string. As these extra notes belong to the chords, you can write g:5, but Lilypond ignores the :5 and prints only G, and the G fret diagram gets overwritten by the G:5 fret diagram. Is there any best practice how to use and print such extra chord names, anyway? Perhaps you're looking for something like: g:3.5.8.13 ? HTH! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Translation for musical phrase Niveau-Überschreitung or Niveau-Unterschreitung?
Hello Nils, 2011/1/30 Nils Gey den...@nilsgey.de: do you know the name for the music theoretical voice progression which can be seen in this picture? The lower voice in the second cord is higher than the higher voice in the first chord. Second measure shows the same, inverted. Perhaps 'voice crossing' is what you are looking for? From the image you sent, it's not clear that the notes are from different voices. Were I to show this to the choir I sing in, the sopranos would sing the highest note, and not the lowest in the second chord. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Printing barnumber 1 (oh no, not again)
Here's a few more, probably well-known, musically-related jokes... How do you get 2 flute players to tune? Shoot one. What do you get if you drop a piano down a mine shaft? A flat miner What's the difference between a viola and a violin? The burning time. The lead viola player of the Winnipeg Orchestra finds a bottle, and opens it. Out pops a genie, granting him 3 wishes. First wish: I want to be a better player! In an instant, he is transported to the Dutch Metropole Orchestra, playing lead viola. After a few months, he puts forward his second wish: I want to be a better player! In an instant, he is transported to the Berline Philharmoniker, playing lead viola. After a few months later still, he puts forward his third (and final) wish: I want to be a better player. In an instant, he is transported to the Winnipeg Orchestra, sitting in the last row of the 2nd Violin section. Finally, a slightly more risque one: Why don't Horn players get a second date? Because they put their hand up their date's ass when kissing her good night. *ba da dum, dish* I'll be here all week, try the veal! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Printing barnumber 1 (oh no, not again)
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Jan Warchoł lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/10 Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net Then I'm very ashamed to say I found it to be rather hilarious... :) It doesn't matter whether the joke is funny or not. Jan, you're right, it may have been too risque to put here. I mentioned it before telling, so that people would have the option to read it, or not, but perhaps more restraint would've been better in this case. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: bounties
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:24 PM, David Stocker dstoc...@notesettersinc.com wrote: I think LilyPond has a dedicated base of users who would be glad to contribute resources in a concrete and structured way. It might be worth considering. I agree. Paying a 'subscription' for Lilypond usage would suit me just fine. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Where is 2.14?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, craigbakalian craigbakal...@verizon.net wrote: There was an announcement about the stability of 2.14 and for all of us to download it and use it, yet where is it to download? That was an april fools joke... Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vowel aligned lyrics - want to improve it
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Wolf Alight wolfali...@gmail.com wrote: What a way to start the monday morning! Thank you Neil! I will put this in the Snippet Repository. I just thought of one enhancement I want to make and one feature that came up: * Enhancement: Multiple alignments of notes for one lyric word. For example the swedish word begynnelsen has 4 vowels that each should be aligned with a note in the score I'm working on and using be -- gyn -- nel -- sen takes to much space. I thought that a simple solution to this would be to have it as 4 words and simply force 0 space between the syllables(words) in the lyrics but I find no command to do that. Exactly what I was think of last week! This would make a very nice addition to Lily... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lyric-aligned music
Hello,
I've been following the 'align lyrics on vowels' discussion. Nice end
result, I think I'll use it in my following Lily 'excursions'.
Now, for something slightly different...
In church music, using a hyphen to split syllables is not done.
Instead, words with 2 syllables have a note attached to each syllable
(centered on the vowels, ofcourse :-) )
So, I would like to be able to typeset {c4 d} \addLyrics {Je- sus} in
such a way that the 2 quarter notes are on the 'e' and the 'u', resp.,
and that the 2 syllables form one word.
http://dvoi.com/files/lilypond/2.5.3/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/The-Lyrics-context.html
speaks of manual lyrics durations, but that way I can't specify where
the syllables are (I think...)
