Re: Recommendations for an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner?
On 8/19/2013 10:35 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: Beyond the obvious (cups, x/sane), HPLIP toolbox more or less mirror's the HP Window toolbox minus the all the bloatware and in most cases the printer simply works out of the box. If you download the CORPORATE windows drivers for your HP printer you get it without the bloatware. To be honest I have not tried to use it to scan with my ethernet attached multifunction printer, but it does print well. Most of the problems I have found with HP printers on networks is due to them having floating IP addresses (randomly assigned by DHCP servers) and if you give them a fixed IP address they work fine. Windows also supports printing over HTTP, so you can easily connect your windows system to CUPS. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Did anyone buy a Kaya 10 inch table from Office Depot?
Did anyone buy a Kaya 10 inch table from Office Depot? It has 2 USB ports on it, one marked HOST (USB type A) and a mini USB port. If you plug in the miniusb port to a computer running Windows using a regular USB cable it asks for drivers which only are available if you install the Google development kit. Anyone know exactly what the USB ports are for, and how to use them? It's running Android 4.1 Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Mobile phone question
On 7/28/2013 12:29 AM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: So I looked it up, jailbreaking is legal but if you hand the phone in in it's jailborken state they will claim your warranty is void, if you restore the phone to factory before handing it in you should be fine (at least according to the people on the oh-so-trustable internets) Jailbreaking is a minor issue. First of all, only a small portion of iPhone owners do it, most have no need nor clue as to why one would do it in the first place. Jailbreaking can be removed by resetting the phone back to the state you bought it, which can easily be done using iTunes and anyone who has enough tech savvy to jailbreak it in the first place knows how to do it. To keep this the least bit on topic, Android also has a padded cell which prevents you from installing software except from the Google store, but it can be turned off via a user settable option. The problem is removing SP (usually mislabeled SIM) locks. If a locked iPhone does not have its SP lock removed by Apple, it has been tampered with and will not be repaired. Service Providers that sell SP locked iPhones, unlock them through Apple. I have never seen an SP locked Android phone, although I am sure they exist, so I have no information about how one unlocks them. Ehm... the iDen network is still up and still heavily used. Ok, thanks, I thought it was dead. But yeah I also heard rumors that they'd like to close it and move everyone to 3G, I guess if they provide stable PTT services on those networks and devices that are rugged like most iDen devices most people won't mind. There are several private (as in non government) trunked radio systems in Israel, eventually everyone using MIRS will either go to cell phones, or buy time on one of them. Keeping the MIRS network going for the few users they have today will become less and less worth the cost. Note that MIRS is the name of the system and service, iDen is a US vendor's name for their service to separate it from Motorola's MIRS service and other trunked services. Pelephone didn't start with no customers, when the market was just released I actually spoke to them to see if I wanted to move to them but at the time their 3G network wasn't operational yet and I would have had to buy a new (old) phone just to connect to them. Pelephone has been mistreating customers since the first cellular service in Israel. They started out with AMPS, then NAMPS (which failed miserably in the rest of the world due to poor service in hilly/built up areas. They they moved to 800mHz CDMA, which was even worse in terms of crowded or hilly areas. As far as I can find online Pelephone is still operating it's old network (EV-DO/CDMA2000) but aren't accepting new customers with that technology... Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Mobile phone question
On 7/27/2013 9:59 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: I may be wrong but iirc the US like Israel established the right in law of the customer to have his/her phone unlocked/jailbroken without that affecting warranty... I don't think that would apply. The correct way to unlock an iPhone is to have Apple do it. They push an update to your phone which you install with iTunes. Therefore the phone shows up as unlocked in their database, and if it is not officially unlocked, it has been tampered with, which voids the warranty. The places that sell official unlocks buy them from your carrier or Apple itself. Orange and Cellcom (including golan) based companies still support GSM (2G), however for a player like golan it is reasonable to expect that they will not put up their own 2G network so when/if they get full coverage in an area 2G connectivity may very well be lost. I disagree. I assume that if they ever do put up a network and it is 3g only, they will continue their current roaming agreement with Cell-Com. Actually I doubt that they will put up more cells than needed to fulfill the terms of their license, the Cell-Com deal is too profitable. HOT had to start from scratch. Although it was marketed as a cellular network, it was really a MIRS (trunked radio) network and not compatible with any cell phone. They ripped it all out, and replaced the Motorola MIRS cells with Nokia 3g cells. That required replacing everything as MIRS was 800mHz, Israeli 3g is 2.1gHz. But Golan has too sweet a deal, and too many 2g users to abandon them. So if they put up anything at all, they will IMHO keep 2g, even if it is roaming onto Cell-Com. The difference is that HOT and Rami Levi (remarkets Pelephone 3g) started with no customers and therefore could say, want our service, buy a 3g phone, while Golan is actively pushing customers to 2g phones. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: While we are on the subject of mobiles
On 7/27/2013 11:26 PM, Mord Behar wrote: There was an Android build that will run on an x86 processor somewhere... the development kit comes with a simulator. Whether you can actually simulate your specific phone's environment... I'm doubtful. In order to contact the cellular network your phone must identify itself to the nearest tower, and it does that vie the information burned in to the SIM card by the service provider. I don't think that you will be able to get very far without one. However, Gmail allows you to send SMS messages to phones using a couple of providers, I forget which. I think maybe Cellcom and Pelephone. The cheapest way to send 1 SMS to a cell phone from a computer is SKYPE. $0.10 (about 50ag). Nothing needed but free software and almost any internet connection. If you want to send many, it becomes expensive quickly. The cheapest way to send a reasonable amount is to install either a Nokia phone which supports the feature connected via either BlueTooth or USB OR a Hauwei USB dongle to your asterisk system. A properly unlocked Hauwei dongle can be used to send and receive SMS's and make and receive phone calls. Depending upon your cellular plan it may be a good investment or a waste of money. About a year ago I bought a Hauwei dongle from a store in Haifa (it was listed in ZAP) for under 300 NIS delivered, and another (used) one for $50 delivered from a eBay vendor. The eBay one had an antenna jack, which is good because within USB cable range of my asterisk system there is no reliable cell phone coverage. I bought a $15 antenna from China which is now out the window and on a railing, and it works perfectly. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Canada's Start-up Visa
On 7/23/2013 6:07 AM, Tom Balazs wrote: Q: What is the minimum investment that I would need to apply for a start-up visa? A: You must secure a minimum investment of $200,000 if the investment comes from a designated Canadian venture capital fund. You must secure a minimum investment of $75,000 if the investment comes from a designated Canadian angel investor group. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/business/start-up/index.asp Or if it turns out that you were born in Canada, or have a relative that was born in Canada, you are a Canadian citizen. I was born in Canada, my parents were dual US/Canadian citizens. I moved to the US when I was 5, and never went back, so I lost my citizenship. About two years ago, the law was changed, and I am now a Canadian citizen, so is my wife, my children (who have never been to Canada), and their spouses and their children*. I think it goes farther than that. In order to claim your free citizenship, you fill out a form and send them $75, which gets you a citizen's ID card (similar to a tehudat zehut). Once you have one of those you can apply for a passport. Since the citizenship was bestowed upon you, and not requested it does not affect your other (e.g. US or Israeli citizenship) you may have, nor does it incur any tax liability. Geoff. * My oldest son is the only one who is married and it turns out his wife's father was born in Canada, so he would also be a citizen, and so would his children because his wife is now a citizen. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software *free open source*
On 7/7/2013 4:51 AM, Ori Idan wrote: Tax authorities has nothing against OSS software and they already gave approval to OSS software twice (Drorit, my software and it's fork Linet, both GPL). I never said anything about FOSS, what I was commenting on was the requirement to have either be a CPA or a have a level 3 bookkeeper certificate in order to be legally able to enter the data into you approved (Open source or not) program. Has that restriction been lifted? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: accounting software *free open source*
On 7/7/2013 1:20 AM, Micha Feigin wrote: On the other hand as memory serves, you can run your books using an open source software and then submit the printouts to a certified accounted to make a legal report. You may need to work with generic receipts in parallel though. As it was explained to me by my accountant, the tax authorities don't care how you keep YOUR books, they only care that the submissions to them are done properly. Properly means that an accepted (certified?) program is used and that the data was entered by a level 3 (starts at 1) certified bookkeeper or a certified public accountant (CPA). In real terms this means for small business the data is sent to your accountant and they (or their certified bookkeeper) enters it into their program on their computer and submits that to the tax authorities. At that point the responsibility for the data being entered properly and the program being a legal one is borne by your accountant and not you. IMHO this is preferable because my experience in being an independent consultant, the owner of a small consulting firm, and involved with startups over various times, is that any money spent paying a professional to keep your books and prepare your tax returns is well worth it. YMMV. Most accountants will accept data in XLS (Excel spreadsheet format), so you can enter the data in an Excel spreadsheet and send them the file. I assume that an Excel spreadsheet created and maintained by OpenOffice would be acceptable to them. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestions for Hardware/driver WIFI combo that allows low level signal access
On 7/2/2013 7:49 PM, Micha Feigin wrote: Hi All, I'm was wondering if anyone here can recommend a hardware / driver combo for WIFI that allows access to the low level signal. I'm looking to do some non-communication related research (uni stuff) that requires sending custom signals over WIFI frequencies (to avoid FCC limitations), and I was hoping that there is some existing hardware that I can hack at the driver level instead of building complex hardware (which I have, but getting a high enough accuracy starts getting pretty expensive). I'm not looking to bypass power/frequency limitations, just to send custom signals over one of the WIFI channels. That would not be legal without an amateur radio or experimental transmitter license. You are not legally permitted to modify a WiFi device to transmit more than 100mW EIRP, operate on the legal 2.4 and 5.8 gHz channels allocated to WIFI and use any other modulation or data encoding. You mention FCC limitations. They are different than Israeli ones as far as EIRP, but basically the same about modification of devices. Of course ISRAELI laws apply here and region 1 IARC rules. If you are in an under FCC jurisdiction, that would be covered by region 2 IARC rules and be aware that the FCC has a very active enforcement division and would be glad to slap you with a $10,000 fine for each violation they detect. Sorry. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Suggestions for Hardware/driver WIFI combo that allows low level signal access
