Re: Kernel Module?
Any one out there using an AOpen 32x12x48x CDRW? Can you please tell me what kernel module it uses? I installed that model drive last week, on a system running rh7.2 I didn't need to play with kernel modules at all. The only thing i did was insert the 'append=' line into /etc/lilo.conf and then run 'lilo' to update the boot loader as Ryurick has already mentioned. My cdwriter is connected as a slave on the secondary ide. image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 label=linux read-only root=/dev/hda3 append=hdd=ide-scsi Paul. You have to reserve the ide for the scsi module so add something like hdd=ide-scsi to your kernel boot params. This is crucial (I assume you use an IDE writer) otherwise it will be grabbed by the ide driver and you can't load the ide-scsi on it afterward. Then the rest should go along easily (sorry but I don't recall exactly from the top of my head and it may also be distro/kernel dependent, to some extent) There are plenty of HOWTO's around about cd writing.
Re: Fwd: licq
This is very good for backup purposes though. Saves hastling people on the contact list if you need to do a restore. On Thursday 23 May 2002 02:25, you wrote: I have used Licq for some time now. The only problem I have is when a new contact wants me to verify me as being listed on their contact list it doesnt seem to allow the verification. It is OK for me as the Licq doesnt seem to need verification and I can add as many ppl onto my list as I want with out even asking them! Nick E
Almost converted...
As you have all seen my questions on the mailings over the last couple of months, I thought I would hit the keys with a few thoughts. I have learnt heaps in the process of getting to where I am now, but could not have done it without the help from many of you. Unfortunately my computer learning over the last few years has been without any formal training but mainly by fumbling around GUIs. I believe that I am a typical power user who enjoys setting up and using the computer to do work for me. After starting my Linux excursion with RedHat 7.2 I am almost a complete convert on my desktop at home with RedHat 7.3 * My file sharing LAN is working with Samba * I use Ximian Evolution for mail etc., * X-CD-Roast for CD burning, (although it does not recognise the DVD drive as a reader in any of the burning programmes maybe my next call for help) * Playing videos and music files seem no problem in RH7.3, * OpenOffice.org1.0 seems as good as MS Office and files can be opened from or saved to MS Office format so no compatability problems * Not using GnuCash yet as it does not have the outstanding bills feature or ability to export to Money or Quicken, even though it can import QIF files (This is probably all that is stopping me from a complete switch). * Licq is running fine * My main point is that although I am now convinced that Linux can be a viable alternative as a desktop operating system (with good programmes), and am telling my friends about it, the growth of user numbers will not accelerate without concerted efforts to help newbies get over the setup hurdles. I sometimes wonder how the group regards my questions are they too trivial, is the group above me, do they mind etc. etc. I certainly appreciate the help and advice, even if some of it is definitely above me. If the gap is not bridged between the experts and people like me the growth of Linux acceptance will not be maximised. Thanks for all of the help and patience. Robert
Re: Almost converted...
Robert Fisher wrote: snip Well I've always believed there is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. I know it's old and hairy but if you don't ask, you don't learn. I am sure I speak for most here if I say that no one objects to answering even the most basic of queries. I'll even go as far as to say that some of the answers to these early 'what the...' questions are even useful to the more experienced user. Just my 3 cents... Adrian
Re: Almost converted...
Adrian Stacey wrote: I am sure I speak for most here if I say that no one objects to answering even the most basic of queries. I'll even go as far as to say that some of the answers to these early 'what the...' questions are even useful to the more experienced user. Indeed. If I see something asked a lot, I think: That needs fixing. On the odd occasion I've even submitted code patches to fix it! Vik :v) -- /\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . /\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign One of The Olliver Family \ / X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail http://olliver.family.gen.nzX / \ - NO MSWord docs in e-mail Public PGP key available there / \
Re: Almost converted...
Pleased that the group was of service. I hope you'll attend some meetings :-) Keep an eye on the list for notification. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stopping spam
I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some stage. Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting?? Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into this - Guy Matthew, any updates?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: stopping spam
Unfortunately not, Currently the only linux boxes I am running are at work, and while at work I don't seem to be able to drag myself away from work work. Guy. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2002 11:56 a.m. To: CLUG Subject: stopping spam I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some stage. Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting?? Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into this - Guy Matthew, any updates?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost converted...
Julian Carver wrote: Personally I really like new users with new (and old) questions. There are so many reasons: Well, I normally hate, 'me too' posts but this one deserves it :) Adrian
Re: Almost converted...
Given the speed of your reply, Nick, I wonder if steering my daughter toward studying for a law degree was a good idea... H... maybe it was vbg Adrian Nick Rout wrote: Well, I normally hate, 'me too' posts but this one deserves it :) Adrian me too (hell Adrian, you asked for that LOL)
Re: stopping spam
I've heard of it, but never used it. Can you give the list the skinny on how it interacts with the flow of mail? Does spamassassin sit before or after your MTA? or does it bolt on similar to a squid redirector? I'm specifically asking about SMTP received mail rather than pop/imap/fetchmail. On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 12:09, Drew Whittle wrote: I've been running it for a while, only had 1 or 2 false positives, a number of spam's that have escaped detection (but not that many). Last month spamassassin + razor trapped over 2,000 spams for me. It is definately worth spending the time setting up. :D On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 11:56, Nick Rout wrote: I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some stage. Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting?? Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into this - Guy Matthew, any updates?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good mailing list software?
Hi All.. I am after a good mailing list software to run under linux?. A cgi based one would be great. Any suggestion? The list has around 400 members and its does not need anything flash like html etc.. Regards Mahesh http://briefcase.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Briefcase - Save your important files online for easy access!