Can anyone share insights on this matter?
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Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:33 PM, David Raleigh Arnoldd...@openguitar.com wrote: It is also perfectly reasonable for a person who has been writing music for decades for it to make no sense. Why? Because it makes no sense, and never did. Why not a \followKeySignature command? It would require an n in addition to the other four chromatic sign designations, and that's it. It would save typing, and it would make the notes blocks easier to read, for /musicians/ that is. I do have to disagree here... First of all, let me tell you that I am terrible at reading sheet music (I do know how to read notes, but just barely, and am unable to play a tune on the piano in any acceptable speed). When I see a black dot in the middle of a staaf, and it's a G cleff, I tend to play a 'b' note, even if the music is in F (and consequenly has one flat). If I were to read a note block 'by eye', and would see a key signature in F (major), and see a 'b' note, that's what I would play on the piano, and never a b-flat. I think that Lilypond's method of inputting the notes that _are to be played on the instrument_ (disregarding transposed instruments for now...) is the way to go. It's confused me at first, but if ou would'nt do that, it would be almost impossible to transpose a melody to another key and/or instrument. It would also royally screw things up if you'd first type the notes and later add another key signature. If you do that _now_, the music becomes unreadable because of the extra flats, naturals and sharps. In _your_ case, the music would come out sounding differently if you change the key signature. Not a good plan... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Real-world usage of Lilypond
Graham, list, On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:56:16AM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote: Are there any people out there that would be willing to help make this possible? Are you? The best way to get this started is to join the Frogs, our team of bugfixers. After fixing a few bugs, you'll be able to start extending lilypond in the direction(s) you desire. I'd be willing to help, by: - Helping typeset songs for Het Nieuwe Liedboek (http://www.kerklied.net/hetnieuweliedboek) - Helping bugfix Lilypond and/or entending it (if I can!) Question: Can anyone help me setup a Q virtual machine that can build Lilypond from source? I'd rather use a virtual machine, because it's easier to use across multiple computers (I have a Mac (PowerPC) and a PC (running Ubuntu), so having my build system as a separate 'system' would be nice!). It seems that (parts of) Lily is in C++, which I've been using since 1995. So, I can read and (probably) bugfix in it. I guess I'll have to learn other languages on the way as well, including .ly (since it's changed a lot sometimes!) So, you can probably add me to the list of Frogs. Is there a 'central place' for new people to 'gather and discuss'? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Real-world usage of Lilypond
...although we all are in 'the real world' (or at least think we are :-) ) Recently, I was attending a speech by one of the leading people being busy with compiling a new book of church songs for The Netherlands (or at least the Calvinist/Lutheran part of it). When the speech was finished I asked him if it was appropriate to point him to software that does music engraving. He said that it was and took out paper and a pen. When I dropped the name Lilypond he put away paper and pen. And told me that they were already looking into using Lilypond... So, here's a serious example of the usage of Lilypond in the real world. I was wondering if perhaps 'we' were able to help him, by: - Engraving songs for publishing, making them 'as good as possible'; - Extending Lilypond to (more easily?) accomodate engraving of church music. Two examples that I can think of are: Setting rests at the end of a system, and making music centered and not left aligned; - Any other advice/techniques/additions/modifications we can think of. Are there any people out there that would be willing to help make this possible? Perhaps some Lilypond funding could be possible (it is, after all, a commercial undertaking), and at least it can be shown that Lilypond is ready for world usage. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Real-world usage of Lilypond
Jan, list, On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote: Op dinsdag 07-04-2009 om 11:56 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Christ van Willegen: - Extending Lilypond to (more easily?) accomodate engraving of church music. Two examples that I can think of are: Setting rests at the end of a system, and making music centered and not left aligned; - Any other advice/techniques/additions/modifications we can think of. I assume you have seen http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/wilhelmus.png http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/wilhelmus.ly which includes some trickery I added as an example for Ruud van Silfhout who compiled a 400-odd page songbook for the esk. I haven't seen those, yet, (but I will). I recently ran into Ruud, not knowing that I already 'knew' him via the list. I recall hearing that he engraved a lot of music for ESK (Eindhovense Studenten Kerk, or EIndhoven Student Church for those not familiar with the Dutch language). Anyway, There seem to be 'plenty' of ideas. If it would be possible to engrave 'most' church music _without_ trickery, then you'd have something :-) Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: They vary, but Firefox has a recognised certificate which identifies the publisher as Mozilla Corporation. The certificate was issued by Thawte Code Signing CA. ...and those certificates are $599. Ouch. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26:29AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: I believe we can consider downloads from lilypond.org to be safe, but Dirk does have a point: how does he verify [binary] downloads? Perhaps we could add a column with md5sums of all the installers to the download page? This would be useful, IMO, but would probably take some effort to implement in GUB. Not only that, but it's a PITA to check an MD5-sum in Windows! The message he got probably originated form Windows XP or Vista. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shortcut for epeated chords?