On 7/2/2013 9:13 PM, Micha Feigin wrote: I'm currently working in the states, probably should check Israeli/USA law at some point. What I have now is this interesting setup which implements narrow bandwidth radar at the 2.4GHz range. As far as I know it is legal in the states (it uses readily available hardware as well) http://www.glcharvat.com/Dr._Gregory_L._Charvat_Projects/Cantenna_Radar.html Dr. Charvat has an amateur radio license, callsign N8ZRY. As for the 2.4 gHz band being available for unlicensed use for unapproved devices I have no idea. I do know that it is NOT legal in Israel. There was a conflict between the IDF and Wifi and Bluetooth devices and the IDF was given a huge sum of money to buy new equipment to get off the short range bluetooth channels, and channels 4-8 of WIFI. Then Omri Sharon came back from vacation and showed his father some WIFI/Bluetooth device and by order of the Prime Minister, all Bluetooth and the EU Wifi channels were allowed. (1-12). However the power limit of 100 mW EIRP was strictly enforced and amateur radio operators lost their ability to use higher power. 5.8 gHz was allowed here April 1, 2012. Still one would have to be careful what you do, placing a USB WIFI dongle or a gain antenna of any sort inside a coffee can would raise the power beyond the 100mW EIRP limit. The famous Pringles can antenna is illegal both in the US and Israel. So are all of those $20 Yagi antennas on eBay, although if there is sufficient feed line loss they would be legal in the US. I think the best thing to do would be to contact Charvat directly and ask him for advice about what you can and cannot do. If you require an Amateur radio license, you can study for a technican class license in the US in a weekend (there often are cram classes) and take the test almost anywhere. If you are at MIT, I'm sure there is a radio club and people to help you. If I were you while you were at it, I would go at least as far as a General class license, the next step up. If you are an Israeli citizen, you can then get an Israeli license without taking any tests, as long as you can prove that you were studying in the US at the time. The MOC is legally required to accept your US license for conversion even if you flew in for the weekend, took the test and flew home, but it is a lot easier if you are living there when you take the test. Getting the equivalent of a General or Extra Class license in Israel is far more difficult than it is in the US. It basically connects a signal generator to a voltage controlled ocsilator with 200MHz bandwidth around 2.4GHz. I was looking to expand on this idea in the direction of the work by Dina Katabi from MIT CSAIL which require hacking the signal that the radar sends http://people.csail.mit.edu/fadel/wivi/ The trick is not to change spectrum or intensity, but play a bit with the signal modulation within the regulated frequency range. Most of the stuff could probably also be done within the legal / standard WIFI type communication, but I need finer control over timing / encoding which would probably be either very hard or impossible to achieve going through the regular network stack. That's very interesting. She uses standard WIFI hardware, channels and data streams which would make it legal. More likely, what you will have to do to use WIFI hardware is not only control the timing, but to figure out what bit patterns produce the signals that you want. Note that the legality of WIFI equipment and signals are based upon the transmitter, in the US it is legal to do almost anything with the receiver. You may want to look at the USB DVB-T dongles that are being used as software defined radios. I don't know of any that work as high as 2.4gHz, but there may be one by now. I am also looking at UWB / XBAND but that is a completely different discussion that involves people that are allowed to do it and very custom (expensive) hardware. Way beyond this discussion. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: c/unix q
On 06/04/2013 02:43 PM, ronys wrote: Nothing. You're just wasting resources (file descriptors) and making your code a bit harder to understand and maintain. It kind of says to anyone reading the code that you put the minimum into creating it you could, and implies there are details that were not addressed. Of course I'm an old assembly language programmer, where everything is declared, nothing is left to default, and anything allocated or opened is explicitly freed or closed when you are done with it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux Consultant
On 05/09/2013 10:37 AM, Mord Behar wrote: I was approached by somebody to help out with a Linux project. The thing is, I don't know how much to charge (by the hour). I have not yet finished my bachelor's in CompSci, and have no formal Linux training. I have been using Linux for years, and am currently employed as a tech support person (windows and Linux systems). So, what is a good asking price? What is the market like? Since you are not in the business, it might be better to ask them what they want to pay for your time. If you like the answer, take it. Note that there are tax implications, you have to pay taxes based on the income being above your current income. You should also look at your current contract, you may have agreed not to work for anyone else. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: filesystem capable of deduping tar.gz's content
On 05/08/2013 10:47 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: What is your purpose? Just doing something fancy to impress your boss or truly save space, e.g., if this stuff - everything that gets built - is backed up? I'll assume the latter. [Aside: if it is not backed up, how many versions do you really need to keep and why is it an issue?] I obviously can't read his mind. I'm also old fashioned. If I were shipping out a software package to paying customers, I'd be sure to have available the version they were running in order to provide support, even if available meant on DVD in a file cabinet. It depends upon what you are selling, of course, I expect that install the latest version is ok for a $5 Android app. I would not want to say that to a customer who is paying $10k a month for support. I also would not rely on daily backups unless I had a procedure in place that updates were made only once a day AFTER the backup. Otherwise you end up with a backup that may no match shipped product. As for Oleg's suggestion of a version control system, I'd do a lot of research to make sure it can hold what you need. Source code diffs are relatively small, object ones get big fast. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How many times can an internet connection interruption occur and still be considered acceptable?
On 04/02/2013 08:03 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Guy Gold guy1g...@gmail.com wrote: If Dotan connects a laptop to the modem's LAN port, instead of the router, and the same issues keep happening, doesn't that clear the router from being the culprit ? Seeing how Bezeq does not have a Linux 'dialer' this is not an option. I already fought with them on the phone about this. You can either buy a router from BEZEQ, which includes support, or buy the router support option (10 NIS a month) and use your own routers. In either case, it's worth it if you have problems, the people that support the routers have actual training in data communications and access to test equipment. The windows dialer support people are basically reading from a script. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How many times can an internet connection interruption occur and still be considered acceptable?
On 04/01/2013 10:12 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: I use Bezeq for my infrastructure and Bezeq Beinleumi for my ISP. Every hour or two my internet connection is disconnected. It will remain so until I unplug the modem and plug it back in. Connected to the modem is a D-Link DIR-320 router, which connects my Ubuntu machine via cable and various other devices (laptop, Nook, Android phone) via wireless. If your infrastructure was upgraded from an aDSL-2 to vDSL/aDSL-2 combination units, you need to upgrade your modem. You can tell, by the maximum speed BEZEQ can offer you. If it is 15m or less it is aDSL-2, if it is more, than the hardware was upgraded. The problem is the upgraded hardware does not do aDSL-2 very well, and you should upgrade to vDSL. BEZEQ does not tell people this when they make the upgrade. While you are at it, you should upgrade your router. It's going to have all sorts of problems running out of space for routing tables, and very likely does not reset NAT tables when the line drops. I have had really good results with a D-Link 6740vn router from BEZQ which has an integrated vDSL modem. It's nice because you can log into the router and check the speed and quality of the DSL connection. You can even run BERT (bit error rate) tests on the fly. Note that almost no one in Israel had an aDSL connection to their central office. BEZEQ quietly replaced every line they could, and are still working on the rest with fiber optic connections. Each connection is 100mBit and gets split at the corner to DSL lines. So your actual DSL connection is a most a few hundred meters, and often a lot less. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How many times can an internet connection interruption occur and still be considered acceptable?
On 04/01/2013 10:47 PM, Guy Gold wrote: If you want to simplify the chain of problems, you can have just one device connected to the Modem, if I recall correctly, it will lease one IP address to the connected device (PC/ laptop). If drops still occur, then it is certainly not the router who is to blame, or any other segment on your LAN. Faulty logic, sorry. If the drops still occur, it is at least the modem or phone line, ISP, etc, but that does not rule out there being a problem with your router, wiring etc. Remember the number of failures you are seeing is the TOTAL of all failures, and they are not mutually exclusive. Or in plain English, if your felafel tastes bad, it may be the felafel, it may be the pita, it may be the salads, or it may be a combination of any or all of them. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: How many times can an internet connection interruption occur and still be considered acceptable?
On 04/02/2013 02:38 AM, Guy Gold wrote: If Dotan connects a laptop to the modem's LAN port, instead of the router, and the same issues keep happening, doesn't that clear the router from being the culprit ? No, it only shows that there is a fault somewhere between the ISP and the LAN port. It does NOT show there is no fault after the LAN port. You are assuming that there is a single point of failure or only one bug. In reality there are many and they often cascade. One of the software failures of that generation of routers is if the connection drops, the NAT tables are not refreshed. So some connections are NATed to the wrong IP address. Another mores subtle bug is that the capacitors in the power supply for the router are starting to fail, which leads to random unpredictable results. The same with the WiFi, where a spec of dust or a minor change in a capacitor's or resistor's electrical value will result in major tuning changes, causing signals to degrade. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: DID/SIP provider in Israel
On 02/27/2013 07:15 PM, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, Does anyone have experience with https://vpbx.co.il/index.php/he ? Specifically, do they provide DOD, asterisk connectivity, etc? -- Arie If you are looking for small amounts, e.g. home use, I've had good luck with a Huawei dongle and chan_dongle. I use Golan. They have a good plan for 10 NIS. I use it for incoming and outgoing calls and SMSs. Incoming SMSs are routed (by my setup) to my email, outgoing ones come from a PERL program that runs on another computer which ssh'es into the asterisk system and then issues the command. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Raspberry PI questions
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I'm not sure I can actually use it, but if I do, I now know where to buy them from. I also got a reply about the USB (I don't know if it was to me direct or to the list, so I'll just say thanks and summarize to the list): The model A has a single USB port on the board. It is connected directly to the USB type A port. The model B also has the single USB port. It is connected to a three port hub. The hub is connected to the two USB type A connectors and a USB ethernet interface. So the USB bandwidth is shared between both type A ports and ethernet. I was speaking today to someone who is in contact with people working downward in the same direction I am working upward. I was looking at taking a Raspberry Pi and building an application on it. The people he was speaking to already had the application running on X86 hardware and were in the process of porting it to DD-WRT routers and the Raspberry Pi. They are having problems because the single USB port does not provide enough bandwidth In my case it may be possible as I only want to go one direction, they were going two. Thanks again to everyone. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 It's Spring here in Jerusalem!!! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Raspberry PI questions
Does anyone know of a company selling them here? I'm looking for them with a reasonable price, e.g. board, cheap shipping and VAT, as opposed to board and expensive shipping from out of the country. Second question, which I can't quite find an answer, does the model B have 2 separate USB ports, or one USB port spilt with an on board hub? Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Gung Hay Fat Choy! (May the new year be prosperous). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
X10 type home automation
Long ago, in a time before Linux existed, in a place far, far, away, I had a home automation system. It used X10 modules sold by a company called BSR (which was only related to the British company because at one time they sold BSR turntables). I had both manual controllers, which allowed me to turn off and on lights, etc from other rooms in my house. I also had an interface which allowed me to send commands on a serial port to it which would be sent to modules over the power lines. I wrote a command line program that ran under SunOS to control it. This gave me the ability to use a crontab, etc to control things. I'd like to implement that here. The mechanical timers available just don't work very well, and have to be reset every time the power goes out, which is too often. So what I am looking for are modules that have an on/off switch (relay type) in them. We no longer have any incandescent lights to use the dimming lamp modules. These modules should accept an Israeli three prong plug or an EU type two pin one, and plug into an Israeli outlet. I also need some sort of computer interface to control them. I assume by now if there is anything at all, it is a GUI. It should run on Linux. USB or ethernet would be better than RS-232, but I will gladly take that too. I may be asking too much, but looking at the current prices of 120 volt units, I should be able to pay around 100 NIS per module and 200-300 for the controller, but I am willing to pay more if I have to. Thanks in advance, for any information. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Gung Hay Fat Choy! (May the new year be prosperous). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?