Re: stopping spam
I've been running it for a while, only had 1 or 2 false positives, a number of spam's that have escaped detection (but not that many). Last month spamassassin + razor trapped over 2,000 spams for me. It is definately worth spending the time setting up. :D On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 11:56, Nick Rout wrote: I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some stage. Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting?? Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into this - Guy Matthew, any updates?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stopping spam
Can you give the list the skinny on how it interacts with the flow of mail? Does spamassassin sit before or after your MTA? or does it bolt on similar to a squid redirector? I'm specifically asking about SMTP received mail rather than pop/imap/fetchmail. Both razor and spamassassin come after your smtp server (not forgetting of course that this will also catch your fetchmail retireved pop mail that is fed into your smtp server - at least my fetchmail does anyway. On my system both will be inoked from procmail which I have set as my local delivery agent (ie postfix smtp server feeds to procmail which delivers the mail, testing it on the way through). I have a procmail.global file and a procmail.username file for each user. procmail.global tests thru razor at present and if it finds a message is spam dumps it in my SPAM mailbox. If it passes then it goes on to procmail.nick and gets sorted into various bxes, one for each mailing list. When I get spamassassin working it will also be called from procmail. Hope that answers the question :-) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost converted...
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:36:00AM +1200, Zane Gilmore wrote: Most of us programmers/geeks love to expound our knowledge ;-) and we definitely need people who are not afraid of asking questions. Because there are often so many ways of solving a problem, all of us often will read answers from others and learn something new, no matter the level of expertise. The problem that tends to come up though, is that all the easy answers get answered and the complicated problems get ignored. This is a trend in mailing lists in general. I wish I knew an easy answer :) For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, without doing mass whois querys. Like for instance: % whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800 Will tell me that that AS number is in China. I'd like to be able to (say) block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance. I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out what IP subnets belong to which AS number. Now this is a challenge to see if anyone has any ideas :P Ben.
Re: Almost converted...
Ben Aitchison wrote: For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, without doing mass whois querys. Like for instance: % whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800 Will tell me that that AS number is in China. I'd like to be able to (say) block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance. I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out what IP subnets belong to which AS number. Heheh, that reminds me of when I wanted to find a way to determine which IP's were local (NZ) and which were international. After Waikato stopped issuing the router dumps, I gave up... :( Adrian
Re: stopping spam
*brain-throb* Okay - My system here is the firewall portforwards connections on port 25 to a linux box running exim. The linux box then sends the mail to the exchange server via smtp. Outbound mail goes back the same way. Since theres no local delivery - can I use spamassassin ? (the reason for the torturous path is to shield the exchange server against the nasty world, and to use some of the anti-spam features of exim as opposed to ms exchange's attitude of don't hurt me please) On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:14, Nick Rout wrote: Can you give the list the skinny on how it interacts with the flow of mail? Does spamassassin sit before or after your MTA? or does it bolt on similar to a squid redirector? I'm specifically asking about SMTP received mail rather than pop/imap/fetchmail. Both razor and spamassassin come after your smtp server (not forgetting of course that this will also catch your fetchmail retireved pop mail that is fed into your smtp server - at least my fetchmail does anyway. On my system both will be inoked from procmail which I have set as my local delivery agent (ie postfix smtp server feeds to procmail which delivers the mail, testing it on the way through). I have a procmail.global file and a procmail.username file for each user. procmail.global tests thru razor at present and if it finds a message is spam dumps it in my SPAM mailbox. If it passes then it goes on to procmail.nick and gets sorted into various bxes, one for each mailing list. When I get spamassassin working it will also be called from procmail.
Re: Almost converted...
Adrian Stacey wrote: Ben Aitchison wrote: For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, without doing mass whois querys. Like for instance: % whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800 Will tell me that that AS number is in China. I'd like to be able to (say) block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance. I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out what IP subnets belong to which AS number. Heheh, that reminds me of when I wanted to find a way to determine which IP's were local (NZ) and which were international. After Waikato stopped issuing the router dumps, I gave up... :( Here is a possible way. West coast of America [chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping www.ucla.edu PING www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130): icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=167.371 msec 64 bytes from www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=165.150 msec 64 bytes from www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=164.786 msec --- www.ucla.edu ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 164.786/165.769/167.371/1.142 ms Ping time over 150mS. East coast Australia [chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping www.unsw.edu.au PING cruise.comms.unsw.edu.au (149.171.96.60) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=56.191 msec 64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=109.962 msec 64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=77.938 msec 64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=92.440 msec 64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=4 ttl=242 time=82.979 msec --- cruise.comms.unsw.edu.au ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 56.191/83.902/109.962/17.642 ms Otago [chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping ftp.otago.ac.nz PING celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=49.633 msec 64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=47.135 msec 64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=45.394 msec 64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=46.660 msec --- celeborn.otago.ac.nz ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 45.394/47.205/49.633/1.554 ms Auckland [chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping ftp.auckland.ac.nz PING www2.auckland.ac.nz (130.216.191.125) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www2.auckland.ac.nz (130.216.191.125): icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 time=57.300 msec 64 bytes from www2.auckland.ac.nz (130.216.191.125): icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=30.635 msec --- www2.auckland.ac.nz ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 30.635/43.967/57.300/13.334 ms So: ~60mS in NZ; ~70mS overseas I know this is not perfect because there will be some NZ places on slower ping times, but for those ones, one could trace the route and see if it goes through one of the relatively few egress from NZ points. -- C.