Hi, On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: e.g. if I assume x means 'the last notes', I could write the above as, c e g8 x16 x x4 x16 x8 x16 Actually, I like an `x' even more than `'. I can't see an immediate problem from the syntax side. Whether it's easy to implement I don't know. Han-Wen? What I've always found 'strange' about Lilypond is that you can leave off the length of a note (or rest) if it's the same as the previous length, but that you cannot leave off the note if it's the same as the previous one! Now, we write 'a4 a a a' to get 4 a's of the same length (in 4/4 time), and 'a4 b c d' to get those notes of the same length. Writing 'a4 8 8 4 4' to get a measure of a's with diferent lengths also looks natural to me. Ofcourse, there isn't a way to write 'a4 8 4 ' to get this same measure (note the double space, meaning I left the note _and_ the length out :-) ), but still, I guess it would fit nicely in the 'c e g4 4 8 8 4' scheme of things... Just my two cents Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: from MIDI?
Hello George, list, It's possible to make a .ly file into a MIDI file, but is it possible to have a midi file and convert it back to a .ly file, or even better, a .pdf file? Yes, there is. There is a command called 'midi2ly' that converts a MIDI file to a Lilypond file. YOu can then use Lilypond to convert this to PDF. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Invoking-midi2ly for more details. Note that the results of an automatic conversion can vary wildly... HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Alternating time signature?
Hi, I've briefly referenced the manual, but am unsure if it is in there or not... We're currently learning a new piece in choir practice, with 3/4, 4/4, 3/4 and 2/4 rythm. This alteration continues unto the end of the piece. Is there a reasonably simple way to: a) Let Lilypond engrave the correct time signatures (I've seen the 3/8+2/8 example, and can probably work from there; and b) Make the barchecks work? (this is probably the hard part...) Thanks! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Please download and try
Maurits, On Dec 19, 2007 9:10 AM, Maurits Lamers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated the file to include the real binaries and it takes the filesize to about 1.8 MB. I donwloaded it, and now get the following: $ bin/lilypond -bash: bin/lilypond: cannot execute binary file $ file lilypond lilypond: Mach-O executable i386 So, no go on a PPC so far! Christ -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Please download and try
Hi Maurits, list, On Dec 19, 2007 12:56 AM, Maurits Lamers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Some feedback would be very welcome! One side note: I suspect that this build is x86 / Intel only. I admit I haven't been paying attention to that. I will try it out myself later on a PPC Mac with Tiger to be sure, but if anyone happens to have a PPC mac with Tiger or Leopard and would like to have a go at it, please do and let me know. I tried it at home, with a PPC mac running Tiger (10.4). Unfortunately, it didn't work, because I didn't get the full directory structure, I guess... $ pwd /Users/christ/Lilypond $ ls -al bin/lilypond lrwxr-xr-x 1 christ christ 23 Dec 19 07:51 bin/lilypond - ../../lily/out/lilypond but, relative from bin, ../../ would point to my own home directory, and not within the structure you've built. Any ideas where it might have gone wrong? http://kmt.hku.nl/~maurits/lilypond-leopard/lilypond-Leopard-buildoutput.tar.gz seems a bit small at 3.5 kb, maybe that's it. But still, the ../.. bothers me... HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for serial music?