shimi wrote: What needs to be the threshold? Does the ISP needs to continue giving him service if the whole ISP gets down for 4 hours, like happened last Tuesday to 012? Interesting. I never noticed it, however for one night last week, which I have forgotten which, we had to switch from Netvision to 012 to access anything. I have lines to both and switch between them as I need performance. Usually I don't have to switch my DNS servers but this time I did. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Gung Hay Fat Choy! (May the new year be prosperous). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Parts of the internet keep on disappearing on me
E.S. Rosenberg wrote: Even though you say it is not your DNS provider, please note that unless you manually set something else the Bezeq modem are notoriously unreliable in my experience, they can be acting fine with one computer in their network and almost completely barring access from another machine. Since DNS queries are UDP, it possible for them to get lost and never even been noticed. I use a caching DNS server pair, one looks to google for it's external requests (going through Netvision) and the other uses OpenDNS (going through 012). Usually either works fine, sometimes, especially with Facebook, it just gets stuck. Clicking refresh brings the page up quickly. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 If it's farther than groundwave, it's DX. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: A funny thing happend to me tonight.
Do you see a text screen with a *text* cursor or a *mouse* cursor? If it's the former, I can't see how this could be KDE or Gnome related... No, I see a black screen with a working X windows mouse cursor. Try looking in /var/log for any X server messages, or try to run X yourself (startx) to see if you can see any hints of what's wrong. In xsession-errors I found the problem. Sometime in 12.04's maintenance a bug was introduced to Gnome on Intel GMA-950 video cards. It was not in the 12.10 release, but was propagated between Wednesday when I installed it, and Saturday night when I upgraded it. It runs of of space somewhere, the diagnostic message makes it look like disk space but it is in the video card itself. Although the bugs filed are for Gnome, using KDM and KDE did not fix it. Since I had made a backup before I ran the update, I restored my system and it works fine. I won't be upgrading again for a while. Meanwhile, any suggestions for a more stable distro. This, Dotan, is the reason why I said NO ONE can warranty that Linux, especially UBUNTU will run on a computer. While I don't think anyone sells GMA 950's any more, I would not be surprised if this bug also affects other Intel display chip drivers. If it is the case and you had bought 4 computers last week after testing them with the UBUNTU (or any variant of it) live CD, and installed it on them today, you would have 4 useless computers and or a big headache. :-( Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: A funny thing happend to me tonight.
Dotan Cohen wrote: Please report that bug, Geoff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect It's already been reported. That's how I found out that it existed. I don't think I can document it with any useful information except that it worked on Wednesday and was dead on Saturday. Since I no longer have that system, I restored to a Friday backup, I can't look for anything. I don't see how it is relevant. I didn't ask anyone to sell me a computer running Linux that will never have any userspace software issues. I asked a company which sells computer components which motherboard has components that are currently compatible with commonly-available Linux distros. It's relevant IMHO because it goes against conventional wisdom. If you tried a live CD, if you did an install on one system, if you looked at the Hardware Compatibility Lists, if you just looked up the driver status of every bit of hardware on the computer, if you had rolled twelve sided dice and accepted anything above 7 on each of them, it would have been ok, but failed miserably if you installed them this morning. I'm not even sure it is a userspace issue. Before I gave up and went back to my working backup, I tried KDE. I got effectively the same results. I may of had something misconfigured at that point, but I can't tell anymore. I'm not trying to make this a personal attack, and apologize if you were or are offended in any way. I seriously do not think it is possible for a computer vendor, even the size of Ivory, to warrant that a computer you buy will run Linux. Ironicaly, I did buy the laptop in question from Ivory, almost 4 years ago to the day. In that time it has run Linux, Windows, BSD, occasionaly all at the same time. Although I have had to live with lots of features of UBUNTU, until last night it never failed to run. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: A funny thing happend to me tonight.
E.S. Rosenberg wrote: The GMA950 was very problematic in the beginning and clearly still has it's issues. I bought the laptop around Dec 31, 2008. It has most of the time run a BSD variant, but I have always had Windows XP and UBUNTU on it from the day I got it. Up until last night it has always worked (as far a graphics are concerned) perfectly on all three systems. As soon as I restored the Friday afternoon backup, it worked perfectly. It was from UBUNTU 12.10 installed Thursday. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
A funny thing happend to me tonight.
Last week I installed Ubuntu 12.10 and Windows 7 on a laptop. Both run fine, so tonight I did a software update on the Ubuntu system. It boots, I get a login screen and when I log in I get a blank screen. Totally black with a white cursor. An Xterm started from the console starts, but nothing show up on the screen. Once with a lot of playing around I got the Ubuntu icons from their new system on the left, but they were inactive and the menu bar at the top was blank. So either it is a X Windows problem and I'm stuck, or it's a gnome problem and I am partially stuck. I tried removing my gnome setting directory and it did not help. The old options of a failsafe session or a lower res or 2d session are gone. I'm trying plan B, which is to install KDE and see if it works. Luckily I have a fast internet connection, it download around 500 packages. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install
Rami Rosen wrote: Hi, About four years ago I bought a laptop in one of the stores mentioned in the thread. It turned out that it came with a different wireless nic than that which appeared in the official manufacturer link! It came with a wireless nic without 80211n support. And it was not a link to a wrong model. Eventually it turned out that it was a rare error from the manufacturer (They said that the same model name has different ingredients for the middle east and for Europe). And this manufacturer is a big, well known and veteran company.Since this was important to me at that time, I asked to replace it, but the store did not want to negotiate this with the supplier, so I had to negotiate it by myself. That's not as rare as you would think. 5gHz networking was illegal in the EU (and Israel) at the time and therefore 802.11n devices could not be sold there or here. They still are illegal here, and some manufacturers simply don't sell those devices here (for example the Apple routers), or sell special 802.11n devices without the 5gHz channels. I have a whole bunch of EdiMax routers which are special for Israel and similar locations, they don't have the 5gHz channels, you can't adjust the output power and they have permanently attached antennas.* There was a big controversy over the Apple iPhone 5 as it was the first iOS device with 5gHz networking. At first it was banned from personal import. I don't know if it is legal to import one, but you have to promise not to use the 5gHz and the ones sold here will have it removed, or it's ok to use the 5gHz. Geoff. * You are limited to 100m EIRP (radiated power) here by law, so those high power (200mw) wifi cards or external gain antennas are illegal to use. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hardware Database
E.S. Rosenberg wrote: Call me old fashioned but why start yet another such database instead of contributing to existing efforts? Not only that, but it won't answer the original question. It will tell you that something did not work and when, but it does not tell that something WILL WORK today. The first reason is that it may not be granular enough, e.g. it may list a model but not a revision code or submodel (assuming the manufacturer changes them when they make changes). The second is there is not a single Linux distro that is 100% stable. Even the UBUNTU long term support versions and the RHEL/CENTOS equivalents make Kernel and driver changes. What you end up with is either it did not work, but it might now, or it did work, but it might not now (the later being unlikely, but not imposible), which is pretty close to what we have now with our turbans and crystal balls. That's why I keep around some PCMCIA and USB wifi cards/dongles going back to around 2005, some old ethernet cards and a USB DVD drive. I also have a few modern 802.11N dongles and cellular modems with various chipsets, so I can get some network connectivity. I can install and upgrade a distro with a low res slow display or no mouse, but I can't work without networking. On the other hand, I am still looking for a $10 USB DVB-T tuner dongle with Liunux support. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install
E.S. Rosenberg wrote: Generally the linux drivers cover an equally large if not larger spectrum... Yes, but not always, AFAIK the last person in Israel to get a $10 USB DVB-T tuner to work under Linux was @Guy Sheffer. Since then the chipsets keep change so fast that no one can keep up with them. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install
Dotan Cohen wrote: It seems that the Ubuntu Hardware Compatibility List website is no longer maintained, and I cannot find any official information about these motherboards on Linux in general or Ubuntu in particular. If you can recommend a good supplier in the south (Beersheba) that has reasonable prices and better parts, then I might be able to convince them to ditch Ivory. I have spoken with Ivory customer support, which told me that they cannot guarantee that any of the motherboards will work. I don't understand. I know the manufacturers provide support and are responsible for the Windows drivers, so Ivory could as far as their warranty support goes, claim they work with whatever release of Windows the manufacturer claims it does. But no one in the supply chain supports Linux, decides what drivers are included in a release or distro and so on, so how can they make that claim? Ivory is IMHO at least being honest. If you think I am exaggerating, look up the history of the first UBUNTU Netbook Respin. After the deadline for changes on that release passed, the one beta tester with an ATOM processor came back from vacation and found the already finalized but unreleased version about to go out would not boot. Instead of holding the release, or at least including a big warning, they released it as is, and left a lot of people with an unbootable system after an upgrade. The Netbook respin was a quick fix, but as I remember, it had its own problems. I expect that no honest vendor will do more than give you a chance to try a Linux install on one of their computers and if it works, sell you four of them. There was time you pay a premium and buy a Linux computer, such as a VA. Linux, Dells with their own Linux distro, etc, but I think they are long gone. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install
