Re: Kernel Module?

2002-05-22 Thread paul schulz

  Any one out there using an AOpen 32x12x48x CDRW?  Can you please tell me
  what kernel module it uses?

I installed that model drive last week, on a system running rh7.2
I didn't need to play with kernel modules at all. The only thing i did was 
insert the 'append=' line into /etc/lilo.conf and then run 'lilo' to update 
the boot loader as Ryurick has already mentioned.
My cdwriter is connected as a slave on the secondary ide.


image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda3
append=hdd=ide-scsi


Paul.


 You have to reserve the ide for the scsi module so add something like
 hdd=ide-scsi to your kernel boot params. This is crucial (I assume you
 use an IDE writer) otherwise it will be grabbed by the ide driver and you
 can't load the ide-scsi on it afterward.

 Then the rest should go along easily (sorry but I don't recall exactly
 from the top of my head and it may also be distro/kernel dependent, to
 some extent)

 There are plenty of HOWTO's around about cd writing.



Re: Fwd: licq

2002-05-22 Thread paul schulz

This is very good for backup purposes though. Saves hastling people on the 
contact list if you need to do a restore.

On Thursday 23 May 2002 02:25, you wrote:
 I have used Licq for some time now.  The only problem I have is when a new
 contact wants me to verify me as being listed on their contact list it
 doesnt seem to allow the verification.  It is OK for me as the Licq doesnt
 seem to need verification and I can add as many ppl onto my list as I want
 with out even asking them!

 Nick E



Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Robert Fisher


As you have all seen my questions on the mailings over the last couple
of months, I thought I would hit the keys with a few thoughts.

I have learnt heaps in the process of getting to where I am now, but
could not have done it without the help from many of you. Unfortunately
my computer learning over the last few years has been without any formal
training but mainly by fumbling around GUI’s.

I believe that I am a typical “power user” who enjoys setting up and
using the computer to do work for me.

After starting my Linux excursion with RedHat 7.2 I am almost a complete
convert on my desktop at home with RedHat 7.3

* My file sharing LAN is working with Samba
* I use Ximian Evolution for mail etc.,
* X-CD-Roast for CD burning, (although it does not recognise the
  DVD drive as a reader in any of the burning programmes – maybe
  my next call for help)
* Playing videos and music files seem no problem in RH7.3,
* OpenOffice.org1.0 seems as good as MS Office and files can be
  opened from or saved to MS Office format so no compatability
  problems
* Not using GnuCash yet as it does not have the outstanding
  bills feature or ability to export to Money or Quicken, even
  though it can import QIF files (This is probably all that is
  stopping me from a complete switch).
* Licq is running fine
*  

My main point is that although I am now convinced that Linux can be a
viable alternative as a desktop operating system (with good programmes),
and am telling my friends about it, the growth of user numbers will not
accelerate without concerted efforts to help “newbies” get over the
setup “hurdles”.

I sometimes wonder how the group regards my questions – are they too
trivial, is the group above me, do they mind etc. etc. I certainly
appreciate the help and advice, even if some of it is definitely “above
me”. If the gap is not bridged between the experts and people like me
the growth of Linux acceptance will not be maximised.
 

Thanks for all of the help and patience.

Robert





Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Adrian Stacey

Robert Fisher wrote:

snip

Well I've always believed there is no such thing as a stupid question, 
only stupid answers.  I know it's old and hairy but if you don't ask, 
you don't learn.

I am sure I speak for most here if I say that no one objects to 
answering even the most basic of queries.  I'll even go as far as to say 
that some of the answers to these early 'what the...' questions are even 
useful to the more experienced user.

Just my 3 cents...

Adrian




Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Vik Olliver

Adrian Stacey wrote:
 I am sure I speak for most here if I say that no one objects to
 answering even the most basic of queries.  I'll even go as far as to say
 that some of the answers to these early 'what the...' questions are even
 useful to the more experienced user.

Indeed. If I see something asked a lot, I think: That needs fixing. On
the odd occasion I've even submitted code patches to fix it!

Vik :v)
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Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Nick Rout

Pleased that the group was of service. I hope you'll attend some
meetings :-) Keep an eye on the list for notification.

-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]




stopping spam

2002-05-22 Thread Nick Rout

I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success
implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run
some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some
stage. 

Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting??
Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also
seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into
this - Guy  Matthew, any updates??
-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: stopping spam

2002-05-22 Thread Guy Steven

Unfortunately not,

Currently the only linux boxes I am running are at work, and while at work I
don't seem to be able to drag myself away from work work.