Hi, (that should have been to the list, sorry to bother you Andrea) On Nov 28, 2007 12:27 AM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I typically use lilypond for algorithmic composition. I use Python to script lily. Serial practices are just very simple cases. There are other on the list doing so in very complex ways (e.g. Trevor Bača). One of these days (when I get a round tuit) I'll write a program to output a .ly file to typeset a (random) version of Riley's In C (see http://www.otherminds.org/SCORES/InC.pdf for a score of the work). It'd be nice to have a midi file of it ;-) Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Braille output in Lilypond
Hi, yesterday, I was discussing braille music with a blind person. She told me there was a project named 'e-bras' or 'ebras' that's currently busy building a program to output braille music and Midi. I told her about Lilypond, and we came to the conclusion that perhaps the 2 projects overlap, and maybe people could help each other out. I'll remind her to tell me how to contact the people of the other project, but I thought it useful to drop this list a mail now. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: all sharps ?
Hi, On 7/26/07, Vasil Kadifeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks Tao, it works ;) but then I will have to encode all c, f, and g notes as cis, fis, and gis respectively, because lilypond puts a natural sign in front of the first c, f, g note. am I correct ? I was expecting some kind of automatic mechanism for that, though I am not sure how that could be done... That's correct, you'll have to write the fis, gis and cis as, well, fis, gis and cis! That's because a 'cis' (or 'c sharp') is a different note from a 'c' (c 'natural'). If you'd rather write 'cs' for 'cis', I guess you'll have to include 'english.ly' somewhere. Since Lilypond is originally written for Dutch musicians, the default is dutch note names... See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Note-names-in-other-languages for more information. Regards, Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Slightly OT: MIDI recording on a Mac?
Hi folks, a little off-topic, I admit... I want to let our keyboard player input a score, and I was thinking that the easiest, and quickest way, would be to let him play it on our keyboard and record it on my notebook, so that I can combine the various parts into one part and re-generate MIDIs and transposed music (with Lilypond!) for all the voices. Can anyone recommend hardware and software solutions for an Apple TiBook? Due to ... certain circumstances I can only run Mac OS 10.1 on my laptop... HD is a bit freaked out. I do have GarageBand on the iMac, but after copying it to my laptop it only bounced a few times and then disappeared from the Dock. TIA! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Semi-newbie question about lyrics
Hi,
I've been searching the docs, but can't figure out why this won't work...
Here's a faily minimal sample of what I'm trying to do.
\version 2.6.3
chordsOne = { \chords {
c2 c/e f g4:sus4 g
c1 es:dim
f c2 a:7
d1:m as:dim
c/g
}
}
notesOne = {
R1*2
c4~ c16 b c b d8 c b a | c4 r16 b c b d8 c b a |
c4 r16 b c b d8 c b a | g4~ g16 f e f g4 r |
f4~ f16 e f e g8 f e d | f4 r16 e f e g8 f e d |
e4 r16 a, c d f8 e d c |
}
stanzaOne = { \lyrics {
\set stanza = 1.
She may be the face I can't for- get, the trace
of plea- sure or
re- gret, may- be my trea- sure or the price I have to pay. She may be
the song that sum- mer sings, may- be the chill that au- tumn brings,
may- be a hun- dred diff- 'rent
}
}
{
\key bes \major
\transpose c bes
{
\relative c'
{
\repeat volta 2
\chordsOne \\
\notesOne
\addlyrics \stanzaOne
%\addlyrics \stanzaTwo
}
}
}
Lilypond responds with this:
She2.ly:38:24: error: syntax error, unexpected \addlyrics
\addlyrics \stanzaOne
How am I supposed to add the lyrics to the music in this case?