Dotan Cohen wrote: On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand. I'm looking for a place to buy a computer. That part I did understand. What I did NOT understand is how can a retail vendor of computers warranty that a particular disto of Linux will run on a specific computer unless that Linux comes from the manufacturer of the computer. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Home made NAS
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: All of the above is probably negligible compared to two important arguments that have already been mentioned: 1) as a home appliance there are better, more economical, and - most importantly! - quieter solutions for a modest price; 2) tinkering with such a heterogeneous system will yield invaluable experience, especially in terms of never trying anything like this for anything important. I want to point out that disk failure statistics may be less useful than one would think. The majority of hard disks came from a factory in Thailand which was wiped out by a flood about 2-3 years ago. This caused a large rise in the price of disks, and the reamining manufacturers scrambling to produce more disks from existing factories at lower prices. The price of hard disks has yet to be as low as it was. Since those new disks have not been around long enough for long term failure statistics, I would be careful using the old ones. BTW, in an unrelated discussion somewhere else two days ago, several professional sysadmins I know recommended OpenIndiana (an open source fork of Solaris) and ZFS for home NAS's. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Looking for recommendations: sending SMSs from linux
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Hi all, I am looking for recommendations for hardware to send SMSs from a linux server and connected through its USB port. It's important that it'll be stable and robust. I'd also like it to: 1. be easy to buy in Israel and get warranty/support 2. have good support in both the kernel and relevant user-mode tools 3. be able to manage from remote, especially reboot if it's stuck 4. be fast 5. not be expensive I use a Hauwei (or is it Huawei?) dongle. The asterisk chan_dongle driver allows you to make and receive calls and send and receive SMSs. I was able to find one for sale in Haifa using ZAP, after someone who is not on this list pointed me to,a I bought one from an eBay vendor selling them. He sells them for under $50 including registered mail from Hungary, and they take less than 2 weeks to get here. I paid about 300 NIS including postage for the one I bought here. It was the only one that store had at that time. Since the dongle is managed by asterisk, you can send an SMS using all of the asterisk functions, or by the shell command asterisk -rx dongle sms dongle name number message. You can also query its status, the status of the connection, and load and unload the module with asterisk commands. Only slightly related, I found that my unlimited SMS plan only covers SMSs to Israeli phones. It's about 1/2 a shequel to SMS overseas, even to numbers that include unlimited calls. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Wireless USB dongle
Michael Shiloh wrote: do you know what the chipset and driver is? The Chinese one is an RTL8191S. The EdiMax RTL8187ZSE. Both work fine out of the box on Ubuntu 12.04. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Wireless USB dongle
Mordechai Behar wrote: Hi Can anybody recommend a wireless USB dongle that will work with minimum fuss on Linux? Specifically KDE running on Mageia 2 (kernel 3.3.8). Where to buy it and how much it should cost? Does it work well? Thanks. If you are not in a rush, eBay item 320924766094. $10 including postage. They include a 6dbi antenna, which extends the range, and gives you more flexibility in positioning it. If you are: http://www.bug.co.il/prodtxt.asp?id=11235 Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: “In Technology Wars, Using the Patent as a Sword” - New York Times Feature
Shlomi Fish wrote: “Pearl” was chosen after the Parable of the Pearl from the Gospel of Matthews: If we are being pedantic, it's The Gospel of Matthew, or Matthew's Gospel. There was only one of them. (Matthew or gospel). Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: “In Technology Wars, Using the Patent as a Sword” - New York Times Feature
Shlomi Fish wrote: One proponent of software patents on this list is Geoffrey, who claims it helped protect some obscure startups against people copying their ideas. However, given the huge and increasing spending on patent litigation, the problem of patent trolls and the fact that “In particular, between 1987 and 1994 , software patents issuance rose 195%, yet real company funded RD fell by 21% in these (software) industries while rising by 25% in industries in general.” (see http://www.dwheeler.com/innovation/innovation.html ). Just to amplify that fact, the cost of the computer I used in 1979 to do operating system development was about $5 million dollars. It was a dual processor system and on Sunday mornings, I got one of the processors to myself if I needed it. This was back in the days when you single stepped an operating system by pushing a button on the console. By 1989, a similar system was about $250,000. By 1994, everyone was doing their development on SUN computers at $10,000 each, or developing for Windows or BSD on 486 and pentium computers, which sold for $2,000. So the cost of development shifted from hardware in the 1970's to salaries in the 1990's. During which time the salaries in dollars (not adjusted) doubled. Note that in 1979 I did my software development in BAL and PL/I until around 1991 or 1992, and from there on in C and later in PERL. So I say that he is wrong, and there was much more innovation and therefore more patent applications because the cost of software development plummeted. It even went farther down as cheap markets, e.g. Israel, India and China opened up. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ???In Technology Wars, Using the Patent as a Sword??? - New York Times Feature
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/google-closes-12-5-billion-deal-to-buy-motorola-mobility/ | (last visited May 24, 2012). Google has since said that of the $12.5B, $5.5 were | for patents, which is still a staggering sum. No, it's not. It's actually a meager sum when you consider that they bought more than 17,000 active and 7,500 pending patents. Google calculator tells me that's $265,000 for each patent, which is pretty cheap considering it supposed to cover the costs of the developers, patent fees, lawyers, etc. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician. (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Bphone Asterisk Hack?
Anyone know of a way to get Asterisk to use BEZEQ's BPhone? I do not have an android or iOS device. I need to keep a real BEZEQ landline, but having it on my asterisk system would be really helpful. I know about FXO cards, but the days of $10 ones are long gone. The only ones I could find were well over $100. :-( TIA. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: mobile service providers updates
On 8/7/12 3:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I figured I'd submit an update to the service providers database[1]. From a quick search (using e.g. [2] and [3]) I got the following. Any comments and fixes before I submit it? + provider + nameGolanTelecomm/name + gsm + network-id mcc=425 mnc=03/ + apn value=internet.golantelecomm.net.il + plan type=postpaid/ + usage type=internet/ + name3G/name + usernamepcl@3g/username + passwordpcl/password + /apn + /gsm + /provider Golan requires you to dial *99# but it is not in the instructions on the web site. I sent them an email in the early days when they were swamped, and AFAIK, it was never updated. I have not used a username nor password. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: sms via icq with the new mobile companies
On 8/6/12 10:39 AM, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Aug 05, 2012, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote about Re: sms via icq with the new mobile companies: So not only check your bill carefully, but before you start sending lots of free SMSs, make sure it does not cost you to receive them. In Israel, you *do not* pay for incoming SMSs - it is the sender that pays for them. Sorry, that's wrong. Until recently you paid for incoming SMSs too. There was a big stink about it a few years ago because people with kosher cell phones were still charged for them, although they were never delivered. If you had a plan from before then you were charged. I found that out the hard (expensive) way. Since we sent and received less than 10 SMSs a month, it never occurred to me to change the plan and I forgot about it until my son started dating a girl with no internet coverage at home. After we put a stop to their calling, they sent hundreds of SMSs through a free site. It wasn't until a month later that I was reminded of the plan we had. They are no longer dating, and his new girlfriend has internet at home, and my son has an all you can eat airtime and SMS plan now. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: sms via icq with the new mobile companies
Yes, they have an agreement. See http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3828098,00.html 1. That article is 2 and 1/2 years old. A lot may have changed since then. 2. Rami Levi just renegotiated their contract with Pelephone, it was about to expire in late June or early July and they were trying to make a deal with Orange. They ended up staying with Pelephone. 3. Until we signed up for an unlimited plan with Orange, we were paying 50ag for incoming messages. Since we rarely text it was not an issue (it did not add significantly to our bill) until my son ran up a 500 NIS phone bill calling his girlfriend and was told to cut it out. He found a Hebrew site that sends free SMSs and ran up another 400 NIS in SMS charges before we got the next bill. So not only check your bill carefully, but before you start sending lots of free SMSs, make sure it does not cost you to receive them. Not that it matters much, but I believe if you have a Huawei USB modem on your asterisk system, you can send an SMS with it. I use it to make calls but have never gone to the effort of figuring out how to send an SMS. If I remember correctly there is a similar channel driver for some models of Nokia phones, connected via USB or Bluetooth. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: alcatel X220
On 7/29/12 11:57 AM, Shimon Panfil wrote: Hi folks, does anybody have 1st hand experience with cellcom usb modem (alcatel x220) on linux? How hard should one work to make it work on e.g. centos 6.3? I know this does not answer your question, but I have had good luck with UBUNTU 12.04 and two different ZTE and two different Hauwei ones. (a total of 4). In each case, the wireless connection manager found the stick, and offered me a choice of carrier. It then connected with no trouble at all. If I were going to buy a new one, I would buy an Hauwei ($50 on eBay) because if you play around with asterisk, you can make calls on it too. If you are going to use it on Golan, their instructions are wrong. The AIN is correct, but you have to dial *99# to get it to connect. You also have to go to the settings web page for your account and turn on internet access. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Chromebook 3G in Israel.