Guy.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2002 11:56 a.m.
 To: CLUG
 Subject: stopping spam


 I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success
 implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my
 mailserver. I'll run
 some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some
 stage.

 Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting??
 Next step is virus detection, which is probably more
 important, but also
 seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were
 looking into
 this - Guy  Matthew, any updates??
 --
 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Adrian Stacey

Julian Carver wrote:


 Personally I really like new users with new (and old) questions.  There 
 are so many reasons:

Well, I normally hate, 'me too' posts but this one deserves it :)

Adrian




Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Adrian Stacey

Given the speed of your reply, Nick, I wonder if steering my daughter 
toward studying for a law degree was a good idea...

H...  maybe it was vbg

Adrian

Nick Rout wrote:

Well, I normally hate, 'me too' posts but this one deserves it :)

Adrian

 me too
 (hell Adrian, you asked for that LOL)
 





Re: stopping spam

2002-05-22 Thread C Falconer

I've heard of it, but never used it.

Can you give the list the skinny on how it interacts with the flow of
mail?

Does spamassassin sit before or after your MTA?  or does it bolt on
similar to a squid redirector?  I'm specifically asking about SMTP
received mail rather than pop/imap/fetchmail.

On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 12:09, Drew Whittle wrote:
 I've been running it for a while, only had 1 or 2 false positives, a
 number of spam's that have escaped detection (but not that many).
 
 Last month spamassassin + razor trapped over 2,000 spams for me. 
 
 It is definately worth spending the time setting up.
 
 :D
 
 On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 11:56, Nick Rout wrote:
  I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success
  implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run
  some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some
  stage. 
  
  Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting??
  Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also
  seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into
  this - Guy  Matthew, any updates??
  -- 
  Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 





Good mailing list software?

2002-05-22 Thread Mahesh De Silva

Hi All..

I am after a good mailing list software to run under
linux?. A cgi based one would be great.

Any suggestion? The list has around 400 members and
its does not need anything flash like html etc..

Regards
Mahesh

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- Save your important files online for easy access!



Re: stopping spam

2002-05-22 Thread Drew Whittle

I've been running it for a while, only had 1 or 2 false positives, a
number of spam's that have escaped detection (but not that many).

Last month spamassassin + razor trapped over 2,000 spams for me. 

It is definately worth spending the time setting up.

:D

On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 11:56, Nick Rout wrote:
 I just wanted to report that I am having a lot of fun and success
 implementing vipul's razor and spam assassin on my mailserver. I'll run
 some more tests tonight and have a full report for the list at some
 stage. 
 
 Would anyone be interested in a talk on this at a meeting??
 Next step is virus detection, which is probably more important, but also
 seems to be more difficult. I know a couple of people were looking into
 this - Guy  Matthew, any updates??
 -- 
 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 






Re: stopping spam

2002-05-22 Thread Nick Rout

 Can you give the list the skinny on how it interacts with the flow of
 mail?
 
 Does spamassassin sit before or after your MTA?  or does it bolt on
 similar to a squid redirector?  I'm specifically asking about SMTP
 received mail rather than pop/imap/fetchmail.

Both razor and spamassassin come after your smtp server (not forgetting
of course that this will also catch your fetchmail retireved pop mail
that is fed into your smtp server - at least my fetchmail does anyway.

On my system both will be inoked from procmail which I have set as my
local delivery agent (ie postfix smtp server feeds to procmail which
delivers the mail, testing it on the way through). I have a
procmail.global file and a procmail.username file for each user.

procmail.global tests thru razor at present and if it finds a message is
spam dumps it in my SPAM mailbox. If it passes then it goes on to
procmail.nick and gets sorted into various bxes, one for each mailing
list.

When I get spamassassin working it will also be called from procmail.

Hope that answers the question :-)
-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Ben Aitchison

On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:36:00AM +1200, Zane Gilmore wrote:
 Most of us programmers/geeks love to expound our knowledge ;-)
 and we definitely need people who are not afraid of
 asking questions.
 
 Because there are often so many ways of solving a problem, all of
 us often will read answers from others and learn something new, 
 no matter the level of expertise.

The problem that tends to come up though, is that all the easy answers get
answered and the complicated problems get ignored.  This is a trend in 
mailing lists in general.  I wish I knew an easy answer :)

For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, without
doing mass whois querys.

Like for instance:
% whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800

Will tell me that that AS number is in China.  I'd like to be able to (say)
block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance.

I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out
what IP subnets belong to which AS number.

Now this is a challenge to see if anyone has any ideas :P

Ben.



Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Adrian Stacey

Ben Aitchison wrote:

 
 For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, without
 doing mass whois querys.
 