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Re: Installing Lilypond under W2K
Hi Mats, all, I'm not sure how that answers the original question. Rob, have you tried to just rerun the installation program again, that usually helps. What Bertalan meant, was that this 'No Package' step (running the post-install) can sometimes take a long time. I recently installed Lilypond (from scratch) on a new PC, and this step easily took over 5 minutes.. If you abort the installation procedure at that point, you'll have to re-run the setup.exe again. HTH! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chords in Lead Sheets?
Hi Sly, list, I'm having difficulty finding any documentation that explains how to create chord nomenclature. I've only figured out the basics: root:7, root:maj, etc., but I'm struggling with sus, half diminished and others. Isn't there a list of naming conventions somewhere? The best place that I could find in the docs is http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Chords-mode.html#Chords-mode, though there may be beter places to look for them... HTH! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: problem running lilypond on windoze
Hi Chip, list, C:\\temp lilypond 'lilypond' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Process lilypond exited with code 1 C:\\temp You shouldn't run Lilypond from the WIndows command line, but from the Cygwin command line. Cygwin has probably created a desktop icon for you. You should click that, and then type 'lilypond' at the '$' prompt. Alternatively, whan you type 'bash' at the c:\Temp prompt, you'll probably get into the Cygwin command line as well. Hope this helps! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installation Problems
Hello Thomas, list, I followed the instructions on http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html for installing LilyPond on my (Windows XP/SP2) computer, but can't successfully convert the test.ly file. In the DOS window there appears the line kpsexpand: command not found, and there is an alert telling me that the file cygkpathsae-3.dll can't be found. Try re-running the setup.exe. It occasionally fails to install all the needed files, and usually re-running this program will fix that. Hope this helps! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installation Problems
Hello Thomas, please try to keep all discussions on the list... If you reply, use the 'reply to all' command in your mail program. Dear Christ, Many thanks for your message. Alas, repeated installations and downloads couldn't solve the problem. So, it seems that Cygwin did correctly install all files, after all, and the problem may lie somewhere else. Do I perhaps need to install some auxillary software? Cygwin should (als probably has) install all software needed to run Lilypond. There are some remarks on http://lilypond.org/download/fonts/INSTALL , but they are almost incomprehensible to a narrow-minded Windows user like me. ;) These remarks are targeted at Linux machines, so you can rest assured that it wasn't necessary for you to comprehend :-) Best wishes, Thomas P.S. Do I have to join some mailing list to be officially eligible for your kind support? You've sent you initial e-mail to Lilypond-user@gnu.org, which is the main mailing list used by Lilypond users to discuss Lilypond features, and installation problems. So, you don't need to subscribe (but I recommend that you do!) to receive help. Ok, now for some more problem-solving tips... Cygwin should install an icon on your desktop, that looks like the icon you can find on http://www.cygwin.com/ (the main Cygwin site). If you click it, a 'DOS window' should appear. Instead of C: (or D:), you should see a $ sign. Try typing these commands: which kpsexpand and lilypond -v Also, please make sure that the file test.ly is called that, and not (accidentally) test.ly.txt. Although, by the looks of the error message you received, the file is called just that (because Lilypond _was_ invoked), it is never wrong to check. Hope this helps (a bit...) Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: split notes over barlines
Hi Michael, list, Is there a way to have note durations splitted over barlines? E.g. if I have c4 c4 c2. in a 4/4 measure to automatically obtain c4 c4 c2~c4? Yes, there is... I went to www.lilypond.org, and clicked 'Documentation'. I went to the documentation of version 2.4 (I assume you use that version). In the 'Tutorial', there's an entry called 'Entering ties'. This is about splitting the notes manually. Near the bottom, it says 'For more information on Ties, see Ties'. Just under the third example, there's a link about 'automatic note splitting', which leads to http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Automatic-note-splitting.html#Automatic-note-splitting Hope this helps! Regards, Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can't get to run
Hello Michael, list, I am getting the following error message in the Mac Terminal, which I do not know how to fix, and is keeping me from running LilyPond. I saved test.ly as a text file, and tried putting it in different folders. Any other solutions? Thanks, MICHAEL J MILLETT www.msu.edu/user/millett1/ lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.5 Running lilypond-bin... warning: can't find file: `test' Are you sure you typed the command 'lilypond test.ly'? Notice the .ly after the file name. If you reply, please don't forget to send a copy to the Lilypond mailing list as well, so that all discussions are archived. Hope this helps! Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: install on windows 2000 existing cygwin?