Does anyone have or know about the Chromebooks? Does the 3G model work in Israel? The ones Amazon sells include a contract with Verizon, which is CDMA and not GSM, so it looks like they don't. Anyone know for sure? Does the operating system support a netstick? (USB cellular modem). Ubuntu does and has for almost 4 years, but Google may have left the drivers out. Is there a way to find out? Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cell net use at home
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:08:18AM +0200, sammy ominsky wrote: As a follow-up to Geoff's post the other day about using one of the cell providers' offerings for home internet access, I thought I'd post this device... Thanks, I was wondering if there was such a thing. I was going to ask, but never got a round to it. :-) http://www.option.com/en/products/products/wireless-routers/x1/about/#start A cell-to-wifi/ethernet router. I'd buy one if they were available. I wonder how long until an Israel cell provider offers one? http://www.betelecom.co.il/?page_id=8 Anyone want to call and see if they actually sell them? I wonder if one can hack a WiFi router with a custom linux distro to do it, had a USB port? Is there such a thing as a Linksys newer version of the WRT54GL with a USB port? Also, the Cellcom pricing Geoff mentioned is no longer the same. They have 3 modems available, with the price folded into the service cost. 2 of them are 129/month and the third is 139, including service and modem. They now require an 18-month contract, and the small print says traffic is unlimited from a mobile computer. Ok, does that mobile computer have to be moving? Can I get a cheap laptop and sit it on a shelf? I'm not sure they'd be happy with me, running bittorrent 24/7 :) I've given up on bittorrent 24/7. I now get most of what I did on bit torrent via streaming video, which I'm sure puts a bigger load on the connection. What I do download is software distros, which can be fairly large (I go for the DVD ROM versions). Note the Orange deal I had mentioned was for LANDLINE ISP service and VoIP phone service over that landline connection. If it had included minutes you could share with your cell phone, it would be a real bargain, but it's not. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cell net use at home
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:20:39PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I just bought a D-Link DIR-320: 300 NIS, Wifi, USB printer server, runs all the Linux firmware. I'm so happy that I made it a cake. What kind? More importantly, where did you buy it? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cell net use at home
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:06:32PM +0200, sammy ominsky wrote: But for streaming video you have to be sitting at the computer! I have files I can put on a USB key and plug into the DVD player connected tot he TV in the public areas of the house instead of inviting everyone into my office :) Much preferred for me. The family stuff gets torrented and played on a computer connected to my living room TV. The kids have a USB capable DVD player (140NIS at Home Depot) but have so far not asked for anything put on a USB stick, nor have they done it on their own. What I would love to find is a way of playing live streaming Animal Planet and Discovery SCIENCE now that YES has dropped them. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cell net use at home
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:36:10PM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: But for streaming video you have to be sitting at the computer! I have files I can put on a USB key and plug into the DVD player connected tot he TV in the public areas of the house instead of inviting everyone into my office :) Much preferred for me. Just to amplify that, the things I watch, I can't watch with my kids around. They won't sit still for dialog and want me to change the channel, make them something to eat, etc. The only way I can watch them if they are home, is on the computer, with a set of headphones and a frequent turn it down to the one in the living room. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Cell net use at home
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:15:37PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Imaginary chocolate. The daughter did the imaginary mixing and imaginary baking, to be honest. Sounds, good, although I prefer real ones. :-) More importantly, where did you buy it? http://www.logicpc.co.il/heb/itdetail.aspx?icom=13139 Ok, thanks. Actually, a week after I bought the thing we changed from Hot cables to Bezeq ADSL which includes a wireless modem/router so the only benefit I get from the D-Link is the print server. If someone in Haifa wants to save 50 NIS I'll let it go for 250 NIS. I haven't touched the firmware yet (still D-Link original) as it fits my needs. I'd go for it but I'm in Jerusalem. Anyone on the list willing to deliver it? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily YES)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:17:35PM +0200, Erez D wrote: hi After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the world, (using linux of course) I was think of giving a presentation of sattelite TV and linux do you think people will be interested ? If it were in English and in Jerusalem. If it was How to receive sattelite TV, what you get, and how to use Linux to get it, you would have a lot more people come. There is a big market here for private satellite dishes, unfortunately it is served by people who sell receivers that download the decryption codes over the Internet (signal piracy). Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:14:02PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, there is a solution. You can download the U3 removal tool from the sandisk web site and run it (Windows only, I'm afraid, but I managed to get it to work from Virtual box by connecting the DOK directly to the windows machine). Once removed, Linux starts treating the device as a normal Disk on Key as well. Much recommended. Can you just mount the raw device and reformat it? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:42:07PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: The problem is, what is a noob question? If I've been running Linux since 2001 (and I have- Red Hat 7,1 with KDE 2) but I still don't know how to compile a kernel (and I don't), then am I a noob? If I install Kubuntu for a friend and he wants to write a driver for his home made serial sharks-wth-frickin-lasers controller is he a noob? Compiling a Kernel was a new thing in 1995, when I started doing it. Now it's usually not necessary for the average user to do, and IMHO saying that you had to do it to access a device would scare away the average new user. As for writing a driver, it's not a noob thing, it's not even an expert thing. I expect that the number of people who have even read a driver's source code on this list could be counted on the fingers of one hand. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily YES)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0200, Erez D wrote: I live in tel aviv, and currently work in herzeliya so it will probably be herzlinux/telux about english, that ok with me, but depends on the audiance. (the presentation will be in english anyway) Oh well. :-( This is a too-long of title, but it is covered. (along with any other practical/technical issue. again depending on the audiance requests) My point, which I did not specificaly say, is that IMHO a lot more people are interested in the subject than are interested in Linux. The short title, with Linux in it, might reduce the number of attendees. yeah, i know. there are also FTA (Free To Air) channels, and one can buy legal-subscriptions from parties other than yes. I'll cover that also. I know about FTA, where does one find out about the legal subscriptions? (maybe you can post your slides/notes/video) Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Netvision: The early-disconnect fees! 40 NIS * 11 months = 800 NIS fees!
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:42:10PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: The problem in Israel is that there only about two(?) real options for home users, aren't there? I want to preface this with I have been a happy customer of Netvision since the day IBM stopped accepting Israeli credit cards, around the year 2000. I also want to preface this with IMHO BBL is the scum of the earth, part of the BEZEQ, BBL, Pelephone trio who threatens you with jail time if you don't agree to their bills. The two for landlines I know of are QOS (www.qos.co.il) who is the consumer division of BYNET. I don't know more about them than they exist. The other is Orange. Orange has a deal where you provide your own line (aDSL/cable), they provide a router, 2.5m download speed ISP service and a VoIP line with 600 minutes a month to all Israeli phones for 139 NIS. IMHO it's not a good deal unless you make lots of calls to cell phones. If you a home phone switch and can route cellular calls via it, you could save a lot of money, routing your other calls to a cheaper alternative. Cell-Com has a deal for 130 NIS a month, including modem (18 month commitment) for cellular based, unlimited Internet access. It's designed for laptops, but if you can figure out how to use it with a home network, it would be a good alternative. People using it say they get better than 2.5m download speeds. Orange has a similar, cheaper deal, 80 NIS a month, with a 5 GB limit. There is a 36 month payout on the modem (20 NIS a month) and no commitment on the service (60 NIS a month). Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Netvision: The early-disconnect fees! 40 NIS * 11 months = 800 NIS fees!
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 02:05:53PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Actually, I think that I'll just post a message about his at every faculty and bus stop in the Technion. Very influential people go there. It is my responsibility to let them know. Since the new consumer protection law went into effect Jan 1, you may have new legal rights. IMHO you should call/fax/email the CEO of Netvision. Stop dealing with flunkies. Maybe the new government will have a communications minister who cares about such things, until then a complaint to them still may do something. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Netvision: The early-disconnect fees! 40 NIS * 11 months = 800 NIS fees!
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 03:18:58PM +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote: I will start with thanking you for giving the other alternative - I believe though that those are not very good alternatives, as you stated they mainly talk about phone oriented services, rather than Internet oriented services - I didn't see any mentioning of HOT aren't they a good alternative (never tried them)? Thank you. I was commenting on BBL because of the dealings I have had with them to be blunt, it took me a year of back and forth between me, my lawyer, the City of Jerusalem Consumer Advocate and others to resolve a billing dispute that ended up with them accepting a payment plan they offered at the beginning of a phone call and refused to accept by the end. In plain English IMHO they are not viable service providers. The same with Pelephone, I had to threaten Roy Disney, who was a partial owner of them at the time with a lawsuit because they decided to charge me 1300 NIS for a phone, which had nothing (blank space) in the contract. If I had not worked for a major news agency at the time, and used my work email, he probably would have ignored me too, like the CEO, etc. In the process my bank canceled my credit card because I kept charging the phone to it, although they told me they would not. When it was all resolved I canceled my accounts with them. They continued to charge my horat keva for one phone and never sent me a bill. When I stopped working and the account the payments came out of stopped paying them, they ignored me. Four years later they threatened to sue me. Since I am disabled and still out of work, it was easier to pay them the 233 NIS than go to court in Tel Aviv. So, IMHO BBL and Pelephone are not viable alternatives, no matter what people say about them. That's why I said that. I then went on to describe the other alternatives. What bothers me is the fact that you have stated that BBL are scum of the earth and Netvision is the greatest. I also never said Netvision was the greatest. I just said that I had no trouble with them. Did I actually say scum? I may think that, put I generally don't actually call them that in public. Speaking of being bothered, was this necessary to send this publicly? What did you expect to achieve? Dotan is not going to change his mind, I'm not going to change mine, and a request for a clarification could have been worded in a way which would reflect better upon you to a future customer googling you. My experiences with both are well documented on public lists, so there is no reason to hide them. Someone is not going to read this later and have it affect their opinion of me. This kind of comment is redundant, as Dotan didn't try to convince you to move, he just stated what he thinks. When you write the opposite from him, you are just degrading what he is saying, and it sounds like you are trying to protect your opinion, but again Dotan didn't say Geoffrey thinks otherwise... what a fool, he just stated how unhappy he is, it is his right. No, not at all. I think he is right to complain, and if Netvision treated him that way, he should complain. I also in another email offered some suggestions on IMHO how to deal with them. I'm sorry you missed my point, but it was that there are plenty of alternatives, but in my experience BBL and Pelephone are not viable ones. Orange, Cell-Com, QOS, 012, Netvision are. I've mentioned HOT in several emails in the last few months. They went from no outages for months, to several a week, with one or two a month lasting for several hours. Remmeber the whole thread on redundant multiple connections via different ISP and infrastructure providers? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: No noobs?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:09:57AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Can the lists be merged? This list is low enough traffic that doubling it should not be a problem, and the separation of noobs and gurus means that few gurus see the noobs posts, and they never get the help that they need. IMHO they should stay that way. I don't want to add more emails I'm going to ignore to my life. If the person writing the question writes in Hebrew it does not belong here, and if they can write it in English there are lots of better places for them to ask. The worst case I can see is someone asking, quite seriously, which distro should I use?, which will start another distro war and turn them off from the list in specific and Linux in general. Besides, do you want to subject noobs to our discussions. Some of them do get out of hand. :-) If you want to answer linux noob questions, I suggest you subscribe to that list and help out. I don't, I prefer to spend my online time helping new and prospective olim, so I don't. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 09:21:11AM +0200, Shahar Dag wrote: - give an easy was for advanced users to select which questions to answer without having to subscribe to gnubies-il. this may help make Linux more popular among new users Seriously, will it? There are times that reading this list makes Windows/XP seem a lot easier to use. We tend to concentrate on the things that DON'T WORK on Linux (and how to fix them), most of which will scare off new users. Although this email is being written in MicroEmacs called by Mutt, on a Linux system, I don't like Linux desktops. The actual computer I'm sitting at is a dual boot XP and a BSD variant (because I like the user interface). To be honest, it has XP because it came with it, and I occasionaly have to do things with it that can not be done anywhere else. I don't think I've booted it in well over a week, but it is there. I'm not sure that explaining that to a new user is really going to inspire confidence, no matter who nicely it is put. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Rotal Seimens Router Firmware.
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:39:04PM +, Moshe Brace using Yahoo wrote: Where do we find this upgrade? I'm on the Israel Mac user's list. Someone there found it, and put it the files section. I think he got it from BEZEQ. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Rotal Seimens Router Firmware.
