Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Expanding on my message. My point is that there are two definitions of Kilobytes. In one a Kilobyte=1000bytes, in the other a Kilobyte=1054bytes and this dichotomy is used to cheat people. REPLY Sorry to disagree but since the late sixties when I first learned computer terminology it was understood that one kilobyte of memory was in fact 1024 bytes. It was the closest thing to 1000 consistent with a number divisible I took that as a typo. Norm knows better. Jim. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Well, it won't be the first time I have disagreed with authority. I still maintain that kilo and mega should be abbreviated K and M and will do so until they pry my keyboard from my dead, cold, fingers. And as for using kibibit to represent 1024 bits, I have never seen it used I suppose because folks who are concerned about such things simply assume that a kilobit is 1024 bits. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W These 2 pages from National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST - used to be called the National Bureau of Standards before I retired) will explain how scientists are using the International System of Units (SI). ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Yes, using Kbytes=1000 bytes is called Puffery, used by sellers to make their stuff look more valuable than it is. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W [Original Message] From: Eric T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Date: 11/23/2008 1:44:44 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Norm, When you look at the capacity of a disk drive, or the amount of memory installed in a computer, you are always seeing that Kbytes = 1024 bytes thing. Of course the computer industry assumes that everyone knows all this so it is only explained a very few times. I have seen the standard (Kbyte = 1000 bytes) usage , when used in relation to computers, explained (in small print) more often. Eric Thompson ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Norm you need to upgrade lol we are in Gbytes now. and that's not Greek-bytes is Giga which in Greek means giant Yanni Marinated S/V Princess Thalia Columbia 8.7 #73 Sylvan Beach, Oneida Lake NY - Original Message - From: Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Yes, using Kbytes=1000 bytes is called Puffery, used by sellers to make their stuff look more valuable than it is. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W [Original Message] From: Eric T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Date: 11/23/2008 1:44:44 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Norm, When you look at the capacity of a disk drive, or the amount of memory installed in a computer, you are always seeing that Kbytes = 1024 bytes thing. Of course the computer industry assumes that everyone knows all this so it is only explained a very few times. I have seen the standard (Kbyte = 1000 bytes) usage , when used in relation to computers, explained (in small print) more often. Eric Thompson ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: 22/11/2008 6:59 PM ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Yes, using Kbytes=1000 bytes is called Puffery, used by sellers to make their stuff look more valuable than it is. Norm REPLY Not so! It is based on the fact early computers used octal numbering instead of the decimal number system. This was simply a mathematical convenience to start with. Cobol and fortran used 8 bit words for coding. In fact so did Holorith punch cards. 8 columns of holes still fit a conventional office card that was used in those days. 8 x 8 = 64, 1024 /8 = 128 and any of the other numbers are also divisible by 8. 8 bits = one byte. Newer computers went to 16 bit words then 64 bit words. Encryptions are often 128 bit etc. Half a Gig of RAM is actually 512 bytes, divisible by 8 as well. Just think if we had started with a hexidecimal numbering system. BUT God gave us five fingers on each hand, so we naturally learned to count to base ten and thus was born the decimal system. VBG ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Yanni Marinated S/V Princess Thalia Columbia 8.7 #73 Sylvan Beach, Oneida Lake NY - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Yes, using Kbytes=1000 bytes is called Puffery, used by sellers to make their stuff look more valuable than it is. Norm REPLY Not so! It is based on the fact early computers used octal numbering instead of the decimal number system. This was simply a mathematical convenience to start with. Cobol and fortran used 8 bit words for coding. In fact so did Holorith punch cards. 8 columns of holes still fit a conventional office card that was used in those days. 8 x 8 = 64, 1024 /8 = 128 and any of the other numbers are also divisible by 8. 8 bits = one byte. Newer computers went to 16 bit words then 64 bit words. Encryptions are often 128 bit etc. Half a Gig of RAM is actually 512 bytes, divisible by 8 as well. Just think if we had started with a hexidecimal numbering system. BUT God gave us five fingers on each hand, so we naturally learned to count to base ten and thus was born the decimal system. VBG ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: 22/11/2008 6:59 PM ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
I don't think you understood what norm said.I am sure he will debate. On your last comment, you think Saxons had six fingers? 12 in both hands? or whoever came up with the divisions of an inch? or the whole imperial system of measurements? Yanni Marinated Ah Yanni, you gotten da languages mixed uppen Ja? Da Saxons wuz from den olden country across da channel. Dey was also da Normans and den dere was da Anglo Saxons. Ne? Saxons have sex but they don't play de saxaphone. Dat's for Jazz muzika. I never said Norm came from da Normans. VBG It is da goot ting dat olden tyme carpenters wasn't mathematicians or we might have ended up wid da base 4 or worse base 3 for counting. Dem carpenters offen cut off da fingers. Ne? ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Arild, Love your messages, your experience is so deep, and your expression delightful. Actually, I might have Norman blood as my mother's side of the family came from England. As for carpenters cutting off fingers, I saw a mesmerizing spot on the TV show Time Warp demonstrating a table saw that cannot cut your finger. If your finger touches the blade an electronic sensor jambs an aluminum wedge into the blade and stops it instantly (the blade and the wedge must then be replaced). It was demonstrated for the high-speed camera with a hot dog, then the inventor's finger. There was no visible damage to either. I don't astonish easily but that did it! Another great clip was on a MythBusters clone that made a trap using sand and compressed air delivered under the sand through pvc pipes to make a sort of quicksand vehicle trap. They set up a prop bank building that required the robbers to drive over the sand patch to escape. Normally vehicles could drive over the sand patch easily, but when the escape vehicle was on the sand the air was turned on and the vehicle (a van) instantly sank down to its floor pan. I am surprised the security industry has not picked up on that. I would really like some of whatever Yanni is marinated in... Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Date: 11/23/2008 5:25:17 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli I don't think you understood what norm said.I am sure he will debate. On your last comment, you think Saxons had six fingers? 12 in both hands? or whoever came up with the divisions of an inch? or the whole imperial system of measurements? Yanni Marinated Ah Yanni, you gotten da languages mixed uppen Ja? Da Saxons wuz from den olden country across da channel. Dey was also da Normans and den dere was da Anglo Saxons. Ne? Saxons have sex but they don't play de saxaphone. Dat's for Jazz muzika. I never said Norm came from da Normans. VBG It is da goot ting dat olden tyme carpenters wasn't mathematicians or we might have ended up wid da base 4 or worse base 3 for counting. Dem carpenters offen cut off da fingers. Ne? ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Norm is correct. I am in the business and we have to deal with this when it comes to RAM sizes and Hard Drive specs on a daily basis. We always convert back to actual bytes to make the comparisons even across all media. And in reference to the fact we are now up to Gbytes, it makes matters worse because it is now off by 1024x1024x1024 or 1,073,741,824 so a vendor that claims to support 500GB may only have 466GB actual capacity. Or looking at it the other way, to really have 500GB capacity, there should actually be 536,870,912,000 bytes capacity. We call them marketing megabytes and marketing gigabytes Sam Norm of Bandersnatch wrote: Expanding on my message. I understand decimal, hex and binary, that computers today use hex because four bits (a nibble or half a byte) has sixteen possible conditions 0-F, and that a byte has eight bits (two nibbles), a two digit hex number (00 thru FF).Words can be several multiples of a byte. My point is that there are two definitions of Kilobytes. In one a Kilobyte=1000bytes, in the other a Kilobyte=1054bytes and this dichotomy is used to cheat people. If one describes a hard drive using the KB as equaling 1000bytes one can come up with a slightly higher capacity number than if one used the KB as equaling 1054bytes definition, thereby representing the hard drive one is touting has a larger capacity than the competitions' product when in fact it is the same. This is Puffery: not quite illegal BS. End of Soap Box... Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Date: 11/23/2008 4:32:29 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Yes, using Kbytes=1000 bytes is called Puffery, used by sellers to make their stuff look more valuable than it is. Norm REPLY Not so! It is based on the fact early computers used octal numbering instead of the decimal number system. This was simply a mathematical convenience to start with. Cobol and fortran used 8 bit words for coding. In fact so did Holorith punch cards. 8 columns of holes still fit a conventional office card that was used in those days. 8 x 8 = 64, 1024 /8 = 128 and any of the other numbers are also divisible by 8. 8 bits = one byte. Newer computers went to 16 bit words then 64 bit words. Encryptions are often 128 bit etc. Half a Gig of RAM is actually 512 bytes, divisible by 8 as well. Just think if we had started with a hexidecimal numbering system. BUT God gave us five fingers on each hand, so we naturally learned to count to base ten and thus was born the decimal system. VBG ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- Sam Densler mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.islandfx.com/lady S/V Lady of the Lake PDQ 36, Hull #15 Melbourne, FL S/V Stories She Could Tell Endeavour 37, Hull #454 Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004 Reborn and sailing again in 2007 If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, you do it for the stories you can tell. Jimmy Buffett Stories We Could Tell A1A ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Arild, Love your messages, your experience is so deep, and your expression delightful. I would really like some of whatever Yanni is marinated in... Norm REPLY I thought it was Rezina, but maybe its Ouzo. VBG ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Norm is correct. I am in the business and we have to deal with this when it comes to RAM sizes and Hard Drive specs on a daily basis. Sam REPLY Oh no!! the marketing morons have invaded true geek speak and corrupted our language,. frown Is nothing sacred? Somebody should keel haul those cretins on an well barnacled hull. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
I also noticed on my Mom's meds the symbol for microgram is MCG. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W - Original Message - From: Jim To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Sent: 11/18/2008 8:15:58 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Battery Discharge Depth Norm of Bandersnatch wrote: I recall a long time ago I was taught that units above one were to be upper case (Meg, Kilo) and less than one were to be lower case (milli, micro), a standard that appears to be followed in many cases. We wouldn't use mHz for mega Hertz, so it should be KWh. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W µ (lower case greek mu) is the symbol for micro in electronics. Lower case m for milli. Just FYI. Jim.___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
Norm
I think this could be for liability issues so it stands out against the other
words. Being more noticeable
Yanni Marinated
S/V Princess Thalia
Columbia 8.7 #73
On the Hard
Mayo MD
--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 1:24 PM
I also noticed on my Mom's meds the symbol for microgram is MCG.
Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N 081 38.484W
- Original Message -
From: Jim
To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org
Sent: 11/18/2008 8:15:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Battery Discharge Depth
Norm of Bandersnatch wrote:
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I recall a long time ago I was taught that units above one were to be upper
case (Meg, Kilo) and less than one were to be lower case (milli, micro), a
standard that appears to be followed in many cases.
We wouldn't use mHz for mega Hertz, so it should be KWh.
Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N 081 38.484W
µ (lower case greek mu) is the symbol for micro in electronics. Lower case m
for milli.
Just FYI.
Jim.
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Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
I think it is done this way because it can be easily written on a keyboard or typewriter. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W - Original Message - From: Yanni Nikopoulos To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Sent: 11/22/2008 8:50:26 AM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Norm I think this could be for liability issues so it stands out against the other words. Being more noticeable Yanni Marinated S/V Princess Thalia Columbia 8.7 #73 On the Hard Mayo MD --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 1:24 PM I also noticed on my Mom's meds the symbol for microgram is MCG. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W - Original Message - From: Jim To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Sent: 11/18/2008 8:15:58 PM Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Battery Discharge Depth Norm of Bandersnatch wrote: I recall a long time ago I was taught that units above one were to be upper case (Meg, Kilo) and less than one were to be lower case (milli, micro), a standard that appears to be followed in many cases. We wouldn't use mHz for mega Hertz, so it should be KWh. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W µ (lower case greek mu) is the symbol for micro in electronics. Lower case m for milli. Just FYI. Jim. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
no idea why it was done that way...but it was _before_ typewriters and keyboards... On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is done this way because it can be easily written on a keyboard or typewriter. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W - Original Message - *From:* Yanni Nikopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 11/22/2008 8:50:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli Norm I think this could be for liability issues so it stands out against the other words. Being more noticeable Yanni Marinated S/V Princess Thalia Columbia 8.7 #73 On the Hard Mayo MD --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote: From: Norm of Bandersnatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli To: liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 1:24 PM I also noticed on my Mom's meds the symbol for microgram is MCG. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W - Original Message - *From:* Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 11/18/2008 8:15:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] Battery Discharge Depth Norm of Bandersnatch wrote: I recall a long time ago I was taught that units above one were to be upper case (Meg, Kilo) and less than one were to be lower case (milli, micro), a standard that appears to be followed in many cases. We wouldn't use mHz for mega Hertz, so it should be KWh. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W * http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BC**µ (lower case greek mu) is the symbol for micro in electronics. Lower case m for milli. Just FYI. Jim. * ___ Liveaboard mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To adjust your membership settings over the webhttp://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Mailman Users Guide can be found herehttp://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- It's not about the boat it's sails or rigging. It's about the freedom. http://www.slideshare.net/jacko91/these-are-my-credentials/ http://fisherhouse.org/ http://www.specialops.org/ We are the guardians of a great faith. When we believe that freedom offers the best chance of peace and prosperity for all, and our desire for peace cannot be seperated from our believe in liberty. Harry S. Truman Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] K and milli
These 2 pages from National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST - used to be called the National Bureau of Standards before I retired) will explain how scientists are using the International System of Units (SI). These definitions are the ones t:hat are required in order to meet the rules and style conventions for papers that are to be published in major scientific journals. What is printed elsewhere, of course, may or may not conform to the SI standardsUsually the intent is clear, however, so it works. And speaking of capitalization, if many emails that I see are the sign of the future, a good deal of what used to be correct spelling and and punctuation may be on the way oute.g., skipping the capital letters entirely. Maybe e.e. cummings started it all. The first page, below, shows the SI base quantities with their names and symbols, where some symbols are in small letters and others are in caps.: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html This next page shows the SI prefixes for various factors - i.e., using +/- powers of 10. Factors using negative powers of 10 all use small letter symbols, while *most* of the positive powers of 10 use capital letter symbols...except for kilo, hecto and deka : http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