Hi Dave, list, I was looking at the page: http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html and am unclear as to what I should do. How can http://cygwin.com/setup.exe know about lilypond? Cygwin consists of several packages. One of these pacakges is Lilypond. Lilypond gets built by a Cygwin developer (or, in this case, more of a 'maintainer'), and uploaded to a central server. From there, it is distributed to servers around the world, and you can download it from there. I already use cygwin, in fact I have two cygwin trees, one on c: and another on d: (and I have no clue which I am really using.) Do I still install by downloading cygwin.exe? By just running one of the setup.exe's I already have? Or with cygwin already installed, is there some other method I should use to install lilypond? You can re-run the 'setup.exe' you already have, go to the 'Publishing' section, and put a check next to 'Lilypond'. Cygwin will update your already installed packages, and also install Lilypond (plus the packages that Lilypond needs to work). Also, does lilypond uninstall easily (like by rm -rf myLilypondDirectory) or do I have to fiddle with the Windows registry? Or is there a good uninstall facility? I am concerned about this because my disk drives are getting full and windows install/uninstall has never seemed very robust to me. I'm not sure about this... Cygwin puts all 'executables' in /usr/bin. Perhaps re-running setup, and clearing the checkmark next to Lilypond would work, but I think you'd better ask the Cygwin mailing list about this. I'll let others comment on your other points, since I'm way out of my teritory is I do :-) Don't forget to send a copy of any mails you send to the mailing list for archival purposes. Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Hi, I am not sure, that's why I'm asking. Initially, my thoughts go out to a subscription: we provide regular builds, and the subscriber is able download those during X months. Perhaps there could support for installation troubleshooting as well. Sounds OK for me as well, but Fink works just as well... What binary packages are required for Lilypond to run? - Lilypond - ps2pdf? Any others? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: contemporary notation: slashed gracenote beams
Hi Mats, list, this http://www.iteaonline.org/Journal/32N1/32N1ornamentation.shtml is probably what he's looking for. See example 2, measure 3. Can you point to some example (preferably some score available on-line or a scanned copy) that shows the layout you are looking for? /Mats Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Slashed gracenote beams for as fast as possible are quite common. I think they are not implemented, at least I did not find in the doc. Any tricks? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: contemporary notation: slashed gracenote beams
It's hard to see from my point of view, but as far as I can tell the slash is through the flag and the beam... But you're right... it seems that the standard \acciaccatura shows exactly what I was refering to. On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:37:01 +0100, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a slashed flag, not a slashed beam. Also, it's in the first example you find if you look up the section on Grace Notes in the LilyPond manual, so why would Thomas ask about that? /Mats Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi Mats, list, this http://www.iteaonline.org/Journal/32N1/32N1ornamentation.shtml is probably what he's looking for. See example 2, measure 3. Can you point to some example (preferably some score available on-line or a scanned copy) that shows the layout you are looking for? /Mats Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Slashed gracenote beams for as fast as possible are quite common. I think they are not implemented, at least I did not find in the doc. Any tricks? Christ van Willegen -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