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 06:36:32PM +, Moshe Brace using Yahoo wrote: shavuah tov,I talked in shool with a Bezeq technician and he says it's on their site under support. However, he says use with great caution. If the Router works OK leave well alone. It is a procedure like flashing the Bios - do with caution. It went on perfectly fine. The big caution is that if you do it over WIFI, there is a big chance that it will fail and leave you stuck. If you do it over a wired connection, you should be ok. If it fails you will have a paperweight, so they don't want you to do it and then have to send someone out with a new router. Note that when I did it, I found my WIFI password changed. :-( I don't actually have an aDSL line, so I can't tell you if it affected things. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ??????????: ??????????????
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:06:56PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Thanks, Moshe, but my problem is not low speeds, but rather disconnects. If you have the Rotal/Seimens router that Bezeq gives out, there is a firmware upgrade for it. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:04:07PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I have a Nokia E71 with a built-in SIP client which I'd like to connect to this thing. The easiest way to test it is to use a computer with a SIP client. Then you have access to network debugging tools, etc. From Windows and Mac I prefer X-Lite which is free as in beer, not open source. http://www.counterpath.net/x-lite.htmlactive=4 There are plenty of SIP clients for Linux. I'd like to have Israeli, a Brazilian and possibly temporarily an Australian number which will ring on my phone. Anything beyond about $5/month makes this possibly uneconomical, as for the long term I don't spend that much on international calls and Skypeout subscription can provide unlimited calls for 5 euro/month (for minimum of three months). (We have 4000 free Skype minutes from our mobiles so Skypeout is very convenient to call from wherever we are). Skype is a cheap, but IMHO not very good alternative. From my experience it's not consistent. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's unusable, often it is just ok. Considering their price $6 (US) or $13 (US) with more countries it's a good deal, especially because they are up front on what too much is. Last I checked there was no SkypeIn from Israel, although it is now one of their unlimited SkypeOut countries. Although I expect that most of the people reading this are too young to remember satellite long distance calls, most of the time, it's better than they were. If you make a lot of calls to Israeli cell phones, you might want to check out Orange's deal. It's 600 minutes a month of outgoing calls to any number in Israel, plus the ISP side of a 2.5m line for 139 NIS. Additional minutes are 29ag, which is the cheapest I've seen to a cell phone, but awfully high to a landline. I don't know if they would let you take it and just use time with your own IP PBX, or if you would have to add your own system after their box. Since if I remember correctly, you don't live here, you would be in effect buying a family member an internet connection. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: how to MD5 sum a DVD without copying it.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:47:30PM +0200, Michael Vasiliev wrote: MD5 on the device file won't work. But this works: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm Thanks, I'll look at it. Well, it sort of worked. It pointed out any read errors, but it did give me a different MD5 sum. So I was able to tell that the copies I burned were identical. but not that they matched the original. For those that don't know, some CD and DVD drives have trouble writting a few specific bit patterns. Look up weak sectors for more information. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
how to MD5 sum a DVD without copying it.
Hi, I want to make an MD5 checksum of a DVD ROM to verify that it was burned properly. Is there a way to do this without making an ISO file from it? While I obivously have to read it, I don't want to do anything with the data other than calculate the checksum. Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:39PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: In your case, 200ms round trip time, assuming a symmetric distribution, of delay (but mind you that the internet isn't really symmetrical...) is 100ms one way delay so this is not excellent but not really bad either. In theory, at least, you shouldn't be able to notice this delay in conversation. Since a VoIP conversation is two way, even if the latency is not symetrical, one side or the other will experience the higher of the two sides. So while peak latency would be better a metric, IMHO ping time is a decent average. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to claim they are not, the burden of proof is on them, not you. Oh, so I could send out email for Fred's Open Source Consulting, munge the headers to look like him and put him out of business. In any case, it should be fairly easy to prove. Just call the number and appear to be an interested customer. How do you present that in court? Does Israel allow recorded phone converstations without the other side being aware of it? What would you say? I got your email and want to buy ? Would anyone in their right mind say we did not send you an email, it must have been someone else and possibly lose the sale? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Overzealous RBL blocks entire bezeqint range.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:41:38AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: As much as I hate spam, I think this RBL is a tiny bit out of sync with the universal definition of sane. A mailing list I am on lost most of its membership because they have an anti-SPAM device called a baraccuda who used a metric called barracuda reputation to block Israeli email. I for example, use a connection on Netvision to send email using an authorized, encrypted connection to a server in the U.S. which forwards my email. DNS lookups for MX records resolve to that server, not my netvision connection. Sendmail logs the fact that it originates on my system and the barracuda followed the trail, and found that my mail originated from a cable modem pool in Netvision. According to Netvision, mail DIRECTLY from these IPs should be blocked, but mail from them via authorized servers should be allowed. I complained, using GMAIL, I could not even send email to complain, and it was fixed by the list provider. Then a new release would be autoloaded and it would start over again. By the third time everyone stopped posting to the list except for the few people on gmail and yahoo. :-( The list went from over 100 postings a day, to around 100 postings a month. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Identifying linux-il messages
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 05:55:09PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The last time the matter was seriously discussed (i.e. - before this time) the matter was put to a vote, and this (the current settings) came out as the preferred solution by the list members. How long ago was that? After all the official owner of this list, Harvey Stein, long ago (2001?) went back to New York, and has abandoned this list. I assume since then, someone else has taken over ownership, but I've never been sure whom. Personally, I have no objection to putting the matter up for a vote again. In the grand tradition of the Internet, me too. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:11:59AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per email. Does this only cover email from Israel, or can it be SPAM from Israeli companies sent from outside of Israeli? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: HOT ISP (Was: Orange as a landline ISP)
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 03:12:14PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a way to combine several usless at some times and not others connections to get a better service reliabilty and still not have to go with SIFRANET (fiber optic connection) and BYNET as an ISP? Here's another idea: connect to the neighbor's wireless! My only neighbor with a wireless network has the poor taste to use WPA. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: HOT ISP (Was: Orange as a landline ISP)
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 04:37:39AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: they are all worthless, it mostly depends on what exactly you need from the at the time. Is there a way to combine several usless at some times and not others connections to get a better service reliabilty and still not have to go with SIFRANET (fiber optic connection) and BYNET as an ISP? I think it would need a combination of automatic routing based on performance, so that the connection with the best performance to a site was used. Most of the time this could be static, but it would have to be dynamic enough to handle connection outages and slowdowns. It might even be enough to monitor a connection and if it fails, reroute everything to the other connection and reset it when it came back, but the purist in me prefers something dynamic. It's not even a question of the best performance I can get at any given momement from the proper routing, it's more just keeping things going when a failure occurs. They used to be short, now they are several hours or more. Geoff, -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:06:58AM +0200, Ori Idan wrote: It seems that the DoK solution is not good for me. The computer I am trying to install on is IBM ThinkPad X31 and it seems that it can't boot from DoK so although I have a working Ubuntu DoK I can not use it for my computer. Does anyone have any idea how can I install Ubuntu on this computer without a CD? The computer already has an old version of Debian running on it. Are you sure the DOK actually works? It may also be that the DOK does not work properly with the computer, I have had that problem, but that was a long time ago. Make sure it is directly connected to the computer, I have had trouble using a hub when booting from a DOK. I did a quick web search and found: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dpelleg/X31_freebsd.html For the purposes of installing, I think it is safe to assume it works the same with Linux as FreeBSD. The web page says: Straightforward, using an external USB CD-ROM. If you remember my post answering your question, I suggested that an external DVD drive would do. I repeat my offer, if you are in Jerusalem, you are welcome to come here with it. I have both a working Ubuntu DOK, and an external USB DVD drive. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: HOT ISP (Was: Orange as a landline ISP)
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:54:09AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I just left HOT after four years of suffering their constant outages (I had both internet and VOIP telephone). I went to, of all places, Bezeq and I've discovered that Bezeq has improved in the past few years. It is a few (less than ten) shekles more expensive, but so far the service had been terrific and they even included for me a 4-port wireless router built into the modem. I should also mention that the tech who came to my house has been a Bezeq tech for 14 years. It showed in the way he worked. HOT techs always look like they just graduated from Yossi's Technical Garden and when I ask them, they are usually in the field for less than a year. I understand that HOT is new and growing, but they just don't yet have the experience that Bezeq has. Thanks. When I finally called, a tech tested my modem and told me it was unreachable. The tech put me on hold and came back and told me it was a wide area outage. When it came back, he called me and we went through some diagnostics with my modem which had also become hosed. Since then (foo,foo,foo), it's working fine. I have the business class service because you could not get a decent upload speed without it when I upgraded last. I expect by now you can get better download and upload speeds with the regular service. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Orange as a landline ISP
I seriously considering Orange's offer of a combo package of some sort of box, cell phone air time and 2.5mbit Internet. From what I understand the Internet part is over your (not included) cable modem or aDSL line. Does anyone have it? Or have Orange as an ISP? Are they Linux friendly? I understand it's presented as some sort of router, but I have a combination of Linux, Windows and Mac and don't want to be told that in order to test their router I have to use a Windows computer, or worse than that, be told that their service is not linux compatible. My traffic is in order of priority VoIP, then streaming video, then web access then bit torrent. In order of traffic, it's backwards, with most being bit torrent, then streaming video, then http, with a small VoIP load. Right now I have a HOT modem and Netvision, which when it works it works very well, with no slowdowns, noticable traffic shaping, or limits. The Orange deal is a good one based soley on reducing my cell phone bill. If I can get decent Internet access on top of it, it's a big saving. It also happens to be down as I write this and has been for almost 6 hours. Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: The new linux-il - a few tips to get you (re)started