 Like for instance:
   % whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800
 
 Will tell me that that AS number is in China.  I'd like to be able to (say)
 block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance.
 
 I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out
 what IP subnets belong to which AS number.

Heheh, that reminds me of when I wanted to find a way to determine which 
IP's were local (NZ) and which were international.  After Waikato 
stopped issuing the router dumps, I gave up... :(

Adrian




Re: stopping spam

2002-05-22 Thread C Falconer

*brain-throb*

Okay - My system here is the firewall portforwards connections on port
25 to a linux box running exim.  The linux box then sends the mail to
the exchange server via smtp.  Outbound mail goes back the same way.

Since theres no local delivery - can I use spamassassin ?

(the reason for the torturous path is to shield the exchange server
against the nasty world, and to use some of the anti-spam features of
exim as opposed to ms exchange's attitude of don't hurt me please)


On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 15:14, Nick Rout wrote:
  Can you give the list the skinny on how it interacts with the flow of
  mail?
  
  Does spamassassin sit before or after your MTA?  or does it bolt on
  similar to a squid redirector?  I'm specifically asking about SMTP
  received mail rather than pop/imap/fetchmail.
 
 Both razor and spamassassin come after your smtp server (not forgetting
 of course that this will also catch your fetchmail retireved pop mail
 that is fed into your smtp server - at least my fetchmail does anyway.
 
 On my system both will be inoked from procmail which I have set as my
 local delivery agent (ie postfix smtp server feeds to procmail which
 delivers the mail, testing it on the way through). I have a
 procmail.global file and a procmail.username file for each user.
 
 procmail.global tests thru razor at present and if it finds a message is
 spam dumps it in my SPAM mailbox. If it passes then it goes on to
 procmail.nick and gets sorted into various bxes, one for each mailing
 list.
 
 When I get spamassassin working it will also be called from procmail.
 





Re: Almost converted...

2002-05-22 Thread Christopher Sawtell

Adrian Stacey wrote:
 Ben Aitchison wrote:
 

 For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, 
 without
 doing mass whois querys.

 Like for instance:
 % whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800

 Will tell me that that AS number is in China.  I'd like to be able to 
 (say)
 block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance.

 I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out
 what IP subnets belong to which AS number.
 
 
 Heheh, that reminds me of when I wanted to find a way to determine which 
 IP's were local (NZ) and which were international.  After Waikato 
 stopped issuing the router dumps, I gave up... :(

Here is a possible way.

West coast of America
[chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping www.ucla.edu
PING www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130): icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 
time=167.371 msec
64 bytes from www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 
time=165.150 msec
64 bytes from www.ucla.edu (169.232.33.130): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 
time=164.786 msec

--- www.ucla.edu ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 164.786/165.769/167.371/1.142 ms

Ping time over 150mS.

East coast Australia
[chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping www.unsw.edu.au
PING cruise.comms.unsw.edu.au (149.171.96.60) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) 
bytes of data.
64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=0 
ttl=242 time=56.191 msec
64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=1 
ttl=242 time=109.962 msec
64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=2 
ttl=242 time=77.938 msec
64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=3 
ttl=242 time=92.440 msec
64 bytes from cruise.comms.unsw.EDU.AU (149.171.96.60): icmp_seq=4 
ttl=242 time=82.979 msec

--- cruise.comms.unsw.edu.au ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 56.191/83.902/109.962/17.642 ms

Otago
[chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping ftp.otago.ac.nz
PING celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) bytes 
of data.
64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 
time=49.633 msec
64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 
time=47.135 msec
64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 
time=45.394 msec
64 bytes from celeborn.otago.ac.nz (139.80.64.4): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 
time=46.660 msec

--- celeborn.otago.ac.nz ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 45.394/47.205/49.633/1.554 ms

Auckland
[chris@berty wn-2.4.3]$ ping ftp.auckland.ac.nz
PING www2.auckland.ac.nz (130.216.191.125) from 192.168.2.10 : 56(84) 
bytes of data.
64 bytes from www2.auckland.ac.nz (130.216.191.125): icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 
time=57.300 msec
64 bytes from www2.auckland.ac.nz (130.216.191.125): icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 
time=30.635 msec

--- www2.auckland.ac.nz ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 30.635/43.967/57.300/13.334 ms

So:  ~60mS in NZ;  ~70mS overseas

I know this is not perfect because there will be some NZ places on 
slower ping times, but for those ones, one could trace the route and see 
if it goes through one of the relatively few egress from NZ points.

--
C.