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:06:55PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Here is the situation as I see it: Reply to all: You respect each individual's preferences regarding how many copies they want to receive. Reply: You want to send a private reply, only to the sender (impossible when the list has reply to list) And the non-standard buttons Reply to sender: Only makes sense in order to override lists with the broken reply to list header. Reply to list: You force people like me to get only one copy against my wish, and you are proud of it. The problem with that is not everyone uses complicated mailers. I am using MUTT on a Linux system (this is a Linux list after) all, which is the same mailer, with improvements that I have been using since 1991 when I got my domain name and found out that UNIX mail would only put UUCP return paths. I only have two choices, reply to sender and reply to everyone which replies to everyone in the sender and CC headers. I think it is smart enough not to reply twice to someone who is in both, but that's as far as it goes. No, I have no intention of using a web mail interface, although I have access to a particularly good one, a graphic mailer, mail.app, outlook, outlook excess or anything else. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: The new linux-il - a few tips to get you (re)started
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:00:04PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: I prefer it over using reply to all because I can then easily scan my outbox and detect which messages I sent to the list. What bugs me is people who send emails to 4 or 5 lists and then if I reply to all, which normally gives a reply to the sender directly and one to the list, I get 3 or 4 bounce messages because I don't subscribe to those extra lists. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: digital TV cards
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:50:28PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I'm planning to move from HOT to YES which means I'll have to replace 3 analogue TV cards with digital cards. Does anyone on the list have good experience with a CHEAP digital TV card that works properly in Linux and YES? My existing cards are no-name saa 7130 (if I remember correctly) and work out-of-the-box in Mandriva. Why? YES's entire signals are encrypted, you have to user their decoder/receiver. If you want to watch/record 3 signals with YES, you will need three seperate receivers. The standard receivers support 16:9, but if you want HD, you have to rent another decoder (at 40 NIS a month). I looked at that almost 3 years ago and decided that a YES MAX was a better deal, augmented now with bit torrent and streaming video. YMMV. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: digital TV cards
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:44:44PM +0200, Erez D wrote: The ideal case for you is to use a dvb-s/dvb-s2 card, a card reader and a YES smart card. you will not need an STB (memir) for this, and you get the digital signal with no quality loss. you will also probably be able to watch/record multiple programs with one dvb-s card if they share frequencies (both myth and vdr support that). i am not a YES subscriber, and i have never done that with YES, but i think i read about people which have done this. AFAIK It won't work. YES uses NDS encryption, which is not supported by that type of hardware. There are companies that sell digital satellite packages to that do include encryption cards that allow you to provide your own hardware, but they don't sell to Israel. I don't know if YES program guides can be downloaded off of the Internet or not, the English ones can not. I don't know if there are legal issues here. but as i see it, you are not stealing if you have legit smart cards from YES. That's correct. But only with companies that let you use your own hardware. YES does not. BTW, if you want channels 1, 10,22,23,33 and 99, they may be available over the air as digital TV in April. I say may because when the Kenesset wanted to include channel 9 (Russian language Israeli commerical channel), both HOT and YES said they would go out of business if they did, they dropped it. Expect there to be legal challenges. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: digital TV cards
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:23:06PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Are you saying that I'm wrong in assuming that my existing analogue cards won't work with YES? YES. Well, actually probably. It depends upon the outputs the decoder box has the inputs the card has. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: digital TV cards
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 07:13:15AM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:23:06PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Are you saying that I'm wrong in assuming that my existing analogue cards won't work with YES? YES. Well, actually probably. It depends upon the outputs the decoder box has the inputs the card has. To amplify it, the analog cards I have have 1. RF (tuner) 2. Composite video (RCA jack for video) (one card) 3. S-Video (also accepts Composite video) The YES boxes I have have outputs: RF (channel 60, can be changed via menu) Composite (RCA). S-VIDEO (SCART). My YES MAX does not have an RF output. My HOT boxes have Composite and S-Video, but no RF. They do have an RF passthrough for the analog channels that are on the cable. This includes several stations of FM radio (galgalatz, kol hamusica, BBC) and Channels 1,2,10, FOX, Hot movies (only 1 channel), and lots of things I would never watch. Note that there is a new law coming into effect Jan 1, regulating contract length and cancelation, etc. If you sign up before then, you have to stick with the old rules. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
MSI Wind 100
I'm thinking of getting an MSI Wind 100. Does anyone one the list have one running Linux? I've done some research and found that Ubuntu runs on it. Any advice? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Daily Maily Spam
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:24:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I hate that format! Tbird and OOo _insist_ on using that format and it steers me wrong every time! Do American watches use a HH:SS:MM format?!? I have never heard of a middle-endian format being used in any other context! It's a left over from manual filing. In the days it was invented, business kept records by month. So the month was more important than the day. Note the date on the top line which came from YOUR email. Since we are being off topic, you should see people's faces when they see my analog 24 hour wrist watch. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFFTOPIC] date format rant (was: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Daily Maily Spam)
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:36:37PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: The Japanese system of -MM-DD is the best one. I personally use a modified variety (-MMM-DD which is not ambiguous) whenever I am free to set the date format. However for many years the Japanese used a dating system from the coronation of the current emperor. For all I know they still use it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for job
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:32:37AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Hi Hetz, other list members, From my vantage point on the market, it looks like we are in for a long period of declining job opportunities and declining income. The VC's are calling this a nuclear winter. The ones that still have money are more likely to invest in risky ventures because everything else is risky too. It may also be a good time to get small investors investing in seed startups as they need to hit it big to retire and the chances are greater than lottery tickets. :-) What I see is the big difference is that anyone who submits a plan to a VC is going to find that they submit it to far more due dilligence than they did before. Now not only do will you have to convince them that it's a good idea, you will find that every fact and every number gets checked. As for declining income, really skilled people who are good at marketing themselves will do well, and people who are not as skilled in either will not. I suggest that everyone who plans to look for a job in the near future look for Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influnce People, which has been out so long you can find a version out of copyright on the Internet, and buy a more recent edition in any Steimatsky's in either Hebrew or English. If the tax plan Obama promised during his campaign gets implemented, the US will have higher taxes than Israel. This will make Israel attractive again to US investors. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISPs
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:15:24PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: Thanks for the pointer. This could be useful though after a week away from my home 3G network and being mostly dependent either on 3G roaming (I'm still worried what the bill is going to be like) or non-free WiFi, it might be a lesser solution (it didn't help that a major family crisis overseas happened during that week which required us to call abroad almost every day). I don't know where you were, or where you were calling to, but often you can find free wifi by asking people if their neighbors have the Internet and asking them to let you use it. Also - I see in almost any petrol station abroad warnings about not using mobile phones in the station - due to danger of sparks from the phone igniting fuel fumes (I've seen this happen in some YouTube movies, not a nice sight). I can only guess that WiFi should be discouraged just the same. I think it was Mythbusters that tested it and found that it was a myth, but that does not mean you should try it on your own. Here's a windows only link, but I expect you could find it somewhere else in a more compatible form: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v228529bsahSjBA Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange cups problem
I have a system that started life as a redhat 7.2 system that I can not replace. It has been upgraded over the years and is currently running kernel 2.4.34., GCC is version 3.3. I have an old CUPS system set up on it 1.1.20, which has worked for many years. I recently got a new printer, a Samsung ML-1610. I have been able to get it to work with CUPS by installing the latest version of Ghostscript and the Splix driver. However, I get the error message in the log file media tray empty after every print job. This is a common problem which was fixed a long time ago, around release 1.2. I have tried to install from the tarball every later version of cups cups-1.2.12 cups-1.3.8 cups-1.3.9 cups-1.4b1 and although they otherwise seem to work, they will not detect my printer. In fact, it looks like they no longer have USB support. If I force it, for example with 1.4.b1 (or 1.3.9, or 1.3.8) using: ./configure --disable-ldap --enable-libusb Libusb is libusb-0.1.12 which seems to be the last version. I get the recurring message waiting for printer to become ready. The printer is online and ready before I start the CUPS scheduler. I have searched the CUPS forums and done general web searches, and found nothing. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cellular modems
Someone alluded to there being a problem with using a cellular modem for SIP. If anyone has experience with the following I would appreciate information. I know Cell-Com has an unlimited plan for around 130 NIS including the modem, and Orange has one capped at 5 for around 80 NIS including the modem. If you know about Orange, is 5 what? Is it gigabits or gigabytes? What happens when you go over? Is there a plan with a much higher limit? For either of them, can you use SIP? SKYPE? SSH? If so is there anything special that has to be done to use them? What speed can someone expect? And of course, which cellular modems are supported by Linux and at what speeds? Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cellular modems
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 07:58:49PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I wrote a post in my blog about those packages, it's here: http://benhamo.org/wp/?p=626 (it's in hebrew) Thanks, I can't really understand the text, but I can read the table. As for ssh, skype etc.. I really don't know. I haven't checked about it. It's important because most of the people who ask questions on the lists I am on are people who are making aliyah, or coming here on a pilot trip (looking around in preperation for aliyah), have little or no Hebrew, and want to run those applications. Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galgalatz from Linux/Firefox?
Is there a Galalatz stream that can be heard from Linux? I'd prefer just a url I can feed into mplayer, but a URL that works with FireFox would be ok? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Crossover
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 06:54:22AM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Codeweavers is for today only, giving away a version of Crossover for free. They changed the procedure. It looks like to me that if you asked for a serial number before or downloaded the trial verson, you have to ask for one again and download the full version. :-( Note the new URL: http://down.codeweavers.com/ But, what the heck, it's free. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISPs
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: We're just trying Netvision and all seems fine except FtP downloading is painfully slow (passive mode makes no difference) and FTP uploading is not what it should be. It's not due to anything Netvision does. I get full upload speed and full download speed. I have a 5m down/256k up connection from HOT's business office. Of course 256k up is fairly easy to saturate. Downloads vary wildly from site to site. I have even gotten combined downloads of over 400k bytes per second on bit torrent, but usually have it limited to 300k down / 5k up so that I don't get lynched by the rest of my family who wants to use the Internet. We've not tried Barak yet (even though Netvision and Barak have merged, they seem to still use different infrastructure). I have not seen that at all. Sometimes I am connected via a Netvision IP and sometimes via a Barak one. I had a problem with my VoIP box dropping connection, and restarted my pptp session often for a while. It turned out to be a bug in the Linux system I use for a router, and nothing Netvision did. The first day or so after the merger they combined DNS servers, but I actually don't use them. Are there any other ISPs? Our Bezeq contract is up on Thursday so this is a bit urgent. BYNET. I understand they have a home division www.qos.co.il. Orange and Cell-Com both have good performance for their cellular USB modems. Orange is cheaper but capped at 5g per month. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable)
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:20:22PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Now I'm confused. Firstly, I certainly don't expect to plug the HOT modem into the ADSL plug. As I already wrote (see quote above), I thought I could plug the HOT modem into one of the ethernet ports. I may be missing something, but I don't understand why you say I wouldn't be able to use the NAT facility of the router. If the HOT modem plugs into one ethernet port and several computers use the rest of the ethernet ports on the router, why would the router not funtion. Of course it wouldn't be connecteted to the internet directly, but it would be connected to the HOT modem. Am I completely wrong aout this being possible? It depends. If the WAN connection is actually to an aDSL PAD (looks like a telephone jack), then it won't work. If it is an ethernet port then it will. The usual routers only have one ethernet port on the LAN side, not 4. It is connected to an internal 5 port hub, so you get 4 LAN ports to plug things into, but the router part only sees one port. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable)
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:23:23AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I have lots of problems with Hot disconnecting and very high latency. Hot blames Nezeq Beinleimi, Nezek blames Hot. I personally believe that Nezeq is to blame for the latency, but Hot is to blame for the _hours_ of downtime every month. Not always. The way to tell is to use a tunnel from a Linux machine. If it gets an IP address of 172. something then your cable modem has a signal to HOT and it is likely to be your ISP or the connection from HOT to it. If it gets an IP address of 192. or 10. then it is always HOT. If you keep track of ping times from your computer to the gateway host versus something on the other side of the tunnel, e.g. DNS, you can track where the problem lies. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: router compatibility (was Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable))
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:47:39AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: OK - so assuming I can't use the router I bought fom Bezeq after moving to HOT, can anyone say if they've had any Linux experience (good or bad) using the cheap routers sold by www.ivory.co.il? The two models they have are: 1 - wr541G for 148 shekel (or 180 shekels with an additional USB dongle - WN321G) 2 - wr641G for 195 shekel (or 270 shekels with an additional USB dongle - WN620G) Note that they are some off brand, so you need to look them up. The model numbers are similar to Linksys ones, but they are not. The thing to do is to download the manual for them and look at the setup instructions for the tunneling protocol you will be using, probably L2TP. In order to work with HOT, you need to be able to specify on the WAN side: IP Address* NetMask* IP gateway* DNS servers* Tunneling host aka Gateway The ones marked with an asterisk are usually provided by DHCP. The problem with some routers is that they are programed assuming that the IP gateway and the tunneling gateway are the same IP address. This is common in the US and the EU. Personally, since you are doing this for the first time, I would buy an EdiMax router from Office Depot or Bug, depending upon what they have because you can return them if you can't get them to work, and EdiMax AFAIK has phone support. I've never had to return anything they have made, but a friend did and when they took it back to Bug for a replacment, the person in the store called them for him. D-Link also makes good stuff. I had a D-Link wireless router which worked fine until the power unit burnt out then I traded it for a Linksys access point. The router, last I heard is still running fine, although it made yeridah. A friend bought one at Office Depot and I hooked it up for her to aDSL, and it took about 2 minutes to configure. Most of the time was choosing the WiFi passwords. If you can find one at what you consider a reasonable price, buy a Linksys WRTG-54L, which is the model that can run Linux. You can use it out of the box, and if you want to get creative, run Tomato on it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable)
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:41:48PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned (which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using normal IP-over-Ethernet to connect to the Internet (with somewhat lower MTU). You are a very lucky person. I have heard many complaints using MPLS, some from people on this list who are welcome to post them if they want. The complaints come fro problems with HOT not forwarding ALL of the packets, especially UDP, all of the time. They also don't always forward certain TCP ports and protocols. One person on this list fought it and was told they only claim to forward HTTP. Most of the ISP's won't give it to you now anyway. I use a custom Linux system as a router, which uses an L2TP tunnel and it works fine. If I had to do it again, I would not, I would use a small external router. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable)
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:43:55AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: easier to manage and use /etc/hosts), I added the MAC addresses of all machines to the reserved IP address list and specified what IP to give each. This gives me 2 advantages: 1 - constant IPs on the network 2 - If needed, I can add an unknown computer (for example, if I have a guest who wants to connect) and DHCP does the rest with no additional setup. I was referring to MPLS, which someone mistakenly called DHCP, from HOT. HOT always uses DHCP to give your router an address and route information, whether you use DHCP on your side is up to you. As mentioned before, I bought the router from Bezeq, so it should be OK. It's a Siemens SL2-141) Don't know, anyone else? I don't know what lots of P2P means, but I don't do much and haven't noticed any problems with ADSL, so I assume there would be no change with HOT (or am I wrong?) I don't know either. If it works with the router you are using now, and the router stays the same, then there should be no problem. If I wasn't clear, I'm talking about a home network (and my current connection is ADSL 1.5), so the added cost is probably not justified (especially since the HOT triple deal is one of the reasons I'm considering the move) - in addition to the fact that Bezeq seriously pissed me off recently, but that's a story for another day :-) Ok, I was just suggesting it if you wanted better support than the usual customer. As for the phone deal, it's ok, but there are better and cheaper deals depending on what call quality you want, and where you want to call. To replace a BEZEQ line, it's a good deal and does not use their infrastructure. The 012 BEZEQ replacement deal isn't really, they still install an aDSL line and router, but you can't use them. Nor do you pay for them. For example, the VoIP company I use provides a US incoming number, an Israeli incoming number, unlimited (which really means 2500 minutes a month total) calls to US/Canada and landlines some other places, including Israel for around $40 a month. They have Israeli service and support, and are very well connected to Netvision/013. I don't know about others, but I have been told they are well connected to the other ISP's too. Their CTO is a friend of mine and a lurker on this list. He's willing to arrange custom deals if you make more calls, want incoming numbers in other countries and so on. Email me off list and I'll forward it to him, to avoid this becoming a commercial. If you have such calling needs it's a good deal, if all you want is to make a few calls a month or get a few incoming ones, it's not. In that case I suggest you get an Orange Big Talk SIM, a cheap used phone and leave it at home. SKYPE has a deal for $6 a month for up to 10,000 minutes to one country and $12 for the world (30 countries), but it's SKYPE, which to me makes it undesirable due to call quality. Note the unlimited call packages have one included incoming number, but NOT in Israel and you have to take the package first and then get the number. Someone I know did know about the package and is paying the same price for a US incoming number with no included calls as the entire package. She has to wait what she pre-paid to expire before switching. BTW, a posting to a local Anglo mailing list about MagicJack turned out to be astroturfing. When I wrote the guy who posted it, it turned out he was in New York, never used the thing in Israel, had gotten a free unit and service and never read anything about it except from their web site. None of which was in his posting. :-( The whole thing also collapses if you want to send or receive faxes. AFAIK no one has ever been able to use a fax using VoIP over cable here, and HOT support told me it does not work when I called and asked for advice. It DOES work on a HOT voice line, it's not VoIP. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable)
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:03:25AM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: As for reliability, service and speed, the best thing to do is to call HOT and ask for their business internet sales office. They offer higher speeds, better reliabilty and they will come and fix problems a lot better and a lot quicker than a consumer connection. The only downfall besides the slightly higher price is that they will not let you combine a business class connection with basic cable and a voice line for a cheap price. Just to add some more to my post, I have a 5m down/256k up cable modem from Hot and use Netvision as my ISP. I have had several (5-10) outages in the last year, one big one in September where everything was down for half a day. I called HOT and they arranged to send a technican out in about two hours, but he called and said the problem was with a wide area and it was being worked on, so there was no need for him to come. It was, of course the morning my teenage son was home recovering from dental surgery and I heard no end of it. :-) Since then I do have a problem with VoIP. Using a Linksys PAP2 which uses outgoing port 5060 for connections, some times I get a tunnel from Netvision where it is blocked. Once I figured that out, I was able to change the port from 5060 to 5061 and it has worked fine ever since. I assume if I did not change the port, I would have to call Netvision and complain. It does not happen using a Windows or MacOS softphone, which use a different outgoing port. My VoIP provider is based in the US and uses Level3 as their ISP, so I get 160ms ping times with a rare peak of 180-190, which is well withing the 150ms latency limit. When I had Vonage, I could not ping them, so I don't have any stats, but after 6pm on Wednesday until Sunday morning it was useless. Skype computer to computer is fine in Israel, but Skypeout is IMHO better than Cell-Com was in 1996 when I made aliyah, but not as good as POTS. Skype computer to computer outside of Israel is too variable to guess. As for download speeds, I have my download speed capped at 4.5m for QOS reasons, and my bit torrent speed capped at 300k bytes per second. I often get download speeds over 200k, and occasionaly 400k bytes per second using FTP and HTTP, and see 300k total torrent download speeds. Sometimes I get less than 1k per second torrent speeds too, so it depends upon the torrent. I don't watch streaming video from within Israel, so I can't comment on it, but streaming video from the US and Asia work fine until about 6pm when they start to bog down. Anyone does decide to go to HOT and call their business office, please let me know what speeds they currently offer. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable)
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:20:58AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Thanks, but maybe my question wasn't clear enough. In the past, I did pptp and NAT on my Linux box and shared my internet connection over the entire network. Since I bought an ADSL router from Bezek, everything is literaly plug and play on all Linux and Windows machines. I have the router set up to provide internal IP addresses to each machine and absolutely no set is required when adding or upgrading a machine. It's so easy that I don't want to go back to the old way (administering the pptp and NAT on my machine). So my question is really, can I do the same with cable? Of course, I know I'd need to get a cable modem from HOT, but would it just plug into the router or what? Of course, the ADSL component of the router would be useless, but I'm assuming (and here I may be wrong) that I could still use the same router after plugging the cable modem into it. First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is hapening is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a pptp or more likely l2tp tunnel is IMHO worth it, although if you are at the edge of latency problems it will agrevate them. Your router probably will work with no changes, except that some routers sold for use in the US or EU won't. It's because the tunneling host and subnet gateway are always the same IP address there and they are different here. I simply can't guess without any information about which router you have, but a 250 NIS WiFi one you buy here will work if the old one won't. The biggest problem you will have is that the router does not have enough RAM for big routing tables, so if you do lots of P2P, it will have problems. As for reliability, service and speed, the best thing to do is to call HOT and ask for their business internet sales office. They offer higher speeds, better reliabilty and they will come and fix problems a lot better and a lot quicker than a consumer connection. The only downfall besides the slightly higher price is that they will not let you combine a business class connection with basic cable and a voice line for a cheap price. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connecting two Linux Desktops simultaneously to the Internet
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:47:57PM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: I'd use this thread to raise another issue (although it might have been nicer to start a new thread). This ECI 312+ is rather old - it's not sold (or given) anymore, as far as I know. But it runs Linux inside, and theoretically can do whatever you want - but as far as I could find out, ECI does not help you in any way - does not provide sources for their firmware, etc. Perhaps if enough people are interested (or at least determined ones), we can make them open up the device and have it as a nice young brother to the WRT54G (with only 2MB flash/8MB RAM). Would anyone be interested? I don't think they would be interested. As you said it's rather old and you can't get/they can't sell more of them. If they were to open them up, it would create a demand for them again, and they probably have no way of fulfilling the demand, supplying spare parts or support for them, etc. As a cheap router, there are lots of them sold new in the 250 NIS range if you shop around, can any of them be opened up? Do any of them have a direct aDSL connection, or are they all ethernet on the WAN side? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
